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Cites for origins

I certainly agree that WP:V is a foundational principle of Wikipedia, and articles are indeed "standalone". However, I think that -- in the absence of a legitimate controversy -- it is unnecessary to footnote each member of a list of people from Kos, especially well-known ones like Hippocrates. Do you also want to include footnotes for every image in the image mosaic in Americans? --Macrakis (talk) 18:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

I'll pass on photomontages! The footnotes would really be a mess among the "File" templates. I don't have a good answer. On the other hand, these are well-known Americans, to Americans and the developed World. Some of them may not be that well-known in the undeveloped world.
My primary concern has been place articles where most editors consider lists of athletes, musicians, etc. a unavoidable nuisance having little to do with the place. i.e. non-WP:TOPIC. Not wanting to swim against the tide, the lists have been usually allowed. But forcing place-maintainers to link to each article separately, seems torturous. And often, non-productive, as well, since the author of the athletes link did not deem his place of birth or interim home, sufficiently noteworthy to cite. Granted, some of these people are truly famous, like Hippocrates. But until I watched this article, I had no idea he was "from" or lived in, Kos. I don't know for sure, where a lot of famous people were born or lived. For some I could hazard a good guess. I don't know where the following were born or lived (country, but not city): Confucius, Buddha, Simon Bolivar, George Washington (Fairfax? not Williamsburg, right?), Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Henry V (London?), Charlemagne, Tamerlane, the list, you see, is quite long. Perhaps you are better educated! But I need these to justify space in the articles I try to maintain. I hope to enlist your help. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 18:45, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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State ACW templates and related articles Navbox

I recently came across your Georgia in the Civil War template that you made a few years ago. Nice work. A few years before I made one or two of these after seeing them for another state. I had not noticed the Georgia one before because it is unfortunately buried within a related article Navbox. I'm presently going through and systematically stripping away the related article Navbox so that this template displays. If you think that is a mistake, or overriding some group consensus about format, please let me know so that I can bring it up for reconsideration before continuing. Thanks.

BTW, if I had the time I would like to see a similar template for every state that had enough events/actions to adequately populate the format. Red Harvest (talk) 01:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I copied Missouri's format!
Not sure what you mean about "stripping away related article Navbox" in this case. I agree that I like to have small one-topic templates without dragging in ones that "might" be related, but not sure how that applies here. Student7 (talk) 14:50, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
The Navbox surrounding the template was hiding it. The GA ACW template was being grouped with the national ACW template as well, hiding both. They were disappearing at the bottom of the page under a non-descript, black and white, "Links to related articles" strip. I didn't notice it at first as I began inserting the template in pages...then realized that it was already there, but not displaying. I hadn't even noticed that generic "Links to related articles" bar before and would have no reason to select it since the articles typically contain wikilinks, "see also", campaign boxes, etc. The solution seemed simple: strip away the generic box that is hiding the information so that the state and national templates display properly. Red Harvest (talk) 22:06, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I guess. Sorry to be so clueless. I looked at the changes to the template and agree with them so far....:) Student7 (talk) 22:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks. I read this a bit too late for comment. Appreciated the heads up! Student7 (talk) 02:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Inaccuracy

Your page Persecution Of Christians is innacurate. Namely, the topics of the Crusades and the Holocaust, for example, are full of fallacies. The Crusaders themselves were actually Christians and cleansed areas of Jews, Pagans, Muslims, and more. The campaign was called for by the Pope himself. Also, did you know that the Swastika is the symbol of the third entity of the Trinity, the Holy Ghost? These are actually excellent examples of the harm religious fundamentalism causes, in nearly every religion devised by man, and spills that harm over into politics, which is why seperation of church and state is one of the best things the American founding fathers ever passed, and the religious folks in the States who bellyache about it should bite their tongues. Religous fundamentalism just leads to wars that could just be avoided by embracing ideologies like the Pagan rede which states "harm ye none, do what ye will", or Christ's message of love and peace in spite of petty differences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.115.61 (talk) 23:00, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

My page? I've made 3 minor edits since August, one of them a vandal reversion. Student7 (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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You are correct. My keyboard slipped as I was explaining change. Navigational templates are not used without being able to navigate to the current template. That is, the current article must be in the template. Otherwise, it isn't useful for "navigation." See WP:EXISTING. Student7 (talk) 17:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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Please discuss on article discussion page. Student7 (talk) 20:50, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Pastoral regions, response

Greetings, there is a response to your 2008 remarks at Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles. JoeHebda (talk) 19:30, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Recent edit of NYC history

I have re-added the titanic info. Though it sank in the Atlantic, the ship was heading to New York, survivors were brought to New York, and much of the aid came from New York. That should be sufficient enough to allow this information into the history of New York. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zyon788 (talkcontribs) 18:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't agree. The event was made into a popular film. The presence here seems to play off the film. We don't even report nearby events. We don't report 9/11 in Jersey City, though the fire could be seen from there.
The aid provided by NYC was eleemosynary only. WP:MILL. It should be rm entirely. NYC soup kitchens provided as much aid daily to the needy then as it did to the survivors. Student7 (talk) 16:28, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Florida A&M Hazing & Graduation Rate

I want it deleted because hundreds of universities have gone through national recognized hazing incidents (there's multiple hazing deaths every year) and it's not on their wiki page and besides the hazing incident is properly placed in the band section. It doesn't belong on the main page. In light of fair wiki practices, if those universities don't have it on their page it shouldn't be on FAMU.

Graduation rates has nothing to do with the history of the university. It doesn't belong there. You guys got to be freaking kidding me, how many times do I need to state that. Once again, no other university has a graduation rate in their history.Broadmoor (talk) 01:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Roman theatre

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Indian Rebellion of 1857

I've undone your latest edits on the Rebellion page as it looks as if you have misunderstood where the material is in the article. I understand your motives, and agree with them, but I don't think it worked in this case.31.185.245.6 (talk) 10:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Not too sure what you mean by "understand my motives and agree with them." Let's take the easy one first.
There are WP:SCAREQUOTES around the word "native." The unit was either native or it wasn't. There is no reason to call attention to the word by inserting quotes around it per Wikipedia's Manual of Style.
The second part: is it worth distracting the reader from the Rebellion by telling someone interested in history the details of a weapon that was used? This seems WP:TRIVIA to this article, while it may be important in the article about the weapon itself. Telling the reader that there were significant differences in weapon capability, is important, but the details are best left elsewhere for those interested primarily in weaponry and not in history. (It's sort of like telling a reader that John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln with a revolver. Then describing the revolver in detail, which detracts from Wilkes jumping on the stage, shouting something and galloping off into the night. And it being part of a general plot. The high level stuff is important. The details of Booth's revolver can be left for another time or another article). Student7 (talk) 19:52, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Request for help

Hello Student7,
some time ago You were involved in a little talk about a grammar issue.
Now I have another one. Would You please join at: Talk:Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird#Record in present perfect?
Thanks in advance --Baumfreund-FFM (talk) 20:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for Your detailed explanation via mail.
Yours --Baumfreund-FFM (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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The claim for this madrassah differs substantially from articles that have more editors looking at it. I have referenced those. Student7 (talk) 22:16, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

On Kuşadası

Hello, Student7! I've noticed your recent edits to Kuşadası, and I appreciate them very much. Thank you. However, I have also noticed that you are tagging a lot of unreferenced statements that were already there before with lots of citation needed tags just recently. I am not in anyway criticizing this; in fact, I welcome this. It allows us to contribute more to the article and increase its quality. However, I was wondering what brought your attention to this article in the first place, as it never seemed to be within your areas of interest! If it was my edits that brought it to your attention, I simply want to let you know that I was merely polishing what was already there, and I didn't add these statements myself. I know not to make any big statements without supporting them, even though I am a newcomer.

Other than that though, I sincerely thank you. No major changes have been made to this article in such a long time, and yet it is a very important topic. I welcome collaboration between us so that we can improve this article step by step, and I would like it even more if you would cite some of the sources yourself as well! This is entirely in good faith. :)

Side note: If you can, please drop by my user page and this thread to leave your comments for me on these topics. Thank you very much! Coderenius (talk) 00:18, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Also, happy 4th of July, man! Coderenius (talk) 15:26, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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Tibeto-Burman and Tai peoples of Assam

You noted Tibeto-Burman and Tai peoples of Assam was odd... that's because I recently moved it from the offensive Indo-Mongoloid races of Assam. *shudder* But Assam's history in India is of massive immigration from Southeast Asia; the word "Assam" is actually a variant or relative of both Shan and Siam (Thailand]) and the Ahom kingdom ruled there until the 19th century as a non-Indic-language speaking kingdom. Ogress smash! 19:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

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Citations

Hi, Student7! I took a look at this link.

It's self-evident that the "University of Tizi-Ouzou" is inside the city of the same name. Ask yourself: Is the average person going to demand a citation for something that is apparently common sense? I don't think so. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:54, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

User:WhisperToMe. First of all, I might have been a bit more careful had I known it was you when I made the change!
"But secondly, Wikipedia is not "self-proving" as WP:CIRCULAR attests. I don't even know if such a university exists or ever existed. WP:RS are, or should be, required everywhere. It may be true if we read it in the Times, but not at all obvious if we read it in Wikipedia. Student7 (talk) 19:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Ah, don't worry so much about me! I'm just an editor.
I am aware that Wikipedia isn't self-proving and I personally don't like it when people have articles cite other articles. The rationale I'm referring to isn't that "Wikipedia is proving itself" but rather "it's unlikely someone will challenge that fact." Perhaps few Westerners have heard of this university, but I don't think in general readers will think such information is out of place. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Responsibility_for_providing_citations refers to info that is challenged or is likely to be challenged.
Now, I will say that I cite 90-95% of what I write, because very little is "common sense" to the reader. A few times I leave out citations to some basic facts (Usually along the lines of "Anytown school district serves Anytown city, Anystate, USA") that I believe are highly unlikely to be challenged. Citations more or less do belong anywhere, but I meant to say that sometimes it's unlikely a reader will demand them in certain circumstances.
What could be done: A more "obscure fact" about the university, maybe how many students it has or many departments it has or something could be added to that paragraph, and the citation goes after that. Also if it's in a particular neighborhood/district of the city, I cite the contact page with the street address quoted. While a city location may be obvious, a district/neighborhood won't be.
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Tried to cite it, but wound up nearly empty-handed. My "translate to English" didn't result when I searched for the (French) websites that reference it. And my Arabic is a bit rusty.... Student7 (talk) 19:15, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for finding that! That page may be a good reference in an article about education in Algeria! Anyway I'll move that article to Education in Algeria or something, and I will cite this page mentioning the three campuses (unfortunately no street address provided). WhisperToMe (talk) 19:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Help with BNY Mellon

Hi Student7! I'm working as a paid consultant of Bank of New York Mellon to suggest updates to their entry (mostly updating financials). Almost all of the requests have been completed, but there is still one outstanding. I'm looking for others to join the conversation and provide their thoughts on the change and make the edit if it seems appropriate (I won't edit the entry myself because of my COI). If you're interested in taking a look, more details can be found on the Talk page. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 16:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I was impressed with the percentage of endowments, pension funds, etc. Not impressed with the source which was Mellon itself. You'd need an unbiased third party, IMO. WSJ? Value Line? S&P? Disclosure Q (or whatever it is)?
Also, the "best place for female technologists" seemed to be stretching things a bit. This is small potatoes for Mellon.
Normally, I would suggest, you having already disclosed your WP:COI on the discussion page, you could add things (ONCE) yourself. But need to ensure WP:RS and avoid WP:UNDUE. If it gets reverted, then look for help.
Trivia: If it were me, I would round off billions of assets to a single decimal point. Having $303.303 billion is a bit distracting. IMO. $303 billion (three significant digits) is sufficient. IMO. Student7 (talk) 21:35, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Without looking, this sounds like a good idea. Small towns/cities don't generally have an "elections" subsection. Okay to mention current councilmen and even have a (hidden) list of past mayors. Student7 (talk) 18:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Contributions?

sir, i want to contribution on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.93.81.137 (talk) 07:34, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I've left a welcome message on your page. You appear to have already made contributions to Assam. Or is that someone else using your computer? Student7 (talk) 18:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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My mistake about mentioning companies, but it may have been of some interest if you had left their fantastic technique of renovation within the prose, perhaps? User:Arminnius

Again, what is the use to the article? Describing the interior, if WP:RS can be found, might be useful. But to say how tough it was to fix thus and so, when the original builders had pretty much the same problem. And tough to replace church roofs. People used to routinely get killed doing just that, rather frequently. True of most churches with traditional roofing, though. Not really unique here. Student7 (talk) 23:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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Shroud of Turin

Hi Student7. I noticed you've invested some time in the Shroud of Turin article so I was wondering if you could take a quick look at my suggestions to improve the neutrality of some specific wording, outlined at its Talk page and contribute your thoughts? I know with the lead-up to Christmas editors have had other priorities, so if wikipedians do see any merit in my suggestion I'd like the community input. If not, I'll move right along. Much appreciated! 121.216.197.53 (talk) 04:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Student7, would you mind providing your input at Talk:Vermont#Sanders party affiliation? We have a visitor from England who has some definite opinions. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:44, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. I've been offline (out of the country) for two weeks. 97.104.95.42 (talk) 23:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Disruptive edit at Vermont

Hi Student 7, a very angry editor made this edit at Vermont, contrary to the Talk:Vermont#Sanders party affiliation page. I reverted him once, but would rather have someone else respond further to avoid an edit war. He accused me of several unjust things in his edit remarks. Please do what you think is best. Happy New Year, User:HopsonRoad 23:07, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

BTW, I left a note at the editor's talk page, asking him to please be civil. His reply basically accused me of being insufficiently partisan to the Democratic party! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 13:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Looks like the problem got solved. Congratulations (I think)! Student7 (talk) 02:00, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

USAA and SEC

SEC is involved in regulating USAA because USAA has a brokerage and mutual fund company... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.24.24.150 (talk) 22:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Good point! Student7 (talk) 02:03, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

On the use of the Imperial measurement system

I noticed on some talk page (I've already forgotten where) you said the U.S is the only country left that still uses the English Imperial system instead of the metric system. In fact there is another country that is still officially Imperial (and no, I'm not talking about the U.K.), and no, I'm not talking about Burma/Myanmar, which uses neither. I could tell you the answer, but you wouldn't want me to do that. (Feel free to delete this message if you like.) Gesundheit! __209.179.86.123 (talk) 03:39, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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i noticed you were familiar with a user named History2007, or now user:VanishedUserABC. i was wondering if you could share a little about the individual so i can better understand his academic pedigree. is it possible you could share any of his work on mathematics, aside from his very controversial creation of page Probability measure? i would be very appreciative if you could share anything, as this individual miraculously vanished when math scholars with expertise in this area became aware of the success of a now-deceased colleague's (https://web.archive.org/web/20100324055343/http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=2439178&p=2) methodology. i found his insertion, which was a short time after the death of my colleague (who would have likely rejected this page), to be a bit interesting. especially since he later on fled wikipedia very suddenly, leaving people such as yourself asking questions (this is how i found you).

thank you. 174.3.155.181 (talk) 05:55, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

I have no insight to share unfortunately. Best of luck! Student7 (talk) 01:05, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Georgia State Route 6 Business in Powder Springs

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Thanks for your edit to Brevard County, Florida. I'm not sure what a "spoil island" is. Could you add a bit more detail? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:28, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Good question. I just tried to link "something" to explain before I read your message. Not in Wiktionary either. Probably too short for an article. See what you think. I honestly never heard the term before reading it in the paper the other day and I've been living here 40 years. Student7 (talk) 23:25, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Christmas

This strikes me as a doubious claim: "The early church was concerned with the Death, Resurrection and life of Christ. They essentially ignored the birth of Christ until Docetism asserted that Christ did not have a physical body." Perhaps Bowler is thinking of Paul. But Mark, writing at about the same time, was certainly concerned with the various worldly doings of Jesus, especially the Baptism. Writing a generation later, Luke and Matthew have detailed Nativity narratives. In the fourth century, Constantine made Christianity Rome's official religion, which created a need for public festivals. Pandas and people (talk) 23:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Also, the 336 calendar gives Christmas on December 25, but says nothing about Epiphany. So it might not have been a feast at that time. I don't see any basis to say that Christmas and Epiphany were "split." Epiphany was primarily a holiday to honor the Baptism; It's not Christmas on another day. Pandas and people (talk) 00:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for discussing this article. I wasn't completely happy with my edits. Also, there is a lot of differences in sources about the celebration, as I'm sure you have noticed.
The Pope Julius I article, last paragraph, indicates that this pope split off the birth of Jesus into 2 different celebrations, the Nativity (not called "Christmas" in a Latin-speaking country! :) and the Epiphany. I'll try to make the appropriate change.
The concern with Docetism was not over church teaching which seemed consistent to the church, but the ignoring of Christ birth and physical manifestation. So no doubt in church's mind. Doubt is by Docetists only. And yes, it's all there in Luke and Matthew, to say nothing of the portrayal of physical (human) suffering at Christ's death.
Glad there is someone else interested. I will try to comment in more general terms on the talk:Christmas page. Student7 (talk) 18:10, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia is hardly much of a source. New SCM Dictionary of Liturgy and Worship represents the state of the art in religious studies. See also Catholic Encyclopedia. Pandas and people (talk) 04:17, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I agree that we can't use Wikipedia as a source. It's the footnote at the end that justifies the material. Student7 (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
The Christmas and Epiphany book is a nice resource, but perhaps you could point out what page supports your claims. We don't know whether or not Epiphany was celebrated in Rome in early fourth century. Even if it was celebrated, it could be viewed as a commemoration of the Baptism or the visit of the magi. Pandas and people (talk) 23:37, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
if you are asking about the .pdf citation, yes, it needs page numbers are something more. My editing capabilities have dried up for the next ten days or so. If you are willing to search the Baylor.edu ref (if that is the one), for "Julius", that should bring you to the material. If not.....well, whatever you guys say, goes. I'm not offline, but electronically handicapped. Student7 (talk) 23:53, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
I already thought of that. No, he isn't mentioned. Pandas and people (talk) 03:24, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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I'm not sure I understand your edit to Port Canaveral. You wrote: "About 60% of revenue comes from cruise lines. Cruise-related parking is 18%. Petroleum constitutes 43% of cargo." Did you mean to say petroleum constitutes 43% of revenue? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

You're right. This is too terse. I was trying to say that out of the about 22% for cargo, petroleum+ is 43% of that remainder. The sentence needs rewriting. Thanks for noticing. On mobile now. If I don't get back to it in some reasonable time, feel free to correct it yourself. Student7 (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Up to my ass in alligators?

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Clearly, you are correct when you ask for a citation. And, yes, my remarks are seat-of-pants variety. Just a WAG. My remarks were from 5 years ago, and, other reading material that sounds like me, I am a bit lost in restarting. You'd think the Wildlife conservation people would have some kind of algorithm that is newer than 1980 or so. Student7 (talk) 01:27, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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Long due apology

Hi,
Maybe you dont remember me, we had an interaction at Talk:John F. Kennedy#Rosemary. I was sort of rude towards you in that conversation. Even though at that time, I apologised there; I still feel bad about the ordeal. I have been meaning to do this since a long time, but at first I couldnt find the thread (I kept searching for it on the talkpages of articles other than JFK, including Rosemary, her mother, and so on). I accidentally found the thread a few days ago when I was skimming through JFK's talkpage.
Kindly forgive me if possible for my rudeness in that discussion. It would mean a lot to me. Regards, —usernamekiran(talk) 07:08, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

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The article slab city (note that City is not capitalized) already existed. All you had to do was redirect Slab City to Slab city. I have done so. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:12, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for following up. I've tried to be slightly more forthcoming under previous editors comment. I have found nothing that substantiates this claim today. Brilliant philosopher, just hyped claim for this one case. Student7 (talk) 22:38, 29 December 2017 (UTC) Student7 (talk) 22:38, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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Achievements

Hedy Lamarr as Delilah
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Jesus of Nazareth

Jesus (7–2 BC to 30–33 AD) is the central figure of Christianity, whom the teachings of most Christian denominations hold to be the Son of God and the awaited Messiah of the Old Testament. Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that a historical Jesus existed, although there is little agreement on the reliability of the gospel narratives and how closely the biblical Jesus reflects the historical Jesus. Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Jewish preacher from Galilee, was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate. Christians generally believe that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin, performed miracles, founded the Church, died by crucifixion as a sacrifice to achieve atonement, rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven, from which he will return. The great majority of Christians worship Jesus as the incarnation of God the Son, the second of three Persons of a Divine Trinity. A few Christian groups reject Trinitarianism, wholly or partly, as non-scriptural. In Islam, Jesus is considered one of God's important prophets and the Messiah. (Full article...)


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Operation Auca was an attempt by five Evangelical Christian missionaries from the United States to make contact with the Huaorani people of the rainforest of Ecuador. The Huaorani, also known as the Aucas, were an isolated tribe known for their violence, both against their own people and outsiders who entered their territory. With the intention of being the first Protestants to evangelize the Huaorani, the missionaries began making regular flights over Huaorani settlements in September 1955, dropping gifts. After several months of exchanging gifts, on January 2, 1956, the missionaries established a camp at "Palm Beach", a sandbar along the Curaray River, a few miles from Huaorani settlements. Their efforts culminated on January 8, 1956, when all five—Jim Elliot, Nate Saint, Ed McCully, Peter Fleming, and Roger Youderian—were attacked and speared by a group of Huaorani warriors. The news of their deaths was broadcast around the world, and Life magazine covered the event with a photo essay. The deaths of the men galvanized the missionary effort in the United States, sparking an outpouring of funding for evangelization efforts around the world. Their work is still frequently remembered in evangelical publications, and in 2006, was the subject of the film production End of the Spear. (more...)


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The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara, painting by Moritz Daniel Oppenheim, 1862. This depiction departs significantly from the historical record of how Mortara was taken—no clergy were present, for example.
The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara

The Mortara case was a controversy precipitated by the Papal States' seizure of Edgardo Mortara, a six-year-old Jewish child, from his family in Bologna, Italy, in 1858. The city's inquisitor, Father Pier Feletti, heard from a servant that she had administered emergency baptism to the boy when he fell sick as an infant, and the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition held that this made the child irrevocably a Catholic. Because the Papal States had forbidden the raising of Christians by members of other faiths, it was ordered that he be taken from his family and brought up by the Church. After visits from the child's father, international protests mounted, but Pope Pius IX would not be moved. The boy grew up as a Catholic with the Pope as a substitute father, trained for the priesthood in Rome until 1870, and was ordained in France three years later. In 1870 the Kingdom of Italy captured Rome during the unification of Italy, ending the pontifical state; opposition across Italy, Europe and the United States over Mortara's treatment may have contributed to its downfall. (Full article...)


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