User talk:DannyS712/Archive 1

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3 → Archive 5

Welcome

Hello, DannyS712, and welcome to Wikipedia!

Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask at the help desk, or place {{Help me}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 10:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Getting started
Finding your way around
Editing articles
Getting help
How you can help

@DRAGON BOOSTER: Thank you so much for the warm welcome DannyS712 (talk) 19:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Hello DannyS712 and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your counter-vandalism work recently. When you become autoconfirmed, you may try out Twinkle, a great tool for dealing with vandalism and maintenance work. When you revert vandalism anywhere, you may warn the user by using proper templates in Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. If you have any questions, you may ask on my talk page, at the Teahouse or help desk. Regards —AE (talk • contributions) 07:27, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

A summary of some important site policies and guidelines

—AE (talk • contributions) 12:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Thanks! DannyS712 (talk) 12:14, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, DannyS712. You have new messages at Talk:American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
Message added 09:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

— Newslinger talk 09:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Unblock

This blocked user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request.
DannyS712 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
DannyS712 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Block message:

Autoblockedbecause your IP address was recently used by "Official BS". The reason given for Official BS's block is: CheckUser evidence has determined that this user account has been or may be used abusively. It has been blockedindefinitely to prevent abuse.

Decline reason: Autoblock is working as designed. You did create that account, after all. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 02:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

פיטר מלץ

כדובר עברית תוכל לקרוא את המאמר בעברית ואני מקווה שתסיר את ההתנגדות ששמת לתרגום לאנגלית. --Yoavd (talk) 06:12, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Ways to improve List of TeX extensions

Hi, I'm Meatsgains. DannyS712, thanks for creating List of TeX extensions!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Consider providing reliable sources to strengthen the page's verifiability.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Meatsgains(talk) 01:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Article Maria Marshall

Hello @DannyS712:, I linked the article for it not to be anymore orphan and removed your tag. All my very best, Philipe49730--Philippe49730 (talk) 17:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

@Philippe49730: thank you for your work, and for you prompt response. However, may I suggest that in the future, you remember to include an edit summary with your dif? If you want any help, feel free to reach out. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Special Counsel investigation navbox

Greetings DannyS712! I have expanded the navbox you created for {{Special Counsel investigation (2017–present)}}, and included it in all relevant articles. Hope this helps. Thanks for your work. — JFG talk 11:18, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

@JFG: thank you so much! I wasn't sure if I should put it on all of the pages, so I only put it on the core ones (main page, timelines, reactions, legal teams). Thanks for the help. I'll try to keep it updated as the investigation progresses, but any future help will be welcome. --DannyS712 (talk) 15:16, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to WP:STiki!

Hello, DannyS712, and welcome to STiki! Thank you for your recent contributions using our tool. We at STiki hope you like using the tool and decide to continue using it in the future. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Here are some pages which are a little more fun:

  • The STiki leaderboard - See how you are faring against other STiki users!
  • Userboxes - Do not hesitate to wear the STiki label with pride by choosing from a selection of userboxes!

We hope you enjoy maintaining Wikipedia with STiki! If you have any questions, problems, or suggestions don't hesitate to drop a note over at the STiki talk page and we'll be more than happy to help. Again, welcome, and thanks! West.andrew.g (developer) and Orphan Wiki 08:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Note: Having a username change after you start using STiki will reset your classification count. Please let us know about such changes on the talk page page to avoid confusion in issuing milestone awards. You can also request for your previous STiki contributions to be reassigned to your new account name.
Orphan Wiki 08:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Julius Scherzer has been accepted

Julius Scherzer, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

―Abelmoschus Esculentus 02:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

User talk:155.93.255.174

Hi Danny! You may just leave a standard level 1 vandalism template. Thanks ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 09:24, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Thanks for the feedback. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:27, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

CVUA

I will try to get to it tonight. From this point, what I help you with is really up to you. By that, I mean you can decide what field/type of anti-vandalism you want to focus on. Any thoughts? Vermont (talk) 18:12, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@Vermont: I'd like to get to the point where I would pass requirements for rollback rights, to more easily combat vandalism. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:13, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Alright. We’ll start with normal RecentChanges, manually. I will try to make an instructional video of sorts tomorrow, which should help efficiency in anti-vandalism patrolling. I also do cross-wiki anti-vandalism, so if you’re interested in that we can talk about it once this CVUA course is finished. Have you considered using IRC? Vermont (talk) 18:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
@Vermont: I'd prefer not to use it. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
I'll go over your responses later today. Vermont (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Good ANEW report, by the way. Vermont (talk) 19:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Why was the previous edit not accepted?

Why have you not included most of Jennifer Winget's awards she's won through out the years. It simply means we are not including half of her acheivements on her page which is sheer injustice to her talent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adising (talk • contribs) 09:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

@Adising: It was not, and with your newer edit request still is not, clear what you are adding and what your sources are. If you need help with formatting the table, feel free to ask for help, or try using the visual editor. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Your G13 tags

Hi DannyS712, WP:G13 speedy deletion does not apply to pages in the User namespace unless they have a {{AfC submission}} template on them. Many of your recent G13 tags are invalid for this reason. Do you think you could help in reverting your recent tags? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 20:57, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mz7: Sorry, I didn't realize. Is there another tag for userspace drafts that are not AFC submissions but have likewise not been edited for a while? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately, my understanding is that the current community consensus is that these drafts should not be speedily deleted, no matter how old they get. If there is a compelling reason to delete beyond just abandonment, I'm afraid WP:MFD is the only real option. I think it might be worthwhile to start a discussion at WP:VPP or someplace like that about what to do with these old drafts in the near future. Mz7 (talk) 21:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7: Would PROD apply? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:11, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
No, PROD only applies to articles in the mainspace and files. Incidentally, the first draft I looked at, User:Bbridgens/Kindred (novel 2010), I actually deleted per WP:G11 because it was clearly trying to advertise a book on Amazon. Mz7 (talk) 21:13, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mz7:  Done I think? Thanks for the help. Sorry for messing up. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:27, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Solid, thank you for your help! Mz7 (talk) 21:29, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Guayas (chief)

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Guayas (chief), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: a chief of a civilization that existed more than 400 years ago is certainly sufficiently significant to pass A7. Thank you. SoWhy 12:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Push Up Records

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Push Up Records, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Being part of a notable entity indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI#CORP, WP:CCSI#ORG). Thank you. SoWhy 12:42, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Graph for the List of countries by GDP (nominal) section

Sadly I can't upload the file through the Upload Wizard because my account is not confirmed yet (I have less than 10 edits on it). Do I need to check an option to give you permission to use my file, or is a simple written confirmation enough? If so, then, of course, you can use this file as you wish. Thank you for answering me and have a nice evening. Nobody2017 (talk) 21:11, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

@Nobody2017: I can upload it for you, but I just want to make sure you understand that you are okay with me selecting the option labeled "This file was given to me by its owner" and that you agree to the statement: "The copyright owner of this file has given it to me for uploading on Wikipedia. I can provide evidence that they have agreed to release it under a free license, for free use by anybody and for any purpose." --DannyS712 (talk) 22:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
@DannyS712: Ahah YES I agree with all of this, go ahead! Nobody2017 (talk) 08:46, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
@Nobody2017:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 17:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi DannyS712. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! TheSandDoctor Talk 22:37, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: thanks! I'll test it out at Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Deleting/delete. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome! If you have any questions, please do let me know. --TheSandDoctor Talk 00:30, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
@TheSandDoctor: will do! Thanks for being so responsive. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
I just happened to be online at the time and checking PERM/RB . Have fun! --TheSandDoctor Talk 00:32, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Bad Bad Hats

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Bad Bad Hats, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: They are real band which releases on a label with a Wikipedia article. Coverage in Rolling Stone and Pitchfork (website) indicates they might pass WP:BAND at an WP:AFD discussion. Apologies for this appearing in blodface, that's just how the script formats a speedy decline. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 08:43, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the Avigdor Lieberman edit

I means a lot. I also apologize for an earlier edit I made, as I thought you were David Johnson. He made a typo in his edit to the Lieberman page.68.47.64.121 (talk) 20:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

No problem. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, DannyS712. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, DannyS712. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Tuskegee syphilis experiment

My edit to Tuskegee syphilis experiment was simply correcting the name of the link. The link goes to the page Unethical human experimentation in the United States. The judgement of whether this experiment was ethical is made in the title of that page and the inclusion of the link on the Tuskegee syphilis experiment page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.203.125.56 (talk) 06:17, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

@14.203.125.56: you were right. I shouldn't have reverted you. --DannyS712 (talk) 06:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: SunPy

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of SunPy, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 cannot be applied to software. Thank you. SoWhy 11:08, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Estadio Los Manantiales

Hello DannyS712, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Estadio Los Manantiales, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 cannot be applied to towns or places. If you are interested in learning more about how speedy deletion works, I have compiled a list of helpful pages at User:SoWhy/SDA. You can of course also contact me if you have questions. Thank you. SoWhy 11:10, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: European Network of Councils for the Judiciary

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of European Network of Councils for the Judiciary, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: was co-established by a notable person (Susan Denham), quite a few hits on GNews as well. Use WP:AFD instead if necessary. Thank you. SoWhy 11:15, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Imbellus

Please contact me about your deletion of this article. Keith Henson (talk) 18:10, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

You left a msg "If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator."
I am attempting to do that. Keith Henson (talk) 16:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
@Hkhenson:I only requested that the page be deleted. The deleting administrator was GB fan. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Stale

Was it too late? I thought as much, but I decided to try. It doesn't matter--I hope our readers enjoy the article anyway!Zigzig20s (talk) 10:26, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: yes, it was. Sorry. Also, you commented here while I was posting on your talk page, lol. --DannyS712 (talk) 10:27, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for InSight

On 27 November 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article InSight, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 01:32, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Take part in a survey

Hi DannyS712

We're working to measure the value of Wikipedia in economic terms. We want to ask you some questions about how you value being able to edit Wikipedia.

Our survey should take about 10-15 minutes of your time. We hope that you will enjoy it and find the questions interesting. All answers will be kept strictly confidential and will be anonymized before the aggregate results are published. Regretfully, we can only accept responses from people who live in the US due to restrictions in our grant-based funding.

As a reward for your participation, we will randomly pick 1 out of every 5 participants and give them $25 worth of goods of their choice from the Wikipedia store (e.g. Wikipedia themed t-shirts). Note that we can only reward you if you are based in the US.

Click here to access the survey: https://mit.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eXJcEhLKioNHuJv

Thanks

Avi

Researcher, MIT Initiative on the Digital Economy --Avi gan (talk) 02:40, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

@Avi gan:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 03:12, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Inappropriate close

This close at ITN was inappropriate and I've undone it. [1]. A discussion where most editors voted to Wait is certainly not resolved and it is too soon for a "no consensus to post" close - discussions at ITN are posted for the day the event happened, they are not posted again later when there have been more developments. Seraphim System (talk) 18:19, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry I undid it without asking you first, but I edit conflicted as I was posting my support rationale. Seraphim System (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Seraphim System: thanks for the explanation. Sorry for the inappropriate close, I won't do so again. --DannyS712 (talk) 18:21, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Np, it hasn't even been 24 hours so I was waiting to see what others said before posting my own support rationale. It looks like the impact of damage is going to be downplayed, based on the tone of today's coverage, we may not receive more details about how it has impacted the effect families, but I would like to leave it open to see how things develop. Seraphim System (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
@Seraphim System: you probably should have mentioned that you were the nominator for that ITN item. It's all water under the bridge now, and I won't try to close it a second time, but you support was expected as the nominator, and I took that into account. When I said that it could be posted later, I meant that it could be reopened if it was not stale by the time that damage and casualty figures were released. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:56, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok, but nominators may want to explain their support at some point in the discussion, which I was about to do when I found the discussion has closed. Anyway, it's not a big deal, but imo a discussion should be open at least 24 hours before it's closed (and at ITN usually longer). Seraphim System (talk) 20:00, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Script

Hi Danny. I made a script here which can tag or untag pages. You may try it out. Thanks ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 10:39, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: thanks! I'll test it out when I have time. --DannyS712 test (talk) 20:40, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot (12/2/18)

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Tagged with…
3,823 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: B Houston Texans (talk) Add sources
3,450 Quality: High, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: GA Sinéad O'Connor (talk) Add sources
1,727 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Constituent Assembly of India (talk) Add sources
51 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: C Nuclear Waste Policy Act (talk) Add sources
32 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: C Nuclear entombment (talk) Add sources
11 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Henry George Farmer (talk) Add sources
84 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Man overboard (talk) Cleanup
455 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Spanish language in the United States (talk) Cleanup
1,216 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Electric guitar (talk) Cleanup
471 Quality: High, Assessed class: GA, Predicted class: B Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository (talk) Expand
84 Quality: High, Assessed class: GA, Predicted class: B High-level radioactive waste management (talk) Expand
24 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Philadelphia Parking Authority (talk) Expand
36 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: FA History of the Irish Americans in Philadelphia (talk) Unencyclopaedic
1,826 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: B Bass guitar (talk) Unencyclopaedic
16 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Mindi Messmer (talk) Unencyclopaedic
10 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start New Market and Head House (talk) Merge
489 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: C Basic structure doctrine (talk) Merge
755 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Samajwadi Party (talk) Merge
10 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Maxey Flat (talk) Wikify
128 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: C Galactic (talk) Wikify
414 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Castile and León (talk) Wikify
59 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Far Lands or Bust (talk) Orphan
5 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Gyeongju nuclear waste disposal facility (talk) Orphan
3 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Fran Pineda (talk) Orphan
11 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Philadelphia Municipal Court (talk) Stub
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Accidents to the Taxes!! (talk) Stub
14 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Philadelphia Housing Authority (talk) Stub
25 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Philly Pops (talk) Stub
27 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Pat Olivieri (talk) Stub
8 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub CFGN (talk) Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot (talk) 23:31, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

December 2018 GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors December 2018 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the December 2018 GOCE newsletter. Here is what's been happening since the August edition.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the August blitz (results), which focused on Requests and the oldest backlog month. Of the twenty editors who signed up, eleven editors recorded 37 copy edits.

For the September drive (results), of the twenty-three people who signed up, nineteen editors completed 294 copy edits.

Our October blitz (results) focused on Requests, geography, and food and drink articles. Of the fourteen people who signed up, eleven recorded a total of 57 copy edits.

For the November drive (results), twenty-two people signed up, and eighteen editors recorded 273 copy edits. This helped to bring the backlog to a six-month low of 825 articles.

The December blitz will run for one week, from 16 to 22 December. Sign up now!

Elections: Nominations for the Guild's coordinators for the first half of 2019 will be open from 1 to 15 December. Voting will then take place and the election will close on 31 December at 23:59 UTC. Positions for Guild coordinators, who perform the important behind-the-scenes tasks that keep our project running smoothly, are open to all Wikipedians in good standing. We welcome self-nominations, so please consider nominating yourself if you've ever thought about helping out; it's your Guild and it doesn't run itself!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators; Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk.

>>> Sign up for the December blitz! <<<
>>> Participate in the Coordinator elections! <<<
To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

G13

I appreciate your interest in working on the WP:ABANDONED project. WP:G13 does not apply to random abandoned userspace pages. They have to be be submitted to AfC. I wouod like it to apply, I think it should apply, but that is not current reality. There are other ways like WP:U5 and WP:G11 to action most of these pages. Legacypac (talk) 23:44, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@Legacypac: How could I propose that it apply to these random abandoned userspace pages. Since they aren't officially AfC, maybe pages created with the "Article Wizard" that haven't been edited in a year? Maybe a prod-like system to give the author time to respond? Idk, I'm just trying to help --DannyS712 (talk) 23:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't think we need to go through the pain of an expanding G13 debate when we have other tools. I've improved the guidemce on how to process the drafts. If G11 or G12 or attack or hoax use those. If if was copied to mainspace or topic exists just redirect. If ready for mainspace move it or submit to AfC. If useful, plausibly notable topic consider moving it to Draft space for others to discover (use edit summary to say why the move). If in Draft for 6 months unedited it will get swept away G13 but we gave the page a chance. Every single abandoned user draft page can be handled via one of these strategies. Love the help, been doing those for years and it is a huge job. Sometimes I find a good topic which makes it worth it, and a lot of spam is killed in the process. Legacypac (talk) 23:54, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@Legacypac: so for abandoned pages, I can just move them to drafts without talking to the owner? Or, I can just submit them to AfC? --DannyS712 (talk) 23:55, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, with caution. If you can CSD them do it now. Only move or AfC submit decent topics, and only AfC submit ones that look ready for mainspace as we don't want to stuff up AfC with extra crap. We are generally dealing with creators (never owners) who are inactive so talking to them is pointless. I do like to check the editors controbution to make sure they are inactive first. We all release our contributions for use by anyone for any purpose. Legacypac (talk) 00:00, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
@Legacypac: so for topics that are not decent enough for AfC or draft space, what should I do? Nothing? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
If you can't redirect or CSD consider using MfD. You can also just blank useless crap that is not worth having an MfD over. Legacypac (talk) 00:03, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for December 4

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Uniform Power of Attorney Act, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Agency (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.)

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:16, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Helped clean up some vandalism :) SoVeryGrim (talk) 19:03, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

forbes 2018

Vijay(actor) article no.26 indian actor 2018 salary http://www.forbesindia.com/lists/2018-celebrity-100/1735/3 try this in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.5.222 (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

What? Can you please explain this? --DannyS712 (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Uthongathi F.C.

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Uthongathi F.C., a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Playing in a notable league indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI#TEAM). Thank you. SoWhy 09:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Zalan FC

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Zalan FC, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Playing in a notable league indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI#TEAM). Thank you. SoWhy 09:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot (12/10/18)

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Tagged with…
128 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C National Endowment for Democracy (talk) Add sources
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start The Vermont Cynic (talk) Add sources
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub Rubenstein School of Environment and Natural Resources (talk) Add sources
819 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Orlando Pirates (talk) Add sources
4 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Gund Institute for Ecological Economics (talk) Add sources
1,117 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA Varicose veins (talk) Add sources
37 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C University of Vermont Medical Center (talk) Cleanup
570 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Basic life support (talk) Cleanup
99 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Interstate 89 (talk) Cleanup
348 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Battery cage (talk) Expand
167 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C South Burlington, Vermont (talk) Expand
3,642 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: B Indian Space Research Organisation (talk) Expand
1,465 Quality: High, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: GA Powers of the President of the United States (talk) Unencyclopaedic
2,210 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: C Finance (talk) Unencyclopaedic
130 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Complex society (talk) Unencyclopaedic
15 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C U.S. Route 7 in Vermont (talk) Merge
34 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C U.S. Route 7 (talk) Merge
265 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Algorithmic efficiency (talk) Merge
58 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA Newport (city), Vermont (talk) Wikify
6 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Mohawk Mining Company (talk) Wikify
1,021 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: B Constructivism (philosophy of education) (talk) Wikify
2 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Voices-Voix (talk) Orphan
5 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start The Media Image (talk) Orphan
3 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start The Vanished Path (talk) Orphan
7 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Michaela Pejzlová (talk) Stub
7 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Neil Worden (talk) Stub
10 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Ebert Van Buren (talk) Stub
17,095 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Mirzapur (TV series) (talk) Stub
66 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Duaa (serial) (talk) Stub
5 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Randy Beisler (talk) Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot (talk) 11:43, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alabama v. North Carolina

Hello! Your submission of Alabama v. North Carolina at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Go Mishima

Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Reem Kassis

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Reem Kassis, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Coverage of her work in multiple national newspapers in different countries is enough to pass A7. Take to AfD if you still think it should be deleted. Thank you. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Revising proposed deletion of Transport in Rajahmundry

Hi, I've added some information and references to the article, can you please review it again.--IM3847 (talk) 03:13, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

@IM3847:  Done I have de-prodded the article, it looks much better now and my problems with it have been dealt with. Nice job --DannyS712 (talk) 03:15, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Cardinal Pell has been convicted

Please include the edit. It admit my edit request was based on the front of the article rather than the edit section.68.47.64.121 (talk) 17:38, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Please include a reliable source, and make it clear what your edit is (eg XXX to YYY). In this case, it would be: Please add "has been convicted" to ____ Source: ??? --DannyS712 (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alabama v. North Carolina

Hello! Your submission of Alabama v. North Carolina at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:01, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Please see new notes on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 23:41, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Sharmeen Khan

Hey prick why did you revert my edit and start spouting on about living people? The thing I edited on is dead you idiot. Wikipedia has a cheek to beg for money if you can't edit what you want — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:140C:32B0:1:1:8EA5:64F8 (talk) 08:42, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Please see WP:BLP (the relevant policy) which says that Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased). The source given in the article for Khan's death says that "Sharmeen breathed her last after battling with pneumonia", meaning that she was not, in fact, killed by a suicide bombed. If you believe that she was, please provide a reliable source that says so. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:48, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Dennis Ritchie

Re your edit summary at Dennis Ritchie, reverting a copyvio is an exemption at WP:3RRNO. I would use an edit summary referring to removal of copyvio. However, it might be safer to drop the matter (make no more reverts) because the material obviously will be removed in due course. I asked for protection of the article at WP:RFPP although that can take a while to occur. Johnuniq (talk) 09:40, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: thanks! --DannyS712 (talk) 05:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

New page reviewer rights granted

Howdy, I've granted you the "New page reviewer" rights you have requested. Please act admirably with your new rights and let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Nakon 05:38, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@Nakon: thanks! Will do --DannyS712 (talk) 05:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nakon: A couple questions. I (think I) just patrolled my first page, North Atlantic Council Fifth Session! Can you check this was right? Also, I went to my log, and it doesn't list any patrolled pages. Did I do something wrong? --DannyS712 (talk) 06:05, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Cyclone Ada

Following your nomination of this storm at TFAR, I listed this to run as TFA on January 17, but I'm now deferring it because the main editor, Juliancolton has pointed out that January 2020 is the 50th anniversary of the storm, and it would be more appropriate to run it then.

Please note that the TFAR instructions say Editors who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article before nominating it for TFAR.. That doesn't appear to have happened in this instance, thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:52, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: Sorry, I didn't see that note. I'll do due diligence in the future. Thanks for pointing it out. --DannyS712 (talk) 10:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Evertech Sandbox, DannyS712.

Unfortunately Insertcleverphrasehere has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

If you reviewed this article, please note that PRODed and CSD tagged articles should not be marked as reviewed, per consensus here. That's not necessarily to say that the tag is not applicable, this change is just to help stop things from falling through the cracks. Thanks.

To reply, leave a comment on Insertcleverphrasehere's talk page.

— Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 10:55, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot (12/17/18)

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Tagged with…
9 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub Luukkanen (surname) (talk) Add sources
20 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Battle of Kelja (talk) Add sources
832 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Plant tissue culture (talk) Add sources
24 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Battle of Honkaniemi (talk) Add sources
6 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub Pakkanen (talk) Add sources
113 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Battle of Tolvajärvi (talk) Add sources
13 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Serial offender hunting patterns (talk) Cleanup
1,472 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Good Girls (TV series) (talk) Cleanup
135 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Gary Wilson (musician) (talk) Cleanup
40 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: B Kavirondo (talk) Expand
1,715 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA Greg Daniels (talk) Expand
749 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Tunis (talk) Expand
29 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Hasan as-Senussi (talk) Unencyclopaedic
296 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C UCAS (talk) Unencyclopaedic
18 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Abdelwahab Meddeb (talk) Unencyclopaedic
25 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C The Wall Street Journal Europe (talk) Merge
10 Quality: High, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: GA Anupam Sen (talk) Merge
2,135 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA Matthew Whitaker (attorney) (talk) Merge
126 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start International Standard Link Identifier (talk) Wikify
65 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Semantic interoperability (talk) Wikify
24 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Baba Siddharth Gautam Ram (talk) Wikify
2 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Offender movement (talk) Orphan
4 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Photoautotropic tissue culture (talk) Orphan
3 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: C George A. Killenberg (talk) Orphan
5 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub You Think You Really Know Me: The Gary Wilson Story (talk) Stub
233 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start SNAC (talk) Stub
45 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Battle of Taipale (talk) Stub
8 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Chico Ejiro (talk) Stub
25 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Crime of opportunity (talk) Stub
16 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Eastern Uusimaa (talk) Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted

Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Marquis d'Eguilles

Thanks for the review - I've been away but I've now completed this (more or less) :). Let me know if you have any comments.

Robinvp11 (talk) 16:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

@Robinvp11: no problem. It was really interesting. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Pirahã

I made a sassy change out of rage (whoops) on the Pirahã article, so I thank you for deleting it. However, I am not really good at editing Wikipedia, so I wanted to ask you to make an edit for me. Can you please revert the population estimate? It is currently listed as 800, but I do not find the source credible. It was 360 or 500 when I check the page about a year ago. I cannot find what that more credible source was in the edit history, otherwise I would do it myself. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.245.192.4 (talk) 03:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

The lede includes the sentence As of 2018, they number 800 individuals. with the reference: ""Interview: Wie ein Missionar zum Atheisten wurde". profil.at (in German). 2018-03-27. Retrieved 2018-04-02." Can you explain why this source is not credible? --DannyS712 (talk) 03:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)


While the article may be valid, the number comes only from the man, Dan Everett. He is a controversial figure (as the article should show) who currently has no contact with the Piraha. I do not know where he got his number from, and I do not trust him. I believe an earlier number (420?) came from a government census or something. Rather than from a single man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.245.192.4 (talk) 03:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

If you can provide the source for an alternative number, I can look into it for you. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

That's why I asked you to revert it to the previous number, because we can trust that moreso to be accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.245.192.4 (talk) 19:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Using this source is better than using no source for a different number. Without a contrary source, I can't just change it --DannyS712 (talk) 19:54, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Cool, found it. 592 in 2014. I don't think they had a 200 person population growth in 4 years. https://pib.socioambiental.org/en/Povo:Pirah%C3%A3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.245.192.4 (talk) 06:29, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't have time to investigate all of this (see below) now, but when I can I will. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:05, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
diffs
Hey. I looked through the links and the sources, and while I agree that the 200 person growth sounds high, I also don't know german, so can't see if there is any explanaition for that it the source given. I'm afraid I won't be changing this, but can I suggest bringing this up on the talk page? --DannyS712 (talk) 09:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Huggle 3.4.6

...is out now. You may wish to download the latest version. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 10:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: thanks for letting me know.  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 02:48, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

O'Neil

 – --DannyS712 (talk) 17:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I am Alley O'Neil, how much more of a reliable reference do you need? I would like to be recognized as such if I am mentioned. Is that okay? This is part of my resume. Can we please correct this issue? You can ask Kim and Edna over at the station.

Thanks Mary — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.255.17 (talk) 07:48, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

What is this in reference to? Also, you can't cite yourself, you need independent reliable sources. I'm moving this to my talk page, where this can be discussed further --DannyS712 (talk) 17:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Consensus not to move?

Danny, re your close at Talk:Stokes'_theorem#Requested_move_4_December_2018, it seems very odd that you see a consensus when there are 6 editors favoring going with the guidance of the MOS which was arrived at for this particular issue in a recent centralized RFC at WP:VPPOL. I could understand a close saying "no consensus to move", but how you can see a consensus to not move and to revisit MOS:POSS is beyond me. Dicklyon (talk) 22:22, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: there were a couple of reasons for this, including that the !vote was 6-15 (clear supermajority against the move, and yes I know that this isn't a democracy, so this wasn't the controlling factor) and the fact that the common name policy usually trumps the MOS guideline. I read through the entire discussion two times, and parts of it a third time, and I was on the fence between no consensus and consensus not to move, but it was the observation that since it was relisted (and when there was presumably no consensus to move) 5 days ago no new supporters have emerged, while four more new editors opposed it with well explained opinions that convinced me to go with consensus not to move. Hopefully this explains it. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:35, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Danny, if you believe the nonsense about "the fact that the common name policy usually trumps the MOS guideline" then you are unqualified to close this. Please revert and leave it to an uninvolved admin. Dicklyon (talk) 23:38, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
@Dicklyon: I answered your question above because I thought you were just wondering. I read your comments at the requested move discussion, and read all of the points about whether or not common name should be taken into account. I don't appreciate your characterization of this as "nonsense". MOS explicitly says that exceptions apply, and WP:NOTBURO stresses that "Do not follow an overly strict interpretation of the letter of policies without consideration for their principles. If the rules truly prevent you from improving the encyclopedia, ignore them. Disagreements are resolved through consensus-based discussion, not by tightly sticking to rules and procedures." If you truly believe I have erred, you can go to WP:Move review, with this discussion qualifying as step 1 (discuss with closer.) Alternatively, any uninvolved admin may revert me, or convert this to "no consensus to move". --DannyS712 (talk) 23:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I think I agree that a move review is in order, but I came here first as you suggested and as is normal. Dicklyon (talk) 03:47, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

See move review at Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2018_December#Stokes'_theorem. Dicklyon (talk) 05:32, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

COMMONNAME is not a style policy. Never has been, never will be. Every suggestion in Wikipedia's history to make any style issue of any kind into a policy-level matter has been overwhelmingly rejected, and style matters are left to MoS, at guideline level. All of them. Always. MoS is cited every single day at RM. Every. Day. This would not be possible and these guidelines would not exist at all if COMMONNAME were a style policy. WP:AT and the naming conventions guidelines would not be crossreferencing MoS pages. Style-related naming conventions like WP:NCCAPS would not be based on MoS, but vice versa. The actual fact is that MoS has standards for when to apply style, based loosely on the COMMONNAME principle, but more stringent: apply a style that disagrees with MoS's default when and only when reliable sources do so consistently. Thus we have an article at Deadmau5, because no pretty much no RS ever refer to him as "Deadmaus"; we do not have an article at SONY because RS routinely spell it Sony, recognizing that it is not an acronym and that the capitalization is just marketing. This is not news. It is how WP operates and has operated for its entire existence. If you do not understand this then, yes, you are not competent to be making such closes.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
@SMcCandlish: I stand by my close, and for further discussion please go to Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2018_December#Stokes'_theorem. I don't appreciate just coming to my userpage and making personal attacks. Happy holidays. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
You clearly also need to read WP:NPA, since criticizing your close doesn't come anywhere within an astronomical unit of being a personal attack.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
@SMcCandlish: If you do not understand this then, yes, you are not competent to be making such closes. (bolding added) - we can disagree on the close without resorting to discussing my competence. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:49, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Whether you're competent at RM is an assessment of performance and judgement, not an attack on your character. Cf. the difference between ignorant and stupid. Like ignorance, a competency fault is reparable.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:45, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Okay. Lets move on. Have a merry christmas, and a good rest of your year. --DannyS712 (talk) 11:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@SMcCandlish: Forgot to ping you --DannyS712 (talk) 11:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
You too. In that spirit, I'll clarify more explicitly that I disagree with the close rationale and direction, not with your editing in general. Coincidentally, I addressed why over here; while that's about over-capitalization of "president" in articles on American politics, the reasoning is exactly the same. Closes need to be made with an eye to preventing further dispute, and cannot treat individual article titles as if they existed in a vacuum, because we have WP:CONSISTENCY policy.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:34, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@SMcCandlish: I'm glad we got that cleared up. We disagree about my close, and nothing I say can change that, but I hope if we interact in the future we can do so on good terms. --DannyS712 (talk) 12:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Surely!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:56, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Outlines update

Wow, I've been out of it. I didn't notice you joined the Outlines Project -- three months ago.

I've been preoccupied with portals since April, when they were all nominated for deletion.

Prior to that, I was immersed in the outlines and their precursors for over 10 years, and I plan to go back after 10,000 (completed) portals have been created — we're at just over 4600 portals right now, up from 1500 last April.

The main thrust of the Outline Project at the time of the portal distraction was to build scripts that can build outlines.

First and foremost, we need a way to pull the links from a category, and place them in an outline section as list items. Can you figure out a way to do that? If so, I will hail you as a genius JS scripter. That problem has stumped me for almost two years. It would make an ocean of data available for mining for outlines. The implications for outline development (and other navigation systems) are huge. Wow, I've been out of it. I didn't notice you joined -- three months ago.

I've been preoccupied with portals since April, when they were all nominated for deletion.

Prior to that, I was immersed in the outlines and their precursors for over 10 years, and I plan to go back after 10,000 (completed) portals have been created — we're at just over 4600 portals right now, up from 1500 last April.

The main thrust of the Outline Project at the time of the portal distraction was to build scripts that can build outlines.

First and foremost, we need a way to pull the links from a category, and place them in an outline section as list items. Can you figure out a way to do that? If so, I will hail you as a genius JS scripter. That problem has stumped me for almost two years. It would make an ocean of data available for mining for outlines. The implications for outline development (and other navigation systems) are huge.

HUGE.

Another very useful script would be to copy and convert a navbox template into outline format. That would also help pave the way for rapid development of outlines.

The third key to the kingdom would be a list item annotator, that pulls text out of the linked article's lead, and includes it as an annotation of the list item. We already do something similar for portals (excerpting leads via selective transclusion), so a fork of a lua module, in conjunction with a JS script that applied it using subst:, might do the trick for list item annotations in outlines.


Besides building outlines, another area that scripts can enhance is viewing outlines. Outlines are tree structures, and they become immensely more useful if you can control the tree. More about that later. Enhanced viewing is almost moot without well-developed outlines (translation: "outlines with annotated entries"). And so, tools for building outlines remain the priority, for now.


You might ask, "why not just continue to build outlines by hand?"

Well, I've built around 600 or more of them. Good (not great) outlines take one to five days to make. Great outlines can take weeks. At my fastest, I built 100 outlines per year.

The outlines are one of Wikipedia's navigation systems. A robust number of subject pages for such a system would be 10,000 or more. But, at 100 outlines per year, that would take 100 years of building outlines full time. Unless they come up with the cure for aging, we'd never make it.

Based on what has happened in the portals department, great potential for outlines has been revealed. Portals used to take 6 or more hours each to make. Now, using scripts, they are down to less than a minute each (under the right circumstances).

The same principles can be applied to outlines, and makes the creation of 10,000 outlines within a year's time a feasible goal. That is, with the right tools, an editor could build 10,000 outlines in a year, spending about an hour per day.

I sure hope you can help make this happen.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   12:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: Let's rock!

Discussion

@The Transhumanist: I have an idea. What is a category you want a list of pages for? --DannyS712 (talk) 12:44, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Category:Emerging technologies.    — The Transhumanist   12:56, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: see User:DannyS712/Emerging technologies --DannyS712 (talk) 12:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
I was talking in the context of scripts. Did you use a script to do that? If so, I think I'm going to faint. May I see the source code?    — The Transhumanist   13:18, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: Why use a script? How would that even work? That's so complicated... --DannyS712 (talk) 13:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm glad you asked. By the way, that's the same question as "Why not build them by hand?" (For which I provided a preliminary response, above). Additional answers are... 1) Because every outline has many sections. If you had to pull one category per section, that could get very tedious very quickly. I know, because I've created over 600 outlines pulling lists of links from categories and other sources by various means, including by hand. 2) Also because outlines need to be updated from time to time. Let's say you wanted them updated monthly. Then you'd have to repeat that operation you just did for all the sections of all the outlines every month. That's many thousands of sections, and unfortunately, it would take you about as long as it took to build the outlines in the first place: over 10 years. I hope this provides some perspective as to why automation would be very useful to outlines. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist  13:58, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: I completely understand why automation would be good, but I question using a script. I created that list in 30 seconds using AutoWikiBrowser. Category ____ -> make a list -> save list -> copy past into wikipedia page. :) --DannyS712 (talk) 21:04, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
For one thing, it's an issue of time doing maintenance...
The source list changes over time, and in order for that to be reflected where you copied and pasted it, it would have to be done again every so often. 10,000 outlines could have between them, 800,000 sections. And so, if you wanted to update them all every month, you'd have to do that 30-second operation 800,000 times each month (which works out to 24,000,000 seconds, assuming you'd be working on the task 24-hours per day without sleeping, while a month only has 2,592,000 seconds in it). So, it's impossible for a human to maintain a set of 10,000 outlines in a reasonable amount of time.
Portals had the same problem: their material would be copied and pasted once, and would sit there and go stale and fork from the original sources. They became years out of date, because the editor who did a 30-second operation, never came back to do it again. Now, the material in a portal is grabbed by server every time the portal is displayed, and so the sources and their copies always match. Each portal is updated, not once per year, not once per month, not once per day, but in real-time, every time a person looks at the portal. Don't you think that should apply to the material in outlines as well?
For another thing, it's an issue of scalability...
Take a look at Outline of chess. It has about 80 sections with a list of links. At 30-seconds each to create, that's 40 minutes to create the outline. 40 minutes times 10,000 outlines is 400,000 minutes of editor time = 833 8-hour work days = 166 40-hour work weeks = about 3 years working full-time. In actual practice, outlines take a lot longer than 40-minutes to build by hand. They take days. Working full-time for an entire year, working on nothing else, I can build about 100 of them. So, 10,000 outlines would take 100 years of full-time effort. And that is without maintaining them.
I don't want to work on outlines for another 100 years. I don't even want to work on them for another year - I've already put 12 years into them. I'd like to see 10K in one month - after the programs to build outlines are ready. The question is, where am I going to find a programmer who can make category calls to pull the article titles out of them and deposit them into outline sections?
If you come across someone who can do this, please let me know immediately!
In the meantime, if you can figure out how to do it yourself, please let me know immediately!
Or if you read a thread somewhere that explains how to do it, please let me know immediately!
Thank you.
Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   08:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
P.S.: There's this concept floating around called "Quantum portal". It's the idea of clicking a menu item to see a portal on the current subject, generated from scratch by computer at that moment. We are getting pretty close to creating that already. By the way, we already have Quantum categories. Hypothetically, we could also have Quantum Portals, Quantum outlines, and even Quantum articles.    — The Transhumanist   09:03, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I've figured it out and have a draft. Before I show it to you, is the format you want:

and so on? --DannyS712 (talk) 06:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: reminder ping? --DannyS712 (talk) 08:13, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Ooh. Yes. (Sorry for the delay in my reply.)    — The Transhumanist   08:51, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: take a look at User:DannyS712/Emerging technologies for the result. I'll publish the script soon, but if you see any issues let me know --DannyS712 test (talk) 23:55, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Did you place that there manually, or via the script?    — The Transhumanist   07:48, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: via script! Is that the format you want? --DannyS712 (talk) 07:49, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes. By the way, when do I get to try it?!    — The Transhumanist   07:58, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: see User:DannyS712 test/in cat.js - its still in beta, but it should work --DannyS712 (talk) 08:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
I installed it yesterday. The menu item doesn't show up.    — The Transhumanist   09:43, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: I only tested it on the vector skin (the skin that I use) but I think it should work on others... --DannyS712 test (talk) 09:46, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Oops. Was looking in the wrong place for it (in the tools menu). Will try it out and get back to you.    — The Transhumanist   09:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Can you make it pull only articles? (not files or categories)    — The Transhumanist   10:02, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: probably, but I'm leaving for vacation in a few hours. I'll see what I can do for the next version --DannyS712 (talk) 10:03, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: User:DannyS712 test/in cat 2.js restricts additions to only articles, lists, etc (only things in mainspace). Happy holidays --DannyS712 (talk) 10:29, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: See User:DannyS712/Cat links. Also, can you make sure to add a backlink to your import, so I can see who has used my script? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 22:31, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Nice icon! ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 03:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: thanks. What do you think of the script itself. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
It doesn't seem to work? I inserted "AfC submissions by date/27 December 2018" and "10" for the prompts and it showed "There are no pages in the specified namespace in that category." ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 08:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Help AE

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: If you are using version 2 (or are importing cat links.js, which then imports version 2), it restricts links to mainspace only (namespace 0). To access another namespace:

  1. Input -1 for the number of pages to add
  2. Input the namespace number of the pages you would like to add
  3. Input the actual number of pages to add

I'll hopefully come up with a better solution later, but for now this ensures that files, categories, etc aren't mistakenly added. See WP:NS for details on what numbers to use for namespaces. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

I imported User:DannyS712/Cat links.js to my common.js ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 08:13, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: then the above instructions should work. Hopefully version 3 will be more elegant - any suggestions for namespace choices are welcome --DannyS712 (talk) 08:14, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh it worked. I didn't look at the source code ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 08:17, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: glad to hear it. Enjoy, and please let me know of any issues. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

What's your JS background?

I'm curious as to how familiar you are with JavaScript.

How long have you been a JavaScript programmer?

What are the most advanced things you've created with it?    — The Transhumanist   12:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I've been really into computer programming for years (C++ -> html/css -> python -> java) but only started javascript a few weeks ago to create a script that I couldn't find. I guess I've just caught a coding bug itch. --DannyS712 (talk) 12:32, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Excellent. Sounds like you are picking it up fast. Good. Because we really need you.    — The Transhumanist   12:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Portals

You've taken the plunge, I see.

Just in time too, because our JS guru is back!

Welcome to chaos (Wikipedia).

At the WikiProject Portals, we're trying to organize it.

Welcome to the team. We have a lot of fun.

Some quick background...

A proposal was made last April to eliminate all portals.

It sparked one of the largest debates in Wikipedia history.

Initially, the discussion wasn't properly advertised, and it looked like portals were doomed.

So, I posted thousands of notices, and supporters came out of the woodwork.

During the debate, I restarted the Portals WikiProject, and some very interesting editors joined.

We immediately went to work automating the portals.

It had taken over 12 years to create the 1500 hundred portals we had. Since April, using some new custom tools, we've created over 3100 new portals.

We're far from done, and are still building portals and the tools to help build them better and faster. (And converting the old portals to the new design paradigm).

Welcome to the project.

I'm happy to meet you.

The New Year is gearing up to be very cool indeed.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   12:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

User scripts Newsletter - Invitation

Hi. Recently, I discovered a passion for created and understanding user scripts on wikipedia, and am planning to create a monthly newsletter about new scripts and related projects (created by anyone, not for simply promoting my own), as well as currently pending user script requests, Wikipedia-related JavaScript tips/tricks, and other related information. This message was sent to you because you are listed as a member of the user script developers category. If you would like to subscribe to this upcoming newsletter, please go to User:DannyS712/subscribe to scripts and add yourself. If you have any questions, please reach out and talk to me。 --DannyS712 (talk) 05:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

Hello DannyS712, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019.
Happy editing,
Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:04, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

@Dreamy Jazz: thanks, and happy holidays to you too! --DannyS712 (talk) 21:05, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Help regarding artist page!

Hey Dan! Hope all is well with you.! So regarding the page for Nuckles, all that is left to do is add inline citations for it to be accepted? Thank you very much!)) Musiccollective97 (talk) 03:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@Musiccollective97: I only pointed out the biggest issue, which was the use of citations. There are a few other problems, with formatting and other small things. If you want to message me when you resubmit the draft I'd be happy to take a look. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:30, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
@DannyS712:

Sure! I will send it as soon as i resubmit it. Thank you Danny, i appreciate it a lot! Musiccollective97 (talk)

User scripts newsletter

Hi! Let me know if you want any help with writing the newsletter. Thank you for starting it! Enterprisey (talk!) 04:26, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@Enterprisey: will do. Thanks for the offer. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Nice. When can we expect the first issue?    — The Transhumanist   09:11, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: Either the start or, more likely, the middle of January --DannyS712 (talk) 09:21, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
I can hardly wait!    — The Transhumanist   09:37, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
This is a good idea. New user scripts used to be reported in the "Technology Report" of The Signpost, but the December issues have not included it. I wonder if there's more value in reviving that than creating a new newsletter? The idea being that The Signpost already has a large volume of readers, that include non-techy people too, so the exposure new scripts get is quite large. Of course, there is the problem that The Signpost isn't always regularly published, so you'd have to wait on the other editors to finish writing the issue before your reports is sent out :/
I'd also like to see a way to report major changes to user scripts, and moreover, external tools such as those on Toolforge. For instance, new features that were added to XTools, or Enterprisey's new YABBR tool. What do you think?
If you go the route of a dedicated newsletter, I'd recommend using a system like WP:ANEWS, where anyone can edit the upcoming issue. Similarly you might consider having it live in the Wikipedia namespace rather than your userspace, that way it is more inviting and inclusive to other contributors. Just an idea :)
Thanks for starting this! — MusikAnimal talk 21:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@MusicAnimal: Until it gets really up and running, I plan to keep it in my userspace, but then I'll consider moving it. I'll make it clear, though, that anyone will always be welcome to contribute. I intend to include some toolforge tools, and updates to major pre-existing scripts. I hope this meets your goals... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

p.s. You are welcome to subscribe here --DannyS712 (talk) 02:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

@MusicAnimal and Enterprisey: There is a draft of the first issue at User:DannyS712/SPP 01. Feel free to improve it, expand it, edit it, etc --DannyS712 (talk) 19:13, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Kalynn Campbell

Hi, thank you for having reviewed and approved the draft. Now that it approved will it show up in the Google search? At present when I am looking for it on Google, it is not showing up, so thought of seeking guidance from you. Thanks again, regards, --Vinvibes (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:188D:7874:EC2F:124F:3249:DB74 (talk) 09:06, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@Vinvibes: it should. I have added some wikilinks to it (I forgot to de orphan it when I accepted the AfC), but I think there might be a part of the software that says that new articles aren't seen by search engines for some specific length of time (I don't know). Sorry I can't be of more help. --DannyS712 (talk) 09:20, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
@DannyS712:Hi, no problem - will check it out after 24 hours or so and then it would probably be there. Thanks again & Merry Christmas, regards, Vinvibes (talk)
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year 2019!
Hi DannyS712! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, regards & God Bless, Vinvibes (talk)

The Signpost: 24 December 2018

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:35, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Hello DannyS712: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Walk Like an Egyptian (talk) 06:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message
@Walk Like an Egyptian: you too! Have a great rest of your year --DannyS712 (talk) 06:43, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

Hello DannyS712, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019.
Happy editing,
―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 07:58, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: you too! --DannyS712 (talk) 08:02, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot (12/25/18)

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Tagged with…
8 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start The Diplomatic Courier (talk) Add sources
27 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C The European Dream (talk) Add sources
151 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C October 16 (talk) Add sources
44 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Oscar Holter (talk) Add sources
11 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C South Florida Fair (talk) Add sources
129 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Tayrona National Natural Park (talk) Add sources
639 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA Black or White (talk) Cleanup
36 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Anti-rape movement (talk) Cleanup
7 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Donny Gillies (talk) Cleanup
15 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Pillan (talk) Expand
711 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: B BRIC (talk) Expand
1,394 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA 2018 Armenian parliamentary election (talk) Expand
34 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Political midlife crisis (talk) Unencyclopaedic
58 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Post-assault treatment of sexual assault victims (talk) Unencyclopaedic
474 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C County Cork (talk) Unencyclopaedic
1,270 Quality: High, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: GA Ticketmaster (talk) Merge
123 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Extract (talk) Merge
420 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Barbary Coast (talk) Merge
2,848 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Field hockey (talk) Wikify
182 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Rape in Pakistan (talk) Wikify
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Olivier Fillieule (talk) Wikify
13 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Finno-Ugric countries (talk) Orphan
3 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub Lugliano (talk) Orphan
6 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Von Franco (talk) Orphan
29 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Everything's Archie (album) (talk) Stub
50 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start United States Trade and Development Agency (talk) Stub
276 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start The Ringer (website) (talk) Stub
154 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Deborah De Robertis (talk) Stub
8 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Pseudognaphalium californicum (talk) Stub
12 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Villarrica Lake (talk) Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot (talk) 11:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Lutidiníc acid

You were too fast ... JWBE (talk) 13:12, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

@JWBE: I couple of questions. I can understand that this may have been too fast, I didn't realize that you had started it just a few minutes ago. But, on your talk page, you say that the chemists will discover it very quickly. You are too fast and too "engaged". What do you mean that chemists will discover it? What do you mean that I am "engaged"? Happy holidays, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Just move it back an let me do my work without any further disturbances. Merry Christmas :-(( JWBE (talk) 13:27, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@JWBE: My concerns stand, but if you want to move it back yourself I won't object (provided you work on improving it). Happy holidays --DannyS712 (talk) 13:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #024, 26 Dec 2018

Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...

Portals status

We now have 4,620 portals.

And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...

Can we make it?

The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.

( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}} or {{subst:bpsp}} )

Evad is back!

After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.

Be sure to welcome him back.

Improved cropping is coming to Portal image banner

User:FR30799386 is working on making {{Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.

Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.

Upgrade of flagship portals is underway

Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).

So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.

Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.

Spotting missing portals that are redirects

In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.

Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.

The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.

Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.

To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.

What's new in portal space?

Here are the new portals since the last issue:
  1. Portal:17th century
  2. Portal:18th century
  3. Portal:Absinthe
  4. Portal:Abuse
  5. Portal:Academic degrees
  6. Portal:Acari
  7. Portal:Acipenseriformes
  8. Portal:Actas
  9. Portal:Actinopterygii
  10. Portal:Activision
  11. Portal:Aerobatics
  12. Portal:Aeroflot
  13. Portal:Aesop
  14. Portal:Afrosoricida
  15. Portal:Aichi
  16. Portal:Airlines
  17. Portal:Air traffic control
  18. Portal:Akon
  19. Portal:Alan Turing
  20. Portal:Alfred Nobel
  21. Portal:Alice Paul
  22. Portal:Allahabad
  23. Portal:Allgemeine-SS
  24. Portal:Allium
  25. Portal:Aluminium
  26. Portal:Alvarezsauroidea
  27. Portal:Alveolata
  28. Portal:Amazon
  29. Portal:Amino acids
  30. Portal:Ancient Greek philosophy
  31. Portal:Andalusia
  32. Portal:Andes
  33. Portal:Animax
  34. Portal:Antennas
  35. Portal:Anthrax (American band)
  36. Portal:Antibiotics
  37. Portal:Antidotes
  38. Portal:Antifungals
  39. Portal:Antimony
  40. Portal:Antivirus software
  41. Portal:Aquifers
  42. Portal:Arachnids
  43. Portal:Armadillos
  44. Portal:Armour
  45. Portal:Art movements
  46. Portal:Arvicolinae
  47. Portal:Asanas
  48. Portal:Association of Southeast Asian Nations
  49. Portal:AstraZeneca
  50. Portal:Asturias
  51. Portal:Asus
  52. Portal:Atoms
  53. Portal:Automation
  54. Portal:Aylesbury
  55. Portal:Aztecs
  56. Portal:Bags
  57. Portal:Banks
  58. Portal:Basalt
  59. Portal:Batgirl
  60. Portal:Bats
  61. Portal:Bay Area Rapid Transit
  62. Portal:Beijing Subway
  63. Portal:Belo Horizonte
  64. Portal:Ben Affleck
  65. Portal:Binondo
  66. Portal:Biodiversity of Colombia
  67. Portal:Biomes
  68. Portal:Blue Origin
  69. Portal:Board games
  70. Portal:Boca Raton, Florida
  71. Portal:Bruno Mars
  72. Portal:Budapest Metro
  73. Portal:Buffalo, New York
  74. Portal:Bullying
  75. Portal:Busan Metro
  76. Portal:Buteoninae
  77. Portal:C++
  78. Portal:Cairo Metro
  79. Portal:Canadian art
  80. Portal:Character encoding
  81. Portal:Character encodings
  82. Portal:Charity
  83. Portal:Chemical engineering
  84. Portal:Chemical synthesis
  85. Portal:Chickenpox
  86. Portal:Chili peppers
  87. Portal:Chongqing Rail Transit
  88. Portal:Climate
  89. Portal:Communication
  90. Portal:Community of Madrid
  91. Portal:Computer files
  92. Portal:Concurrent computing
  93. Portal:Conservation biology
  94. Portal:Containers
  95. Portal:Contract bridge
  96. Portal:Convicts in Australia
  97. Portal:Copenhagen Metro
  98. Portal:Crochet
  99. Portal:Cucurbita
  100. Portal:Culture of Albania
  101. Portal:Culture of Argentina
  102. Portal:Culture of Armenia
  103. Portal:Culture of Assam
  104. Portal:Culture of Australia
  105. Portal:Culture of Austria
  106. Portal:Culture of Azerbaijan
  107. Portal:Culture of Bahrain
  108. Portal:Culture of Bangladesh
  109. Portal:Culture of Belarus
  110. Portal:Culture of Belgium
  111. Portal:Culture of Belize
  112. Portal:Culture of Bengal
  113. Portal:Culture of Cornwall
  114. Portal:Culture of Djibouti
  115. Portal:Culture of England
  116. Portal:Culture of Kerala
  117. Portal:Culture of Somalia
  118. Portal:Culture of West Bengal
  119. Portal:Curitiba
  120. Portal:Databases
  121. Portal:Data mining
  122. Portal:Data storage
  123. Portal:Deforestation and desertification
  124. Portal:Delta Air Lines
  125. Portal:Demi Lovato
  126. Portal:Demography
  127. Portal:Desalination
  128. Portal:Development of the human body
  129. Portal:Disease
  130. Portal:Disney Princess
  131. Portal:Dmitri Mendeleev
  132. Portal:Dublin
  133. Portal:DVD
  134. Portal:Eating
  135. Portal:Electronic components
  136. Portal:Elizabeth Cady Stanton
  137. Portal:Elizabeth I of England
  138. Portal:Ellie Goulding
  139. Portal:Embedded systems
  140. Portal:Embroidery
  141. Portal:Emmeline Pankhurst
  142. Portal:Emmy Awards
  143. Portal:Enugu
  144. Portal:Euro
  145. Portal:Eurostar
  146. Portal:Even-toed ungulates
  147. Portal:Executables
  148. Portal:Experimental aircraft
  149. Portal:Falkland Islands
  150. Portal:Fibers
  151. Portal:File sharing
  152. Portal:File systems
  153. Portal:Frankfurt
  154. Portal:Gaels
  155. Portal:Galicia (Spain)
  156. Portal:Gardens
  157. Portal:Gemstones
  158. Portal:Geotechnical engineering
  159. Portal:Geothermal power
  160. Portal:Glass
  161. Portal:Glass production
  162. Portal:GLONASS
  163. Portal:Guangzhou Metro
  164. Portal:Habitats
  165. Portal:Hall of Fame for Great Americans
  166. Portal:Helicopters
  167. Portal:Helmets
  168. Portal:Helsinki
  169. Portal:Hilary Duff
  170. Portal:Hiroshima
  171. Portal:History of computing
  172. Portal:Honey bees
  173. Portal:Honolulu County, Hawaii
  174. Portal:Hubble Space Telescope
  175. Portal:Hummingbirds
  176. Portal:HVAC
  177. Portal:Hymenoptera
  178. Portal:Intermodal containers
  179. Portal:International Council for Science
  180. Portal:International Space Station
  181. Portal:Interstate Highway System
  182. Portal:IOS
  183. Portal:IPv6
  184. Portal:Ithaca, New York
  185. Portal:James Webb Space Telescope
  186. Portal:Jammu and Kashmir
  187. Portal:JavaScript
  188. Portal:Jay-Z
  189. Portal:John Major
  190. Portal:Kabul
  191. Portal:KFC
  192. Portal:Khuzestan Province
  193. Portal:Launch vehicles
  194. Portal:Laundry
  195. Portal:Lenovo
  196. Portal:Leo Tolstoy
  197. Portal:Library classification systems
  198. Portal:Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II
  199. Portal:Longevity
  200. Portal:Los Angeles International Airport
  201. Portal:Love
  202. Portal:Lyra (constellation)
  203. Portal:MacOS
  204. Portal:Macroeconomics
  205. Portal:Madrid
  206. Portal:Mail
  207. Portal:Malaria
  208. Portal:Malware
  209. Portal:Manhattan Project
  210. Portal:Mao Zedong
  211. Portal:Marrakesh
  212. Portal:Mathematics and art
  213. Portal:Mattel
  214. Portal:Mayotte
  215. Portal:Media culture
  216. Portal:Media manipulation
  217. Portal:Medications
  218. Portal:Men
  219. Portal:Metalworking
  220. Portal:Metropolitan Transportation Authority
  221. Portal:Michael Faraday
  222. Portal:Microeconomics
  223. Portal:Milan Metro
  224. Portal:Military aircraft
  225. Portal:Military deception
  226. Portal:Mixed reality
  227. Portal:Modern history
  228. Portal:Mood disorders
  229. Portal:Morpeth, Northumberland
  230. Portal:Moscow Metro
  231. Portal:MPEG
  232. Portal:MTR
  233. Portal:Multihulls
  234. Portal:Museums
  235. Portal:Music of Scotland
  236. Portal:NASA
  237. Portal:National anthems
  238. Portal:Natural language processing
  239. Portal:Neoplasms
  240. Portal:New Delhi
  241. Portal:Northern Cyprus
  242. Portal:Nuclear weapons
  243. Portal:Nuts
  244. Portal:Odd-toed ungulates
  245. Portal:Ores
  246. Portal:Organ transplantation
  247. Portal:Orthoptera
  248. Portal:Oslo
  249. Portal:Palmyra
  250. Portal:Pan-Africanism
  251. Portal:Panasonic
  252. Portal:Parrots
  253. Portal:Parties
  254. Portal:Peanuts
  255. Portal:Peanuts (comic strip)
  256. Portal:Perl
  257. Portal:Permaculture
  258. Portal:Pesticides
  259. Portal:Physical fitness
  260. Portal:Physiology
  261. Portal:Plant nutrition
  262. Portal:Porcelain
  263. Portal:Ports and harbors
  264. Portal:Pre-Columbian era
  265. Portal:Prehistoric Scotland
  266. Portal:Private transport
  267. Portal:Programming languages
  268. Portal:Programming paradigms
  269. Portal:Prostitution
  270. Portal:Protests
  271. Portal:Psychological manipulation
  272. Portal:P. T. Barnum
  273. Portal:Public housing in the United Kingdom
  274. Portal:Public transport in Helsinki
  275. Portal:Public transport in Istanbul
  276. Portal:Pueblos
  277. Portal:Pune
  278. Portal:Quilting
  279. Portal:Racing
  280. Portal:Radiation
  281. Portal:RAID
  282. Portal:Rail transport in Argentina
  283. Portal:Rail transport in Finland
  284. Portal:Rail transport in Germany
  285. Portal:Rail transport in Israel
  286. Portal:Rail transport in Malaysia
  287. Portal:Rail transport in Norway
  288. Portal:Rail transport in Singapore
  289. Portal:Rail transport in Spain
  290. Portal:Rail transport in Sri Lanka
  291. Portal:Rail transport in Thailand
  292. Portal:Rail transport in the United Arab Emirates
  293. Portal:Realism (arts)
  294. Portal:Recycling
  295. Portal:Religion in China
  296. Portal:Religion in Egypt
  297. Portal:Religion in Iran
  298. Portal:Religion in Israel
  299. Portal:Religion in Mexico
  300. Portal:Religion in Mozambique
  301. Portal:Religion in Myanmar
  302. Portal:Religion in Norway
  303. Portal:Religion in Pakistan
  304. Portal:Religion in Poland
  305. Portal:Religion in Portugal
  306. Portal:Religion in Romania
  307. Portal:Religion in Scotland
  308. Portal:Religion in South Africa
  309. Portal:Religion in Sweden
  310. Portal:Religion in Thailand
  311. Portal:Religion in Turkey
  312. Portal:Religion in Zimbabwe
  313. Portal:Republic of Artsakh
  314. Portal:Revolutions
  315. Portal:Reykjavík
  316. Portal:Rhythm
  317. Portal:Rocket engines
  318. Portal:Rodenticides
  319. Portal:Roofs
  320. Portal:Roscosmos
  321. Portal:Roses
  322. Portal:Rowing
  323. Portal:RuPaul
  324. Portal:Saint Helena
  325. Portal:Sales
  326. Portal:San Juan, Puerto Rico
  327. Portal:San Marino
  328. Portal:São Paulo
  329. Portal:Scottish art
  330. Portal:Scottish clans
  331. Portal:Sex work
  332. Portal:Shinkansen
  333. Portal:Shipbuilding
  334. Portal:Silk
  335. Portal:Simple living
  336. Portal:SkyTrain (Vancouver)
  337. Portal:South Ossetia
  338. Portal:Space Shuttles
  339. Portal:SpaceX
  340. Portal:Spike Lee
  341. Portal:SQL
  342. Portal:Starbucks
  343. Portal:Statue of Liberty
  344. Portal:Stem cells
  345. Portal:Stonehenge
  346. Portal:Street newspapers
  347. Portal:Stuttgart
  348. Portal:Submarines
  349. Portal:Suffragettes
  350. Portal:Susan B. Anthony
  351. Portal:Systems
  352. Portal:Tallinn
  353. Portal:Tashkent
  354. Portal:Telephony
  355. Portal:Tents
  356. Portal:Tigers
  357. Portal:Tobacco
  358. Portal:Tomatoes
  359. Portal:Toronto Transit Commission
  360. Portal:Tortoises
  361. Portal:Transnistria
  362. Portal:Transport in Afghanistan
  363. Portal:Transport in Barcelona
  364. Portal:Transport in Belgium
  365. Portal:Transport in Bristol
  366. Portal:Transport in Bucharest
  367. Portal:Transport in Buckinghamshire
  368. Portal:Transport in Cardiff
  369. Portal:Transport in Chennai
  370. Portal:Transport in China
  371. Portal:Transport in Edinburgh
  372. Portal:Transport in Glasgow
  373. Portal:Transport in Guyana
  374. Portal:Transport in Hong Kong
  375. Portal:Transport in India
  376. Portal:Transport in Ireland
  377. Portal:Transport in Israel
  378. Portal:Transport in Kiev
  379. Portal:Transport in London
  380. Portal:Transport in Somerset
  381. Portal:Transport in Tamil Nadu
  382. Portal:Transport in Tiruchirappalli
  383. Portal:Transport in Vietnam
  384. Portal:Transport in Warsaw
  385. Portal:Tuberculosis
  386. Portal:Twitter
  387. Portal:Umayyad Caliphate
  388. Portal:United States Armed Forces
  389. Portal:United States Congress
  390. Portal:USB
  391. Portal:Valencian Community
  392. Portal:Vijayawada
  393. Portal:Voting
  394. Portal:Washington Metro
  395. Portal:Waterfalls
  396. Portal:Weapons
  397. Portal:Weaving
  398. Portal:Web browsers
  399. Portal:Websites
  400. Portal:Wendy's
  401. Portal:Women's prisons in the United States
  402. Portal:Woodworking
  403. Portal:World Chess Championships
  404. Portal:Yangtze

Keep 'em coming!

And I'll see you next issue.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   08:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the references

Requires significant coverage in independent reliable sources

Could you explain what does this mean? What do I need to show in order for my article to be accepted by Wikipedia?

Aidar.bekmukhambet (talk) 07:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Aidar.bekmukhambet: You can check Help:Referencing for beginners for the basics, but in a nutshell it means that the article's subject must be shown to be notable by providing evidence that independent sources (ie news, etc) have reported about the subject. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:07, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

"Statement misleading information"

The following statement is not true: " you can simply create a named account. It's free, requires no personal information, and lets you:" as it requires an email address that is as personal and singular as one's own name..2605:E000:9149:8300:8063:58D6:607C:BD3D (talk) 23:34, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

An email address is not required, it is merely recommended. --DannyS712 (talk) 23:37, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
The create an account page explicitly says Email address (optional) --DannyS712 (talk) 23:38, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Alabama v. North Carolina

On 30 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alabama v. North Carolina, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2010, the US Supreme Court heard an original jurisdiction case in which four states sued North Carolina for refusing to return the money they had invested in a failed waste facility? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alabama v. North Carolina. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alabama v. North Carolina), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #025, 30 Dec 2018

We can now crop the tops of pics to make banners

Before, we could only cut off the bottom of pics.

User:FR30799386 has pulled it off, and made the upgrade to {{Portal image banner}}...

So, this:

Niagara falls, from the Canadian side
Niagara falls, from the Canadian side

Becomes this:

Niagara falls, from the Canadian side
Niagara falls, from the Canadian side

Here's the code for the above banner:

{{Portal image banner|File:American Falls from Canadian side in winter.jpg | [[Niagara falls]], from the Canadian side |maxheight=175px |overflow=Hidden|croptop=10}}

To see it employed in a portal, check out Portal:Niagara Falls.

About that end of the year goal...

We were racing against time to create 5,000 portals by the end of the year (just for the heck of it).

We made it. We've passed the 5,000 portals mark, with time to spare!

And the 5,000th portal is Portal:Major League Baseball, by Happypillsjr.

Congratulations!

What's next?

The 10,000th portal mark. But...

...there is plenty else to do in addition to building new portals:

  1. The new portals need to be linked to from the encyclopedia.
  2. On those portals about subjects that are not typically capitalized, the search parameters need to be refined/expanded, to maximize the chances of Did you know and In the news items being found and displayed.
  3. A Recognized content section needs to be added to each portal that has a corresponding WikiProject.
  4. Addition of a category on those portals that lack a subject category.
  5. Implement the portal category system, adding the appropriate categories to each portal.
  6. Upgrade, and complete (as per the tasks enumerated above), the old-style portals that are not regularly maintained, which have not been converted yet (about 1,100 of them).
  7. Find and fix the remaining bugs in the underlying lua modules.
  8. Build portal tools (scripts) to assist in the creation, development, and maintenance of portals.
  9. Build a script to help build navbox footer templates, via the harvesting of categories, amongst other methods.
  10. Update the portal building instructions.
  11. Update the portal guideline.
  12. Refine the programming of the portals to reduce their load time.
  13. Design and develop the next generation of portals and portal components.

And whatever else you can dream up.

But most of all, have a...

Happy New Year!

DannyS712, thank you for your contributions to the Portals Project, and have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   11:53, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, DannyS712. You have new messages at WT:Did you know.
Message added 13:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

——SerialNumber54129 13:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I do? There aren't any there... --DannyS712 (talk) 17:08, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Well, there was one, but it was...removed nearly an hour later  :) ——SerialNumber54129 17:23, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: Oh. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Think

If you cannot see what is needed you shouldn't be editing Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.118.163.234 (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

I tracked down the requested edit, despite you not referencing what page or what edit you were talking about. Please consider making an account so that you can make such edits yourself in the future. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:54, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
For my own records: --DannyS712 (talk) 03:55, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 1

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (December 2018).

Hello everyone and welcome to the brand new Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Mudisooda Manan

Just a friendly reminder that you might want to review the requirements for an A1 speedy deletion. No context means there's no possible way to know what the article is about, even with a google search. The article said it was about a film and listed the stars, so A1 didn't apply.----Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

@Fabrictramp: will do. Sorry, this was my first time using A1 (i think), and I though it was just based on if you could tell what the article is about just from what is written / in the history. I'll be more careful in the future --DannyS712 (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of XIX Army Corps

Hello! Your submission of XIX Army Corps at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:15, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!

Hello DannyS712: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 05:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)



Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

Btw, the newsletter was fantastic and I love it! ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 05:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Question for administrator

Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 was just created, and I believe that it should be draftified. However, it has been previously draftified, both by me and others, after which the author requests that the draft be deleted and then recreates the article in mainspace. See a full timeline below. What should I do. The author has intentionally removed draftification notices, leading me to believe that, despite trying to AGF, they are intentionally seeking to "cover their tracks" before recreating an article. I don't, however, want to turn this into a create/move/delete war. Also, I can't see if there were any improvements made between drafts, but I believe that the current one is not suitable for mainspace.

  1. 04:46, 08 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - created
  2. 15:06, 14 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - draftified (redirect deleted)
  3. 10:39, 15 December 2018: Draft:Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - notification of AfC decline
  4. 18:29, 15 December 2018: Draft:Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - deleted at author's request
  5. 19:06, 15 December 2018: Removal of AfC declined notification
  6. 02:46, 16 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - created
  7. 03:20, 16 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - draftified (by me) (redirect deleted)
  8. 03:20, 16 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2018 - notification of draftifying (by me)
  9. 04:45, 16 December 2018: Draft:Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - deleted at author's request
  10. 03:18, 20 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - created
  11. 03:28, 20 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - draftified (by me) (redirect deleted)
  12. 03:28, 20 December 2018: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2018 - notification of draftifying (by me)
  13. 03:35, 20 December 2018: Removal of draftification notifications
  14. 05:18, 01 January 2019: Draft:Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - deleted at author's request
  15. 05:20, 01 January 2019: Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 - created

--DannyS712 (talk) 05:42, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Legacy Fighting Alliance in 2019 is salted. Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!

Hello and Happy New Year!

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot (01/01/2019)

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation and please get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Tagged with…
21 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Sesame Street 4-D Movie Magic (talk) Add sources
21 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub Raj News Kannada (talk) Add sources
2,433 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: B Copyright (talk) Add sources
494 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C September 1 (talk) Add sources
134 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C July 27 (talk) Add sources
17 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Sesame Street: 25 Wonderful Years (talk) Add sources
324 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Gujarat International Finance Tec-City (talk) Cleanup
19 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start The Cookie Thief (talk) Cleanup
71 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Orai (talk) Cleanup
111 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: C Jul (rapper) (talk) Expand
25 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C 2016–17 Edmonton Oilers season (talk) Expand
9 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Sesame Square (talk) Expand
461 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C West Coast hip hop (talk) Unencyclopaedic
69 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: C Can You Tell Me How to Get to Sesame Street? (talk) Unencyclopaedic
145 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Swedish death metal (talk) Unencyclopaedic
982 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: B Emo rap (talk) Merge
922 Quality: High, Assessed class: B, Predicted class: FA Maximum likelihood estimation (talk) Merge
304 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Southeast Asian Games (talk) Merge
28 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: C Twin Cities hip hop (talk) Wikify
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Stub One Delivery (talk) Wikify
72 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Start, Predicted class: Start Yip Yips (talk) Wikify
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Mass-assignment protection (talk) Orphan
8 Quality: Low, Assessed class: NA, Predicted class: Start Profile Defenders (talk) Orphan
6 Quality: Medium, Assessed class: C, Predicted class: C Mojeed Alabi (talk) Orphan
28 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Ear pull (talk) Stub
3 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Ava, Iran (talk) Stub
18 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Janasri News (talk) Stub
454 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Start Casa Casuarina (talk) Stub
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Charentay (talk) Stub
4 Quality: Low, Assessed class: Stub, Predicted class: Stub Ait railway station (talk) Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. -- SuggestBot (talk) 11:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

article unreviewed

Hi, I created a page that has yet to be reviewed or indexed which is this one: Kinwar. I would appreciate if you could help please. Thank you.ChuckAlor (talk) 16:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

@ChuckAlor:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 18:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Guideline and policy news

  1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
  2. R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
  3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

Technical news

  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
  1. At least 8 characters in length
  2. Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
  3. Different from their username
User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
  • Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
  • {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
  • Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK commas

 – --DannyS712 (talk) 01:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Moved from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors&oldid=876378079

I have moved part of the discussion so that we can continue it, and refactored it slightly. @Bilorv, Jmchutchinson, Kevin McE, and Yoninah: I'd like to more fully discuss this. Please approve my slight refactoring if its okay, and then lets discuss. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK current

  • "that when creating the television drama Butterfly, the playwright..." - comma after Butterfly should be removed (or, less ideally, a comma should be added -> "that, when creating...") --DannyS712 (talk) 07:12, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
    As the writer of the hook, I'm interested to know why this is wrong. I can see why your two suggestions are grammatically correct but not why the current version is grammatically incorrect. Can you explain it to someone who doesn't know much about grammar (or at least give me a relevant link)? — Bilorv(c)(talk) 13:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
  • "that in the Battle of the Hatpins, women protestors..." - comma after Hatpins should be removed (or, less ideally, a comma should be added -> "that, in the Battle...") --DannyS712 (talk) 07:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: in the above two hooks, you are advocating styles that have not been used at DYK for many years. The style is to put a comma after the first clause, including a year (e.g. "In 1973,". We do not put a comma after the initial "that". And we use "woman" or "women" as an adjective instead of "female", as weird as that looks. Yoninah (talk) 13:36, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
It is a red herring that the commas follow "that". The point is that an adverbial phrase such as "when creating the television drama Butterfly" should either have matching commas either side of it, or no commas at all. It is wrong to include just one of these commas, with the minor exception that when such a phrase starts a sentence (e.g. "In 1973") the opening comma is of course omitted. (And similarly if the adverbial phrase is at the end of the sentence, we just use a full stop, not a comma followed by a full stop.) DYK cannot set its own rules about this standard aspect of English grammar. Jmchutchinson (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Jmchutchinson for that explanaition. @Bilorv and Yoninah: It is grammatically incorrect to have only one of the commas. I understand that, at DYK, its undesirable to have a comma directly after "that," and so my first choice is just to remove the improper comma, which would then a) not have a comma after "that," and b) be grammatically correct. If you look at MOS:COMMA, no correct example uses just 1 comma for the delineation of an adverbial phrase --DannyS712 (talk) 18:12, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I think I'm rather reluctantly agreed. When reading and writing the hooks, I view them as full sentences, ignoring the standard phrase—that is, I'm reading "When creating ..., the playwright ... to be 'trendy'", which is correct. But when prepending the "Did you know that" and appending a "?", it ceases to be correct. I'll try to refrain from making these constructions in future. — Bilorv(c)(talk) 18:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: you are bringing a fresh perspective to DYK. But our style is encoded in a rulebook (see WP:DYK#Format). I suggest you bring this new issue to consensus at WT:DYK. Otherwise I will continue to edit the preps one way, and you will be bringing a lot of error messages. This long thread has already precluded someone from bringing up a real error on a hook in this set. Yoninah (talk) 19:15, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
There is no need for a consensus on DYK for the rest of the encyclopaedia to expect that project to use proper English grammar.
If admins at DYK know something is factually incorrect, they can do something about it without it having to be addressed here. Not sure why Yoninah should instruct EdChem to bring it to ERRORS rather than do so directly, or why EdChem thinks that because some issues are mentioned, others cannot be. But while others seem to be in some sort of Wikipolitics game, I'll post it. (see "Guêpe-class submarines" in Next queue) Kevin McE (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Yoninah, I could find nothing in WP:DYK#Format, which you cited, as specifying your non-standard use of commas. Nor is there anything specified there about using "women" rather than "female" as an adjective. In the latter case you are entitled to have your own preference (which I share), but I think it is misleading to appeal to DYK policy to defend it, as you seem to be doing. Jmchutchinson (talk) 21:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@Jmchutchinson, Kevin McE, and Yoninah: where can we have a discussion about this. WP:ERRORs isn't meant for "chit-chat," but this is an issue that should be discussed --DannyS712 (talk) 00:02, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

General discussion

  • Question: Should introductory adverbial phrases in DYK hooks have
  1. Just a comma at the end
  2. Commas at the start and end
  3. No commas

[Above discussion questions added unsigned by DannyS712]

  • As I have explained above, not 1, because it violates the standard rules of English punctuation. There seems no good reason to break the rules; non-standard punctuation makes it more difficult to parse the sentence, mildly annoys those aware of the rules, and is a poor advertisement for the quality of Wikipedia. Whether 2 or 3 is preferable is a matter of taste that should be decided individually rather than prescribed; usually neither alternative reads so badly that there would be a need to bring up the issue at Errors. It is probably unnecessary to add that occasionally it will be appropriate that an adverbial phrase is followed but not preceded by a comma—--when the comma is required to punctuate the part of the sentence following. Jmchutchinson (talk) 08:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
  • 3, slightly ahead of 2, but by no means 1. Preference for 3 above 2 is only because of the missing start to the sentence in the way that it is presented on the Main Page. The flow of the sentence might sometimes determine 2 rather than 3. Kevin McE (talk) 15:41, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
  • 2 or 3 at the discretion of the writers, per Jmchutchinson. Personally I think that 3 generally looks better. — Bilorv(c)(talk) 00:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
  • 3, then 2, as "nom" or whatever. Also, general notes: great unsolicited copy edit that added a comma (1 -> 2) (this edit); I just posted more to wp:errors about commas in the next 2 updates ([2]) but until this conversation is over I didn't want to look like I was going behind peoples backs, so this is an fyi. --DannyS712 (talk) 11:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Originally swayed by the discussion on errors towards 2 & 3, I did a little research on usage in similar content clauses ((S)he said that until/unless/while X, Y) and learned that 1) just a comma at the end is most common at publications like The New Yorker, Forbes, Times (ZA), Irish Times, government publications, etc. I do think, however, that it might be better to put adverbials at the end of the embedded clause unless there is a really strong reason not to. Disclosure: I always get commas wrong. In that last sentence, since "unless" is contrastive, it can be introduced by a comma (though it does not require one according to the grammar rules I just read, unless it is strongly contrastive). ^^ SashiRolls t · c 14:10, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
  • I am also familiar with the style mentioned by SashiRolls. I never used to put a comma after the introductory phrase, but then some people at WP:DYK started putting it in, so I've followed suit. I don't mind it being taken out, but sometimes a comma should be added to avoid a run-on sentence. I totally disagree with 2; putting a comma after the initial "that" looks downright cluttered. Yoninah (talk) 21:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

seasonn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921–22_Al-Mokhtalat_SC_seasonn

can you change it to season please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libby Kane (talk • contribs) 11:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

oh and this shit can be deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yar_Taraky

(talk page watcher) Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 13:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
1921–22 Al-Mokhtalat SC season already exists. I'm deleting 1921–22 Al-Mokhtalat SC seasonn ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 13:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
@Libby Kane and Abelmoschus Esculentus: thanks for taking care of the first issue. As for the deletion, please see WP:AFD or, if you think it would be uncontroversial, use WP:PROD --DannyS712 (talk) 21:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

the dude who has been promoting himself will disagree probably

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libby Kane (talk • contribs) 08:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Libby Kane: Well lets wait the 7 days and see DannyS712 (talk) 08:58, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Script tip

Just found out about a fun script tip from mw:ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Parallel_execution. Instead of nesting mw.loader.using and $.ready, you can use $.when to wait for both of them at the same time, so that would be $.when( $.ready, mw.loader.using( /* ... */ ) ).then( function () { /* etc */ } ). Enterprisey (talk!) 18:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Enterprisey: thanks for the tip! --DannyS712 (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Geoff Harvey

Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 22:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Yoninah: I'll note that the source that is "closely paraphrased" is cited 8 times in the article --DannyS712 (talk) 23:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for January 4

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Bacon (name), you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages David Bacon and Justice Bacon (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver).

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 09:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Brexit

Hi Danny!

I hope you are well. Under my request to edit the "Brexit" page (to add a subsection called "Mascot" under the "Cultural References" section) I noticed that you mentioned (19:17, 5 January 2019) that it is "not clear what changes you want to be made".

I was hoping to add the below text (in quotation marks) to the Brexit, Cultural References section. The reason being is that I came across this British company called "Brexit Bear" and I wanted to add it to the Brexit page, as it is in a time where very few British people are being positive about Brexit, would you be able to please approve the text? That would be very kind if possible, thank you!

"Mascot Continued division between "leave" and "remain" campaigners has sowed discord amongst the British population, however there are some who are trying to embrace the exceptional circumstances of Brexit by creating a positive mascot - a "Brexit Bear". A completely neutral mascot, the Brexit Bear looks to make light of the complexities of Brexit whilst encouraging a positive national dialogue that says "no matter the circumstances, the UK will be united and will continue to thrive"."— Preceding unsigned comment added by Natalia Karpoff (talk • contribs) 19:34, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

@Natalia Karpoff: Do you have reliable citations for the mascot? --DannyS712 (talk) 19:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: The quote at the end came from the website www.brexitbear.co.uk but can be removed - it is in reference to the bear quoting "Brexit Bear believes, come rain or shine, that this great country will thrive no matter what". Is this sufficient? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Natalia Karpoff (talk • contribs) 19:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
@Natalia Karpoff: No, you need to have independent sources. Sorry. Also, please remember to sign your comments with ~~~~ in the future! --DannyS712 (talk) 09:29, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

it is not "an example of positivity", it is just a scam to sell overpriced teddy bears. 20 pounds for a cheaply made teddy bear!! its not an official mascot its just some unknown company trying to make money out of misery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libby Kane (talk • contribs) 09:19, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

@Libby Kane: I suggest you have that discussion with Natalia, as I know nothing about the company --DannyS712 (talk) 09:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Funeral of Churchill

Hello! Your submission of Funeral of Churchill at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Joseph2302 (talk) 12:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Trying to understand

Hi DannyS712, I created Nothing to fear but fear itself (disambiguation) because DAB pages that have a primary topic name (like Nothing to fear but fear itself) need a redirect to indicate intentional links to the disambiguation page (WP:INTDABLINK). I have created a lot of redirects like this and they have never had {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} added to them. Since I'm still learning about the inner workings of WP, I'd be interested to know why this is an unnecessary disambiguation and if I should be adding it to every redirect that ends in '(disambiguation)'. Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 14:56, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

@Leschnei: I mis-clicked. Thanks for pointing that out. I have removed {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}. Sorry about that, --DannyS712 (talk) 15:12, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I'm always running into new things that don't quite click in my brain, so I find it best to ask. Leschnei (talk) 18:39, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
@Leschnei: No problem --DannyS712 (talk) 00:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2019)

An example of page orientation: a smartphone positioned upright (portrait orientation) and horizontally (landscape orientation)
Hello, DannyS712.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Page orientation

Please be bold and help to improve this article!

Previous selections: Farce • Scalp

Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations

Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions

Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

  • RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [3]
  • Advanced item MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [4]
  • Advanced item codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [5]
  • Advanced item On several wikis, an account named "Edit filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

  • Advanced item In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [6]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

  • Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.

18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Duchess of Sussex

Hi, Danny! I've responded to your questions at Talk:Meghan, Duchess of Sussex/GA1. Surtsicna (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DannyS712/Archive_1&oldid=998749063"