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I saw "I Saw the Figure 5 in Gold... "
Hi David notMD,
And it was a DYK on 21 February 2018. Splendid! I was quite unaware that it had been included as part of a stamp set.
Thank you so much for improving the article: this sort of collaborative work is why I so enjoy being a Wikipedia editor.
Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Growing up, a print was in my father's study, so long-time familiar. I regret having not yet been to the museum to see the original. David notMD (talk) 12:51, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Vitamin deficiency (declined)
Hello! Your submission of Vitamin deficiency at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Expansion of length of existing article did not qualify for DYK because it did not take into account that some of the expansion was content copied in from other articles (content copied in separately has to undergo 5X expansion to qualify). David notMD (talk) 14:11, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Hemothorax GA
Why should the MRI be removed? One MRI image looks perfectly fine to me.
- In my opinion the image is too dark/murky, and also that infants not discussed in text as having hemothorax. Don't know if this was trauma caused or something infancy specific. I will defer final decision to PeaBrainC, who is a physician. David notMD (talk) 15:09, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Soy allergy article
Hi David, I see you have a background in foods and allergies, so you feel you know what you are talking about, and I can respect that. For my part I have been living with a severe soy allergy for many years, and almost died from a combination of prescribed medication and food last year, because there is so much bad information believed to be true by the medical profession on this topic. It got to the point I could barely walk, and had no resistance to any common cold because I was being exposed to soy in so many small daily ways that my immune system was shot and my joints and many internal organs swollen/inflamed.
You wrote, after deleting my section on treatment: "Not related to Treatment, which is where it was added, the references do not meet WP:MEDRS, the concept of avoiding soy-containing foods is covered elsewhere."
But is it? The system I described is the ONLY treatment that has been effective for me and many other severe soy allergy individuals. It is not as fast acting as epinephrine, but it is much more effective in treating a soy allergy. The medical profession does not describe this in detail anywhere else I have found. Likewise, it is not described in detail anywhere else on wikipedia. I have had to find it through word of mouth, from other individuals with severe soy allergies. Please help me spread this important information. People are getting sick and literally dying from complications for lack of this information.
Source material in the form of medical profession resources and journals may be hard to find: very few people in medicine are studying this. The soy lobby has aggressively worked to drive funding away from this topic, as soy is a 40 billion dollar industry, and information about allergies cut into profits. I understand this, we live in a capitalist society, and the winners write the rules. But I'm not dead yet, and people need to know this information if they have serious soy allergy too.
I have no trouble knowing what works for a soy allergy at this point. Any help you can offer in finding sources if they exist would be greatly appreciated.
--Shanefiddle (talk) 08:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the links. You stated in your reversion note that describing how to eat soy does not belong in the treatment section. Could you explain that further? The reason I added the section on the problem of eating to the treatment section is that is where the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology puts it, although instead of calling it just "Treatment" they call the section "Management and Treatment" which is more accurate. (ACAAI)
--Shanefiddle (talk) 10:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- I moved the list of soy foods and soy containing ingredients to within Treatment, Section Avoiding soy. As with the other Wikipedia allergy articles, a list is appropriate, but a how-to is not. David notMD (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
The Mayo Clinic and others recommend avoiding all soy-sourced ingredients for individuals with a soy allergy. Would that not include avoiding citric acid from soy sources, even if it has been exempted from allergen labeling requirements? I do think citric acid should be in the section on less-allergenic ingredients. Thoughts? --Shanefiddle (talk) 18:47, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Take this up at the Talk page for the article. The Mayo Clinic article is not the ultimate resource. MC tends to over-simplify for a lay readership. Unless there is an article in a peer-reviewed science journal confirming soy-sourced citric acid as a proven allergen, any mention of citric acid does not belong in the article. David notMD (talk) 20:23, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- I am confused. Please help me understand. I thought this category was for ingredients that are not always required to be labelled as a soy allergen by the US FDA. There is no peer-reviewed journal confirming Highly Refined Soybean Oil as a proven allergen, in fact quite the opposite. Yet it remains in the article. Soy Lecithin does requires labeling: why is it in this sub-list instead of listed with the other ingredients? I have gone to the article's talk page, thanks for suggesting it. --Shanefiddle (talk) 23:28, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out to me that Z upgraded the Soy Allergy page to C class - and congratulations on good work well done. What do you think were the reasons they did not believe it was ready for B class? --Shanefiddle (talk) 05:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Adoption template removal
Hi David, I certainly wouldn't call myself an experienced user. I've got less than 200 edits, and am still very much figuring things out. I've yet to write my first article, and am still very much looking for guidance in doing so. LetUsNotLoseHearT 21:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- I reverted my deletion. David notMD (talk) 13:51, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Hershey Felder
Thank you for your note, Doctor. To answer your question, I am an admirer of Hershey Felder's work dating back to 2001. Regarding my lack of Wikipedia editing experience, I use the site regularly for research but do not have sufficient knowledge to contribute on other topics. It was only when a friend mentioned the somewhat negative tone of the article (as well as an odd concentration on atypical media coverage) that I chose to make the edits. I respect Wikipedia's integrity and reliability.
Kind regards, OGT90201 (talk) 16:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Question
Hi David notMD, Would it be easier to have my submission accepted if I revised the article and submitted it as a Stub instead?DriverSafety (talk) 00:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC) Hi David notMD, Thanks for the clarification. I found another reference that I believe meets the 4 criteria of notability. It is a 761-word article in a major French-language Montreal daily, titled "A unique opportunity for Virage Simulation". It describes the potential entry into the Saudi Arabian market. The company name is mentioned nine times. The content includes interviews with the president and vice-president, a description of company activities, e.g. 15% of the annual budget devoted to research and development, and a profile summary listing the location of the head office, the names of the founders, the number of employees, and the languages spoken by the employees. I believe, and please correct me if I am wrong, that this story has enough depth of coverage to make it significant, and the media source is independent and reliable and secondary. I would say this attests to the company's notability. Would you agree? And is the fact that it is in French a barrier? Two other references already cited in the submission I believe also meet the four criteria. One is a 500-word La Presse article focused exclusively on the Virage Simulation company, its history, products and programs. The second is a 870-word Montreal Gazette feature article that is exclusively about the Virage Simulation company, its history, products and programs. Unfortunately, the Gazette article is behind a firewall and I believe that the last editor to decline the submission did not actually look at it. Are three articles that check off all four boxes of the notability criteria sufficient?DriverSafety (talk) 15:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Follow up on your answer to my Tea House question
Hello, David not MD. It's a pleasure to meet you. I read your bio and saw all your awards and must admit I'm a bit embarrassed to be taking up your time. I'm a newbie, but I have completed 10+ edits and have drafted an article not yet moved to the Main Space. Also would like to say I share a few areas of interest with you as I'm a retired registered dietitian and enjoy some areas of history. OK, to my question: A couple of days ago I asked how to delete an unwanted reference in my draft article. You answered I should click on Edit in that section (would that be under References or on the superscript in the article text? BTW, I work in Visual Edit). Under References I clicked on the offending reference and a box popped up with the word Edit, but after clicking on that it wasn't obvious what to do next. So, could you kindly provide more specificity, step by step? I apologize if this sounds a bit dense. Even in Visual Edit, I don't find this particular task intuitive. Thanking you in advance. E54495a (talk) 19:00, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Answer is where the superscript is in the text. Delete it there and it vanishes from the ref list and all subsequent refs get renumbered. If your draft does not have sections or if the ref is in the Lead, click on Edit in the top menu bar. Hope this makes sense. David notMD (talk) 20:21, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your quick response, David not MD. Success! One more for you, if I may. I read on a Wikipedia Wiki page just recently that it was a good idea to save one's new article draft for oneself before uploading it, and this could be done in such a way that all the digital wonders were saved as well (e.g., being able to run the cursor over an inline reference and seeing the entry, etc.). Now I can't find the page that explained how to do this. By any chance, can you direct me to it? Thanks. E54495a (talk) 15:00, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- If what you are working on is identified as Draft, you could copy it to your Sandbox, retaining all the formating. Be aware that if a draft is Declined, or even Rejected (considered fixable versus never going to happen), either way the draft is not deleted. The exceptions are if draft contains copyright material it will be deleted without recovery; also, if clearly person- or business-promotional, or original thinking type essay, deleted without recovery. But for same reasons a reviewer could delete the draft, will also delete the Sandbox. Last recourse is to create a copy on your computer. David notMD (talk) 15:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your quick response, David not MD. Success! One more for you, if I may. I read on a Wikipedia Wiki page just recently that it was a good idea to save one's new article draft for oneself before uploading it, and this could be done in such a way that all the digital wonders were saved as well (e.g., being able to run the cursor over an inline reference and seeing the entry, etc.). Now I can't find the page that explained how to do this. By any chance, can you direct me to it? Thanks. E54495a (talk) 15:00, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Draft:Suresh Sharma
I have talked to Theroadislong . I have explain him everything and about your query of the current The Hindu website , for this i have explain to Theroadislong and i will explain same thing to you please signup in The Hindu website and then sign in after that you will be able to see those two article . I have ask Theroadislong but he is saying he cannot do from UK , then i asked him to give his email i will mail him but i did not get any reply from him .so i copy and pasted article in talks. But still i have not received any reply from Theroadislong. Alekh99 (talk) 14:42, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I talked to Theroadislong yesterday but still i have no reply from him please tell me further instructions. Alekh99 (talk) 14:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I have seen message which you left on Theroadislong tslk page . I think something is not clear to you i have created suresh sharma page for environmentalist as he campaigned for the protection of kadam tree . I am creating a page for diabetes treatment or medicine or invention. In those two article it clear that suresh sharma has filed a writ for a protection of kadam tree . Please check page of suresh sharma i have put him as Indian environmentalist . Alekh99 (talk) 16:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- In my opinion the draft Suresh Sharma as written will not be accepted because it does not achieve Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Same opinion on Kadam extract as a diabetes treatment. I am not a reviewer, so I have no power to make a decision on this draft or any other draft. David notMD (talk) 16:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- But why you deleted mention about suresh sharma on page of neolamarckia cadamba. That article has significant mention that suresh sharma has filed a writ to protect kadam tree.i have previously asked the editors for neolamarckia cadamba edit of suresh sharma and cleared them everything also i have a article specially on a writ filed by suresh sharma for protection of kadam tree but it not available online as it is of year 2004 so i ask editors tell me how to upload that article but they got satisfied with The Hindu article . Explain why you deleted s.Also wiki general notability guidelines states clearly that wiki needs significant coverage but does not need to be the main topic of source material Alekh99 (talk) 16:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- For the article about the tree, I removed that content because I did not consider it useful, i.e., undue weight. I see that another editor is of the same opinion. Next step for you is to start a discussion on your proposed content on the Talk page. Repeating your changes in the face of opposition without discussion is considered edit warring and could lead to you being temporarily blocked from editing. David notMD (talk) 17:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- But why you deleted mention about suresh sharma on page of neolamarckia cadamba. That article has significant mention that suresh sharma has filed a writ to protect kadam tree.i have previously asked the editors for neolamarckia cadamba edit of suresh sharma and cleared them everything also i have a article specially on a writ filed by suresh sharma for protection of kadam tree but it not available online as it is of year 2004 so i ask editors tell me how to upload that article but they got satisfied with The Hindu article . Explain why you deleted s.Also wiki general notability guidelines states clearly that wiki needs significant coverage but does not need to be the main topic of source material Alekh99 (talk) 16:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
We want to business but with the human touch . Thats the reason we are going different way. Thanks Alekh99 (talk) 14:38, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
"Not Constructive"
CLCStudent has been cautioned more than once about over-warning. In this instance, very clear that your months to moths was correct, and has since been restored by another editor. P.S. Type four of ~ (not ≈) after you end your comments and that will 'sign' your User name. David notMD (talk) 16:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your prompt and concise response to my query. Looking through your page you have great expertise and have used it well to improve Wikipedia, and to assist others in doing so.
As a retired surgeon and a wildflower lover I feel grateful that there are folk like you beavering away in the background.
DavidYourmrbumbles (talk) 09:12, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
your help with the entry for Dr Alan Howard
Hello David, I have read your user page. Thank you for your very helpful edits. I am going through all the edits to make this a Good Article.
I've just edited the article and used the @Username: template to send you a message. This message now appears in the body of the article. Is this expected?
thanks again. Tom Tomp-uk (talk) 11:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
David,
Thanks for helping me understand how to talk with editors.
I have edited the text and, I hope, improved the reference. Is the "dubious" tag still required? If not, is this something you can remove?
thanks Tomp-uk (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
I am impressed with your Usage Page
Wow, your soul is grand. I'm am looking for your review. Thanks for stopping in. I now have goals for wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roccie (talk • contribs) 15:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your help on Dr. Adrian R. Lewis' article
Much appreciated David notMD. I appreciate you time and input!
Teahouse Statement
Hey David notMD,
I am a little lost as to why you posted Wikipedia:Teahouse#Problem_editor at the Teahouse? Was that an accident or is there a specific reason as I do not typically see those there.
There is a tool but the topic should probably be posted at another venue, perhaps the AN/I?
Thanks Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 16:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Teahouse Host
- Galendalia There was a question in there: " Is there a process to revert all of an editor's actions?" David notMD (talk) 16:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah I just edited my statement. I suggest Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 16:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Teahouse Host
- Galendalia I don't see it as vandalism as much as it is complete incompetence. I have asked another editor to second my request on the editor's Talk page to cease, or at least slow down and learn what counts as a valid citation. David notMD (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ok I was focusing on the tool part, which admins have to revert all of an editors actions. That works too. Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 17:02, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Teahouse Host
- Aha! David notMD (talk) 17:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Galendalia I don't see it as vandalism as much as it is complete incompetence. I have asked another editor to second my request on the editor's Talk page to cease, or at least slow down and learn what counts as a valid citation. David notMD (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah I just edited my statement. I suggest Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 16:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Teahouse Host
I archived the topic on the Teahouse to prevent those you tagged from starting a war on the page lol! Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 17:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Teahouse Host
Rollbacker and thanks
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Hi David notMD. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
- Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
- Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
- Rollback should never be used to edit war.
- If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
- Use common sense.
If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Sadads (talk) 20:12, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
I saw that you helped diagnose one of the problem editors for #1lib1ref: thank you! Typically we don't run into that kind of problem because most of the library community is thoughtful about sources -- however, we have had a few over enthusiastic, and underinformed participants this round, Sadads (talk) 20:12, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the Rollback resource. I had hoped that the editor in question was making only some mistakes, but the more I looked, the more it was clear that the editor was doing only some form of cursory search and then indiscriminately adding citations. Oh, well. David notMD (talk) 20:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I really appreciate all the work that you did to clean that up -- it seems like there is another step in training this cohort of participants -- luckily we have communications with many of them, so opportunity to help folks learn from their mistakes. Sadads (talk) 21:33, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
removed the "community section" as you recommended User_talk:David_notMD,
l added more trusted sources to support his Awards won and lastly the awards ceremony didn't take place due to corona-virus pandemic ban on social gathering in various parts of the world. Please also forward to Wikipedia owners to design a simple "reply" buttons that somebody can easily find, the discussion interface is extremely clattered and confusing. Thank you for helping me out so much,I appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramsey555 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Biodiversity Park, Visakhapatnam
Sir, I am Bmantha ..Dr. M. R. Murty, a retired Professor from Andhra University, Andhra Pradesh, India from affiliated College. Pl. accept my apologies in the very beginning .. as I have not responded to you immediately. The reason.. I am entirely new to the Wikipedia language and this is my first article. I am the founder member to Dolphin Nature Conservation Society (DNCS) a voluntary, non-governmental, non profitable, eco-friendly organisation formed mainly with teachers and students. We have started developing this Biodiversity Park, Visakhapatnam, India , in the year 2002. Up to 2013 we have maintained it with our own funds and some donations from students and philanthropists. From 2013 onwards, in coordination with government agencies VMRDA and Government Hospital authorities we are maintaining it. Our main objective is to make this garden useful to students and researchers at large. As a teacher in biology this is also my wish to serve the student community practically. I request you to go through my User page (Just now I have learnt how to create it), for details. I am new entirely to this wiki language and other important things, and with the help of reviewers I am slowly learning. This is my first article sir. I am extending my heartfelt thanks to you for reviewing it, advising me, and above all your expert editing ..Really you have spared much of your valuable time. Thank you very much once again.. regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmantha (talk • contribs) 22:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry
Hi, I see you’ve removed my attemp at rickrolling the Teahouse. I thought it would have made a few bored Wikipedians laugh and I only meant it as a joke, am I allowed to remove your comment or can you please remove it (I don’t want it to “smear” my history). Thank is advance — 46.1.252.226 (talk) 21:50, June 2020 (UTC)
Hi again
Hello, I’m the IP user which you blocked. I believe my IP address has changed, so go ahead and block this one too if you’d like to but I have a question. How many times did I rick roll you? If it was more than 2, all of this has been worth it. I don’t think that this is sockpuppetry but I’m no sure so I won’t be making any edits until my block has been lifted, have a good one. 46.1.251.146 (talk) 11:55, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Hamuyi
Hello, I noticed the concern you posted to Hamuyi's talk page, and I wanted to apologise for acting recklessly with my "prove your skills" offer there. I will be checking his contribs to the Simple English Wikipedia and will make sure that the time of editors there is not also wasted. Thank you, Passengerpigeon (talk) 10:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Pantothenic acid
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pantothenic acid you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HaEr48 -- HaEr48 (talk) 02:40, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Pantothenic acid
The article Pantothenic acid you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Pantothenic acid for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HaEr48 -- HaEr48 (talk) 05:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Membership renewal
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You have been a member of Wiki Project Med Foundation (WPMEDF) in the past. Your membership, however, appears to have expired. As such this is a friendly reminder encouraging you to officially rejoin WPMEDF. There are no associated costs. Membership gives you the right to vote in elections for the board. The current membership round ends in 2020.
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Thanks again :-) The team at Wiki Project Med Foundation---Avicenno (talk) 05:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
You're a 'Featured Host'
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Hi David. You may have seen this announcement that all the 'Featured Hosts' - whose names and pictures randomly cycle round in the Teahouse Header - have just been updated.
As you are currently one of the 29 most active editors at WP:TH, your name and an image has now replaced that of an inactive host. But because you haven't yet added yourself to the full list of active hosts, I have simply used the default image of a cup of green tea. It would be great if you would now do two things:
- Check or change the 'featured host' image allocated to you. Edit it at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host/Featured/9, or undo my changes if you don't wish to be 'featured'.
- Create a 'host profile' for yourself, and choose a relevant picture - click the 'Experienced editor?' button in the TH Header to formally sign up to create a separate entry on the full list of all 89 current hosts which new editors can view.
Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:30, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
- Nick - Honored by the invite, as I initially got to Teahouse as a questioner, evolved to a kibbitzer. I think I completed both tasks successfully. David notMD (talk) 11:37, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hi David, thanks so much for your edits on the page Sano Genetics, I was wondering if you had any more suggestions to make it conform to Wikipedia standards, or whether it is good enough yet to submit for review? I want to make sure the page is as good as possible before I submit, and any help would be really appreciated! Either way, thanks and all the best - Clarealev (talk) 08:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Clarealev: First, kudos for declaring your paid relationship. Current link is Draft:Sano Genetics. In general, my opinion is that it is {{WP:TOOSOON]] for Sano to be a subject of a Wikipedia article. A quick internet search found little about Sano that was not created by Sano. Interviews are not considered valid references (your ref #1). Mention of Heterogeneous should be deleted from the text and Info box. The entire Funding section should be deleted - funding does not convey notability. Ditto delete Podcast section - what a company says about itself has no weight. If these deletion recommendations are followed, there is not enough 'there' there to merit an article. You may choose to submit, but I bet it will be declined. There are options to self-delete the draft (not really needed, it will never show up on search engines), or let it go fallow and you will get a should-this-be-deleted notice in about six months. David notMD (talk) 13:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- @David notMD: Thanks for your advice on this, it's been really helpful. I'll wait for more to be published about the company and hopefully there will be enough to meet Wiki's notability criteria then. As a sidenote, why do you think the mention of Heterogeneous should be deleted? And if you have any other advice it'd take it on gladly! Hope you have a great day. - Clarealev (talk) 15:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Hydrogen Water
TarnavaA looks like a real name. Google shows one Alex Tarnava who is CEO of a company selling - you guessed it! - hydrogen water. i wonder if they are, by any chance, related? Guy (Help!) 01:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- @JzG: @TarnavaA: TarnavaA has a declared COI, and thus has stopped editing the article directly. I do not have a COI. What I do have is a PhD in Nutritional Biochemistry from MIT and a long career in dietary supplement science. I am retired, and do not have a COI. Even when I was consulting to DS companies, none of them ever sold hydrogen water. The review references I re-added to the article meet WP:MEDRS. David notMD (talk) 11:55, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
...and are probably fine in the context of a discussion of how there are a few small studies that are not yet conclusive. That wasn't what the hydrogen water shill wanted though. Guy (Help!) 12:26, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, but does not get until the science gets a lot better. In the past I have cut some of the dietary supplement articles by a third or more because company representatives and well-meaning non-scientists get too enthusiastic. When I was consulting, my nickname was "Dr. No." as in "No, you can't say that." David notMD (talk) 13:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Guy, I find your insinuations quite troubling. I never once asked for anything other than what David wrote, a balanced article using the literature reviews not poorly written pop science articles.To clarify I didn't ever make any direct edits, and in my first post declared a COI, and put it on my user page, so it was up front to anyone I was corresponding with. I criticized you, Guy, for a poorly written stub when a proper and accurate enough article was written. You also seem to think that because I am from industry, I cannot be partial.. the fact is, I am more reserved in my positions and more partial than many of the public researchers in the field which I correspond with weekly (or other fields). To clarify on partiality, I do not need this field to succeed, I am thoroughly interested by it and left a more profitable business to pursue it. Many Professors "need" their research to succeed, across all fields. I routinely put out very cautious positions on the science, for my audience, and share and attempt to scale back claims for all using my IP (the tablet industry using my IP greatly eclipses the ready to drink category in North America). Here are some examples:
https://drinkhrw.com/blogs/news/hydrogen-and-skepticism https://drinkhrw.com/blogs/news/nafld https://drinkhrw.com/blogs/news/h2-concussion-recovery
TarnavaA (talk)TarnavaA —Preceding undated comment added 22:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Machinexa
Hmm adding from ncbi seems to trigger wp:merds
Ok anyways I don't understand those Wikipedia merds or anything else. I got it. I also added nicotine effect on endocrine system. Like it raise this hormone and that. Is that a merds Machinexa (talk) 17:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Issue there, is was it a review of human studies? If animal work, does not qualify as a medical reliable source reference. David notMD (talk) 20:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Also how is merd applicable to nicotine but not other
How is something a merd and something not a merd? Machinexa (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hey bro I also included secondary source and primary source (written by doctor themselves) Machinexa (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Also I included effect on endocrine system which isn't medicinal related still it got removed Machinexa (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Nicotine
Is this a merd too ?????"Nicotine also impacts lot of hormones. It raises cortisol, prolactin, LH while it decreases FSH and testosterone. [145]. However another study shows it increase testosterone levels[146]. It also increases GH levels.[147] Nicotine decreases glucagon and insulin levels which in long term increase insulin sensitivity.[148] Nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor which decreases estrogen[149]" you also removed this , its not medicinal its only effect on endocrine system you removed this too.
Nicotine also impacts lot of hormones. It raises cortisol, prolactin, LH while it decreases FSH and testosterone. [145]. However another study shows it increase testosterone levels[146]. It also increases GH levels.[147] Nicotine decreases glucagon and insulin levels which in long term increase insulin sensitivity.[148] Nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor which decreases estrogen[149] Is this a merd?
NCBI, also referred to as PubMed and the Library of Medicine, lists all science published in journals, including journals with a poor reputation. Wikipedia has a policy described at WP:MEDRS to limit what can be cited to review articles published in reputable journals. Hence, not cell studies, animal studies, or sadly, not individual human trials. This makes Wikipedia a trailing indicator of what is going on in science. Some articles will have a Research section at the bottom, where less-than-solid research can be presented. David notMD (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
So, from now on how many references make a point strong and not a merd. Will more than or equal to 4 reference do the job?
Hey bro i mentioned about nicotine maybe useful to treat some disease like narcolepsy, parkinsons, adhd etc. If you like you could move that to `==Research==` coz nicotine/ nicotinic agonist are currently being researched. In that way it wont sound medicinal but being researched.
Place to add chemical composition?
What is optimum place to add chemical composition ? Plant? Animal? Anywhere else? Machinexa (talk) 05:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
I don't know why it's displaying "https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/240243/" Machinexa (talk) 05:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Also sign : Machinexa (talk) 05:03, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
By bare url you mean not having { {cite} }thing right Machinexa (talk) 05:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
I m going to add more chem constituents in more plant but I don't know it's right to add or now. How do I know? Machinexa (talk) 05:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Please stop adding plant constituents. Plants contain hundreds of compounds. Listing them, even a partial list, even a list limited to compounds that have an existing Wikipedia article (hence a blue Wikilink) does not contribute to the value of the articles. An exception: if the compound(s) in question have health effects attributed to them can consider presenting that evidence (referenced), but not as a list without content about those effects. David notMD (talk) 11:31, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Ok Machinexa (talk) 15:46, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Ok so I searched about it. I got a lot of wikipedia pages and found out that lot of chemical composition in lot of pages without even describing their medical properties. Asparagus_racemosus Dioscorea_composita I know that adding all the compounds can bring a such a list that can never end. I from now on will try to add alkaloid content only will that be right? Coz alkaloids MOSTLY are either extremely medicinal / extremely toxic. Will that be okay.
Machinexa (talk) 16:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Also one more benefit of creating chemical composition with [ [ ]] boxes is that we know that it doesn't exist as it's highlighted in red. So that way I created lot of pages like vobtusine and voacamine. I mean when I see a wiki page in 2019 having some compound as red I search but find no article to create new page. I look again at wiki INSTEAD of going to pdf then looking each of them whether they exist or not in wiki then adding them in 2020. Now I find article and I create that page. So yes it may add value Machinexa (talk) 16:06, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Not voacamine but lot of 'vo' starting compounds Machinexa (talk) 16:11, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Btw why did u decrease [[ ]] boxes in tabernaemontana divaricata Machinexa (talk) 16:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC) Because these were red Wikilinks which I believed would never become articles. If you create such articles, then you can make the compound names blue Wikilinks. David notMD (talk) 16:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Is it a merd too?
See vobasine A mixture of the HCl salts of this with Vobasine and Ochropamine is stated to have an anti-inflammatory, antipyretic and analgesic effect comparable with acetylsalicyclic acid (aspirin) but not stuided and maybe false.[3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machinexa (talk • contribs) 17:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Content deleted. David notMD (talk) 22:38, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Why did u remove this
I told scientist have found that it could be as effective as morphine and thus text data the same. " Their results showed it to be a very effective analgesic - almost as effective as morphine. " Now how did you know its not supported by reference Machinexa (talk) 06:30, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
First read this : The team then tested whether conolidine had an effect on pain by carrying out accepted studies on laboratory rats. Their results showed it to be a very effective analgesic - almost as effective as morphine Machinexa (talk) 06:31, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
From https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2011/05/23/3224191.htm Machinexa (talk) 06:31, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Should I revert the change Machinexa (talk) 06:32, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Also I used the word 'may' because it tested on rat not human . So maybe it's possible on human. Also Is it merds Machinexa (talk) 06:33, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry not 'may' but claimed Machinexa (talk) 06:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Should have changed to may Machinexa (talk) 06:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Signed: Machinexa (talk) 06:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
The statement should be under = =research = = topic and the statement should be like. "It has analgesic activity almost equivalent to morhine in rats. Further test on human is necessary" Machinexa (talk) 06:37, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
I like signing: Machinexa (talk) 06:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 06:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 06:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Also for Phlaris aquatics I mistakenly deleted it Machinexa (talk) 06:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry Machinexa (talk) 06:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Again, the standard for evidence in WP:MEDRS does not allow animal research. Thus, cannot speculate that results in rats may be possible in humans. Cannot state that because something worked in rats there should be testing in humans. David notMD (talk) 11:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Ok Machinexa (talk) 15:44, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Should I revert the toxicity
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/964998192 The toxicity on tabernaemontana divaricata page doesn't contain about toxicity but still contains a valuable data so shouldn't be deleted I guess Machinexa (talk) 19:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
What about chemical composition and sources section
What about chemical composition and sources section? What about them . From now on i only make new page. ONlY ADD alkaloid content in chemical composition and plant /animal sources of chemicals. Is that okay? From now on no MERD, no shit. Also when 1000 people are tested in internet-advertisement based for some substance is it MERD?
- An internet advertisement claiming that people used a substance and had a health benefit does not qualify as a reliable source for medical referencing. David notMD (talk) 08:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Does WP:MERDS apply for research?
Ok so when you hear `==research==` section the first thing in you mind comes that research is going on (and not proven). So is it possible to apply in-vitro study in `==Research==` section. Like Coronaridine has acetylcholinesterase activity in-vitro which is medical if given in pharmacology. However author often say things like `further study are needed` and other stuff. So can i put those stuff in research coz research is a place where people see and find research is going on OR research must be done. like Donepezil research is going on in Lewy body dementia but that doesnt mean Donepezil treats lewy body dementia. In same way if i put Coronaridine may inhibit AChE , doest mean it inhibits in Human and thus in no way related to medicine (and free from WP:MERDS) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machinexa (talk • contribs) 08:16, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 08:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 08:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 08:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- I personally limit content I add to "Research" that is supported by at least one good human trial, perhaps more than one, but lacking a published review of multiple trials. That means not doing so if the only evidence is animal work or in vitro. A major flaw of in vitro evidence is that cells in culture are exposed to chemical compounds that would never reach those cells because of absence of absorption after oral consumption, or else same chemical compounds, absorbed, are quickly metabolically converted into other compounds in the intestinal cells or liver. David notMD (talk) 11:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Adding human trials in research section
So my links look like this :
Currently, escitalopram is being researched for sleep
- cite journal |vauthors=Ensrud KE, Joffe H, Guthrie KA, Larson JC, Reed SD, Newton KM, Sternfeld B, Lacroix AZ, Landis CA, Woods NF, Freeman EW |title=Effect of escitalopram on insomnia symptoms and subjective sleep quality in healthy perimenopausal and postmenopausal women with hot flashes: a randomized controlled trial |journal=Menopause |volume=19 |issue=8 |pages=848–55 |date=August 2012 |pmid=22433978 |pmc=3382013 |doi=10.1097/gme.0b013e3182476099 |url=
- cite journal |vauthors=Quartini A, Anastasia A, Bersani FS, Melcore C, Albano G, Colletti C, Valeriani G, Bersani G |title=Changes in dream experience in relation with antidepressant escitalopram treatment in depressed female patients: a preliminary study |journal=Riv Psichiatr |volume=49 |issue=4 |pages=187–91 |date=2014 |pmid=25174696 |doi=10.1708/1600.17460 |url=
- cite journal |vauthors=Lader M, Andersen HF, Baekdal T |title=The effect of escitalopram on sleep problems in depressed patients |journal=Hum Psychopharmacol |volume=20 |issue=5 |pages=349–54 |date=July 2005 |pmid=15912558 |doi=10.1002/hup.694 |url=
- cite journal |vauthors=Stein DJ, Lopez AG |title=Effects of escitalopram on sleep problems in patients with major depression or generalized anxiety disorder |journal=Adv Ther |volume=28 |issue=11 |pages=1021–37 |date=November 2011 |pmid=22057726 |doi=10.1007/s12325-011-0071-8 |url=
and ... (similar citation and content).
All of them are human trials.
Do you approve this as passing WP:MERDS test and fit for `==research==` section? Also, its not a doctor's blog now but human trial
- Given Ref #4 (Stein) is a review of multiple trials, use only that one, and incorporate into the article proper rather than in a 'Research' section. David notMD (talk) 20:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hey bro
Page:Nyctanthes_arbor-tristis#Chemical_constituents
I found a chemical constituent of entirely a list, as you told before i now only try to add chemical composition of alkaloids but see here its entirely a list without even describing anything medicinal or other. Anyways i wanted to make list like that in every plant, in every animal, in every page if i can PS: The list is awesome
Machinexa (talk) 13:27, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Machinexa (talk) 13:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Also See this
``` Extracts of the seeds, flowers and leaves possess immunostimulant, hepatoprotective, antileishmanial, antiviral and antifungal activities in vitro.[6] ```
LOL. IN VITRO AND IN PHARMACOLOGY.
Should I have the awesome feeling/right to delete it.?
And move ```The leaves have been used in Ayurvedic medicine and Homoeopathy for sciatica, arthritis, and fevers, and as a laxative.[7]``` to Traditional medicine instead of pharmacology??
Added some data about berberine
Added some data about berberine. Is it ok to add rats study along with human study. Like human study show same thing, rat study show same thing and cell study show same thing. Then is it applicable for WP:MERDS like i did in berberine page???? 09:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC) 09:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)~ Machinexa (talk) 09:39, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
I added some more clinical trail and research data
I added some more clinical trail and research data (no cell and animal study) Berberine Machinexa (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC) Machinexa (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Why doesn't individual human trial be in WP:merds
Hmm, doesn't four individual human trial satisfy it? Also for research section you told human trials are necessary. Then why delete.? Machinexa (talk) 07:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- In many instances there are many clinical trials - with varying results. For example, for glucosamine as a treatment for osteoarthritis, there are more than 50 clinical trials. Some showed a statistically significant benefit, some not. Wikipedia strongly prefers citing review that summarize the evidence rather than individual trials because an editor may select just the positive trials. In a research section it may be appropriate to state that human trials are evaluating treatment for a condition, but there cannot be a statement that the product is or may be a treatment for that condition. David notMD (talk) 09:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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- If you've got the time and interest, Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations#Biology_and_medicine is somewhat backlogged, with nominations currently sitting about 2 months before they're reviewed. Any you could take off the queue would be a big help. Stay well! Ajpolino (talk) 21:04, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Niacin
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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
You are the author of this draft and are an experienced editor. Are you aware of any reason why it should not be accepted? The redirect is not a reason, because it is merely a technical difficulty, and I know of at least two legitimate ways and at least one illegitimate way to deal with it. (However, we don't want a bean allergy to become an issue.) Are you aware of any reason why it requires further review, or should I just go ahead and move the redirect into a wasteland? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Please more the redirect into wasteland. I have every reason to believe the draft will be accepted. Thank you for addressing this. David notMD (talk) 16:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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Don't spit on the philosophy of Wikipedia and erase every contribution if it lacks something e.g. citation. Do the Citation and show the world the spirit of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doubledareyou (talk • contribs) 11:44, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- The editor who adds new content is responsible for providing a citation. Editors are not janitors to clean up your messes. David notMD (talk) 11:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I need you to help me revert or teach me further how to do this
I posted in a wiki community on how to revert this record of a link I added as a newbie on Wikipedia which was marked as spam... The link below;
I don't want this record to exist, so can you help revert it & teach me?
I really need help reverting it, as it may affect the site & I don't know the owner, its appearing on search engine when I did further check....please thanks...
- All of your additions of that website have been reverted by other editors. Do remember to 'sign' your comments on Talk pages and Teahouse by typing four of ~ at the end. David notMD (talk) 12:43, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
kindly explain
Is "essential vitamin" not a redundant tautology?
best regards,
KaiKemmann (talk) 01:35, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- No. For humans, niacin and vitamin D are vitamins, but not essential, as niacin can be synthesized from tryptophan, and vit D in skin exposed to UV radiation. For many animal species, vitamin C is not essential. David notMD (talk) 10:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining, although I feel, that the introduction of Vitamin needs to be updated accordingly.
- It is stated there "A vitamin [...] is an essential micronutrient which an organism needs [...] cannot be synthesized in the organism, either at all or not in sufficient quantities, and therefore must be obtained through the diet. Vitamin C can be synthesized by some species but not by others; it is not a vitamin in the first instance but is in the second."
- Particularly the last sentence sounds like a substance is only called a vitamin in regard of a certain species if it is essential. So by this definition vitamins should always be essential really, as they wouldn't be called vitamins otherwise.
- best regards,
- KaiKemmann (talk) 09:17, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Change if you wish and I will not revert. David notMD (talk) 09:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- You have a far better knowledge of the matter than I have. It could just as well be argued that a vitamin is always a vitamin, as long as it is essential to any mammal (or even any organism?). In this case it would make sense to make the distinction between just a "vitamin" and an "essential vitamin" depending on its effect on the species in question.
- I am thus not sure which of the two instances should be changed and I would be more comfortable if you could suggest a unified definition and maybe change one or both articles accordingly.
- many thanks,
- KaiKemmann (talk) 21:54, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Change if you wish and I will not revert. David notMD (talk) 09:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Remi Korchemny
It is not right to have BALCO scandal as a highlight and dominant topic of Remi’s page. Is that all we have to say about his currently 88 year old life? Is BALCO scandal the single most important thing we should be elaborating about? If so, let’s continue to write about it to the tiniest details. Radspeed (talk) 07:57, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher)@Radspeed: If you have information from Reliable sources about other important aspects of Remi Korchemny's life, please use them to expand the article. Thanks. PamD 08:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I did use them and was actively editing every day until today when someone decided to take everything down. Now, all that we have left is BALCO story and I will not risk all of my hard work to be eliminated again, just like that.. Radspeed (talk) 08:58, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
MEDRS violation?
Hi David,
Could you take a look at this recent edit of the Nicotine replacement therapy page and let me know if it violates WP:MEDRS? I learned about this policy via my interactions with you but I'm still not sure I understand it completely and wanted to confirm before removing it. Specifically, I am referring to the following line, under "Side effects": "Preliminary studies indicate that oral nicotine replacement therapies may lead to the endogenous formation of significant amounts of the strong carcinogen N-Nitrosonornicotine."
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicotine_replacement_therapy&oldid=971536065
Thank you! Wallnot (talk) 20:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Clearly does not meet MEDRS. Mentioning that it is a preliminary study does not absolve the fact that it is an observation in a small number of subjects in observational clinical studies. A search on N-Nitrosonornicotine and oral nicotine replacement did not find better literature. Should be reverted with Edit summary as to why. David notMD (talk) 00:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- I reverted. Thanks! Wallnot (talk) 19:24, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
MarieYolette and Teahouse
Thanks for explaining things on their talkpage. Whew, I meant well, and didn't mean to offend them! I shall be Very Careful in the future. (And steer well clear of MarieYolette, who seems a bit sensitive.) Thanks again, to both you, and Hoary. Best, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 02:02, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Consolidation of the fat article?
David - what do you think of one editor's decision to have 6-8 individual articles on fats (saturated, unsaturated, polyunsaturated, fatty acids, etc.) brought under one consolidated article? Note this occurred with a poorly formatted WP:MERGE proposal (header or discussion not correctly formatted and therefore unnoticed), with only one feedback participant, giving the proposer confidence to move ahead alone with major changes. Discussion here. Zefr (talk) 14:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Zefr I added an Oppose opinion with a reason. David notMD (talk) 14:45, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Joanne Pransky
Thank you for the helpful information. We are university students examining the validity of Wiki and bias. This page reached us because we are examing how loosely the word expert is being used. Especially since COVID-19, we need to be wary of who is the expert to listen. How is this person an expert based on the references? She is interesting but any attempt to clarify her credential, for instance, her degree is not in robotics, is erased and her references are not peer-reviewed but pop culture. Seems she may have paid a team of people to protect the page. How can our university class move to the next level of asking an editorial team to review the notability of this page? Thank you for helping us rookies!
- RobotDaneellives There is no evidence that Joanne Pransky created or even edited the article about her, nor paid someone to 'protect' it. Which, by the way, would require those editors to declare their paid status (see WP:PAID). And there are no 'editorial teams'. The article in question is already tagged as bing of dubious Wikipedia notability. The best avenue for you is to follow my advice to file an AfD. At the very least, that would be educational. See also Wikipedia:Expert editors. Wikipedia frowns on people citing their own work, but does understand the value of experts. David notMD (talk) 18:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for being the most patient and helpful editor I have ever experienced!
Thank you for your soft rebukes that are justifiable and helpful teaching. Refreshing to encounter a quality editor who is authentically concerned about the quality of Wiki articles and is a great teacher to new editors!
- You are welcome. The learning curve is always steep. I hope the members of your group consider all becoming editors to improve the quality of many articles. David notMD (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
GA noms for Vitamin K and Fish allergy
Let's make a deal – Vitamin K
I need some MEDRS help and you are looking for a GA reviewer. Can we trade services?
My MEDRS requirement is to add enough secondary reviews to Step aerobics so that the fact tags are satisfied and removed. You can see a few fact tags on the page and my thoughts expressed at Talk:Step aerobics#MEDRS compliance. What say you? Binksternet (talk) 03:09, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Answered there and on your Talk. Sadly, lots of belief, a bit of clinical trial literature, but almost nothing in useful review articles. Multiple trials measuring same thing needed to perform a meta-analysis or systematic review. David notMD (talk) 18:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for digging around. I'm beginning to see why the fitness topics on Wikipedia are such a barren desert. Binksternet (talk) 18:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- From 2004-2019 my career was expert science consultant to dietary supplement companies. Similar problem - as nothing was patentable, clinical trials if any, tended to be small. Sometimes there are multiple trials, but for different indication, so no meta-analysis possible. There are exceptions - glucosamine or chondroitin for osteoarthritis, for example. Within exercise, there are meta-analyses for weight loss, cardiovascular disease, osteoporosis, cancer, all-cause mortality, etc. (see PMID: 31685526). David notMD (talk) 22:09, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for digging around. I'm beginning to see why the fitness topics on Wikipedia are such a barren desert. Binksternet (talk) 18:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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DYK for Fish allergy
On 4 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fish allergy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that people with fish allergy are unlikely to be allergic to shellfish, because fish and shellfish do not have the same allergenic protein? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fish allergy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fish allergy), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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GA noms for Biotin, Shellfish allergy, Vitamin B6 and Riboflavin
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Biotin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HaEr48 -- HaEr48 (talk) 22:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
The article Biotin you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Biotin for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HaEr48 -- HaEr48 (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Biotin
On 4 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Biotin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that biotin has been proven to benefit hoof health in cattle and horses, but evidence for human nail health is very weak? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Biotin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Biotin), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Shellfish allergy
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Shellfish allergy you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CommanderWaterford -- CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:41, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Shellfish allergy
The article Shellfish allergy you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Shellfish allergy for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CommanderWaterford -- CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Shellfish allergy
The article Shellfish allergy you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Shellfish allergy for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CommanderWaterford -- CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Vitamin B6
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Vitamin B6 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Esculenta -- Esculenta (talk) 19:00, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Vitamin B6
The article Vitamin B6 you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Vitamin B6 for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Esculenta -- Esculenta (talk) 23:01, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Vitamin B6
The article Vitamin B6 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Vitamin B6 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Psi?edelisto -- Psi?edelisto (talk) 23:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Riboflavin
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Riboflavin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RoySmith -- RoySmith (talk) 21:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Riboflavin
The article Riboflavin you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Riboflavin for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RoySmith -- RoySmith (talk) 19:00, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
- RoySmith I just finished addressing the first set of comments. David notMD (talk) 19:04, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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