User talk:Mz7/June–August 2019

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15:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement: Undelete File

My uploaded Images keep getting flagged and deleted, as possible copyright infringement, even when I am clearing noting that I am the copyright owner of the Image content.

How do I undelete the files and avoid this from repeatedly happening, even when I am clearly noting that I own the image


Thanks

Herbie --Lovebugg305 (talk) 21:10, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Lovebugg305: Your image on Commons is repeatedly removed because the actual owner of the image you keep uploading is owned by Gangsta Ro Productions, who holds distribution and publishing rights to Evil Pimp's music. Wikipedia and Commons take copyright violations very seriously.
Commons does not allow Fair Use due to licensing restrictions. See COM:FAIR. Instead, use Wikipedia's Upload Wizard.
Album covers are also not acceptable to use on musician bios per WP:NFCI#1. Instead, consider uploading a genuine unedited photograph of the musician to Commons. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 01:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

Administrator changes

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

17:06, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Advice

Hi - I wonder if I could ask your opinion on a rather difficult situation. A lot of it is documented on Drmies's talk page - that thread has tailed off, and I don't want to press the people who were involved in it any further. I don't think you need to read through the whole thread, but the short version of it is that one of my former CVUA students is on the receiving end of a campaign of threats of violence from an LTA. He's been in touch with Emergencies who are investigating, but they say that it will be a minimum of four weeks before they respond, so he's currently staying off wiki.

Here comes the question - he's pretty confident that the LTA is the same person who harassed another user, and apparently went as far as to find out where that user lived and leave threatening messages in their post box. If they were willing, he would like to communicate with that user via e-mail to find out more about what happened, but the user does not have e-mail enabled on their account. Would it be bad form for me to leave a note on their talk page, inviting them to e-mail me so that I can make an off-wiki introduction? Or, is that all a bit too clandestine and intrusive - would I be better advising him to let the Emergencies team do their job, and just stay off wiki for a few weeks? I don't know if you've ever been involved in anything like this before, but your advice would be most welcome. Thanks GirthSummit (blether) 18:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

@Girth Summit: I will preface this by admitting I have never been involved in a situation as concerning as this before. I would recommend letting the emergencies team handle it on their end. They are the ones whose job it is to handle threats to safety. I would avoid communicating with whoever this user is at all – it is clear through their actions that no amount of discussion with them will be productive, and I would advocate an WP:RBI approach whenever you spot them. Against LTAs, do not engage with them, do not give them any sign that you are affected by them at all. They take pleasure in seeing you frustrated or intimidated. Deny them that experience. Mz7 (talk) 20:02, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for the advice. Just to be clear (in case I wasn't before), I wasn't proposing to contact the LTA in any way, it was one of their previous victims that I was thinking about contacting, to see if they could offer any insight into how the LTA was able to find out where they lived. If you think it best just to leave emergencies to do their thing however, that's what I'll recommend. Thanks again GirthSummit (blether) 20:47, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

20:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

17:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Recall archive

I profoundly disagree with the closure on the grounds that it is important to know, both for the community and WJBScribe, where the community stood on that motion. I suspect that WJBScribe enjoyed majority support, and for the benefit of his personal comfort, I think it would be good for him to see just to what extent that support was. Could you consider undoing? Promethean (talk) 08:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@Promethean: I'm disinclined to undo the closure. My interpretation of the recall discussion is that some community members were merely asking WJBscribe to start a recall process per his user page. Now that WJBscribe has already voluntarily requested removal of his tools, there is no longer any need to ask WJBscribe to start such a voluntary recall process. If you or another member of the community would have also opposed a recall discussion, I think the better venue to let WJBscribe know that at this time would be on his user talk page. Respectfully, Mz7 (talk) 09:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Understand and respect your reasoning; Reiterating my belief that something must be done to put and end to this shitfuckery. Though, I'm preaching to the choir on that one, I'm sure. Promethean (talk) 09:36, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Mz7,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).

Administrator changes

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Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:20, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

21:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

FYI

Hi Mz7, I don't know if you know, and I'm always keen to spread the word about this, so this is just FYI. You cannot block this guy, so my advice is to leave them as alone as you can - semi- a user talk page if you have to - and let the filter do its work. Also @CLCStudent: as I mentioned before, don't poke this one. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:20, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Zzuuzz, thanks for the heads up. I'll keep this in mind moving forward. Mz7 (talk) 21:39, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Smells like more block evasion

This editor sure seems determined to have their say. Funcrunch (talk) 02:41, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Funcrunch, thanks - I blocked it. Mz7 (talk) 03:31, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

15:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

13:07, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Asking for opinion about RfA

Hi, I'd like to create and edit a few pages about companies in India and Japan (I have lived in both countries and work for companies in both countries as well). But it requires administrator permission level. Can you check my user account (contributions and edit history) and give me feedback whether I'd pass the RfA test/process?

I contacted you because I saw your name in the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_RfA_nomination

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_requests_for_adminship

ThanksCompfreak7 (talk) 09:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Due to your recent block from editing, I do not believe you would pass RfA in the near future. Mz7 (talk) 18:35, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

21:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).

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Arbitration

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

13:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

18:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

15:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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Sir william

Does sir william ever visit here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:F12A:A300:2CF0:12D0:2AEA:E5F2 (talk) 20:02, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mz7 - I tried to edit the Wiki on the Zitterbewegung article but that spiraled into an epic failure. The exchange is copied below. I am not good at these online fora (I am a rather old man, I am afraid - but experience makes up for being savvy, right? Any case - I got invited to a Tea House conversation and all that. I am not so interested because I do have an daytime job (like you) and, then, well... No time to waste time in general. I was upset because ALL of the edits/additions were reverted by the 'incumbents'. I don't think that's fair. There's knowledge and science in what I write. I've served in Afghanistan. I am not about self-promotion. Any case... Interesting... :-) Cheers - JL


WP:NOTHERE issues and derogatory language from Jean Louis Van Belle/212.224.224.59 Jean Louis Van Belle (talk · contribs · logs · edit filter log · block log) 212.224.224.59 (talk · contribs · logs · edit filter log · block log) Zitterbewegung (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) I was alerted to this user's edits by a message from MaoGo at WikiProject Physics. I found that the text they added includes a lot of WP:SYNTH and editorializing (it is "puzzling" that Dirac did this and "baffling" that he did not do that; the ideas of thus-and-so are "elegant and attractive"; a random historical factoid "may be usefully mentioned"). It was also replete with unreliable sources, like three instances of the author promoting their own viXra postings, and two "citations" to personal emails they received. It also violated WP:DUE and MOS:LEAD by overloading the introduction with excessive detail about minority viewpoints (presented in a SYNTH-etic way). Accordingly, I removed it. While I had the page open, I wikilinked the journal titles in the bibliography, an edit they decided to undo. They are now wasting time on my Talk page, opening with a personal attack, editing their own comments after being replied to (and making a false claim in the process), and making further personal attacks amid angry boasting. I am more amused than anything else (Look bastard [...] I've got credentials — I mean, that's comedy gold). But this individual seems willing to waste an arbitrarily large amount of the community's time.

They've edited from a logged-in account and from an IP, but without any attempt to appear like multiple people.

XOR'easter (talk) 18:42, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't really like escalating to the drama boards, but since it seems they'd rather yell at me than start a discussion at any of the venues I pointed them to, I figured any intermediate dispute-resolution steps would merely delay the inevitable. XOR'easter (talk) 18:49, 26 August 2019 (UTC) Yeah, that looks like a ton of WP:OR. As far as I can tell, none of his research has been peer-reviewed. Honestly it looks like he's just trying to self-promote more than anything. Although I do have to say, I am a real-life amateur physicist. You are a self-appointed censor? gave me a laugh - Frood (talk!) 19:50, 26 August 2019 (UTC) @XOR'easter: thanks for noticing such a large mess, I was busy and I had not read the article. I had just saw the large number of edits, rising suspicion. Certainly citing a private conversation with a Wikipedia user as a source was a clue that something was very wrong. They are personally attacking XOReaster that is an unacceptable behavior.--MaoGo (talk) 20:03, 26 August 2019 (UTC) I think it's plain blanket censorship. An article on the Zitterbewegung without mentioning Hestenes interpretation of it - and without referencing all of the other research it generated on electron models - is pretty useless. I also don't think the Zitterbewegung interpretation of QM is a 'minority interpretation'. In any case, if this is the level of intellectual seriousness at Wikipedia then I'll refrain from trying to contribute to it. My papers have not published in scientific journals but - if you bother to check - they do get dozens or even hundreds of downloads. And, yes, at least I am confident enough to mention my real name and references to real work - as opposed to what the current article looks like: copy and paste of dated an fairly irrelevant material. Good luck. Jean Louis Van Belle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean Louis Van Belle (talk • contribs) 06:32, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

It's original research, and a self-published source. Having a bunch of downloads proves nothing. If we started accepting any self-published research with nobody reviewing it, then we'd have a bunch of pages explaining why vaccines cause autism, and how Bush did 9/11. It's not censorship to remove material that have no reliable sources. - Frood (talk!) 19:42, 27 August 2019 (UTC) was it sound like Jean Louise Van Belle has a lot of detailed knowledge of this subject area. As a compromise, what if we agreed to include the content that he provided, except sourced to a third party published resource rather than to an unpublished physics paper? We need to follow WP:RS while retaining the good informaidon that he has included in the article so far as this is the best approach to make sure that all sides are appeased. Thoughts? Michepman (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2019 (UTC) His additions were unacceptable on WP:SYNTH and WP:FRINGE grounds, even setting aside the unreliable sourcing (and his habit of personal attacks). The content was not worth including, or trying to fix. XOR'easter (talk) 21:57, 27 August 2019 (UTC) To say it another way, there was no good information. Better footnotes cannot save logorrheic POV-pushing; they can only give it a superficial veneer of respectability. XOR'easter (talk) 23:33, 27 August 2019 (UTC) Better footnotes would just be Lipstick on a pig. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC). WP:OR/WP:NOTHERE indeed. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:58, 29 August 2019 (UTC) Neat someone recognizes some 'detailed knowledge of the subject'. Deleting ALL additions and (very minor) edits to existing contents is an insult. Thanks for the remarks on support to keeping Wikipedia alive as a source of creativity. I would also dare to remark that a 'bunch of downloads' may not prove scientific relevance but - at the very least - relevance for society. There are a lot of moving pieces out there, which may or may not amount to some kind of scientific revolution in the coming decades. Wikipedia had better be part of it. Any case - good work ! Keep it up ! JL PS: Oh - and I do object to 'lipstick on a pig' language. I've served. I also don't think I attacked anyone personally, if only because there is no person to attack here (I am the only one using my real name). I was just furious two days of work got edited out COMPLETELY, without any discussion. That's why I call it censorship. Any case - it doesn't matter. Be happy ! JL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean Louis Van Belle (talk • contribs) 16:39, 30 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean Louis Van Belle (talkcontribs)

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