User talk:JarrahTree/Archive 41
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Wheatbelt railway lines of Western Australia =[edit]
I'm happy to agree that the article might be woefully inadequate and need a complete re-write, but this edit makes it slightly more informative. If nothing else, it captures the new reference details, until such time as a complete re-write can be done. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:12, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Mingenew etc[edit]
Well-spotted, thanks. I see someone else has now fixed the dupe. I am still in the thick of a thesis, but sometimes subjects leap out at me and beg to be written ;-) Grant | Talk 08:17, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
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translate[edit]
province/states (provinsi/negara bagian) - governor (gubernur) and city (kota) - mayor (walikota). nah regency (kabupaten) - ? (bupati). what is the bupati means mayor? Akuindo (talk) 13:48, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Ok. the bupati means regent (only in indonesia). the village in the US and philippines is never helded by regent then by mayor (already). Akuindo (talk) 09:09, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Re: weird[edit]
«== weird ==Not sure why you wanted to paint the talk page tags blue in your edit at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Mexican_saints - it would be much more helpful to do the full assess - as it is you have left ?? in the importance.... Also I rarely ever see any of my talk page editing added or amended. (most eds are not the slightest interested in maintaining project tags) . The 'List' project tag in effect becomes redundant if you have put 'list' as the class in the other projects. I could go on at length, but... If indeed you are interested in project tagging, or in assessing - good luck to you - there is no support for the activity (not that I have ever seen). satusuro 13:08, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Even weirder - saints - is a stand alone project - and by extension should have only the tag for that project at project pages - so a bit mystified as to why biography creeps in there... ? satusuro 13:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)»
- Hello, I do not think it is possible to guess what effects any assessment will have in the future and that it is better to leave importance blank for subjects I know relatively little about. (Making this a requirement would mean fewer articles assessed since each one would take longer.) Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists#Assessment has a table of articles belonging to the project which presumably depends on the WP:Lists banner being present in those articles. I added WPBIO as saints are people and am not aware the scope of WP:Saints has any implications for any other projects which might be added. Adding relevant projects has the effect of increasing the number of editors who might become aware of an article and then perhaps decide to edit it.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 16:04, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
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Mining[edit]
I haven't edited much in mining articles in the last few years due to time constraints. I'm just waiting for my flight back to Perth from Sydney now. Could you be a bit more specific as to what you would like me to look at and I will check it out when I get back to the Pilbara tomorrow? See you, Calistemon (talk) 04:37, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- I had a look through the related templates and articles and all pretty much seems to be in order, except for State Batteries in Western Australia which is in Category:Gold mines in Western Australia but would rather belong in a as yet non-existing Category:Gold mining in Western Australia, with Gold mining in Western Australia as its parent article. Alternativly it could just go into Category:Gold mining in Australia. Is this what you have been taking about? Calistemon (talk) 03:03, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
close - very close satusuro 06:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Indonesian task force[edit]
Hallo SatuSuro, I have made a nomination to make an Indonesian task force for football. The reason for it is to gather some active wikipedia users to improve the articles related to Indonesian football such as competitions, clubs, players and other related articles. The link for the nomination is here. As you have contributed before for Indonesian football articles, I hope you can contribute to the discussions. Thank you. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 02:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- There are other discussions in here and here. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 02:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for your reply. Sadly I agree with you with all the problems that you mentioned on my talk page regarding Indonesian football articles, well I just hope that maybe starting now the articles could be improved and maintained with Wikipedia standards by some active users, its gonna be though and tedious but it have to start somehow. Its a pity though that you dont have the time to be a part of the task force. Anyway looking forward for you future contributions if you have the time to do it and I really appreciate your reply to me. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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changes[edit]
- I do not agree with some of the changes you making, which disrupt what I described I was doing and what I am doing matches landform categorization in many countries; there is no valid reason for Indonesia to be an exception. Hmains (talk) 01:53, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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Look forward to seeing you in the new year; and Garratt Road Bridge should hopefully be ready soon - Cheers, Evad37 [talk] 02:38, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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2015[edit]
Happy New Year Dan arndt (talk) 16:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Mataram Sultanate[edit]
You're right, Mataram Sultanate article although quite important for Javanese and Indonesian history has been neglected for too long. Let's see what we can do to improve, rewrite and adding desperately needed references and citations. Although my core interest on Indonesian history was mainly on Hindu-Buddhist period spanned from Tarumanagara to Majapahit (4th to 15th century), let's see what I can do. Selamat Tahun Baru 2015ǃ. Gunkarta talk 04:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, my silence sometimes means I'm agree with you (and I expecting you to fix it), or I'm busy doing something else. Go ahead, please do what you think is right, I don't mind, since you already gave the reasons. Gunkarta talk 13:24, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
About Encyclopaedia Britannica as a reference, I think since we do not have better net-base references (yet), we still can use it. Better having one than not having any reference at all. Maybe you could help me digging up the net in searching for Mataram Sultanate materials for citation and refs. I just dig my book collections and rediscovered R. Soekmono's Pengantar Sejarah Kebudayaan Indonesia 3 (Zaman Madya), a popular textbook that write about Indonesian history focused on Islamic kingdoms/sultanates period after Majapahit and prior to colonial Dutch East Indies. Gunkarta talk 13:45, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
2015 already[edit]
Hi SatiSuro. No frills - just a quiet ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015 and I hope you’ll continue to be around on Wikipedia for a long time to come.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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Indonesian club categories[edit]
Hi, although I dont edit categories quite a lot, I will try to keep it in mind to have categories for clubs more informative. Thanks for the notice and happy new year also. MbahGondrong (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
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I expect you already know that one should NEVER let the facts get in the way of a good story? Pdfpdf (talk) 11:56, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome[edit]
Thank you for welcoming me and thanks for the virtual cookies :) Debtang1019 (talk) 06:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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Overlinked/sea of blue and the bleeding obvious[edit]
Hi, I dont quite agree the article in question have flagcruft, as there are no flags there, but maybe overlinking is violated (2014 season part of the table). Other than that, it seems to have the same format, template and content with most european league season articles. MbahGondrong (talk) 00:50, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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Is has been done[edit]
The template, as you have noticed. I've requested tagging help from Yobot, but feel free go crazy with the tagging after the initial run! :) jonkerz ♠talk 15:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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I think is it right place[edit]
There is also article about Sundanese people that stated etymology which also about the word Sunda, I think there is also right.. because it is about etymology "why those people to be called Javanese?" "why those peoples called Sundanese?" the word Javanese is of "Java - nese" which mean "people of Java" same case as the Sundanese from "Sunda - nese" which mean "people of Sunda"... so I think, why not?
Ah yes about O-Javanese, if you look at Indonesian and Javanese version, there is no citation there... but still acceptable, in English wikipedia, I found so many citation that written in Bahasa and Javanese, but still acceptable, if you're Bahasa speaker, maybe you can help by translate it because my English are not "perfect"...
regard...Mufidkce (talk) 08:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Categories, the purposes and deletion thereof[edit]
Re this:
CFD processes do not allow for or have any mechanism for category creators to be notified of Xfd processes
Doesn't CFD include placing a notice on the cat and/or talk page? If you are sufficiently interested in the category (eg because you created or edited it), wouldn't it be on your watchlist? In which you'd see the notice.I did not create the categories to have the senses of what is being read into the created categories.... most of the dialogue above somewhat 'over-interpetating' the original intention.
There's a well-documented solution to that: "it is helpful – to both readers and editors – to include a description of the category, indicating what pages it should contain, ... The category description should make direct statements about the criteria by which pages should be selected for inclusion in (or exclusion from) the category. ... Do not leave future editors to guess about what or who should be included ...
Alas, such descriptions are not often provided.
No doubt we can have a civilised discussion about these tomorrow ... Mitch Ames (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
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