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The article was promoted by FrB.TG via FACBot (talk) 28 October 2023 [1].

1913–14 Gillingham F.C. season[edit]

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:32, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know that last year (I only found out the other day) British football journalist Adam Hurrey tweeted that the proportion of football-related FAs on WP which are specifically about Gillingham F.C. amounts to "astonishing mind control, on a near-industrial scale". Well, here I am to control your minds some more (or something). Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:32, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from MyCatIsAChonk[edit]

  • The signing of two new forwards followed a season in which no player had scored more than five league goals for Gillingham, who had finished the campaign as the lowest-scoring team in the division. - might just be me, but "who" looks like it's referring to the new forwards; adding a semicolon would be more comprehensible (...five league goals for Gillingham; the club had finished...)
  • It would prove to be the only game Bailey missed all season - WP:INTOTHEWOULDS, use past tense
  • In the FA cup results table, the "Round" column isn't sorting numerically
  • Inflation price conversions like (equivalent to £160,000 in 2021) need to be referenced; not sure if the current ones support it, but I didn't see a ref to a calculator

ChrisTheDude, can't say I'm surprised that I have so few comments; great work MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:38, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MyCatIsAChonk: - all done! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - also, if you get time, would appreciate any comments at this FAC; thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:43, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Harrias[edit]

  • "..had played in the Southern League since the competition's formation in 1894; the team had been promoted.." Not keen on the repetition of had, nor the framing it provides. Maybe replace "had been" with "was"?

Seriously, that's all I can find. The only other quibble I could bring up is that you have archive links for most of your references, but not #10, #43, #53 or #76. But look, I'm happy to support this off the bat, very little to fault, great work. Harrias (he/him) • talk 20:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Harrias: - thanks for your review and feedback. I amended the sentence you mention. Re: archives, those refs were added after someone else archived all the existing ones. I tried archiving again but the bot didn't make any changes. Maybe it's having one of its occasional "moments" this morning..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:36, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Pseud 14[edit]

  • I echo the same sentiments as above reviewers. I have read through the article twice and found nothing to quibble. Great work as ever, so I am supporting this excellent article for promotion. (P.S., I could be wrong but does the Gillingham and Queens Park Rangers image caption need a full stop?) Pseud 14 (talk) 16:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Pseud 14: thanks for your review. As I was also unsure, I have made a tiny change to the Gills-QPR image caption to one that definitely doesn't need a full stop :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image review – pass[edit]

  • All are appropriately licensed as pre-1928 works that are in the public domain in the United States and the United Kingdom.
  • File:JackMahonGillingham.jpg needs a source link.

Not image related, but perhaps the Newspapers.com citations should use |url-access=limited, as a subscription is not required to view clips or those particular pages. SounderBruce 04:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: - done! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from NØ[edit]

  • Is there anything that should be bolded in the lead, as is usually done with the first mention of the article subject? Although it is understandable if this is not the case since bolded + wikilinked text does look odd.
    • I can't really see anything appropriate to bold -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "As was the norm at the time, Gilligan had responsibility for team selection" - "Gilligan was responsible for team selection" might be preferable, unless that type of structure is not appropriate in British English
  • "Four days later, the team won 4–0 at home to the previous season's Southern League champions, Plymouth Argyle, but after scoring eight goals in two matches they then scored none at all in the next three" - A comma can be added before "they then scored none at all in the next three" probably.
That's all!--NØ 16:14, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @MaranoFan: - many thanks for your review, both the last two points have been actioned (albeit slightly differently in the second case but hopefully it's still OK) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support--NØ 17:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Gog the Mild[edit]

Recusing to review.

  • The image "Gillingham's goalkeeper Albert Bailey defending ..." Is it possible to tweak this so it is upright.
  • "Gillingham's performances during the first half of the season and at the end of 1913 they were 12th out of 20 teams in the league table." I suspect a word missing in the first part of that.
  • "heaviest defeat of the whole season." Does "whole" add anything?
    • It's to clarify that it wasn't simply the biggest up to that point -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't clarify at all, in that 'the season' already means, er, the season, and cannot reasonably be mistaken for something else, eg part of the season. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough - fixed both this one and the other one -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the attendance was the largest recorded crowd in front of which Gillingham had ever played." Consider including whether this was home or away, and the size of the crowd - if known.
  • Possibly link "home" and "away"?
  • "the largest of the entire season at Priestfield Road." Is "entire" needed?
  • "they had to play much of the second half with only ten men after Glen was injured." Perhaps a footnote explaining that substitutes were not a thing at the time?
  • "Cup match details": why give an abbreviation for "own goal" when it is not used?

You are getting good at these ;-) . Gog the Mild (talk) 14:55, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: - thanks for your review and kind words. All done with a couple of exceptions (see above) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – pass[edit]

  • No issues with the formatting or quality of sources.
  • Spotchecks:
    • "On 20 September, they beat Southend United 4–2 at Priestfield Road; Bill Pepper replaced Albert Bailey, the team's regular goalkeeper, after the latter was taken ill." – Sourced to "Shrimpers' net well pierced by Gillingham". Fact is supported by the source, and no copyvio or close para-phrasing present.
    • "Swindon took a 2–0 lead early in the game and, although Hafekost scored a goal to reduce the deficit going into the half-time interval, Swindon added three more goals in the second half to win 5–1." – Sourced to "Swindon v. Gillingham". Fact is supported by the source, and no copyvio or close para-phrasing present.
    • "Gillingham again failed to score against Norwich City on 10 April; the game ended in another 0–0 draw." – Sourced to "Gillingham 0, Norwich 0". Fact is supported by the source, and no copyvio or close para-phrasing present.

Honestly, all looks great. Harrias (he/him) • talk 13:26, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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