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Declined CheckUser request

Hi there. You declined my CheckUser request at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RidjalA. I am not very familiar with Sockpuppet investigations, but is it possible to do a CheckUser just for the other 3 accounts, AbuRuud, Cgarzanew, and BaSoroka? I feel there is a very strong connection between these accounts. Ajax F¡ore_talk 23:24, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but no, it's not possible, regardless of the reasons (or, for that matter, regardless of who might ask or insist on it). The reason I said a CheckUser check was impossible in this case is that there's nothing available to compare any of the new accounts to. The technical database which the CheckUser team have access to stores information for only 90 days before it is discarded. RidjalA hasn't edited since February 2013, and his only presumed sockpuppet so far (WikiNuevo) hasn't edited since January 2013 — so all their editing activity is now "stale" (more than 90 days old), making it impossible to do a CU against them. As for the IP addresses, CU's are prohibited by policy from publicizing results that would link an account to an IP address (since doing so could violate the policy against "outing", a prohibition which we are generally required to respect even if it interferes with sockpuppetry or conflict-of-interest investigations). Since a CU action simply cannot be done in this case, we had no choice but to decline your CU request, regardless of how useful the results might theoretically have been. This SPI case will need to be dealt with on the basis of (hopefully strong) similarities in (mis)behaviour between these new accounts and the old ones (what is commonly known as the "duck test"). — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 01:15, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't think I explained myself very well. I meant to say that, disregarding RidjalA and the IP addresses, could a CheckUser be performed just on the three accounts listed above? Ajax F¡ore_talk 02:02, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe the answer is still no — but just to be sure, I'm seeking other opinions from the checkusers off-wiki, and I'll get back to you with what will hopefully be a definitive answer. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 04:20, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. Ajax F¡ore_talk 22:56, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

After discussion, it appears that some other CU's would in fact be open to doing checks involving just the new batch of suspected sockpuppets, even without any possibility of technical comparisons to the suspected sockmaster. So I've withdrawn my rejection of your request for CU attention. At this point, it will be up to other SPI clerks, and/or the CU team; to decide what to do next. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 21:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. A CheckUser has completed a check. Ajax F¡ore_talk 02:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

ACERFC

Just a heads up, I started the WP:ACERFC, wanted let you know in case you wanted to formally propose your change from the talk page. Monty ₈₄₅ 00:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 00:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Category:House of Mukhrani to Category:Bagrationi dynasty of Kartli

Rich, can you please move this for me? GJ. Jorjadze (ჯჯჯ) 23:05, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't. David X of Kartli's descendants are not Mukhranians. House of Mukhrani is a much more legitimate term than Bagrationi dynasty of Kartli.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 02:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There are procedures that are supposed to be followed when renaming categories — please read the "categories for discussion" instructions (WP:CFD). Depending on the nature of the naming issue, the category should either be tagged for "speedy renaming" (if it falls under one of the narrowly defined criteria), or else a discussion needs to be started to see if a consensus can be reached for the renaming. The instructions for doing this are in the "How to use CFD" section, about 1/3 of the way down the page. If you are confused by these instructions and need help, I may be able to help you frame the proposal to rename the category in the proper way; in this case, write me back and explain why you believe a renaming of the category would be appropriate. However, it would not be proper for me to unilaterally rename the category; if that is to be done at all, it should be done only in accordance with the established CFD procedures. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 02:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Logging of discretionary sanctions

Thanks I did not know that. -- PBS (talk) 09:39, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Enlighten me about edit history page

Mr Wales- on the Jung myung seok edit page I posted a series of edits on July 28, 2013. In August Harizotoh9 made an edit and then undid it 1 minute later. After that edit was made and "undone" I noticed two things. Firstly the content of my explaNATIONS for my edits was changed in four cases to " Jung's teaching" and the color of the font was changed to light grey. This was NOT my doing and I do not know how someone altered what I posted without an apparent record of it on the edit page. Secondly and related, the content of the main body of the last posted version by me on July 28,2013 has also been altered without any apparent trace that the version was edited. I am appalled that someone changed the content of my edit in a surreptitous way and credited an altered version to my doing. THis is sock-puppetry by proxy. Do administrators have special priveleges of reverting edits (be they on the edit page or aRTICLE PAGE) without a trace of the changes they make? If not, something very disturbing has happened here at Wikipedia! How can I know the difference between contributors and administrators by looking at their usernames? Please enlighten me and move response to talk page of aforementioned article.MrTownCar (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

I have replied to your questions / concerns here, on the article's talk page. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 22:05, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Please help with formatting

Mr Wales I responded to your comments in the Jung Myung Seok talk page but the formatting was thrown off and I can t seem to fix it. Can you help fix the formatting error? I tried to repsond under the section Recourse at Wikipedia but the response was pushed to the very bottom of the page and is difficult to read. thanks MrTownCar (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I fixed the formatting of your comments in the "Please remember to log in when editing this article" section. The key point which you missed is that the correct way to indent a paragraph is to precede it with one or more colons (:). If you indent material with an initial space, this causes the text to be shown in a fixed-width font (like text produced by a typewriter), in a box, and as one long line without line breaks) — totally unreadable for normal text, as you have already seen. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 17:25, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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