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Happy New Year, Another Believer

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@Chris troutman: Thank you! Happy New Year! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:53, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2023 WikiCup!

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2023 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

User:Another Believer/Projects/Video Games

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More GA or FA video games?:).Happy New year! 88.236.107.149 (talk) 16:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't play or know much about video games. Happy New Year! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:14, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh. Ok no problems thanks. 88.236.107.149 (talk) 16:17, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

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@TheManishPanwar: Thanks! Happy New Year! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Improvement

Hi sir, would you please help me to improve my one article.
Draft:Sachidanand Bharti - Wikipedia — MANISH talk 16:32, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Another Believer!

Happy New Year!

Another Believer,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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@Moops Thanks! Happy New Year! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:09, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2023)

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Scarves in the Armenian Quarter, Jerusalem
Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

Scarf

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: Summer Palace of Peter the Great • Central Bosnia

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Categories created during Wiki Loves Pride 2023

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A tag has been placed on Category:Categories created during Wiki Loves Pride 2023 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 01:15, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

@Liz I've added an entry to the category. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:24, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bailey's Taproom

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Bailey's Taproom you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of BuySomeApples -- BuySomeApples (talk) 00:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples Thank you! I look forward to responding to any concerns you may have. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:02, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bluehour

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Bluehour you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of MasterMatt12 -- MasterMatt12 (talk) 22:41, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

@MasterMatt12 Thanks! Looking forward to addressing any concerns you may have. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:53, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bluehour

The article Bluehour you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Bluehour and Talk:Bluehour/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of MasterMatt12 -- MasterMatt12 (talk) 23:41, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Aviv (restaurant) for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Aviv (restaurant) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aviv (restaurant) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Mooonswimmer 18:22, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
(sigh...) ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:09, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Resilient Barnstar
For having to deal with my accusation of paid editing, and dealing with it calmly and appropriately. MasterMatt12(talk) 01:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I wish there were more I could do about the ick factor and the sketchy editor(s) causing me so much frustration, but I appreciate you've shared what you can. I'd appreciate if you would strike or collapse your accusation in the nomination discussion and please let me know if there's anything else you need from me re: Bluehour. For now, take care. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Sorry that all this is happening to you, I don't know why some people just decide to be unkind. I'm reviewing the page now but I also wanted to let you know that not everyone is out to get you. A lot of us appreciate your contributions. BuySomeApples (talk) 09:14, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:03, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
I was stopping by to say the same. Wow! What an awful thing to do (re: [1] and WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Kbabej). S0091 (talk) 15:58, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
@S0091 Thanks. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:42, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).

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What Hells Angels and drag queens can teach us about stigma

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Thought you'd be interested in this as a possl source. The Cambridge Judge Business School website link is just an introduction to the actual paper which should be great for a citation or two. They say "Organisational stigma is better understood through the lens of 'Straight Outta Detroit' and 'RuPaul’s Drag Race', as illustrated by a special issue of the Journal of Management Studies co-edited and co-introduced by Thomas Roulet of Cambridge Judge Business School." ☆ Bri (talk) 03:08, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

BTW that other Seattle editor I told you about and I are among the top 10 editors at List of outlaw motorcycle clubs. So we'll def have stuff to talk about! ☆ Bri (talk) 03:11, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
👍 Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:43, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:43, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2023)

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The start line of the Canberra Marathon in 2006
Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

Canberra Marathon

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: Scarf • Summer Palace of Peter the Great

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Your GA nomination of Bailey's Taproom

The article Bailey's Taproom you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Bailey's Taproom and Talk:Bailey's Taproom/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of BuySomeApples -- BuySomeApples (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bailey's Taproom

The article Bailey's Taproom you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bailey's Taproom for comments about the article, and Talk:Bailey's Taproom/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of BuySomeApples -- BuySomeApples (talk) 07:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
No problem! BuySomeApples (talk) 10:43, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: December 2022

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File:Tusk (Portland, Oregon) logo.png listed for discussion

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This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2023)

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A kiddie ride is a coin-operated amusement ride for young children.
Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

Kiddie ride

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: Canberra Marathon • Scarf

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Your GA nomination of Bluehour

The article Bluehour you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bluehour for comments about the article, and Talk:Bluehour/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of MasterMatt12 -- MasterMatt12 (talk) 18:41, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

@MasterMatt12 Thanks for reviewing and related help. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Asian restaurants in Chicago

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A tag has been placed on Category:Asian restaurants in Chicago indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 02:10, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Another Believer,
As the notice states, Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Please do not untag CSD-tagged pages that you have created. It's kind of bright-line rule but it just incurs a reminder, no punishment unless you are a habitual offender. But seriously, categories that are no longer empty sit in the Empty Category category for just a matter of hours until I or another editor untags them so you don't have to worry about deletion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 17:19, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
@Liz Hi! Sorry if I've done something wrong here. But, in my defense, looking at this version of the page, I don't see "Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself". I see, "If you know of pages which are appropriate for this category, please populate it and remove this notice. See CSD C1." That's why I added an entry to the category, then removed the tag. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:32, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Oh! I see now, you mean the notice on my user talk page. I did not see that before, my bad! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2023)

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Side one of a 1930 brochure for the Ambassador Hotel in San Francisco
Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

Brochure

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: Kiddie ride • Canberra Marathon

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Books & Bytes – Issue 54

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The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
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Notability question

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Hi. You seem to know a lot about restaurants and dining notability, so I wanted to ask you if you think Yardley Inn (an article at afd) is notable. Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Another Believer has over 250 talkpage watchers so you might just get more interaction at this AfD than you expected because of that. That said, I have an opinion from interacting on some of the Portland restaurant AfDs and think I have a feel for how this will go, especially if people following AB attend Yardley Inn debate. Bottom line is that there has been some notability creep around restaruarant articles IMO. You can kiss off all the local media. Stuff like Philadelphia Inquirer will help only if it's a full article about that particular restaurant, and even then with a caveat. There's even been pushback on James Beard awards, Michelin starred reviews, and "best of city" by the city's newspaper of record, so it's an unreasonable uphill battle to demonstrate notability. If the deletion debate gets really involved, WP:SIRS will be applied source-by-source by some eager editor, maybe even in a table format, with "extreme prejudice" even towards something of the stature of The New York Times doing a restaurant review in their own delivery area (this is a real objection I saw in an AfD). See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daily Dozen Doughnut Company and expand the source table for an example. N.b. Zagat is deprecated by name at WP:RESTAURANTREVIEWS section of the criteria. From quick perusal I'd give the odds of survival at less than 50-50 at this point. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11 Thanks for the invite, but I'm not interested in weighing in here. Frankly, I'm exhausted by the shenanigans surrounding restaurant articles lately. A handful of editors have tried to make Wikipedia editing very frustrating for me ever since Draft:Daily Dozen Doughnut Company caused the earth's axis to shift. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Irene Dubois for deletion

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Sorry to hear it

I'm sorry about your dog, AB. Bishonen | tålk 20:22, 28 January 2023 (UTC).

Same. Really sucks to lose a pet. :c Elli (talk | contribs) 20:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
@Bishonen and Elli: Thank you, both. He was a wonderful companion. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
I just saw this and thought I should say something positive, though it's hard to think of what that might be. Life sucks sometimes. Better times ahead for you, I hope. Your friend – ☆ Bri (talk) 03:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2023)

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Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

The Sims (video game)

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: Brochure • Kiddie ride

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Women in Red in February 2023

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Women in Red Feb 2023, Vol 9, Iss 2, Nos 251, 252, 255, 256, 257, 259


Online events:

Tip of the month:

  • Explore Wikipedia for all variations of the woman's name (birth name,
    married name, re-married name, pen name, nickname)

Other ways to participate:

Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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My condolences

Hey, I just wanted to say I'm really sorry to see that Kobe passed away. Sending my condolences and a big hug. Armadillopteryx 00:04, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@Armadillopteryx That's very thoughtful, thank you so much. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2023

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Homosexuality in football month

Not sure if you'd heard about this, I hadn't, but apparently February is LGBT+ football month in the UK. If you wanted article inspiration, maybe that's an area you could direct your attention. I think there's a series on Justin Fashanu that might need an article... Also my prelude to also offer my condolences. Kingsif (talk) 07:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the condolences. I don't edit football entries much, but I might poke around to see if there's anything I can do. You're welcome to identify any article issues or improvements over at WP:WLP2023, if you're interested. Thanks again and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bit House Saloon

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Bit House Saloon you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of SyntheticSystems -- SyntheticSystems (talk) 22:00, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@SyntheticSystems Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:02, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
@Grand'mere Eugene: FYI! :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:03, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

LA Kings Monument image file

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Hello. I hear you’re the original uploader of the image on the LA Kings Monument article. I’ve been wondering if it is possible to use the image on the Los Angeles Kings page, as it states the file can only be used for one article only. But I think it should be used on other Kings related articles as well, not just one. Any answers? Marino13 (talk) 23:22, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@Marino13 The photograph depicts a contemporary work of art, which is copyrighted. Wikipedia can only use images of copyrighted works (such as album and book covers, film screenshots, and sculptures) under fair use. The Wikipedia article about the LA Kings Monument is the most appropriate entry to display an image of the sculpture. While I understand your frustration, rules and rules and you'll have to find other ways to illustrate other Wikipedia entries about the LA Kings. I hope this helps and makes sense! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
I’ll see what I can do. Marino13 (talk) 23:56, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2023)

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Belgian waffles cooked in a Krampouz cast-iron waffle iron, in a Montreal restaurant during the gastronomy competition of the Montreal Highlights Festival
Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

Waffle iron

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: The Sims (video game) • Brochure

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Guild of Copy Editors 2022 Annual Report

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Guild of Copy Editors 2022 Annual Report
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moves to draft

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Hey, AB. I've moved to draft Draft:Blazing Bagels and Draft:Yesler Hillclimb. I am very concerned about your continued inability to assess sources' support of notability when it comes to your local businesses, landmarks, etc. Not everything in Washington and Oregon is notable simply because local sources are covering it. I think you should leave these articles in draft until you've found three sources that support a claim to notability.

And please, please indicate which three to make it easier for others to see what you're using to support the claim. It's not fair to make people look at 15 (or 80, or 100) sources to figure out what you are saying indicates notability. More is not better. We only need three. Please, please don't just keep adding more and more and more bare mentions. It doesn't help. It only makes life harder for other editors. Valereee (talk) 20:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Why are we collapsing this? Valereee (talk) 22:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I very often collapse sections on this page. I mean no offense, truly. I don't really see the point in moving an article like Blazing Bagels to the draft space. If you feel the topic is not notable, then raise your concerns on the talk page, or add a notability or merge tag so others can weigh in. I hear your concerns and I appreciate what you're saying. We clearly have different interpretations of some of Wikipedia's rules and that's ok. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:56, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Why won't you just tell us which three sources convinced you? Why? Valereee (talk) 00:37, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Seattle Coffee Works for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Seattle Coffee Works is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seattle Coffee Works until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Valereee (talk) 00:12, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Please leave me alone. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hello, Another Believer. Thank you for your work on Birthplace of Seattle Monument. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Hello! Thanks for writing this article. I encourage and hope you will write more! Have a good day!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|SunDawn}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 02:39, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Image for The Embrace

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Thanks for making me aware of the correct procedure to include fair-use images. I have now uploaded the image to en.wikipedia rather than wikimedia commons - will this be sufficient to replace the image for The Embrace? Tyxcho (talk) 15:27, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@Tyxcho I'd say so, but you might actually want to ask over at Talk:The Embrace. If we can only display one image of the sculpture, editors may want to discuss which image is most appropriate. Thank you for helping to illustrate Wikipedia! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:37, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Refbombing

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Hello,

I've been seeing several complaints in recent AFDs for articles you have created or support that you are bombing them with low quality references. For example, Seattle Coffee Works has 82 (!) references which is probably 60 more than is needed. This causes undue hardship on editors who are examining these articles in a deletion discussion and I sincerely hope it is not an intentional move on your part as a way of keeping an article. But I've seen editors complain about the number of low quality sources and then gone on to say that you put in even MORE references after they complained about it so I'm not sure what to think.

You are a very experienced editor and article creator and know a good, quality reference that provides SIGCOV from a citation to a listicle or blog. Please use some restraint with your articles and don't include every mention of a company or restaurant in an article, use some discretion and use a lower number of higher quality sources from here on out. Thank you for considering this comment. Liz Read! Talk! 05:50, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: I've been treated horribly on Wikipedia the past few months. I think there are much bigger concerns to address than me adding too many references to an article which has been flagged for deletion. I'm not adding sources to demonstrate notability, I'm just quickly expanding the entry with claims from reliable sources as I'm doing additional research. I didn't know expanding an entry during AfD was problematic. Anyways, I've been hounded and harassed both on-wiki and in real life the past few months so sorry if my patience for some editors' complaints about ref-bombing is limited at the moment. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:57, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Why are you still adding references. I just went through the article culling the many overcites. Stop, please. —¿philoserf? (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
jfc, no matter what I do on Wikipedia, someone complains. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:29, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Perhaps you should take a moment to self-examine that. I do things folks disagree with too. But it isn't "...no matter what I do...". —¿philoserf? (talk) 18:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
@Philoserf Why am I wrong for adding a claim about the sign being compared to Hammering Man? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:32, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Then you misunderstood what I objected to. I objected to adding a second reference to a statement that was already referenced in article already pointed out by numerous editors as overcited. —¿philoserf? (talk) 18:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
OK, then I'll stop adding content altogether. Over it, anyway. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Sorry brother. Worn down? Have a great day whatever you do. —¿philoserf? (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
@Philoserf Thanks! I'll enjoy another urban hike in Seattle. Then, expect edits at Super Bowl LVII halftime show! :p ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:12, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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Hi there! Just popping in because I’ve seen you around and I’ve been glad to see someone from a similar area with the same interests as me on Wikipedia! Cheers! BhamBoi (talk) 21:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@BhamBoi 👍 Like Hello back! Nice to e-meet you, and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:07, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2023)

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Campaign for the Norwegian Centre Party at Nærbø: like its Finnish and Swedish counterparts, the party has a strong focus on decentralisation, rural and agrarian issues. Ideologically, the Centre Party is positioned in the centre on the political spectrum.
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Centrism

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Issue One request

Hi @Another Believer — I noticed that you previously made edits to the Issue One page, and I was wondering if you could take a look at some recent edit requests I made on the Issue One Talk page. I have a COI as I work for Issue One, so I'm hoping an uninvolved editor like yourself could take a look at what I've put together. Thank you! AR at Issue One (talk) 19:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bit House Saloon

The article Bit House Saloon you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bit House Saloon for comments about the article, and Talk:Bit House Saloon/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of SyntheticSystems -- SyntheticSystems (talk) 01:22, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

@Grand'mere Eugene: FYI and congrats! ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for including me in the nomination process! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Created a page for My Dad the Bounty Hunter!

Thought you might be interested since you created the re-direct for it back in January. I liked the series a lot, and have been really enjoying Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur too, and started watching Karma's World (I created the page for it a while back) today, and am really enjoying that too Historyday01 (talk) 13:54, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

@Historyday01 I noticed! I have a habit of creating redirects for shows to programming lists (and redirects of episodes to shows). I'm not familiar with the show but perhaps I'll tune in some time. Keep up the great work here! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! Yeah, its a pretty good show, but I only wish it was longer. Historyday01 (talk) 14:06, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2023)

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Textbook

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Editing news 2023 #1

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  1. The Editing team will finish adding new features to the Talk pages project and deploy it.
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The Editing team is nearly finished with this first phase of the Talk pages project. Nearly all new features are available now in the Beta Feature for Discussion tools.

It will show information about how active a discussion is, such as the date of the most recent comment. There will soon be a new "Add topic" button. You will be able to turn them off at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion. Please tell them what you think.

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An A/B test for Discussion tools on the mobile site has finished. Editors were more successful with Discussion tools. The Editing team is enabling these features for all editors on the mobile site.

New Project: Edit Check

The Editing team is beginning a project to help new editors of Wikipedia. It will help people identify some problems before they click "Publish changes". The first tool will encourage people to add references when they add new content. Please watch that page for more information. You can join a conference call on 3 March 2023 to learn more.

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This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2023)

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Greenland is the world's largest island.
Hello, Another Believer. The article for improvement of the week is:

Island

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Greeting from Calabria and help request for Vincenzo Ferrera and Draft:Dado Coletti

Dearest Jason, Best regards from Calabria, I am writing to greet you and know how you are, I am quite well for now, I have seen your contribution to that disaster that happened on the other side of my region, a wonderful and welcoming region, despite everything and not for some consciences. In any case, my good Jason, I ask for your precious help to resolve once and for all the situation of these two biographies, that of Dado Coletti which has been waiting to be published for months and that of renewing Vincenzo Ferrera. I know you are very active and I was wondering, in my little ignorance if you could help me with the case. While waiting to hear from you, I wish you a bright greeting and a good evening, from little Campora San Giovanni in Calabria. Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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