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@DanCherek Noted, thank you Michaeldble (talk) 13:25, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by LJF2019 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Merge to Hartlepool United F.C.
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What do you prefer to state tiers for honours sections?

Would you prefer?

1)

National League (level 5)

2)

National League (level 5)


3)

National League (L5)


Also, personally, when bigger clubs have won trophies such as the second, third division, fourth division e.g...

Third Division / League One

...I don't see the need to place the tier afterwards, the "Third Division" is pretty self explanatory, think stating tiers is more important for leagues that do not clearly state what level on the pyramid they are/lesser known leagues. Joseph1891 (talk) 11:53, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Probably say may fav is the third option, as it seems the least cluttered, but be good to know your thoughts! Joseph1891 (talk) 12:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
I think most pages tend to use: (level 5), so option 1. Most football fans would probably understand L5 but I think we should be as clear as possible personally. As for the final point, I think the Third Division was the fourth tier from 1992 to 2004 so I would still always include them where possible. Michaeldble (talk) 12:40, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Okay, thanks Mich, so do you think option 1 or 2? Joseph1891 (talk) 12:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Option 1 personally Michaeldble (talk) 12:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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@Robert McClenon Thank you for all your help! Michaeldble (talk) 10:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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@Robert McClenon Thanks for your feedback on the draft!
Regarding the previous deletion of the History of Hartlepool United F.C. article in 2020, the reasoning was that it was: poorly written, poorly sourced and that it was shorter than the history section (at only 28,000 bytes) on the main article. However, I think the circumstances since this deletion have changed enough to justify the new article.
The reason that I wanted to re-create the article was that I thought Hartlepool United F.C. (especially the history section) had become too detailed and long - potentially causing reader issues. I thought the history section was better to be: WP:SPLITTING because it was over 5,500 words long which seemed excessive for a club article. Most of the info was notable and verifiable so I thought it would be wrong to remove it from Wikipedia entirely. Instead, I wrote a more condensed 1,500 word section intended for the main page as a replacement if this draft passed submission which I think would be preferable.
I did attempt to gain consensus on Talk:Hartlepool United F.C. twice to do this but I received no replies so I wasn't sure on next steps.
Regarding the issue with sources, which ones were not reliable please?
Thanks again Michaeldble (talk) 07:36, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon Michaeldble (talk) 13:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
User:Michaeldble - I did not have an issue with any particular sources. The mention of sources is canned language, not my words. I want to see rough consensus. I will post an inquiry about what is the proper process for finding rough consensus when a subtopic has been split and merged. Please seek additional discussion on the talk page in the meantime, and I will ask about what process can be used. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:30, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon I see! Thank you, I wasn't too sure if there was anything I could do for now - I've posted on the talk page but haven't heard anything back yet. I think the WP:SIZESPLIT is around 100kB, so I think this would apply at 130kB. Michaeldble (talk) 16:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, Michaeldble. Thanks for placing the Recentism template on the Southend article. I was very conscious of the detail that was being added to the article (mainly be me!) but I wanted to wait for the club's sale before consolidating the more salient details. Now that the sale is approaching conclusion, I have started to remove some of the less relevant content from the recent history.

I am not a Southend fan, but I have extensively edited various articles about financially troubled clubs (eg: Bolton, Bury, Macclesfield, Scunthorpe). I think crisis periods should be sufficiently explained so that readers can understand the causes, events and outcomes. Southend's problems are unprecedented in the club's history so the 2020-2023 narrative will naturally be longer and more detailed than other periods. However, I would welcome you running your eye over the (now shorter) article.

(I am conscious that Recentism isn't just about too much recent coverage; it is also about insufficient detail regarding past periods. Unfortunately, I don't have access to extensive reliable sources about the club's earlier history, though I was able to expand the section about the club's foundation and formative years.) Best wishes. Paul W (talk) 09:18, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Paul W Hi, hope you're well. Yes, my main concern with the article was that the first 80 years of the club's history had less information than a six year period (2004–2010), the early years definitely need to be extended further. I will have a look for some sources for this period. As you said, the financial issues are a very important part of a club's history so will naturally be more detailed, plus it is still an ongoing issue in this case which makes it difficult to summarise right now. I think the best approach personally for these types of articles is to move all of the financial issues detail onto the relevant 'History of ...' page and provide a more brief summary on the main page. I still think the recent history could maybe do with more of a trim personally, as over half of the 117-year history is covering the last three years. All the best, Michaeldble (talk) 11:07, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, Michaeldble. This morning I have been doing some modest expansion of the earlier years, drawing on material/sources from other Wikipedia articles and also the recently published Shrimpers Trust document about the Ron Martin era. Will now wait for you (and any other editors) to help address the issue. Cheers for now... Paul W (talk) 11:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
@Paul W Thank you for your help! Michaeldble (talk) 12:05, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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