User talk:Stbalbach

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Dark Ages delete

I am at a loss to understand why you deleted the post

"The term Dark Ages has been used in other areas. For example some archaeologists use it to describe the Gutian period at the collapse of the Akkadian Empire; the First Intermediary Period and Second Intermediary Period of Ancient Egypt; the late Bronze Age collapse and associated Greek dark ages, the collapse of Mayan civilisation, the collapse of the Angkor civilisation after Jayavarman VII, and what happened on Easter Island."

Can you explain?

Regards John D. Croft 18:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Request Help

I would really like your help in updated the entry for the New7Wonders project. I made several changes last week and was disappointed to see that all of it had been reverted. I am impressed with your history of postings on Wiki and fully admit I am a newbie at this. That said, there are MANY details that need to be updated about the project and its scope. The language is a little misleading in several places also. I fully admit that I may not have properly linked and refed everything, but was disappointed to see that it had all been reverted. Please, especially that you have a history of editing this section, give me a hand as I update the text and clarify some of the details. I work on the web site (new7wonders.com) and have access to the project details. Thanks, AS

Award

The Black Cross of St. Declan You, Stbalbach, are awarded the Black Cross of St. Declan for going medieval on our asses with your excellent work on articles of Dark Ages and Middle Ages interest. De réir a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin - "It takes time to build castles" Ciarán of Clonmacnoise 06:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Medieval clothing

Hi, I see you started this (if I got the name right). I have added a few stubby existing articles from Cat: History of clothing (Europe) or whatever its called, but am not sure if I should leave the Cat: Medieval history some some have, or replace it with this? Johnbod 15:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure either. Medieval historians usually call it "costume", but it looks like there is an existing naming structure for Wikipedia (if a bit verbose in wording). -- Stbalbach 14:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Medieval costume

Johnbod, I would suggest that Category:Medieval costume should be changed to Category:History of clothing (Medieval Europe) and made a subcat of the existing Category:History of clothing (Europe) for consistency. A redirect from Medieval costume would be good. I can make the changes but wanted to be sure you're okay with it before I do. - PKM 18:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll ask Stbalbach, who "does" the medieval history side - I think at the moment this is a history sub-cat, but i'm not good on categories. Obviously i think it ashould be in both fields. I'm now working on Byzantine dress - that seems rather under-categorised too. I'll copy these to his page. Johnbod 18:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Great! Actually just adding Medieval costume as a subcat of Category:History of clothing (Europe) would probably do the trick and be easier for users to understand. The barebones history of costume structure is overly pedantic as the result of trying to mitigate an edit war (see Talk:History of Western fashion for the gory details). I made most of it up. I don't like it on sober reflection.

I have sent you an email.

Want to start a Project on History of clothing? - PKM 18:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

header

Sure thing. I think I'm basicly done now anyway. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Kilimanjaro alternate name sources as "hill of the njaro"

I disagree with your edits of my additions to "Kilimanjaro" that spoken word is not an adequate citation. These people do NOT have a written history, and by interviewing them WE create the reference. However I can't keep challenging you, since you obviously have way more time on wiki than I could have. I invite you to reply to my @yahoo address, same name. ThanksPabobfin 06:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability - there are only about 5 or 6 actual "policies" on Wikipedia, everything else is a "guideline" open for interpretation. "Verifiability" is one of those core policies. If what you say it true, it should be no trouble finding a documented source somewhere, so that other people can Verify it. Information received "word of mouth" fails the Verifiability test. Nothing personal against your or the people just one of the core Wikipedia policies. -- Stbalbach 14:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Woodchuck, Internet Oracle and Nethack

Hi Stbalbach, I notice that you removed my contribution to the woodchuck article which read thusly:

Because of the aforementioned tongue twister, the woodchuck is also widely known as the arch-nemesis of the fictional, collective-minded Internet Oracle. This fact is alluded to in the computer game NetHack where traveling on the Oracle Level while hallucinating may cause the following in-game message to appear:

You hear someone say, "No more woodchucks!"

I cannot but concur that the part about NetHack violates WP:Notability, but I am not so sure about the Internet Oracle part (I definitely could cite sources, that one could definitely argue as lacking WP:Verifiability). Can we find a middle ground (hog)? DomQ 13:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thousand million v. billion

I reverted the change, because, believe it or not, 'billion' in Britain refers to a million million, or what Americans call a 'trillion'. See Billion (disambiguation). Those crazy Brits ruined the language again... Ral315 (talk) 07:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Didn't know that. BTW are we sure that the 20,000 number is sustained, or represents a peak load? Normally hits are not given "on average per second" (which takes some effort to figure out), but rather "peak loads"(which can be seen on a graph) - but it may be in this case. -- Stbalbach 14:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I got the number from the developers; I'm not sure to what they were referring. Ral315 (talk) 17:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Catholic expand template

The next formal step is to file a report on WP:DRV. Once you have done so, I would be happy to comment. I am generally very open to reversing my decisions, especially when the result is controversial. Let me know once the listing has been made and I would be happy to contribute my views. Good luck and best regards, RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 17:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm happy to have helped. It's too bad there was such strident opposition from users who cannot see the problem. But I think this is the final curtain. Thanks for making the DRV request. I hadn't been paying attention after commenting on the first TfD, and I overlooked the fact that it had been kept until I checked several days later. RyanGerbil10 also helped me out by pointing out the policies that it violated (NPOV and RS), on my talk page, and I was able to incorporate that into my argument. — coelacan talk — 19:13, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Hm. See this? [[1]] The blue list is a project list of articles not cleared. I'm not sure how I feel about this; I certainly hoped the matter was finished! btw I will clearly have to split poor old Castelseprio. Johnbod 00:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Just a note: you accidentally deleted one of my comments.[2] No worries. I'm not sure what happened, but if you're by chance using an external editing program, you might want to double check that it's not doing this elsewhere. Peace, — coelacan talk — 07:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I was not using an external editor - I didn't see your comment when I posted either even though it was an hour before. It's a good suggestion. No idea what happened. -- Stbalbach 14:23, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Sutton Hoo

Hi Stephen, I see you have a current interest in the Sutton Hoo article. Glad you just restored the Britannia link. I am planning a bit of an overhaul on this article (for which I think I am qualified) and thought I'd mention it in case you wondered what was happening. It may take a little while and might look a bit unbalanced at times while I'm doing it as I shall be putting in but not necessarily taking out all on the same save, since it is bound to be a fairly long article (and is already). I'd welcome your comments (on my userpage discussion, for ease of finding, if possible) as it progresses. I've read some of the content on the site page discussion so I can see what the previous arguments have been about. Cheers, Dr Steven Plunkett 17:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure, look forward to it. The edits you made so far are excellent. -- Stbalbach 14:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've written all I want now. Now exchanging thoughts with GDallimore on the discussion page re referencing, and would value your input on this or the text itself. Dr Steven Plunkett 07:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, my references seem to have run away with themselves! It needs a couple more in the Beowulf section, perhaps fewer (and trimming) in the burial description? Any suggestions, or glaring gaps in references? Its nearly at full wiki length now. Maybe when Raedwald of East Anglia is revised some of that part can go out. (67MB). Best, Dr Steven Plunkett 05:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Lots of references are good. I have not done a careful reading top to bottom as your still refining. I'm trying to find free images to better illustrate - a map of the mounds would be great but finding a free version has been hard (still looking). -- Stbalbach 05:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Good work! I think I've about done my bit now. What we really want is some free images of the treasure (specially goldwork, big hanging bowl, sceptre etc) but that will be harder (as all the official ones are BM copyright). I might be able to do something with the Ipswich Museum replicas. The article is already 64 MB long before you put the pic in btw: Wikipedia:Article length ########## 32 I see but allows for more...! But as I am using Firefox Mozilla toolbar and Google (supposedly weak) and am having no trouble loading this may be less of a problem now from the technical pov. Readability is another matter. Dr Steven Plunkett 06:04, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I think I have a place to get some free images, for some of the items, will look into it tomorrow. Don't worry about article length, no one pays attention to it if the article is good, and if this becomes featured it will be expected to be long. -- Stbalbach 06:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

PS if we put others in, possibly the Swedish helmet now at the bottom of the page ought to be relocated to its relevant article (Vendel or Valsgarde)? Dr Steven Plunkett 06:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I just contacted about a dozen people on Flickr.com who have Sutton Hoo pictures - it will take a week or so to hear back from them; hopefully some will agree to release the images and then we will have a stock to choose from it should be apparent where to put things and then focus on obtaining any missing important images. -- Stbalbach 16:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Well done! the shield, purse and shoulder-clasp pictures are specially good. I've posted a picture comment on the site discussion. Dr Steven Plunkett 06:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

King Kong

Hi. The Making Of King Kong is an incredible book because it was co-written in the late 60's (although it wasn't completed and published until the mid 70's) by Orville Goldner who actually worked on King Kong.

• He describes the Elasmosaur as being designed as more slender then the ones known to science and its swimming limbs are less prominent.
• The Stegosaur is a combination of two species the Stegosaurus ungulatus and the relatively unknown Kentrosaurus.
• The great sauropod Brontosaurus or more correctly Apatosaurus.
• The three horned Triceratops (none of which appears in the release version).
• The Arsinoitherium another casualty of the cutting room.
• The giant spiders and insects of the gorge were wholly imaginary although he said that a large reptile in the gorge was loosely based on the Cynognathus.
• The huge serpent that appeared in one scene and was later cut out of the film had its living prototype in Egypt. This was a giant snake that menaces Fay Wray at the foot of the tree. It was cut but you can see Fay's reactions to it below her. Look at Fay's reactions just before the T-Rex comes into the clearing.
• The curious reptile that menaces Driscoll during the gorge episode is largely imaginary. Although he said it was loosely based on the features of the Desmatosuchus.
• The giant vulture, Teratornis, and the flying reptiles, Rhamphorynchus are authentic. The vulture is seen eating the dead T-Rex and the Rhamps are seen flying around Kongs cave and one flies away as Kong put Fay Wray in the tree.
• He also describes the Pteranodon and the T-Rex. He explains in detail about the problem with the number of fingers, but that it was a T-Rex. (Although Cooper tended to call it an Allosaurus).

Hope that helps.

• Edit: I saw the book you citied on the King Kong (1933) page. That book is about PJ's King Kong film. The Making Of King Kong book I'm talking about was written by Orville Goldner and George Turner and was published in 1975. It was later expanded by Turner's son and re-released I believe in 2002 as The Spawn Of Skull Island.

Giantdevilfish 05:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it's added to the article. -- Stbalbach 17:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Robert Newton

Hello. We may need to change few things, according to imdb http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0628579/filmoseries#tt0047705 Newton made 26 episodes, he just finished before he died. Now, on amazon and everywhere else i found there are 13 shows,volume 1 and 2, like article says, but the link above, 26 shows, but ???, meaning something is very screwy. But that is 8 shows, i was only able to find 13. Another thing we should add, when he died he left his 5 year old child, there was a huge custody battle over him, finally he was left in care of his aunt and his half sister, of course, i do not have link for that, but i found some info via old newspapers, i can not copy pdf file here.Are you a fan? What's the code to create archives and a rectangle, so my talk appears in a square?

What's your email? I can not show evidence with historical newspaper file, may be I can send it to you and you post it. -Boxingwear

Your reversion of links to teach12.com

Hello. I noticed that you have reverted my removal of commercial link spam in several articles. As you may know, teach12.com is a retail sales website. Such links are disallowed by WP:External links, which prohibits "Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services." May I ask why you have restored them all? Thank you for your time. -- Satori Son 22:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, you removed not only the links but everything else including any mention the authors have published works through TTC. Teaching Company is more than just a retail site they are publishers of university courses and their pages contain valuable information. In one case you even removed links that were being used as footnoted citations. -- Stbalbach 22:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Request for Sutton Hoo pics

Sorry, I live in Bristol which is too far from Sutton Hoo for me to visit it (or the British museum). Shame!! - Adrian Pingstone 21:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Help in edit war

Can I ask your help in the poll to dirime this edit war at Castelseprio (see talk:Castelseprio)? I've stumbled in somebody with awful style layout, nad probably one of those guys getting stuck like children in their version of any article. Bye and good work. --Attilios 09:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Frankenstein

Any particular reason why you reverted my edit to the Frankenstein page? I've put a query up on the discussion page for that article, so it would be good if you could respond there. Obviously if there's a good reason then fair enough, but I can't see one personally. Phil PH 17:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I see you've put it back -- thanks. Phil PH 19:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I left an edit note, your edit got caught up in a mass revert of a bunch of vandalism. -- Stbalbach 19:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

for your positive response on the Stern review talk page :D . Regards Sean Heron 18:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

FYI

There are two redlinks on your userpage. Just thought you might like to know. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ

Template for deletion

Hi. The template in question has now been deleted but earlier this month its creator also added a link as part of the main Project:Catholicism template inviting editors to use the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia [3] (also see the discussion - or lack of it - on the template's talk page). Presumably the result of the deletion debate also covers this addition (obviously, I'm not referring to the Project:Catholicism template as a whole). We shouldn't need another debate to remove it but I wonder if there is a quick way of getting rid of these additions - or do we have to remove them one by one? Cheers. --Folantin 14:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow - that was quick! Meanwhile, I happened upon a rather neat illustration of just why these templates and maybe categories are undesireable here (2nd item) Talk:Agnolo_di_Cosimo Johnbod 14:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, this is really weird. Category:Articles that could be expanded from the Catholic Encyclopedia seems to still be incorporating articles that contain a link to the deleted {{HistSource}}. I went into Talk:Fatalism and deleted the redlinked HistSource template and the talk page immediately fell out of the category. What the heck? — coelacan talk — 03:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

It may be a delay in Wikipedia's cache. I've noticed similar oddities lately. Give it a couple hours. -- Stbalbach 14:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the entire category be deleted per the debates we've already held? --Folantin 10:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Probably, the article was created for the Catholic-link template, which was deleted. I don't think anyone was aware of the category. -- Stbalbach 14:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

OK. If it doesn't disappear of its own accord, maybe I should put it up at CfD. It should be speedily deleted per the previous debates we've held. --Folantin 15:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. -- Stbalbach 15:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about HistSource; I see that it has been speedied already. I hope we don't see any more of these things. Robert A.West (Talk) 14:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

User:MyWikiBiz

Pardon me for asking, but is there a reason you have a link to an indefinitely banned spammer's business (centiare.com) on your user page? --Calton | Talk 21:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I added it as a reminder to myself. It's not a problem in terms of linkspam since external links on Wikipedia are not picked up by search engines for ranking purposes. -- Stbalbach 04:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Sassy555

You're welcome. Another admin actually beat me to the block, but didn't add the notices, so I filled in. I'm guessing we're dealing with a kid here. Never responding to a single talk-page message is odd, as if the user didn't understand what s/he was doing. Typical vandals usually like to start arguments with people who warn them, but this user's singular focus was really unusual, at least in my experiences. Anyway, good work, and please let me know if it resumes. | Mr. Darcy talk 15:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree it was very unusual, and persistent over many months, even adding red-linked images that had already been deleted, like a robot (but that would be too weird - incompetent more likely). -- Stbalbach 15:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Uh-oh!

Dear Stbalbach: Your edits, as in this diff, have shown traces of a sense of humor, which is disruptive of the serious, somber, and relentlessly grim mood that so many other good people in all walks of life have exhibited just before burning out entirely. Be advised that if you continue on this present course, you face the risk of enjoying yourself while at work on this project, and you may even have a similar effect on other editors. Please consider very carefully whether you want to be responsible for such consequences. Thank you. -- Atlant 16:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

pdfs of books

They are being deleted because they were almost all put in a a linkspam campaign by the site owner and in general were reckoned duplicates of gothenberg texts. If you are active on an article and think they are useful you are more than welcome to put them back there. --BozMo talk 18:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

seeWikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Special:Contributions.2FRiapress_adds_links_to_riapress.com. Maybe I was a bit hasty. --BozMo talk 19:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I apologise, but given the problem we have with spam 75 links which land on WP like this: [4] is pretty much sitting in a field mooing so if I mistook for a cow that's life. Also about 25% of them were non sequitor drop in spam... --BozMo talk 19:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The site owner point though is contentious. Funnily I always argue that EVERY change to WP should only be done if it definitely improves it but I always get voted down in favour of WP:COI link campaigns should be reverted on sight. --BozMo talk 19:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Gutenberg

Gutenberg does not produce PDF's - PD books can come in a number of formats: plain text, HTML markup, text->PDF, scan->PDF, audio. At least one example from each is acceptable as people re-use the material in different ways depending on their intended purpose and preferences. Just because there is a Gutenberg version is not reason alone to remove other versions. -- Stbalbach 23:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a repository of links. When two links are redundant to each other then we should prune them down to the most relevant & trusted. I can see where a visual and a audio copy would both be acceptable, but two visual formats would be redundant. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 23:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

nah, text and PDF are different, used in very different ways for different reasons. It is not for you to decide what format readers should or should not have access to. The "repository of links" argument only makes sense in the context of having multiple links to the same type of format (ie, multiple HTML versions, which is a common problem).

For example, many people are using things like the Sony Reader these days which supports PDF. There is no reason not to include a PDF version of a text if it is available. And BTW just doing a straight conversion from text to PDF is not what I mean, it requires skills and time to create a good looking PDF (book quality), it is an original work in its own right. Comparing text to PDF is apples and pears. -- Stbalbach 01:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The Sony Reader supports TXT files. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 04:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

..and it supports PDF files. Have you ever tried to read a text file on a Sony Reader? I have they look awful. PDF has fonts and formating it is much preferred. -- Stbalbach 14:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Permissions email

Stbalbach, the email read:

We have received the permission for the image(s) and have made the necessary modifications to the Image page(s).

Thank you for providing this to us, and for your contribution to the Wikimedia Commons.

Yours sincerely, Bastiq▼e ^demandez 23:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

histsource again

Now at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 8#Template:HistSource. Anyway, was there any growing desire to take Category:Articles that could be expanded from the Catholic Encyclopedia to WP:CFD? I've seen no indication that it's intended to be used in any manner other than that which has already resulted in previous consensus deletions. — coelacan talk — 05:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed I think we need to CfD it. -- Stbalbach 15:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Seen this? There's a possibility it might just be acceptable but check out the "debate" on the talk page. --Folantin 08:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Good move. Thanks. I have it watchlisted just in case yet another debate arises on the talk page there. --Folantin 14:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Castelseprio

I would signal you the behaviour of user:Johnbod at Castelseprio: another personal attempt to put back the page at his will to a pre-Edir War version, when a large consensus had been reached to keep things as they were. He did an alleged splitting, but not the one discussed there. Bye and thanks --Attilios 01:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Calling me an "experimenter"

Excuse me, sir. You left me a message on my "Talk" page that I was experimenting with Wikipedia. I was not. There was a factual error on the "Oliver Twist" page. Brownlow DID NOT induce Monks to give half of his inheritance to Oliver... Oliver gave half of his inheritance to MONKS.

Quote from Oliver Twist: "It appeared, on full and careful investigation, that if the wreck of property remaining in the custody of Monks (which had never prospered either in his hands or in those of his mother) were equally divided between himself and Oliver, it would yield, to each, little more than three thousand pounds. By the provisions of his father's will, Oliver would have been entitled to the whole; but Mr. Brownlow, unwilling to deprive the elder son of the opportunity of retrieving his former vices and pursuing an honest career, proposed this mode of distribution, to which his young charge joyfully acceded."

Please do not accuse me of experimenting with Wikipedia unless you are absolutely sure that I was placing a factual error in Wikipedia. Please respond to me on my Talk page.

VBKid

Justinian I

I'm going to revert the section life to the previous version, the way it was before it got touched by the sockpuppets (which includes the edits you just restored). I'm doing this in order to enforce WP:BAN, i.e. reverting a banned editor's contributions regardless of their quality. This aims to convince some banned, disruptive users that they're not welcome in wikipedia anymore. So it has nothing to do with the section's content. Miskin 15:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Please don't do that, the content is fine. Consider it me who is adding it. If you have any concerns about the content I have added please work it out on the talk page. -- Stbalbach 15:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Or consider it to be mine, I will take responsibility for it. I have been making some tiny edits - my very first - and I have been rewriting it, but not posting it yet, since I want to make sure I don't accidentally screw up. I honestly do not now what to do anymore. On the page Miskin referred to, about enforcing bans, it says it's ok to revert work by sock puppets, as long as you take the responsibility for it. It took a long time reading up on it. Miskin, don't waste your time - I was about to edit the whole thing anyway. La Belle Aude 17:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Twain

Thank you for your help. I am a relatively unadvanced user, and appreciate your moderating my changes. All of the remarks regarding Twain that I posted can be supported from the actual text of the book. If I need to provide quotes (chapter and verse - which I can) in order to sustain the comments, I will.

Well, if you can cite someone else, a third party, who has been published, then we can use that. At Wikipedia we report on what other people say, not make original arguments (or in this case a counter-argument). I'm sure there must be critics of this author that can be cited? -- Stbalbach 21:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Huns

Hi, i'm under probation, could you fix the category links (red ones) of the Huns article? Regards. E104421 22:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

• Appreciated. Thanx. E104421 02:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The Divine Comedy as a Renaissance work

Hi! I think you know that I have been as active as anyone in protecting this article from casual and anonymous edits. But I thought that the recent anonymous editor's point about the lead's reference to the Commedia as a work "of the Renaissance" was pretty justified, as I stated in my edit summary. The designation would, indeed, not be universally or even very widely accepted, and the lead of an article is not the place to drop such a claim. I'm all for a section "Dante on the cusp of the Renaissance" vel sim. (with names and references), but that is what is needed in my opinion. Feel free to move this discussion to the talk page; I would have put it there, but I'm bringing it up here because I realized in practice that a comment on the talk page would have been meant only for the purpose of reaching agreement with you, and I didn't want to create the appearance of calling you out. Wareh 19:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi sorry didn't mean to just over-write you there, I didn't read the previous edit comments. Well, this sentence: "the last great work of literature of the Middle Ages and the first great work of the Renaissance", puts an emphasis on the work as being transitional between the Middle Ages and the Renaissance - it doesn't call it the "greatest work of the middle ages", which is certainly debatable, the period covers a 1000 years and seems kind of silly to say there was a single greatest work. I think emphasizing the work as transitional between two periods is a better way to go and more in line with how critics approach it. -- Stbalbach 14:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

You're right that "greatest" is probably not the best choice (though it would be easy to line up a long list of good sources agreeing on it). But "last great" is worse, because it's simply false (Chaucer's Canterbury Tales are great and Medieval and later). I'll change it to "one of the greatest," which should work better. As to the "Renaissance" claim, I'll leave it in for now, but I think the anonymous editor had a point there; it's a common enough claim, but it's dubious and would be more satisfactory if explained with references, at least so that the reader knows how much a stretch it is in some ways. Wareh 23:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

A question about Twinkle..

Hey, I just noticed "Twinkle" and I created my own /monobook.js file and I wanted to know how exactly to use it since you seem to use it also. Tell me, after I add the first bit of code what do I do next? Here's my monobook.js page. Can you tell me what i'm missing to make it work? User:Wikidudeman/monobook.jsWikidudeman ^(talk) 23:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Animal style

Hi, This is given a "main article" link in Migration period art yet, though old, it is a very poor stub & much less full than the section in Migration period art. Either the stub should be zapped, or the fuller text copied over - or some sort of swop even. What do you think? Johnbod 17:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to keep what is currently in the Migration period art article since it forms a full article. Copying the whole section to the Animal Style article is fine also - it would be a dup - over time the AS article may be more fully "fleshed out", then it may be possible to go back to the Migration Period article and re-write it so it matches up with the main article. Unless you want to re-write the AS article from scratch which is fine too. -- Stbalbach 03:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

No - it's not an area I know much about. I'll copy it over, and delete the Main article tag for the moment, as it won't give the reader any extra Johnbod 03:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I might not be able to help expanding that Anglo-Saxon art though. Oh dear. Johnbod 04:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Two finger salute

"I can't tell what your up to with this article, creating a section title called "LiV" (what is that, a secret code?) and an edit comment of "1 + 2 = OR :)" it doesn't look like a good faith effort to improve the article. Just because you found some old pictures of people with two fingers raised doesn't mean they are giving a "two-finger salute" as it is described in the article. If you can find a source which says these pictures are of a two-finger salute then please do so. -- Stbalbach 13:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC) "

I like to explain you, that "OR" - you asking is not a secret code but I wanted 'it' to mean WP:OR. I just do not believe, that you believe, that counting is OR. Do You? I believe research may start from counting, lets say, above 10k but not counting below 5 or 4. I understand you worry that the two fingers may mean something secret, but I hope, I did not reveal any secrets .... | /

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Category:Western art

"Western art" is an extremely broad catch - any category of that name should be composed almost entirely of sub-categories. For example I see you are adding very specific articles such as Ottonian art, which is already a sub-cat of Medieval art, which should then be a sub-cat of western art. -- Stbalbach 05:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm work my way to that. Thanks for keeping an eye on things! [>>sparkit|TALK<<] 05:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC) (please respond on my talk page)

Illuminated manuscripts Categorisation

Hi, I don't know if you are interested in the discussion going on at the IM talk page [5]. Any comments welcome. Johnbod 21:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: USMC film list

You have commented on the AFD discussion for List of films featuring United States Marines, the discussion can be viewed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films featuring United States Marines.

Following support for my suggestion, I have done a userspace rewrite of the article at User:Saberwyn/Films featuring the United States Marine Corps, with the rewritten article in the top half and the current article with annotations as to their inclusion or non-inclusion in the rewritten list.

I would like to request that you review the rewritten article, and if you think it is appropriate, amend your stance at the AFD discussion. -- saberwyn 12:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Ars moriendi / manuscripts

Hi, I'm not sure the rock songs aren't a price worth paying to avoid a disam page, which I suspect is the alternative! A better section title is needed, as "derivative" is presumably over-stating it - "Modern works entitled AM" maybe. The article as it stands doesn't quite bear out your edit summary statement that it was a phrase in general use. What do you think?

Btw there is ongoing debate on sub-classifying Illuminated manuscripts here, if you're interested. Cheers Johnbod 16:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Well there are two ways to look at it: derivative and adaptation. The first is a minor, perhaps even unintentional inclusion of a piece of a work in another work (the name, some element); the second is a re-make or adaptation of the work, keeping it mostly intact. I am fine with the second case, but derivatives are too open ended and indiscriminate per WP:NOT; without contextual description linking the derivative work to the original in some meaningful and notable way, it is trivia to even mention it. Most of those derivative works really had nothing to do with the original work, except in name only, which could be summed up in the article in one sentence: "Many songs, video games and other popular culture works use the same name." This whole thing is currently being worked out right now and is a hot topic of discussion, many "in pop culture" articles are being deleted. I have mixed views on it.

I read the IM category discussions above - I try to avoid category work as I find it confusing, overwhelming and frustrating, but trust you will come up with something, I will be happy to follow. I'm glad to see DMS involved as he is pretty knowledgeable. If you need a vote let me know. -- Stbalbach 22:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - it seems to be coming round ok I hope. Johnbod 22:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Kong-Public Domain

Is there a particular reason why my edit to the King Kong page was removed? Kong is no longer in the public domain. His rights are split up between Time Warner, Universal, and the Cooper estate. The book Living Dangerously goes into detail how the Cooper estate fought to get the rights to the King Kong character back, and how the rights are split up among 3 parties. Alot has changed since the early 1980's. Furthmore why was my pinball machine add deleted?Giantdevilfish 19:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I reverted vandalism and didn't scroll down to see there was a good edit in there. -- Stbalbach 22:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

That's Ok. Thanks for the revert.Giantdevilfish 22:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Hun

What I wrote eralier today about the term being applied by RFC fliers to their German foe as being friendly and not derogatory has been removed. Why? Regards, Skipper

Skipper, regarding this sentence:

"..the English Royal Flying Corps (First World War) referred to their foe affectionately as "The Hun". It is true that actually no offence was indeed intended on the most part by the British but the Germans did themselves find it offensive.

From everything I know about propaganda in WWI, the Germans were called Huns to stoke up hatred against the Germans - stories were created about Germans eating babies and other similar atrocities, particularly as they went through the low countries. Even if certain members of society were more enlightened, such as the RFC who used the term with "no offence intended", it seems like trivia to the main importance that the term was derogatory. We shouldn't list all the exceptions of people who used the term "affectionately" (anyway, how can one be affectionate towards someone your trying to kill?). -- Stbalbach 20:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Firstly thnaks for the response and I appreciate the point of view you are trying to put across. Nevertheless, I feel I must point out that while I used the RFC as a specific example, it was not just them that used the term without offense intended. Regrading your quetsion on how you can refer affectionately to someone you are trying to kill obviously I best elaborate. For me too it is difficult to understand as after all they were at war with each other but a strange bond existed between both sides as both new they could plunge to their deaths in a ball of flames. I speak from the British perspective when I say that they, atleast in the early years, treated it as a sport and were just as sadened to think of killing a German pilot as when they lost one of there on. In fact, some pilots were actually devestated on achieveing their first kill as, although they ahd achieved their aim, they did not actually hate their enemy as maybe the foot soldiers in the trenches did.

Therefore I request that perhaps it would be worth a dding a short paragraph explaining that not all of British Society felt this way. If neccesary I will type it and I can quote sources and give examples. Thanks again for your earlier response and I look forwrad to your reply.

Warm regards,

Skipper

Wilgefortis

Your edits on this are a bit problemmatic - the robed Christ is as much a Western type as Eastern, but in both areas it had been superceded by the loin-cloth by the C11th (with odd exceptions - the Theodore Psalter (Byzantine) of 1066 is the last Schiller shows). It was the West that had a concern over nudity; in the East the type was apparently designed to show Christ wearing the Collobium to show his royal status (not a feature of the original Volto Santo). There are numerous Insular examples including Muiredach's High Cross (other side from picture) and St. Gall Gospel Book, an C8th wall-painting in Rome & so on. The Volto Santo (when not dressed up for parading) shows more the Western type of plain tunic.

Also, I have not seen any examples of the lead figures & can't confirm they have survived. This was a very typical type of cheapish pilgrim souvenir & their existence may have been assumed - Hall does not specify. Schiller has pics of pectoral crosses, in gold, bronze etc. I don't like lumping the large wooden crosses with the small ones, as it seems unlikely the large crosses would have caused any misunderstanding, unlike the small ones. It would also seem more likely that the dealers you have removed caused the problem than pilgrims etc - another source I have seen in the past (Emile Male?) blames it all on them. I can't get the Volto Santo pic at the article to open btw. Cheers Johnbod 18:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Responded on the talk page and made some edits. Might be multiple views that need to be incorporated. If you think my sources are mistaken we can remove entirely, they are not authoritative or detailed. -- Stbalbach 19:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

ok, I'll copy an edited version of this to the talk page too. In general Schiller is pretty authoritative & detailed - theres no question there was a Byzantine type of robed crucifix, but whether the VS is an example of it is questionable. 20:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hey Stbalbach,

Someone has taken down most of the article on Saladin. Can you look into what is going on?Mk26gmls 16:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

    Silverwhistle got it fixed a few minutes ago, though it might not last long.  Thank you.Mk26gmls 17:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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I think you are in error so rarely, that it's worth contacting you. I have added this article to the Category:Historiography. I don't think the three paragraphs on changing perspectives in the history of ideas are any good, but I feel the subject of changing historiographic assessment needs to be available somewhere at Wikipedia, and linked from a concise version at Migration Period. I am sorry to have reverted your deletion, which seems like a coarse act. But Voelkerwanderung redirects to Migration Period. How should this be best handled? I'm not competent to write the historiographic account myself. You might well be, however... --Wetman 23:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it may have been a rash move. Thanks for the note. I'll keep my eye out for a source that discusses it. -- Stbalbach 23:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

There'd be some bibliography in the second part of Hanno Helbing's Goten und Wandalen: Wandlung der historischen Realität (Zurich) 1954, and there must be coverage in Donald R. Kelley, Fortunes of History: Historical Inquiry from Herder to Huizinga. Some main historians of the Romantic Volkwerwandung view might be ranged in relation to Theodor Gaupp's romantic nationalist view and Felix Dahn's view of echt German political virtues, corrected by Fustel de Coulanges and by Paul-Émile Littré. But I haven't read any of the old texts. --Wetman 05:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Gutenberg links

Hrm, I thought I had only removed Gutenberg links when a link was provided that offered the identical texts at Wikisource as well - if I made a mistake, I apologise. However, if both sites do offer identical texts, there is no point to the redundancy, just like we don't provide a link to "every" site that also lists Mark Mcgwire's career stats Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 19:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

It's really a matter of opinion that the texts are identical. Even if they are clear cut and paste, some people prefer to work with Gutenberg because they often have multiple versions available, or even the format of a plain text file with no formatting. Also some of the links you deleted were author links which go to more than a single work. -- Stbalbach 19:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Nat Turner

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Its Cappadocian, not Roman http://demo.lutherproductions.com/historytutor/basic/early/stories/evangel_goths.htm LOM

Better to resolve this on Talk:Goths. Wulfila's own ancestors came from Cappadocia (Philostorgius says from Sadagolthina, near Parnassus) but other prisoners from other areas may have also brought Christianity. Jacob Haller 01:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Cilice edit

Hi - why did you revert my edit? It was clearly relevant information. Please reply on my talk page. Thanks, Breadandroses 16:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Consolation of Philosophy

Over two years ago you added a passage to the Consolation of Philosophy: "To quote V.E. Watts on Boethius..." Subsequently someone added a reference to the Oxford translation of the Consolation, rather than the Watts (Penguin) translation. Could you please straighten out the minor confusion here (preferably by citing the page). Thanks --SteveMcCluskey 22:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for picking that up. -- Stbalbach 01:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Acre, Israel

left some historical accounts for you on [7]. Jaakobou 11:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Close to 3RR

Just so you know, you are close to a 3RR violation on Historiography. I just gave User:TallulahBelle a block for 3RR for reverting 4 times, and you are at 3 reverts right now. If the edit is truly undesirable, let the other editors revert it. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 23:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Stanford Review

Why did you revert this article? I made corrections to correct inaccuracies. The Editor-in-Chief has changed. You can verify this information on the website if you would like. Please reinstate the changes that I made. Tckrtckr 23:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Stacking

Please see my reply on my talk page. ●DanMS • Talk 01:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopédie

Please address Talk:Encyclopédie#Beaten with cane?. `'mikka 01:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Coquest of England

William III seems to be a conquest to me. Rjm at sleepers 16:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Lucan

Just wanted you to know (since the anon IP editor didn't sign his notice of the botched move) that it wasn't I who "moved" the Lucan article. Nevertheless, I still think that "Lucan (poet)" is the right place for it, per the most common English form of the name. Deor 01:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

old edit

Hi Stbalbach, do you remember where you got the information for this edit. I know it was a long time ago, but we should either add a ref for some of this stuff or else remove it, particularly the part about the military service. Thanks. --Duk 14:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I re-added one ref that had a dead link (found another url for it). But I still can't find a reference for your edit He left South Africa without his parents' support, in part because he wished to avoid compulsory service in the South African military. Do you remember where you found that? --Duk 14:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

All from 1999 Salon, page 3. -- Stbalbach 15:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Book collecting

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Medieval and Renaissance

I realize that there are no fixed boundaries for these categories, and that sometimes the Renaissance is even entirely encapsulated within the "Middle Ages". However, for the purposes of Wikipedia categories, it helps to have some general boundaries; and "Renaissance" in terms of categorizing Latin literature and authors need not have the exact same meaning as it does in, say, politics or art or architecture or even vernacular literatures. 1300 is a vague boundary, and if a person or text is within a couple of decades on either side, one could justify placing the article into both "Medieval" and "Renaissance" categories. But 1400+ is rather late. You could have a stab at classifying texts by style of language, as being more or less classicizing or humanist-influenced, but a classification by dates is really much simpler. RandomCritic 16:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about "simple" but each work/author should be looked at based on how modern scholarship approaches it. Is it most commonly studied and used by Medieval scholars or early modern/renaissance studies? Very often both, sometimes clearly one or the other. Petrarch and the Divine Comedy is a good example, that is both a Medieval work and a Renaisscance work, depending on who you talk too. It would be jarring for someone on Wikipedia to see it in the Ren. category and not the Med. category, or vice versa, depending on what perspective they are coming from. -- Stbalbach 16:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I think you're placing an interpretation on the categories which they are not intended to have. The categories in question (Category:Renaissance Latin authors, Category:Medieval Latin authors) are not attempts to say whether so and so is active in the Renaissance or the Middle Ages, or whether they are dealt with in medieval studies or early modern studies departments. They are part of Category:Latin authors by era, which is solely concerned with classifying authors writing by the period of time they wrote in (see further History of Latin). Nothing stops Petrarch from being classified as an author of Renaissance Latin and being classified, at the same time, as a member of Category:Medieval writers, for instance. As Petrarch stands at the head of the movement for the revival of Latin letters, in both stylistic as well as chronological terms, he'd be classified as a "Renaissance Latin author", associating his Latin (not necessarily anything else about him) more with Erasmus or Piccolomini than with Aquinas or Abelard. RandomCritic 16:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Movement of Washington's Distillery section in American Whiskey Trail article

Stbalbach, See that you moved the Washington's Distillery information to the Mount Vernon article. Obviously, it could go there. Seems to me that the information is directly relevant to this American Whiskey Trail article, especially in light of the intent of the Trail (from the wikipedia article) : "...is a cultural heritage and tourism initiative of the Distilled Spirits Council in cooperation with historic Mount Vernon...". The existence of an operational distillery, and the uniqueness of the product sales at the gift shop, seems to me to be a sound case for that information being here. - Thaimoss 00:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC) talk

In fact, now that I've read the additional commentary you placed in the Mount Vernon article (which is great additional info), I'm even more of the opinion that it should go in the Whiskey Trail article. I think it should go in both. - Thaimoss 00:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The trail article is about the trail. Individual distilleries have their own articles and are linked too from the main trail article. We should not replicate each distillery in the trail article, it leads to fragmentation and confusion as editors update one article and not another over time. -- Stbalbach 00:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'm not much of a purist on the "fragmentation" issue, being more inclined to note that certain facts are sometimes relevant to more than one article, but I will acknowledge that specifics can become out of sync over time, as you point out. In this case, I hadn't concluded that the individual distilleries have their own pages, as Washington's clearly doesn't, and only 2 of the 7 on the list do. In any event, I'll leave it as it as you left it in light of your reasoning. - Thaimoss 00:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Status of the EB at FAC?

Hi Stbalbach,

Is the Encyclopædia Britannica now OK? I tried to amend the parts of the article proper that you cited in your review at FAC. Could we hold off on developing the other article, Encyclopædia Britannica Online? It would be a lot more work. :( Please let me know at least what I should do to win your support; thanks! Willow 23:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Stephen,

If your concerns have all been addressed, could you please change your Oppose vote to Support? If they haven't, could you please say what's left to do? Thank you very much, and sorry for being such a pest, Willow 17:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The article keeps changing so much I have waited to see what happens but it seems to be OK my major concerns are addressed, some content issues but that can be handled on the talk page regardless of FA. -- Stbalbach 03:53, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the Support and also for your good insights; I think the article is much better for them. I'll try to address any concerns you have whenever they occur to you. :) Willow 07:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Sutton Hoo peer review

Hi Stephen, Thanks for pointing me towards those comments by Ruhrfish, which are fair but based partly on his (understandable) lack of knowledge of the reasons for my failure to express myself more clearly! Im slightly out of action at present having recently sustained a bereavement (father) and soon afterwards a little cluster of heart attacks! And some medical intervention. Rather dramatic I know, but regrettably unavoidable so at present using internet cafe facilities in remote location. Some of R's comments (about the 'modern legend') are to stuff which I left unaltered from an older vsn in txt. The odd numbering of the mounbds is in order to deal with them thematically and chronologically, since these numbers are archaeological excavation numbers, not historico-sequential. Inevitably they are random. Thematically they are in a sound order as I have presented them. Maybe it needs to say so in a brief sentence. not sure how to proceed but Ill have another look when I get back home after my convalescence. FAS is not specially important to me provided the text is informative and useful, which i think it is. It is anyway generally impossible to please more than a few people at any one time, but I accept there is room for improvement and clarification, so long as it is not along the rather silly lines of 'deal with each mound by number!!!!' Dr Steven Plunkett 18:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note and good wishes, points taken. I seem to be on the mend, slowly! Cheers, Dr Steven Plunkett 09:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Why are you deleting the link to the school in the Mark Twain article? Burnedthru 19:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Crusader sources

Have you read any of the "Crusades" journals published by Ashgate? Volume 3 (2004) has an amazing article by Hebrew University history Prof. Benjamin J. Kedar about the siege of Jerusalem. It discusses every single European, Muslim, Jewish chronicle/letter (past and present) that you could ever think about in regards to that event. There are several that I have never heard of, but are still very important. (Ghostexorcist 19:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC))

I noticed that the first crusade page barely mentions that Raymon's account of the blood flowing up to the horses' bridals came from Apocalypse 14:20. I would like to expand this. I took some info from the above journal and wrote the following paragraph:

In 1969 John Hugh Hill and Laurita L. Hill descovered the chronicle of Raymond IV of Toulouse (as well as all other sources) which mentioned the blood of fallen saracens welling to the horses’ bridals was taken directly from the bible verse Apocalypse 14:20 (“And the press was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the press, up to the horses' bridles, for a thousand and six hundred furlongs.”) In 1974 the Hills wrote “We cannot understand why writers of modern textbooks repeat this story without indicating its source, unless they are ignorant of it.” Hebrew University Professor Benjamin J. Kedar later asked the hypothetical question, “But is it not more likely that blood puddles in the Mosque of al-Aqsa were indeed ankle-high at some points and that the ecstatic Raymond—and only he—chose to lend grandeur to the scene by using the words of the Apocalypse?”

I would like to insert it into the page, but I'm not sure how. Do you think you could help me out? (Ghostexorcist 03:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC))

Kipper

Since the ip address feels so strongly about this, I've reverted the edit back to his version. Do not change it back yet, but put your arguments on the talk page of the article, and hopefully he or you will be persuaded. I've warned the user not to make personal attacks so there is no worries about that happening. --KZ^{Talk• Contribs} 00:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I see he personally attacked you as well. I wouldn't be so forgiving of that kind of behavior because it will just continue and get worse, but I added my comments and rationale and we'll see what happens. This is not the type of "expert" we want on Wikipedia if they can't behave with some professionalism, or even common courtesy. -- Stbalbach 14:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Polling is evil

Please don't do this again. We have barely discussed the issue, you have provided no arguments about the actual article content and I'm sure you know that Wikipedia is not a democracy. Solve issues by providing arguments, not by seeking support through voting. And, no, it doesn't matter if you call it a poll or not, it's still going to be seen as voting on the issue.

Peter ^Isotalo 15:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Stephen!

A quiet time for celebration

Hi Stephen,

I just wanted to thank you for your good insights on the Encyclopædia Britannica, which reached Featured Article status. Your suggestions and insights were critical, and made some of the most significant structural improvements in the article, such as the rearrangement of sections and the addition of the criticism section. Collaborating with you was a pleasure, which perhaps we'll repeat sometime? As you probably remember from courtly love, I've a soft spot for medieval love poetry, especially the Minnesänger: Der Drake Tag, Sine klawen durch de wolken sint geslagen, Er stiget uf med grozer kraft... So beautiful. Willow 16:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

As to Peasants

Stbalbach,

You may have a greater familiarity towards this topic than do I. And if so, if you would be so kind as to add where several statements throughout the article originate within the references listed below, that will greatly help towards the integrity of the article. I may be in error, however it upon first and second glance appears to have several original (uncited) statements that seem to merit an unreferenced tag. Apprecitate you time. Mister Fax 18:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Marine Corps article

Nice link, and well tagged in the raw text. Thanks! Teke 05:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Threats on Wikipedia

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Hello. I too noticed your report on Wikiquette and I agree with the above note. I want to mention another point. You are using your real name as your user name. It may be a good idea for you to change your user name to something more anonymous. There is a procedure for this, described at Wikipedia:Changing username. It requires help from a higher-level administrative offical, but if they agree with your concerns, you can have a new user name and still keep your Wikipedia identity and edit history, etc.

The articles you've been editing seem to have a lot of anonymous edits from IP users who have not set up accounts, and many of them don't sign their posts. That means there it's difficult for much to be done to affect their behavior since they are not acting as part of the community, so community sanctions would not be important to them. The IP's could be blocked, but they change all the time so that's only a temporary solution. The best thing for safety would be to protect your anonymity by removing your real name from Wikipedia.

If you change your user name, you would have the option of informing your wikipedia friends of your new user name so you don't lose your community connections.

I agree about also reporting the threats at WP:ANI (Administrator's notice board), but when you do, it would be best if you can provide more recent examples. The ones you showed us were from February. The Adminisrators will be more responsive to your request if your incident is happening right now.

In the meantime, even with your current user name, you should remove your full name from the introduction on your user page. --Parzival418 18:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Over 24,000 edits

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		For amassing over 24,000 edits, over 17,000 of which are in the article namespace[9], I award you the tireless contributor barnstar. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 14:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

A Book is a Book

Re: Slocum's book

The man wrote a BOOK; he didn't write "travel literature". He was a crusty old sea-faring bastard who wrote a BOOK. He wasn't a fairy-assed travel agent or brochure-writer for Conde Nast. Got it? Now if you want to put "see also 'travel literature'" at the end, well, so be it. Otherwise, get over yourself, and quit "fixing" what isn't broke.

Another thing: What is this "standard date technique" bilge you're selling? Until you show me where this is documented, I'll assume that it's something you've made up to sound "authoritative". PeterHuntington 15:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Gaston Paris and amour courtois

The simple facts that Paris coined the term amour courtois (the single occurence of cortez amors in a medieval Provençal poem [not "one or two extant sources"], of which Paris may well have been unaware, doesn't negate this) and that all English usages of the term "courtly love" descend from Paris's coinage suggest that you're stretching a bit to state that "the term existed before Paris was around." I'm not sure what you're trying to claim, but there's no evidence that the concept of "courtly love" (so named, and with the characteristics defined by Paris) existed before Paris set them forth in his essay. Deor 01:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Decameron

Hey, I felt the article was pushing an opinion of the work and tried to do a little clean up. Did I cut out too much text? 68.49.91.17 23:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:Lead in Spanish Inqiusition

I made an attempt at a WP:Lead as you suggested. Please see if it works, can be fixed, or whether it needs to be reverted. :) DanielDemaret 06:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Rousseau

(Text from my talk page). Thanks for the comment. I try to keep an eye out for vandalism on this (Rousseau) page and will continue to monitor. On the substantive issue between us, I think the point you wanted to make is actually dealt with later in the relevant paragraph (namely the fact that the "natural goodness" doctrine doesn't imply moral goodness). Bristoleast 11:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Frame story

Sorry to ask, but is it the case that the Witzel article name-checks the Decameron and traces a direct ancestry? If so, a quote would be nice, because it seems like a tall-ish claim. Hornplease 21:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Movement to impeach George Bush article

I noticed you have been active on this article for years and would like to catch up with the discussions and maybe help get things moving again. I posted to the talk page a couple of times with no comments. I am new to the article and think that I can add and help with the article but I have to figure out how to catch up with things. Would you mind telling me the easiest way to catch up without having to read two years of archives? Also, when you get time, would you pop in and see if I just made a fool out of myself with suggestions that may have already been discussed and dismissed in the past. Can you tell I'm a pretty new editor and slow at that! :) Thanks have a good day,--Crohnie 12:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to disclose, which I like to do on articles like this, that I am anti-Bush and would be happy to have him impeached. I am telling you this so that my POV is known though I think I can still be helpful and telling both sides of the story. --Crohnie 12:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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Dispute resolution

I'll seek other avenues. Sorry. --Ronz 19:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Movement to impeach George W. Bush

Discuss it on the articles talk page. Not to happy with you right now. You have people from all sides of the political spectrum who agree and disagree with the article saying the article is pov and you go off on saying we are attacking the articles content. Then you ever so hintingly say people are sockpuppeting. Stick to the issue on the talk page. The issue is the pov slant of the article and its utter lack of any views of the opposing side. --Xiahou 21:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

lol, well sock puppets are nothing new to the article, and *your* issue of lack of "opposing sides" is not other peoples issue or reason for the pov tag. Nor is it clear that such an article would even be appropriate for wikipedia. Lots of hand waving going on and not much specifics. -- Stbalbach 11:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Homage

Is there a reason why you remove the graphic representation of homage off the homage page, without comment? --David Shankbone 13:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the general modern English meaning and the specific historical meaning are different subjects. Moved to a new article for better organization of cat's, see also's and of course pictures. -- Stbalbach 14:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Decline of the Roman Empire

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Daniel Defoe

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Goliards

The Goliards entry states that: "The Goliards faced retribution from the Church. In 1227 the Council of Treves forbade them from taking part in the chanting service. In 1229 Goliards played a part in disturbances at the University of Paris in connection with intrigues of the papal legate. They were the subject of numerous Church councils, notably in 1289 where it was ordered "no clerks shall be jongleurs, goliards or buffons" and in 1300 at Cologne when they were forbidden to preach or engage in the indulgence traffic. Often the "privileges of clergy" were withdrawn entirely from the Goliards." As you first wrote the 1129 strike article, I wonder if you had heard about that, or if you knew about any references about it. Cheers! Tazmaniacs 00:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Sutton Hoo marauders!

Dear Steven, I wonder if the text I have just written on The Dig (novel) might be of interest to you? Someone has kindly suggested it for a DYK, though unfortunately the Wikiproject Novels folk don't rate what I have said much... I certainly don't want to get into a dispute with them, though the person who posted the Project template on the article discussion page gave me a ticking off for thinking I owned the text (see mine and their discussion pages)! Do you have any suggestions perhaps? I wonder if I should relocate the entire text of this new article into a different article called something like 'Sutton Hoo in Fiction' or (better) 'Sutton Hoo Fictions'. Then it would not be exposed to the fair criticism that it is masquerading as a description of a novel, and would fall outside the concerns of the Wikiproject.

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Cheers, Steve, it was fun while it lasted. Thanks for your real positive support and encouragement over the months. I'm leaving the room now, but I hope you will keep the article we worked on together under your scrutiny - I'll be watching but not joining in. Whatever the peer review guys thought (and frankly that doesn't always get it right, for or against), it was (and is still, by the skin of its teeth) a good article and a useful one. Best wishes, the other Steven Dr Steven Plunkett 19:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Good to see you back

I'd thought I han't seen you on the watchlist, & happened to see you on a history just now, & checked the contributions. Hope everything ok. All the best Johnbod 02:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. No problem, just became consuming and too much time from other parts of life. There is a lot of freedom on Wikipedia, it's an honor system, and the community behaves more like a culture of honor (ie. the Wild West, the Scottish border regions, Appalachia), than a culture of law. Cultures of honor have advantages, but also disadvantages, mainly it encourages people to quick to anger, quick to fight, to form cabals, to defend honor by their own wits because of the lack of law enforcement, which is self-destructive for the individual and ultimately the community. Wikipedia is also egalitarian which again has its advantages, but Communism was egalitarian, and it bred certain types of people who were bullies and abused power, self-important ideologues with little talent or knowledge. Cultures of honor and egalitarianism are the opposite of modern Democratic states, the appeal is great for many of us stuck in a ridged culture of law and professional authoritarianism, but history has shown that communities based on cultures of honor and egalitarianism don't last, and often go down in spectacular ways.

It may just be me who is tired of it, but there are many like me who worked for years and eventually dropped out, or became less active - as Wikipedia or something like it becomes more important over the years these issues will have to be resolved (anonymous editors, expert editors, rule enforcement, etc...) I just don't see how a "Wild West" Wikipedia can ever be taken seriously - it's anti-intellectual. Anyway, I still make occasional edits here and there. I hope you don't mind me using this chance to express my thoughts after a few months away from Wikipedia to reflect. Thanks for your note! -- Stbalbach 21:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hey Stbalbach, I don't know if you are still around (I'm guessing not), but if you are, I've created a Crusades task force as part of the Middle Ages WikiProject. I'd appreciate any help in getting it started! Adam Bishop (talk) 09:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hey stballacbh, I don't know if your going to read this since you've been gone for a while. I know this was more then a year ago, but after reading our argument on the Talk:Hormuzd_Rassam, I would like to apologize for my strong (and unhelpful) tone. Please accept my apology. Chaldean (talk) 05:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hello,

About eight thousand years ago, you asked a question on the page for Les Rougon-Macquart; I have finally noticed and answered it. The nine Rougon-Macquart novels with modern (i.e. post-1980) translations in print when you asked the question were L'Assommoir, Nana, Pot-Bouille, Au Bonheur des Dames, Germinal, L'Oeuvre, La Terre, La Bete Humaine and La Debacle. Since then, OUP have issued new translations of La Curée and Le Ventre de Paris for a total of eleven. (And Therese Raquin also has a modern translation in print.) Sorry for the long (long!) delay. Fosse8 (talk) 15:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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Magna Carta talk page

Hi Stbalbach. I added a request at the Magna Carta talk page. Please take a look. Thanks. Suntag (talk) 16:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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Query about travel writing criticism

Stephen, Thanks for your kind words about my addition to the Travel Literature WP section.

I would recommend you contact Tim Youngs at Nottingham Trent or check out his books on travel writing criticism--they have fairly solid bibliographies (feel free to Google-Book the bibliographies). In general, the rule of thumb is to go to the latest book of travel writing criticism and turn to the bibliography. There you should see the updated list of works in this bourgeoning field.

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A question

In the article on Homage you have created :

The oath known as "fealty" implied lesser obligations than did "homage". Further, one could swear "fealty" to many different overlords with respect to different land holdings, but "homage" could only be performed to a single liege, as one could not be "his man", i.e. committed to military service, to more than one "liege lord".

Not entirely correct, for example:

County of Flanders streched acroos the river Scheldt, which was the boundary between Holy Roman Empire and France.

Thus Count of Flanders took oath of fealty and homage to both HRE Emperor(lands on the west bank of Scheldt) and King of France(lands on the east bank of Scheldt)

Can you explain this ?

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This [10] seems to have led to this, [11] -- you have clout! Merry Christmas! -- JohnWBarber (talk) 04:18, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

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Webinar / edit-a-thon at the National Library of Medicine (NLM)

Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

organized by Wiki Project Med

On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use.

Please go to the event page to get more information, including a detailed program schedule.

If you are interested in participating, please register by sending an email to pmhmeet@gmail.com. Please indicate if you are coming in person or if you will be joining us via the webinar. After registering, you will receive additional information about how to get to our campus (if coming in-person) and details about how to join the webinar. Klortho (talk) 06:09, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Have time on Saturday?

I'm sorry for the last-minute notice, but on Saturday, June 8, from 3 to 6 PM, Wikimedia DC and the Cato Institute are hosting a Legislative Data Meetup. We will discuss the work done so far by WikiProject U.S. Federal Government Legislative Data to put data from Congress onto Wikipedia, as well as what more needs to be done. If you have ideas you'd like to contribute, or if you're just curious and feel like meeting up with other Wikipedians, you are welcome to come! Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

I hope to see you there!

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Harej (talk) 04:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, June 15!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, June 15 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 20:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Join us this Sunday for the Great American Wiknic!

	Great American Wiknic DC at Meridian Hill Park
	You are invited to the Great American Wiknic DC at the James Buchanan Memorial at Meridian Hill Park. We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck! :)

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Navboxes on author pages

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, July 13!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, July 13 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 00:51, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

You're Invited: Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the Smithsonian

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Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the Smithsonian American Art Museum You're invited to the Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon, part of a series of edit-a-thons organized by the Smithsonian American Art Museum to add and expand articles about American art and artists on Wikipedia. This event will include a catered lunch and special tours of the Luce Foundation Center for American Art and the Lunder Conservation Center at the Smithsonian American Art Museum. 9:15 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. on Friday, July 19, 2013 Smithsonian American Art Museum Meet at G Street Lobby (9th St. & G St. NW, Washington, D.C.) Capacity is limited, so please sign up today! If you would not like to receive future messages about meetups, please remove your name from our distribution list. Message delivered by Dominic·t 03:12, 12 July 2013 (UTC).

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, August 24!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, August 24 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 04:32, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you free on Wednesday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Wednesday, August 24 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 12:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Meet up with local Wikipedians on September 14!

Are you free on Saturday, September 14? If so, please join Wikimedia DC and local Wikipedians for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages are welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please visit the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 19:26, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you free next Thursday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next WikiSalon, which will be held from 7 to 9 PM on Thursday, September 5 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon is an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 15:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you free next Thursday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next WikiSalon, which will be held from 7 to 9 PM on Thursday, September 26 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon is an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 06:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Are you free on Sunday? Join us for a special Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for a special WikiSalon at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Library's Digital Commons Center. We will gather at 3 PM on Sunday, October 13, 2013 to discuss an important topic: what can Wikipedia and the DC area do to help each other? We hope to hear your thoughts and suggestions; if you have an idea you would like to pursue, please let us know and we will help!

Following the WikiSalon, we will be having dinner at a nearby restaurant, Ella's Wood Fired Pizza.

If you're interested in attending, please sign up at the event page. We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 02:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Meetups coming up in DC!

Hey!

You are invited to two upcoming events in DC:

• Meetup at Capitol City Brewery on Saturday, January 25 at 6 PM. Please join us for dinner, drinks, socializing, and discussing Wikimedia DC activities and events. All are welcome! RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.
• Art and Feminism Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, February 1 from Noon – 5 PM. Join us as we improve articles on notable women in history! All are welcome, regardless of age or level of editing experience. RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.

I hope to see you there!

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Harej (talk) 00:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Coming up in February!

Hello there!

Our February WikiSalon is coming up on Sunday, February 23. Join us at our gathering of Wikipedia enthusiasts at the Kogod Courtyard of the National Portrait Gallery with an optional dinner after. As usual, all are welcome. Care to join us?

Also, if you are available, there is an American Art Edit-a-thon being held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum with Professor Andrew Lih's COMM-535 class at American University on Tuesday, February 11 from 2 to 5 PM. Please RSVP on the linked page if you are interested.

If you have any ideas or preferences for meetups, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/DC.

Thank you, and hope to see you at our upcoming events! Harej (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

DC Meetups in March

Happy March!

Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.

Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:

• Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
• March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
• Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!

We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

— Harej (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

An exciting month of wiki events!

Hello there,

I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.

First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.

Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.

On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.

The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.

There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!

All the best,
James Hare

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Two edit-a-thons coming up!

Hello there!

I'm pleased to tell you about two upcoming edit-a-thons:

• This Tuesday, April 29, from 2:30 to 5:30 PM, we have the Freer and Sackler edit-a-thon. (Sorry for the short notice!)
• On Saturday, May 10 we have the Wikipedia APA edit-a-thon, in partnership with the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center, from 10 AM to 5 PM.

We have more stuff coming up in May and June, so make sure to keep a watch on the DC meetup page. As always, if you have any recommendations or requests, please leave a note on the talk page.

Best,

James Hare

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Meet up with us

Happy May!

There are a few meetups in DC this month, including an edit-a-thon later this month. Check it out:

• On Thursday, May 15 come to our evening WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle. If you're available Thursday evening, feel free to join us!
• Or if you prefer a Saturday night dinner gathering, we also have our May Meetup at Capitol City Brewing Company. (Beer! Non-beer things too!)
• You are also invited to the Federal Register edit-a-thon at the National Archives later this month.

Come one, come all!

Best,

James Hare

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Washington, DC meetups in June

Greetings!

Wikimedia DC has yet another busy month in June. Whether you're a newcomer to Wikipedia or have years of experience, we're happy to see you come. Here's what's coming up:

• On Wednesday, June 11 from 7 to 9 PM come to the WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space. Hang out with Wikipedia enthusiasts!
• Saturday, June 14 is the Frederick County History Edit-a-Thon from 11 AM to 4 PM. Help improve local history on Wikipedia.
• The following Saturday, June 21, is the June Meetup. Dinner and drinks with Wikipedians!
• Come on Tuesday, June 24 for the Wikipedia in Your Library edit-a-thon at GWU on local and LGBT history.
• Last but not least, on Sunday, June 29 we have the Phillips Collection Edit-a-Thon in honor of the Made in America exhibit.

Wikipedia is better with friends, so why not come out to an event?

Best,

James Hare

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The Great American Wiknic and other events in July

I am pleased to announce our fourth annual picnic, the Great American Wiknic, will take place at Meridian Hill Park in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, July 13 from 1 to 5 PM (rain date: July 20). We will be hanging out by the statue of Dante Alighieri, a statue that was donated to the park in 1921 as a tribute to Italian Americans. Read more about the statue on Wikipedia. If you would like to sign up for the picnic, you can do so here. When signing up, say what you’re going to bring!

July will also feature the second annual Great American Wiknic in Frederick, Maryland. This year’s Frederick picnic will take place on Sunday, July 6 at Baker Park. Sign up here for the Frederick picnic.

What else is going on in July? We have the American Chemical Society Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, July 12, dedicated to notable chemists, and our monthly WikiSalon on Wednesday, July 16.

We hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

James Hare

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Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon!

Greetings!

Sorry for the last minute update, but our friends at the DC Historical Society have scheduled a Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Civil War battle fought in the District. The event will last from noon to 2 PM on Wednesday, July 30. Hope you can make it!

Best,

James Hare

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Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet

Come one and come all. To a presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history.

Picture your self leading the masses to improve Wikimedia one article at a time.

• Show the Internet who is the better editor.
• Be the creator of culture that you know you are.
• Spread the knowledge of noteworthy people who no one but you cares about.
• Lead the charge to a better Wikipedia --- eventually.

Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet

See you at the Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street, Laurel, MD on Thursday, September 11, 2014 at 7:00 PM EST. See http://www.meetup.com/Wikimedia-DC/events/205494212/ for more information. Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia DC invites revolutionaries, free thinkers, and other sundry editors to a DC WikiSalon

The WikiSalon is a special meetup usually held during the first and third full weeks of every month, from 7 PM to 9 PM. It's an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss Wikimedia wikis and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own.

If you're coming by Metro, the closest station is Dupont Circle (on the Red Line). If you're driving, a lot of parking opens up downtown after 6:30 PM, so finding a parking space (even a free one) should be easy. Once you've found the building, go to Cove on the second floor. We will be in the conference room.

When: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM

Where: The Cove, Dupont Circle, 1730 Connecticut Avenue NW, 2nd floor, 20009, DC

For more information, see http://www.meetup.com/Wikimedia-DC/events/205500822/

My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:26, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia DC's Wonderful meetups

Wikimedia DC's Upcoming meetups

• Thursday, September 11: “Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet, One Article at a Time!”

  A presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history. Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street in Laurel, MD. 7 PM.

• Wednesday, September 17: WikiSalon

  Come for the pizza, stay for the conversation. 7 PM – 9 PM

• Saturday, September 20: September Meetup

  Get dinner and drinks with fellow Wikipedians! 6 PM

• Sunday, September 21: Laurel History Edit-a-Thon

  Local history for Wikipedia! 10:15 AM – 4 PM

• Saturday, September 27 – Sunday, September 28: Please RSVP for the Open Government WikiHack at Eventbrite by clicking on the link. The National Archives and Records Administration and Wikimedia DC are teaming up to come up with solutions that help integrate government data into Wikipedia. 10:30 AM – 5 PM each day

My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 22:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

The wonderful annual meeting! And more!

Hello, fellow Wikipedian!

I am excited to announce our upcoming Annual Meeting at the National Archives! We'll have free lunch, an introduction by Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, and a discussion featuring Ed Summers, the creator of CongressEdits. Join your fellow DC-area Wikipedians on Saturday, October 18 from 12 to 4:30 PM. RSVP today!

Also coming up we have the Human Origins edit-a-thon on October 17 and the WikiSalon on October 22. Hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

James Hare

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End-of-the-year meetups

Hello,

You're invited to the end-of-the-year meetup at Busboys and Poets on Sunday, December 14 at 6 PM. There is Wi-Fi, so bring your computer if you want!

You are also invited to our WikiSalon on Thursday, December 18 at 7 PM.

Hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

James Hare

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Museum hacks and museum edits

Hello there!

Upcoming events:

• February 6–8: The third annual ArtBytes Hackathon at the Walters Art Museum! This year Wikimedia DC is partnering with the Walters for a hack-a-thon at the intersection of art and technology, and I would like to see Wikimedia well represented.
• February 11: The monthly WikiSalon, same place as usual. RSVP on Meetup or just show up!
• February 15: Wiki Loves Small Museums in Ocean City. Mary Mark Ockerbloom, with support from Wikimedia DC, will be leading a workshop at the Small Museum Association Conference on how they can contribute to Wikipedia. Tons of representatives from GLAM institutions will be present, and we are looking for volunteers. If you would like to help out, check out "Information for Volunteers".

I am also pleased to announce events for Wikimedia DC Black History Month with Howard University and NPR. Details on those events soon.

If you have any questions or have any requests, please email me at james.harewikimediadc.org.

See you there! – James Hare

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Wikimedia DC celebrates Black History Month, and more!

Hello again!

Not even a week ago I sent out a message talking about upcoming events in DC. Guess what? There are more events coming up in February.

First, as a reminder, there is a WikiSalon on February 11 (RSVP here or just show up) and Wiki Loves Small Museums at the Small Museum Association Conference on February 15 (more information here).

Now, I am very pleased to announce:

• Tuesday, February 17 from 10 AM to 3 PM there will be #WikiTurgy at the University of Maryland. Join fellow theatre enthusiasts for a “mass act of public dramaturgy!”
• Thursday, February 19 from 10 AM to 4 PM we are hosting the Howard University Black History Edit-a-Thon. We are working in partnership with the Moorland-Spingarn Research Center to improve Wikipedia’s coverage of African-American and African diasporic history.
• Tuesday, February 24 from 6 PM to 8 PM we have the Black History Month “First Edit” at NPR. Help improve Wikipedia and help others make their first edit to Wikipedia!
• Finally, our monthly dinner meetup is on Saturday, February 28.

There is going to be a lot going on, and I hope you can come to some of the events!

If you have any questions or need any special accommodations, please let me know.

Regards,

James Hare

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Editing for Women's History in March

Hello,

I am very excited to announce this month’s events, focused on Women’s History Month:

• Sunday, March 8: Women in the Arts 2015 Edit-a-thon – 10 AM to 4 PM

  Women in the Arts and ArtAndFeminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free coffee and lunch served!

  More information • RSVP on Meetup

• Wednesday, March 11: March WikiSalon – 7 PM to 9 PM

  An evening gathering with free-flowing conversation and free pizza.

  More information • RSVP on Meetup (or just show up!)

• Friday, March 13: NIH Women's History Month Edit-a-Thon – 9 AM to 4 PM

  In honor of Women’s History Month, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) is organizing and hosting an edit-a-thon to improve coverage of women in science in Wikipedia. Free coffee and lunch served!

  More information • RSVP on Meetup

• Saturday, March 21: Women in STEM Edit-a-Thon at DCPL – 12 PM

  Celebrate Women's History Month by building, editing, and expanding articles about women in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields during DC Public Library's first full-day edit-a-thon.

  More information • RSVP on Meetup

• Friday, March 27: She Blinded Me with Science, Part III – 10 AM to 4 PM

  Smithsonian Institution Archives Groundbreaking Women in Science Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. Free lunch courtesy of Wikimedia DC!

  More information • RSVP on Meetup

• Saturday, March 28: March Dinner Meetup – 6 PM

  Dinner and drinks with your fellow Wikipedians!

  More information • RSVP on Meetup

Hope you can make it to an event! If you have any questions or require any special accommodations, please let me know.

Thanks,

James Hare

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Upcoming attractions in DC

Hello!

Here are some upcoming DC meetups in April and May:

• Tuesday, April 14: National Archives Hackathon on Wikipedia Space with American University – 2:30-5pm

  See the latest work on the Wikipedia Space exhibit in the new NARA Innovation Hub and brainstorm on new ideas for a public exhibit about Wikipedia

• Friday, April 17: Women in Tech Edit-a-thon with Tech LadyMafia – 5-9pm

  Team up with Tech LadyMafia to improve Wikipedia content on women in the history of technology.

• Saturday, April 25: April Dinner Meetup – 6 PM

  Dinner and drinks with your fellow Wikipedians!

• Friday, May 1: International Labour Day Edit-a-Thon – 1:30 PM to 4:30 PM

  An edit-a-thon at the University of Maryland

Hope to see you at these events! If you have any questions or require any special accommodations, please let me know.

Cheers,

James Hare

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Proposed deletion of Art Museum Image Consortium

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page in the form of "This article meets criteria A and B because..." and ping me back. Thank you,

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ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:48, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

February events and meetups in DC

Greetings from Wikimedia DC!

February is shaping up to be a record-breaking month for us, with nine scheduled edit-a-thons and several other events:

• On Friday, February 12, NPR will host a Black History Month First Edit event.
• On Saturday, February 13 and Sunday, February 14, we're working with the Wiki Education Foundation to hold a series of four edit-a-thons at the AAAS 2016 Annual Meeting.
• On Tuesday, February 16, we're holding the Smithsonian American Art Museum and American University WikiWorkshop with Professor Andrew Lih's class.
• On Saturday, February 20, the Smithsonian American Art Museum will host the African American Artists Edit-a-Thon.
• On Friday, February 26, Howard University will host its second annual Black History Month Edit-a-Thon.
• On Saturday, February 27, we have three different events. In the morning, we're holding an Accessibility Edit-a-Thon at Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Library. In the afternoon, we'll host our second February WikiSalon at Cove Dupont Circle, followed by our monthly dinner meetup at Vapiano.

We hope to see you at one—or all—of these events!

Do you have an idea for a future event? Please write to us at info@wikimediadc.org!

Kirill Lokshin (talk) 16:41, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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March events and meetups in DC

Greetings from Wikimedia DC!

Looking for something to do in DC in March? We have a series of great events planned for the month:

• On Wednesday, March 9, we'll host our first March WikiSalon at Cove Dupont Circle.
• On Friday, March 11, the National Archives will host the Women in the Civil War Edit-a-Thon.
• On Saturday, March 19, the Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian will host the Color History with the Smithsonian! event, and we'll hold our second Accessibility Edit-a-Thon at the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Library.
• On Sunday, March 20, the American Chemical Society will host the Computers in Chemistry Edit-a-Thon.
• On Saturday, March 26, we'll host our second March WikiSalon at Cove Dupont Circle, followed by our monthly dinner meetup at Vapiano.

Can't make it to an event? Most of our edit-a-thons allow virtual participation; see the guide for more details.

Do you have an idea for a future event? Please write to us at info@wikimediadc.org!

Kirill Lokshin (talk) 16:29, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Gothic sculpture

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