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Climber Biography Article

Hi Cullen. Thank you for your comments on my article. I really want to understand what does it means independent sources needed for the article. Really appreciate your guidelines. Thanks. Anis2520 (talk) 06:47, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Anis2520. An independent source is a source which has no direct connection with the topic of the article. A person's own website is not an independent source for a Wikipedia article about that person. Neither is a website of an organization they are affiliated with. Nor a publication that they are a staff writer for. As far as mountaineers, there are widely recognized climbing journals that are highly reliable independent sources. Major newspapers and magazines are usually independent sources, except when writing about their own staffers and executives. Please read and study WP:INDEPENDENT. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:04, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Odd question, but humor me

Greetings User:Cullen328. I see that you're an eminent Wikipedian. Do you think that good will and idealism are keys to Wikipedian and human progress? Tapered (talk) 07:29, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello Tapered. Certainly, good will and idealism are exemplary virtues which are useful to Wikipedia editors and in all other worthwhile areas of human endeavor. But they are not enough in themselves for the successful building of an encyclopedia. We have policies and guidelines which were created in the spirit of good will and idealism in order to allow us to achieve the goal of a useful free encyclopedia which is constantly being expanded. So, keep your idealism intact while studying and internalizing our policies and guidelines. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:39, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
I understand the guidelines. Wikipedia is based, to some degree, on idealism and good will. It's not enough. Wikipedia is useful, but it's not for me to edit much any more. Teddy Wilson, when asked by Marian McPartland for an opinion about Benny Goodman, said something to the effect of 'Benny didn't know what he wanted, he only knew what he didn't want.' Sometimes knowing what one doesn't want is a leg up. Many Regards Tapered (talk) 08:08, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
What I forgot to say: thanks for the excellent advice. Tapered (talk) 08:10, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Editing Wikipedia successfully requires a certain very specific type of personality, Tapered, at least in my opinion. I am not sure that I can accurately describe that personality even while considering it essential. In a very real sense, editing Wikipedia is a hobby, and hobbies should be enjoyable. No one should feel obligated to go ice fishing if they do not enjoy sitting in a shack on a frozen lake, huddling over a hole chopped in the ice. I happen to enjoy editing Wikipedia because of my specific personality quirks. If you do not enjoy it, then I hope that you can find another hobby that will bring you great satisfaction. Take care. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Ernest Hemingway

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Captain Hollywood Project Photo

Hi Cullen328

thanks for your message. okay. so basically if i had tony email wikipedia commons could the photograph remain?

basically i plan on using it as a profile picture like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maxxmusicfan/sandbox

but you're saying tony has to make his work a 'free' work?

how does that work exactly? Maxxmusicfan (talk) 01:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Maxxmusicfan. Please read Creative Commons license and be aware that the versions acceptable on Wikimedia Commons allow any reuse for both commercial and non-commercial uses. Only the copyright holder can license the image. By far the easiest way is for the copyright holder Tony to upload the image to Wikimedia Commons himself, licensing it as he goes. If he tries to do it by email, the wording of his email must be legally precise and unambiguous. There will be a delay until his email can be reviewed for accuracy. The current version of the image should be deleted since it is licensed by someone (you) who does not have the authority to license it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)


hi Cullen328 i'm a newbie! how do i delete images from wikipedia commons? Maxxmusicfan (talk) 01:40, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Ask at the help desk there. Commons is a separate project and I have never deleted an image there, though I have added a lot of my own photos. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:44, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
last question. once tony successfully gets it uploaded to wikimedia commons with the proper permissions. i would like to use it as the profile picture in the infobox for this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Hollywood_Project i'm currently working on revisions for this article too and it's very important for me to get that image as the profile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maxxmusicfan/sandboxMaxxmusicfan (talk) 01:48, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
(talk page watcher)Hi Maxxmusicfan. Please see the response I left to your question about this at c:User talk:Marchjuly#Deleting a Photo. Also, it really doesn't matter that using this particular image file is important to you; what matters the most is using the file in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and according to consensus. The photo currently used in the infobox of Captain Hollywood Project seems fine to me. So, you may be better off seeing if there's a consensus to make such a change by discussing it on the article's talk page first per WP:CAUTIOUS. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:47, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Maxxmusicfan, I agree with Marchjuly here. What is "very important" to you is of no interest to experienced editors. We care only about the best interests of the encyclopedia here, not about what one editor or the subject of an article wants. As a matter of fact, when an editor who focuses on a single topic says that something is important, our usual response is "prove to your fellow editors that it is important to the encyclopedia". Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:58, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

My question on photos

Hello Cullen328,

Okay, so the article I have in mind is Uncharted (album). After I had written the article, I was trying to get the album cover on. I decided to let it drop for the time being, and submitted the article for creation. It was accepted, so I turned my mind to putting the album cover on again, but, a few days later, someone else did it for me. I was very happy, but I'm still wondering how to get an album cover on, specifically.

Pianoguysfan (talk) 12:12, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Pianoguysfan. Please read our policy on use of non-free images, specifically item #1. Cover art for albums, movies, books and so on can be added only to a mainspace article that gives critical commentary to such a topic. The image must be uploaded here on Wikipedia, rather than at Wikimedia Commons. You must upload a low resolution version. You cannot use such an image in a draft article or in a sandbox or anywhere else. Just in a mainspace encyclopedia article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:08, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Robert Plant

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Faisal Taj Article

Hey Cullen! Are you a cricket fan? This faisal taj is one of the top players in the USA Team, which is on its way to being a Permanent Member at ICC. Since it isn't a permanent member, these players (even the brightest) don't get much attention. I'm working on this profile, and I'm sure it will meet the notability standards set at Wikipedia. Thanks for all the help!Ahmed Ali Raza (talk) 18:01, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Ahmed Ali Raza. I am sorry, but I know very little about the sport of cricket. I will leave it to editors with experience in that sport to express an opinion about whether this player is notable. I found it a bit strange that there is no Wikipedia article about the Cosmos team he plays on. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:08, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Cricket is the only game that can take five days and end in a draw. The Rambling Man might be able to help or advise further. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:33, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Best bet is to discuss this with the folks at Wikipedia:Wikiproject Cricket who will give you guidance on what will pass as notable enough for an article. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh no not another RfA thread

Just a head's up, your name has come up (again!) on a draft list of possible future RfA candidates here. I'm not asking you to do anything, just telling you it exists. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, Ritchie333. If I decide to go for an RfA, I will be grateful for your support. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:19, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Just give me the nod and I'll do it. I reckon you'll get 200+ support, myself. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:44, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Technical help request

Hey Jim, I am having a bitch of a time getting my footnote 8 of Burlington railroad strike of 1888 to stop looking like a raw link. I'm not sure what the problem is and was wondering if you could take a look at it and see if you can spot if I am doing something wrong. Thanks, —tim /// Carrite (talk) 20:07, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi Carrite. It looks like there was an unneeded line break added between two words of the pdf's title. Just for future reference, the citation style your using is perfectly fine, but a citation template probably would have self-corrected this error or at least stated exactly what was wrong and where the problem with the syntax was. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Marchjuly, for figuring out the problem. I had a very tough real world job to complete today, so only had a couple of minutes to take a look, Carrite. I tried a couple of things that did not work. Tim, I agree with Marchjuly about use of citation templates. I find them very useful for creating complete bibliographic references, and they have self correcting features. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:23, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Erik Prince

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Lame excuses...

>> Continuing to argue about the matter after this has been explained to you repeatedly is approaching the realm of disruptive editing.

I don't think so Cullen328, I believe that it is a policy failure from your side as a community... You either change your policies (in the long run) so as to preserve quality or handle my case as an exception (exception handling) trying to do something about it (in the near future)...

I don't think I am disruptive editing in Anyway.

Jayabalan.joseph (talk) 02:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Stop posting on my talk page, Jayabalan.joseph. Thank you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:02, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for pinging me over at the Teahouse. I appreciate it. The Transhumanist 00:16, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Requesting for assistance

Good afternoon

I was asking if you could assist me with adding a location map on an article.

Thank you

Harrison-Montsho (talk) 14:34, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Harrison-Montsho. Which article? Do you have a freely licensed map? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:01, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I started an article well it is still in my sandbox.What do you mean by a free licensed map?

Harrison-Montsho (talk) 15:05, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Harrison-Montsho. I apologize for being slow to respond. I have been very busy in recent days. Any map used on Wikipedia must be either copyright free or freely licensed. You cannot just copy a map you find online because most such maps are copyrighted. Please check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps for resources regarding maps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:26, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for that.Highly appreciated.

Harrison-Montsho (talk) 07:53, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Gaslighting

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question about COI

I am a news representative in the News Office of a major research university. I am working on an article about an international expert on cyber who founded an institute at my university. I'm a professional writer and can write without superlatives. I am referencing practically every sentence with Department of Justice press releases, international news articles, etc. This person had international success prior to coming to the university. Do I have to indicate any COI status, please? Thank you. SharonSBlake (talk) 16:08, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello SharonSBlake. Yes, you must comply fully with WP:PAID, which is mandatory. You must submit your draft article through the Articles for creation process. Experienced editors tend to disapprove of excessive use of press releases. Instead, your references should be to published sources with independent editorial control. Writing a properly referenced encyclopedia article is very different from the type of promotional writing that you may otherwise do. Perhaps the best advice that I can give you is to defer to the advice of volunteer editors who have no stake in this person or your university. If your draft is accepted into the encyclopedia then you must not edit the article directly after that. Use the talk page to suggest changes. I gave you other links at the Teahouse is well. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:20, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
SharonSBlake, I took a look at your sandbox. I recommend that you upgrade your referencing style to include hidden URLs so that readers can click the blue linked article title in the reference to go immediately to the cited source. Please read Referencing for beginners. I recommend the use of Citation templates, which will prompt you to create complete standardized references.
Much better than a university press release is a newspaper article such as this one. As you develop the draft article, keep in mind that it should be a biography of his whole life, not a news story about the job he left and his new job. So, it is useful to add referenced content about his date and place of birth, education, family, earlier jobs and so on. That should be available in coverage of his Senate confirmation when he first became a U.S. attorney. I hope that this helps. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:45, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

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response to your teahouse help

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your response to my teahouse question about using a faculty person's webpage information as a source.

I responded to you in the teahouse forum, but was not sure if you would see that information.

This person is notable because of a professional mathematics award she received. She is on the women mathematician Redlist of notable WikiProject Women in Red that I am working thru.

I only work on biographies that were selected for the redlist.

If you feel, as a senior editor, that I should question some of the redlist selections, please let me know and I will evaluate my biography candidates more carefully. I assumed that Dr. Erica Walker's Falconer Lecturer Award of 2015 got her on the redlist.

Thanks for your help Maura MauraWen (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, MauraWen. I am not questioning this professor's notability and I do not know how much work is done in advance to verify the notability of the names on that list. The one thing I will say is that any editor who wants to write a biography ought to start by verifying that the person meets our notability guidelines. Thank you for helping improve our coverage of women in math and science. Take care. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Jim. Good advice MauraWen (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

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Project Help

Hello, I am currently a student at American University in Washington DC enrolled in a class called Wikipedia and Public Knowledge. Throughout the semester we have been learning how to edit Wikipedia, create articles, and add media to existing articles. I am currently working on my final project. The topic is how to create a more welcoming community on Wikipedia for new users. We are obviously aware of what the Tea House is working on and my project group and I were wondering if we could ask you a few questions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mo5086a (talk • contribs) 03:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Mo5086a. I would be happy to answer your questions about the Teahouse or anything else. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Here are the questions that my group and I wrote: What is your role in the Tea House? How long have you been doing what you’re doing? What is currently being done to create a welcoming community for new members? How do you think that you can improve what is being done? How effective do you think the Tea House is in increasing user retention? Does the Tea House currently have any major projects that its working on? Do you think the current system of just answering users’ questions is enough to generate a higher retention rate? How many welcome messages does the Tea House send in a week? and how many of those users typically stay as editors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mo5086a (talk • contribs) 16:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jim, I was wondering if you have had a chance to answer these questions for my group? Thanks! Mo5086a (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Mo5086a. I have been very busy off Wikipedia on recent days but I have been working on answering your questions in a sandbox page. I should be able to finish later today. Sorry for the delay. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 15:25, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

My answers

Here are my answers to your questions, Mo5086a.

What is your role in the Tea House?

I am one of the most active Teahouse hosts and my role is to assist newer editors by answering questions about how to edit Wikipedia.

How long have you been doing what you’re doing?

I have been editing Wikipedia for almost eight years and began Teahouse work shortly after the Teahouse project began.

What is currently being done to create a welcoming community for new members?

The Teahouse is just one of many things that welcomes new editors to Wikipedia. Welcome messages are placed on talk pages of new editors. We also have a Help Desk which can be used by any editor. We sponsor edit-a-thons and other outreach events. Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention exists to promote and coordinate and encourage these types of efforts across Wikipedia.

How do you think that you can improve what is being done?

I am always trying to improve the clarity and usefulness of the answers I give at the Teahouse and on my talk page. I edit Wikipedia in order to improve the encyclopedia, whether directly by creating and expanding articles, or indirectly by assisting less experienced editors.

How effective do you think the Tea House is in increasing user retention?

I believe that the Teahouse is useful with editor retention but my main goal is improving the encyclopedia. Improving editor retention is an important element of that but many people want to try to write a single Wikipedia article and then they move on. If we can assist them to write one useful encyclopedia article, then the encyclopedia is improved even if that editor moves on to another hobby. We should not want to retain chronic unproductive editors unless their behavior can be transformed, which is rare in my experience. Any editor who strives to become a long term, experienced, productive editor should be given all the friendly help that they need.

Does the Tea House currently have any major projects that its working on?

Just recently, the Teahouse shifted from top posting to bottom posting, and we are now discussing frequency of archiving. The Teahouse is not really a place for "projects". It is a place to provide friendly, helpful answers to the questions that new editors have.

Do you think the current system of just answering users’ questions is enough to generate a higher retention rate?

The Teahouse exists specifically to answer editor's questions and is not intended to be a broader editor retention project, as I see it. If the Teahouse contributes to that broader effort by doing its own job well, then that is another benefit.

How many welcome messages does the Tea House send in a week?

Invitations are sent out by User:HostBot, which is operated by Jtmorgan. He would be a better person to ask about this.

and how many of those users typically stay as editors?

Jtmorgan is also the best person to explain the latest research about the Teahouse and editor retention. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:13, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi Mo5086a. HostBot currently sends out about 200 invites per day to the Teahouse. The Teahouse is also linked from various welcome templates that are delivered manually to new editors by Wikipedians; these sources of inbound traffic is not tracked. The Teahouse has a measurable, positive impact on new editor retention (up to 6 months), as described in this study. Other research on the Teahouse can be found here and in this peer reviewed manuscript ([record http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2441871], PDF). Ping me on my talkpage if you have additional questions. Cheers, J-Mo 18:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, here is the link to the blog post that we made regarding a combination of the answers you provided to us and research that we found and compiled into a blog post. http://wikipedia-knowledge.digitalnewsroom.org/2017/05/09/final-project-the-wikipedia-community-making-a-change/Mo5086a (talk) 17:57, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

To delete or not to delete

Hi Jim It is great to e-meet you. I was encouraged to visit The Teahouse and ask questions from experienced editors, like yourself. I am new to creating pages and in my haste to create my first page over the weekend, I did not disclose my conflict of interest as the lead producer on the film, The Light of The Moon. The article has been flagged with a COI and I wanted to ask, if you would recommend that I add the article to the list of Articles for Deletion (AfD) and then suggest for the film to be created by another editor. As I posted on the film's talk page: "The Light of the Moon," received the 2017 SXSW Audience Award for Narrative Feature Competition.[1][2][3]

References

  1. ^ Evans, Greg (18 March 2017). "SXSW Audiences Give Top Honors To 'Light Of The Moon', 'Baby Driver', 'Dealt'". Deadline.
  2. ^ Kelley, Seth (18 March 2017). "SXSW Announces 2017 Audience Award Winners". Variety.
  3. ^ "'Baby Driver,' 'Mr. Roosevelt' Top SXSW Audience Award Winners". EW.com. 18 March 2017.

As I mentioned, in my haste to create a neutral wiki page about this film, I published the page, instead of "submitting it for creation." I apologize for being overzealous and only reading the guidelines after the COI notice was published. Please note that this was an honest mistake as my intention was to make note of the published/verifiable information about the film, similar to another SXSW film, Mr. Roosevelt (film). Here is The Light of the Moon film's IMdB page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5047336/ Here is an article about the film's start of production: http://variety.com/2016/film/news/stephanie-beatriz-light-of-the-moon-1201789326/ And here are reviews from The Hollywood Reporter: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/light-moon-review-986951 and Variety: http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews/sxsw-film-review-the-light-of-the-moon-1202007604/, which I wanted to cite in the article in order to prove the article's worthiness. Please let me know whether I should draft an article and "submit it for creation" and request for the existing page to be deleted. Moreover, would you advise that the title for the article read: "The Light of the Moon" or even "The Light of the Moon (film)" Your help in the matter is much appreciated. Thank YOU! Carlo at Stedfast Productions (talk) 14:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Carlo at Stedfast Productions. I suggest that you begin by declaring that you are a paid editor. I recommend that you do so on your (now blank) user page. Simply click the red link and make a statement and save the page. Please also study our notability guideline for films. I would not suggest that you nominate the article for deletion. If this film is notable, then Wikipedia should have an article about it. Instead, I suggest that you post these references and anything else that is published as the film gains attention, on the talk page for the article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Carlo at Stedfast Productions, I read the Hollywood Reporter and Variety reviews, and in my opinion, they are sufficient to establish notability. Let me know if anyone tries to delete the article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:37, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, Jim, and for taking the time to read the two articles. Much appreciated! I can definitely let you know if the article is placed on a AfD list. While I am the lead producer on the film from Stedfast Productions, I have not actually been paid to create this wiki page. However, my main concern is that the current page has the template that says a major contributor is closely connected to the project. Is there a way to take down this template, please? i.e. if I suggest that this page be created again by a volunteer editor? Thanks for adjudging the Vareity and THR articles to be sufficient to establish notoriety. I just hope that the COI template can be removed soon, so that people don't mistake the article as an advertorial from the producers of this film, especially since there are films like Mr. Roosevelt (film) that are very similar to The Light of The Moon. Thanks again and looking forward to hearing from you. Carlo at Stedfast Productions (talk) 04:30, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Carlo at Stedfast Productions, if you are the producer then you have an obvious and glaring financial self interest in promoting the film and uninvolved editors will readily see that you should comply with WP:PAID immediately. Please do so in your very next edits. You cannot remove the COI tag since it is true and you created the article as an advertorial. Please stop comparing the article you created to another article that you perceive as similar. Experienced editors judge each article on its own merits without comparing them with other new articles. If that other article has problems, then it should either be improved or deleted on its own merits.
Instead, propose suggested improvements and references on Talk:The Light of The Moon.Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:02, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks for this advice, Jim. It is much appreciated. I will add WP:PAID to my user page now. And I will refrain from comparing the two pages as I can understand why pages should be adjudged on their own merits. Thank you for continuing to share your insights and experiences on Wikipedia. It is much appreciated and I look forward to continuing our conversation. Cheers! Carlo at Stedfast Productions (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Well, hey, I think Experienced editors judge each article on its own merits without comparing them with other new articles is a bit of an overstatement, and User:Carlo at Stedfast Productions you don't need to go over the top with promising not to make comparisons. If you're really experienced in some field then you have internalized standards from the many examples you have learned from, and you may not feel the need to make explicit comparisons. Of course comparisons to other articles like Mr. Roosevelt (film) can be useful in communicating with others, novices or experts. It is very helpful to explicitly consider other articles as models when developing a new one, and it facilitates discussion to state what your models are. Cullen328's point still stands, that just because one article exists one way doesn't mean that another article has to be done the same. Sometimes that basic point has to be stated, and even overstated, just to get the idea across and stop silly tirades from going on and on. That's my two cents; I think Cullen328 doesn't mind my commenting here, so I feel free to offer up this brilliant observation. :) Now maybe I will ramble on about Mr. Roosevelt (film) at Talk:The Light of the Moon, or maybe i'll even add something to the article itself. --doncram 19:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Re: Would the proper use of electronic yellow pages entries be a violation of policy? Reply

Thank you for your recent reply: Welcome to the Teahouse, StephenTS42. I suggest that you limit yourself to a list of notable places of worship that already have Wikipedia articles about them. Such a list should be of places that are of historical or architectural interest. Listing every one is by definition a directory.
-- I agree that some, but not all, places of worship (in Nowalk) have Wikipedia articles about them, and some, but not all, have, or may have, historical or architectural interest. So how, or by what criteria within Wikipedia limits listing them from being included solely based on what you have suggested? I thought Notability guidelines do not apply to content within an article, or am I understanding that wrong? I'm not trying to start an argument or debate, I'm trying to learn. For example, there are others sections containing lists within the same article that contain people, places or things that have no Wikipedia articles, yet they remain. Please be patient with me as I do not understand. Thank you for your time!——→StephenTS42 (talk) 20:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, StephenTS42. The relevant policy is WP:NOT, specifically WP:NOTDIRECTORY item #7. If your source is a yellow pages directory and you just list what that directory lists, then you have recreated the directory, which is contrary to policy. We do not want indiscriminate lists of every X whether it is places of worship or pizzerias. If a place of worship has a Wikipedia article, then it may well deserve a mention in the city article. If a reliable newspaper or magazine published a detailed prose article about "Our city's ten most historic places of worship", then perhaps that might justify mentioning those that do not yet have Wikipedia articles, especially if those places of worship are discussed in other reliable sources. But a yellow pages listing by itself simply does not justify inclusion, in my opinion. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:46, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
If there are other parts of that article, or any other article, that also violate WP:NOTDIRECTORY, then that content should also be removed. A quick glance shows that the "Attractions" section should also be trimmed significantly, in my opinion. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:50, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
@Cullen328: I agree and I thank you for your time! If you ever need a favor from me, please ask!——→StephenTS42 (talk) 00:39, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Draft talk:Jonna Mannion

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Adding references and png/jpg files

Greetings, I am quite new to editing on Wikipedia. I write about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELKO_field where the last two references are not appearing properly. Could you kindly advise as to what I may be doing wrong and how to correct it.

Also it would also help if you could give me a quick way to add png/jpg files to the page with control on placement and size.

Thank you, Dharam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dharam Vir Ahluwalia (talk • contribs) 06:40, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Dharam Vir Ahluwalia. Sorry to be slow to respond. I have been very busy with work in recent days. I do not see any problem with how your references are formatted. However, I do have a problem with a sentence "Many of the details may be found in the following references:" followed by 21 references. Wikipedia articles are not reading lists. If you provide a reference, it should be in support of specific encyclopedic prose that you have written. So, I suggest that you expand the article by summarizing what those references say. If some of them have little or nothing to contribute to the article, they should not be in the article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:43, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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Name

Hi, this is totally random, but enjoy this message, because I only send it to people who's name is Cullen also. VTnav (talk) 22:47, 23 May 2017 (UTC)VTnav

Hey, VTnav. Thanks for that randomness. Here is a true, but narrow, story about my user name. His buddies used to call my grandfather "Cullen", which was his middle name. He died of a heart attack in the back seat of a taxi cab in Detroit shortly before I was born. His name has been kept alive for four generations, most currently in the username of a highly active Wikipedia editor, me. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you - but I am not au fait with the tea house

I had, on "My alerts" news that you had left a message for me AT THE WIKIPEDIA TEAHOUSE. I am sorry if I have not passed on thanks, but I am not au fait Wikipedia: Wikipedia Teahouse, so I shall look forward to finding out how to find out information there.M~any thanks in advance for co-operation here, Vorbee (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Vorbee. That message about the Teahouse was left on your talk page by a friendly bot, and I have agreed to let my name be signed to such messages since I am very active at the Teahouse. The purpose of the Teahouse is to provide a friendly place for new editors to ask questions about how to edit Wikipedia, and for experienced editors to provide helpful answers. If you have any such questions, please visit the Teahouse at any time. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:55, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi

Hi my name is Danni, I have a few wuestions: What is Wikipedia vandalism? How do I join Childrens Literature? What are userboxes and how do I get them?

Thanks Danni Heaven (talk) 20:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC) Danni Heaven (talk) 20:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Danni Heaven. Vandalism is a deliberate attempt to damage the encyclopedia, which includes deliberately adding false information, nonsense, obscenities or gross personal attacks. Please read Wikipedia:Vandalism for complete details.
Please add your signature at Wikipedia:WikiProject Children's literature#Participants to get involved. Please be aware that many specialized Wikiprojects are pretty inactive although some are flourishing.
Please read Wikipedia: Userboxes for more information. Adding userboxes is fine but always remember that improving the encyclopedia is always our #1 priority. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:47, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

How would I add a userbox? Danni Heaven (talk) 10:46, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Young users

I am rather concerned about the amount of socialising and personal details these two young users are putting on their respective pages User:Danni Heaven and User:Iris Medallion could you take a look and advise please. Theroadislong (talk) 11:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for expressing concern, Theroadislong, which I share after reading their user pages a few hours ago. Please pay attention to our concerns, Danni Heaven and Iris Medallion. Please read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors and be cautious about revealing too much personal information. I know that I reveal a lot, but I am an experienced adult. Just be cautious, please. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:26, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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Deconflicting

Tkank you. I had a little issue since there is no New Section at the top of this page. So, I used the last one as a template.

I wish to add that there is a plenty of controversy in philosophical arena. Simply by listing all of the subjective opinions will generate confusing articles.

I would, therefore suggest separate pages to sort out the cacophony of views. Otherwise, the quality of an article will be very poor.

Do we have tools to deconflict confronting such scenarios?

Thank you. Enjoy the day,Damir Ibrisimovic (talk) 05:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Damir Ibrisimovic. I am sorry, but we treat articles about philosophy exactly the same as we treat articles about any other topic. One of our core content policies is the Neutral point of view, and its first sentence says:
"All encyclopedic content on Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic."
This policy is firmly established and is not negotiable. Good writers can create articles that comply with this policy, even when dealing with highly controversial topics. Many such articles are not at all poor, and have reached "Good article" and "Featured article" status. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:10, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Damir Ibrisimovic (talk) 06:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction to halt deletion on Donald Yates page

Jim,

Thanks for your help on the Yates page. I will be adding a revised, shortened publications list later this week once I learn how to do that.

I worked in journalism for 41 years with most work in editing, but learning new systems takes a bit of time.

And thank you for your encouraging welcome to the Teahouse. Not certain how much "about me" you folk want in my introduction, but I'll give it a shot.Nightdesk (talk) 00:03, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome, Nightdesk. Your userpage should describe you and your interests as a Wikipedia editor. It should not look like a LinkedIn page. Feel free to ask questions here or at the Teahouse at any time. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:30, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Updates at San Francisco-based Tides (organization)

Hello, Jim! As a member of WikiProject California, you might be interested in this edit request at San Francisco-based Tides (organization). I'm new to Wikipedia and an editor has assisted with part of my edit request to update the introduction and infobox (I declared my COI on at Talk:Tides (organization)), but there are still some updates that are needed. Any help or insight is appreciated. Thank you, RD at Tides (talk) 20:41, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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Creating new English page based on non-English Wikipedia page

Jim,

I googled Vlokia ater (a plant) and found a good article in the German Wikipedia. Google Translate made a decent translation, at least one I understood. This specie was described and accepted rather recently. In fact, a newer specie in the same genus has been described and accepted. Since the German article is rather short, I thought I would create an equivalent article for the English Wikipedia as my first new article. I understand requesting a Wikipedia translation is much better. I guess I would create three stub articles: Vlokia, Vlokia atar (requesting a translation:

), and Vlokia montana. There are already links to Vlokia from other English articles so they would not be orphans.

Do I understand the process enough to proceed? Stan P.S. I had an awful time submitting my question. I was kicked out of the submittal page numerous times. User-duck (talk) 01:18, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello User-duck. You simply cannot rely on the accuracy of Google Translate or any machine translation program. It is highly likely that there will be some errors that creep in. If you translate an article from German, you should either speak passable German or collaborate with a German speaking editor. You are responsible for accuracy.
As for creating stub articles, please be aware that "A stub is an article deemed too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject." In 2017, I really do not think that creating stub articles is a good idea. Instead, write new articles that provide at least a basic level of encyclopedic coverage. I have never once written a stub in eight years as an editor, and do not intend to start now.
I do not understand your difficulty submitting a question. You simply click "New section " at the top of the page, type your question, and save it. If there is something that I do not understand, please let me know. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

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A little conflict

I have a little conflict on the article on Android (Operating system).

I think the opening sentence should note that it is open source, but someone also disagrees.

Take a look [1].

Thanks. New account 2 (talk) 00:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Article Review for draft Anita Yadav query

Hi Jim How can i get my article ( i.e. Draft: Anita Yadav) reviewed fast so that it is published as soon as possible. Am on a deadline please.

Thankyou Buzz.media (talk) 12:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Buzz.media. This person definitely appears notable. However, I have some concerns about your username. It seems to violate Wikipedia:Username policy as a username implying shared use. Please change it and please comply with the mandatory disclosure requirements regarding paid editing. Once you have done so, I will clean up the draft article and move it to the encyclopedia. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:49, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey Jim! Thankyou for your time and reply. I have requested for a new username change as frany90. My name is fran. And this article is not paid. Am drafted this article on a request of a friend. Is there anything more i need to do? I'm new to wikipedia so am not totally aware of its details. Thanks Frany90 (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

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