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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - June 2012
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Welcome to the revamped WikiProject Eurvision newsletter! Yes, we're back after a 2-year absence! After much deliberation it was decided to resurrect the project newsletter, so that everyone can be kept informed of the goings-on around the project cyber-house. This newsletter will be delivered to you on a monthly basis with news, reviews, and updates relating to WikiProject Eurovision.
Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Wikipedia articles, and welcome our new members to the project.
If you would like something to appear in the July 2012 Edition of the newsletter, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
Happy editing,
Important News
There is a RfC discussion in regards to article layout, taking place on the project talk page. Could all members please ensure that they participate in the discussion so that we can all agree on important article structure issues. If you don't take part, then you only have yourselves to blame if a consensus is passed that you disagree with.
When creating new articles about a performer or song, please remember to add sources either from Eurovision.tv, ESCToday or other reliable sources. If you're not sure a source is reliable enough, then ask the project for an opinion.
Data tables of winners for OGAE and Marcel Bezençon Awards have been mass added under the radar across a variety of Eurovision articles without any consensus, which there should be for something like that. These sections have been badly formatted with various problems including inappropriate links in the section headings (discouraged in MOS:HEAD), no written explanation on what these tables mean, and most importantly, no sources.
Remember to only add content to articles that is relevant to the article's main subject. Anything not in relation to the article may be questioned and/or subject to redirection to an article that would benefit it's inclusion. Again if in doubt, ask on the article or project talk pages for an opinion - communication is an important tool.
On the subject of communication, please make use of the article talk pages. They are a vital tool in conducting consensus talks of additions of proposed new sections and/or removal of unnecessary section. If you don't use these pages to put across your views, then you only have yourself to blame if actions are taken that you disagree with and you end up wandering into edit warring territory.
The 2012 season of Eurovision has drawn to a close, and we now start preparations for the 2013 edition. While things will be slow to start of with, now is the ideal opportunity to do a clean-up exercise across articles relating to the project. There's over 4,500 articles associated with the project. If you happen to see a Eurovision related article without the {{EurovisionNotice}} template on the article's talk page, please add it. You can also read Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment if you would like to help assess or reassess articles in our project if you see that they have outgrown their current assessment. There is currently one unassessed article.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
The dates for Eurovision Song Contest 2013 have been announced as 14 May 2013 (semi-final 1); 16 May 2013 (semi-final 2); and 18 May 2013 (final) and will be held in Sweden. The host city is still to be announced; with Gothenburg, Malmö, and Stockholm being among the candidate cities so far.
Asiavision Song Contest - After several postponements, the first contest is now scheduled to take place in the South Korean capital of Seoul; on 14 October 2012.
This Newsletter was delivered by Wesley☀Mouse 13:09, 2 June 2012 (UTC). If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list.
WikiProject Eurovision: This is a reminder to all members of Project Eurovision, that there is still an ongoing RfC discussion taking place at the project talk page. It is vital that everyone participates in this discussion, as it concerns the future manual of style and article layout in regards to Eurovision Song Contest by Year and Junior Eurovision Song Contest by Year articles. This is your ideal opportunity to contribute suggestions and ideas on a major issue, which will reflect on the way these articles will be written in future. Thank You! EdwardsBot (talk) 14:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Naming
Hi. Seems like I have found a fellow citizen of mine :) Regarding your edits in the article of Northern Cyprus, I want to note something. Contributing to English Wikipedia means adopting to the place and using names which are well-established or considered by third-party users as neutral or on which we have a consensus. These are the cases in invasion, Apostolos Andreas and so forth. Even if one personally disagrees, they have to use that name. Insisting on changing them would be considered disruptive. So I would advise you to edit in this context. --Seksen (talk) 15:49, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
KKTC
Selamlar. Daha önce de belirttiğim gibi özellikle İngilizce Vikipedi'ye katkıda bulunmak için belirli şeyleri kabullenmek gerekiyor. Elbette ki kişisel olarak kabul ettiğimiz doğrular olduğumuz için, olayın taraflarından birine mensup olduğumuz için alışmak kolay değil. İtiraf etmeliyim ki benim için de kolay olmadı. Bu bağlamda Vikipedi'de bir şeyleri bu gereklilikten dolayı kabullenmek ile kişisel olarak kabullenmek arasında fark olduğunu belirtmek isterim. Kişisel olarak 74 harekatına "işgal" demezsiniz, ben de demem; ama buradayken kabullenmek zorundayım denilmesini. Nedenlerini bu uzuunca yazıda açıklayacağım :)
Vikipedi'de tarafsız bakış açısı dediğimiz bir kural var. Maddeleri buna uygun yazmak zorundayız. Bunu aşağıda açıklayacağım. Ayrıca madde adlarında ve içlerinde İngilizcedeki yaygın kullanımlar kullanılıyor. Zafer Burnu örneğinde İngilizcede yaygın olarak "Cape Apostolos Andreas" kullanıyor (Google Books aramaları bir fikir verebilir). Bu nedenle bu kullanılmak zorunda. Bu değiştirilebilecek bir durum değil. Bunu kabul etmemek bir şey getirmeyecektir.
Adlara fazla takılınmaması gerektiğini düşünüyorum ben. Kullanıcılara da. Karşımızdaki ister Rum olsun, ister üçüncü ülkeden biri, sunduğu argümanlara odaklanılmalı. Aksi halde üretken bir ortam oluşmaz, sonuç getirmeyen, kısır tartışmalara sürüklenilir. Eğer katılmadığımız bir fikirleri varsa bunu "sen Rumsun, onun için böyle yapıyorsun!" şeklinde değil, onun bakış açısını anlamaya çalışıp, olayın bir diğer tarafı daha olduğunu ve bu tarafın da görüşlerinin böyle olduğunu kabul edip ve bu görüşlere saygı gösterip, bunun ardından katılmadığımız noktaları kibarca dile getirerek ifade etmeliyiz. Değişikliğiniz geri alınırsa çok çok sebebini açıklayarak (ünlemlerden mümkün olduğunca kaçının) bir veya iki defa geri alın (dördüncüde değişiklik yapmanız engellenebilir), daha sonra tartışma sayfasına taşıyın. Vikipedi'de kişiler üzerine yorum yapmak hoş karşılanmaz. Bir önceki paragrafta tarafsız bakış açısından bahsetmiştim. Tabii sahip olduğunuz bakış açısına göre bunun yorumlanışı değişiyor. Yunanlı bir kullanıcı KKTC'deki bir yeri anlatırken uluslararası toplum tarafından işgal altında kabul edildiğine vurgu yapmak isteyebilir; ama Türk bir kullanıcı bu vurguya gerek olmadığını söyleyecektir. Bu durumlarda işte az önce söylediklerim çok önemli. Her iki tarafın da argümanlarının sunulduğu tartışmalarda genelde üçüncü parti kullanıcılar iki tarafın görüşlerini değerlendirerek tarafsız, tercihen herkes için kabul edilebilir bir çözüm bulmaya çalışıyor. "İşgal" olayında üçüncü parti kullanıcılar da tarafsız kullanıcılar bunun doğru kullanım olduğunu düşünüyor, bu daha önce tartışıldığı için defa defa gündeme getirilmesi hoş karşılanmıyor. Eğer üçüncü parti kullanıcılar yoksa kullanıcılar arasında (geçici de olsa) bir anlaşmaya varılarak (ki bu anlaşmaya varılamazsa genelde tartışmalı değişiklikten önceki sürüm oluyor, standart uygulama böyle) sorun çözülüyor.
Uzun lafın kısası, burada esas olan Vikipedi'nin savaş alanı olmadığını unutmamak, olayların diğer bakış açılarına saygı gösterip kibarca tartışabilmek ve yeri geldiğinde kişisel görüşlerimize uygun düşmese de bazı şeyleri kabul edebilmek. Bunlar unutulmadığında verim doğuyor, kazanan maddeler oluyor, kazanan Vikipedi oluyor.
Yardımcı olabildiysem ne mutlu bana. İleride de danışmaktan çekinmeyin lütfen. Eyi çalışmalar :)
Hi. As I have said before, one need to accept things especially in order to be able to contribute to English Wikipedia. Of course as we all have our own truths, and as we belong to one of the sides of the dispute, it is not easy to adapt. To be honest, it was not easy for me either. In this context, I want to note that accepting something on Wikipedia and accepting something personally are different things. Personally, you might not call the operation in 1974 an "invasion", neither I do, but here you must accept it to be called an "invasion". I am going to explain why in this long, long message :)
There is a rule we call the neutral point of view in Wikipedia. We need to write articles in accordance to this. I will explain it further below. Furthermore, common names are used in article names or inside articles. In the case of Cape Victory, the common English usage is "Cape Apostolos Andreas" (Google Books search results might provide you with an idea). This means that this name has to be used. This is not something that can be changed. Not accepting this would not produce anything.
I think that one must not stick to names in Wikipedia. And neither to users. We can be talking to a Greek or a person from another country and descent, we need to focus on their arguments. If this is not done, a productive environment is not formed and this results in unproductive discussions. If they have an idea you disagree with, don't say, "oh, you are a Greek, that's why you are doing this!". Instead of this, try to understand his/her viewpoint, accept that there is another side to that discussion and that side thinks like that, and respect those views, and then express the points you do not agree with in a polite manner. If your edit is reverted, you may bring it back one of two times adequately explaining it reason (preferably without explanation marks), and then start a discussion in the talk page. Commenting on users is discouraged in Wikipedia. I have mentioned the neutral point of view in the previous paragraph. Of course, the way you perceive this depends on your viewpoint. A Greek user may like to stress the fact that it is considered to be occupied by the international community in an article about, say, a place in the TRNC, whereas a Turkish user would say that this emphasis is unnecessary. In these cases, what I have said is very important. In discussion where arguments of both sides are presented, third-party users are often involved in finding a neutral solution which would preferably satisfy everyone. In the case of "invasion", third-party users think that this is the correct use and as this issue has been discussed before, new attempts to discuss this naming are often not welcomed.
So, in short, what it important is not to forget that Wikipedia is not a battleground, to respect other points of view, to discuss in a polite manner and to be able to accept things even if we do not accept them in person. If these are remembered, the result is often productivity, and it is the articles and Wikipedia that wins.
I am glad if I have been helpful. Do not hesitate to ask should you have any questions. Have a nice night :)
Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Wikipedia articles, and welcome our new members to the project. It is easy for editors to get into conflict with each other, and things can get very nasty on the most trivial of issues, whether that be on the language of songs, the names of certain countries, or how we deal with incidents at the contest. In such circumstances it is worth remembering one thing: we are all here to build an encyclopedia, and the contribution of Eurovision to human knowledge can only be given justice if we work together and make articles, not drama!
If you would like something to appear in the August 2012 Edition of the newsletter, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
When creating new articles about a performer or song, please remember to add sources either from Eurovision.tv, ESCToday or other reliable sources. If you're not sure a source is reliable enough, then ask the project for an opinion.
Remember to only add content to articles that is relevant to the article's main subject. Anything not in relation to the article may be questioned and/or subject to redirection to an article that would benefit it's inclusion. Again if in doubt, ask on the article or project talk pages for an opinion - communication is an important tool.
On the subject of communication, please make use of the article talk pages. They are a vital tool in conducting consensus talks of additions of proposed new sections and/or removal of unnecessary section. If you don't use these pages to put across your views, then you only have yourself to blame if actions are taken that you disagree with and you end up wandering into edit warring territory.
The 2012 season of Eurovision has drawn to a close, and we now start preparations for the 2013 edition. While things will be slow to start of with, now is the ideal opportunity to do a clean-up exercise across articles relating to the project. There's over 4,500 articles associated with the project. If you happen to see a Eurovision related article without the {{EurovisionNotice}} template on the article's talk page, please add it. You can also read Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment if you would like to help assess or reassess articles in our project if you see that they have outgrown their current assessment. There is currently one unassessed article.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following alerts have flagged up:
The RfC discussion in regards to article layout, is still taking place on the project talk page. Could all members please ensure that they participate in the discussion so that we can all agree on important article structure issues. If you don't take part, then you only have yourselves to blame if a consensus is passed that you disagree with.
So far 20 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Sweden. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
The EBU extended the submission deadline to 29 June 2012. So far only 8 countries confirmed participations, and the contest needs a minimum of eleven in order for the show to continue. Bulgaria have withdrawn.
On 11 May 2012, Norwegian, Eivind Holtsmark Ringstad, won the 16th Eurovision Young Musicians 2012, in Vienna, Austria. This is a biennial event, and the next contest will take place in 2014, with Vienna most likely to be the host nation for a fifth consecutive time.
Glasgow were the hosts of the Eurovision Dance Contest 2008, and since then there have been no announcements of the contest continuing with a third edition.
Members The project had 90 members, with eighty-six active, and four inactive members at the time of publication. If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list Have you encountered an editor who is interested in Eurovision? Then why not place our invitation template on their talk page and welcome them to the project..
New Recruits
We would like to welcome the following new members who joined since our June publication. (in alphabetical order)
We would like to bid farewell and show our appreciation to the following members who have decided to depart the project for personal reasons since our June publication. (in alphabetical order)
This newsletter was delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, Adem. You have new messages at Jac16888's talk page. Message added 16:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Wikipedia articles, and welcome our new members to the project.
The past month has been an eventful one for the project as a whole. Old dramas have closed, new ones have begun. Four articles nominated for GA review, three of them passed and promoted, with one of them making ProjectEurovision history by being the first annual contest article to ever achieve GA status. If it wasn't for the hard work and the many hours of team collaborations that we have endured on this project, then those accolades would never have been gained. Each of those article promotions are as a result of your continuous determination to be part of the best team this project has seen for a long time. There is a teamwork barnstar with this newsletter for you to cherish and you may display the award on your pages if you wish. Now we look to the months ahead and start preparations for Malmo 2013, and see if we can work to getting another annual article to GA status. Here's to you - the team of excellence.
If you would like something to appear in the September 2012 Edition of the newsletter, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following alerts have flagged up:
So far 21 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Sweden. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
Israel announced on 10 July 2012 that they will make their début in Amsterdam. Thus bringing the total number of confirmed participant to 9 countries so far. The contest needs a minimum of eleven in order for the show to continue. The EBU had extended the submission deadline to 29 June 2012, although no further details in regards to the contest has been released.
On 11 May 2012, Norwegian, Eivind Holtsmark Ringstad, won the 16th Eurovision Young Musicians 2012, in Vienna, Austria. This is a biennial event, and the next contest will take place in 2014, with Vienna most likely to be the host nation for a fifth consecutive time.
Glasgow were the hosts of the Eurovision Dance Contest 2008, and since then there have been no announcements of the contest continuing with a third edition.
The RfC discussion in regards to article layout, is still taking place on the project talk page. Could all members please ensure that they participate in the discussion so that we can all agree on important article structure issues. If you don't take part, then you only have yourselves to blame if a consensus is passed that you disagree with.
Creating a page for each country participating in the contest each year. This will give information about the year in Eurovision for that country, like how the song was chosen (selection events), how well it did, any other information about its participation that year.
On Wikipedia, it is very important not only to have the correct information, but to show where you got it from so it can be verified. Editor's should be finding additional sources to reference information with.
This project also includes checking all similar pages to make sure things are consistent across the board and correcting any errors. A listing of pages marked for some sort of cleanup is available here.
When creating new articles about a performer or song, please remember to add sources either from Eurovision.tv, ESCToday or other reliable sources. If you're not sure a source is reliable enough, then ask others members of the project.
Assessing project pages. The first thing to do to assess an article is to add {{EurovisionNotice}}, the project banner, to the talk page of an article if it does not have one. If an article already has a banner, you should assess the article using the assessment scale. Assessing articles gives us a good idea about the quality of the articles in our project and can help identify short comings.
Remember to only add content to articles that is relevant to the article's main subject. Anything not in relation to the article may be questioned and/or subject to redirection to an article that would benefit it's inclusion. Again if in doubt, ask on the article or project talk pages for an opinion - communication is an important tool.
On the subject of communication, please make use of the article talk pages. They are a vital tool in conducting consensus talks of additions of proposed new sections and/or removal of unnecessary section. If you don't use these pages to put across your views, then you only have yourself to blame if actions are taken that you disagree with and you end up wandering into edit warring territory.
Members The project had 92 members, with eighty-eight active, and four inactive members at the time of publication. If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list Have you encountered an editor who is interested in Eurovision? Then why not place our invitation template on their talk page and welcome them to the project..
The Teamwork Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to every member of Project Eurovision for their contributions as a team towards Eurovision Song Contest 2012 article, which as a result gained the project its first Eurovision by Year article a GA Status. Thank you! - WP:ESC
New Recruits
We would like to welcome the following new members who joined since our July publication.
Please note that there have been some changes to operations surrounding Eurovision articles, these being that:
Template names have now been modernised and/or megred into super-templates, for example Countries in the Eurovision Song Contest has now been merged into Template:Eurovision Song Contest making it even easier to find everything under one template. If you are planning to create a new template, please keep the standardised titles in mind. Other templates have been modernised and a full list of them can be found here.
The Eurovision Song Contest and Junior Eurovision Song Contest articles have now been standardised to keep a consitancy throughout the project and to the genral reader too. Skeleton article drafts can be found for Eurovision Song Contest by Year and Junior Eurovision Song Contest by Year.
You are receiving this message since you are listed as a member of WikiProject Eurovision. If you are no longer interested in contributing to Eurovision articles, please remove your username from this page.
Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Wikipedia articles, and welcome our new members to the project. Remember that this project can only operate if we act in a cooperative manner and engage in discussions regarding article matters. It is seen as best practice to put forward ideas to other members of the project before rushing ahead and acting on a potential falsifying action. If you feel an article may warrant a deletion, why not test the waters by opening a discussion on the article's talk page or our very own project talk page - before rushing off and submitting an AfD. It saves wasting time nominating an article for deletion which could end up with an overwhelming "keep" by other editors. Communicating with each other is a vital tool and a skill that may prove advantageous in real-life scenarios.
Also be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
If you would like something to appear in the October 2012 Edition of the newsletter, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following alerts have flagged up:
The RfC discussion in regards to article layout has now closed. Visit here to read the concluding report. A new discussion is taking place regarding a proposal on Project Reform. You contributions in the discussion are vital.
On 11 May 2012, Norwegian, Eivind Holtsmark Ringstad, won the 16th Eurovision Young Musicians 2012, in Vienna, Austria. This is a biennial event, and the next contest will take place in 2014, with Vienna most likely to be the host nation for a fifth consecutive time.
Glasgow were the hosts of the Eurovision Dance Contest 2008, and since then there have been no announcements of the contest continuing with a third edition.
So far 25 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Sweden. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
Albania announced on 25 July 2012 that they will make their début in Amsterdam, and Moldova confirmed their participation. Thus bringing the total number of confirmed participant to eleven countries so far.
Asiavision Pte's Our Sound: The Asia-Pacific Song Contest seems to have been indefinitely postponed. However, the Asia-Pacific Broadcasting Union (ABU) are launching their own versions; which are not to be confused with Our Sound or Eurovision Song Contest. The "cultural extravaganza" concept may be the same, but the format is completely different. The Radio Festival will be competitive, while the TV Festival is just a showcase of music so is non-competitive.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 - Twenty-six entries from sixteen countries took part in a preliminary selection round. Of those, fifteen have been selected and will perform in the first ABU Radio Song Festival on 11 October 2012.
ABU TV Song Festival 2012 - Thirteen countries have confirmed participation in the first ABU TV Song Festival on 14 October 2012.
Members The project had 90 members, with eighty-six active, and four inactive members at the time of publication. If you are no longer interested in WikiProject Eurovision then please remove your name from this list Have you encountered an editor who is interested in Eurovision? Then why not place our invitation template on their talk page and welcome them to the project..
New Recruits
We would like to welcome the following new members who joined since our last publication.
It is important that all members of this project participate in the discussion so that we can share our views on how these articles should be presented, what content could do with being added/removed. If a consensus is reached and you have failed to participate then you only have yourself to blame if you disagreed with the layout style that has been reached.
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This mini memorandum has been delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 13:51, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Turkey's Location Issue
Hello,
I ask you to please set politics and culture aside and please look at a map. You will see that Turkey has more land mass in Asia rather than in Europe. Although Turkey is a candidate of the European Union; Turkey is also a member of numerous Asian regional bodies. You are correct to state that Armenia is stated in some articles as being Europe. Armenia is located in Asia, including Cyprus even though it is a member of the European Union. Please take to mind that just because a country joins a regional body, does not mean that its geography has changed. Germany, for example is a member of the Mediterranean Union. Germany obviously does not border the Mediterranean. Spain has territory in Africa. Spain is not in Africa. Egypt has the Sinai peninsula in Asia. However, people do not regard Egypt as an Asian country. There are many examples to give, however the facts are simple to see.
The references you gave were two. However, you seemed to overlook the part where it says "South eastern Europe and south western Asia." The CIA website states the same as well as the Turkish government sponsored website of goTurkey[1]. This website states that the Marmara region is only 8% of Turkey. Istanbul is in this region and that is what makes Turkey only partially within the European continent. Why overlook the other 92% of the country which is within Asia?
I have been an editing member in Wikipeida for five years, and you are not the first to bring up the question of whether or not Turkey is part of Asia or Europe. The general consensus has been that Turkey is within Asia, that is why almost all of the articles (minus the ones you just changed) place Turkey in Asia. Please refer to the numerous talk pages. Aquintero (talk) 18:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
The London Olympic and Paralympic games have ended, and just as their motto stated, they truly did inspire a generation. This got me thinking how could we as a project for Eurovision related material may be able to inspire the next generation of Eurovision fans? RfC discussions have already underway on the project talk page regarding article layouts, how we can better present our articles to provide a more in-depth knowledge into the contests. One such discussion in regards to layout of Contest by Year articles has already become a success, and provided the project with its first ever GA-class article. So in reality, implementing the same layout across other articles should produce the same output. A similar discussion into layout style for Country in a Contest related articles is also taking place. This project is constantly evolving as more and more editors join the team. We've redesigned the home page for Project Eurovision in a bid it entices new people to join the team. A project can't survive on stale movement, it needs evolution to add excitement to the project. So lets use October to inspire each other to do better, to work more collaboratively, and to entice the next generation of editors to the project team.
Also be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
If you would like something to appear in the next edition of Eurovision Monthly, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
So far 35 countries have confirmed participation for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, which is scheduled to take place in Malmö. Please remember to only cite reliable sources when adding countries to the article.
7 countries have announced the dates of their national finals.
Andorra, Czech Republic, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, and Morocco confirm they will not be present in Malmö.
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. 12 countries have confirmed their participation with Albania, Azerbaijan, and Israel making their début.
4 countries have already selected either a song, artists, or both. With 6 national selections taking place these next few weeks.
Azerbaijan, Israel, and Moldova have yet to announce their national selection plans.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 - Fifteen entries will perform in the first ABU Radio Song Festival on 11 October 2012. Please check for information on this contest as it happens and update the article accordingly.
ABU TV Song Festival 2012 - Eleven countries have confirmed participation in the first ABU TV Song Festival on 14 October 2012. Please check for information on this contest as it happens and update the article accordingly.
Mongolia who had already selected their representative, withdrew from the contest on 14 September.
We could do with members working on creating Country pages for each participant. Please make sure to use reliable source when citing content. And for those unfamiliar on how to create a new article, contact someone on the project talk page or use a sandbox.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
We are almost at the end of another great Eurovision year, with preparations now well under way for the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest. Individual entry articles are slowly appearing at Template:Eurovision Song Contest 2013, although as happens every year, there is tendency to create these article prematurely. Please don't create them without a good two paragraphs of information to post, and with at least two reliable sources of information cited - remember every article has to pass the Wikipedia:Notability guideline independently.
There is a lot going on at WT:EURO at the moment too, and every project member should have this talk page on their watchlist. The current RfC on country article layout is suffering from a lack of participation - myself and others may not agree with every suggestion made, but we won't bite people's heads off, so please feel free to comment! If you feel like you'll be out of your depth over there, you should know that it was a suggestion by a newbie that resulted in a complete re-structuring of all Eurovion templates, so you don't have to be an "old timer" to bring new ideas to the table! On the same page is a proposal to re-license Eurovision logos uploaded locally, and since this will have a big impact on how we handle logos, some further feedback would be appreciated.
As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
If you would like something to appear in the next edition of Eurovision Monthly, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.
And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
Please only add countries who have explicitly stated they will be competing, citing a reliable source. Anything not cited may be removed. If in doubt - ask someone for an opinion!
The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Twelve countries have confirmed their participation with Albania, Azerbaijan, and Israel making their début.
As the contest will be starting in the next few weeks, then the article may become subjected to vandalism from random IP accounts. Please be vigilant and revert any vandalism that you find. Thank you.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 - On 11 October 2012 the first ABU Radio Song Festival took place in the Korean capital of Seoul. South Korea won the Grand Prix award with the song "For a Rest" performed by boy band Billy Acoustie. Danielle Blakey representing Australia won the gold award with the song "Fearless", Brunei received the silver award with the song "The sweetest memory" performed by Maria Aires, with Sammy Ray Jones also representing Australia receiving the bronze award with his song "Rinet". K-Town Clan representing Malaysia received the special jury award with their song "Party Animal" and thus finished in fifth place.
ABU TV Song Festival 2012 - Eleven countries performed in the first ABU TV Song Festival on 14 October 2012. The contest was non-competitive and thus no winners.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
With the festive season a matter of days away and 2012 rapidly drawing to a close, I'd like to take the time to reflect on the last 12 months as a project community, and look ahead to 2013. 2012 witnessed the period when Azerbaijan got to showcase their capital city Baku to the rest of Europe. Preparations for the contest were not the smoothest ever seen, but come the day of the contest everything seemed to have knitted together OK. Concerns over the longevity of the Junior Contest were also raised when the lowest participation ever recorded. Fans worried that the contest would be brought to an abrupt end, however, with 3 new countries debuting the contest went ahead as planned.
The project also seen the start of two new contests, ABU Radio Song Festival and ABU TV Song Festival, which were both staged in the Korean capital of Seoul. The host nation won the first edition of the festival. And so we look ahead to 2013, with Sweden hosting the Eurovision Song Contest for a fifth time, and for the second time in the city of Malmö. Vietnam is expected to host the 2013 ABU TV Song Festival, with the Radio Festival having a year break, which won't be hosted again until 2014 in Australia. Details about the 2013 Junior Eurovision Song Contest are still unknown. As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
And so I would like to take this opportunity to wish all our project members a Very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
Please only add countries who have explicitly stated they will be competing, citing a reliable source. Anything not cited may be removed. If in doubt - ask someone for an opinion!
Ukraine won the tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest, in Amsterdam, Netherlands, with the song "Nebo" performed by Anastasia Petryk. Twelve countries participated with Albania, Azerbaijan, and Israel making their début.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
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Taiwan
Hello Maurice. Are you interested to share your two cents at Talk:Taiwan#Split? (Interestingly, contributors in both Talk:Taiwan#Split and Talk:Cyprus#Split the article made use of arguments such as "insignificant", "people won't understand", and "people who aren't familiar will be confused".) 14.0.208.68 (talk) 23:31, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
December 2012
Your recent editing history at Turkey shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 22:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did at Turkey, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 22:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Template:Countries and territories of the Mediterranean Sea shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. I told you before but I am telling you again: Please read the message on top of the template: PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS TEMPLATE IS ONLY MEANT TO INCLUDE THOSE COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES RECOGNISED BY A MAJORITY OF UNITED NATIONS MEMBERS). Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 02:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - January 2013
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A Very Happy New Year to all members of Project Eurovision. I hope you've all had a fabulous festive season, whatever it consisted of. As you will be well aware the 2013 Eurovision season is already in full-swing with some countries already having selected their representatives and/or song. The national selection season will get busier over the next coming weeks, so be on the look out for reliable sources so that we keep the article as up-to-date as possible. Avoid edit warring too, by keeping in regular communication with fellow members of this project, as well as remembering to provide a brief detail of your contributions via the edit summary. Please also remember to check the project article clean-up list below, and help to improve the articles that are a part of our project.
As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
Here's to a prosperous 2013, and I look forward to working with you all in the coming months. Happy editing!
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
Please only add countries who have explicitly stated they will be competing, citing a reliable source. Anything not cited may be removed. If in doubt - ask someone for an opinion!
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
Your recent editing history at Languages of Europe shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 14:06, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Xanthi shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 14:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Restoring a 3RR complaint which still needs a closure
It looks to me that you have engaged in long-term edit warring at List of diplomatic missions of the United Kingdom. You had already been blocked last September for a previous episode of the same war, per: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive770#Runaway edit-warring by Maurice07. Whether Turkey is in Europe or not is a familiar issue for admins who watch these articles, and it is not a surprise to see people reverting this back and forth. You are expected to seek consensus for your views in a dispute like that. Can you point to any discussion where your position is supported?
You may be able to avoid sanctions for long-term edit warring if you will agree to wait for consensus before making any further edits which assume that Turkey is in Europe. If you accept this offer, please respond at the noticeboard. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 18:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Languages of Europe shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 01:31, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Languages of Europe shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 01:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - February 2013
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The Eurovision season is in full-swing, with many national selections taking place. Be on the look out for reliable sources and news content that may be used to keep the 2013 article as up to date as possible. There are also a couple of project discussions taking place at WT:ESC, it would be helpful if as many of the project members participated in them. Afterall it is your contributions that helps to keep this project alive. You have a voice, use it. Please could we also help to improve the articles listed below, they vary from stub articles that require expansion, to general tidy-up and additional sources required.
As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
And finally the ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 article has been awarded GA Class making it the project's second annual article to have been awarded this accolade. Congratulations to all those who helped to contribute to the article. Happy editing!
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
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Please only add countries who have explicitly stated they will be competing, citing a reliable source. Anything not cited may be removed. If in doubt - ask someone for an opinion!
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
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Karanlık ve kasvetli İstanbul
Tam da "Midnight Express" filmi ile yaratılmak istenen klişeleşmiş imajı desteklemişsin. Sarai Sierra cinayeti ile de uyumlu bir atmosfer olmuş. "Karanlık, ışıksız, korkutucu, kaotik, kasvetli, itici, yobaz bir şehir" imajı. 88.251.90.139 (talk) 14:58, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Öncelikle sizin görüşünüze saygı duyuyorum fakat başka kullanıcıların düşüncelerine de saygı duymalısınız! "Midnight Express" filmini izledim bunun silüet fotoğrafı ile uzaktan yakından hiçbir alâkası bulunmuyor. Silüet fotoğrafları adı üstünde güneşin batışı veya doğuşu esnasında çekilen fotoğraflardır. Doğal olarak ön planda kalan eserin ve ya binanın karanlıkta kalması son derece doğal olduğunu düşünüyorum. Sarai Siera cinayetinin bu süreç ile ilgisini kavrayamadım. Ayrıca bunun abartıldığı kanısındayım. Maurice (talk) 16:35, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting all administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.
For God's sake!
Now,why I'm blocked by User:The Blade of the Northern Lights?There is no any explanation??? I can't really make any sense. Your talk page unavailable. I wonder,what's my fault? This is really unacceptable !!! Maurice (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
I've been blocked by administrator The Blade of the Northern Lights in 26 February 2013 because of using an IP to evade sanctions. I saw this decision last night and my first reaction is located above. Firstly; there is no legal basis of this decision. Because,this IP address, that is used by me,don't have any concrete evidence. I have topic banned about Greece and related articles. I agree and I have blocked a few and did not appeal. I saw referred to the activities of the IP user. Have similar changes. Xanthi, Echinos, List of territorial disputes, Mediterranean Sea and List of diplomatic missions of Bulgaria but I have not done any changes in Soufli and Alexandroupoli so far ! Also; same IP user has made changes to a photo uploaded by me in Wikipedia Commons and I saw that the Greek definition removed. When I first uploaded, would not do Greek description. In short, I do not accept these claims and request reconsideration of this decision. Maurice (talk) 5:06 pm, Yesterday (UTC+0)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Eurovision-fever is vast upon us with all songs and artists having already been selected, and the contest itself is just around the corner. So we as a collective need to be as vigilant as possible when it comes to content being updated to respective articles connected to Malmö 2013. Please remember to use citations to reliable sources on everything. If in doubt, then use the article talk page and/or the project talk page for open discussion.
The project has yet again gained another accolade on an annual article with the ABU TV Song Festival 2012 receiving GA classification. That is now 3 within a year, with the first being Eurovision Song Contest 2012 back in July last year, and ABU Radio Song Festival 2012 being the second last month. Congratulations once again to everyone who has helped to contribute to those respective articles. Now that we're gaining high accolades, let's see if we can maintain that by continuing to work as a team.
Please could we also help to improve the articles listed below, they vary from stub articles that require expansion, to general tidy-up and additional sources required. As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
Please can we also remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
The eleventh edition of Junior Eurovision is scheduled to take place in Kyiv, Ukraine on 30 November 2013.
Please can we remember to keep this article well presented based on the layout that was agreed upon via the Project RfC. If in doubt, check Eurovision Song Contest 2012 as an example. That article is using the new layout format and gained the project it's first GA-class on annual pages. Let's maintain that high standard.
Also remember to communicate with fellow project members via the article talk or Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
The second ABU TV Song Festival is scheduled to take place on 26 October 2013, in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi. The host broadcaster will be Vietnam Television.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia.
As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
I've been blocked again by administrator The Blade of the Northern Lights in 28 March 2013 because of Greek topic ban. Really, that's enough!! This change can not be considered as a topic ban. See edit: [4] Table of Muslim and non-Muslim population in Turkey, 1914-2005 not Greek population in Turkey. Recognition of any right of defense and explanation, you are being blocked. This is not fair.Maurice (talk) 22:28, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Procedural decline - this is an Arbitration Committee block enforced by The Blade of the Northern Lights for the Committee. No admin will overturn this block here. You must follow the instructions in the second line of the box above - the one with the scales in it - if you wish to be unblocked. Peridon (talk) 22:36, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
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April 2013
I've blocked you for one week for edit warring at World Tourism rankings. I find it staggering that you're still repeating the same mistakes you made six months ago. Let me make this clear - no matter how much you disagree with someone, edit warring is unacceptable in any case. The only case in which you may revert users like that is when someone is blatantly, maliciously vandalizing the project. Otherwise, don't do it.
I've blocked you for one week. However, please note that you are at the end of your rope; if this happens again, there will be serious repercussions.
You are welcome to ask any questions here if you feel I haven't explained something adequately. Regards, m.o.p 14:16, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
April 2013
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
I've been blocked by Master of Puppets in 13 April 2013 because of edit warring.When I complained to an IP-user editing war on the Administrators' noticeboard [5] I'm being blocked for a week and this issue connects to the "Greek topic ban. It's really not fair and unacceptableMaurice (talk) 14:46,13 April 2013 (UTC)
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You'll really need to address your own edit warring to have your unblock request considered. You've been blocked, what, six times in six months? You need to figure out why that's happening. --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:00, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - April 2013
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With less than a month to go until we find out who is the winner of the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, the article itself is already looking impressive and is written with such broad scope and covering almost every piece of news in an encyclopaedic style of course. The show hasn't even started and the article is looking very much like a GA-class article. Well done everyone for helping to maintain the high standards of editing on articles as well as engaging in open discussion via the talk pages. Hopefully this should be helping to increase team moral with the project - keep up the good work folks! The ABU have announced the host city for the ABU TV Song Festival 2013 which is due to take place on 26 October 2013. Please could everyone keep a look out across the worldwide web for any news on the festival itself and update the article accordingly.
On a different note, if anyone is feeling a little bit bored and looking for things to do, then why not help to improve the articles listed below, they vary from stub articles that require expansion, to general tidy-up and additional sources required. It is your contributions that help to improve Wikipedia's sustainability and legacy of being one of the largest reference websites. As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
This article is coming along very nicely. Very impressed that members are adhering to the layout style and working cooperatively and peacefully as a team. Already the article is looking like a promising GA classification similar to Eurovision Song Contest 2012, and the contest hasn't even begun. Continue with the good work.
The contest itself begins next month, so please keep an eye out for any latest news that may be relevant for inclusion to the article. If in doubt, then open up a new discussion thread either at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2013 or the Project talk page, as communication is an important tool if we aim to collaborate as part of a team.
The second ABU TV Song Festival is scheduled to take place on 26 October 2013, in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi. The host broadcaster will be Vietnam Television.
The article is already up and running. Your help to improve the article is gratefully appreciated. Keep a look out for news articles regarding participations etc. So far only the host nation Vietnam are confirmed.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - It was announced on 11 October 2012 that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Australia hosted by radio broadcaster ABC Australia. As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
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Your recent editing history at Hijab by country shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 22:14, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Not only that but reverting without an edit-summary is totally unacceptable. Were you hoping no one would notice? Athenean (talk) 02:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Regards, Aquintero, (talk), 19:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Armenia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 10:54, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Armenia, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 21:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Reminder to administrators: In March 2010, ArbCom adopted a procedure prohibiting administrators "from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page." Administrators who reverse an arbitration enforcement block, such as this one, without clear authorisation will be summarily desysopped.
Reported
You have been reported under AA2 for your disruption in Armenian related articles. Proudbolsahye (talk) 18:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Your use of multiple Wikipedia accounts
Hi. An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maurice07, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.
Well we have a winner of the Eurovision Song Contest 2013, and the 2014 article is already up and running. However, the work on the 2013 edition is still not complete. Over the next few weeks many editors will be doing the final clean-up operation on the article, and we hope to achieve yet another GA classification on the article in the coming months. We will of course keep you all updated of the progress via the newsletter.
But if you are already starting to get Eurovision withdrawal symptoms, then don't panic. We have the ABU TV Song Festival in Vietnam to look forward to, as well as the Junior Eurovision Song Contest in Kiev. Your contributions to both of these articles are gratefully appreciated. Remember it is teamwork collaborations that help to make this project a success.
As always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
Bonnie Tyler failed to achieve GA status on 8 May 2013, see here for the rejection reasons. If anyone can help to improve the article based on the reasons, then feel free to do so.
Click here to view the full list of new and existing alerts.
Just in case you've been sleeping under a rock recently, "Only Teardrops", by Danish singer Emmelie de Forest won the 58th Eurovision Song Contest with a score of 281 points.
In what is becoming a regularity with new Eurovision articles, they are potential subjects to vandalism, so be on guard and revert any vandalistic edits.
Also make sure you only add verified content to the article, including countries that have confirmed.
Avoid using the term "possible debut", "possible return", and "possible withdrawal". The term possible makes us sound speculative and is prohibited per Crystal Ball guidelines. Any such information should be added to the "Other countries" section, with a citation for verifiability.
The second ABU TV Song Festival is scheduled to take place on 26 October 2013, in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi. The host broadcaster will be Vietnam Television.
The article is already up and running. Your help to improve the article is gratefully appreciated. Keep a look out for news articles regarding participations etc. So far only Vietnam and Indonesia are confirmed.
ABU Radio Song Festival 2014 - The Asia-Pacific Broadcasting Union (ABU) have confirmed that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Colombo, Sri Lanka hosted by national broadcaster MBC Networks. As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
Another month has gone by and with plenty of ups and downs within this project. An RfC has been rebooted on the project talk page (see Project Alerts below for more details). The OGAE articles are undergoing a complete rewrite to make these articles look more presentable and give more encyclopaedic value to them. They were in a disastrous and neglected state previously, so it is about time they got some well needed TLC treatment given to them all. Eurovision Song Contest 2013 is looking near completed, and in preparation for a GA-class submission. A huge thank you to all those who have contributed on that article in the last 12 months - some WikiLove to everyone for your continuous teamwork.
For those of you who have got Eurovision withdrawal symptoms, then don't panic. We have the ABU TV Song Festival 2013 in Vietnam to look forward to, as well as the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2013 in Kiev. Your contributions to both of these articles are gratefully appreciated. Remember it is teamwork collaborations that help to make this project a success. And as always, be on the look out for potential new members to the project. Post {{subst:EurovisionInvite}} (which will produced this template) on any user page you think is interested to join the WikiProject, to officially invite them to join.
Please remember to keep checking the project articles that have been flagged up as an alert. Since our last publication the following are listed as alerts:
There is a RFC taking place on the project talk page which could do with as many members contributing to it. Your say will help to achieve consensus on how '[Country]' in the Eurovision Song Contest articles should be stylised and written more encyclopaedically for the general audience and not just for the average ESC-fan. Please KEEP IT CIVIL!!!
Eurovision Song Contest 2013 will shortly be going through the annual process of a post-Contest tidy-up, in preparation for a GA-class submission. We will keep you posted of that process in due course.
OGAE and other articles relating to the organisation are going through an extensive rewriting exercise. Some of the article were in a very poor state, with the lead section of OGAE being an exact word-for-word copy of the "about us" section of OGAE's Facebook page. This was a violation of WP:COPYVIO, and has now been averted thanks to Wesley's hard work fixing the articles.
Click here to view the full list of new and existing alerts.
A semi-protection has been placed onto the article to prevent further disruptive and unsourced editing from IPs. The protection expires in September 2013.
Remember to use reliable sources at all times. Anything unsourced and/or is using an unreliable source will be removed. A list of some reliable sources can be found by clicking here.
Avoid using the term "possible debut", "possible return", and "possible withdrawal". The term possible makes us sound speculative and is prohibited per Crystal Ball guidelines. Any such information should be added to the "Other countries" section, with a citation for verifiability.
Also make sure that you regularly communicate with fellow project members via article talk pages. Communication is a natural human skill, and we should be trying our best to discuss things with each other, so that we all know what is going on. None of us are mind-readers.
The second ABU TV Song Festival is scheduled to take place on 26 October 2013, in the Vietnamese capital of Hanoi in the Opera House. The host broadcaster will be Vietnam Television.
The article is already up and running. Your help to improve the article is gratefully appreciated. Keep a look out for news articles regarding participations etc. So far only Vietnam and Indonesia are confirmed.
The Asia-Pacific Broadcasting Union (ABU) have confirmed that the 2014 Radio Festival will take place in Colombo, Sri Lanka hosted by national broadcaster MBC Networks. As it is too soon to start work on the new article, can we please try and avoid creating one. Unless of course, there's enough information out there that would warrant an early creation.
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June 2013
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You provided a link, but it doesn't lead anywhere.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh, found it. No, my liking has nothing to do with the edit. Such detailed information don't belong to a country-level article, especially not in image captions.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
WikiProject Eurovision - Memorandum
Eurovision Mini Memorandum
30 June 2013
There are a couple of discussions taking place via the project talk page that require urgent attention from as many members as possible. These are...
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At the time of publication the project statistics were as follows
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Removing the picture of a Greek Orthodox Church
Please do not violate your sanctions again: [6]. Thank you. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 02:23, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Checking further, this is the second time you removed the Church picture using also a misleading edit-summary: [7]. Let me remind you: You are banned from Greek-Turkish relations broadly construed. Next stop will be Arbitration Enforcement. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις 02:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did at Turkey, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Armenia, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
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