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Opinion

hi, a discussion has been opened to delete some categories about churches among them catholic and orthodox I would like to have your opinion here Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 January 21--Warairarepano&Guaicaipuro (talk) 12:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello JTtheOG,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 816 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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Xu Yang (speed skater)

Hello JTtheOG. Thanks for reviewing of my first article in EN:WP, although I have made some other edits here and created some redirects and a few categories. The Xu Yang -article, can you tell me if it was an okay start for an article in this wikipedia-language ? I am mostly active on NO:WP (Norwegian bokmål-riksmål language wikipedia). PS. I am not hundred percent sure if I got the name of this person correct as per chinesian way of naming standards for first and last name. Best regards Migrant (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Willace Bowen

My computer hung while I was creating a redirect for this. I've tried twice to do the redirect. It is necessary because this historically significant Canadian had multiple name spellings, but standardized on the one in the redirect. I thought I was now not autopatrolled and would have been allowed to complete a redirect. The move feature was disabled for some reason. -- Westendgirl (talk) 01:28, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Westendgirl: Were you able to create it? And I thought someone had mistakenly patrolled it without tagging it; that's my bad. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, though, I'll be on the lookout for that next time. :) JTtheOG (talk) 01:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thanks for your help on Burnaby Municipal Green Party!

Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:17, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikiproject!

Hello, JTtheOG! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a new WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:19, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Airbag (Spanish band)

Hello. I have been working on Draft:Airbag (Spanish band). I added Spanish sources, whose language I barely understand. Maybe you can help me expand the draft, which is still pending a review. --George Ho (talk) 18:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review - newsletter No.3

Hello JTtheOG,

Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 816 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.

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Islamway.net

speedy deletion contested! Talk:Islamway.net. Albicelestes (talk) 21:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Penryn RFC page

Hi JTtheOG I notice that you have reviewed a number of the rugby union club pages I created - thank you. I have a query regarding another page I created, Penryn RFC, which is not appearing on any Google searches (although an image I used for the page does). I was wondering if you had any idea why this is the case? Thanks. Jgjsmith006 (talk) 20:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jgjsmith006: Hi! Great job on the articles. I know there is a technical reason regarding web crawlers and indexing, but I don't know enough on the subject to explain it correctly to someone else. It may have just been that it hasn't been patrolled until just now. Let me know if it is not solved, because I have been curious about this issue for awhile, too. Happy editing! JTtheOG (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just saw that the page is now reviewed. Thanks JTtheOG and keep up the good work. Jgjsmith006 (talk) 14:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing "Ligier JS1"

Hello JTtheOG. Thank you for reviewing the page above. That's just the second page that I've created directly without submitting for prior approval since I started editing more actively and I'm interested in your feedback.

Kumboloi (talk) 03:37, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OhioBasketball

Why did you nominate my article for a speedy deletion? That makes no sense. I gave credit to the athlete. So, stay off my page. Thank you. Also stop messing up peoples articles, they put hard work into them.

@OhioBasketball: Hey. I nominated your article because he does not meet the general notability guideline set by Wikipedia. If you want to make an article on someone, you have to make sure he/she has received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." If they have not, they are not notable enough to have an article about them. Unless you can cite multiple sources online to confirm this player's notability, this article will be deleted. Especially for a player who has not reached the college level yet, sources are essential to establish their notability since they have not yet proven themselves at a higher level. Look at someone like LaMelo Ball. Since he's only a high school player, he has 36 sources from sites such as ESPN, Sports Illustrated, CBS Sports, The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, etc. JTtheOG (talk) 04:25, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AFD of interest

You are a recent editor of the newly created Andrew Dakich. Please feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Dakich.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Wells

Hey! I wanted to know if you could help me out with an article I came across while patrolling the recent changes page. I'm not familiar with American Football at all; I tried to gather as much knowledge from what I'd heard of the sport and try and figure things out myself but failed eventually and had to search up Wikipedia: WikiProject American football as a final resort. The page is I wanted help with is Jonathan Wells (American football). I reached out to you because there were some suspicious changes to the numbers under the "rushing statistics" table made by an IP and I was unable to cross-check the source myself and revert if needed. The "rushing statistics" table on the page has statistics of games from 1998-2001 while the NFL player stats shows statistics from 2002-2005. Is that maybe because the the info is out-dated? Hope to see a reply soon! Jiten Dhandha • talk • contributions • 17:42, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jiten Dhandha: Hi! The rushing stats table on the Wells page details his rushing statistics during his college career at Ohio State University, which spanned from 1998-2001. He started playing professional football in 2002, where he recorded 1167 yards between 2002-2005. I do see how it can be confusing, because there's a high school career section, followed by a college career section, and then it immediately jumps to his post-football career. If you wanted to help the page, I'd suggest adding a section with details on his pro career with the Houston Texans and Indianapolis Colts, complete with sources. JTtheOG (talk) 22:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply! This is slighlty embarrassing for me because I dont know how I could've missed the big heading: "College career" (because I did miss it). I'll see if I can get around to doing some research before updating the pages. Cheers! Jiten Dhandha • talk • contributions • 22:33, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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2017 American Athletic Conference

Can you take a look at Draft:2017 American Athletic Conference football season? Thanks. --Ostealthy (talk) 23:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4

Hello JTtheOG,

Since rolling out the right in November, just 6 months ago, we now have 816 reviewers, but the backlog is still mysteriously growing fast. If every reviewer did just 55 reviews, the 22,000 backlog would be gone, in a flash, schwoop, just like that!

But do remember: Rather than speed, quality and depth of patrolling and the use of correct CSD criteria are essential to good reviewing. Do not over-tag. Make use of the message feature to let the creator know about your maintenance tags. See the tutorial again HERE. Get help HERE.

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Can you help verify translations of articles from Spanish

Hello JTtheOG,

Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from Spanish to English Wikipedia?

File:Language icon.svg

This would involve evaluating a translated article on the English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original Spanish article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:

There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including Spanish, using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from Spanish. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.

If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:

All you have to do, is compare the English article to the Spanish article, and mark it "Pass" or "Fail" (templates {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} may be useful). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then marking it "Pass", that's even better, but it isn't required.)

If you can help, please let me know. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elinruby (talk • contribs) 07:47, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deprod: Jef Miles

Hello, I have deprodded Jef Miles, as the article has already been prodded and deprodded and it therefore cannot be prodded again. Please feel free to open an AfD if you still wish to pursue deletion. Thanks, —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sharon Prayer Fellowship and Ministries

Hi, Though you had reviewed Sharon Prayer Fellowship and Ministries, some other user kept a tag for speedy deletion and an other user deleted it. Request you to look into and see the possibility of revival.Meher Mansion (talk) 02:50, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you patrol/review these articles

Hi, I saw that you were the one of the most frequent patrollers this year. I hope this is not too much bother to ask you. Would it be possible for you to patrol these articles that I've recently created and which still haven't been patrolled (a week later)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Zak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neta_Alchimister

Thanks a lot! Avaya1 (talk) 19:29, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! Avaya1 (talk) 21:48, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to help! JTtheOG (talk) 01:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Rentier. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Danny Collinge, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Rentier (talk) 19:34, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unreviewed because it was deprodded, I didn't know that this causes a message to be posted :) Rentier (talk) 19:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MonkeyKingdom

Please review Jacklet Atuhaire. Thanx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MonkeyKingdom (talk • contribs) 12:50, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing the page of Film censorship in China

Hello there. Dumb question. What does your reviewing mean? Would it be rated higher on the Importance scale or start class? Thanks!Supermann (talk) 18:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello JTtheOG, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
  • Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.

Technology update:

  • Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Wikipedia:Page Curation/Suggested improvements
  • The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:

General project update:

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello JTtheOG, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 16,991 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.

Technology update:

  • Rentier has created a NPP browser in WMF Labs that allows you to search new unreviewed pages using keywords and categories.

General project update:

  • The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working with the community to implement the autoconfirmed article creation trial. The trial is currently set to start on 7 September 2017, pending final approval of the technical features.
  • Please remember to focus on the quality of review: correct tagging of articles and not tagbombing are important. Searching for potential copyright violations is also important, and it can be aided by Earwig's Copyvio Detector, which can be added to your toolbar for ease of use with this user script.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

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Thanks

Hey man, thanks for the review on the Mangok Mathiang article. It felt so ignored for so long that I almost thought it was being ignored on purpose! – AGreatPhoenixSunsFan (talk) 04:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AGreatPhoenixSunsFan: No problem; sometimes it definitely feels like that with my articles! I guess bunches of articles just slip through the cracks for a few weeks since we don't have enough new page reviewers. Good job on the page though! Go Lakers... JTtheOG (talk) 04:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, a Lakers fan, I see. Okay... hopefully Bernie Sanders runs for President again in 2020 (and wins this time around). – AGreatPhoenixSunsFan (talk) 04:56, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coffee from Colombia

Hi – just to say that you've PRODded Coffee from Colombia... you might want to take a look at all the other albums by the same singer, which have all been created by the same editor... I'm not sure any of them pass WP:NALBUMS either, unless there are reliable sources in Azeri. Richard3120 (talk) 15:37, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A cupcake for you!

Thanks a lot for reviewing the page of Ravindra Ghooi Abhijeet Safai (talk) 05:18, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello JTtheOG, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 14304 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
  • Currently there are 532 pages in the backlog that were created by non-autoconfirmed users before WP:ACTRIAL. The NPP project is undertaking a drive to clear these pages from the backlog before they hit the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing a few today!

Technology update:

  • The Wikimedia Foundation is currently working on creating a new filter for page curation that will allow new page patrollers to filter by extended confirmed status. For more information see: T175225

General project update:

  • On 14 September 2017 the English Wikipedia began the autoconfirmed article creation trial. For a six month period, creation of articles in the mainspace of the English Wikipedia will be restricted to users with autoconfirmed status. New users who attempt article creation will now be redirected to a newly designed landing page.
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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello JTtheOG, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12,878 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
  • We have successfully cleared the backlog of pages created by non-confirmed accounts before ACTRIAL. Thank you to everyone who participated in that drive.

Technology update:

  • Primefac has created a script that will assist in requesting revision deletion for copyright violations that are often found in new pages. For more information see User:Primefac/revdel.

General project update:

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A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For reviewing every single one of the new Keifuku Electric Railroad pages I created yesterday, thank you! RubenSchade (talk) 01:50, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Barnstar for you!

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! Keep up the good work! — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 05:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I'd suggest trying out the Page Curation tools, which makes reviewing new pages that much simpler. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 05:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol thanks you.

The New Page Reviewer's Gold Award

With nearly nine thousand reviewed articles in the last year, you are part of the backbone of NPP. Thank you very much for your service! (sorry for sending this so soon after giving you the barnstar, but I thought that you deserved this as well) — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 21:11, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Insertcleverphrasehere: Wow!! I had no idea I was anywhere near the Top 5! Anyways, thank you for the recognition. I'm glad to do what I can. :) JTtheOG (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red World Contest

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!


Unreviewed a page

Hello, I have unreviewed a page I wrote. It is a page, John N. McLaughlin. Could you please check it? Thank you in advance AntonyZ (talk) 20:30, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Vanamonde93. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, María Guðmundsdóttir (filmmaker), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Vanamonde (talk) 11:48, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2017 election voter message

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello JTtheOG, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12713 pages. Please consider reviewing even just a few pages each day! If everyone helps out, it will really put a dent in the backlog.
  • Currently the backlog stretches back to March and some pages in the backlog have passed the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing some of them!

Outreach and Invitations:

  • If you know other editors with a good understanding of Wikipedia policy, invite them to join NPP by dropping the invitation template on their talk page with: {{subst:NPR invite}}. Adding more qualified reviewers will help with keeping the backlog manageable.

New Year New Page Review Drive

  • A backlog drive is planned for the start of the year, beginning on January 1st and running until the end of the month. Unique prizes will be given in tiers for both the total number of reviews made, as well as the longest 'streak' maintained.
  • Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.

General project update:

  • ACTRIAL has resulted in a significant increase in the quality of new submissions, with noticeably fewer CSD, PROD, and BLPPROD candidates in the new page feed. However, the majority of the backlog still dates back to before ACTRIAL started, so consider reviewing articles from the middle or back of the backlog.
  • The NPP Browser can help you quickly find articles with topics that you prefer to review from within the backlog.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

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Can i have access to the data that was deleted

for my pages "Rose Gold Necklace" and "No Apologies (slim dias song)

I want the source code behind it for my website wiki Muniro (talk) 04:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Years new page backlog drive

Hello JTtheOG, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Announcing the NPP New Year Backlog Drive!

We have done amazing work so far in December to reduce the New Pages Feed backlog by over 3000 articles! Now is the time to capitalise on our momentum and help eliminate the backlog!

The backlog drive will begin on January 1st and run until January 29th. Prize tiers and other info can be found HERE.

Awards will be given in tiers in two categories:

  • The total number of reviews completed for the month.
  • The minimum weekly total maintained for all four weeks of the backlog drive.

NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

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