Talk:Educational inequality
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Addition of Section about Alternative Schools
[edit]I think a section should be added about recent attempts to provide alternative schools for children living in areas with very high rates of educational inequality. This section would include magnet schools, charter schools, and other similar institutions. In some areas of the country, schools such as KIPP and YES Prep have been very successful in closing the achievement gap between high-income and low-income students, and in providing minority and low-income students with a quality education. The section should also include where and how these programs are being implemented and how successful they have been. I think it's important to include a section like this because it shows that in some cases it is possible for schools to overcome inequalities resulting from circumstances beyond their control.. Kebarnes91 (talk) 21:40, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
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Bellerive37200 proposed article edits
[edit]I plan on becoming an editor for the article Educational Inequality, I see a lot I would like to change. I would like to restructure this article completely. I plan on going through it piece by piece, evaluating the information in each section and then deciding on the best placement of each piece. Also, while going through each section, I plan on looking for an encyclopedia-like tone throughout the article.
After evaluating the content of the current article, I realized that there is a lot of information that should be added. When I add information, I intend to add both the global north and global south perspectives. With this information, I want the reader to compare between the countries and have an unbiased look at educational inequality. Also, by infusing information about the global south throughout, I intend to rid the article of systematic bias. I plan on adding information to the sections on early educational interventions such as the head start program, international education programs, family background, the gender gap, policy implications, the projects of NGO’s and the reasons for inequality.
Lastly, I intend on insuring that the citations throughout the article are credible and that I use a wide range of sources. While analyzing the article, I saw that some sections were lacking citations or that they were not credible. Through adding these in, I hope that the article becomes more credible and less systematically biased.
Shayan's Social Media & Social Movements Edits
[edit]The Global Evidence section is lacking concrete racial and gender related statistics. Additionally, the section has economic analysis in abundance; however, many social and cultural factors are absent. There are multiple spelling and grammatical issues in "inequality in higher education" under South Africa. Immediately following South Africa is the UK. This section is incomplete and simply looked over. Shayan amini95 (talk) 05:38, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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OmairaBarrot's opinion on the missing information in the Educational Inequality Page
[edit]Before I give my opinion on what changes need to be made to the Educational Inequality page, i would first like to say that i am very impressed with the amount of contributions made to the article. Education inequality is a huge problem in the world today and its implications, although they vary by region and community, greatly effect each individual of the world. I think this could be a really informative wiki article. Every country and every community, unfortunately, deals with educational Inequalities. Wikipedia is an amazing platform to use to inform the public about the terrible realities some marginalized communities face.
That being said, the first thing I noticed when reading through the article is that the original definition of educational Inequalities did not completely explain it's meaning nor did it explain how we see it today. Many of the citations don't reference a true source. Some of them actually only reference broken links and nonexistent Web pages .
Official government graphics and visual statistics should be researched and added to the page. Infographics and other government issued publications are considered public domain and are free to use for everyone. Here are some links to government agencies that have studied and released quantitative information about education statistics in the United States:
Many of the blue wiki links lead to incomplete pages or pages that have not even been created yet. Maybe it would help if we added definitions in place of the incomplete and not created wiki pages.
In my opinion, the article is not cohesive. I would suggest rearranging the main points and ideas to follow a more cohesive outline of thoughts and ideas.
This page is only translated into one other language. Having other translations is something that most definitely needs to be done.
OmairaBarrot (talk) 00:26, 22 January 2017 (UTC)OmairaBarrotOmairaBarrot (talk) 00:26, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Factors not mentioned in the article
[edit]I didn't see anything on the public-private disparity, or anything about the demonstrable lack of correlation between educational spending and student achievement. The article reads like a condemnation of the existing order, based on a refusal to provide more funding to schools where kids are lagging behind their peers in well-funded schools. Apparently the only remedy is the throw more money at the problem. This makes for an incomplete article, if not an NPOV violation.
I think we should mention some other ideas about the problem and its solution, such as
- Andrew Coulson's assertion that not only is there no evidence that spending increases improve scores, he says the statistics show that decreases in spending have no discernible effect in negatively influencing student scores. [1] --Uncle Ed (talk) 15:39, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
Quote farm
[edit]- One promising way to improve resource allocation is to give parents the ability to use their children's share of public Education funding to choose the right school for their children. Children benefiting from school choice programs have higher test scores than their peers who do not benefit from school choice. [2]
Moving Inequalities in rural and inner city education into this article
[edit]I'm proposing that we merge Inequalities in rural and inner city education into this article. That covers a specific subset of this topic which is not covered in this article, while its own article has is poorly written and unencyclopedic - written more as if it was for a college course. (it was) It also may be overly specific. Furthermore, it also includes some mentions of other topics, such as ethnicity, which are included in this article. I think that in merging it into this article, we could improve it significantly (through editing and probably some condensing). What are your opinions? LittlePuppers (talk) 00:59, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea; given that there have been no objections in more than a year, I've done this in a fairly simple way. Feel free to cut it down in situ.
Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 13:23, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
Proposed Edits to the Race section
[edit]I am interested in editing the Race section on this page. There is no reference to racial systemic inequalities that cause educational inequalities to persist in the U.S. I would like to expand the Race section to include the causes of inequalities and possibly add another subsection under this that addresses the causes of why racial education inequality in the U.S has persisted despite policy reform. If you visit my User page, you can see some of the proposed sources I plan to use to expand this page. Melired (talk) 23:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Peer Review
[edit]This was an easy read, and good job maintaining neutrality. I would include more sources and images. I think the more important thing to add is a wider variety of sources. AHall08 (talk) 00:41, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
General feedback on the structure and content
[edit]Greetings. Thanks for your writing and engagement with a particularly important topic, and I'm glad to be joining the conversation.
I wish to focus these suggestions on the leader section and ways to clarify the topic presentation:
After reading the leader, it's not immediately clear what the main point of the article is. The definition presented at the onset relies too heavily on examples and omits the international perspective. For example, it maybe true that educational outcomes of inner-city Black students are more limited than their suburban White counterparts, but it's also worth considering that education outcomes are radically different between the United States and the DRC (and other countries). Moreover, it's unclear what exactly "academic resources" refers to, and clarification of this term is vital to the definition as it stands.
The first paragraph continues on by discussing disadvantaged groups, only loosely connecting them back to the topic of educational inequality. Here, significant edits can be made to focus the argument and succinctly describe the different facets of educational inequality.
Considering the second paragraph, the content reads almost as a parenthetical insertion, since it discusses measurement (which can be afforded a section of its own to give justice to the different viewpoints on how to measure efficacy).
Further, the last three paragraphs can be condensed (with specific facts removed and only their implications discussed) to discuss the numerous complex contributors to educational inequality.
In short, if the leader section were whittled down to a few key points upon which to center the argument, it would be much easier to summarize the state of educational inequality for a generalist to understand.
Appreciate your consideration of these suggestions.
Rshrid (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Addition of section on trauma-informed education
[edit]I added a section on trauma-informed education as a remedy to close gaps for marginalized or vulnerable communities. However, most of the literature I found was US-centric. I believe it might be worthwhile for this section to have its own page once sources from other countries can be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Shrivatsa (talk • contribs) 16:45, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
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Merge / create new article
[edit]This article is very focused on the US. It is also poorly organised. I think it might be a good idea to merge it with the already existing article on educational inequalities in the US, then restructure it e.g. one section listing short summaries by country, another listing potential causes discussed in social policy/social science literature. Visiblerose (talk) 10:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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