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Mz7 (talk) 19:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Undid revision to Kisan Parade

Dear Kashmorwiki, your suggestion has been incorporated. However deletion of the entire sentence will amount to manipulation of fact since the sources have been properly cited. If you still have an objection then message me and we can discuss it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apsngh (talk • contribs) 12:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Kashmorwiki. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
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If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Beeblebrox (talk) 21:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

 Administrator note Note that this is for one month, on a trial basis, see my remarks at the request page. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2021 Uttarakhand glacial outburst flood

On 9 February 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2021 Uttarakhand glacial outburst flood, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 05:31, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For your tireless effort to make this platform safe from the vandals and also protecting articles related Indian Football and Footballers. Bestwishes Poppified talk 12:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou @Poppified: Lets together fight for Indian football. Cheers Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 13:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Canvassing for support at in an AFD discussion

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rehana Fathima (2nd nomination). While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. -- Toddy1 (talk) 14:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Toddy1, I clearly know what is canvassing and have never said anyone to vote in favour of my opinion. I left message to two users who already expeessed their concern with the notability of subject. Then I thought that it would be better if have users from Kerala participating in the discsussion is better. So I notified Poppified (talk · contribs), who is the only active Keralite I know here. I just told everybody to tell your opinion amd did not meant to canvass. Believe me or not I just act according to good faith. Please tell me if you think I have done something wrong as this is the first time I am being accused of canvassing.Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 18:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Though the notifications reflected a neutral point of view, their distribution appears to have been selectively sent to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Toddy1, In the previous AFD, four users including an IP, who voted as keep is either blocked for Sockpuppetry or is suspected socks. So its sure that the consensus was reached not in a proper way. Ritabharidevi (talk · contribs) is the main sock that voted first to keep by giving a brief note which might have prompted other users also to vote keep after seeing that. Harryishere (talk · contribs) is a sock of Ritabharidevi and Ghiblifanatic (talk · contribs) is a suspected socket with only one edit in this AFD. Another IP also voted as weak keep inorder to avoid any doubts. Sahirshah (talk · contribs) might be a user with my same opinion and I agree with that. But Poppified (talk · contribs) is an uninvolved user in the previous AFD. So pleased dont accuse me of me canvassing him also. So let me clarify my action. What I did was clearly in good faith and had no intention of canvassing Sahirsha (talk · contribs) . I just want this AFD to be done in a correct manner Regards. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 01:54, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Carl Wilhelm Scheele

Short description says he is britisch? --10:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Stone (talk · contribs) you please explain me what you meant? Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 10:50, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

You added in edit [1] the short description|British Chemist who discovered oxygen and this is wrong in my view. Can you please change the short description.--Stone (talk) 08:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Stone (talk · contribs), if you think I have added wrong information, you can just revert that or make necessary changes. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 08:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Why do you think Carl Wilhelm Scheele is a britisch chemist? You added it and you should correct it, or state why it is correct in your thinking. A ref for it would be also appreciated. --Stone (talk)

Stone (talk · contribs), Yesterday, I read about some scientists who had some major discoveries in a book and just had a look at their wikipedia.l articles. This aricle did not had a short description, so I just added. That was my only intention and nothing else. I actually wanted to add German-Swedish, but it happened by mistake. Anyway I had corrected it as this was a definite mistake from my side. Thankyou for informing and will be aware not to repeat such silly mistakes next time. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Woah! You joined after me and are ALREADY a Teahouse host, a pending changes reviewer and a rollbacker. Wow! I’m just a normal extended confirmed user not as active as I was last month. Cupper52 (talk) 10:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Cupper52, Thankyou for the appreciation. It always depends on how fast we learn things here. I have seen users with less than 1000 edits getting all the rights you mentioned. If you are vandalism fighter, you will definetly get these also. And I am just a temporary rollbacker. It will expire after a month and I have to reapply. I hope you will also get that soon. By the way, I am welcoming you to join countervandalism unit where we fight against vandalism. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 12:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Interpretive content

Hi there, re: these edits, the Quint reference you included is a film review. It doesn't speak of the overall audience response, so your attempt to summarise that is purely interpretive and doesn't belong in the article. Further, your attempt to "summarise" the India Today review is so closely paraphrased that it is indistinguishable from plagiarism, and would likely constitute a copyright violation. Had you presented it as a direct quotation, this wouldn't have been as egregious a problem. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

You also appear to have stolen the plot description from Filmibeat. Has nobody told you that copying is unethical? DO NOT COPY CONTENT FROM OTHER SOURCES. This is a basic academic concept. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb (talk · contribs), thankyou for your suggestions. Actually, this was the first time I added a review of a film in an article. So its my inexperiece that might have led to this. The movie actually has positive response among audience. So I am requesting you to assume good faith regarding my edits there. We all are learners here, and I I promise I wont repeat this mistake again. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 04:19, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding unreliable sources.

Hi Kichu, I’m the author of Zeyan Shafiq, As you’ve wrote down “Delete” and stated that the sources aren’t reliable, I’d like to discuss them with you. Could you guide me over which source did you think wasn’t sufficient. Because as per to me and other experienced editors the sources mentioned are from reliable sources. I’m writing this just to discuss and debate and learn more about reliable sources. Hums4r (Let's Talk) 21:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Also all the sources are independent articles, did you really check the references before posting the remarks? And i would like to ask are you somehow connected to (Sheikh Asif), (Sardar Nasir Ali), (Thames Infotech) or their sock puppets? Because they’ve been creating fake and new accounts to !vote, and if you’re interested in researching about the topic do let me know I’ll share good research with you which might give you an idea about the notability. Thanks have a good day ahead. Hums4r (Let's Talk) 21:17, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Hums4r, please tell me where did I stated stated that the sources aren’t reliable. And did I say its not notable?. Please go and read my comment carefully. I have never commented like anything you have said here. What I said was the subject does not merit to have its own article. Being covered in the sources does not alone make a person notable. Please go and read WP:NOT. And what I said in my comments are my findings and I dont have to care about your opinion or other users opinion based on their experience. That is just a discussion page and I can comment my findings. Sometimes it may be not accurate or may be correct. And finally, you are just simply accussing me of sockpuppetry without any valid evidence, just beacuse you dont like my opinion in AFD. I have been here for six months and my edits are mainly on Indian related football articles and films. Suppose if I made a wild comment in AFD, that does not make any sense, why are you accussing me as a sock. I hope you know the seriousness regarding accussing of sock. Since you have been here only for one month, I am assuming good faith this time Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 04:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi dear, I didn’t accuse you of sockpuppetry, since there is a gang of people who are doing this i just asked it out from you, i am extremely sorry if it was rude or sounded like an allegation. Moreover i just wanted to discuss about your opinion on the comment you made at AfD nothing else. I want to improve my knowledge only, I wanted to know how doesn’t it meet the requirements even when many experienced editors and admins checked it thoroughly.You have mentioned that it should be deleted because it looks like promotional, can you point out the part which sounded promotional so we both could improve it and i could further refrain from writing anything that would sound promotional. Thanks Hums4r (Let's Talk) 08:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hums4r, please dont be upset. I appreciate your contribution to this platform. I have no objection regarding the sources in the article. I agree that it passes WP:GNG in that respect. What I actually concerns me is that by what merit the subject actually deserves an article. The article contains details like the subject is the founder of some company to promote Esports and has some other things like which in my opinion does not alone make him eligible to have an article for himself. Please dont think that I have any vengetta or anything like that with that person. I had already nominated another article of same type to AFD. Most users voted as keep there. So I discussed this matter my mentor here and he clarified my doubts. He said that only significant coverage is required, no matter what the person actually contributed. So technically, I made a mistake there. That was my assumption. So I will rectify that. Dont worry. And regarding the promotional tone, this was the reason I said it was written for promotion. I will recrify that also. And please feel free to ask anything in my talk page as I always try to respond without hurting anyone. But when I saw you commented the things I havent done, I just lost myself, but found you are just a new user here. So please dont feel bad as we all learn from mistakes and continue with your contrubution to this world of knowledge. Regards 09:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, we all learn, you’re more experienced to me, and I appreciate your suggestions to me. Also I again apologise if anything may have sounded rude. I just wanted to discuss because I felt like it wasn’t promotional at all, because trust me haha i have spent so much time while reading his articles so i made sure every line there every single line is backed by a strong reliable source. Thanks and looking forward to contribute with you. :) much love and respect. Hums4r (Let's Talk) 09:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hums4r (talk · contribs), I have striked through ny comment there as I understood I made a mistake. If any of your article get deleted in future, dont be upset. Indeed learn from mistakes. When I first came here, I did not know anything. My first article was deleted too. But now I have created 40 articles. Because whenever you have any doubt regarding notability or any issues like that, find an experienced user with great helping mentality. Have a great day and happy editing. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Fousiya Mampatta

Hey kashmorwiki, hope you have heard that Fousiya Mampatta has passed away. She didnt have an article, so I create it. Could you help me expanding it. BestWishesPoppified ^talk 12:01, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Sad news for Kerala football. I was also thinking about creating an article for her. Let me have a look at the article. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 12:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	This Barnstar is for your work on article related to Indian Football and Footballers.Also for expanding the article of Fousiya Mampatta.BestWishes-- Poppified talk 18:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Disney James

Kindly give a guidance so as to not delete the page titled Disney James . We have tried to provide maximum references. We shall hereby include the references titled Disney James. Kindly advise. Thanks in advance. Plackiyil (talk) 19:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@Plackiyil:, I already told my opinion in the AFD. I am not in favour of deletion thats why said "Weak Delete". I know this actor and has seen his movies. But here, we need reliable sources to eetablish notability. Unfortunately, I was not able to find anything. Most of the sources you provided are not reliable including IMDB. So if you can show me atleast one source that covers about the actor in depth, there is hope. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 05:28, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hello

what do you mean by joined just 1 day ago? why and how does it matter? I want to know. i’ve been an ip editor earlier and have much more experience then you on afd’s.don’t disrespect anyone.even you’re only 7 months old here. ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 09:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk · contribs), where did I disrespect you actually. Can you show me? I just gave a note to the admin. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:44, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

you are having some issues with me seems so, and it is disrespectful what u r doing. u r telling other people to check my account. u should at first confirm things with me. and what if i do the same to u? if u vote anywhere what if i write the same? won’t u feel disrespected? i will ask u to give the reason for your spurious remarks or remove it. u r new as well but doesn’t mean i will disrepect uh.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 09:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk · contribs), if you accuse me without any valid reasons, it can be callled as disrespect. I agree. I did not accuse you for anything. Did I? I just have a doubt because your account is only one day old and has been used to comment in an AFD discussion where some other new account like yours have been blocked for sockpuppetry. But this may be a coincidence. Dont be so emotional. I dont have any issue with you or anyone. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

And I am jut a normal user. Its the duty of admins to check such suspected cases. Thats why I noticed him. Dont worry. Nothing is going to happen if you are doing everything right. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 10:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

That is what i was trying to say.it is disrespectful if u make remark against someone without any proper proof. also if u check the article for deletion in india country, u will see a lot of good article’s get delete because they don’t get enough reviews so i am just reviewing the articles and giving my comment as an indian, this discussion is very messy so i did not read what other have written or did not read sock puppetry comments. i just check the article references and then search the name on google if it gives enough secondary source as per wp:rs then i will post keep otherwise i will comment delete. u can tell me what is wrong in this article so i can change my vote if u think so but i will ask u to remove that remark on me..ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 10:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I dont want any one to change their vote. And you asked for proof. This may be a coincident. Just a one day old account giving the comment in that AFD. Thats what made me cautious. And you said you havent read anything in that AFD. That not the proper way to do it. It has been found that that article was created for promotional purpose. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 10:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh is it. i read that from the nominator.it looks promotional but i always try to help to keep the article if it could be saved, u can check my history I’m in favour of most pages because my wp:before gave me some results that match basic and gng. and it is written in WP:ATD if an article can be saved by editing it should be edited rather deleted.it was nice discussion with u.if u have any future issue pls contact me before.ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk) 10:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

ImNotAnEntrepreneur (talk · contribs) Did I suspected any other users who voted as keep there. Did I? It only because of a reason that I doubted you. Nothing is going to happen to you if you havent done anything wrong Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 10:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

History of Kerala Blasters FC

Hey Kashmorwiki, thank you for creating the artcle, 'History of Kerala Blasters FC' according to the splitting proposal. As you'd created the article by copying the majority of the content by copying from the current history section of the club's main article, what's your next plan? Is there any plan to reduce the the history section of the main article to shorter form all by yourself or with any assistance?Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 17:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Ken Tony Peter (talk · contribs), its already done. The section had around 57000 bytes. I tried to reduce the least important points from it and made it around 43000 bytes. If we remove more, some important details will be missed from the main article. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 18:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay buddy. I just wanted to ask you that because I thought this would come down as a burden for you all alone. Thanks for your reply and action. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 18:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Do have a look at this policy

Hi! It will be good to familiarise yourself with WP:canvass. In the AFD when you wanted to mention a user:bearcat, you could have used username so that the editor is not pinged since only their comment was relevant. This is important in places where !votes take place or policy discussions etc.. Sharing since I think you may not be familiar with this. Best! Vikram Vincent 18:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Vincentvikram There was no sneaky intent behind my action. Like you said, I was not familiar with this. Will try to avoid this next time and thankyou for notifying me. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 18:50, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

ARTICLE PUT UP FOR DELETION BY YOU

Hi mate, hope you're having a great day today!

You have recently put up an article about "Mohammad Asrar Rehbar" up for deletion, and I would like to tell you why it would not only be unfair but also very crippling for a young footballer who is working hard every single day to do things honestly and passionately.

First and foremost, under the Wikiproject Football/Professional league guidelines, a fully professional league is defined as one where virtually all adult players are paid a salary and can live on and do not need additional sources of income. It further goes on to say that this salary should be a living wage in the nation where the league is based, and preferably around or above the average or median national wage. The professionalism of the league should also extend to sufficient contact hours, and facilities, equipment, expenses, and other support as necessary to allow the full-time pursuit of the sport. It is pertinent that I tell you in the context of this definition that the player in question, i.e., Mohamed Asrar Rehbar falls into the category of a "professional player", and his team, i.e., Bengaluru United falls into the category of a "professional team'.

Furthermore, I should also tell you, that the I-League 2nd division is part of the I-league football structure, I.e., a competition whose winner gets promoted to play in the I-League. It is a fully professional set up, whose games are broadcasted live on television.

If the logic that is being applied to delete an article posted about Asrar is applied to other cases, then Bengaluru FC Reserves would fail to be called a "professional team", so would ATK reserves who compete in the Calcutta Premier Divison, and so would Kiyan Nassiri, a player whose page you created/edited, and who literally plays at the same tier of Indian football as Asrar does. The examples, of similar cases, would be endless.

In my humble opinion, the article about Mohammad Asrar Rehbar does not violate any guidelines laid down by Wikipedia, and taking it down would be to deprive him of his right to be peacefully conducting his own business. Your Wikipedia page is the first thing people look for to get a perception about you, and removing it arbitrarily would only cause loss of goodwill and face to a young, budding footballer, who in his own right never did anything wrong.

I hope you understand, empathize, and further close this discussion so as to not cause professional harm to Mohammad Asrar Rehbar.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportsLawyer (talk • contribs) 06:14, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

SportsLawyer, It is evident that dont know exactly about WP:NFOOTY. Plenty of articles about non notable football players are getting deleted here every day. You must understand that this is an online encyclopaedia with certain set of guidelines. I am also an Indian with a mission to improve Indian football related articles. I clearly know about our league structure. I league second divsion is not included in the list of Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. So automatically, players who play in that club is not notable and fails WP:GNG. You mentioned about Kiyan Nassiri. That player has played for Mohun Bagan in the I league, which is included in the list, hence notable. I dont understand on the basis of what you are saying that Im causing harm to this player. So dont get frustrated and say anything blindly. By the way I am assuming good faith here since you are new here. But I also suspect that you are a sock of Footballbrain01 who posted this simliar thing in my talk page [2] Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:06, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

An Article put for Deletion by you

Respected Sir/Madam,

As I could see you have marked the wiki page of Asrar Rehbar under deletion stating he hasn't played any full Professional League match. So I would like to bring to your notice that Asrar has played in the 2nd Division I-League for the past seasons which is a fully Professional League organised by AIFF for Promotion to I-League. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbrain01 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Footballbrain01, first of all please dont call me sir as this platform is not under the authority of anybody. And I nominated the article for AFD because the player has not played in a fully professional league as per current scenario. You may have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. I League 2nd division is not listed there. Thats why I opened the discussion. If you want to add it into the list, you can start a discussion in Wikiproject football and reach consenus. Hope you understand. If you still have any doubt, you may ask me. Happy to help. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 05:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

I understand you have gone as per the knowlege of the list provided, but just to add I-League 2nd Division does fall under the same criteria listed and the player is earning a full salary for the contract duration and is fully dependent on it. If you could add I-League 2nd Division in the list it would be great as it qualifies for the same. The club Asrar plays for i.e. Bangalore United also falls under the status of a Professional Football Club and is participating in the I-League 2nd Division to gain promotion to the I-League. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbrain01 (talk • contribs) 06:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Footballbrain01 I cannot simply add any league into the list. Any major changes in wikipedia is attained only based on consensus. It will take time and I still believe Indian football is under develpoment and we will get a proper league structure by 2025. So I would not like to open any disussion at the moment. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Socks

Hi! Quick question: Have you filed a WP:SPI regarding the editors you claim to be master/sock? If yes, then templating them and linking to the SPI would be fine. If no, then labelling them as socks would be harassment etc. Best! Vikram Vincent 09:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Vincentvikram, Im definetly sure they are socks. But they have not caused as much disruption as of now. So I only meant for a warning. I have never opened an SPI before. So should I remove the tag? Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Tagging an account without proof could be problematic. If you think they are socks then gather the evidence and present it at the SPI based on the standard process while providing diffs etc. If you don't plan to do that then removing the tag might be better. Prudence. Vikram Vincent 10:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

RE: ARTICLE DELETION - MOHAMMAD ASRAR REHBAR

Hi, thanks for acknowledging my response. With all due respect, I have gone through the WikiProject Football/Fully professional league guidelines that you have referred to. If you observe carefully, in the list of fully professional leagues, right below the category of Men's League it says - "This list is incomplete, you can help by adding missing items with reliable sources ". So my guess here would be that a safe assumption can be drawn that this list is by no means all exhaustive? This is why I referred you to the definition of a professional league, which is given in the same article, so as to cordially communicate to you that Bengaluru United, the team Asrar plays for, is a PROFESSIONAL team, that has PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS on its payroll. This is a club that is strategically partnered with Sevilla FC of Spain. Ask yourself this, why would a top-tier professional football club from Spain partner with a club that is merely semi-professional? Ask yourself this as well, that all those teams that compete in the I-League 2nd Division for a spot in the I-League, are all of them semi-professional clubs competing in a competition? And do they only become "professional" once they qualify? As a matter of fact, if you see the Wikipedia page for the I-League 2nd Division itself, it says - "The I-League 2nd Division is an Indian professional football league. It is currently the 2nd tier of the Indian football league system, behind the Indian Super League and I-League".

The reason I referred to Kiyan Nassiri was to precisely prove this, that is he today not a professional football player because he plays for the ATK Reserves in the Calcutta Super Division? He still is, right? I understand he has played a game for Mohun Bagan in the I-League, but did he downgrade to being a semi-professional footballer because he's playing in the Super Divison? No.

I will simplify this for you: WHO IS A NOTABLE PLAYER - "Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a competitive game between two teams from FULLY PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE, will generally be regarded as notable." WHAT IS A FULLY PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE - "A fully professional league is one in which virtually all[quantify] adult players are paid a salary that they can live on and do not need additional sources of income. This salary should be a living wage in the nation where the league is based, and preferably around or above the average or median national wage. The professionalism of the league should also extend to sufficient contact hours, and facilities, equipment, expenses and other support as necessary to allow the full-time pursuit of the sport."

Does the I league 2nd Divison, and Bengaluru United a part of it, fulfill the standard for a team set out by the definition of a fully professional league? Yes. Does Mohammad Asrar Rehbar fulfill the definition of a notable player? Yes.

I will repeat again, the list you keep referring to IS NOT THE BE ALL END ALL - IT IS NOT ALL EXHAUSTIVE. Which is why, in good faith, I am appealing to your good sense here. If you are an Indian and are working towards the betterment of the sport, then we are all on the same page, aren't we? I may be new here, but I've worked in the football industry for the last 12 years, that too very closely with some of the biggest superstars in Indian football. Believe me, It is extremely important that all of us in the Indian football community understand each other and help each of us to grow.

I, in no way, want to be/intend to be disrespectful. I am just trying to logically put my point across, strictly and sincerely in the spirit of discussion, and i really hope you understand.

Have a great day. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportsLawyer (talk • contribs) 10:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

SportsLawyer, You may be right. So you can tell your concerns in Wikipedia:WikiProject Football after opening a discussion to incude I league 2nd division into the list of professional league. Otherwise, I cannot do anything in this case. I just followed the procedures as per the guideline and Im sure I have done that right. And regarding the case of Kiyan Nassiri, it doesnt matter where he plays now. The thing that matters is that whether he has played for any professional club in the past. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 12:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

False Accusation of being a sock

It just came to my notice wherein you accused a user of being my sock which mean having multiple wiki accounts. I would like to clarify that this is my only account currently active and just because multiple person supporting the same argument, doesn’t give you the right to call them sock puppet. Going by your way of accusing someone of being a sock, if more than 2 person support a same argument that means all the accounts are interconnected. So I guess at wiki no 2 people could have the same opinion isn't it? I have been in the field of Indian Football for about 4 years and I understand the league structure of India. I-League 2nd Division clears all the criteria’s mentioned in the article sent by you

I do not want to be disrespectful but I would request you not to label/accuse someone based on similar opinion unless you have any proof/evidence to support your claim as mentioned by user:vincentvikram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbrain01 (talk • contribs) 11:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Footballbrain01 on going through your account log, it shows that you have only made 4 edits. The user SportsLawyer just created his/her account 8 hours ago and his first edit is in my talk page. That made me suspicious. Anyway dont worry. Iam currently collecting evidence and will definelty go to SPI if time allows me to do so. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 11:55, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Sure, keeping wiki clean of such accounts is great but request you not to accuse based on assumptions as I wouldn't like to be tagged as a sock for not doing anything of that sort. No hard feelings, keep up your good work. Kashmorwiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbrain01 (talk • contribs) 12:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu - if you think someone is operating more than one account and not declaring it, the best thing to do is to wait until you have enough evidence for an SPI, and then create a report at WP:SPI.

Some of the time, people who appear to be socks turn out to be completely innocent. I have sometimes put an hour or two of work into developing an SPI report on someone, but then not posted it because I have spotted evidence of their innocence.

Though there are templates for notifying people of an SPI, they can be interpreted as harassment. There are lots of policies against harassment and against biting new members. So, in general, I do not tell people if I launch an SPI concerning them. They do not need to know. If admins find that the account is a sock, the account holder will find out when he/she is blocked, and they can appeal. If admins find that the account is not a sock, the account holder does not need to know anything about the SPI.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:08, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Toddy1,thankyou for the advice. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 12:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hi dude, I'm new to Wikipedia. Athu kond detail aayi rules onnum ariyilla. Notability criteria yil kandath paranjanne ollu tto. ❤️ WikiShakeshere (talk) 08:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiShakeshere, Wikipedia needs volunteers likes us. But inorder to survive here as an editor, you must be very well aware with the basic guidelines. I always tries to help the new users. I dont want to bite any new users as I was also just a newbie like you once. Please be familiar with the basic guidelines and if you have any doubt, you may come to me and I will try my best to sort it out. By the way, its better to use English here, because many of the stalkers could be watching this conversation. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 08:32, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you so much 💞 WikiShakeshere (talk) 08:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

User:GSS Undid revision did by you on Deepa Nisanth. Comes to know that you are an admin. You have the right to remove CSD, right Kichu? WikiShakeshere (talk) 08:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiShakeshere, I am not an admin and please be aware of Wikipedia:Canvassing. You have been already reported at COI noticeboard for possible paid editing. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 08:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Priya Prakash Varrier

Hi.. Greetings.. The comment that you have posted on Draft:Priya Prakash Varrier is removed by Robert McClenon. Could you please check that out? Thank you ProudMallu (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

No, User:ProudMallu and User:Kashmorwiki, I did not remove the comment, but moved it to the talk page. The comment was in the body of the draft article, which is not where it belongs. I moved it to the talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou Robert McClenon. Its the first time Im commenting in an AFC. Did not know the correct procedures. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 04:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay!! Robert McClenon ProudMallu (talk) 04:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

doubt

How to remove or delete a user talk page discussion? Wikiaddictcommo (talk) 11:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikiaddictcommo, Generally, you are not supposed to blank your talk page discussion. Because, sometimes, talkpage discussions may contains notice or warnings issued by other users. So generally you should not remove it. But there is no problem in doing that. Its better you archive the discussion so that it can be used for future references easily incase you nees it. Please have a look at this WP:ARCHIVENOTDELETE and tell me if you have any doubts. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 12:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Have an enquiry!!

Sir, I have an enquiry, You know the YouTuber Arjyou(Arjun Somashekharan) isn't it, I hope so.Is he eligible enough for keeping the notability standards according to Wikipedia. If then why is an article about him not in Wikipedia. Can you help me find some reliable sources..... Hoping for a reply, Thanks AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 06:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, You are free to ask anything. But there is no need to call anyone sir. I also know about Arjun. But he is not meeting the notability criteria. See Draft:Arjun Sundaresan (2). Just being a youtuber does not makes him notable. The sources only says that he made 1 millon subscribers within a short period of time. But other than that, nothing notable is there about him. So its not possible to have an article for him in the present scenario. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 06:26, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay so that is how the notability standards are kept....okay I was wondering about it for quite a long time...Maybe after him reaching 5 million subscribers..he would be notable enough!!! Thanks for your genuine replies.... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 06:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, even if he meets 100 million subscribers, that doen not guarantee him an article. We create articles only for those who meets the notabilty criteria. Please note that Notable in the sense of being famous or popular—although not irrelevant—is only secondary. In the case of Arjun, other than having this much subscribers, is there anything else you can show me? Or has he won any notable awards. If so I can make a try. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 06:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, You may please see WP:ANYBIO, WP:ENT and WP:CREATIVE. Unfortunately Arjun does not meet any of these criteria. So we cannot have an article for him. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 06:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Chinese Rainbow Network page

I added more information to contest the removal, and removed the external link to avoid the impression of self-promotion. Please take a look, there are more contents such as the scholarship recipients etc are to be added, which serves an important archive for its history etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ynotswim (talk • contribs) 05:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Ynotswim, The page has been deleted. If you have any concerns, you may discuss the matter with the admin who deleted your article. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 08:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kashmorwiki, i just make edits in Quy Technology Article for more reliable resources. This article is very important for industry related users. So please suggest me what i can do to save this article from deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamsiddharthgarg (talk • contribs) 09:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Iamsiddharthgarg, the sources in the article fails to establish the notability of the company. None of the sources are giving in depth coverage about the subject. You need to do a lot of work in the article inorder to pass it WP:GNG Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 10:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Blogs as references

Hi there, re: this, we do not use blogs as references, per WP:UGC. We only care what reliable mainstream sources have to say. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, I have asded back the statement with better references this time.[3]. You can verify it using a transalator. Didnt noticed that was a blog. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 00:59, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

You should expect pushback on that, because you are using one person's opinion to describe what "some" think, (East Coast Daily) and you are making a fairly grandiose claim that Mammootty is widely regarded as a great actor in the scope of all Indian cinema, as opposed to Malayalam cinema. The inclusion of an online poll is relatively useless, since it is not a scientific poll. See MOS:FILM, as we don't typically care about audience polls. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, in the second sources I provided, it says that some people like K.S Chitra and others consider him as one of the greatest actor in Indian Cinema. And the statement I added does not say he is the greatest. It says that he is considered by some. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 01:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Kashmorwiki. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have temporarily enabled rollback on your account until {{{expiry}}}. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Go Phightins! 01:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou Go Phightins!. I will be doing my best and hope wont end up in any troubles. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 01:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

using

Hi! You changed content on an old message here. It is better to use the above strike out option instead of changing a sentence that others have already responded to. Thanks, Vikram Vincent 09:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

But Vincentvikram, its just a grammatical error I changed and I hope there is no problem with that. I think striking need to be used when you need to change your opinion or something like that. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

But Vincentvikram, its just a grammatical error I changed and I hope there is no problem with that. I think striking need to be used when you need to change your opinion or something like that. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

this statement Im also pinging some other users who participates in politics based deletion discussions could have been struck out rather than deleting I feel. Best! Vikram Vincent 09:29, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

VincentvikramThankyou for your suggestion. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 09:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much

Hey, never talked before. But, let me thank you as you nominated my account for autopatrolled rights. I will do my best to improve Bihar related articles and other articles i usually work upon. Heba Aisha (talk) 04:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Heba Aisha, I nominated you only because you are giving a good contribution to this encyclopedia. Also only two of your articles have been deleted so far. I hope you are familiar with the autoparolled right. The right allows you to mark the pages you createe yourself as reviewed. Feel free to ask if you have any doubts. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 06:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

March 15

Can you please check this? Draft:Divya S. Iyer reliable sources ?? ProudMallu (talk) 12:37, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, the present sources in the article are not enough. They are not giving the in-depth coverage to make her notable. Do you have any other relible sources? Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 12:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

[4] , [5], [6], [7] , [8] ProudMallu (talk) 12:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

What about these... ? The controversy about her. ProudMallu (talk) 12:58, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

[9] [10] ... Kichu ProudMallu (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, When a person does some notable work or any notable work over a period of years, independent sources providing detailed coverage about the subject in the form of a biography talking about the subject, his/her life and notable works must be there, inorder to have a stand alone article for him/her. The sources you provided are nothing like that. They are talking about the subject's marriage and something other like that. Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 13:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

What about the above mentioned links? About the controversial transfer of land ? ProudMallu (talk) 13:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, thats just a controversy right? We cannot have an article about her until she gets enough significant coverage. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 13:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I've posted a question regarding Draft:Divya S. Iyer on Teahouse with the title Need a help. And I got response from a reviewer that the sources are much enough for the approval!! Can you please check that? And I'm so sorry for disturbing you always, Kichu. ProudMallu (talk) 15:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, I have no concerns regarding the reliability of sources. Im telling about the sigcov. Im afraid I cannot review this draft without the opinion of some other reviewers. And this is not a disturbance for me. As a reviewer, its my responsibility to help other users like you. Always happy to help. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 15:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, Please check this out [11]. He says, the article passes WP:GNG. ProudMallu (talk) 15:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, He is saying I feel this article's notability is borderline. So its still not confirmed. Please be patient. If 2 more reviewers can confirm that it passes GNG, I can accept the article. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 15:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

“Kichu” question

Why do you call yourself “Kichu” instead of Kashmorwiki? -Cupper52^Discuss! 19:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Cupper52, Well thats an interesting question to ask me. I have a friend, whom we used to call Kashmor by merging his first name and last name in an unique way. I actually started this account just out of curiosity. I never even thought I would make up to this. As time progressed, this encyclopedia gradually became a daily part of my life. Although, I still do not want to change the name. I keep it as a wonderful memory. And I also felt like using an another a unique name like most usera do here.I hope you know that most users dont prefer to use their real name here. So my nickname 'Kichu', which is only known to my family and closest members, was the one I chose. Thus I can also hide my identity. Thats all. This is the story behind my name 'Kichu'. By the way, is your real name Cupper? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 19:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

About my first Article

Kichu, I have made a new article, Chattayum Mundum, Actually it is not that sourced and also about it's notability. But I have collected some sources from many other Wikipedia articles which specifies about the topic. Please check it and try to improve it.Thanks.... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, congratulations on creating your first article. I recommend you to use your sandbox or draftspace to work on the article before publishing it in the mainspace. Since you are new here, I recommend you usinf draftspace. After you finish the work, you can contact me and I'll review it for you. After gaining some experience, you can directly publish the articles in mainspace. And about this article, I was not able to find any reliable sources. But dont need to worry. I have added some to establish notability. But please make sure next time that before publishing an article, it is properly sourced. If you feel it has any issues even after providing sources, feel free to contact me or any other reviewers. If you have any doubts regarding the terms like draftspace ,mainspace etc.. you can ask me. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks So much for your help!!! I'll use the Article Wizard from the next time. This time I was very familiar with the topic as I am a Margamkali dancer....that is why I created the article directly... thanks for your help!!!! AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 06:20, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, always happy to help. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

New Draft

Hello friend.. Good morning.. Draft:Manoj Abraham, please.. have a look at this? ProudMallu (talk) 05:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu,  Done Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, please.. have a look at this? Draft:Yathish Chandra G H ProudMallu (talk) 16:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Basit Ahmed Bhat has been accepted

Basit Ahmed Bhat, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hi friend, Good afternoon.. Hope you are doing good. I've created a draft on Draft:Prasanth Nair. Can you please review that? Thank you ProudMallu (talk) 07:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, let me have a look at it and I will update you soon. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:21, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kichu...

Edaaa njaan aanu ketto Aarya, Ennodu kshamikkaamo... I'm actually sorry for what i did. Edit count kootan vendi mathraa njaan athu cheythe. Njaan malayalathil ezhuthaan kaaranam, vere aaarkum manasilaakathe irikkaan vendiyaanu.... If i had got a warning i could have stopped it....Okay.Bye.. AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA (talk) 13:41, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA, let me check what actually happened. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, if AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA is your nee account, you must disclose it. By the way, I cannot see any blocks on your old account. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, Edaa njaan block aayi kaaranam njaan user pagil edit count kootan vendi edit cheythille athine adheham User:Oshwah (not here to build an encyclopaedia) ennu parangu permanent block cheythu....pinne njaan vere muriyil Vanni irunnittaanu IP address maatti Puthiya account create cheythathu. AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA (talk) 14:15, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA, I know Oshwah and I can talk to him regarding your block. But you need to change somethings first. I understood your present situation for you using Malayalam. But I already told you you must only use english. I will discuss this matter with Oshwah. He is actually a person with great helping mentality and is one of the wikipedians I like the most. But if your behaviour is like this, nothings gonna change. Let me talk to Oshwah. One question; does your old account havr access to your talk page.? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, I used Malayalam to convey the message I'm not elaborating that. Were I went wrong is that I misunderstood Wikipedia to tolerate all that I do but I was wrong I know that. Please try to talk with Oshwah and tell him that I regret what I did.okay thanks for your help...

And yes Kichu, I have access to my old account and it's talk page. AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA (talk) 14:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA, please stop using this account. You are getting into more trouble. Please use your old account AARYA SAJAYAN. And my friend, please dont dont worry. I have talked to Oshwah regarding this and is waiting for his reply. I hope you will be given a second chance. Please wait until his reply and use that time to learn about our guidelines and policies especially about Wikipedia:User pages that got you into a block. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:40, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much Kichu, really grateful to you. AARYA MUVATTUPUZHA (talk) 14:40, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

An enquiry

Kichu, is it safe to write down my personal details in the user page like where I'm from and my qualifications....????? AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 08:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, while most of the editors dont revela their identityz there are some who does it. I have revealed my details except my real name. So I also recommend you to so the same. It all depends on you. You can have a look at Wikipedia:Wikipedia is anonymous and decide whether to reveal it. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Creation of a article: VVDN Technologies Pvt. Ltd.

Hi there, just wanted to ask a quick question. I am a tech enthusiast based out of India, currently researching about 'Make in India' initiative by the Indian gov. As a part of my research, I am independently trying to create an article on one of the companies by the name of 'VVDN Technologies Pvt. Ltd.', India's leading electronics manufacturing company.

The article is continuously getting rejected even after adding all the authentic citations and links. Can you check once and help me, please?

Article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:VVDN_Technologies_Pvt._Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohitwikieditor (talk • contribs) 06:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Mohitwikieditor (talk) 06:34, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Mohitwikieditor, there are no major issues regarding reliability of sources or significant coverage. But the article is not written in neutral point of view. It almost read like an advertisement. Please have a look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. If you fix these issues, I can review it again. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki, edited the article and tried to align it with 'neutral point of view', request your review again. And also, suggest if more edits are needed. Mohitwikieditor (talk) 09:36, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Mohitwikieditor, it stil looks like an advertisement to me. It is not written in encyclopedic style. You can have a look at the article of other companies and work on your draft Anyway, Im not declining it. Let other reviewers have a look at it. You can come to me after the problem has been solved Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Rosguill. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Sajan Mani, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

_signed, Rosguill ^talk 16:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I am talking about the recent minor dispute between me and Reasearch Voltas, I think what he said was right. I should have never used another language other than Malayalam. I should have kept quiet and accepted it. I had no reason to argue. I was the person who had done the wrong thing. I would like to publically apologize to him. Again if some allegation is raised better I don't respond. Otherwise maybe another dispute may occur due to the misunderstanding of both parties. I feel now it has all settled down. Thanks 😊😊 AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 17:46, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, its better that you go ask for an apology in his talk page. Thats the right way to do it. Be a mallu :) Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 17:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Sahaj01 (talk) 17:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC) you declined articles for some improper reference so can you guide me which are inappropriate from your side....?

Sahaj01, which article are you referring to ? Draft:Jivanpran Abajibapashri, if you are talking about this, I could not find any independent sources giving him enough coverage in depth. Inorder for a topic to have an article, we need independent reliabe sources. Regads Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 18:13, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Reliable sources

Respected Sir/Madam, I kindly request you to help me in removing unreliable references from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sanjib_Kumar_Karmee. Please let me know which the unreliable references are. Kdis98 (talk) 13:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Kdis98, the problem is that the current sources does not gives the subject enough coverage to make him notable. Most of the sources are giving some trivial or incidental coverage about the subject. Thats why I declined it. If you give any 3 best sources that gives him signifant coverage, that is the better option instead of providing plenty of unnecessary ones. Please see WP:REFBOMB. You are almost there my friend. If you point out me atleast any one reliable source that gives him significant coverage (about his life, career, achievements, awards etc) I wil accept the draft. Let me know if you haveany doubts. By the way please dont call me sir. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I think this matter was already discussed earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac/Archive_32#Deletion_of_Important_references Could you please take a look on https://orissadiary.com/team-led-by-odia-scientist-dr-sanjib-kumar-karmee-develops-pilot-scale-pyrolysis-technology-for-producing-biofuel-from-wastes/ https://www.orissapost.com/team-led-by-odia-scientist-invents-organic-energy-from-waste-materials/amp/ Regards, Kdis98 (talk) 16:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Kdis98, I will discuss this matter with another experienced reviewer and soon get back you. I still need to make sure Im doing right thing. Thats why Im not accepting it now. Please be patient. I will get back to you soon Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:52, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Kdis98 (talk) 05:26, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kdis98 See this opinion by another user. He alsmost have the same opinion.[12]. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your effort. However, I am slightly confused. How many citations and H index required to qualify for Wikipedia? Karmee was in top 2% in his field https://www.dailypioneer.com/2020/state-editions/odia-scientist-karmee-in-world---s-top-2--list.html Best regards! Kdis98 (talk) 06:09, 19 March 2021 (UTC) Kdis98, its better if you discuss this with Hatchens. Im not really an expert in this field. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Kdis98 (talk) 06:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I request you not to delete the page. I have put a lot of effort to collect and write the article. Also, the person is working on social front. Thank you ! Kdis98 (talk) 06:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Another tool that is sometimes useful

You seem to be collecting useful tools, so I thought I would tell you about another one.

Sometimes we have to deal with IP editors whose IP keeps changing because of the way IPs are assigned. So it is useful to be able to look at the contributions for an IP range, instead of one IP. This is the documentation page for the Template:IP range calculator. For example

{{IP range calculator|169.149.54.161 169.149.54.192}} produces:
Sorted 2 IPv4 addresses:

169.149.54.161

169.149.54.192

Total affected	Affected addresses	Given addresses	Range	Contribs
128	128	2	169.149.54.128/25	contribs
2	1	1	169.149.54.161	contribs
	1	1	169.149.54.192	contribs

which can be used to look up the contributions of the IPs in that range: Special:Contributions/169.149.54.128/25 -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Toddy1, thankyou for the information. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:49, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

About the article

Hello Kichu, actually there is a Malayalam article, (ചട്ടയും മുണ്ടും) for the English article Chattayum Mundum, so how can we link those two articles...... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 01:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, can you please define what you meant by linking those two articles. I didnt got ya Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I meant that, if I any user who is reading the article ചട്ടയും മുണ്ടും in Malayalam Wikipedia wants to read it in English then he could choose the option to read it in English. Did you get me??? AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 07:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Under Languages in the left column you can add other language articles Vikram Vincent 08:29, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, I hope Vikram has given the answer for you.Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Kashmorwiki, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Go Phightins! 16:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou Go Phightins!. I will do my best. Regards Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 16:16, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations, Kashmorwiki! May you create at least "three score ten" articles :-) Vikram Vincent 11:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou my dear friend Vincentvikram:) But my rights have been temporarily pulled off for few weeks (may be 2) by an another admin. I hope you know that I recently became a reviewer at AFC. So according to that admin, I need to gain some experience at AFC. After that I can reapply for both autpatrolled as well as new page reviewer rights. Thats why I am currently spenting more time at AFC's. Anyway thankyou for taking your time to congratulate. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:31, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Recent article submission review

Hello Kashmorwiki - you have just declined an article I submitted due to a deficiency of references and I was wondering if you could specify for me exactly where it lacks. I understand the Wikipedia guidelines on notability etc. and thought I had referenced well (especially in comparison to other established wikipedia articles on similar topics). What would you advise specifically to improve the referencing? many thanks Nlm94 (talk) 14:34, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Nlm94, the draft Kensington Dragons Football Club you submitted is about a football club that fails WP:FOOTYN under the club criteria and is also not supported by reliable sources. The draft also reads more like an advertisement. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

An Elephant for you!

	The Elephant of Civility
	Sending my support for you and your work on Wikipedia, even when we disagree. Beccaynr (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou Beccaynr, I really appreciate your effort to save an article. Keep up the work. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

That was a response

Some people attack me on a organised manner that's why I tried to react on same manner on some pages they contribute. I am not a main contributer on politics. Normally I always try to contribute more on non political sessions. If you feel, I tried to attack any political party. That's your own opinion. It was me faced attack. I lost all my patience that's why I did that. Vasucrossroads (talk) 10:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Vasucrossroads, I havent said that you tried to attack any political parties. I just gave you a warning [13] As, I'm a rollbacker and member of counter vandalism unit, its my duty to warn users, who cause disruption. More over,Im not the only person who warned you. These examples proves that [14] [15] [16] [17]. So please behave here by keeping our policies and guidlines in your mind. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft

Hello. Please see the article - Draft:Mediacube. I have added a link detailing the history and activities of the company. This source is known in the territory of Belarus (the company is also from this country). Also according to the rules: 1) A scholarly article, a book passage, or ongoing media coverage focusing on a product or organization. This company is considered in a scientific article and has a review in authoritative media. Research Article - 1; Detailed examination of the company - 2. I ask for your help in transferring the article in the main space. Thank! Gadagasu (talk) 07:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Gadagasu, it still feels like an advertisement. You havent tried to reslove this issue pointed out by another reviewer. Also the sources provided in the article does not seem to be reliable. I am sorry that I cannot accept the article in the present state. Please come back to me after fixing these issues. You can ask me if there are any doubts or concerns regarding notability or anything else. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Please tell me, the sources that I gave above are not authoritative? Publication dev.by (well-known Belarusian) examines in detail the history and activities of the company. The scientific publication also discusses the company. There are no interviews and these sources are independent. About the advertising style. I would be grateful if you can help me fix the style, it is difficult for me to do this since I speak English at an intermediate level. Thank you very much! Gadagasu (talk) 08:20, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Gadagasu, you provided 15 sources out of which this[18] and [19] this seems to have given atleast any least coverage. But we need significant coverage. Also Im not convinced with the reliability of these ones. Yes they are independent, but is not giving enough sigcov and is not reliable. So I would advice you to remove all the unwanted sources so that WP:REFBOMB can be avoided and provide only the necessary ones. Dear friend, you only need to show the any 3 best sources to establish notability. And regarding the tone, if you fix these problems mentioned, I will definetly give it out a try. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that most of the sources are not authoritative or only mention the company. It looks like a link hanger. I will now delete and leave only the reliable ones. Gadagasu (talk) 08:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Gadagasu, please make sure you add other reliable sources. The two I mentioned are not reliable. It also does not give any sigcov. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:43, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I removed unnecessary sources. Added to the article dev.by and tut.by (well-known Belarusian publications: Tut.By), as well as vc.ru. Plus, the article has a source for a scientific article by the professor, where he examines the company's income, as well as its activities. Gadagasu (talk) 09:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

This is the information I managed to get from this source. This is an independent review of the history and activities of the company: an independent review of the history and activities of the company: MediaCube appeared six years ago, when TV producer and art manager Mikhail Bychenok left the Belarusian television, where he had worked since the age of 17 and devoted 10 years to it. Mikhail took the starting capital — 50 thousand dollars — from his father, a businessman in the construction industry. The money went to the equipment, the office and the first salaries of employees. According to Bychenko, there were no other investments: the company produced entertainment video content for ONT, BT, STV, including New Year's shows, made commercials and broadcasts for banks, mobile operators and retailers (one of the major projects — "Luck to Boot" for Eurotrade) and grew at the expense of revenue. Four years ago, the company won a tender to select a regional partner of YouTube in Belarus: the partner had to work with Belarusian authors, solving technical and financial issues. Having won the competition, the company became MCN (Multi-Channel Network) — one of about 300 organizations that provide assistance in managing channels on video platforms. Among them are Russian Yoola, Ukrainian Air, Canadian BroadbandTV, American Fullscreen, etc. Having received the MCN status, MediaCube entered the global market. MediaCube has more than 1,000 partner authors. About 50% are from the CIS countries (including about 100 partners from Belarus), the second largest market is Latin America. Among the clients of the Belarusian MCN YouTube-bloggers Vlad Paper (A4), Dima Maslennikov, Pleasant Ildar, Egor Creed, Sergey Lazarev. The total audience of all authors is more than 200 million people. Legally, MediaCube today is a holding company with the Belarusian parent company EmCiEn Global LLC (HTP resident, subject of the transaction with Zubr Capital) and five "daughters" - Belarusian Media Cube Production LLC and FotoVideoPro LLC, Russian Mediacube LLC, as well as Cyprus and Canada MediaCube. The sole owner of all legal entities until recently was Mikhail Bychenok, now the owners of the parent company are also listed as "Zubr Capital". MediaCube employs about 100 people, including about 10 developers, and the rest of the staff provides technical support, works with bloggers, sells, and makes content. Video products account for 10% of the revenue structure (annual revenue-from $ 10 million a year), the main part of the money comes from MCN. Gadagasu (talk) 09:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Also added a link to Nasha Niva magazine - 1. And I found a book where, on page 370, the activities of the company are discussed. Gadagasu (talk) 10:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Gadagasu, Sorry for the late reply. Got busy with real life stuffs. I need to discuss this matter with another reviewer who is more experienced than me. Moreover, the sources are not in English. So Im not sure about the reliablity of it. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:14, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, Belarusian sources. dev.by and tut.by are considered serious news outlets. The book and the scientific article are also serious literature. When can I expect feedback from you? Gadagasu (talk) 11:32, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

It depends on the response from the reviewer I was talking about. I will let you know soon. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 12:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I hope you found that the draft has been declined. You dont need to worry. Please try to make changes as per the reviewer and you can always come to me if you have any concerns. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 12:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Advertisement-like Content

Hi,

Hope you are doing well.

I'm currently working on a page [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bhartiya_Group_(Conglomerate) ] and in spite of trying multiple times to make the content up to the standard, it keeps getting rejected. Yes, moderators (and you) have provided comments that my content sounds promotional but it would be great if you could highlight what exact points do not fit Wikipedia. That will help me to rectify my mistakes.

Thank you. Imdavid21 (talk) 16:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Imdavid21, I did not day its promotional. What I said was it almost looks like an advertisement. The draft is written from the viewpoint of the company, focusing on what the company says about itself, meaning its basically just an advertisement. I dont have any objections with the reliablity of the sources in the draft. But its tone is not suitable for this encyclopedia. Please have a look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. I alsostrongly advice you to have a look at the articles about other companies/corporates and remodify this draft accordingly. If you do so,this may get accepeted next time. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind guidance. I have made changes to the draft as per the guidelines. Kindly take a look at it and let me know if it is fit for submission again.

Thank you. Imdavid21 (talk) 19:59, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hello friend, I've created an article on Dev Mohan. can you please review Draft:Dev Mohan ? Abhivadhyah^Talk 08:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey Abhivadhyah, you are ProudMallu right. I though you were retired? Why came back just after a day? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Proudmallu? Actually I don't get you. Abhivadhyah^Talk 09:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Abhivadhyah, You requested for a user name change into [20]this and later requested for its deletion. Dear friend, whatever you do is stored permanently on the server. You recently made this edit [21] in the article which was accepeted by me. You can also have a look at this [22]. All these simply proves that you are the same user Proudmallu. I dont know what you are trying to do here. Quite interesting you know. I hope you are aware of our policies about using multiple accounts. But here its not the case.Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:41, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Comes to know that proudmallu changes their name to Abhivadhyah. Abhivadhyah is the subcaste of Malhotra. There is more than 2000 Abhivadhyah people are here is Kerala. And I edited Prithviraj Productions. What's wrong in that. I added few categories there? If you have any questions regarding my identity, please contact Wikipedia Administrator Or suggest me to CheckUser. Pitty on you User:Kichu... And you don't have any right to question my identity. Abhivadhyah^Talk 09:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Abhivadhyah, Im not only talking about Pritviraj Productions. Both of you comes to my talk page and request to review your drafts. And this guy Proudmallu, there is already a case open at SPI where he/she is suspected by another user.Hope the socks will be caught soon. See this [23]. By the way, if you cannot be civil on my talk page. You dont need to come here. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 10:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Am I the only person who requested you to review draft? " Do you want me to review your draft" this is what you written on your userpage. I noticed it, so I approached. I'll never come to your talk page anymore. Thank you Abhivadhyah^Talk 10:13, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Abhivadhyah, see this [24]. Both of your writing style looks same. [25]. It was proudmallu who requested me to review Pritviraj Production. All seems suspicious here. Did I harrassed you. I just asked and you launched personal attack against me by saying Pitty on you. I have nothing more to say. I will deal this with someone else. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 10:20, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

You can do what ever you want. You are the person who questions my identity first. And now, you are saying about the writing style. What I need to tell other than 'Pitty on you' here.<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus"Abhivadhyah^Talk 10:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Abhivadhyah, An experienced admin has confirmed that both of you are same persons. See [26] Now you may please go to his talk page and tell that you pitty on him. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 10:47, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Anyhow, I don't wanna go to his talk page and disrespect him. I respect what he says. Who are you man.. what do you think about yourself? pitty on you. You have only pending review rights.. and It's just like monkey with a garland. Once again Pitty on youuuuu.......... Abhivadhyah^Talk 11:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't have nothing !!! Do what ever you want f**king fool Abhivadhyah^Talk 14:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm don't wanna continue in Wikipedia with people like you, bullshit!! Abhivadhyah^Talk 14:38, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

You nominated those articles Divya S. Iyer and Prashanth Nair (IAS) just because the of this incident. Coz comes to know that you knew about those article from 2 days before. After this issue with User:ProudMallu and me, you nominated that for Deletion. People with brain can understand you motive behind that. Abhivadhyah^Talk 14:41, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

You've such a dirty mind. Go to hell. And listen, I don't have nothing.. if I leave Wikipedia.

And, sorry admins for those words, the owner of this user page is such a devil minded person. He started the issue first (you can investigate). If you find any fault in him, kindly take down his WP rights. It's just a request. Thanking Wikipedia and respecting the Wikipedia Admins as well as bureaucrats. Thank you Abhivadhyah^Talk 14:48, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

[27].It is evident who is doing such things like you just said here. Thankyou for your harrassment and wasting my time. I have another business to do here. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Haha lol, what are you saying mahn!!? You didn't understand what he meant there. He is saying about Proudmallu changed their name to Abhivadhya. Not about Abhivaadhyah. My point remains: creating the article under one username and voting here under another (however that came about) gives the impression that your vote is a neutral, unbiased one, whereas it's the article creator voting to keep their article (as would be expected). this is what he added there. You have to read that bracket too. Changing proudmallu to Abhivadhya. That what he mentioned there. Not about Abhivaadhyah. Abhivadhyah^Talk 16:12, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

And that what I always repeating same sentence again and again.. pitty on you.. grow up baby... Grow up.. you are still an amul baby. Abhivadhyah^Talk 16:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Abhivadhyah, I already requested you politely to leave my talk page. This is harassement at its peak. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:14, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

You are the person who torture me.. you are the person who is telling about me to everyone.. like a paradhooshana sthree.. pitty on you... Abhivadhyah^Talk 16:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Abhivadhyah, now that you are partially blocked, I am pretty sure you might have created another account by now. My dear friend, if you are seeing this, I would like to say that, I have nothing more than just some sympathy for you. Because you did something that people with a stable mentality wont do. I wish for your speedy recovery. I dont know what pleasure you are getting when you harass other users, like you just did here. You said I tortured you. No users had said that to me for the past 8 months while I was here. In fact I'm a user who spents his entire free time here just to build a beautiful encyclopedia and I'm proud of it. I always tries to help newcomers. You can find that if you ask that to AARYA SAJAYAN. I was the person who trid to gave her a second chance while she was blocked. And I believe users like you dont deserve a second chance. Because you are not here to build encyclopedia. Please dont ever come to my talk page again if you are using another account. I dont have time to waste by talking with people like you. We have got an encyclopedia here to build friend! Bu the way, regarding that AFD nomination of two articles you created from your old account, that was basically a honeytrap, rather than AFD nom. First of all, that two articles deserved AFD nominaton for sure. But I wanted you to show up from your old account ProudMallu from which you said that you have stopped editing. You just caught the bait and showed up from it to vote as Keep. That was just a part of collecting evidence to present at the SPI. I would like to thank Toddy1 for giving me this idea firt. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki, despite the harassment, please do not ever nominate an article at AFD to set "a honeytrap". It's abusing the deletion process to prove a point. If there is misconduct, present your case on a noticeboard or contact an admin (which you did), you don't need to play games like this to "catch" an editor. It wastes the time of other editors who participated in these AFDs. You are doing too much good work to do these stunts. Please do not repeat this, even if you are provoked. There are systems in place to handle these problems, rely on them. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:43, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Liz, you may please have look at those AFD's. Honeytrap was just another side of a coin. These two articles were declined at AFC. And this user created the exact copy. So what Im suppposed to do? I am a user who always tries to remove such articles from this encyclopedia. Basically this is not a play game to "catch" an editor. Those two definetly deserved AFD nom. So I thought, why cant I also use this opportunity for catching a sock. Thats what exactly happened. Please go through the entire set of events and my past AFD noms. Another editor has confirmed also that I was right in this case. See [28] ( Also pinging Beccaynr here). And this guy has been finally blocked for sockpuppetry. I strongly believe that this honeytrap, which I used here played a big part in catching those socks. Its not two or three socks. Its seven accounts that have been caught. More yet to come. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

For those stalkers who dont have an idea of whats going on here, have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phoenix man. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

I somehow missed the ping, but I'm glad I decided to stalk your page. I have gone on at length in the AfDs about how I feel that they are brought in good faith, and therefore WP:NOTPOINTy, i.e. just because someone is making a point does not mean that they are disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate that point. As a rule, editors engaging in "POINTy" behavior are making edits with which they do not actually agree, for the deliberate purpose of drawing attention and provoking opposition in the hopes of making other editors see their "point", and perhaps it bears mentioning here that I have !voted keep on both and I am happy to debate and discuss the merits of the articles, because I think we have a good faith difference of opinion about how to interpret the notability guidelines. I don't view these articles as particularly different from your usual pattern with regard to AfD nominations, even though they happened to help you protect Wikipedia. That may be why I interpret your phrase "something like a honeytrap" in the context of your usual conduct as an editor - you were doing what you do, and it happened to expose a problematic situation. I think the context matters, and it includes your work as an editor generally, the disclosures you made in the specific AfDs, the specific phrasing you used at ANI, and the way that notability guidelines are open to interpretation, perhaps especially for the specific articles we've been debating. From my view, just because you described the articles as "something like a honeytrap" does not undermine the good faith basis that otherwise exists for the AfD, so it seems WP:NOTPOINTy. Beccaynr (talk) 04:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou Beccaynr for deeply understanding who I am and how I tries to contribute to this encyclopedia. Its really hard to accept when someone accuses you for the things that you actually dont know about. I was really frustrated when some users misinterpreted my actions. You know me very well, because both of us have participated in several AFD discussions. Despite we mutually disagree with our opinions, we always share mutual respect and thats the way things should go on. But some users take such things personally and thats where things goes in wrong direction. I had always wondered how much time you are spending to save some articles, by doing a brief WP:Before and some researchs. I am already fed up due to some real life issues. This project now plays a important part in my life and for the past few days, I almost had a bad time here too. For the first time as an editor here, I was personally harrassed by Abhivadhyah (Im glad he and his socks are blocked now). I had to entirely waste my couple of days dealing with him and his socks. Im totally tired now and needs a break. So Im planning to have a wikibreak to freshen up my mind inorder to have a fresh restart. But there are some areas which needs my attention. So I will only show up when I need to be. Once again, I thankyou for supporting me in these hard times and Im glad that you are keeping up your good work. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I am glad to do what I can, and I hope you can get some good rest and recharge. I also enjoy Wikipedia very much, and there is always so much to do and learn - while I am always planning to create more articles, AfD often seems to offer so many opportunities for research and writing, and learning about the guidelines. It is clear to me that you are a dedicated editor who is here to build and protect the encyclopedia, and after seeing what you have had to go through recently, it felt important to boldly offer my support. In the meantime, I look forward to your return. Beccaynr (talk) 07:09, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Kichu

Hello Kichu what happened???? Please don't leave Wikipedia. Wikipedia needs understanding, caring and kind editors like you. And if you are quiting Wikipedia who will guide me. Please don't feel demotivated there are so many things to do in Wikipedia and almost Wiki is not perfect it needs sincere editors to always patrol and check on it's pages for revertion, updation and all the other stuff. Look at my case itself I am writing my exams for my Mtech in Kothamanagalam currently, I am finding time for Wikipedi. Atleast 2 hours a day. My IQ levels have boosted so much after being in wiki...🤣🤣🤣 I am again requesting to you to not quit Wikipedia. You will get busy about something or the other over here. I'm here just because of you so please don't leave this platform.... Thanks AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 17:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, Thank you for giving some love and motivation while I was in a hard situation. First of all let me tell you a thing. As of now, I have no plans of leaving this project. There is a correction in one of your sentence. I understood that I need wikipedia more than it needs me. :). I just wanted to take a short break so that I can freshen up my mind and this two days break seems to have done that. I am glad that you are enjoying your time here. All the best for your exams and when it is over, I would love to see you spending more time here. And I wish we meet together in real life in the near future. Im happy than always and much love for you. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Please don't leave

You recently announced that you were taking a wikibreak due to feeling discouraged about Wikipedia. Please stay, I want you to keep going. Best, -Cupper52^Discuss! 21:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is a place which is beautified by editors like you. Come back soon. ─ The Aafī on Mobile ^(talk) 07:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Cupper52 and AafiOnMobile, Im glad that to see that users like you are there to give the motivation for me in these hard times. It was also so hard these two days without wikipedia and I understood how much I love this project. Some users were also requesting for my help in some areas and I found out that I should be back. Two days are not enough to have a good break. Anyway Im happy now, feels so freshened up and is ready to go. Much love and respect for you guys. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

A lot of info boxes in article's talk page. How to decipher them

Hi, First of all, Thank you for accepting article - Sajan Mani. I dont edit wikipedia regularly. Wrote about Sajan. In the talk page, there are a lot of info boxes in Talk:Sajan Mani. What are the actions should I take? Could you guide me to improve the quality of the article? Wayanadan (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 07:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Wayanadan, I only accepted the article because Sajan has got significant coversge from reliable sources like The Hindu. But I would like to ask you one question. Are you connected to the subject or have you been paid to create it. Because an admin has expressed a concern to me and bas marked it as unreviewed, which means it has to be reviewed by a New page reviewer. So, first of all, you need to rearrange the sources in an appropriate manner. Dont put all the sources together in one place as it may be misinterpreted as WP:REFBOMB. The second point is that the tone of the article slightly refelcts like a resume. Though its not a major issue here. But you need to fix that also. You have to do these two things first and please let me know if you have any concerns. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:16, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the quick reply. I am following him and his works on social media. And I am not paid for writing this article. T will try to fix refbomb issue. I tried reading some wiki article on some random individual and used that skelton to write this article. Wayanadan (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:04, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Wayanadan, it seems you have some Conflict of Interest with the subject. Its better you declare it. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:22, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I declared it in the talk:Sajan Mani. Thank you. Wayanadan (talk)

Wayanadan, please clean up the article like I suggested or it may get nominated for AFD. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 19:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kashmorwiki I added coi declaration and now it is showing its a paid article and it may delete soon. The message suggests those who edited before me might got paid for creating the article. What should I do? Previously when I wrote about CV Harris mash by referring malayalam version of wikipedia and news articles, it got approval with some grammatical correction by fellow editors. Do we can do anything like that? Wayanadan (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:11, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Wayanadan, I recommend you to go and tell the editor who has placed that tag regarding this. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Confusion regarding recent-ish decline

Hi Kichu. This is a bit belated, but I was wondering what your reasoning behind this decline was. I figure this was either an accidental decline, or you felt it was promotional, which is not the case here as this is a defunct company. Perryprog (talk) 15:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Perryprog, it was not promotional one and it was not an accident. In my view, the draft almost came under the seventh criteria listed under WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Thats why I declined it. It did not felt like an encyclopedic content. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Italy women's national football team results (2020–present)

Hi, any reason why this draft was rejected? By the way, I'm neither the creator of the draft nor the person who submitted it, but I still feel that it should be accepted. It is actually in a much better condition than most other articles in Category:National association football team results. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 18:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Nehme1499, there is no issue with the quality of the draft. But it presently have only the result of 7 matches which in my opinion is too short to have an independent article. So I thought, let the draft remain there while the Italy women's national team play some more matches and we can later move it into the mainspace. Do you have any other opinions? And if the draft had match reports of all the 7 matches, there was a chance I wwould have accepted it. Regards.Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 18:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Still, it should be made public in my opinion. One match, seven, or 200 is irrelevant, it is still presenting accurate information (matches from 2020 to present), and will potentially keep growing to have dozens of games. By the way, each match is sourced with its match report (see the ref. column at the end). Nehme₁₄₉₉ 19:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Nehme1499, so are you saying that if a team has only played one game in 10 years between 2020-2030 (just imagine), there should be an article for that? With all due respect to your opinion, I cannot agree with your logic. We cannot have an independent articles like this if it does not have enough context. Moreover, this draft is just a list of results. What I referring was the match reports which includes the main events in that match and not just list of results like this. And yes, this list will potentially grow. That is why I said let the team play some games and this can be moved into mainspace at appropriate time. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 19:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Obviously the year range would have to be adapted: if they have played 1 game between 2020 and 2030 but, say, 50 between 2010 and 2020, that game should be included in an article titled (2010-present). Also, these are list articles: why would we need to describe each game in detail? What would we do with Scotland national football team results (1872–1914) then? Describe all 113 games in detail? Nehme₁₄₉₉ 20:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

You migh want to have a look at this India national football team results (2010–2019). The complete matches of Indian team during this 10 year period have been described in detail. And in the case of India national football team results (2020–2029), only one match has been played so far like you said. But the complete schedule till september has been written in detail as much as possible, so it does not seems to be so short. In the case of Scotland national football team results (1872–1914), it dates back to matches played around 150 years back. So is it possible to get the completed details during that time.? It is 2021 now and when we create an article like this, try to make it with the minimum required details so that the readers can get a better idea abou this. Thats the reason why I mainly declined it. If it is resubmitted after making the required changes, I will definetly accept it. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:17, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Just to add my two cents here. I agree that the article needs more context but I disagree with what you mean by context. Context does not mean every match in detail, that would be WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Context means additional prose at the start of the list to explain what the Italy women's national football team is, the competitions they compete in and an overview of the results during the period. There has also been extensive discussion about the use of football box templates in these articles and it has been agreed here, here and here as well as this featured list nomination that a table should be used as it fits with MOS:LIST and WP:WHENTABLE. Hope that helps. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 08:47, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Stevie fae Scotland, thanks a lot for passing me this. These things will definetly help me to assess such articles in the near future. Once again, thankyou for this. Should I modify my comment in that draft? Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy to help. Yeah, I think modifying the comment would help clarify what is needed to get the article into mainspace. Thanks. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 12:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Stevie fae Scotland , I have pinged you there for expert opinion. Can you help me there? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 12:07, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

I will do. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 12:08, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Declining submission of Draft:Divya Gokulnath

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia, joined few days ago. Can I have your help to expand this article? Thanks in advance YogeshWarah^Talk 13:25, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Yogeshwarah. Welcome to wikipedia. Im sorry I cannot help you in this case because Im not familiar with the subject. You may ask for some help at teahouse. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:37, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

It's ok! I've expanded the article with the help of Beccaynr. Please have a look. Regards YogeshWarah^Talk 14:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, have a look at this Sivagiri Sree Narayana Senior Secondary School. I think the article fails GNG. No sources provided except this. This should go through AfD, right? YogeshWarah^Talk 04:14, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Yogeshwarah, first of all, do a WP:Before in both English and Malayalam (if you know Malayalam). If no sources are there, you may nominate it for AFD. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Anubrato Mandol

Hi, I am TTP1233, creator of this page. I read the reason why this article submission was declined. But I don't think this is an appropriate reason. There are many references which are reliable and independent sources. Also the article has NPOV. The Telegraph, Times of India, Indian Express, The Statesman are the main reliable sources which are independent. I would request you to inspect the draft again. Check the source verified if you think that there is a additional sources needed, please mark it as {{cn}}. After further review please inform me that whether is anything needed or not. After that I will do the necessary actions. I hope you will do your duty soonest. With best wishes.--TTP1233 (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello TTP1233, this draft was declined because the subject is only the district president of a political party who fails WP:BASIC. He has been neither elected as an MP or MLA or not even in any local body. So in that case, he must satisfy the general WP:GNG criteria and this person clearly fails it. Just being mentioned in some relibale and independent sources doesnt make anyone notable. The subject should have significant coverage also, where in this case, this person dont have. You might wanna have a look at WP:NPOL as well. By the way, I believe I am doing my duties well and please let me know if you have any concerns regarding this draft.Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Means a politician even if he is local party politician or big level politician, can't be considered as notable unless he would have MP or MLA. A similar example of this exists here. Biman Bose. A state politician. Anyways, this person never wants to be elected member of any legislature, even if you don't believe. Can you give me suggestions how can I make this draft better. Just for short he is notable as a general politician in West Bengal and he is famous by his thoughts which sometimes negative but made this famous in election sessions like Prasant Kishore, an IT cell manager generally known for Indian general elections and state elections. Please help me...!--TTP1233 (talk) 15:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

TTP1233, I know you are disappointed because of the draft got declined. Dont be upset. This encyclopedia works on the policy that inorder for a subject to have an independent article, it should pass GNG. The reasons like he is famous by his thoughts have no value here unless you provide reliable sources. A politician passes GNG if he/she is elected as an MLA or MP by virtue of WP:NPOL. But for other politicians like this, they must satisfy the general GNG criteria if they are not elected. If you can provide atleast one reliblae source, which gives this person the in-depth coverage (about his life, career and achievements in a biogrophical manner) or multiple sources combined giving this coverage, I might be able to help you. And regarding the other article you showed, you may nominate it for AFD if you feel it fails GNG. As an AFC reviewer, my only duty is to check whether the draft is ready to be moved into mainspace, and dont need to be concerned about similiar other articles. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:15, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Thnx for help.TTP1233 (talk) 16:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Sir, can you please help me that[29] will work. The Quint. Some information is available also check this [30].TTP1233 (talk) 17:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

TTP1233, the source from quint is just giving some incidential coverage. But the second source seems quite good. It is giving some coverage to the subject. But the problem is that many of the articles of such local politicians have been deleted in the past. I have concerns whethere this will survive at AFD. Have a looo at this [31]. A similiar article like this was deleted at AFD. Beccaynr, this source [32] seems fine. Your thoughts regarding this submission? And by the way, you dont need to call anyone sir or madam:) Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 01:08, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hmm this will work. I will add it in my draft. Then I will remove certain references which had improper format. What do you think? Thnx for helping me to for this situation.TTP1233 (talk) 02:54, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

If you think that article is just for single event, it is wrong. Since 2013 he played an important factor in big election sessions in West Bengal. Check a bunch of some sources on [33]. Though it will not work but it will be helpful I think. I am waiting for your final decision what should I do. As per your direction, I will do the needful action immediately. I have less time.TTP1233 (talk) 03:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

I am reminded of the Sindhu Joy AfD, but I am also concerned about so many Times of India references in the Controversy section, because per WP:TOI, The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It tends to have a bias in favor of the Indian government, and especially for an article about a politician, that seems problematic. Also, as a more general matter, I think it is helpful for BLPs to have a Career section, with a focus on accomplishments, and typically for the article to begin with an Early life and education section. Without this kind of content, the focus on the Controversy seems disproportionate per WP:PROPORTION, because it is currently the largest section of the article. Beccaynr (talk) 03:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

TTP1233, I think you must ask for an expert opinion at Wikiproject Indian politics. There are some editors who are more experienced than me. This will definetly help. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Why are the sources not reliable and what should I do to make them reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk • contribs) 15:05, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Why My Article was Declined

Hello Kashmorwiki,

I am confused about what is wrong with my sources, and why they are not reliable. I say this not because I think that they are the best sources ever, but because some articles like Eagles-Washington only have 1 source, and at least in my opinion it is just as reliable as mine. Could you please tell me the issues with my sources, but before you do I would like you to check the article of Eagles-Washington rivalry and some other articles just to make sure that we are on the same page.

MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk) 15:19, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello MichaelPackBrewGuy, the problem with Draft:Green Bay Packers vs. New York Giants is that the sources you provided are just a bunch of list of results of the games between these two teams. That is not sufficient to establish notability. The article must have atleast one reliable source, giving enough significant coverage between the rivalry between these two teams. Please provide such kind of source (like this [34]) and I will try my best to accept the draft for you. The rest seems fine. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kashmorwiki,

Can you give me advice on what kind of source I need to add?

MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk) 15:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

MichaelPackBrewGuy, see this one by BR [35]. This is giving lot of coverage of the rivarly between these two teams. We need sources like that. What you provided are just some results and most of of them are not saying that these two are rivals. The people who follow these games might know about this great rivalry. But some people from east like me, who dont follow American football dont have the idea about these things. So how will we verify that this rivalry actually exist.? That is the reason why this encyclopedia works on the basis of verifiability. You must provide the sources to verify these things that you wrote in the article. I hope you will find them and will add it into the draft. Please come to me after that and we can have a look at it. Wishing all the best. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:40, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kashmorwiki,

Thank you for the source! I guess I understand that most of my sources are just about the games. I just want to make sure that if I add this final source that the article will be submitted.

MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk) 15:44, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear friend MichaelPackBrewGuy, I just showed you an example. This source alone is not sufficient for GNG. You need to add more sources. Then the article might pass. I dont have an idea about American football. Otherwise,I would have helped you finding sources. I reviewed because this draft showed up at Wikiproject football, which is actually for association football. I recommend you to seek help from other users at Wikipedia:WikiProject American football Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:49, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kashmorwiki,

Oh, Okay. I have seen other sources that I am not positive if they work or not. Can you check these, https://www.packers.com/news/point-counterpoint-are-the-giants-the-packers-new-rival-8887885 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1023719-giants-packers-storied-playoff-history I hope that if these sources are fine that the article may be submitted. I still am a little confused why an article like Eagles-Washington would be submitted, but I will do whatever I can to get my article submitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk • contribs) 15:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kashmorwiki,

Yeah, that was my fault that it landed in the soccer category. I was typing out football and I thought I got the right thing, but I realized later that it ended up being soccer. I just didn't know how to delete it.

MichaelPackBrewGuy (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

MichaelPackBrewGuy, The sources you added seems fine, but no so good. Like I said, I had no intention to review this draft. But when it got showed up at association football category, where Im an expert,I picked it. When I went through the sources in your draft just out of curiosity, I found they were just some results from the matches, so I declined it logically. In reality, I have zero knowledge about American football, so I recommend you to ask for some help from an experienced member of Wikiproject American football. Try to improve the draft and come to me, then I will have a look. Im really sorry I cannot review this draft at the present moment. You are almost there. You just need to do some more work. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Article Declined

Hi, this article has been declined Draft:Shadab_Siddiqui by you, can you tell me why you declined the article? the singer and filmmaker is passing on the notability and has been featured in almost all Indian newspapers and news websites such as Times of India and Hindustan Times as a director. He is passing WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC can you tell me which article you think is bad? leaving some of the links for you to check.

ANI News is a Indian number 1 news channel who has been talking about Shadab Siddiquihttps://www.aninews.in/news/business/chandan-saxena-gearing-up-for-the-release-of-his-new-song-pal-pal20190716144430/ https://www.zee5.com/zee5news/reem-abhishek-nigam-featuring-music-video-tum-bin-directed-by-shadab-siddiqui-is-out-now https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/photography-has-always-fascinated-me-says-director-shadab-siddiqui/articleshow/79368391.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Static Hash (talk • contribs) 17:15, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Static Hash, yes he has been feautured in these reputed sources. But none of them is giving him the enough in-depth coverage to establish WP:GNG like you said. Regarding WP:NMUSIC, there are 12 criterias under which a subject can come in and I dont think this person is coming under any of it. WP:NMUSIC also says that the Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings are not considered to establish GNG. Most of the sources you provided here comes under this. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 17:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, he has done three films Gulmakai, Where is Najeeb and Jai Shree Ram indian film, all are having significant coverage of him.

https://www.cinetalkers.com/gul-makai-movie-review-too-many-flaws-ruins-the-otherwise-inspirational-story-on-the-silver-screen/ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/movie-reviews/gul-makai/movie-review/73775845.cms https://hindi.news18.com/news/entertainment/youtube-ajaz-khan-new-song-pal-pal-went-viral-on-social-media-3320031.html https://www.business-standard.com/content/press-releases-ani/reem-abhishek-nigam-featuring-music-video-tum-bin-directed-by-shadab-siddiqui-is-out-now-121030300793_1.html http://muslimmirror.com/eng/short-film-where-is-najeeb-to-be-released-on-26th-jan/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Static Hash (talk • contribs) 17:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Static Hash, you should have given these sources in the draft itself rather than showing it here. An AFC reviewer will only analyse the sources given in the article. Even though I still dont these sources are sufficient to pass GNG. The following is my analysis of these sources.

• This[36] is about the movie, not about this person.
• This[37] is also the same.
• This[38] is basically about the song
• This[39] is also about a release of a song.
• This[40] is about a movie.

I hope you are clear. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 17:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hello, lemme know whether this (Draft:Prithviraj Productions) draft is notable or not? And what about the sources I've attached? Could you please check that? Regards ProudMallu (📨│📝) 05:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, ther is no issue with notability or sigcov. I will accept the draft if you submit it after little bit of expansion. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, I've added more content. Is it okay now to publish? ProudMallu (📨│📝) 06:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, I saw no other issues now. You can sumbit it now so that I can have a look at it. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:49, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, Submitted. Please watch. Thank you so much. ProudMallu (📨│📝) 06:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, it seems there is technical issue. This article was deleted once due to notability issues and was redirected into Prithviraj Sukumaran. See [41]. Now the subject is notable and deserves an independent article. So you may dicsuss this issue with an admin or the editor who closed the [42] discussion. Im not that much experienced in dealing with situations like this. I am still learning things. When the problem is fixed, you can come to me. I will accept it. But I think there is no need for a seperate draft now when we already have a article by that name. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I've already placed undeletion request in the undeletion area. And they told me to create a draft on same. And the same was also discussed in Tea house 5 days ago. I got the same answer from there too ProudMallu (📨│📝) 07:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

They also told me that, the admin or reviewer will request for history merge in the previous redirected page. ProudMallu (📨│📝) 07:23, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, you may please contact Oshwah. He will definetly help. I am really confused here. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I've send him a message. Can you please go through Priya Prakash Varrier, which was submitted by me. This same situation was happened there too. And earlier, the page was redirected to Oru Adaar Love. ProudMallu (📨│📝) 07:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Have a look at this and this. Thank you ProudMallu (📨│📝) 07:42, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

ProudMallu, I got it. Like I said, Im not really experienced in cases like this. Im afraid I that I might make an error. Please wait for Oshwah's reply. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:54, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! What exactly needs to be histmerged? Prithviraj Productions to Prithviraj Sukumaran? What is it that you're trying to do? Move Draft:Prithviraj Productions to Prithviraj Productions? I just need to confirm what it is you're trying to do and what I need to do... :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

This is in response to the (Draft: Brandon Shimoda) page being rejected: I could not figure out how to respond to your message to confirm that I was not paid or compensated in any way to create this page. Please let me know what else I can do to make it a more valid page. Sierrafoltz (talk) 04:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Sierrafoltz, first of all, please open a new thread while starting a new discussion. This will get archived soon at any moment. Now lets come to the point. I havent said that you were paid to create this. You have provided only 3 sources in the draft out of which, two of them are just a list of awards. Another one is a list of books published by this person. That is not sufficient to establish GNG. The subject should be covered in-depth in multiple relibale sources to have an independent article, where in this case, it clearly fails to do it. Thats why I declined it. Please provide some good sources and we can have a try. Hope you understood. Please let me know of you have any concerns. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Héctor Suazo

According to Soccerway, yes, he has. GiantSnowman 07:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

On its final works.Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, Soccerway is considered reliable and widely used. GiantSnowman 09:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Pablo Martinez

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LBLM9253, the player has only made one apperance. Thats why I commented that its a case of TOOSOON. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Help

Thank you for reviewing an article I added. Not sure why you determined that the sources are not enough. Would you kindly help me out? The page was created for filmmaker Ziad H Hamzeh. Many thanks, Bash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bash1997 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Bash1997, the sources you provided are some movie reviews and all. None of them is giving the enough significant coverage to the subject to establish WP:GNG. Please add some sources which gives independent coverage to the subject. Then it may pass. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello!!!

Kichu, I wanted to ask about the discretionary sanctions notification that I received. Was it because I had asked an enquiry in the talk page of a sensitive issue (I had enquired about the neutrality of th article about Love Jihad)???. I am not able to understand the "Discretionary Sanctions". Please help...Thanks AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 08:40, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Aarya, if you meant this [43], there is no issue if you share your opinion in the talk page in an appropriate manner. The notice you recieved clearly says that It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date. So its just for giving you a precaution. Because topics related to religion and all are very sensitive and you have to be careful while dealing with them. If you make any major changes to such articles, its very important that you provide the best reliable sources available. This notice is given to all the users like you who shows interest in such articles. You dont need to worry. Like I said, this is just a precautionary notice. Keep up your work, contribute to this encyclopedia the best way you can, learn things slowly and help the new users. Happy editing. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:03, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much Kichu!!! I was worried what was happening... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 09:07, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Vidar Halldorsson

Hello! My draft has been returned for not meeting the standards, which I understand is normal. But I want to understand what specifically is the matter. Another user pointed to me, for instance, that on regards of Dr. Viðar's book, I should use footnotes that refer to peer review of his research (I haven't gotten around to that yet, but it should be easy). But I wonder if there's anything else that "jumps to your eyes" as out of place, so I can work on that. Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMilanezi (talk • contribs) 09:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

MMilanezi, the only major problem in that draft is that the person is not getting enough significant coverage to have an article of his own. This is one of the core policies of this encyclopedia. I kindly request you to have a look at WP:GNG, understand the policies and modify the draft according to that. Let me know if you have any concerns. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Pawan Kumar Joshi

 Done GiantSnowman 12:39, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

feed back for SuanShu

Hello,

Thank you for reviewing SuanShu. I wonder if you could give me feedback on improving the wiki so it can be accepted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SuanShu

I wrote the article following the same pattern as the other wiki page on a similar topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exp4j

I am not sure why Exp4j was accepted but SuanShu is not...

Could you help me please?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.180.28.150 (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello 101.180.28.150. I declined the draft because it slightly comes under WP:NOTGUIDE within Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. It clearly says The purpose of Wikipedia is to present facts, not to teach subject matter. Articles should not read like textbooks, with leading questions and systematic problem solutions as examples. Regarding the other article you shown, that was created in 2013 and it was not created via AFC. It was directly created. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:46, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your feedback on SuanShu. It is most helpful. We will amend the article accordingly per your comments.

On another note, can you let us know what it means by "created via AFC vs. directly created"? How can we create an article directly please?

101.180.28.150, AFC means Articles For Creation, where reviewers like me will review the drafts and determines whether it is suitable for inclusion into this encyclopedia. If it is suitable, we will accept it and move into mainspace from the draftspace. By directly creating means, you can create it using the red link method. First o all, you have to search for the article you wish to create in the search box to verify whether there is already an article by the same name. If there is no such article, a red link will appear. When you click on that red link, a new page will appear with an option to create an article and you can create it. But this is only recommended for experienced editors. If your article is not according to our guidelines, it will get deleted or move into draftspace soon or later depending on certain factors. Sometimes other users wont notice this and it may remain in mainspace for a long time. It might take hours, weeks, months maybe years to get deleted. But it will be deleted someday for sure, if it still violates our guidelines. That is the reason why we have an option called AFC to create new articles. This guarantees the creator that the chances of their article getting deleted is very less. I hope you are clear. You may still have doubt with some terms. Feel free to ask. For more information, you can see this. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:16, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Submission declined on 17 March 2021 - Draft Pawan Kumar Joshi

Dear Kashmorwiki,

Greetings.

I am writing this message to you in reference to the post that you had left on the article that I had written on Pawan Kumar Joshi. Let me start by thanking you for reviewing my article promptly and also leaving a note which gave me a better understanding as to why the article was declined.

I have read the hyperlinks that you had posted on the note. While writing my article I have tried to use reliable sources like famous websites or websites that are visited frequently by users. This article is about an Indian footballer who was not much in the news, therefore, I could not get any website links which mentioned he has signed for that particular club, but there are articles in the paper which shows either he is in the team or scored a goal or played a match for the team. These articles were written for the club he played for rather than himself. So there is only a line mentioned on him. Please let me know whether referencing these articles were the problem ?

I have come up with a solution, I am thinking to remove all paragraphs from the article and just keep the paragraph of Sudeva FC. Because I have solid links (I league website) to support that paragraph ? Will this be okay ? (But again, these links will be showing he is in the starting 11, or been substituted.)

Once again I thank you for reviewing my article and also looking forward to hear from you regarding the same.

Thanks in advance for all the help ! Much love !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballgini (talk • contribs) 08:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Footballgini, Im sorry for the late reply. I was on a wikibreak. This player is actually notable as he has made 3 appearances in I League. But unfortunately, there are no sources to prove that and I declined the draft just to avoid the backlog and to let you know that, reliable source need to be shown to establish his notability. If you can show me any reliable sources to prove that he has made some appearances, I can easily accept this draft. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Kichu for your reply. I hope you are feeling good after your wikibreak. Its good to see you back . Let me know if his player profile in ESPN can be considered as a reliable source. The profile in ESPN mentions the matches he has started and also the match where he was used as a substitute. Moreover, if need be I can provide links from goal.com where the starting line up is mentioned for a particular match. I am also attaching a link from goal.com for a match between Aizwal FC and Sudeva FC where the starting line up is mentioned. He plays in defense and his jersey number is 2.

Footballgini, I think ESPN is a reliable one if Im right. Anyway I need to confirm it. I will let you know. And if you have source from soccerway, yoi dont need anything else! Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:59, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I have his player profile from Soccerway (stating his total appearances in I-league) Does this help ? I have attached the link for your reference. Thanks ! 10:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)Footballgini (talk)Footballgini

Footballgini, the article has been finally moved into mainspace. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 12:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much ! Cheers ! Footballgini (talk) 14:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Please check this draft

Please check this draft... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dev_Mohan Appreciate it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by OparKagunawa (talk • contribs) 14:42, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply! It is now all clear. We will work on the article per your suggestions!

OparKagunawa,  Done Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:09, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Deepinder Goyal Draft

I came across Draft of Deepinder Goyal. I've seen that you've declined it and the reason was you have concerns over significant coverage, Have you tried searching over google? He's the CEO of Zomato and a self made billionaire, My search gave me a lot of results. I wanted to learn about your perspective of Significant coverage, earlier on a AfD of Qazi Shibli and Burhaan Kinu, You called trivial mentions as significant and this as insignificant. This is not a PA, but i'd just like to learn what is your POV on SIGCOV. -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 19:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi Jammumylove, the article creator asked me to review Draft:Deepinder Goyal., and I am working on it. Kichu declined the article because "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources," and my first edits have included removing sources that do not appear to be reliable - I have left notes in the edit summaries, and I plan to explain more in detail on my Talk page after I finish my review. Cheers, Beccaynr (talk) 23:36, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jammumylove, as an AFC reviewer, my only duty is to check whether the sources provided in the article makes it pass GNG. And I dont need to do a WP:Before. Even though I had helped in some drafts (where the topic is comfortable for me) by doing WP:Before, improve the article as I can by adding better sources and accept it. I know this person is the owner of Zomato. Does that alone make him notable? This encylpedia does not works like that. We need him to pass WP:GNG. I already commented my concerns in that draft and you can read that. Most of the sources are talking about the company Zomato rather than this person. Thats why I declined it. And Im sure that Beccaynr will fix these issues and resubmit it, after which I will accept it for sure. And I dont have something like my own POV in SIGCOV. I just simply follow this encyclopedia's POV on SIGCOV! Regarding Burhaan Kinu, I havent said he has got significant coverage. I said he passes WP:ANYBIO. See [44] what I said. In the case of Qazi Shibli, where did I said he is getting significant coverage. Can you show it here? When you say like you did this, you did that, you should provide proofs in the form of diffs. Hope you understood. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 01:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I found this a challenge to research, including because it seems possible that some of the top results are from unreliable and paid/PR-style sources due to SEO manipulation. But there are reliable news sources, despite also being buried under extensive routine coverage of Goyal in the context of the company, and I plan to make more of a summary on my Talk page about it after some rest. Beccaynr (talk) 03:15, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Beccaynr, That is the reason why I declined this at the place. And Beccaynr, I want to bring a serious matter into your attention. You must see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phoenix man. This user who requested your help is almost confirmed as a sock. Do you remember Abhivadhyah, who launched personal attack against me. This is the same user. Abhivadhyah was warned several times for undisclosed paid editing. And the article Divya S. Iyer which you rescued was created by his/her sock. So this article is also just a part of PR work. So dear Beccanyr, please be more precautious. This user might have already created another account ( I think I have found 2 of them. But I cannot disclose them as it will be considered as personal attack). My humble request to you is that if any new users are requesting for your help with any drafts or if you spot any new users with similiar editing behaviour, I want you to bring them into my attention. Its better if you double check on them. Hope you understood. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:10, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki, so you confirmed that Phoenix man is me!? That's sounds great. Alright, I know what to do next. YogeshWarah^Talk 04:40, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Its not me who almost confirmed it. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phoenix man and see the checkusers comment. And I havent confirmed it. I just said its almost confirmed. You may tell your concerns there. Not here. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Kichu, I understand what you are saying, but you may want to edit your larger comment above to make it more clear that you mean "almost confirmed." Beccaynr (talk) 05:33, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Beccaynr,did you saw the SPI. CU says its prolikely. This user is also suspected on other SPI. Ooh, I think I know what this is. Yogeshwarah tags lots of schools for deletion, which is what Phoenix man likes to do – and lo and behold, they and Logical Puzzle are also filed as suspected socks there; this comment is from another SPI. See this Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wahhid. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:39, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I am finding all of this a bit confusing, but I suppose that is how these investigations sometimes go as they develop. I think it could be more clear to refer to the investigations and limit discussion of the details here, so the full discussions take place in the appropriate forums. You have already been through so much, and I make my suggestion with the idea to protect you from further stress and distraction. Beccaynr (talk) 05:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes Beccaynr. I have been already through a lot. Let the investigation takes place as it is and I will continue doing my job. Still, I want you to remember about my precaution. Lot of paid/pr articles might get submitted at AFC. They may seek help from you. Like I said you must double check the submitter first. I hope you wont ever get attacked or harrassed by such users. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, and I promise that I will remember. Beccaynr (talk) 06:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Please review

Many thanks for your guidance. All the Arabic sources are feature articles (independent reliable sources) including Aljazeera. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bash1997 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Bash1997, there are no improvements in the draft at present state. Please add some reliable sources. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello

I read your Profile....Are you from CUSAT?? Kalamassery?? AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 15:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, yes Im a 2020 graduate from there. You know anyone there? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Do you know one George Mathew (principal)....The principal and Rohan George???? They are our family friends... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 03:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, the thing is that, I was not in the Main Campus. So I might dont know about these persons. I might have seen them. But dont have an idea regarding their names:) By the way, did you graduated? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:41, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

No I had graduated my BTech on civil engineering from Toch...now I'm doing my second year Mtech in Kothamanagalam.... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 03:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

But I know Them as George Mathew uncle is my fathers close friend... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 03:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Aarya, Whatever it is, good luck with your academics my dear friend. I hope you will always remain as an active wikipedian here and I wish we will meet some day in real life. My request to you is that, users like you should not leave this project. I have seen some users who leaves after few months. I hope yours wont be the same case. Stay here and you will enjoy it. In case you want me to know I am, I am sorry that I cannot reveal it here. I also wanted to know the same. May be you can e-mail me or there are other some ways to do so. And I think this is your real name itself:) Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:51, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

But is there an option to chane my username....I had just entered my name when they asked my name....Later only did I know that it would appear as my name itself...Are you Afsal??? AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 04:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes we can change our username accordinf to guidelines. But I think you are ok with this name seems fine? And who the hell is Afsal:) Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?}

Draft:Anubrata Mondal

Thank you for your comments. But there are less TOI references so there will be no issue I believe. But still I will find the same reference but in other sources. The Hindu is a good source. So let me check the resources. And this guy has got much notable press coverage. One point I don't want to mention is that he has major controversy on 2013 West Bengal panchayat elections. I also mentioned some book resources as well. TTP1233 (talk) 06:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Also I want to ask you that shall I add external videos on reference, if possible. TTP1233 (talk) 06:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

TTP1233, there are chances that this will pass. I recommend you to discuss this matter with Beccaynr. Let me see what he says. He is a real expert regarding these kind of issues. And you dont need to add external links. Its not compulsory. You can add if you want, but it should not look promotional. Good luck Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:49, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Towcester Town Draft

Hi there! Thank you very much for reviewing the draft for the Towcester Town Football Club Wikipedia page. The feedback was well welcomed and work will be done to improve the draft so that it can hopefully be approved next time. I just have a question:

Firstly, another team in Towcester Town's league, Stoney Stratford FC, have a Wiki page. Not only does this Wikipedia page have less references than the draft for Towcester, but several of the references come from sources that can no longer be accessed, and therefore verified. How come this page was approved, while Towcester's wasn't? Here is a link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stony_Stratford_Town_F.C.

Any feedback will be appreciated! I look forward to your response.

Gread1996 (talk) 17:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Gread1996, first of all, this article was created back in 2006. I exactly dont know what were our notability guides for football clubs back then. As per our current GNG criteria, I think this club is not notable. But I am also not sure about it because English Football League system is little bit complex.As per WP:FOOTYN criteria Efor English clubs, a club that play or have played at step 6 of the National League System (level 10 of the English football league system), or in the FA Cup, FA Trophy, FA Amateur Cup or FA Vase generally meet WP:GNG criteria. I dont know whether this club has played in any of these in the past. Like I said, English football system is very difficult to understand and presently learning it gradually. As per the present sources, I think this club fails GNG. So I recommend you to contact someone who is and expert in English football. And good luck with your draft by the way. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 17:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hi Kashmorwiki. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:

• Be nice to new editors. They are usually not aware that they are doing anything wrong. Do make use of the message feature when tagging pages for maintenance so that they are aware.
• You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted. Please be formal and polite in your approach to them – even if they are not.
• If you are not sure what to do with a page, don't review it – just leave it for another reviewer.
• Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page. Use the message feature to communicate with article creators and offer advice as much as possible.

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 15:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Rosguill for this. I hope I can do the best. And I saw that this is a trial run. Does that mean that this right will expire after a month and I need to reapply for it? Or will my performance be evaluated after a month to decide whether to grant this right permanently or to revoke it? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 19:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

The rights will expire automatically, at which point you can reapply. Feel free to file the re-application a few days before it expires. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:13, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

An Elephant poo for you!

	April Fools!
	Hahaha Beccaynr (talk) 02:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Beccaynr, I thought I blocked you:) Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 02:22, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, and once I recovered from the surprise, I realized that only poo would do for a reply :) Beccaynr (talk) 02:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

and I just realized that you archived the original Elephant for you, so the context is missing! Beccaynr (talk) 02:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Beccaynr, its automatic archiving. I dont have to do anything. Bot will do:) Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Puaada article copied by website

Hi!, This is to inform you that the website has copied whole of the article from Wikipedia, so it is the other way around, they have copied not us. Please read and you will discern. Just see, it is word by word our article, which was created on 12 March. Whereas website article is of 13 March. You should have verified the contents before reverting. Thanks Rickyurs (talk) 09:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Rickyurs, thank you for letting me know this. I am currently on trial run as a NPP reviewer and is gaining experience to rectify this type of mistakes. Thank you for your feedback. I will be more aware from now onwards. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:52, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kashmorwiki:, you are doing a great job. In very short time you have gained good experience. Everyone learns by experience. Have a gala time on Wikipedia! Regards. Rickyurs (talk) 10:06, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

"Dhruva College of Management" page not to be deleted

Hi Kichu,

Good Afternoon.

The "Dhruva College of Management" page is a valid one and User:Vikram Vincent has nominated it for deletion on the discussiojn page "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2021_March_28". Please do not delete the page as it is an authentic one. Moreover, the User:Vikram Vincent has mentioned that I have a close connection to the subject. I am just a passionate online editor by hobby and my wiki referencing happened to be unauthentic as I am not a trained editor of wiki pages.

If you take a look on the page "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2021_March_28", the User:Vikram Vincent has been grumpy over other wiki users also w.r.t. the deletion of "Sunder Deep Group of Institutions" on the same page. He seems to be a new user who is closely monitoring all the wiki pages. In that cases, many wiki pages will closedown due to his behavior and we may not have pages left in wiki in due course.

Therefore, please do not delete "Dhruva College of Management" page as per the nomination/decision made on the page: "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2021_March_28"

Thanks and Regards

GrandEditor2017 GrandEditor2017 (talk) 08:46, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello GrandEditor2017, if you are sure that this article you are referring is authentic one, you can argue to keep it in the AFD discussion with valid reasons. And unlike you said, Vincentvikram is an experienced user and Im impressed with his knowledge regarding our notability guidleines. We cannot keep here any of the articles which clearly fails GNG. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:54, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kashmorwiki Thanks for the ping. Hi GrandEditor2017 I noticed that more than one editor has mentioned that you may have a COI. For example, this. There was a proposed deletion here and and a previous AFD nomination. Please read WP:NSCHOOLS which is a specific category related to institutional notability. Feel free to improve the page using WP:RS. The sources you used appeared to be advertisements, press releases, based on primary sources, etc which are not RS. Feel free to participate in the AFD and show why the institution is notable. Best! Vikram Vincent 11:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 20:41:30, 4 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 24.101.83.131

• 24.101.83.131 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Naoki Terada (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello!

Thank you for taking the time to read my message.

My name is Stephen and I am working on behalf of the publisher of this article.

I was wondering if you could give me some specific reasons or advice on why this article has been denied? I have been working with the person who wants to publish this article for quite a while now and every time we submit the article it seems to get rejected and I have run out of ideas on how to fix it to make it Wikipedia worthy.

Sorry for bothering you with this, but hope to hear back from you soon.

Thank you!

24.101.83.131 (talk) 20:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Kichu may be busy and unable to reply quickly, but you can also ask questions at the Articles For Creation Help Desk - Beccaynr (talk) 21:01, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello 24.101.83.131. I am sorry for a late reply. I was so busy in the real life like never before. The problem with your draft is that it is not written in an encyclopedic tone. It reads like a resume and is also not written from a neutral point of view. Please have a look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and tell me whether you have any concerns and queries. And thanks a lot dear Beccaynr. Im glad that you have an eye over me. The same goes here also! Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing

Hi Kashmorwiki, Thanks for reviewing my article. I see you flagged my article about Moirangthem Nilamani Singh a couple of times. Originally, most of the article was written based on his book published in Manipur. Most of that content has been removed unless backed up by a second source. I made many changes. I see from your profile that you are a regular Wikipedia editor and contributor. This is my first article on Wikipedia so far, so if there are still issues, I'd appreciate it if you can specifically point out which portions of text to change. Thanks again for your time!! Cheers MMachal

Thank you for the appreciation Mmachal. Since this article is a BLP, its important that itm must have reliable in-line citations. Most of the sources in the draft were about the books rather than the subject. I even tried a WP:Before to find some sources because the article is well written. But unfortunately, it have not that much reliable sources. If you can provide some sources giving him in-depth coverage, it will definetely pass. Good luck. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 18:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kichu, Thanks for the advice. Hopefully the newest revision works. Thanks again for taking the time to review. Cheers MMachal Mmachal (talk) 06:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 21:28:04, 5 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 24.101.83.131

• 24.101.83.131 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Naoki Terada (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for getting back to me and sharing the link, I will have a look and see if I can revise the article more. I do want to say that the Japanese version of this article was approved, it's just the English version we are having trouble with, is there a reason for this?

24.101.83.131 (talk) 21:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

24.101.83.131, can you provide me a link to the Japanese version so that I can have a look at it. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello

What happened Kichu, are you unwell??? I noticed your message in your userpage... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 12:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Arya for showing your concerns over my situation and Im really glad to hear this. I know this is not a place to share anything personal in detail. But since you asked, I think I must share this with you. I hope are aware that I'm a fresher Marine Engineer who just got passed out from college and thanks to Corona virus, I havent got any job yet. So I had to look up for some temporary job to give support to my family in the best way I can. Thus I ended up in a place where I have to look after its accounts. I have to start the job at 5:45 am ( So I need to wake up around 4:45 am) and will come to end between 6:30-7:00 PM. During the job as I have to directly go and check on the goods. Most of the time, I am not even able to sit. So its really a tough job as I need to take so much strain continuosly for around 13 hrs with a short lunch break. Thats why I left that note. But Im trying the maximum to give my best to this project as I considers this as a part of my daily life. Anyway, I dont think my parents will let me continue this stressful job. They are asking me to quit. Lets see whats gonna happen. By the way you still havent replied to my question on your talk page. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay, That is an issue that Maybe I'll also face after passing Mtech....I understand Kichu, Marine Engineering has so many scopes and opportunities, I'm sure you'll be able to succeed in it... Let's hope for the best. AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 15:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks AARYA SAJAYAN. I wish you activate your email ID so that we can have a more friendly chat. Here I will be automatically behaving so formal. Im get used to it. Please let me know if you are activating your mail Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 15:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Kichu the problem is that I own only have an official mail from our college, otherwise I use WhatsApp.... AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 01:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN, I dont whether we have any other means to communicate. One thing that I know is discord Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Why deletion tag P. K. Firos

Can you help/improve this content Msp7com (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Msp7com, the subject fails WP:NPOL as well as WP:GNG.The same article was deleted after going through AFD process and you created it again. Thats why I tagged it with CSD. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:38, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

This page should not be speedily deleted because this article for notability person biography , he was also member in Indian Union Muslim league and general secretary of Muslim youth league he also indian lawyer and  He is the selected UDF candidate to contest for the Member of Kerala Legislative Assembly seat from Tanur constituency

He is Indian politician of Indian Union Muslim League

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/iuml-releases-list-of-candidates/article34053385.ece

He is Indian politician of Indian Union Muslim League

 

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/iuml-releases-list-of-candidates/article34053385.ece

 

He currently Editor-in-Chief 'Swathanthra Karshakan' Magazine https://find.uoc.ac.in/Record/ch.6734He currently serves as president of Swathanthra Karshaka Sangham Kerala State  He is the selected UDF candidate to contest for the Member of Legislative Assembly seat from Tirur constituency

 

https://thehinduimages.com/details-page.php?id=144433764&highlights=SWATHANTHRA%2520KARSHAKA%2520SANGHAM

https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/cpm-attempts-for-backdoor-appointments-in-calicut-university-alleges-youth-league-1.5073986 https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2019/feb/06/muslim-youth-league-uses-cpm-mlas-letter-to-corner-ruling-party-1934866.html https://malayalam.oneindia.com/news/kerala/muslim-youth-league-office-bearers-pk-firos-samastha-154796.html https://www.thecue.in/topic/pk-firos https://malayalam.indianexpress.com/kerala-news/pk-firos-lashes-out-at-nambi-narayanan-on-award-controversy/ https://www.manoramaonline.com/news/latest-news/2021/02/06/fund-misappropriation-allegation-pk-firos-challenges-kt-kaleel.html https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/iuml-releases-list-of-candidates/article34053385.ece https://malayalam.oneindia.com/news/malappuram/pk-firos-speedy-forwards-in-election-campaign-he-says-udf-will-win-in-tanur-constituency-285217.html https://malayalam.samayam.com/local-news/malappuram/video-of-pk-firoz-against-kt-jaleel/videoshow/81543837.cms https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/probe-against-youth-league-leader-pk-firos-on-plaint-for-forging-documents-1.3553346

Msp7com (talk) 08:04, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Msp7com, you are still repeating the same things without reading WP:NPOL. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hi, can you help making delition review request for this. It was rejected here.[45] Heba Aisha (talk) 04:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Heba Aisha, it seems your arguments in that AFD were almost right. And I think it must have been relisted before deleting it as there were no consensus to delete. If the subject's notability is borderline and enough contents, but is not written in encyclopedic tone (written like essay or ad), it should be cleaned up or moved into draftspace rather than deleting. Like you said, this nomination might be done on bad faith by a sock. So first of all, my suggestion for you is to contact the closing admin Spartaz and tell your concern. Thats the procedure on non controversial AFD closures. If you believe you can develop this draft into a better article by adding more contents and better sources, request the admin for a draftification. If your request got accepted, I will also support for a draftification when it is reopend for more discussions. Then you can improve the draft and submit it for review. After doing so, you can let me know so that I can review it to see whether it is ready to be moved into draftspace. I think Spartaz might reopen this discussion. Because they reopened this [46] one after a request [47] on their talk page. Good luck with this. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:54, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you again for getting back to me and sorry for bothering you so much. I talked with the person I am working on this with and after telling her that maybe more sources were needed she found some other similar articles with fewer sources that were passed, would you know why these passed and our's have not?

Here are the 2 articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arata_Isozaki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazutoshi_Sat%C5%8D

Thank you! Hello 24.101.83.131, first of all, please make sure you are signing your comments and please open a new thread while starting a new discussion so that I can easily find it. Also provide me the link of the draft you are referring to. Because some IP users have been mixing up with their queries across different threads on my talk page. So Im getting confused here. Can you please provide me the link of the draft you are referring so that I can have a look at it? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Naoki Terada - New thread

Hello! My apologies for mixing up the questions, I'm kind of new to this chat interface haha.

Here is my previous question for reference:

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Hello! Thank you again for getting back to me and sorry for bothering you so much. I talked with the person I am working on this with and after telling her that maybe more sources were needed she found some other similar articles with fewer sources that were passed, would you know why these passed and our's have not?

Here are the 2 articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arata_Isozaki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazutoshi_Sat%C5%8D -----------

Regarding the link to our draft, please find it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Naoki_Terada

Thank you!

Hello 24.101.83.131, the main problem with your draft is that all the 41 sources provided in it are actually mainly talking about his company or something else. We cannot have an BLP article (Biography of a Living Person) in this condition. Inorder for a subject to have an independent article of its own, it must pass WP:GNG criteria. The subject should recieve significant coverage from reliable sources. You dont need to provide 40 plus unreliable sources here. It is actually called REFBOMBING. So my suggestion for you is that, try to add atleast two or three sources which gives him significant coverage or combine multiple sources to get it. And in the award sections, you can add any relible sources to verify it. Here there is no need for sigcov. We just need to verify that he actually won that award. And the final advice is that, write the article in encyclopedic tone. Your draft currently seems like a resume to me. Read some other similiar articles and try to improve your draft on the basis of that. You can always ask for any help or advice from my side. I am always here to help unless god has some other plans. But Im unable to help you to expand this draft as Im not familiar with the subject. The best thing you could do is to seek help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan from someone. Good luck with your draft. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 17:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Penderecki String Quartet

Greetings Kashmorwiki. Thank you for looking at the page I made.

I read the guide on context and am none the wiser. In what specific way does this page need more context?

I modeled the page on existing pages about string quartets, like this one on the Takács Quartet.

I do not know if it is relevant, but a number of pages already mention the Penderecki String Quartet but without a link, like Wilfrid_Laurier_University, Füsun Köksal etc. I was planning on adding links to these once this quartet page was approved.

Best regards Erichschlaikjer (talk) 06:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Erichschlaikjer. The article Takács Quartet is giving an idea about the history of the subject till the present state. But in the case of Draft:Penderecki String Quartet, the history is too short. The important details like the major works by them, any awards if they have won, their growth through years etc are not present in it. Try to make it little bit more detail so the readers will have an idea about this subject.If done so,this draft is a sure pass. Good luck and regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Please contribute your review to it

@Koshmorwiki, I saw Gur Sidhu, which has been accepted by NPR. I have used a little writing style of Gur Sidhu in Draft:Jassa Dhillon. But Jassa Dhillon passes musical notability Please contribute your contribution to the review. 223.238.199.26 (talk) 14:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me again! Here is the link to the Japanese article that was approved. The article we have now in English is basically the same, just translated with some changes added to make it less like a resume.

Link -> https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%BA%E7%94%B0%E5%B0%9A%E6%A8%B9

223.238.199.26, please provide me the link of your draft also. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 01:24, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello 223.238.199.26, there is no problem is with GNG from my look. But some sources in the articles seems like paid ones. Lets leave that aside. Other sources when combined makes this singer notable. But can you make the draft little bit more encyclopedic? It actually reads like a resume so that I cannot accept it. There are no other issues as of now. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:06, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me!

Here is the English link you were asking for:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Naoki_Terada — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.101.83.131 (talk) 19:06, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

24.101.83.131, from this, what I can say is that the sources in the draft are not sufficient for it to pass GNG. They are just not giving enough sigcov to the subject. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki, Maybe sources are of work - [48], [49], [50], and [51]. The first and second source covers the notability of music, as the second source is Spotify (referring about singing) then maybe it may be of work. Third Source is of Apple Music India's "Top 100 songs" and the third Spotify's "Top Hits Punjabi" can be used in Career Section. I think so many sources are enough. 27.63.105.155 (talk) 06:36, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks 😊 Kashmorwiki. I have suggested some source. 27.63.105.155 (talk) 07:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

The Eastern Herald article

How can we improve the article The Eastern Herald?

Please help...

Hello, 103.92.41.201. Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages (not article pages) with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp. Now, can I get the link of the draft you are referring to Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 10:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Bro Daniel Rai

Hello. In a recent edit, you have applied general notability tag on it which I believe should not be done Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world and our policy is to help Wikipedia articles and create article better. It's safe to say you have no idea on that topic. Kindly please don't add tag again.

If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on @bursubba (talk) 16:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Let me know the final result of the sock, phoenix man ? I'm still on suspected list. Please help. Thank you YogeshWarah^Talk 05:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Yogeshwarah. It is currently waiting for an administrator review. There is plenty of backlog on SPI cases. So it might take some time. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello

It may feel stupid, but you know me!! I am ആര്യ....I felt to ashamed and public as I had my name as my username...just wanted to let you know...(try not to make it public😝😝)....I had a feeling that I'm too exposed here so I changed it....okay Kichu Aarieesa (talk) 13:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Aarieesa welcome again. From now onwards you should not use that one unless you declare it. I hope you got the point. Right? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

👍👍👍 Yes kichu[User:Aarieesa|Aarieesa]] (talk)

Request on 14:25:52, 10 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 122.171.178.243

• 122.171.178.243 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nissim Mannathukkaren (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Kashmorwiki Let others to review Draft:Nissim Mannathukkaren

122.171.178.243 (talk) 14:25, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Stop reviewing this article

Stop reviewing this article. 122.171.184.232 (talk) 08:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Sorry 122.171.184.232. As an AFC reviewer, if I ever come up with this article again, I have to review it. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I think now its resubmitted. 122.171.184.232 (talk) 15:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Syed Shamas ud Din Gamgeen Andrabi

Hi there, I saw that you tagged this for PROD but the creator removed it. Is this a hoax? The sole reference doesn't even mention them! Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Spiderone, I dont think its a hoax. Some blogs and videos which mention about this person showed up on doing WP:Before. But this person is nowhere near passing GNG as there are no reliable sources giving him sigcov. Who should nominate it for deletion? You or me? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:20, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

If you're happy to do so, I will support. Since I'm only familiar with English, I wasn't fully comfortable with my own WP:BEFORE, hence why I checked with you as I initially thought it was a hoax or just someone really, really non-notable. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Spiderone, I had done the honours.[52]. Please let me know if you spot anything like this in future. Happy editing and regards:) Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 07:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Chatarpatar 2000 ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:48, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, this is the first time I am being threatened legally. Can you give an advice on how to deal with such users. By the way, thankyou for blocking them immediately. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:51, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Article on CRED

Hey - hi!

I wrote the initial draft for the CRED article - I noticed that you were concerned if I was working for "undisclosed payment". This is a concern that another editor also bought up on my talk page as well - User_talk:KNivedat#Managing_a_conflict_of_interest. I did not receive any form of payment from these companies - I created pages on CRED, Udaan (company), PharmEasy and a couple more after seeing a lot of news articles on these companies becoming unicorns recently. When I went to the List of unicorn startup companies page on Wikipedia, I noticed that all of these did not have wiki pages and was hoping to create them. I tried my best to make these sound neutral, though almost all of these pages ended up getting it with CSD G11/nominated for deletion through AfD or moved to draftspace. All of these companies did seem to meet requirements of WP:CORP. I was wondering if you could help me with what I could do differently to make my contributions seem less like "unambiguous promotion". Thanks! KNivedat (talk) 12:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

KNivedat, first of all thankyou for your contributions to this project. I just had a concern with your articles, because of the way it is written. Most of them are notable actually. But the only problem I saw was with the way its wtitten. Take the case of this article CRED itself. It is actually fine. But the problem is with the tone (This article is actually way much better when compared to some other ones written by you). When you create an article about a company, try not to write it in the viewpoint of the company itself. I have plenty of experience dealing with articles about companies. Most of them had enough sigcov from reputed sources, but was not written in an encyclopedic tone. So I had to decline most of them. Anyway, this article of yours is now moved back into mainspace by an admin as they felt its ok. Its almost equal to an AFC process. So you dont need to worry about it. If you have any concerns or doubts regarding writing an article in a better way, feel free to ask me. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:33, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Could you review Azra Public School, Hyderabad

Hey 👋 As you told that you are happy to review articles related to India, could you please review my article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Azra_Public_School,_Hyderabad)

Since I was recommended to follow the basic format of similar schools, I’ve used the articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Chaitanya_Techno_School,_Eluru and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Indian_High_School,_Dubai as the basis for my article. I hope my article is good enough as I have citied all my sources and have written almost all the details necessary for a school.

One last thing: I dunno if you are the right person to contact for this but I had a few doubts about the copyright of the 2 images used. I have borrowed it from their website and went as far to call the school to ask to use the image and they gave me consent. The problem is: Wikipedia needs written permission to use it which I don’t have. So if you could help me in that it would be of great help.

Thankyou so much! If there is anything I should add please ask me and I’ll do it. Rasalghul1711 (talk) 21:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Rasalghul1711. Thank you for your contributions. But Im afraid that your article will not get accepted. First of all, your article does not have reliable sources other than the school website itself. This is the main issue. For a subject to become notable in the general context, it should have recieved significant coverage from multiple reliable sources. Please see WP:NSCHOOL as well as WP:GNG. Secondly, your article is written from the viewpoint of the school rather than an encyclopedic tone. It almost reads like an advertisement. Try to resolve these issues and your draft will get accepted. And please let me know if you have any concerns so that I can help you. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello again Kashmorwiki, First of all, yes I’ve used the school’s website as a primary source. That’s because there isn’t much information from reliable sources online (like admission websites) even though this school is quite notable. (This often happens for a lot of the schools in this area who don’t get much internet coverage but are still nevertheless very notable offline.) To counter this I personally went to the school to check it out and double-checked the sources. Besides I’ve only written basic info about the school and don’t how this can’t be reliable. As for the tone of the article, I’ll try to improve it and get back to you. One last thing. Thank you for your time! Rasalghul1711 (talk) 07:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Update: I have edited the article as per your instructions. I have added citations and changed the tone of the article. I would be really grateful if you checked it again. Rasalghul1711 (talk) 08:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Rasalghul1711, the tone seems quite fine now compared to the previous version I checked. But Im still concerned with the sources. You can also provide offline sources such as newspapers and magazines. No guidelines says that the sources must be online. Like you said, schools often get less coverage and thats an hard truth. I even tried to create an article for my higher secondary school. Unfortunately, there were no sources. I am really sorry to tell you that your article cannot be accepeted in present state. Because it is very important that the sources must be independent of the subject. Give me atleast any one source that makes an mentoon about the school and I can have a try. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 09:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey Kashmorwiki, I have added all the necessary sources about the school in the Further Reading and Viewing section. All source (except 1) are from local newspapers like siasat and etemaad and thus are independent from the subject. I am trying to find a few more articles but I doubt I'll find any so consider this as the final draft. Thanks! Rasalghul1711 (talk)

Hello Rasalghul1711, I had analysed the latest sources. This [53] source is nothing but a few sentence about the annual day organised in the school. This[54] source is something related to the chairman of the school. This [55] is just another routine coverage about an accident in which the students of the school were involved. Im unable to analyse this [56] one as I cant read this language. What I meant by sources were something that gives coverage to the school rather than to something connected it. Please have a look at The Choice School and see the sources used in it. We need sources like that and your draft may pass. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 12:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello again Kashmorwiki, I do get your point but you have to understand that if you want info about Indian schools you get it from admission websites or sometimes passing mentions in newspapers or magazines. All of these I have listed and went as far as to personally check them by going to the school. The article you mentioned The Choice School has similar citations. I can't possibly add any more sources
Besides I am not writing a political or historical article but about a school by mentioning basic facts about it. So I don't think this is fair.
Also I can't help but notice several other similar schools like Sri Chaitanya Techno School, Eluru, Panchavati High School, St. Ann's High School, Secunderabad and many many more school pages have barely or no citation at all but still somehow qualify for an article, compared to my article which has several citations and links all verified. I feel this is a doubt standard.
This is why I feel you should the article once again. Thank you for your time Rasalghul1711 (talk) 12:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Rasalghul1711, dont be upset my friend. I know your situation. Like you said, its hard to establish notability for these schools. But Im helpless here as I can only follow what our notability guidelines says. This issue is not applicable to schools. Take the example of old movies, especially those before 2000's. Its technically impossible to find sources from those years. Though, lot of movie articles had been deleted so far because of lack of reliable sources. And if you think the schools you mentioned above are not notable, you can nominate them for AFD. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki The thing is I did list sources, the only difference being I listed sources from admission websites that are not so reliable compared to newspapers. Anyways thank you for your time, Good day to you.😊

on the wikipage of The Probe (India)

Good morning sir.

This is regarding your deletion of the wikipage : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Probe_(India)

I'd like to state that this page is just beginning to get built as the organization was launched just a few days ago.

I did look at many other WiKi pages which to my surprise have existed for years without getting edited or deleted despite not having even a single valid reference. The examples are many that i have compiled.

While i appreciate your diligence, i request you to give us time to expand the above mentioned Wikipage as we get more citations and this will be done diligently adhering to the format of many wikipages that exist that have passed the review.

Moreover, i contribute to Wikipedia on a voluntary basis - i accept no remuneration whatsoever on any contribution i make to wikipedia.

Pilgrimhawk, first of all, you dont need to call me sir. I'm just a wikipedia volunteer. Secondly, please sign all posts on talk pages (not article pages) with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
Now coming to the case of your article, it is not deleted at all. Instead it has been moved into draftspace to develop into a better article. You just said that the organition was launched just a few days ago. So it needs to be supported by more reliable sources as it lacks it now. Thats why I moved into draftspace. Take your time, add more citations and when you feels it is ready to be published back into mainspace, you can submit it for review. Hope you understood. Have a nice day and regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 01:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki, Good morning Thank you for the pointers and suggestions. I shall work on the guidelines given by you. We do expect moe citations to come as it is a The Probe ( India) is a fully people supported news media and i felt such initiatives need to be supported. I shall continue to refine and fine-tune the page. Thank you for giving the time. Since the news portal is just launched, it would be helpful as if it could stay as it is given the assurance that it will be fine tuned as per the guidelines. On a personal note - glad to know that you are from Aluva. i hail from Perumbavoor, now based in Bangalore teaching in an art and design school here.pilgrimhawk 02:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I tried to make it factual as based on the webpage and the work they are doing - not sure why you think it is an advertisement. I have edited it further to make it more factual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AstroNYC (talk • contribs) 03:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello AstroNYC, can I get the link of the article you are reffering to Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 04:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Doubt on reliable sources

Hye Kichu, Since my article got declined, I was reading up on the Reliable Sources Page to see if my article had one last chance before I discard it. You declined my page for doubting the reliability of my sources (which were admission websites) and I don't see why they do not classify as reliable sources. Websites like admissions.24.com, siasat.com, eduvidya.com are not Questionable Sources rather used by many parents. These are also independent of the topic. One line from the Reliable sources page confirmed my belief, "Although review aggregators (such as Rotten Tomatoes) may be reliable, their audience ratings based on the reviews of their users are not." Admission websites are written by editors who know about many schools in their vicinity similar to Rotten Tomatoes,IMDb etc So I personally don't see why my sources are not reliable.
Thanks again, you've helped me quite a lot with this! Rasalghul1711 (talk) 18:36, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Based on my review of the Terms and Conditions at admissions24.com, it specifically disclaims its reliability as a source in the Disclaimer of Warranties section, and eduvidya.com makes similar statements in its Terms and Conditions, e.g. Eduvidya.com and/or its respective suppliers make no representations about the suitability, reliability, availability, timeliness and accuracy of the information, services and related graphics contained on the Sites for any purpose. These websites therefore appear to be WP:QUESTIONABLE sources because there is no editorial oversight. Beccaynr (talk) 18:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Rasalghul1711, I hope you had your doubt cleared with this explanation by Beccaynr. Please let us know if you have any more concerns. Always happy to help. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 19:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Beccaynr Thanks for your help, I forgot to read the T%C of Admission 24 and Eduvidya.com. I guess I have to discard the article now. Thanks for your help too @Kashmorwiki

Hi Rasalghul1711, those websites do not make it easy to find their disclaimers, and I expect they are helpful for exactly the reasons you stated, just not helpful enough for Wikipedia. I also have looked for sources for the article - the news sources in the article are a start, but I could not find an archive link for the full article from the Siasat Daily. In my search, I noticed other schools get press coverage because of notable alumni, and the schools in the area appear to have a good reputation. I encourage you to keep looking for sources to help develop content per WP:ORGDEPTH, including about the history of the school and its leadership. Beccaynr (talk) 00:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

SUGAR Cosmetics

Hey, I have removed what might be unreliable sources. Can I please request you to check if the remaining are reliable? From what I have read, Forbes, Entrepreneur, and India today are reputed publications and are considered reliable. But please correct me if I am wrong here and point me which of the residual sources are not reliable. I am also reading your guide on how to write better articles and will improve before submitting again accordingly. However, before that, I wanted to seek your guidance.

Hello Mumbai0421. Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages (not article pages) with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
Coming to your concern, this source[57] from Forbes is actually not giving that much coverage to the subject. Also Forbes.com seems little problematic. See Wikipedia:FORBESCON. Actually none of the sources are giving enough sigcov. Also the draft is tagged for undisclosed paid editing. There were also problems involving sockpuppetry. Please tell me if you have any concerns. Good luck with your draft. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 11:59, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Draftify without redirect

Hola! W.r.t. this, I think a draftify without redirect may be apt. Please check with others more experienced to confirm. Thanks. VV 12:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

(unfortunately, not a talk page stalker yet) They do not have extendedmover yet so they must leave a redirect. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 12:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Vincentvikram, like Aselete said, I dont have the page mover rights yet. So draftification of an article would leave a direct. But it would also get deleted under CSD R2. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 13:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

BTW it was a good idea to move it to draft space rather than a delete. This is a better way to retain editors and train them in the process. A delete later on does not have the same disheartening effect. VV 13:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes Vincentvikram, we should move the articles into draftspace that have a chance of passing GNG. I have been spenting almost my entire time at AFC for the past couple of months and this is one thing I learned from there. If I knew this before I was an AFC reviewer, I would have definetly moved some articles into draftspace rather than nominating for AFD (only those who may become notable in future). Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 14:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hi sir I need to address you that Rumel Khan has named many times in different newspapers in Bangladesh for his different activities. So please don't delete his page. Tanvir Kabir Saikat (talk) 19:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Tanvir Kabir Saikat. You should not call me sir. And I did not delete your article. I just moved your article into draftspace because it was not ready to remain independently in the mainspace. You can see that I was correct because the draft has been declined by another reviewer. What happened was you did not made any changes and just submitted it for review. Please dont make the same mistake again. Make the necessary modifications and resubmit the draft for review, then it may pass. You may also contact the reviewee who declined your draft. Good luck with this all. Please ask me if you have any more concerns. Always happy to help and I'll do my best. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 23:36, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

You asked me to write reliable citation but i already quote 3 big newspaper article for this.

You asked me to write reliable citation but i already quote 3 big newspaper article for this.

Hello Owaissaleem22, Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages (not article pages) with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
Now, can I get a clear picture about your concern? Which article are you actually referring to? Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Meter Point Reference Number

Hi, you have rejected my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Meter_Point_Reference_Number and I would like to know why to improve it. It's mainly a copy of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meter_Point_Administration_Number and the main thing to include is the python code.

Hello Naish21, Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages (not article pages) with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
Coming to your case, I havent rejected your draft. Actually I declined it. See that an article should not be presented on the assumption that the reader is well-versed in the topic's field. Please see WP:NOTHOWTO. Your draft contains terms and examples which the common readers cannot understand. Please remodify the draft accordingly and it may pass. Good luck and regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 08:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Proper references are present in Gop Chieftaincy

Proper reference are present in Gop Chieftaincy article brother you can check it then also users like Heba aisha are nominating it for deletation same case is with Gopal dynasty proper reference were present but someone vandalised the page probably sockpuppet account of Heba aisha and she Nominated the page for deletation please do something about it I beg you, Heba aisha is only interested in kushwaha related articles and is deleting articles of other communities Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 09:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

And i personally also come from Naugachia where Gop Chieftaincy was I can assure you that all information is correct in page all reference about chulai Gop and Fulchandra Singh (Futtyy Singh) war with pindaris are present Ramesh mishra Naugachia (talk) 10:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ramesh mishra Naugachia, I understood your emotion. But please be aware while talking out of emotions and frustrations. You said Heba Aisha is involved in sockpuppetry. It is actually considered as personal attack. You should not accuse anyone for sockpuppetry directly. If you have any doubts, please open an SPI against Aisha. And regarding the articles you mentioned here, can you give me the link to it. Let me see whats going on here. Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 12:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't feel the need to explain anything. But, if the user had given enough time to read policies of wikipedia rather than accusing me for various things, he would have clear idea about how things should be done.Ramesh mishra Naugachia, I have contributed to a lot of caste articles and Nishad, Mallah, Teli, even Lorik Sena related to Yadav caste are my work. I wrote them from scratch using high quality sources. Even I forgot many other caste articles which are my work like Dhanuk, Paswan and many more. Everything here need to be sourced with quality sources, and notability doesn't mean owning a patrol pump etc, which you are thinking. I don't have personal bias against Yadav caste nor any other caste. Even I was one who made Lalu Prasad Yadav article neutral by adding his socialist policies for lower caste. Earlier that article was written in a critical way to highlight criminal cases only which he is facing. Take a deep breath and check good articles on Wikipedia and the way they are written. Most of the source you are using mention them just in one or two line and you are writing ur own view by clubbing many sources together. Also,its Wikipedia community who decide whether to delete an article or not, not me. On the article I nominated, other people who have nothing to do with Yadav caste are also commenting in favour of delition . It means you are wrong somewhere. Think deep and don't accuse. Moreover, You are going to face admin action soon.Heba Aisha (talk) 15:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Heba Aisha, this is a confirmed sock as per checkuser. Thats make the sense of whats going on here. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 17:04, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Added reference links from reliable sources as mentioned

Hi Kichu, I have updated as per the guidelines mentioned while moving the article to Draft: Kiran Das. Request you to review the same and provide the comments, also i didn't understand how to add the "notability" tag on the article, any guidelines will be helpful

Vivumail (talk) 10:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Vivumail, sorry for not giving a quick reply. I am actually busy in realife and is not reviewing any drafts at the present. Could you wait for two days? If you need a quick response, please kindly contact any other reviewers. Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 16:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Sure , please check once you are back. Thanks Vivumail (talk) 15:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

I hope the article is encyclopedic now

Hi Kichu,

How are you my friend, I hope you are in the pink of health.

Thanks a lot for your revision and your notes that made me develop my skills more. I rewrote the article as it should be in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article, and I remove any suspected term/s, which seems to be a peacock terms that promote the subject, and I removed any unreliable source from the article, so now, I hope now that the article has met all the required criteria.

The article's link

Many thanks again, kind regards. Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 02:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Dr. Mustafa Ahmed, thank you for your contributons to this project. I will be so in busy for the two next days so that I wont be participating in any AFC for AFD discussions unless it needs my attention the most. Im sorry that I cant assess the state of your draft now. Because lot of sources are there and it will take a plenty of time. So could you please contact any other reviewer if you are in a hurry to get the approval of the article? Beccaynr is not an AFC reviewer but have more knowledge than me in certain areas of notability guidelines, especially NAUTHOR. You may kindly contact them if you want to.Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 03:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Mustafa Ahmed, I actually already started reviewing the article - I have also been working on a few other projects, but my first thought is that a Reception section would likely be helpful for the book reviews. I do want to conduct my own research and review the sources more closely, but that was my first impression of the article. Examples of how this could look: Nadya A.R., Alexandra Lapierre. Cheers, Beccaynr (talk) 04:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kichu, No problem, I will wait for you.Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Beccaynr, Thanks a lot for the helping, I'm so happy for that. I saw & checked the examples for the Reception section or Critical Reception and it is a nice idea for collecting all the reviews in that section, I will start for that & then inform you when it will be done, Thanks for that idea.Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Beccaynr, I just finish the Critical reception section for this article, waiting your assessment. Thanks in advance, Appreciatively Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 03:56, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Dr. Mustafa Ahmed, your work looks excellent - I made some small edits to the draft and I plan to make a closer review after I have had some sleep. There are many references in the Publications section that I would like to review more closely because they may offer more information to include in the article, and it looks like an 'Honors and awards' section can also be created. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Beccaynr, Thanks a lot for the edits, it looks now more professionally. I added the 'Honors and awards' section and I will wait your final revision, so take your time as much as you want I'm not in a hurry, because you make an excellent edits. Kind regards, Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 13:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Mustafa Ahmed, as an update, I am still working through the sources, but wanted to let you know I removed several reviews 1, 2, 3 because while they have different authors in different publications, and some differences, they have the same core content, which raises a concern, per WP:IIS, that there may be an advertiser dictating the content, and therefore these sources are not independent. However, there are still reviews in the article, as well as the significant award, and WP:AUTHOR states notability can also be based on "multiple independent periodical articles," not just reviews, and there are many periodical articles cited that I plan to review next. In the meantime, please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 02:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Beccaynr, Thank you for that great job.Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 03:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Mustafa Ahmed, as another update, I have made some additional changes and removed some sources that do not appear to be reliable or were reprints. Source assessment has been somewhat challenging when I use Google Translate, but I want to call your attention to footnote 3 of the general notability guideline, It is common for multiple newspapers or journals to publish the same story, sometimes with minor alterations or different headlines, but one story does not constitute multiple works. Several journals simultaneously publishing different articles does not always constitute multiple works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. Similarly, in the essay Citation Overkill, it states in the Reprints section, Another common form of citation overkill is to cite multiple reprintings of the same content in different publications — such as several different newspapers reprinting the same wire service article, or a newspaper or magazine article getting picked up by a news aggregator — as if they constituted distinct citations. [...] This type of overkill should be resolved by merging all of the citations into a single one and stripping unhelpful repetitions — when possible, the retained citation should be the originator of the content rather than a reprinter or aggregator, but if this is not possible (e.g. some wire service articles) then retain the most reliable and widely distributed available reprinter. I do not feel that I have enough experience to do this for this article, but I encourage you to work on it, and you could ask for help at WikiProject Arab world. I do think there is potential for this article, but I also think it still needs some work. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 21:37, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Beccaynr, First of all, I would like to thank you a lot for that great effort you made for this article and for helping me with that. I already removed all the repeated sources that have the same content and only but the original one.

I liked your idea by adding a Critical section in the article and you did a great job in that section but then remove the whole section again because of suspicion of some sources, and indeed there are similar reviews in 1, 2, 3, but I prefer the two references 2, 3 had quoted and copyed some sentences from the source 1, because the review 1 is the oldest in terms of publication date, So I suggest that exclusion the two reviews 2, 3, and take the review 1 into account because it supports that section in the article (Critical reception), and it is not the guilt of the reviewer to exclude his/her review because others have copied from it.

The same thing is here this source 4 and 5, as this 5 is an echo from 4, so we can use this source 4 also in the article. And Also this review 6 has a great information for 3 publications that will support the critical section more (in case of return it again), So if you like to return the Critical section again we can use this sources 1, 4 and 6, which will support the article more in addition of the source 7 which is already present in the article, so what is your opinion about that? I observe that you made a great afford and I feel sad when the section is removed after that all time and effort from you. Thank you again. Dr. Mustafa Ahmed (talk) 03:01, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Dr. Mustafa Ahmed, and many thanks to you for all of your work. I am glad that you caught the issue with the Big News Network and Arab Daily News - I was planning to review my edits to make sure I had not removed too many sources, and I agree that the Arab Daily News should be restored. I am still concerned about the reviews with the same core content, and my concern is somewhat based on an AfD discussion I have recently participated in that included a concern about book marketing and the independence of sources - while I disagreed in that discussion, from my view it seems more likely here that a press release may have been circulated to all of the authors, because there is so much of the same content. It is unfortunate because it is such a strong review, but it is a credit to your research skills that you were able to identify this happening. Editors with more experience may have another idea on how to handle this, but another related issue is that the Daily Nigerian is not listed on the Reliable Sources list for Nigeria, so it would likely not be considered a strong support for notability. Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you again. Beccaynr (talk) 03:37, 20 April 2021 (UTC)