User talk:Bermicourt/Archive 8

Mendel Pass

After looking at the ngram viewer, I have the strong suspicion Mendel Pass is the most common English name for the pass. What do you think? --Mai-Sachme (talk) 16:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

The ngram viewer is a tool which works based on Google Books, here you can read a bit more about it. Thank you for your message, I'll move the article. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Bayreuth Altstadt–Kulmbach railway

Hallo Bermicourt, du hattest den o.g. Artikel angelegt, an dessen deutscher Version ich mittlerweile weitergeschrieben habe. Mir ist gerade aufgefallen, dass beim englischen Artikel Korrekturbedarf besteht, z.B. ist das Streckenband nicht korrekt (Steinenhausen und Bayernwek branches). Vielleicht magst du dich ja drum kümmern. Falls du mir antwortest, bitte auf meiner Disk in der deutschsprachigen WP. Grüße --Roehrensee (talk) 06:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Gemacht, getan. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

scrapbookpages.com

Please see:

• Wikipedia:RS/N#.22Scrapbookpages.com.22_-_Holocaust_revisionism_website.2C_spammed_in_around_100_articles
• Talk:The_Holocaust#Scrapbookpages.com

and

• WP:ELNO's second reason

for why we can't use scrapbookpages.com for external links. Fifelfoo (talk) 22:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Laufen Hut

Hi. Gerda and I are working on this draft: User:PumpkinSky/Laufen Hut. She said you may want to help. If so great, and feel free to directly edit this draft.PumpkinSky talk 20:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

"Südabbrüche" und "Schrofenflanken" -- any idea what these mean in the sense of mountain geology? See User:PumpkinSky/Fritzerkogel. PumpkinSky talk 02:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Vielen DankPumpkinSky talk 09:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

PS We're planning a double DYK nom for Laufen und Fritzer.PumpkinSky talk 10:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Überkühl! --Bermicourt (talk) 10:43, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Now we're starting User:PumpkinSky/Alpine route and will do a triple nom. Join in the fun! PumpkinSky talk 23:31, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Pls look over "mehrere Mulden auf eine Schulter" in Fritzerkogel (how it was translated), the routes section might need work. And of course more good refs in all these three articles is good. PumpkinSky talk 23:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for improving. Alpine route seems a term limited to the Alps on de, but seems to be used also in other parts of the world, how to cover that? How would I determine if a route from the Laufen Hut to the Fritzerkogel is an "Alpine route"? Or should we say "alpine route"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

next question: where would Fixed rope go? (More to come.) Perhaps answer here, also the question above (route from Laufen Hut), to keep it one place,

Since "Alpine Route" has a strict definition, I wouldn't use it unless it's clear in the German text. The German "Fritzerkogel" article just talk about a steile Route which just means a steep route. We just don't know if it's a designated blue-white-blue Alpine Route. I've added the fixed rope link to the article - they're the wire cables provided as protection. --Bermicourt (talk) 14:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It's in prep 4 as the lead, though without the photo choice I preferrred, eh.PumpkinSky talk 02:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Cool! --Bermicourt (talk) 06:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Bahnzeit for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bahnzeit is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahnzeit until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Whpq (talk) 13:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Go for it. --Bermicourt (talk) 14:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Triple DYK nom

All three are in main space now. Triple nom at DYK under 16 July. Both of you get credit for all three too. Tweaks to article and nom welcome.PumpkinSky talk 01:08, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:DE-BY

Template:DE-BY has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 08:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	German Barnstar of National Merit
	For your superb efforts in translating articles from German into English on wikipedia. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Laufen Hut

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Fritzerkogel

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Alpine route

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help for the above! Now I found your very impressive list. Are you planning to insert the German names also? Perhaps also the closest city? Many a Schloss is NOT a castle (Burg) but a palace, only the Germans don't know. Sometimes the English names on official websites are plain bad translations, see Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland (it's NOT evangelical, they have no idea what evangelical means) or Thomanerchor ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

A problem with Template:BS-daten

Bermicourt,
Please see Template talk:BS-daten#Conversions, Template talk:BS-daten#Per cent vs. Per mil mess and Template talk:BS-daten#Those tables that kept showing up in the wrong spot. Peter Horn User talk 02:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

MOST COOL category!!

I see that you have created a category about Mining traditions. This is excellent! I was wondering, I have created several hundred articles on coal towns in the US, West Virginia, Kentucky and PA, may I add an article to the new category called coal scrip? It is referenced and is very plain. However, it was a tradition in Appalachian coal townsCoal town guy (talk) 15:57, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Shared mining customs

Common Customs? I do not know. However, I can describe a few and ask, is that so in Germany? Example, While coal mining, it is a tragedy whn a miner strikes a petrified wooden stump, they can fall and crush them. We call them kettle bottoms. Question, it was a custom to display the stump in the widowed miners yard. People would then know her husband had died in the mines and they would donote food etc etc to the family, is there something similiar in Germany? Second, did they use coal scrip in Germany?, I believe they did, at least my great grandfather recalled something like it. If you want, take a look at the coal scrip article I created. I have distinguished it from company scrip. I have spent some time in Germany, but not in the minig areas,, sadly I wish I had. His dialect was tough, we were in Bayern at that timeCoal town guy (talk) 16:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Bergregal

Mixed comments:

• missing a translation of Berg
• I wonder if in English the whole thing has to be as "ausführlich" as in German
• I think some copy-editing would be good before nominating, for example "This situation improved only slightly, if the powers of one court were greater that those of the other mountain." is hilarious.
• I understood the history section better after the explanation, perhaps change the order, even if not normal
• For a hook, could it be described as an early Raw Materials Act, first written by Barbarossa? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - all actioned. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For clocking up 50,000 edits and 3000 articles! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Great, awesome Wikipedian of 10 March 2012! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

BibISBN

I investigated Wikipedia:Help desk#BibISBN in reflist not visible about a system I didn't know. Is {{BibISBN}} supposed to work or was the system never completed at the English Wikipedia? de:Template:BibRecord exists but Template:BibRecord does not. Special:PrefixIndex/Template:BibISBN only shows one data set Template:BibISBN/0801857899. {{BibISBN|0801857899}} produces {{BibISBN|0801857899}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Having copied the main template across, I realised a load of sub-templates were needed to make this work. It all looked too difficult for a novice like me at the time! --Bermicourt (talk) 15:01, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

OK. I have added to the documentation that it doesn't work, so editors don't try to use it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Template talk:Infobox German railway vehicle

Bermicourt,
Please see Template talk:Infobox German railway vehicle#Wrong translations. Peter Horn User talk 14:44, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I posted a reply, please give feedback. Peter Horn User talk 20:01, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bergregal

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Frankfurt (Main) Hauptbahnhof

Hello Bermicourt

Hi, please don't revert any more Hauptbahnhof articles unless there has been a[nother] full discussion first. You already know this is controversial and that there are plenty of people on both sides of the debate, so we'll all need patience! Thank you. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:43, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Reverting controversial undiscussed mass moves is the default. However one was enough to make the point about WP:BRD. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:52, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Euthanasia

Can you keep an eye on Euthanasia, please? The discussion on Talk:Euthanasia is going nowhere. I have the feeling (but am not sure) that ArtifexMayhem, Arc de Ciel and KillerChihuahua are bluntly ignoring the facts and the present consensus to force in a POV-text. Strange enough, seeing the history, I have found ClaudioSantos on my side in this case. Some more eyes/opinions are needed to avoid the now looming editwar. The Banner _talk 17:40, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Longfleet

Hi, thanks for asking for my comments iro DYK. The article is long enough to satisfy that rule. Referencing is mainly OK but I would combine some of those short paragraphs. The hook's OK, although I would tighten it to "... the steeple of St Mary's Church, Longfleet is one of Poole's most important landmarks?" But you must include this wording (or something near to it) more specifically within the article, and there must be a citation at the end of the sentence containing the hook; it's one of the rules, and must be obeyed, even if it means duplication of citations. By the way, it's Grade II, not Grade 2. And if you want to expand the article, there's lots of material about the architecture of the building in the National Heritage List for England. Best wishes, and good luck at DYK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of St Mary's Church, Longfleet

Hello! Your submission of St Mary's Church, Longfleet at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:18, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Von Portugal translation

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for German to English translators and wondered if you could translate and add materials from de:Manuel von Portugal and de:Emilia von Oranien-Nassau to their English articles and create articles for their two children de:Manuel António von Portugal and de:Mauritia Eleonora von Portugal and their spouse de:Johanna von Hanau-Münzenberg and de:Georg Friedrich (Nassau-Siegen). If you can't I will understand. Thank you!--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 23:21, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits to Reutlingen–Schelklingen railway

(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reutlingen%E2%80%93Schelklingen_railway&diff=next&oldid=513863307)

Hi, I am curious why you made these changes.

• The reason why I wrote Signal cabin instead of Signal box is that both link to Signalling control, which says that Signal box is a British English expression, while it doesn't apply any such tag to "Signal cabin". Since en.wikipedia is neither British nor American, this seemed to be the best choice to me. Also, box seems to indicate an elevated box (at least that's my understanding), while the cabin you can see on the picture is located on the platform level.
• I'm not questioning your change of freight car to goods wagon, for the very same reason - I wasn't aware that freight car was a primarily American English term and hadn't bothered to look it up.
• However, the Friends of the Honau-Lichtenstein Rack Railway are a society and are carrying this as part of their name (the e. V., which you can see on top of their homepage, stands for eingetragener Verein, which translates to registered society. It's the same with Swabian Jura Railway Society and Friends of the Railbus Society, Ulm - Ulmer Spatz (where you didn't remove the Society part from the names).

-- 188.105.118.43 (talk) 08:50, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your queries. I'll answer them separately:

• According to Jackson's Railway Dictionary, "signal cabin" is a "term used by some railways (e.g. Great Central Railway) as an alternative to the more usual signal box." Ellis' Encyclopaedia and the thesaurus of the International Union of Railways only have the term "signal box". However, I could live with "cabin" for the reasons you suggest. Just not sure how widespread the usage is and whether others would understand what you meant by it.
• "Goods wagon" is the UIC term which Germany has signed up to.
• I didn't delete "Society" because it was incorrect, just felt it was superfluous. We often refer to organisations by a shortened form e.g. Borussia Mönchengladbach for Borussia Vfl 1900 e.V. Mönchengladbach. Again, I'm not hard over on this. Put "Society" back in if you wish.

Hope that helps. By the way, have you considered registering on Wikipedia? You get increased privileges if you do. --Bermicourt (talk) 11:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Here's my reply:

• Since the link points to a page explaining it, finding out what it means is as easy as clicking on the term. I guess if somebody managed to locate the article, figuring this out isn't too hard. ;-)
• Nothing to dispute here. ;-)
• The thing is, there are four societies listed, all bearing the term Society in their names. If you don't like the term, fine - but then we should delete it on all four and not only one. Make up your mind, I can live with either choice. :-)

-- 188.105.118.43 (talk) 16:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Re point 3. The others don't really work if you delete "Society", so if you want conformity, it should be re-inserted. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for St Mary's Church, Longfleet

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Barbarossa Cave

Hello, Barbarossa's Table and Chair is not a cave formation (see photo). --Nordelch (talk) 07:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:50, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

All Saints' Flood (1304)

Thanks for contributing the new article All Saints' Flood (1304). However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that material must be verifiable, by being clearly attributed to reliable sources. Please help by adding more sources to the article you created, and/or by clarifying how the sources already given support the material (see here for how to do inline referencing). Many thanks! PS If you need any help, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or ask at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, or just ask me.

212.14.56.38 (talk) 08:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:00, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Discussion on Template:Infobox Bahnhof

Please note discussion on merging Template:Infobox Bahnhof at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion. This might make some sense if anybody was proposing to do the work to make it work.--Grahame (talk) 03:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Central station

As IIO watches my talk page, messages there can backfire. Kauffner (talk) 16:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox State of the German Reich

Template:Infobox State of the German Reich has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree we don't need this template. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Rundling

Hi Bermicourt, I have just done an extensive revision of the English stub on RUNDLINGE. I have never done a Wikipedia entry before so would be grateful for any help and advice in getting the entry right. I am however (probably) the best expert on Rundling villages in the English language, having lived in one for many years, and being on the committee which is pushing forward the local bid for World Heritage Status. The German version of my English text is now the main text on the website for the Rundlingsverein, although it is designed for the German market and is set out slightly differently. It has been extensively reviewed by local experts, so the content is pretty accurate. Any help is greatly appreciated! agwendland Agwendland (talk) 20:09, 14 December 2012 (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bermicourt&action=edit#

Wonderful - a really interesting expansion. I've done an initial very quick tidy up to "wikify" one or two areas, but will have a closer look when I have more time and will add links. It's important that information on Wikipedia is a) referenced, b) not copied word for word from copyright material and c) not original work. You are best placed to judge that and to add relevant references. Welcome to Wikipedia and keep up the good work. --Bermicourt (talk) 21:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Magdalenengarten

Dear Bermicourt, I wrote an English article on Magdalenengarten, a baroque park in Hildesheim. Please correct it if you have time. Thanks a lot. Merry Xmas,--Torbenbrinker (talk) 16:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Two-thousander

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Proposed deletion of Three-thousander

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Eight-thousander and East Antarctic two-thousanders

Are you aware of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Antarctic two-thousanders and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eight-thousander? --Bduke (Discussion) 07:57, 3 January 2013 (UTC)