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Chzz, I don't understand what to do at Template:Mfd/doc&action=edit . "...follow the redlink and add {{subst:mfd2}} to create a 'Miscellany for deletion sub-page'." is what's wrong but I don't know how to fix it.

think it should say something like "... follow this redlink: redlink and there add {{tlx|mfd2|subst=yes}}  to create a 'Miscellany for deletion sub-page.' - but I looked at mfd2 and could not see where to change this. kcylsnavS{screechharrass} 04:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

It's on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mfd in the red box below the separator line, where it starts off with "Maintenance use only." It says, "Then subst {{subst:mfd2|pg=Template:Mfd|text=...}} to create the discussion subpage," subst it WHERE? kcylsnavS{^screech_harrass} 04:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

The instructions say;

1. Add {{mfd}} to the page you are nominating. 2.After saving the page, follow the redlink and add {{subst:mfd2}} to create a 'Miscellany for deletion sub-page'.

What that means is, that if you edit a page and place {{mfd}} at the top, it will have a message box which says,

Note to onlookers: The above is a sample, this page is not listed in MFD (I hope!)

Clicking on the red link "{{red link|this page's entry}}" will edit the listing page - and that is where you need to subst the mfd2 template, to create the listing. Then,

3. Finally, go to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion and subst {{subst:mfd3}}.

This adds the listing to the currently listed MFD's.

I hope this clarifies; as it says, "See MFD How-to for full instructions". Best,  Chzz  ►  13:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

It does, but now I sure would like to see three changes:

1. On the instructions, change "follow the redlink" to "follow the redlink under 'this page's entry' which will appear on the subst'd template"
2. On the subst'd template itself, change "subst {{subst:mfd2|pg=User talk:Chzz|text=...}} to create the discussion subpage" to "subst {{subst:mfd2|pg=User talk:Chzz|text=...}} on _______?_______ to create the discussion subpage"
3. Increase the size of the font below the separator bar.

Chzz, I am literal, perhaps overly so, when I try to follow technical instrutions. When I was 17 and attempting to learn QBASIC on our TRS80 I did everything could to follow the instructions exactly, and when the instructions gave an example of function(string) I dutifully entered function(foo birds fly fast)... and it never worked. I tore the book apart and finally gave up in frustration. Nowhere did the book give an example or any clue at all to indicate the requirement of quotation marks to deliminate the string! So when the instructions say "follow the redlink," I ask, "What redlink?" and when the instructions say "Then subst X," I ask subst X where?

I can change the documentation page, will do so shortly, but I can't change the template code. I hope the above makes sense. kcylsnavS{^screech_harrass} 14:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I understand perfectly. Interesting to note that strings are often called String literals :-)

I'm glad you are boldly fixing it - great. Re. the template itself - please just put a section on Template talk:Mfd with {{editprotected}} at the top, and it will be processed by a SysOp.

Hope to maybe see you on IRC again. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  14:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Helpmebot

Chzz, if any Spanish language assistance is desired for Helpmebot, Platonides will be able to help out. Best way to get him is on MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org>. He's also a wiz at CSS, JS, LocalSettings.php, and other MediaWiki issues. kcylsnavS{^screech_harrass} 11:33, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. Coincidentally, Platonides helped me with a mediawiki tech question just a few hours ago!  Chzz  ►  13:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Earlier help on IRC

Hello Chzz! I do not know if you remember but for some days ago you helped me on IRC with a problem with the Nobel Prize article (the discussion is located on Wikipedia:Peer review/Nobel Prize/archive2. The problem was (and is) a paragraph which one editor protects but me and two others do not consider good or notable enough for a hopefully-soon-to-be-FA. I listed it at WP:RFC to help getting consensus but no help have come. Meanwhile I feel the discussion has gotten more and more out of hand, the protective editor more and more aggressive. I am not really sure what to do any more, but you said I could contact you if I needed more help. Can you help me? Cheers, Esuzu (talk • contribs) 15:03, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I promise to tell you if the situation changes. Esuzu (talk • contribs) 18:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Note: This now awaits response from me (or TPS).  Chzz  ►  18:48, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

DO NOT PRESS

Why do you put that? It violates WP:BEANS. Thank you. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 19:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Before Chzz added the "DO NOT PRESS" part, people were pressing it all the time. We're all safer now, I feel. TFOWR^{idle vapourings of a mind diseased} 20:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Hehe.

Just to be clear: Chemicalinterest, no, it does not violate WP:BEANS. It does no harm whatsoever. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

CSD

Understood. I had no way of knowing at the time that the article had gone through the deletion process before, as it had no talk page. ~BLM (talk) 00:02, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem, but in future please note, it is necessary to have a quick check of the article history before CSD'ing it. Keep up the good work, cheers,  Chzz  ►  00:08, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

An Award!

You've been given the Wiki Puzzle Piece Award - Puzzle Piece #011!

From QwerpQwertus· _Talk_

Click To Award One

Thank you

Thanks for the message about the feedback page. I tried to "pop in and say hello" on the chat thing you described, but I have no understanding of how it works so I gave up. It said to enter desired username. Was I supposed to enter yours? Mine? I think it needs more up front explanation to be useful. Anyway, thank you!CHrabbit (talk) 22:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk.  Chzz  ►  16:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Morning!

I added another bullet point to {{MovedtoMainspace}} about "adding links to your new article" and linked WP:Orphan. Just getting a third opinion that it's okay ^_^ Regards, Captain n00dle\^Talk 09:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea; I tweaked it a bit, as I prefer links within the actual text to e.g. see here. Change back if you disagree, not that fussed on it.  Chzz  ►  07:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Feedback needed on feedback idea

To GB fan,Fetchcomms, Chzz and Captain-n00dle

I'd like some feedback on a thought I have to address most of the remaining items in Category:Requests to move a userspace draft. I could be bold and just do it, but I'd like some reaction from some of the more experienced contributors to Requests for feedback.

As background, I stumbled across the Category about three weeks ago. It contained 242 requests, some going back to November. (This discovery is what prompted me to work on a proposal for a Feedback Patrol.) I've been working on cleaning out the backlog, and have it under 75 at the moment. The good news is that over 170 have been addressed, either by moving when appropriate, or a message to the editor when substantial work is needed prior to a move. The bad news is that I worked on the list with a triage mentality, moving the ones that were in good shape, sending a notice to the ones that were in very bad shape, and passing on ones where I wasn't quite sure how to respond, so the ones left are a little trickier than the ones I've processed.

In many cases, the ones left have some promise, but need some attention regarding notability and other issues. However, in many cases, the request is quite dated. If the editors last edit is a few months old, I don't see it as a good use of resources to spend time assessing notability if the editor is no longer interested in contributing. (Obviously, if you read the draft and want to work on it personally, you can and should, but in many cases, if the original editor isn't going to help, there's not much point in working on it.)

My suggestion is to pick a cutoff date, say one month, and if there have been no edits within the last month, send a note to the editor and ask if they are still interested. (Anything more recent should be addressed on an individual basis.)

Sample message:

You asked that userspace draft be moved into article space. We apologize for the extreme delay in responding to this request. We believe there are some issues that need to be addressed before moving this draft, however, we would like to make sure you are still interested in working on this before we review it in detail. In the mean time, we will remove the {{move draft}} request. Please respond if you want the review completed, either by replacing the {{move draft}} template, by posting a note at my talk page, or by posting a request at Requests for feedback.

--SPhilbrickT 11:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I posted a note to Cenarium (creator of move draft)

here

Ongoing, moved to AFC, etc.  Chzz  ►  07:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

For Chzzbot

Hi Chzz, here's the link to the notification page for Chzzbot. TQ! BejinhanTalk 03:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! Can you please just clarify and confirm - I think from the above, you would like me to send that message out to the list of people given - in fact, I'm pretty sure, but I like to be totally clear - so if that is your request, please just confirm below. Quite happy to send them out for you - I just wanted to double-check that was your intent. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  13:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have been clearer. Yes, that was meant for Chzzbot to deliver. I'll be having notifications to be delivered every now and then, is it ok if I just post the link here whenever I need them delivered?... or how should I go about it? BejinhanTalk 03:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine - I just wanted to make sure I understood. And yes, ask any time.

I will try to send them within the next few hours.  Chzz  ►  04:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

All sent; no problems  Chzz  ►  06:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done

Thanks BejinhanTalk 09:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Australian Institute of Family Studies

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Nice one. Trafford09 (talk) 15:35, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Because we are talking about you

it is only fair to tell you where: Feedback Patrol proposal --SPhilbrickT 22:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks; I will indeed reply more when I have the chance.  Chzz  ►  23:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I haven't said anything bad! :) Chevymontecarlo  Chzz  ►  17:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Updated

I've updated Feedback Patrol proposal in response to your feedback. I have more to say, but probably won't get to it until the weekend. I'm not pushing for a response at this time, just wanted you to know your comments were appreciated, and they are helping me consolidate my thinking.--SPhilbrickT 14:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

BUMP  Chzz  ►  22:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Moving to AfC

I remember agreeing to the wording in User:Chzz/test, but if I signed up for carrying out such notices, I missed it. Great job on cleaning up what was a mess, but I do think that if an article is moved to AfC, the original editor should get a notice. I think that is best done by whomever does the moving. (I'll copy Earwig.) I haven't checked all the example, but I did check one example, and I don't see that User:Acklis was notified.--SPhilbrickT 16:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Entirely my fault; I said that I would notify them. Initially, the bot was not logging the moves...and, I will. I got side-tracked with many things - partly, making sure that the AFCs were being processed well. Phil, many were not; if you could check some, that would be great. It's been good to get assistance in AFC, but some users not so used to the process are a bit keen to decline before trying hard to fix; I've recovered a few, sometimes several times - e.g. [1].

I will, right now, make sure all the users with 'moved AFCs' have appropriate notifications; the template might or might not be appropriate, as many have already been either created or rejected.  Doing...  Chzz  ►  16:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I will try to check some, but I'm struggling with a May date for a deliverable. Later.--SPhilbrickT 16:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Just spamming out that template to inform them is not going to work; we're gonna need to check every one.

I just copied over Earwig's listing, to User:Chzz/draftmovethingy - planning to look through them, and put the note on their talk, as planned; however, even the first one needs investigation; from a quick look at User:Jkjacobs/Desmond_MacNamara it appears to me that it does show a claim-to-fame, and actually needs work to fix up.

It was declined by Smoozle, two mins after marking it as being reviewed - saying that it "doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance" etc, and asking the user to improve the referencing. However, the user has not contributed since Jan.

I'm worried; I know we have to be careful with BLPs etc, but... we're going to just lose an awful lot of well-intentioned submissions this way. I suspect that there are many more such examples.

I can, and of course will, attempt to rectify them. It might take some time, of course. I don't know if it is best to inform all users with a template (as originally planned), because if said user talks already have e.g. a rejection or hold message orwhatever, it isn't appropriate. It needs individual attention.

To be honest, this is probably an even bigger problem; I'm sure that lots of AFCs have been rejected, which otherwise could have been fixed up. Mind you, lots of CSDs aren't appropriate either.

I do my best to fix things, but...there is only one of me. (Contrary to some rumours).

Earwig, is that a comprehensive list of all moved pages, or are there others not logged?  Chzz  ►  17:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

As I typed that, someone declined Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/infosearchbpo as ad, which it isn't - it lacks sources; also, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Marriage Events in Arya Vysyas was declined with the reasoning that "It already exists, as Marriage" - also, not a valid reasoning. I can't keep up. \o/  Chzz  ►  17:24, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

+Kevin Pearce, UK writer, The Gangster of Love  Chzz  ►  05:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Runglish

Please read what existed before Runglish (disambiguation). http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Runglish&action=historysubmit&diff=366303330&oldid=366280158 Three articles in one. That must be disambiguated. HaŋaRoa (talk) 03:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I understand, but, in doing so you are creating an article which has only one referenced bit of info - and that info is already covered in the article. The other two parts lack references, so do not belong on Wikipedia.

In making the redirect, the burden of evidence lies with you; if you are not able to appropriately source the facts to create a valid article, then it should be a redirect.

I will remove the PROD tag for now, and check back on it later. Personally, I think it should just be a redirect - simply, per WP:V.  Chzz  ►  03:39, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Runglish&action=historysubmit&diff=366303330&oldid=366280158 I think you didn't read it, because you mention I created unreferenced information; I just moved it. On the other hand, Runglish (disambiguation) redirects to two different articles. That cannot be implemented with #REDIRECT. HaŋaRoa (talk) 03:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I did, indeed, note where you copied the text from. The problem is, The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material.^WP:BURDEN - it does not matter if it came from another article; you created the page.

Currently, it consists of a redirect to Runglish (which is fine), but also some unreferenced information and a link to Volapuk encoding, and that article makes no mention of the term. Per WP:DABSTYLE, each section should link to an article.

Nevertheless, as I said, I have removed the tag for now.  Chzz  ►  04:11, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

06adesinad

{hello i did an article on kingory and i was wondering if you helped me with the atricle and modified it or it was not good enough and it was deleted}

thanks 06adesinad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 06adesinad (talk • contribs) 15:17, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! The article Kingory might be deleted - please see WP:VRS.

It must be notable.

You must add references to independent reliable sources - e.g. newspaper articles.

Best of luck,  Chzz  ►  16:50, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

被质疑或可能被质疑的材料，以及所有的引言，都应带有可靠、公开的来源。维基百科內容的门槛，是可供查证（verifiability），而非真实正確——亦即是：加入维基百科的内容须要发表在可靠来源中能被读者查知，而不能仅由我们认定它真实正确。

Troutman update

Hi Chzz,

Since no one else seems to be happening, would you please take action on my suggestion?

Thank you, --Burkeguy (talk) 17:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I certainly will, as soon as time permits. We have so many backlogs; I wonder, perhaps you could help out a little? Thus far, you have only edited that single article. Could you, perhaps, take a look at e.g. Category:Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard from May 2010 where we have many other articles needing attention? After all of the help with Kathryn Troutman, I am confident that you would be able to improve some other articles - and that is the way Wikipedia works; we all help each other. So if you could help out, it would be greatly appreciated. This would also prevent problems with claims that you have a Single-purpose account. Thank you in anticipation,  Chzz  ►  17:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, I will certainly help, although my job doesn't leave me with much time. Let's go for a win-win solution. Burkeguy (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

AfC

Hi, been busy, had operation

anyway, what needs doing at Afc? Sophie ^(Talk) 00:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Hope you are OK.

Don't worry about the AFC stuff; there was a bit of a rush on it, but, it's mostly been dealt with - as well as ever, anyway. See you soon,  Chzz  ►  00:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Yea, im alright, was in a car accident (long story) a while ago, leg got broke, put things in it and now they have taken them out. Sophie ^(Talk) 10:28, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Live help channel

Thanks for posting a link to the live help channel on my user page (and thanks for fixing my category error, of course).

• Is there an idiot's guide to helping via live help, similar to Wikipedia:Help desk/How to answer?
• Do I tick the "auth to services" checkbox on the "connect" page?
• If I monitor the channel just to see what sort of things happen there, will everyone else know that "John of Reading" is online and listening?

Before starting to contribute at the help desk I just watched it for a while, and I'd prefer to do the same with the help channel. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk page, User_talk:John_of_Reading#Live_help_request  Chzz  ►  11:12, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at Esuzu's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

New message on my talkpage. Esuzu (talk • contribs) 17:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

User_talk:Esuzu#Re._your_message - done, I think.  Chzz  ►  17:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you!

Chzz - Thank for your participation and support in my RfA.

I can honestly say that your comments and your trust in me are greatly appreciated.

Please let me know if you ever have any suggestions for me as an editor, or comments based on my admin actions.

Thank you!  7  22:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Bah - I only !voted 'coz I thought it was this 7 :p

Srsly, congrats. I'm sorry I didn't write much on the RfA, but it would only have been repetitious, and was obvious you'd pass. Well-deserved.  Chzz  ►  23:12, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Interesting

I don't know if you've come across anything like this on a WMF wiki site, but I found n:MediaWiki:Irc.js interesting. Wm2010:MediaWiki:Irc.js seems to be a less complex version. :-) Killiondude (talk) 02:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Ta. Messy for now, but, one day it'll become standard, I'm sure.  Chzz  ►  04:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Questions

Oh ever-helpful WP-guru, how can I force {{User wikiprayer}} to be on the right of a page?

In the absence of know-how, I'm left with this.

Also, why doesn't this work: [[User:Trafford09&diff=366169460&oldid=366116811]]  ?

Can't diffs be put in [[ ]] ?

Also, is there html for <tab>, like <nbsp>, or can you say use <nbsp6> ? Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 09:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Eep, I am allergic to userboxen, and you mentioned the unmentionable t*b-word!

Tabs are horrible; they behave differently on different systems. As with any kind of fancy formatting, you might end up with something that looks good on your system, a bit rubbish on someone elses, and that breaks completely on e.g. mobile device. Another major consideration should be accessibility - pages should be easily navigable by e.g. people with screen-readers (blind), etc.

Having said that...anything can be done; I leave it as an exercise for the reader as to whether or not it should be. So, to answer your questions;

1. Alignment of userbox on right;

One option - using userboxtop

{{userboxtop| align = right}}
{{User wikiprayer}}
{{userboxbottom}}

Userboxes

This Wikipedian recites the Wiki Prayer regularly.God, grant me the serenity to accept the pages I cannot edit,
The courage to edit the pages I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.

This text is after the codes. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

See Template:Userboxtop.

Another option - wiki tables

{|
|-
|{{lorem}}
|{{User wikiprayer}}
|}

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

This Wikipedian recites the Wiki Prayer regularly.God, grant me the serenity to accept the pages I cannot edit, The courage to edit the pages I can, And the wisdom to know the difference.

See Help:Table

...other options include the use of 'Div'.

2. DIFF links;

Diffs cannot be wikilinked; you have to use external linking - e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Chzz/test&diff=318423552&oldid=318389186 something] = something.

You can put a span around it to suppress the 'external link' icon; <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Chzz/test&diff=318423552&oldid=318389186 something]</span> = something

3. Non-breaking spaces;

You should use &nbsp; for these. You can use spaces for several, e.g.

{{spaces|6}}This text is indented by 6 non-breaking spaces.

      This text is indented by 6 non-breaking spaces.

But remember: unless you have a very good reason not to, keep it simple!  Chzz  ►  10:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, Chzz. I will away and experiment. Trafford09 (talk) 11:16, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

McFarland School District

Hi. When you were editing the above, I was in between making further edits.

My largest edit got caught by the 2 tags you added.

So, I backed out your last edit, & re-installed my pending changes.

Then I undid some of my changes (see its History for why).

So that I stay the 'good guy', would you mind reapplying your tags?

Your edits were helpful though, not least the one pointing me & others to wp:overlink.

Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 10:33, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so I get to play the bad cop? Heh; OK then - done. Note, I removed the names too - concerns about WP:NPF. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

Thanks for your message and your tips on using Wikipedia. I appreciate your advice! AllisonShapira (talk) 15:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Note to self: FEED archived Wikipedia:Requests_for_feedback/Archive/26#Energy_Policy_of_the_Obama_Administration now live as Energy Policy of the Obama Administration. See user talk.  Chzz  ►  18:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Guidance Barnstar
		One should never take help for granted. That is why I give you this barnstar! Esuzu (talk • contribs) 20:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Greatly appreciated; please ask, any time - I mean that; I'm not too good on 'watching' pages; I'm involved w/ too many things - so if you think I can help further with this, or any other matter, please do ask again right here. Best,  Chzz  ►  21:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Invisible System

Chiz,

Although I do not understand fully Wikipedia, all journalists etc that cover my music have told me it should be on wikipedia. It is on itunes, it was up for World Music Awards 2010 Songlines, it has had major press coverage left right and centre and major radio play. The people involved are long established and known artists. I was in the world music charts etc etc

Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieleonharper (talk • contribs) 23:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Invisible System

editing it please help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieleonharper (talk • contribs) 23:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talkpage  Chzz  ►  00:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

That's helpful, I'll think how best to use it

Thanks for creating the list at User:Chzz/feed. I had started looking for a couple manually, became convinced it was worth identifying them but a fair amount of work to do manually. I share your thought that we should not approach them in an automated way. Let me give it a bit of thought - one thing I might do is check them out and identify areas of interest. For example, the recent request User:ScienceRulz2012/Crizotinib is fairly specialized, so I tracked down a couple small cell cancer experts, here and here. If I had a list of specialists, we could use them for specific articles. If they don't appear to be specialists, we might just ask them to help generally, but I'd like to write a custom message. --SPhilbrickT 23:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Definitely a worthwhile thing to look at. SPhilbrick, stwalkerster (talk · contribs) helped me to create that query, and I've just thanked them in Wikipedia:A nice cup of tea and a sit down#June 2010 and you might like to add a comment there.

Please let me know if I can help with it; otherwise, I will leave that particular mission to you.

I am also working on the FEED/transclusion thingy; not ready yet, but the work-in-progess demo of the idea is in User:Chzz/Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. I'm hoping to get the demo in order during the next week, then showing others (especially you) to seek opinion, before making it live. I'm working on making it automatically transclude the past 'n' days, and noting the 'oldest outstanding requests' at the top, and other things. I will work to improve it, before making the suggestion (on the FEED talk page) ASAP.  Chzz  ►  23:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Vertical alignment

Me again (shock). Now, I have this table: User:Trafford09/test-table, which I've created solely in order to force (so I hoped) each of the 5 rows to line up with each other, even though of course the text lines are single lines, whereas the symbols are more than one text-line's height.

Should the Table approach work? If so, how, and also how could I force gridlines to appear? (i.e. horiz. line after each row.)

Also, is there a better approach to using a table? I did try putting {{clear}} after each WP icon, but that gave me oodles of whitespace (which I know you don't like!). Ta muchly, Trafford09 (talk) 00:00, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, do you know any way of storing a segment of html (e.g. [[Image:Updated DYK query.svg|Did You Know|{{#ifeq:{{{small|}}}|yes|10px|15px}}|]] ) in some placeholder like &REG1, then using &REG1 multiple times? Trafford09 (talk) 00:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Use |- for each new row, and || between columns; See here - I think that was your intention?

To put something many times, just make a subpage and transclude it - e.g. I just made User:Chzz/dykicon containing the code you gave above, so if I put {{User:Chzz/dykicon}} anywhere, from now on, it produces that icon, e.g. etc.  Chzz  ►  00:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant - you make it look simple! Thanks as per usual. Trafford09 (talk) 01:25, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the quick response to the help me request. I have become more active in editing and have now been autoconfirmed.

I think you would make a good admin!

Again, thanks! Usual people in life (talk) 12:31, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi Chzz!

I wanted to thank you for welcoming me into the community. I appreciate all the information that you provided me, and I wanted to also thank you for looking over my article. I am going to add a few sentences per your suggestion and then upload it (I have been waiting to be autoconfirmed). Anyway, thanks again . . . see you around Wikipedia!

ScienceRulz2012 (talk) 04:43, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Chzz/Wikipedia:Requests for feedback

Should be on IRC soon, but regarding the dates: I totally failed. MSGJ said to use #time... I can't believe I totally missed that route :(. Anywho, I'll keep working on the rest of the stuff soon. —fetch·comms 16:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Invisible System again

Hi

I am looking but so pushed at work and home I can't get my head around how to add links etc properly e.g. to reviews

• http://www.amazon.co.uk/Punt-Made-Ethiopia-Invisible-System/dp/B0020H473M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1276121027&sr=8-1
• http://hangout.altsounds.com/reviews/112099-invisible-system-punt-album.html
• http://www.frootsmag.com/content/features/reviews_index/revs_ind_i.html
• http://www.flyglobalmusic.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&Template=Fly&search=invisible+system+ethiopia

Any help appreciated:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieleonharper (talk • contribs) 22:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

world music charts

would this also help?

http://www.welt-musik.net/?p=3153

no.148 in world music charts last year —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieleonharper (talk • contribs) 23:02, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Added to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Invisible system and commented on user talk. Chzz  ►  22:09, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Image sizes

Is there a guideline on image sizes? E.g., what about this edit? Trafford09 (talk) 10:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Size should not be specified unless there is a very good reason to do so. The size of default thumb'd images can be set by the user in their own preferences - and we like users to be able to set things their own way. See WP:MOSIMAGES and related guidance.  Chzz  ►  14:43, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Table manners

[T9] Where was I going wrong with this? Trafford09 (talk) 12:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

For some reason, you 'closed' the table early, with a |}. Also, you didn't put the | at the start of all rows. See this edit. Chzz  ►  14:51, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I don't think I registered, before, that it needed the | at the start of all rows. Thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Question

Chzz

I forgot to ask in my last message . . . how do you classify a page as "start class" etc. You eluded to this in your message to me, but I'm not quite sure how it's done.

Thanks!

ScienceRulz2012 (talk) 05:17, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

First, you need to make sure the talk page of the article in question has a WikiProject "banner" on it (an example banner would be {{WikiProject United Kingdom}}). To "assess" the article (change its importance and class values within the WikiProject's scope), the code would be something like:

{{WikiProject United Kingdom|class=start|importance=low}}

That creates:

Generally, there are the stub, start, C, B, A, GA, FA classes (the last two require a review first; they can't be arbitrarily changed). The importance levels are low, med, high, top. Hope this helps, —fetch·comms 13:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

ScienceRulz2012, The above is great advice, but as it might be a bit daunting to implement, I have tried to do it for you. I'm assuming the article in question is Crizotinib.

I have just created the talk page for it, and put it into two wikiprojects that I believe are appropriate - WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology and WikiProject Pharmacology. I gave initial settings as "start class" and "low" on the projects importance scales. I did that with this edit.

I have also asked on the talk pages of both those projects, for them to look at the article and consider assessment - please see here and here.

They are most likely to comment on the articles talk page, Talk:Crizotinib, so please check on that page over the next few days. Best,  Chzz  ►  16:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for the help! ScienceRulz2012 (talk) 00:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Favor

Hey Chzz can you do me a quick favor and move a page for me? Sami50421 (talk) 00:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

You could move it yourself - just click 'move' and put the new name?

But otherwise, sure - let me know which page, and where to, etc, and I'll look. Chzz  ►  01:02, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I would move it myself, however there is already an existing title of it. The article is Daniel Jonas (Days of our Lives), I want it to be just Daniel Jonas. Now Daniel Jonas is already redirected to this article, and I'm not an admin so I cant delete the page. I was just wondering if you could delete Daniel Jonas, and move Daniel Jonas (Days of our Lives) there. Sami50421 (talk) 01:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

{{adminhelp|Per above, please move Daniel Jonas (Days of our Lives) over the redirect Daniel Jonas, thanks}}  Chzz  ►  05:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done Valley2city^‽ 05:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Chzz  ►  05:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Advices on my contribution

Hi Chzz Thanks for your review on [cluster analysis in educational research]. You suggested my writing was like a school essay which i agreed. but after reading several wikipedia articles, i do not exactly have any clues about how to edit my page. would you mind giving me some advices???

THANKS Jucypsycho —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jucypsycho (talk • contribs) 03:55, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Answered on IRC / user talk page  Chzz  ►  04:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

badeeh abla

Hello Chzz, I'm really sorry to bother you. I added the Badeeh Abla entry that was submitted for review. This is my first one so I'm not sure what your comment meant about the sources and am not sure which statement needed review/additional/verifiable sources. Again, apologies, but any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Pineapplerubygirl (talk) 08:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)pineapplerubygirlPineapplerubygirl (talk) 08:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Answered on user talk page. Chzz  ►  08:51, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Freenode

per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC/wikipedia-en-help_founder_proposal#Comments

What is happening to the channel, i left a comment on the bottom about it

Sophie ^(Talk) 15:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

SamehraMalik

Thanx for your help Chzz. I would have thought at the age of 98 you wouldn't be so fast ;) lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by SamehraMalik (talk • contribs) 15:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Just a quick question...

Hi, can I ask if you have you ever been to a Wikimedia meet up, or do you know anyone on here who has? I would like to know what it is like :) Thanks! I could ask at the IRC, but I'm a bit busy. Chevymontecarlo 17:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Nope, to both, sorry. Chzz  ►  17:56, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, that's fine. I thought I'd ask the people who might know before going to the help desk for a change :) Chevymontecarlo 18:11, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Mmm, well, you never know, someone passing might know. Chzz  ►  18:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, someone else messaged me and pointed me in the right direction. Thanks anyway. Chevymontecarlo 20:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

hi

Dear chzz , I don't know why my username seems invalid in ur talk page so u did'nt send me the message

thanks alot :) :) :)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Persain sky (talk • contribs) 08:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

About our group!

Hi, I just sent you letter containing the list of our members' user-names.( I am the guy from Pels whom you talked to about developing Wikipedia.).And I give you the list here to as the following:

• Stevenpels (talk · contribs) (Site Admin at Pels.ir)
• Mr.Validation (talk · contribs) (This is me! :-])
• Insurgent666 (talk · contribs)
• diazepam92 (talk · contribs)
• persian sky
• Morphine Pels (talk · contribs)
• doctor hesabi (talk · contribs)
• hupaa (talk · contribs)
• Great Hunter007 (talk · contribs) (Site And Technical Admin at Pels.ir)

Thanks, Omid —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Validation (talk • contribs) 13:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

+Persain sky (talk · contribs)

Artifial Intelligence please

Dear Mr/Ms. Chzz,

Thanks for declining to review and upload my article on ARTIFICIAL Intelligence CS1351.

If you can please let me know what are the changes that need to be made so that this article can be uploaded into wikipedia, that would be greta

Thanks & regards Siva Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by SivaACH (talk • contribs) 01:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured here.

Also, please do not put your email address and phone number when you sign.

The article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Artificial Intelligence Tailor made for CS1351 Syllabus states at the top that it was declined as being original research.

Wikipedia articles need to be based on published facts, available to check in reliable sources. We do not publish information that has not already been published elsewhere. See WP:FIRST.  Chzz  ►  01:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Archive bot

Hi Chzz, I have the same bot as Jimbo and it is just not working, could you have a quick look and see if you can let me know why? Off2riorob (talk) 16:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

You have the counter set to page 58 with |counter = 58, and that page, User talk:Off2riorob/Archive 58, is a redirect. I think you need to change the counter to 8?  Chzz  ►  06:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for having a look Chzz. I have done that and will see if if starts up again. Off2riorob (talk) 12:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

The miza bot has starting work again, many thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks a lot !

DEAR CHZZ, It was just a typing mistake and now I have this one! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Persian sky (talk • contribs) 15:07, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool, no worries; I've marked the old account Persain sky (talk · contribs) as 'abandoned' :-) Thanks,  Chzz  ►  16:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:IRC/wikipedia-en-help founder proposal

A request for comment has begun on the subject of Wikipedia:IRC/wikipedia-en-help founder proposal.

This notification was sent to all users listed in the IRC channel as an operator or above, and group contacts.  Chzz  ►  01:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC) BUMP Chzz  ►  02:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "DJ Yonny"

A page you created, DJ Yonny, has been tagged for deletion... etc (snipped)

Thank you.   — Jeff G. ツ 15:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I only created it as a redirect; looks like an IP tried to make an article there, but they've changed it back to a redir? History.  Chzz  ►  16:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I guess they saw reason, Thanks.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at Jeff G.'s talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

DYK nomination of Classic book

Hello! Your submission of Classic book at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Quasihuman (talk) 18:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

cf. User_talk:Shearonink Shearonink (talk · contribs)  Chzz  ►  18:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

 Doing...

A Report

Two furrther good articles. But also wondering about teh article about me which you helped with back in December

To: Chzz From: Howard Z

It has been a while since talking with you. I can report that I have two further (after the Birch one) good articles put in. While they need some further work, the basis is there and is understandable. These are:

 "The Stereochemistry of Ketonization of Enols and Enolates; Kinetic Protonation"
 "The Möbius-Hückel Concept"

It was my early work which got the two ideas going but since then they have been a subject of a lot of research papers. Curiously, the first concept was "rediscovered" twice - once by Takano in Japan and once by an old friend of mine in Germany (Siegfried Hünig in Würzburg) who was very embarrassed when I noted the early publications. The second item is the counterpart of the Wooward-Hoffmann orbital symmetry work which got a Nobel prize for Hoffmann (Woodward had died).

Chzz, in looking at the article about me (Howard Zimmerman) and "Discussion" I see references to stuff I had written to you back in December. At that point I didn't know that it would have been better to have sent the stuff via e-mail but not it looks embarrassing and it cited in that "Discussion". That I sent you all that stuff including the picture seems proper but having it advertized (advertised?) isn't great.

As noted it has been some time since I last wrote. You have been a terrific help in learning how to do Links, References, pictures, etc.

My outlook now is to put things into Wikipedia that I don't plan on publishing elsewhere, or to put only the core material with the hope that others will expand on the articles.

The limitation seems to be that there are not many editors who a familiar with items of the kind I've written. Most seem just to take things from a textbook, and these are less interesting.

I'll end with best wishes,

Howard

I'll put in the signature and the tildes . Somehow I get complaints if I put in only the signature and complaints if I put in both.

Howard E. Zimmerman 20:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC) --Howard E. Zimmerman 20:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hezimmerman (talk · contribs)

Hi there! Nice to hear from you.

Let me deal with this signature trouble first. There seems something wrong in your settings, because when you 'sign' with the ~~~~, it is not putting links to your pages - that's why people are complaining about it. So, please;

• Click on 'my preferences' at the top right
• Remove anything that is in the 'Signature:' box
• Make sure that the little tick-box underneath, labelled "Sign my name using the provided wikitext." is definitely not checked (un-check it, if it is)

I hope that will fix it.

Re. the talkpage Talk:Howard_Zimmerman, I have removed that old discussion - it's no longer relevant.

The ideas for new articles sounds good; best of luck with it. Again, I don't know the topic area, but of course if I can help with the Wikipedia side, please ask. Nice to hear from you again, best,  Chzz  ►  21:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I didn't forget

about that nice file you created, but the weekend went too quickly (my daughter was visiting for the weekend,something I didn't know at the time I promised to look at the file over the weekend). I haven't forgotten, and will try again this coming weekend.SPhilbrickT 21:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem at all, no deadline, etc. I have not yet had the chance to help implement the changed structure to FEED either - I hope to soon. Working on too many things. Chzz  ►  22:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Send An Email

you have mail Sophie ^(Talk) 09:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Answered. Chzz  ►  16:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

{{talkback|JamesBWatson|Stafford Collegiate}} 16:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Ongoing/noted. Chzz  ►  16:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

smile

Hello Chzz, Usual people in life has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

You deserve it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usual people in life (talk • contribs) 18:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It's Mel

Hi Chzz. I created the username MeltemNY, I'm now poking around trying to edit some of the content. I am not able to do a live talk from my desk, I'll have to log onto another computer a little later on. Thanks again for all your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meltemny (talk • contribs) 19:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You're a reviewer now

Deal with it, punk. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Ooh. Do I get a t-shirt or something? Cheers, anyway. I'm following the test, so I'll try to get involved. Chzz  ►  14:15, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Queue

about the rejection of my article

Hello, I tried to create a an article about a new system I have been involved in: the companies' ID system, their DNA numbering identity. So far, only one system existed worldwide: the DUNS number, designed and managed by the US company D&B. I worked with fellows from Coface (a French company) and Creditreform (a German one), and we reach this global solution currently broadcasting... Can you tell where I was wrong in this article? I kept some more details for further updates, but I think all my statements are sourced... Thanks in advance

Guy Debaux —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierre paul jacques (talk • contribs) 15:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Re. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/EasyNumber

The submission was declined as 'not verifiable', correctly; you undid that. I've put it back - the message at the top does explain the problem. Two things;

1. You are very strongly encouraged to avoid editing Wikipedia in areas where there is a conflict of interest. Please read the business FAQ.

2. Articles need to show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the source". See WP:VRS. A press-release and the company website does not do that.  Chzz  ►  16:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

To: Chzz, From: Howard Z

Chzz, thanks for the help.

I removed my name from the Signature Box on "my preferences" and unchecked the box on "Sign my name with the...etc".

I do have two questions: 1) When I get a message from you, there is the statement that I can removed the alert regarding the new message by removing the {{user:chzz/tb}}. But I haven't found a {{user:chzz/tb}} to be removed. The one in the message isn't removeable.

2) I seem to be the only one whose real name appears everywhere. How does one arrange for a nickname?

I realize it is late in England now and don't need immediate answers.

With very best wishes,

(Now see if my four tilde's show up properly)

Hezimmerman (talk) 22:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Great, the signature works!

1. There is; for example, right now, in the "A report" section on your talk page is the code {{user:chzz/tb|A Report}} - that is the code that produces the 'alien talkback' thingy. You can simply remove it, and the message will disappear.

2. Your username can be anything you like (except promotional/offensive etc), and you can request for a change of name, at WP:CHU. It takes a few days. You don't have to use your real name, and many people choose not to. Chzz  ►  23:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Reply to Question

Thanks for the reply it is appreciated. Within the article in question and the same section regarding sectarianism, how much of this should be on a football clubs article? This has been raised before by another editor on the project football discussion page but no one has really taken an interest as it only seems to affect the rangers article. Another neutral said that the section looked incoherent (i.e. just randon events bundled together to gain weight for the topic), what would your opinion be of the section as it is now and the proposal that was given?(Monkeymanman (talk) 20:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC))

From a brief check, I'd say that the "See also: Sectarianism in Glasgow" at the top of that section should instead be a Main article: Old Firm, that that article should be improved and expanded (possibly with some of the text from the Rangers article), and that the section in the Rangers article could be shrunk down by at least 50%, and probably to two paragraphs - ie summary style.

I hope that helps - as I say, it's only based on a quick look. I can't see the point in duplicating the info on the sectarian rivalry on both team articles; summary-style allows it to be kept separate. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  07:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again for the reply, I have posted this argument on society sports and culture, WP:Football and asked for neutral editors opinion (so far no reply as yet). Replies from the society have agreed with the fact that the section is overweight and the proposal was along the right lines. Where do I go from here. The article and section really needs neutral editors (editors who have never really edited the page before) to look over it and give strong opinions about which way to go. Thanks for any advice and guidance in advance.(Monkeymanman (talk) 19:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC))

Be a bit patient, and see what happens - you've asked around; some people only log in once a week. So wait for at least that long, and monitor the discussion. If you get a clear consensus, make the change - but there's no rush. Best of luck,  Chzz  ►  03:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

ResPublica

Hiya Chzz. I know you're always busy, so please either ignore this, or read on & react if/when time ever permits.

ResPublica is my first proper article, inspired by reference to it externally. I looked it up on WP & found it missing.

I know I need links into it, e.g. from Phillip Blond.

If there are any changes you suggest (or easier for you to do them & I learn by observing your edits) then subarashii.

I also know I could add it to the Wikipedia:Requests for feedback page!

Re icons, stylized caption [ResPublica, changing the terms of debate] & picture - I found nothing on WikiCommons, so am I allowed to 'borrow' them from the ResPublica home page?

Wonder if it'll survive its birth! (My fault alone if I let it.)

BTW, T minus 3 days! Trafford09 (talk) 23:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't use another Wikipedia article as a reference; instead, you could check the sources on that article, and use them - if they are appropriate reliable sources. In general, it needs more independent reliable sources - try Google Books, etc. Add neutral, balanced facts from those - it's certainly got potential.

When you use the same reference more than once, use a "named reference" to avoid all the duplication - see this edit. That's covered in User:Chzz/help/ref.

Use citation templates, to make for better, more standardized references e.g. [2]. See User:Chzz/help/refs (note, different link to last one).

Avoid too many lists. Prose is preferred - try to write in paragraph form, not just bullet-points.

I'll tidy it up a bit more. Please add stuff from WP:RS. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  02:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant, Chzz. I've studied all the changes you made - thx for the tips & the explanations in ESs.

So, should one use 'cite web' for every <r ef> (except subsequent sausages)?

Should each 'cite web' have a full set of parameters? Even if some not used (or maybe they should always be?)?

Oh - I used bullet-points to make the sections look bigger - thought it may morph into a redirect if there didn't appear to be much in the article!

I didn't have any joy on Google Books from 1/1/2009, but I've found & used the best from these on Google News.

Re icons, stylized caption [ResPublica, changing the terms of debate] & picture - I found nothing on WikiCommons, so am I allowed to 'borrow' them from the ResPublica home page?

Much obliged, Trafford09 (talk) 08:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I suggest using an appropriate cite tag for all references. Although I did use {{cite web}} there, usually I don't bother with all the different ones ({{cite book}}, {{cite news}}, etc), instead I use {{citation}} for everything - because, that one has the parameters to cover all kinds of sources, and it leads to a more consistent format. For GA-quality articles, the exact formatting of the references becomes very important, so it's easier to 'standardize' on the all-encompassing {{citation}} tag, in my experience.

I can understand your wanting to 'stretch things out' with the bullets, but really, it does need more references. It's a bit debatable whether it currently shows "significant coverage". What about the stuff in http://www.respublica.org.uk/press-and-media ? I haven't read through it, but aren't some of those reliable sources, with info that could be added?

For the pictures, the best thing to do is to contact the company, and ask if they can supply some, with an appropriate licence. Its probably OK to use their non-free logo, but you might as well ask first - they have a 'contact' thing on their website, and I would imagine they might want their logo and some other images to be freely available. If you can get them to email pictures with a suitable release, we can use them - my own release thingy is in User:chzz/help/myboilerplate. It never does harm to ask, so give it a try. Chzz  ►  01:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Alan Riley

Woops. The perils of new articles.

Got me a G11 CSD on Talk:Alan_Riley. Surely he's notable? Am I ok to carry on editing it, but de-advert it where poss.?

How long have I prob. got, to get it in order, before it 'vanishes'? Regards (T-1), Trafford09 (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Ooh - update - please see this. Guess it's good news in the long run. Trafford09 (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Kamalaya

Chzz, Just wanted to personally thank you for all of your help and support. I might call on you from time to time, I hope that you don't mind. And seriously, if you're ever in Thailand, give me a shout!! Thanks again for getting me back on Wiki! Sawadee :) Grimmbones (talk) 09:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks!

thanks for the help getting the logo back up on the article I created! could not figure out how to get that back in on my own Colleenaoreilly (talk) 15:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Colleenaoreilly

Talkback

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:| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar! Just thought you should have one

You haven't gotten one of these spiffy things in a while, you deserve it.

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		For your work in #wikipedia-en-help on IRC. Ϫ 17:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

RFF

I notified everyone with a recent entry that was not completely resolved with the following...

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Hello! You recently posted a Request for Feedback here. We are currently "remodeling" the Requests for Feedback system and all entries have been archived. They can be found here. Any responses or posts there, however will not be seen. If you need additional feedback or have any questions, feel free to post at my talk page, or, when it is done, the new Feedback page. Also, we encourage you to help provide feedback! - No matter how new you may be, anyone can read an article and provide constructive comments!

If you have any questions or need help, feel free to leave me a message at my talk page. Happy editing!~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 04:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

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Also, I plan to re-add ones that didn't get any feedback when it is done. ...so I think we're ready - should I archive it now? ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 04:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I like the bold move, and I think it's a good approach - but I'm confused; the above (and on the user talk pages) you're linking to Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/Archive 19, and I'm not even quite sure what that one is; the navigation template on the top of it is...wrong. The latest is Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/Archive/28 - and note the /. There is also an Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/Archive/19.

I think...you've put them into Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/Archive 29?

To avoid any further confusion and complications, I won't move anything around - leaving it to you; let me know.

I think, yes, we could certainly just go ahead with things. I think we'll need to make pages the same as User:Chzz/Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2010 June 9 (is that one OK?) but with the dates changed for each page - perhaps for June 1st onwards? And then we could populate them with the outstanding requests. We could do that stuff now... do you have any suggestions how, or could you create them or something? Or I can, with a bot. Once they are all made, then yes, we could certainly just change the main page to transclude the past few days, like the 'demo', and move that new navigation page over. Note the demo also has an adapted edit notice, and things. Some bits will need tidying up...but I expect we could deal with those issues as they arose.

So - let me know. Feel free to just do things, also. Hope we can get it sorted out. Thanks v. much,  Chzz  ►  04:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

(overlapped message) I've archived it and left a notice. I think we should go ahead with the change now - everything is ready, the transclusions only need to be updated and then I can transfer some of the unreviewed ones to today's entry and it'll be up and running.~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 04:43, 18 June 2010 (UTC) (end)

Hmm - I messed that up. I'll redirect /Archive 19 to /Archive/29 and move the content there also to fix it (I'd assumed that it used standard archive numbering and accidentally used 19 instead of 29. I'll start laying the foundations for the new page tonight also - I doubt I'll finish. And the new design looks much better (also the June 9). Thanks for doing that! ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 05:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, no worries; I think...well, let's just both keep doing what we can; I think it'll work out. I may or may not just sort out some bot-way of creating the pages for June - but you'll see if I do it. And if you happen to do it first, that's all fine too. They'll be called Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2010 June 1 thru to the current date or end of month, so we'll see 'em.

I suggest we just make 'June' for now; see how it goes. We might want to make the whole year later; shouldn't be a problem, but we might end up wanting to tweak the format, so I think just making the current month is logical.

Just keep in touch, let me know what you do, and I'll do same.

Don't know if you use IRC; you can mostly catch me 'live' - [here, or whatever. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  05:20, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Er, scratch that; I've started making pages for June now; it's prob not worth much automation for this (for now) - won't take long to just make 'em "by hand" / semi-auto. Chzz  ►  05:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

That sounds good, and the page is only one edit away from at least being in functional condition. ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 05:39, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

C-CAMP addition

Hi Chzz,

Sorry to bother, I have added some more independent sources to showcase C-CAMP visibility. I will deeply appreciate your help.

Best,

TS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mailtaslim (talk • contribs) 10:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks, was suffering total incomprehension, now not, replied properly on my Talk page. Cheers! DBaK (talk) 11:26, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Is this OK?

Hi, just completed archiving my first feedback request. I wanted to check if everything's in the right place and things - I posted a messageon the user's talk page. I hope this is OK. Chevymontecarlo 12:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

That's fine - thanks - but, in the meantime, we've restructured Feedback, so there is no need to archive anything, any more. Now there are separate pages for each day, we no longer need to move old requests into a separate archive.

The main WP:FEED page will automatically just show the past few days. This saves the problems with llinks cahnging etc, and with the page getting too large.

This change happened between my leaving you the message, and your reply.

So - thank you very much, and please do continue to give people feedback - but there is no need to move old requests to the archive any more. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't notice. Sorry. I will continue to work on the requests. Chevymontecarlo 12:58, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Feed

Sorry, was night for me, may be able to get online longer later today. —fetch·comms 13:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, no bother at all, Fetchcomms - I just wanted a bit of help with it, so asked around - and I got help. It's happened, and...overall, I think it's OK. Some bits will be wrong, and need tweaking, but the basics are now in-place.

Hope you're having a good break. BTW, I will try to deal with FFU, which is backlogging in your absence! Cheers,  Chzz  ►  15:45, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Cimicifugia

Hey Chzz, I liked your thorough reply on User talk:Cimicifugia (I was patrolling the help category from the admin dashbpard and stumbled across it). You got your link wrong though- I think you meant WP:FORUMSHOP (aka WP:PARENT) not WP:SHOP, which is about shopping centres! ;) Always a pleasure to bump into you anyway, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks everso much - I missed that, and it's v confusing when links are wrong. Greatly appreciated.

Being as you are here... can you have a quick look at this? I know we cannot 'block on request', but perhaps you could check contribs and give it consideration. (If you'd rather I request this elsewhere, just let me know; it came up in online chat, and being as you were here I thought I'd mention it). Many thanks,  Chzz  ►  15:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Schoolblocked for a year. Easily justifiable given that the talk page is littered with warnings and blocks even if someone hadn't requested it. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks muchly. Chzz  ►  18:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

happy bday

happy bday bet your watching tv —Preceding unsigned comment added by LooseheadNo1 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Cheers mate! Yes, of course I am watching. Come on England! :-)  Chzz  ►  18:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I didn't know it was your birthday yesterday. Happy birthday anyway. I was offline :) - Loughborough was a real ghost town almost whilst they were playing! Chevymontecarlo - alt 11:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Response

Please see my response to your comment on User:Raamin's page. --BF 22:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I pointed someone in your direction...

I hope you don't mind - it was a question on the Reference desk and I thought you'd be ideal to at least point them in the right direction, as you seem to use bots a lot. Again, thanks and I hope you don't mind - I understand you are often busy here. Chevymontecarlo - alt 11:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

That's fine, Chevy, thanks for telling me. I wrote what I could. Chzz  ►  02:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done

Starting out :)

Hi I am Keninuk and I thank you for your really nice welcom message to me.

I still find it very hard to add a picture from my own PC to an article. (there are no copyright problems of any kind)

Would it be better if I use the open source Tiki platform to help add content more easily?

Thanks a lot for your time.

Ken

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Keninuk (talk • contribs) 21:45, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there.

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

Do that instead of putting your email; it's a bad idea to put your email address on pages anyway, because of spam problems.

I don't know what "open source Tiki platform" is, but anyway...to use a picture, you first need to upload it, through Special:Upload.

Sample picture

The 'code' to use it on a page is, for example;

[[Image:Bhupendra Singh Patiala.jpg|thumb|Sample picture]]

...the results of which are shown here.

If you have any troubles with it, let me know. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  22:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Help

The user AnmeFinotea hasn't given me a reason for why Awards should be called Awards and nominations or for why Cast's can't have tables? Wetcloth20 (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

And now the user changed the rules in WP:FILMCAST. Can they do that? Can they simply change the rules? And now she is making me look bad because I was blocked. Wetcloth20 (talk) 16:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia policies and guidelines are pages, like any other, that anyone can edit. Per WP:BRD, users are encouraged to boldly edit pages. If another user objects to their edit, they are at liberty to revert it - and then, we discuss it, and form a consensus about whether or not it is a worthy edit.

This applies to all pages - articles, and policies.

We do not block people as 'punishment' - we only block to prevent harm to Wikipedia - for disruptive editing. Do not take it personally.

Please, relax; ask for as much help as you like - but please, try to stay cool.

Come and chat to us, with this link - just put in a nickname, click 'connect', and then say hello in the white area at the bottom.

I hope we can sort out any misunderstandings.  Chzz  ►  17:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

This user clearly has something against me. I don't know what but they are even harassing me over at the Commons AnmaFinotera Wetcloth20 (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Have tea.  Chzz  ►  19:20, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

12:34, 21 June 2010 LessHeard vanU (talk | contribs) blocked Wetcloth20 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: WP:SOCK of EunSoo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log))

Talkback

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at GregJackP's talk page.
Message added 21:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Duly noted, thanks for letting me know. Chzz  ►  22:11, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

{{talkback|EdoDodo}}

Answered. Chzz  ►  00:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Awards

Does Wikipedia have like instructions on how to use tables? I am trying to construct a table for the awards section of Im Su-jeong Wetcloth20 (talk) 00:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

See Help:Table. And please note that IMDB is not a reliable source.  Chzz  ►  00:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay I will find something other than IMDB. What do you think of the table? Does it need work still? Wetcloth20 (talk) 00:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I've tried to fix it; I recommend keeping things as simple as possible. Im_Su-jeong#Awards.  Chzz  ►  00:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for helping me. :D Wetcloth20 (talk) 00:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

inre Denizen (film)

Seeing a similar image tagged for deletion on User:Action grrl's talk page, and unaware that you had done a similar upload, I myself did the same thing as did you with my own uploading of File:Denizen movie poster.jpg though with a somewhat more detailed FUR. With yours now orphaned (sorry), shall we wait for deletion through normal process? Or might you tag yours with {{db-author}} and beat the rush? Best, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I can't tag it as db-author, because I'm not the original author. I'd just leave it to time out, to be honest. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  06:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. I appreciate your assist. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Classic book

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Puppy

If you disagree, you could have simply abstained from taking any action and just note your personal view. That would have been the elegant way. Instead, you will have it your way because I just don't have the nerves or time to fight (let alone educate) people like you anymore. But I promise I'll register -- if and when you in turn abandon your account. Thanks, bye. --78.34.204.107 (talk) 15:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Ref. diff  Chzz  ►  15:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

UAA

I see where you are working with someone on an article. However, their name has been reported at UAA. Could you mention to them that it would be best if they changed their username? Cheers! TNXMan 21:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Already done; they've scrambled the password, and created marcusagexe (talk · contribs) (in accordance with WP:SPAMNAME etc. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. I've left an update at UAA. Cheers! TNXMan 22:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

The Lazarus Effect

I have edited the entry to resubmit it. Please advise.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Heh. You declined Jimbo's article??!? Prepare for doom! {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 10:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

It's great that there are people willing to work with new article creators on subjects they might be unfamiliar with, like context and adding inline citations. Well done Chzz. Weakopedia (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Heh. See User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 60#Your submission at Articles for creation and User talk:Jimbo Wales#AFC, Archive, and re. new users making articles.  Chzz  ►  16:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Latter now User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 60#AFC, Archive, and re. new users making articles - no response yet.  Chzz  ►  17:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Another Question

Since you answered one question for me, maybe you could answer another. In your experience, have you learned any tricks to stand up for factual evidence against other users who don't without engaging in edit warring or personal attacks or what have you. I'm sure there are plenty of pages out there with advice, but I was curious from your own experience.

I thought in a few months i'd be ready for adminship(currently at 9 months and 4,000+ edits in) but I have to admit that now I wonder. Sure, out of that 4,000 and change, i've had edit wars for only a handful, but I just had one today where I got drawn in further than I wanted to and I couldn't get myself out as quickly as I would have liked. Doc Quintana (talk) 00:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at Doc Quintana's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Doc Quintana (talk) 01:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

(sorry this took a while to answer)

An important thing in all disputes is, to separate the content issue from the person issue(s). It's all about having a good 'argument' in the best sense of the word - a reasoned, thoughtful debate. I suppose, in some ways, it is easier to 'manage' if the other user(s) are not WP:CIVIL etc, because we have ways of dealing with that.

When the other user is cooperative, it is more difficult - an oxymoron.

I find the best approach is to get more people involved - often, there is a deadlock, and it's much easier to build a consensus with half a dozen editors participating than it is with two or three. Of course, being careful about WP:CANVASS, I try to seek people who will add their thoughts - by asking nicely on the talk page of project groups, or looking to related articles...trying to find people with a general interest in the subject area, and remaining oblivious to their possible agreement/disagreement with my own opinion. Apart from project groups, posting to noticeboards can help - not too many, not Wikipedia:Policy shopping - but often disputes are about RS, so WP:RSN can help, or WP:BLP/N, or using an WP:RFC.

It should go without saying that no deadline, stay calm, etc.

I've found myself bogged down a few times; sometimes I leave it for a while - a few weeks - and then check back on it. I keep notes on "things to look at again", as shown at the top of this page; when I have free time, I look through the list, and see what has developed. Time the great healer, and all that. As we have no deadline, it never hurts to step away for a while.

It took me a long time, and much heartache, to realise that WP:FUCK is the only way to keep sane - and that isn't a trite comment, it's true; step back and look at the bigger picture. If there is something a bit wrong about one of the 6,823,522 articles for a bit, does it really matter? I imagine that, in one shape or form, Wikipedia content will be around for a long time, and (few months) / (long time) = quite unimportant, if you see what I mean. Chzz  ►  22:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

help appreciated

Thanks for the help ! I can not figure out how to link to other pages of wikipedia . can you steer me to a guide on this subject . I do not see any difference for my page on the port of climax and the page of the village of climax which is 20 miles north of the port and has less significance than the port. for some reason i was seen as supporting "a cause". in fact i have no intrest in either the village or the port. thanks again

(Jay3bay (talk) 05:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)).

Hi there.

To link to other articles, you put the title of the article inside double square-brackets; for example, [[sausage]] makes a link to our article on that subject, like this: sausage. If the title differs from the text to link, you put, for example, He is a [[Dentistry|dentist]]., which will appear as: He is a dentist. For more on that, see WP:LINKING.

The article Climax, Saskatchewan is, indeed, also lacking in any references. Lots and lots of Wikipedia articles are - but, that isn't a reason to add more. However, note that it was created in 2007 - and Wikipedia standards have changed a lot since then.

That article - and many thousands more - need fixing. Wikipedia is an ongoing project, with no deadline. I just added the 'tag' {{unreferenced}} to that specific article, to highlight the problem; hopefully, someone will work to improve it. You could similarly have tagged it, and indeed tried to add references, or nominated it for deletion, etc.

So - Port of Climax needs references for the facts. :I'm pleased to see that you added one reference. I've just edited it and added a few sentences, beginning with The border crossing facility..., to hopefully illustrate the idea.

Some other comments;

• The phrase "The lovely Montana City" is not acceptable, because it is not neutral.
• The phrase "only a short drive" gives an opinion, not a referenced fact. "23.5 miles" (referenced to some book or something) would be much better.
• The phrase "Recent interest" should be avoided, because it will soon be out of date. Better to say "In 2010" or something.

I hope this helps.  Chzz  ►  23:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Swaffham Prior Chalk escarpment

Following your reply on my talk page, I was bold and merged Swaffham Prior Chalk escarpment into a new geology section of Swaffham Prior using the procedure specfied in full content merge. I would feel happier if you checked that I did this correctly. --Senra (talk) 09:55, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Looks great to me; nice work. Chzz  ►  01:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Trying to create Adult Children of Alcoholics

Regarding User:OmmadawnDK/Adult Children of Alcoholics.

You said: "You need to give references, to show that a topic is notable."

I have read and reread the definition, and I still don't get it. Why are my references not enough to prove that ACA is notable? OmmadawnDK (talk) 02:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops, that's my error; because the references were listed in a section called 'Notes' and because that appeared after the external links, I missed it. I've just edited it slightly, to put == References == in the appropriate place. Sorry.

You are correct, that it has sufficient reliable sources for notability. I would move it live myself, now, but I have a few remaining concerns - mostly, that there are unreferenced assertions. Really, everything needs a reference - but the parts that specifically concern me are;

• began in USA appr. 1978, among other by the adult child Tony A..
• about 700 groups in the whole world, about 500 of these in USA.
• The "Organization" section - without independent reliable sources, this might fail WP:NOTGUIDE etc. Without independent reliable sources, claims such as many members recommend that new members work the 12 step program (and in fact all of the section) are...well, it is not fact, it's opinion, and rather advert-like. See also WP:WEASEL re. "many". And things like There's a great cooperation between groups and countries is spam, to be honest.
• Similar for "ACA program" - needs chopping down. Cold, hard facts, please. Not "some", etc.

I hope that you do not mind my frank critique; I am more than happy to help you sort out the issues. Best,  Chzz  ►  02:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's good news, that I can move it live. That was my goal for now. I can work on the other stuff as time permits, but my goal right now was to conquer that little thing. So, how do I move it live? OmmadawnDK (talk) 13:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

To be clear: you can make it live, and I do not think that it will be "speedy deleted". However I think that it is likely people will add notices at the top pointing out the issues I have noted - {{reimprove}}, {{pov}}, {{advert}}, {{coi}} etc - which does not make for a good image. Additionally, they may well issue you with various notices, about your addition of uncited material, addition of promotional content, etc. - which does not reflect well on your account.

My advice is to fix those problems before making it live. There is no deadline.To move it to the live area, you just use the WP:MOVE function. Best,  Chzz  ►  13:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Jeh Singh

thanks very much for the help on the Wilkins page and the other useful links. looks good —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeh Singh (talk • contribs) 08:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! You're very welcome; any time. A couple more tips;

• 

  When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.
• Please add new comments with a == Section Heading == (or, use the 'new section' tab). Note, when replying, it's fine to reply within the existing section - and you can indent your reply with a colon : to form a 'thread'.

Please do ask for help, any time - I hope I'll see you in the live help some time. Best,  Chzz  ►  13:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

hey

HI chzz

I got banned from the chat room!

can you help me finish this article pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

thank you

jessie

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Technoaudio (talk • contribs) 17:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

Ref. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Missrepresent

I will try to look at the article, when I have free time. Chzz  ►  17:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

editsemiprotected

When looking at an editsemiprotected request, please check the reason that the page is semiprotected. If the page is protected to prevent socks from editing the page, it's generally a good idea not to honor them unless you can be absolutely certain that the request isn't coming from the person the page is protected against.—Kww(talk) 18:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Which one?  Chzz  ►  19:01, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, so I see you meant Adultdream (talk · contribs) - but I don't think that it is reasonable to ask people performing edit-semi requests to do a full background check. How could we be "absolutely certain" anyway? We are not checkusers. I also see that you have now used an edit notice, and I suppose that might help in the future. But really...from the perspective of the edit request, as I understand it the objective is simply to try to avoid vandalism, etc. I checked the reference, and the info seemed valid, so I think I did a reasonable job, no?  Chzz  ►  19:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying that you did something unreasonable. I just recognize you as being a fairly experienced user, and know that you can check a page's protection log and similar tasks. It's perfectly reasonable to ask you to check if the page is semi-protected due to socking. If you don't want to do the extra step of verifying the user, you are perfectly free to not process the editsemiprotected request when you see that the page was protected due to socking. The purpose of the semi-protection is to make absolutely certain that Brexx cannot influence article contents in any way, and sometimes I don't catch the edisemiprotected requests fast enough to erase them before people process them.—Kww(talk) 21:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Birch Reduction

Sorry I have not checked in with Wiki in a while. I looks like you have done a nice job on the Birch reduction. I will look over what you have asked me to do. Cheers.--theslave (talk) 18:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks.

Next time...please make a new section at the end of my page (down here) - on talk pages, please start new sections at the end, to keep things in order. Chzz  ►  18:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Yup, I was on my way to fix that. I have not edited in a while.--theslave (talk) 19:05, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

No problems!

It would be great if you could contact Hezimmerman (talk · contribs) - please could you look at User talk:Chzz/Archive 23#A Report, because he has further ideas. (If you want background info, there is the article, Howard Zimmerman, and there's lots in my archive, and on his talk page.

Many thanks,  Chzz  ►  19:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Suspicion

Are these 3 people the same person?

• User:Mageclansoftheeast
• User:Carl Francis
• User:Active Banana

It's just sort of weird that they happen to all edit on the same pages. 200.123.147.57 (talk) 20:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

If Active Banana were using socks then they would have !voted here [3] They did not, nor have they edited the article, methinks someone is chucking mud mark nutley (talk) 22:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

looking for adoption

Hey there Chzz, I was hoping that I could call on you for a little help/advice. I have been looking for someone to adopt me in order to comply with all of the standards and rules of Wikipedia. Do you have any suggestions, or recommendations? I have personally requested 2 people, one of which is no longer accepting, and the other has yet to respond, but I would like to get moving on things as soon as possible as I believe I have quite a long road to travel before I will be complete. Thanks for your time :) Grimmbones (talk) 08:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Answered on users talk page (for links)  Chzz  ►  10:19, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Ass article

The quotes I gave "not now in polite use" and "taboo - Old English" are not mine. They are quotes from well renowned printed dictionaries. They are not opinion but are an accurate statement of the fact of current practice. If I had stated "This word isn't used since I think it's obscene slang" that would have been opinion and not admissable. Personally, I think the "not now in polite use" is the best description and is worth recording. It is in reasonably plain English; using the word 'taboo' would have required further explanation (not needed in this context). It may be in a decade or more the usage will have changed, then the article may change to reflect this but should also record the history. The article for 'Gay' seems to do this quite qell!

The issue of correct spellings (and correct meanings of words) is quite complicated and is not captured properly in the Spelling article - but I'll leave that for another time.Scanrod (talk) 09:36, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I realise that - that's fine. I simply was not sure of the best solution for that specific page - so I left the request for others, and to get more ideas and opinions. However.... as you have now made the requisite 10 edits, you should actually be able to edit the semi-protected page yourself, if you wish! Cheers,  Chzz  ►  09:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Re:The Lazarus Effect

Hey. I've heard a lot of people talk about FPC being a harsh environment- I honestly hang out there because I find it more relaxing than other areas where I've spent time- NFC work and OTRS are both very stressful. In fact, the last few months have seen a much lower involvement in Wikipedia from me- it's FPC that has gradually brought me back, and I finally stepped back into the OTRS arena yesterday :) My honest opinion is that this one is not going to pass- the composition is unappealing, and it seems quite snap-shotty. Regardless of the quality of the image (which, I'll be honest, is definitely lacking) I just don't think that one's quite there. Compare it to some of the pictures I linked, and you'll start to see what I mean. I hope you're well, and I hope this experience hasn't turned you off FPC completely. J Milburn (talk) 10:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that! That's fine. I don't get stressed about anything - but I do find FPC harsh; it's not very welcoming to new/occasional visitors, partly due to the 'frank' criticism, and partly because of all the in-house terminology. But I do understand, and it's no big deal. Thanks again,  Chzz  ►  10:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

What is "FPC"?Shearonink (talk) 15:36, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

At a wild guess, I'd say FPC may be wp:FPC, i.e. Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. --Trafford09 (talk) 21:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Quite right. The above was re. User talk:J Milburn#The Lazarus Effect and Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates#The Lazarus Effect (film).  Chzz  ►  23:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

Hi , I am new to wikipedia.I don't know the rules of wiki i am hardly apologize for the mistake that was done by me.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aravindvijayanpala (talk • contribs) 13:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Algorithm

i got that thing from my text book and i cant think that it is wrong if so i again apologize..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aravindvijayanpala (talk • contribs) 13:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for responding, and please do not worry - we all learn from our mistakes. That's why we have the undo button! Please, continue to be WP:BOLD.

When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

A key policy in Wikipedia is verifiability - we want the reader to be able to "check the facts", and we do that by using references to reliable sources.

However, we cannot just copy the information from the source - we have to write it in our own words.

I hope you understand. Please read WP:V, and please ask, whenever you are not sure. You can talk to helpers live, with this - I hope to see you there. Best,  Chzz  ►  13:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Ode

Added Wiki-links (I'm sure I've missed some/many), fixed some references, did some minor proofing.Shearonink (talk) 15:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help

This is mostly just a test, but also to lay a note of thanks for the help in IRC. -- ͼͽM^ask? 21:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the very cool box

... that is, Archive Box Bridgettttttte_babble^poop 23:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Just to say goodbye

I'm leaving - not one admin has the cajones to stand up to Sarah, so I have better things to do with my time. I really enjoyed working with you. GregJackP Boomer! 06:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Last chance

... for England ... T - 5'38". Fingers crossed.

Also - less urgent -

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at Trafford09's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Matta ne, --Trafford09 (talk) 08:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Update: ENGERLAND, ENGERLAND, ENGERLAND !!!! --Trafford09 (talk) 16:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello, dear Chzz. Thank you very much for your help! - 12:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peducte (talk • contribs)

UAA

You're welcome. When I started as an admin, and patrolled UAA, I used to be very trigger-happy too, but then, partly influenced by User:Rspeer, I began backing off. I think the addition of UAA reporting to Huggle and Twinkle has led to a lot of overzealous reports, unfortunately. Daniel Case (talk) 17:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Chzz!But a problem!

Thank you very much for archiving Talk:Barelvi,but can't we set it's duration to 7 days?Cause the page is too dense and 365 days are just too much!

Coercorash^TalkContr. 06:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Of course, you can set it to anything - I put 365 because that's what you mentioned on your talk page, and whilst I thought it a bit long, given that page, I think a long time is fine. I've just changed it to the more 'normal' 180d; see this edit - if you wish to change it again, please edit it yourself, and just change in those two places. I do not recommend 7 days though - it's a bit extreme. Even with 180d I think that we'll mostly be on the minimum 6 threads.  Chzz  ►  06:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for late reply.Doesn't it'll be more stylish if we split talk page in to 5 archives consisting of 10 sections each?

Coercorash^TalkContr. 08:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

{{talkback|Wifione|UAA}}

/* James Martin Brabazon */

Hi Chzz :)

I am creating a new article @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Melba1/James_Martin_Brabazon#References and wondered if u have a minute u could check it over & make suggestions. (I'm not very good with inserting refs as u can see.)

Thanx in anticipation (Good luck at the World Cup!) Melba1 (talk) 08:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Answering on users talk page, to provide links to help, etc.  Chzz  ►  08:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm not connected in any way with the subject. What happened was, I heard him interviewed on radio, wanted to find info about him, and discovered he had no article, altho there's another (deceased) James Brabazon. Hence I wrote one.

Thanx again :) Melba1 (talk) 09:05, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

OK - that's fine then! Please work on finding appropriate refs, etc, and let me know if you have more questions. Chzz  ►  09:12, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

It's alright!

Talk page of Barelvi,which you archived,i now looking great!Actualy i saw it too early and thought it problematic.Now it's archived and looking good. Coercorash^TalkContr. 12:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Your comment

• Hi, I agree with you in the first matter but about the second matter you should check other articles similar like it which are considered for deletion in AFD like 1, 2 and 3.Should I put {db-promo} on article?Also,I have reported Sock puppetry about the article creator of Ultrabass BXR1800H.Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 12:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Two separate things;

• I wouldn't consider Ultrabass BXR1800H to be a blatant advertizing. When tagging CSD stuff, always err on the cautious side. If something says; FOO make the worlds greatest sausages, buy them here, call 1-23-456 or email foosausages@baa.com! then it's a blatant advert. But for something like that one, the thing to do would be - Google it, try to reference it, and if you cannot, use WP:PROD. A product like that is an encyclopaedic topic (e.g. Marshall 1959).

• Re. possible socks - yes, I am aware of that, and I was looking into it as you wrote,. However, AGF means that we should treat that issue separately. It's possible that a bunch of people decided to create accounts to make articles; I don't know yet. I'll look into that further.  Chzz  ►  12:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think that Ultrabass BXR1800H is written like an electronic catalog so wouldn't it should be send to AFD.?Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? —Preceding undated comment added 12:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC).

Well, first, always, I'd try to fix it - look for WP:RS. If I couldn't find any, I'd use WP:PROD. PROD can work quite well, and it doesn't "bother anyone", if you see what I mean. When you log an AfD, it means dozens of people will look at it, and several (hopefully) will add comments; if a PROD succeeds, all that time is saved - time which could be better spent. If the PROD us removed, then I'd take it to AfD. Chzz  ►  12:51, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

--> Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mackyquilala/Archive Chzz  ►  13:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Complain of a vandaliser

This user is vandalising Barelvi with his own PoV And accusing me of being having soft view.He is even making fun of my warnings. What should we do next?

Coercorash^TalkContr. 12:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for stepping in and putting an end to that! --Urduboy (talk) 18:41, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Warning issued to Coercorash  Chzz  ►  21:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

New article

Do you think I should write a new article about Brownism? Thanks.

--Thehelpinghand (talk) 16:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I think you should remember to log in :-)

Before starting it, read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brownism and 2nd nomination, and then start to gather references, if you think it is notable - I imagine it would be. It could probably make a good article, if done right. Best of luck,  Chzz  ►  17:01, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way you would be able to get me a copy of the old article before it was deleted please. Then I can extensively improve and just see what they put. Thanks.

--Thehelpinghand (talk) 17:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Thehelpinghand/Brownism  Chzz  ►  13:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Beach Nourishment COI Edit

Hey Chzz, thanks for your comments on my edit on the discussion page of the "Beach Nourishment" entry on Wikipedia. I made some revisions and created a user-space draft like you asked. Could you review it for me and provide some feedback? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Weissmax25/Beach_Nourishment

Thanks.

Weissmax25 (talk) 19:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. the proposed article still has a number of problems. Per WP:COI, I suggest that you edit other articles instead.

Issues with the proposal include (but are not limited to);

• three commonly accepted methods - accorting to whom? (see WP:V)
• All three of these approaches have advantages and disadvantages - according to whom?
• However, no one solution can be applied in all situations. - according to whom?
• This article concentrates on... - meta-information; this is not encyclopaedic. Just state facts.
• Re. section "Response Alternatives On An Eroding Beach" - this offers a biased view, opinion, not fact. For example,

There is a growing body of evidence - where? Prove that it is 'growing'.

nearshore breakwaters, if filled with sand, will not have a negative impacts on the littoral drift system. - according to perhaps that one source. Do others disagree?

Problems with vague terms, per WP:WEASEL, WP:PEACOCK etc. - Managed Retreat - A second option is retreat as the shoreline erodes. This option has been exercised very infrequently along the United States shoreline; however, a number of examples exist. Retreat the most appropriate option in areas of high erosion and in the presence of small economic revenue base. Many, but not all areas of high erosion are due to human activities.

• And so it goes on. "Sand or “Borrow” Sources" says, source of suitable material for a particular project depends upon... - opinion, not fact.
• The most important borrow material characteristic is ditto

I hope this gives some indication of the problems with conflict of interest. I highly recommend editing other articles. Best,  Chzz  ►  02:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I didn't started edit war

It were User:Urduboy and User:MatthewVanitas,so called neutral editors,who started the edit-war. That made me quote this:

IF majority of online users (2us1) can decide the truth in real world than it means that The day of Judgement IS NEAR.

Coercorash^TalkContr. 07:21, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

New article

Do you think I should write a new article about Brownism? Thanks.

--Thehelpinghand (talk) 16:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I think you should remember to log in :-)

Before starting it, read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brownism and 2nd nomination, and then start to gather references, if you think it is notable - I imagine it would be. It could probably make a good article, if done right. Best of luck,  Chzz  ►  17:01, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way you would be able to get me a copy of the old article before it was deleted please. Then I can extensively improve and just see what they put. Thanks.

--Thehelpinghand (talk) 17:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Thehelpinghand/Brownism  Chzz  ►  13:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

As ur daughter ...

Thanks for the help, again. Did u adopt me as a nubilian princess editor? Bridgettttttte_babble^poop 12:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hiya! Well, I do not go in for the official 'adoption' programme (I'm afraid of the poop!) but I am always happy to try and help anyone, as best I can. So, if you ever need help with anything, feel free to ask me, right here. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  12:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Question About Submitting Draft

(Loreensherman (talk) 11:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)). Hi Chzz, thanks for your advice about posting on Wikipedia. I certainly want to stay within Wikipedia's parameters and guidelines. I am confused because my article for Formulaic Communication in the 21st Century was moved to another talk page under a draft... Uncertain as to what that means. Please explain. (Loreensherman (talk) 11:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)).

On 21 June, you first created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Four Tests Formulaic Communication Passes in Economics - that is still there; it is a 'declined' submission, but that does not preclude further edits, and asking us to re-check it.

It would appear that you created an article re. "Continual Progression of Entrepreneurism" on your user talk page, and I then moved that to a subpage - that is now in User talk:Loreensherman/draft one, which you have edited and resubmitted here. Most of that article did not display, because of the incorrect reference format, which I have just fixed, here. It still, currently, contains almost entirely quoted material, rather than encyclopaedic fact; please do read other articles for ideas, as suggested on your talk page, and ask for a further review when it is more appropriate. Best,  Chzz  ►  03:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Chzz, It's time to become an Administrator

Chzz, do it! And please don't give me past viewpoints and stuff..... ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 13:13, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Honestly? It might be a little too soon yet.. but I'd say he does have a fairly good chance at succeeding at this point. But it could be a little risky.. -- œ^™ 01:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed; a meer 15,000 non-auto drama-free edits, it's far too soon to think about. Chzz  ►  03:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Chzz, man, sarcasm aside - just go ahead now. There are admins and there are admins, and there should be you now. You've done the call duty already. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Sarcasm aside - I am not sure if I want to go through that process again. I will give it due consideration; if I do decide to pursue it, I'll start an editor review first, and check what the people who opposed think. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  09:45, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Your rights.

• Hi, I've noted that you have abusefilter and accountcreator rights.I want to know what are they and how to apply for them.Please help me.Regards.Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 14:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

MaxViwe, we chatted about this when you emailed me remember? Instead of trying to collect rights for yourself that you don't even need, try focusing on editing articles instead. -- œ^™ 01:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, OlEnglish.

I was going to write more of an explanation here, but in light of the above, I merely suggest that full details of these rights are avaialble at Wikipedia:Edit filter and Wikipedia:Account creator.  Chzz  ►  03:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, OlEnglish.You are being very rude with me and treating me like a vandal.What's the problem if I will collect information about different rights?I want to know about different rights so that I can make my self illegible for those rights.As, we had discussed, I am not going to apply for these rights now-a-days.I want to apply for these rights when I'm little bit experienced with Wikipedia.So, Stop treating me very rudely.Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 05:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

OK; I do not think OE was being at all rude, and I certainly don't see any accusations of vandalism. I actually think it is good advice - editing articles is certainly the best way of learning more about Wikipedia. But anyway - in the interests of good faith, a short explanation of those rights;

• The edit filter checks new edits, and marks things that need checking further - like e.g. a new user removing a whole section. Originally it was called "abuse filter", and that old name lives on in the user right, and the special pages, Special:AbuseLog. The right allows me to view and edit the filters.

• Account creator means I can help make user accounts, when we get requests via email (when people can't type in the CAPTCHA thing or whatever). You don't actually need that permission, except for creating accounts with a 'similar name' and stuff. Read about that in Wikipedia:Request an account/Guide.

To get more involved with Wikipedia, perhaps you could have a look at WP:FEED and/or WP:AFC - we always need more help on those. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  11:11, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit Warring

Hello, I thought I'd let you know that I maintain my Talk page like an email inbox, when I receive a message and read it, or a discussion is over, I clear the page and leave the "blank" message so people know why. Otherwise there's too much clutter, so I don't mean it to be taken in any other respect. I also wasn't sure if the warning on edit warring was an automated response or that you may have wanted to get back to me. Regarding the edit warring however, an article ban on Kristoferb (talk) may be required as they refuse to accept that their images aren't suitable or a contribution to sertraline or paracetamol.

When I have disagreements with other users, I either seek the opinion of a third established user who has experience with the topic of the article, compromise or accept the decision. This particular user is beyond reason, claiming that NuclearWarfare (talk) is my "puppet", because this user also reverted the two edits in dispute on both articles. I have never communicated with this user, and the comment is preposterous. Sertraline is a featured article, which makes the warring more unacceptable, but Kristoferb (talk) refuses to accept the consensus of others. I have also notified NuclearWarfare (talk) that the user is persisting to revert edits when two users (including myself) disagree with the images being suitable or a contribution to the articles based on their non-English context and the presence of other suitable images. Kristoferb (talk) has their own interests at heart, not the quality of articles. Editor182 (talk) 01:48, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

The other user may well be doing wrong too, but that is not the point at all; I see no consensus for the edit on Talk:Paracetamol.

My message was partly a template, but only because the template text says exactly what I meant;

...users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

The remainder was my own, 'hand-written' advice;

"It takes two people to create an edit-war - why not relax, have tea, do not climb the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man. There is no deadline, it does not matter if it is the m:The wrong version for a bit. If it's a content dispute, it can be resolved through consensus. If others are not WP:CIVIL, we can deal with that too"

As long as you have read, understood and acted upon the warning, then of course you are perfectly at liberty to blank your user talk page. If you have any questions, please let me know. Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  03:27, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the reply. Thus far there is one other user on the sertraline page who has given their opinion against the image, but I'm not sure how far it has to go. I'm about to give up on this one, but it's a shame that an edit warring can allow a user to keep their revision in place even when it's 2 against 1, or in the case of the sertraline article, 3 against 1, and a dispute process has to be fulfilled. I was under the impression that an administrator could review the issue and decide which edit is more suitable and end it there. It's nothing major, though. Editor182 (talk) 03:57, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Question

• Hi, I want to ask you that can a user who don't have an Wikipedia account and contributes using IP address create an article?Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 05:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Not directly, no; only users that are logged in can create articles in the live namespace. Best advice to them is to create an account, but if they do not wish to do so, then the "Articles for creation" process is available; in that, they create a page in the Wikipedia talk namespace (where non-logged-in users can create pages), and it is reviewed and moved to article namespace if appropriate. For example, see User talk:12.196.37.227 - that IP user has created many articles this way.  Chzz  ►  11:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very very munch for you help.btw, What's the difference between Bureaucrats and admin and how they get such right?Max Viwe | Wanna chat with me? 11:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucrat is a 'housekeeping' type of function. They can grant admin permission (when the community has agreed to it via WP:RFA), give bot permissions, and change usernames. There are only 15 of them. They are nominated and selected via the same basic process as admins, at WP:RFB. Chzz  ►  13:00, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcoming message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecrash (talk • contribs) 01:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. You're welcome, of course, and I thought I'd reply - partly as an 'example' of how we can reply to messages underneath them, and alert the other person on their talk page, and partly to give a couple more tips;

• 

  When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time. You can also do this by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured to the right.

• Please always fill in the edit summary when you edit - it helps avoid lots of problems, because it makes it clear to others what you are doing. See e.g. the 'history' of the article Exodus, and you'll see that some other editors wrote things such as, Fixed typo in television section etc, which makes it much clearer.

• Remember you can ask for help any time, and a great way is to talk to us live with this link. Best,  Chzz  ►  13:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry chzz..........................  DAndC  02:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Sig oddity

Yes it's working like a charm now - many thanks for your patience. Best wishes DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 17:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Live

Senra didn't want that article live. She wanted it in her userspace.... Mr. R00t ^Talk 18:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

About the move, Thanks for showing me where most people have it, I moved mine to be next to the Talk button. Mr. R00t ^Talk 18:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Again, sorry for the mix-up; entirely my fault. I think it's all OK now.

Yes, the 'Vector' move-button is well hidden, which causes quite a few problems, which is specifically why I made that image to show people.

Thanks for your understanding.  Chzz  ►  18:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

for the burundian election revert(Lihaas (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Chzz. You have new messages at DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Thank you!

Thank you for giving me The Half Barnstar award. Wayne Olajuwon (talk) 00:41, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

"Curse Word"

You might of sent that message to the wrong user, as I was the one that used the "cuss word". STAT -Verse 01:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops. Fixed, I think/hope.  Chzz  ►  01:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

NWA Heavyweight Championship statistics

Hi, I used excel and data provided by wikipedia and other wrestling sites to determine how old wrestlers were by the time they won the championship. I would like to add Lou Thesz as the eldest champion, he held the championship from January 24th, 1963 to January 7th, 1966. On the last day of his reign he was 49 years and 258 days old.

Additionally, I would like to out in Chris Candido as the youngest NWA champion, he won the championship for the first time in November 19th, 1994 at the age of 22 years and 243 days old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.51.107 (talk) 02:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that sounds like original research or synthesis; facts stated on Wikipedia should be published in reliable sources, such as newspapers or books.  Chzz  ►  03:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Allowing the Nexus Program Article

This is Secretary Vice Assistant. As I said before, it is crucial that you allow the nexus program article to be created for this will be the only source of information on this topic. The only other source that will be publicized will be on a government access program. This means that normal civilians without clearance will not be permitted to view these files. If this page does not go into publication then no one will no what this program is. This program is a new program that has not gone into use yet nor has it been publicized anywhere. It will not go into use until a few years from now but we must notify the public first to reduce panic or harsh reaction. If you publicize this article I will send you the direct link to view the article on the CIA page as soon as it goes into publication. Contact me to discuss it further. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Secretary Vice Assistant (talk • contribs) 05:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

If the information is not published elsewhere, then it is not appropriate for Wikipedia, which only documents facts that are published by verifiable reliable sources; we do not permit original research. I suggest trying elsewhere.  Chzz  ►  17:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

You don't understand. This information is wholly and entirely new. It will not be published elsewhere for a while. You have absolutely nothing to lose for this publication. If it is not published within the next 6 months(which it will be) then you can simply delete it. or I will do so myself. I also said that when it becomes available on the CIA page i will give you the direct link. This is my last request. You will not be disconcerted any longer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Secretary Vice Assistant (talk • contribs) 20:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

We cannot accept it until it is published elsewhere. Chzz  ►  20:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

John Wilkins

Hi Chzzz How do i move the page i created - John Wilkins (Indian artist) to main space thanks Jeh Singh (talk) 08:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, John Wilkins (Indian artist) has been a live article since 17 May. I removed the header message that said it was a 'userspace draft' with this edit. You may wish to request feedback on it. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Newsletter delivery

Hi Chzz, can you please get ChzzBot to deliver WikiProject Malaysia's July newsletter? The newsletter is here and the member list/edit summary here. Thanks! BejinhanTalk 11:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Logged here, done, cheers.  Chzz  ►  17:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done

Thanks for your help and advice.

Hi Chzz, Thanks so much for your comments and suggestions on my John Dougherty page. I've updated some of the language and added more references. If you don't mind, I may ask again for your thoughts on future pages. AriZonaRosa (talk) 19:12, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments

Hi Chzz, Thanks for your comments on my talk page. Actually, people were pretty helpful when I first got started using Wikipedia. I haven't had the urge to edit anything else since, but I do appreciate your thoughtfulness. All the best, Allison AllisonShapira (talk) 23:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Mwanapedia

Hi Chzz Thanks for your help> I shall continue learning from you. You made me like more about WIKIPEDIA

Mwanapedia (Mwanapedia (talk) 02:58, 30 June 2010 (UTC)).

thanks

many thanks again. will trouble you later for more help :) Jeh Singh (talk) 05:39, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Deathly hallowslogo.jpg

I resized it; it was replaced w/ a clear CV on commons; I've undone that edit. Chzz  ►  06:05, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

re : edit of Thomas Clough Daffern page

Hi Chzz,

Afraid I had problems with the live connection this morning, so I thought the best thing to do since I cannot remember my original username and password for the above Wikipedia page, was to create a new account and set it up again. Is this ok? And can I cancel the old page somehow ?

Here is the last correspondence I had with you last year which is in your archive 14:

re: edit of Thomas Clough Daffern page

Thank you for responding so quickly to the suggested replacement article. Please can you explain in more detail the issue with copyright, and also if the references just need to be re-stylised in Wikepedia format? many thanks Chzz (Iipsgpeditor (talk) 12:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)) (Iipsgpeditor (talk) 11:21, 4 September 2009 (UTC))

Ref. Thomas Clough Daffern, see User:Iipsgpeditor/Thomas Clough Daffern  Chzz  ►  11:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The problem regarding copyright is, I googled for some of the phrases used in the proposed article and I found the exact same wording on various websites which are copyrighted.

There are other problems than just that, and the referencing layout, however. A core policy of Wikipedia is verifiability - that means that the reader should be able to check the facts by following the references. That's why we need to present facts given in reliable sources. A lot of the information in the article cannot be verified, and therefore would not be suitable for inclusion. Please review WP:FIRST and WP:BLP. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  13:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Will the following text be acceptable now ??

Draft article placed here, moved to User:Anandamayima/Thomas Clough Daffern June 2010  Chzz  ►  21:25, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

(Anandamayima (talk) 14:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC))

Copied over and answered on users talk page, User_talk:Anandamayima#re_:_edit_of_Thomas_Clough_Daffern_page.  Chzz  ►  00:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC)