User talk:Amaury/2015/September
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User Jmichelson27
Hi Amaury, I have given Jmichelson27 a new warning about edit warring on Henry Danger after this edit, with a detailed explanation of why they're being informed of the edit warring. Essentially giving them one last opportunity to cooperate with the other editors and advising them not to resubmit the same kind of edit as has been done at least three times already; the final step before administrators are informed again about their editing. MPFitz1968 (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
If you check the Zap2it episode guides, you can see that they include the colon, e.g. "K.C. Undercover: Episode Guide", that's why I added them, but I don't really mind either way. nyuszika7h (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure why you removed "Story by" and "Teleplay by", but in that case, there's no point in listing Corinne Marshall twice. nyuszika7h (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: Ah, okay. I really need to pay more attention as to the why for some things, haha! I think it's just something they do, but it does look better without the colon, in my opinion. I've removed the duplicate name. I think it's really just necessary for us to know who wrote it, again, in my opinion. Amaury (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to note a few things about this edit you made to Liv and Maddie:
- In my opinion at least, removing bolding from character names makes the distinction between individual characters much less clear, as the line spacing is too small and there's a lot of text, especially in the main character list. I think the usage of boldface is entirely reasonable in this case. (Also, maybe we could do a WP:SPLIT of the character list.)
- Per MOS:LQ, punctuation usually goes outside quotation marks.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyuszika7H (talk • contribs) 21:50, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: That's actually a couple things (two). :P Anyway, on your first point, I don't disagree with you there, but per WP:MOSBOLD, that's actually an inappropriate use of bold. I was corrected on this myself, both in regard to names and the guest star(s) and note labels, when I first started cleaning up what's listed here. As for the character split, it certainly seems like it's appropriate to do now, which would take care of the "issue" you mentioned, so feel more than free to start a discussion on the talk page. On your second point, I can easily fix that by copying the article into OpenOffice Writer and doing a find and replace, which is what I did earlier. I know it's different in the UK, but I guess it's also different here. From what I learned in my English classes in high school and when studying for my GED writing test a long time ago, periods and commas always come before the closing quotation mark, whereas with other symbols, such as question and exclamation marks, it depends on whether they're part of the quote or not. Cheers! Amaury (talk) 22:02, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I didn't like it at first, but I'm actually starting to like the italics for guest stars/notes now. Also, that quoting style is specific to American English, I think – the one Wikipedia uses is more logical. As for find and replace, you can also do that in the wiki editor, it's the rightmost icon under the "Advanced" tab. ;) nyuszika7h (talk) 22:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for making the lead consistent with the main article, it finally contains the info about season 2 being the last. I haven't been paying so much attention to the main article, so I only found out about the bad news a few days ago when another site announced the spin-off. nyuszika7h (talk) 10:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: In my opinion, it's not really "bad news," per se. Both Lab Rats and Mighty Med are popular series, especially after the crossover, so they're making the two shows even better. Lab Rats is already on its fourth season, so it makes sense that it's ending. When it comes to Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, and Disney XD, popular shows usually span four seasons, while other shows usually span three seasons. There are breaks in the pattern sometimes, obviously, such as was the case with The Haunted Hathaways and Phil of the Future. Anyway, going by the title of the upcoming season two episode of Mighty Med, which I presume is the final episode, at least we won't be left with a cliffhanger because it was planned that way, unlike shows like The Amanda Show, where we never even found out what happened with Moody. Amaury (talk) 14:58, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is I don't really have any legitimate means to watch the episodes without waiting for the dub (Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and TV series on iTunes/Google Play aren't available in Hungary yet), and I haven't found subtitles for the second season of Lab Rats elsewhere (interestingly, there are subtitles for seasons 1, 3 and 4), so I have to wait for the dub and watch it on the local Disney Channel, which hasn't finished season 2 yet (last aired 2x18, and aired 2x23 out of order, so 6 episodes left). nyuszika7h (talk) 15:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: That sucks, haha! Amaury (talk) 15:47, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like they will be airing 4 new episodes in October here. :) That only leaves the last two episodes. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: Thanks for getting the guest stars. I've yet to watch the finale, though it's on our DVR. We had to bury our dog that night. Amaury (talk) 19:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- That mention somehow got lost, I didn't get a notification. It happens sometimes, not sure why. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:54, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, I see what happened there. You typoed my username then corrected it. Mentions don't work unless the edit adds a new signature, per {{Reply to}}'s documentation. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:59, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- That mention somehow got lost, I didn't get a notification. It happens sometimes, not sure why. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:54, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: Thanks for getting the guest stars. I've yet to watch the finale, though it's on our DVR. We had to bury our dog that night. Amaury (talk) 19:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like they will be airing 4 new episodes in October here. :) That only leaves the last two episodes. nyuszika7h (talk) 16:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: That sucks, haha! Amaury (talk) 15:47, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- The problem is I don't really have any legitimate means to watch the episodes without waiting for the dub (Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and TV series on iTunes/Google Play aren't available in Hungary yet), and I haven't found subtitles for the second season of Lab Rats elsewhere (interestingly, there are subtitles for seasons 1, 3 and 4), so I have to wait for the dub and watch it on the local Disney Channel, which hasn't finished season 2 yet (last aired 2x18, and aired 2x23 out of order, so 6 episodes left). nyuszika7h (talk) 15:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
i think you accidentally deleted my message: [1] Headtransplant (talk) 04:08, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
The viewer count of the first episode on Game Shakers, is not true. It's only Nickelodeon. But it broadcasted on Nick, TeenNick AND NickToons, what brings the total on 2.385 million viewers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.214.57.56 (talk) 19:22, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- @94.214.57.56: Correct, because Nickelodeon is its home channel and the channel the series premiered on and new episodes will premiere on, and that's what we go by—the views it garnered on Nickelodeon—so yes, it's correct. TeenNick and Nicktoons show reruns of shows after they have aired on Nickelodeon.
- Geraldo Perez can probably shed some more light on this, as I know he commented on this elsewhere not too long ago. Amaury (talk) 19:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Viewers are generally given for the first airing on the original channel. Reruns, even if the same day, are not included in the total. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- But what if the episode is simulcasted at the same time as the original channel? Gatordragon (talk) 21:21, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Gatordragon: I just left you a message on your talk page regarding that. :) Amaury (talk) 21:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- But what if the episode is simulcasted at the same time as the original channel? Gatordragon (talk) 21:21, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Viewers are generally given for the first airing on the original channel. Reruns, even if the same day, are not included in the total. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
You could have just requested a page protection for the List of Zoey 101 episodes article instead of getting me punish right off the bat... JoesphBarbaro (talk) 17:18, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- @JoesphBarbaro: It's not done to punish, it's done to prevent further disruption. Requesting a page protection would have also gotten you blocked, as the administrators look at the history of the article. They don't just blindly protect articles. You knew you were edit warring and yet you continued to insist on your edits because you likely thought you owned the article without even attempting to reach a consensus on the talk page. When other editors confronted you about it or disagreed with your opinions, you got extremely hostile and resorted to making personal attacks. Amaury (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Where are you getting all of that nonsense from? I wasn't being "extremely hostile" and resorted to "personal attacks", nor have I had the "owning an article" mentality. This is why I had called you arrogant. Don't resort to making such claims about someone like that. Get your facts right before jumping to conclusions. All other articles such as Danny Phantom, The Fairly OddParents, Teenage Robot, True Jackson VP, Ned's Declassified, etc have 2-part episodes (regardless that they all aired as a single hour episode length unit or so). But you didn't revert none of them. You only reverted Zoey 101 and I wanted to know why you didn't revert all the other aforementioned articles that specifically state they have 2-part episodes (regardless if it was aired as an hour-long one or so). That's what I've been trying to tell you. So stop acting oblivious and pay more attention and listen to me very carefully next time. If you and everyone else are gonna continue taking my comments as "hostile" and blah blah blah, then you must have something else coming to you then. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- @JoesphBarbaro: We've tried explaining it to you multiple times, but you refuse to listen. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because other articles do it that way doesn't set precedence over other articles, especially if those other articles are wrong—in fact, those other articles should be fixed, which takes time, and not everyone has all the free time in the world. As mentioned, production codes essentially mean nothing and are just for internal purposes. What matters is the finished product, and you can know what it is by looking on Amazon or iTunes the day after an episode airs. If it's one episode that's double the length of a normal episode, it'll be listed as around 45 minutes. If it's two episodes, there will be two separate listings with runtime being about 25 minutes, usually with some form of Part 1 and Part 2. Another way to remember is that one set of credits equals one episode. As for your behavior, as I'm not the only one who's raised concerns about it, yes, you do have behavior problems, particularly in civility, and a lot of it comes across as hostility and personal attacks. Even your response above comes across as very heated—when having a discussion it's important to remain calm. Looking at your contributions, I see this is a pattern of yours, and it's not even exclusive to Zoey 101. It's not welcome here, and I suggest you change it or you'll find yourself indefinitely blocked. Additionally, when you repeatedly insist on your edits after being repeatedly reverted, you are trying to own the article. You might not realize you are, but you are. Amaury (talk) 22:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Wow, I didn't realize you were a voice of reason. You're not an admin, pal. Stop crying over every little word I say and move on with your life. You don't tell me what I can or can't do. If you cannot do simple things, then I have a bridge to sell you. This is not la la land. I have my disagreements, just like you have your disagreements. I'm sticking to my own statements and nothing more. Deal with it and get over it already. No need to cry about every little word that you take as "hostile" and blah blah blah. My contributions are none of your business as you are not an admin. Period. There are a ton of things I don't agree with this site's rules and I will indeed solve it on my own via a consensus. In the meantime, you can sit there and pretend as if the other articles are nothing except for the one you rely on. Once again, don't tell me how I should or how I should say things when having a discussion. You have no control over me. You don't rate me and you don't own me. I have my disagreements that I will take up to consensus sooner or later. You don't control my mind and shoes. Stop making a big deal over every little word I say and move on. Big whoop. It's not the end of the world if I don't listen to you. At least I'm not edit warring anymore, am I? So take a seat. You are exaggerating a bit. Like it or not, I will always continue to be apart of this site, and there's no way on hell that I will let you ruin that for me just because you "don't like my tone of voice". You're not my mom/dad. It's my own disagreements and I will stick to them and take it up with consensus. Stick to your own edits and I'll stick to mine. Don't even try getting me banned forever. Don't even try it. Last I checked, you're not on the admin's payroll. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 22:32, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- @JoesphBarbaro: We've tried explaining it to you multiple times, but you refuse to listen. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because other articles do it that way doesn't set precedence over other articles, especially if those other articles are wrong—in fact, those other articles should be fixed, which takes time, and not everyone has all the free time in the world. As mentioned, production codes essentially mean nothing and are just for internal purposes. What matters is the finished product, and you can know what it is by looking on Amazon or iTunes the day after an episode airs. If it's one episode that's double the length of a normal episode, it'll be listed as around 45 minutes. If it's two episodes, there will be two separate listings with runtime being about 25 minutes, usually with some form of Part 1 and Part 2. Another way to remember is that one set of credits equals one episode. As for your behavior, as I'm not the only one who's raised concerns about it, yes, you do have behavior problems, particularly in civility, and a lot of it comes across as hostility and personal attacks. Even your response above comes across as very heated—when having a discussion it's important to remain calm. Looking at your contributions, I see this is a pattern of yours, and it's not even exclusive to Zoey 101. It's not welcome here, and I suggest you change it or you'll find yourself indefinitely blocked. Additionally, when you repeatedly insist on your edits after being repeatedly reverted, you are trying to own the article. You might not realize you are, but you are. Amaury (talk) 22:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Where are you getting all of that nonsense from? I wasn't being "extremely hostile" and resorted to "personal attacks", nor have I had the "owning an article" mentality. This is why I had called you arrogant. Don't resort to making such claims about someone like that. Get your facts right before jumping to conclusions. All other articles such as Danny Phantom, The Fairly OddParents, Teenage Robot, True Jackson VP, Ned's Declassified, etc have 2-part episodes (regardless that they all aired as a single hour episode length unit or so). But you didn't revert none of them. You only reverted Zoey 101 and I wanted to know why you didn't revert all the other aforementioned articles that specifically state they have 2-part episodes (regardless if it was aired as an hour-long one or so). That's what I've been trying to tell you. So stop acting oblivious and pay more attention and listen to me very carefully next time. If you and everyone else are gonna continue taking my comments as "hostile" and blah blah blah, then you must have something else coming to you then. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
I don't think it's considered overlinking to link the cast in the "Cast and characters" section. WP:OVERLINK states: "but if helpful for readers, a link may be repeated in infoboxes, ... and at the first occurrence after the lead.
". I consider the links there helpful – it takes more effort to find the links in the infobox on the right side. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:31, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
I know you put the airdate back in for October 13th on Game Shakers, but I have been finding some strange things. 100 things, Henry Danger have an episode on the 3rd of Oct. But then 100 things has an episode on the 24th, but no HD. Game Shakers has one every week 10, 13, and 24. No other show is airing right now on the 10th or 17th. Witch makes the 13th seem a little odd. It's only GS airing, witch makes it all very strange. I'm still waiting on the futon, but I think something is up with Zapit and not acting right. Just thought I let you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WP Editor 2012 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @WP Editor 2012: Yeah. Only time will tell, but if there's a date from a reliable source, it's usually best to include it. In terms of up-to-date content, Zap2it is generally better. The Futon Critic is still very outdated, and they don't seem to want to update their listings, at least in regard to Nickelodeon/Disney Channel/Disney XD. There are some things that have already aired that aren't even listed on The Futon Critic. Amaury (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- True, will find out soon enough though. But mainly just saying that I think they are wrong, but who knows. Will just have to wait and see. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 17:28, 27 September 2015 (UTC)