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November 22[edit]

Twinkle got the hurting, how to correct[edit]

As todays AfD list was still empty, the AfD for Website Magazine wasn't listed. How can I fix that? just manualy link the page like the rest, or will that break stuff? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 00:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and did it. In the future, you can just add it manually like I did here. Thanks for pointing it out! - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's only been two months since I last did an AfD without twinkle, but suddenly, I was vey much out of my element. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martijn Hoekstra (talkcontribs) 11:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mergetomultiple-with not working as advertised?[edit]

I have tried to use this template at Throat diameter but it does not seem to be directing discussion to Worm drive as I think it is supposed to. Is it me or the template? Bill F (talk) 00:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be the template. The documentation falsely claims: "The template automatically links to the talk page of the main article, specified by the param with=.". In fact the discuss link goes to the talk page of where the template is placed. I don't know how to fix the template but you can work around the problem and also get a section link by adding the parameter "|talk=Talk:Worm drive#Merge from". PrimeHunter (talk) 01:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could someone change this? The article is protected. 71.113.95.63 (talk) 00:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article is semi-protected; the talk page is not. Talk to User:Acalamari, he put it under semi-protection due to vandalism problems. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:20, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think 71.113.95.63 just want somebody to change the article claim mentioned at Talk:Washington#Religion, and not change the protection status. Is that correct? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the mentioned article claim. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problem to log in in my native language Norsk (Bokmål) wikipedia.[edit]

Dear help desk

My name is Arnt Christian and I am finding great time using wikipedia. I have stumbled on a strange problem. I have no difficulty logging in at the english side, but turning to the norwegian I get logged out, or I can't log in. It seems that I have got a different password in the Norwegian and the English?

I hope this problem can be easily resolved and I'm also a bit curious how it have occured.

yours sincerly Arnt Christian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xact (talkcontribs) 02:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! You need to create a new user on the Norweigian wikipedia (Can be the same username). When you create a user on a certain language wikipedia, it is only for that one language. Sseballos (talk) 02:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a Xact at http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:Bidrag/Xact. If it's you then you may have chosen another password there. If it's not you then you have to choose another user name. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, the multiple accounts may be unneeded in the future. See meta:Help:Unified login. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting Multiple Edits[edit]

How does one revert multiple edits at once? Sseballos (talk) 02:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Reverting#How to revert. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Especially the Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism page linked from there, if you want to revert many edits by a flood vandal. Also see: WP:EIW#Bots, WP:EIW#Tools, and WP:EIW#User_s. --Teratornis (talk) 02:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Infobox[edit]

How do I create an infobox? --Kwekwc (talk) 03:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You might start at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes). If you're wanting to add an infobox to an article (rather than create a new form of infobox), probably the easiest way is to copy an infobox from a similar article and change the content. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

H Mehta Scam of 1992[edit]

How did the name of P Chidambaram got included in Big Bull Harshad Mehta Scam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.204.196 (talk) 05:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'm not sure as to what you're referencing. If it's purely factual, I'm recommend the Reference Desk, as they should be able to help you much better. Regards, Neranei (talk) 07:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not appear to claim a connection between P. Chidambaram and Harshad Mehta. If the question is not about Wikipedia then try the reference desk as Neranei says, or try a Google search [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of CRYSTAL[edit]

I have created an article Crysis 2 and referenced it. Yet it was tagged with the PROD tag with a not citing WP:CRYSTAL, I don't really see how CRYSTAL covers things like this, unless the developers decide to cancel it I believe that this game is notable and doesn't violate CRYSTAL. Can you help me with this, thanks! Marlith T/C 06:11, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, WP:CRYSTAL refers to pure speculation about something. From looking at the article, it was an unannounced game, correct? If you disagree with the delete, try deletion review, and it'll get looked at. Regards, Neranei (talk) 07:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate Articles[edit]

I think the American Temperance Society and the Society for the Promotion of Temperance are the same thing. If those articles are the same then what should be done with those articles? Thanks and have a great Thanksgiving!

-(Noneforall (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]

See WP:MERGE for a guide. Please remember to discuss it on the talk page first, some people may not agree. Happy Thanksgiving in return! Regards, Neranei (talk) 07:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Listing our company name in wikepedia[edit]

Hi, when we type companies like "Infosys" or "Wipro" in wikepedia search their info will provided, either when we type our company name(Neural Systems) in same text box the info is not their even though we are ISO certified. I want to know why is this.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.166.18 (talk) 08:37, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Articles only exist in Wikipedia when someone writes them. No-one has written an article on Neural Systems, so when you search there's nothing to find. You can always suggest an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles, Wikipedia:Articles for creation, or Wikipedia:Drawing board, but I would not advise you to write it yourself, since there would be serious issues of conflict of interest. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 09:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To add to the above, articles on Wikipedia have specific criteria, for companies, you can review these here. Wikipedia also has Core policies, such as neutrality, notability, verifiability, etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Wikipedia must demonstrate notability (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have reliable, third-party sources (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must cite those sources to verify it is true. From those sources, information is summarized, paraphrased, condensed, and worded neutrally to make an encyclopedic entry (information cannot be copied from other sites). See Wikipedia's manual of style, layout guide, your first article, article development, and how to edit for assistance. I hope that helps! ArielGold 09:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

inquiry[edit]

dear sir kindly i want to ask how to use your servie plus i need to know if you have a reseller program im starting a new business that got to do with sms and i have lots of clients that purchase high volumes

thanks for your cooperation —Preceding unsigned comment added by Makkisms (talkcontribs) 09:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you are under the wrong impression about Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia project online, that is edited by millions of editors. It is not a sales site, it is part of a non-profit organization, Wikimedia Foundation. Please review what Wikipedia is not, and what Wikipedia is. ArielGold 10:01, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the questioner saw one of the articles under SMS (disambiguation) and believes Wikipedia conducts business relating to one of those meanings. Wikipedia is merely an encyclopedia, with 6,818,900 articles; we do not have direct involvement in the subjects of the vast majority of those articles. (The few exceptions include articles about Wikipedia itself, the MediaWiki software, and the Wikimedia Foundation.) --Teratornis (talk) 19:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did I miss anything?[edit]

I've posted a proposal to add "Today's featured list" to the main page.

Is there anything I've missed in the proposal or in the proposal process?

The Transhumanist (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to the process, but the box for "Today's featured list" is not aligned with the other boxes (it is shifted slightly to the left). That may be due to the page it is on, not being the actual main page, and for you, I'm sure an easy thing to fix ;o) (Firefox 2.0.0.9 and IE7). I like the idea. Did you post it at WP:VPP? ArielGold 10:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing an existing image[edit]

How do I replace the existing ACCA logo on the following page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Chartered_Certified_Accountants —Preceding unsigned comment added by Accaglobal (talkcontribs) 11:37, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you take a look at the source of the infobox, you see the following:

{{Infobox Company | company_name = The Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (ACCA) | company_logo = [[Image:ACCA.gif]] ..homepage = [http://www.accaglobal.com www.accaglobal.com] }} You can either change to a new image, changing Image:ACCA.gif to the location of the new image, or change the image ACCA.gif itself, and update it to a newer version. Do watch out with images, there are very sticky copyright problems surrounding them. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I suggest you upload the new image under a new name. That way you don't accidentally put the old copyright info on the new image and it makes reverting in case of copyright issues a lot easier. - 131.211.161.123 (talk) 13:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

software programs[edit]

differentiate between assist mode and command mode

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Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. NF24(radio me!Editor review) 12:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Total Quality Management[edit]

Goodday my name is Macloed

I would like to enquire on what must I do in order to be one of your students? I would also like to know how much is your studying fees for the course stated above.

kind Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.14.40.15 (talk) 13:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome! Wikipedia is an encyclopedia project online, that is edited by millions of editors. It is not a school, it is part of a non-profit organization, Wikimedia Foundation. Please review what Wikipedia is not, and what Wikipedia is. If you're interested in education, you could check out Wikiversity, a free online education project. Cheers, ArielGold 13:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you saw our encyclopedia article on Total Quality Management. That is just one of more than 2 million articles and not something we offer education in. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

jose reyes[edit]

for jose reyes page it says "is an All-Star Major League poopball worst" shortstop for the New York Mets." Please change —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.150.133.64 (talk) 13:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

I did, but Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

reading articles[edit]

Hello, i accidentily clicked something and all the text got smaller. Please Help Me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.245.140 (talk) 15:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While this probably should go on the Computing reference desk, I'll answer it here. I'll assume you use Windows.
  • In Firefox: View -> Text Size -> Normal or Ctrl-0 (that is, hold Control and press Zero)
  • In Internet Explorer: View -> Text Size -> Medium will get you back to normal.
  • In Safari: View -> Make Text Normal Size
If you don't use one of those browsers, try looking in the View menu. If the appropriate option isn't there, then look in the Help file. Hope this helps! NF24(radio me!Editor review) 15:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict with infoboxes for space[edit]

I'm know not everyone sees a page displayed the same way, so it could be just the way I've got my computers set up, but I get pages loading with excess whitespace due to pictures trying to clear the bottom of infoboxes, in some articles sub titles have become divorced from content for the same reason. (examples of this in articles I've tried to edit this out of include Ma On Shan Station‎, Shek Mun Station‎ and Heng On Station I've also had an edit to correct this reverted on FN FNC (see Talk:FN FNC and an offer to reposition the pictures in Polish Air Force refused), should I presume that pages are cleanly laid out, but that my computers refuse to display them properly or that in fact there is something wrong with such pages and that they need to be rejigged. Thanks. KTo288 (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no problem with your computer at all. This is what infoboxes do in some browsers. They distort the area around them. However some browsers wrap them differently than others so the same article renders differently depending if you have Firefox or Explorer for example. Sometimes it looks markedly better in one of these browsers. Dr.K. (talk) 17:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Just dealing with Hong Kong railway articles for the moment, the problem with them is there just isn't enough content. These aren't a browser issue, they'll look bad on any computer/browser setup. As far as I can see there's three different ways to lay out these articles:
  1. Put both the "Neighbouring stations" and "External links" sections to the left of the infobox (as I've done in Ma On Shan Station)
  2. Put the "Neighbouring stations" section to the left of the infobox but "External links" underneath (as Shek_Mun_Station)
  3. Put both sections underneath the infobox (as Heng_On_Station)
I don't know which of these are best. #3 would be the most conservative. (BTW, you should never add loads of blank lines, that's one thing that will look fine for some users and messed up for others. You can add the {{clear}} template above a section heading to make sure it appears below the infobox.) -- DatRoot 19:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:How to fix bunched-up edit links may be relevant to these problems. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to you all for responding, it explains alot as I use Firefox on one computer and IE on another (and there I was thinking it was the monitor setup) and thanks to DatRoot for fixing my misguided attempts. Is there anyway to know how things will look to other users with different settings, and what would be a good compromise to stick to so that pages will look acceptable to as many users as possible. Thanks again. KTo288 (talk) 20:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Between IE7 and and the latest versions of the other browsers, there really isn't much difference, so you don't normally have to worry; there's only a few things that might look better in one browser or the other. I think IE6 might give some problems, and unfortunately a large chunk of people still use it. But I don't have access to a copy at the moment so I can't check.
To make sure things look right, you just have to load the page in both browsers. If the machine you've got Firefox loaded on is Windows, you'll still have IE on it to fire up and check, or there's a Firefox extension called "IE Tab" that lets you quickly switch a page between rendering engines within Firefox. Also try resizing the window a bit to make sure things don't look too bad at lower resolutions. -- DatRoot 21:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers for your time and advice, and thanks again. KTo288 (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Skillet article has gone south. It used to be a redirect to Frying pan. Then User:Dj245 changed the page from a redirect to an article again, and added info about a piping component that is also called a skillet [2]. Then someone else removed the ==Piping Component== subheader. Talk:Skillet btw. still redirects to Talk:Frying pan. The result of these edits is that as of this writing, Skillet is only about the piping component, and Frying pan and some other meaning can only be reached via an italics disambiguation header in the Skillet article. This is clearly wrong. The definition of "skillet" as "frying pan" is vastly more common than the piping component definition. The piping component may be valid info (though the link to a manufacturer of them is borderline spam), but if anything it should be a secondary, disambiguated article, eg. Piping skillet. Skillet should again be made a redirect to Frying pan. The reason why I am aking for help here is that I cannot create new articles, and therefore can't create a Piping skillet article -- only registered users can do that, and I oppose to the discrimination against anonymous users on the English Wikipedia as a matter of principle. Non-account users should have the same rights as account holders, as they do in other Wikipedias. So someone else needs to fix the Skillet article -- or better yet fix your discriminatory practices. 86.56.42.155 (talk) 17:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is some hot debate on stopping the restricion on article creation by annons. I would change what you proposed, but am unsure what is the better way to do things: Move Skillet to Piping skillet and make Skillet a redirect to frying pan again, or make a new article for piping skillet, and redirect skillet to frying pan. (The issue is where the page history ends up.) Anyone bright ideas on this one? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unregistered users will have more chance of regaining the same rights as registered users (which they had in Wikipedia's early years) when unregistered users stop contributing 97% of Wikipedia's vandalism. Vandalism is not merely an inconvenience for the constructive users (both registered and unregistered) who clean it up - sufficiently harmful vandalism threatens the existence of the entire project (see: Siegenthaler controversy). Since vandals overwhelmingly prefer to edit without registering, it is extremely difficult to implement effective anti-vandalism strategies which avoid collectively punishing all unregistered users. This is similar to the real-world problem in which virtually all suicide bombers are muslims, but there is no effective way to identify the minority of muslims who are likely to become suicide bombers, and scrutinize only them. This creates problems for the majority of muslims who have no interest in committing suicide attacks, but their problems come from the suicide bombers, not from the governments the suicide bombers deliberately seek to provoke. Therefore, you should voice your complaints against unregistered users who vandalize Wikipedia, not against Wikipedia which must use every tool at its disposal to preserve its existence. I could almost sympathize with your plight if registering an account was as difficult as changing one's religion can be, but that is hardly the case. --Teratornis (talk) 18:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and turned Skillet into a disambiguation page. There are at least three topics, and the main topic is a Frying pan. However, I don't think it's appropriate to redirect everyone to Frying pan, and put the other links at the top, so I've made a small disambiguation page for now. I've also gone through and (manually, ugh) fixed all the double-redirects this made. People are free to create the article for Piping skillet, but the current version was unsourced and the only external link was to a commercial site. -- Kesh (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

help me again[edit]

a hard days night —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.253.198.153 (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain your exact problem? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We have A Hard Day's Night as a disambiguation page, if that's any help. --Teratornis (talk) 19:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Query[edit]

How do I get Jimbo Wales to speak at my youth club in De Aar, South Africa? --Buzzzzzzzzz (talk) 17:26, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure. You could ask him. This may need to go through the Foundation, though. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 17:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Tell Jimmy to meet at the De Aar Youth Club, Von Kloek Road, De Aar, South Africa at 5:00pm on 6th December 2007 and I will give him a cash settlement of R4000. --Buzzzzzzzzz (talk) 17:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The best way to contact Jimbo if you want him to speak somewhere is by email at wikispeaker@gmail.com; that's the recommended address to use (see Jimbo's userpage). --ais523 17:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
No just tell him the above address to meet me there please.--Buzzzzzzzzz (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The efficient method, and one with higher probability of success, would be to videoconference your youth club to one of the many venues where Jimbo Wales has already been scheduled to speak. --Teratornis (talk) 18:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You will need to contact him yourself; we are not in a position to get him to go to your event. If you have a budget of ZAR4000 (~US$585) you may be better served to use the videoconference method. Stifle (talk) 15:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SMALL TEXT! HELP[edit]

I recently reinstalled my OS (Vista) and now Wikipedia is only showing articles in tiny (4pt-ish) text. It's incredibly irritating and I don't know how to fix it. I know it's likely to be a technical issue at my end but can anyone offer any advice? Wikipedia (and other wiki sites) are the only sites on which this occurs. Thanks. Martin Leng (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a problem with your internet browser, not your OS, although it is odd it happened just then. Try pressing Ctrl++ (Control button with the plus button), or holding Ctrl while scrolling with the mouse wheel. If neither of those work, there should be a "Text size" option under the "View" menu. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That didn't work. There is also a greater distance between the lines than there was previously. Martin Leng (talk) 18:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If it's only happening on Wikipedia, maybe it's an issue with a badly-cached stylesheet. If the problem persists despite setting the text size to normal, try bypassing your cache. --ais523 18:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Nope. :( This is really irritating... I use this site all the time. Martin Leng (talk) 18:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What Web browser are you using, and can you try installing another one for a sanity check? --Teratornis (talk) 18:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You might find some help under WP:EIW#Browser, but with your current problem the help might be difficult to read. Do you see a normal font size when you view the page source in your browser? --Teratornis (talk) 18:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also, what size do the following appear at? Which one is bigger?

AbsoluteRelative

I seem to remember problems IE sometimes has with text size on absolutely vs. relatively specified sizes (which is what I've used here); this test may help to tell if that's the problem. --ais523 18:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Relative is larger, but still not as large as it should be (it's about the size as the caption text under a picture on normal Wikipedia). Also, I just installed Firefox and there isn't a problem there.

Also just noticed that numbers and mathematical formulae are being displayed in Curlz MT on some pages. (!?) Martin Leng (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the obvious solution at this point would be to give up and use Firefox, but that's not overly helpful. As for the math, if you go to your preferences, under the math tab, you can make all math formulas display as images (Always render PNG). I'm still at a loss about the font size. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is the point at which I suggest trying Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing and Wikipedia:Village pump (technical); I can't think of anything else, but maybe someone else on one of those pages can. --ais523 19:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

how do i get an account?[edit]

how do i get an account top be able to post my own information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.81.166.148 (talk) 19:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can quickly and easily sign up for an account by clicking "Sign in/create account" in the top-right corner of any page. I hope you enjoy being a Wikipedian! NF24(radio me!Editor review) 19:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ad to purchase Robert Parker's Spencer books[edit]

I would like to know if there is someplace I could post an ad wanting to buy all 35 of the Spencer Series by Robert Parker books75.72.2.30 (talk) 19:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC).[reply]

With respect, this is an encyclopedia. I believe E-bay offers the opportunity to do this kind of thing however. Thanks! Pedro :  Chat  19:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also, try Craigslist.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Avril[edit]

how do i put info about Avril Lavigne on Wikipedia/ on her wikipedia space? I have info on her tour. Thank you! :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.224.197 (talk) 21:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Avril Lavigne is semi-protected so it can only be edited by at least 4 days old accounts. You can suggest changes at Talk:Avril Lavigne, or make an account and wait 4 days. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for trying to help. We value your input. Please note however that your information must be "verifiable" by our particular definition. Please see WP:V, and please cite your sources. -Arch dude (talk) 04:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia pages[edit]

76.177.241.149 (talk)How do you make Wikipedia Pages? —Preceding comment was added at 22:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Silver Edge (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]