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Nomination of Brendan Kennedy (businessman) for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brendan Kennedy (businessman) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Deltagammaz (talk) 16:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Richard Sharp (BBC chairman)
On 8 February 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Richard Sharp (BBC chairman), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the new chairman of the BBC has a twin sister who is a leading judge? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Richard Sharp (BBC chairman). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Richard Sharp (BBC chairman)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Wikipedia app for Android now has watchlists and talk pages in the app. [1]
Changes later this week
- You can see edits to chosen pages on Special:Watchlist. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The GlobalWatchlist extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on Special:GlobalWatchlist on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis. [2]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).
Future changes
- When admins protect pages the form will use the OOUI look. Special:Import will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones. [3][4]
- Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [5]
Last week Tech News reported that the IP address Cloud VPS and Toolforge use to contact the wikis will change on 8 February. This is delayed. It will happen later instead. [6]
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17:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: January 2021
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Lionel Godfrey Pearson and William Winstanley Pearson
Hello. It has been a while since we talked (we met many years ago). I hope all is well. I think Lionel Godfrey Pearson and William Winstanley Pearson are brothers. Please see Talk:Lionel Pearson and see if you agree. I am asking because you created the Lionel Godfrey Pearson article. Thank you. Carcharoth (talk) 14:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- There were problems with recent versions of MediaWiki. Because the updates caused problems the developers rolled back to an earlier version. Some updates and new functions will come later than planned. [7][8]
- Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance. [9]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).
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17:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Encounter (2018 film) for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Encounter (2018 film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
CUPIDICAE💕 23:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The visual editor will now use MediaSearch to find images. You can search for images on Commons in the visual editor when you are looking for illustrations. This is to help editors find better images. [10]
The syntax highlighter now works with more languages: Futhark, Graphviz/DOT, CDDL and AMDGPU. [11]
Problems
- Editing a timeline might have removed all text from it. This was because of a bug and has been fixed. You might need to edit the timeline again for it to show properly. [12]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 February. It will be on all wikis from 25 February (calendar).
Future changes
There is a user group for developers and users interested in working on Wikimedia wikis with the Rust programming language. You can join or tell others who want to make your wiki better in the future.
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00:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Heinz Hermann Thiele
On 24 February 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Heinz Hermann Thiele, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 15:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
March 2021 at Women in Red
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The Signpost: 28 February 2021
- News and notes: Maher stepping down
- Disinformation report: A "billionaire battle" on Wikipedia: Sex, lies, and video
- In the media: Corporate influence at OSM, Fox watching the hen house
- News from the WMF: Who tells your story on Wikipedia
- Featured content: A Love of Knowledge, for Valentine's Day
- Traffic report: Does it almost feel like you've been here before?
- Gallery: What is Black history and culture?
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikis using the Growth team tools can now show the name of a newcomer's mentor anywhere through a magic word. This can be used for welcome messages or userboxes.
- A new version of the VideoCutTool is now available. It enables cropping, trimming, audio disabling, and rotating video content. It is being created as part of the developer outreach programs.
Problems
- There was a problem with the job queue. This meant some functions did not save changes and mass messages were delayed. This did not affect wiki edits. [13]
- Some editors may not be logged in to their accounts automatically in the latest versions of Firefox and Safari. [14]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 March. It will be on all wikis from 4 March (calendar).
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19:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
DYK for John Lockhart-Mummery
On 6 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Lockhart-Mummery, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that John Lockhart-Mummery was the king of the rectum? You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Lockhart-Mummery), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Category:Chan family has been nominated for deletion
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Category:Chan family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Section translation now works on Bengali Wikipedia. It helps mobile editors translate sections of articles. It will come to more wikis later. The first focus is active wikis with a smaller number of articles. You can test it and leave feedback.
- Flagged revisions now give admins the review right. [15]
- When someone links to a Wikipedia article on Twitter this will now show a preview of the article. [16]
Problems
- Many graphs have JavaScript errors. Graph editors can check their graphs in their browser's developer console after editing. [17]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 March. It will be on all wikis from 11 March (calendar).
- The New Discussion tool will soon be a new discussion tools beta feature for on most Wikipedias. The goal is to make it easier to start new discussions. [18]
Future changes
- There will be a number of changes to make it easier to work with templates. Some will come to the first wikis in March. Other changes will come to the first wikis in June. This is both for those who use templates and those who create or maintain them. You can read more.
- Reference Previews will become a default feature on some wikis on 17 March. They will share a setting with Page Previews. If you prefer the Reference Tooltips or Navigation-Popups gadget you can keep using them. If so Reference Previews won't be shown. [19][20]
- New JavaScript-based functions will not work in Internet Explorer 11. This is because Internet Explorer is an old browser that doesn't work with how JavaScript is written today. Everything that works in Internet Explorer 11 today will continue working in Internet Explorer for now. You can read more.
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17:50, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Richard Sharp (BBC chairman) etc
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For some excellent biographical articles relating to businessmen. Great job! Dormskirk (talk) 15:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC) |
This Month in GLAM: February 2021
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The article Christmas Manger has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Non notable film, tagged since 2018. Seems to fail WP:NFILM
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Donaldd23 (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikis that are part of the desktop improvements project can now use a new search function. The desktop improvements and the new search will come to more wikis later. You can also test it early.
Editors who put up banners or change site-wide JavaScript code should use the client error graph to see that their changes has not caused problems. You can read more. [21]
Problems
- Due to database issues the Wikimedia Beta Cluster was read-only for over a day.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 March. It will be on all wikis from 18 March (calendar).
Future changes
- You can add a newline or carriage return character to a custom signature if you use a template. There is a proposal to not allow them in the future. This is because they can cause formatting problems. [22][23]
- You will be able to read but not edit 12 wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.
You can use Quarry for SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas. Cross-database
JOINS
will no longer work from 23 March. There will be a new field to specify the database to connect to. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. PAWS and other ways to do SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas will be affected later. [24]
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23:20, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Stephen Bechtel Jr.
On 17 March 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Stephen Bechtel Jr., which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Congratulations
Your DYK hook about rectum king John Lockhart-Mummery drew 5,655 page views (471 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of March as shown at Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics#March 2021. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 21:10, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 42
Books & Bytes
Issue 42, January – February 2021
- New partnerships: PNAS, De Gruyter, Nomos
- 1Lib1Ref
- Library Card
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. They don't have a touch screen so readers navigate with the phone keys. There is now a simulator so you can see what it looks like.
- The reply tool and new discussion tool are now available as the "Discussion tools" beta feature in almost all wikis except German Wikipedia.
Problems
- You will be able to read but not edit twelve wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This can also affect password changes, logging in to new wikis, global renames and changing or confirming emails. This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 March. It will be on all wikis from 25 March (calendar).
- Syntax highlighting colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the first wikis. [25]
Future changes
- Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain. [26][27]
Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from
wg*
tomw.config
.wg*
will soon no longer work. [28]
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16:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
April editathons from Women in Red
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The Signpost: 28 March 2021
- News and notes: A future with a for-profit subsidiary?
- Gallery: Wiki Loves Monuments
- In the media: Wikimedia LLC and disinformation in Japan
- News from the WMF: Project Rewrite: Tell the missing stories of women on Wikipedia and beyond
- Recent research: 10%-30% of Wikipedia’s contributors have subject-matter expertise
- From the archives: Google isn't responsible for Wikipedia's mistakes
- Obituary: Yoninah
- From the editor: What else can we say?
- Arbitration report: Open letter to the Board of Trustees
- Traffic report: Wanda, Meghan, Liz, Phil and Zack
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some very old web browsers don’t work well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. [29]
IRC recent changes feeds have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to
irc.wikimedia.org
and not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern EventStreams. [30]
Problems
- When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. [31]
- Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this. [32][33]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 March. It will be on all wikis from 1 April (calendar).
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17:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Alligator Rainwear
On 1 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alligator Rainwear, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an Alligator in PVC made Mary Quant look wet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alligator Rainwear. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alligator Rainwear), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first. [34]
Changes later this week
The citoid API will use for example
2010-12-XX
instead of2010-12
for dates with a month but no days. This is because2010-12
could be confused with2010-2012
instead ofDecember 2010
. This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the Extended Date/Time Format. [35]The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 April. It will be on all wikis from 8 April (calendar).
Future changes
PAWS can now connect to the new Wiki Replicas. Cross-database
JOINS
will no longer work from 28 April. There is a new way to connect to the databases. Until 28 April both ways to connect to the databases will work. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech.
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19:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
New message from Narutolovehinata5
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Message added 09:41, 9 April 2021 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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This Month in GLAM: March 2021
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DYK for Spare Time (film)
On 15 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Spare Time (film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Humphrey Jennings's 1939 film Spare Time showed an American audience how the British working classes spent their free time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Spare Time (film). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Spare Time (film)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Email to the Wikimedia wikis are handled by groups of Wikimedia editors. These volunteer response teams now use Znuny instead of OTRS. The functions and interface remain the same. The volunteer administrators will give more details about the next steps soon. [36][37]
- If you use syntax highlighting, you can see line numbers in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors when editing templates. This is to make it easier to see line breaks or talk about specific lines. Line numbers will soon come to all namespaces. [38][39][40]
Because of a technical change there could be problems with gadgets and scripts that have an edit summary area that looks similar to this one. If they look strange they should use
mw.loader.using('mediawiki.action.edit.styles')
to go back to how they looked before. [41]- The latest version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis last week. There was no Tech News issue last week.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- The user group
oversight
will be renamedsuppress
. This is for technical reasons. This is the technical name. It doesn't affect what you call the editors with this user right on your wiki. This is planned to happen in two weeks. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
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16:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Brian Rose (podcaster) for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Rose (podcaster) (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Slatersteven (talk) 10:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Yo Ho Ho
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ϢereSpielChequers is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.
- Thank you Jonathan. Looks like I need to post a dated reply to get this to move into the archive. Edwardx (talk) 10:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Request for help on article Steven Schuurman
Hello EdwardX, I saw you created this article about Lesley_Bamberger. I am also writing about a Dutch billionaire, Steven Schuurman, and I was wondering if you would be willing to weigh in on the discussion[[42]] about the article's deletion. No worries if not! Thank you for all your work on wikipedia Bartholomeus1613 (talk) 11:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Edwardx.
I noticed that you removed Chief Adenuga's pre-nominal honorific. As it was supported by the cited reference, I was somewhat perplexed. Might I trouble you and enquire why you did so?
O.ominirabluejack (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- O.ominirabluejack The sourcing is not great, as the cited article is hardly neutral, rather a gushing hagiography. For example: "As a faithful servant, an engaging entrepreneur, a passionate philanthropist, a dedicated realist and reformer, who can bridge all gulfs, level all mountains and put a lamp in every tunnel, as exemplified by his selfless services to Nigeria ..." But many BLPs have far more serious issues, so I will not seek to remove it again. Edwardx (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Hmmmm... I see your point. I will endeavor to find a replacement that is more neutral. Thanks for responding. O.ominirabluejack (talk) 11:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Lubov Chernukhin
Hi Edward,
You removed the link section between Chernukhin and Alexander Temerko and Viktor Fedotov. Without it the following three paragraphs make no sense. The connection between the three (directors of the same company) is important as (per the quote by The Times' Edward Lucas in the subsequent section and the quote from the Parliamentary Russia Report) there is concern as to an number of people, in particular but not solely Chernukhin.
If you tell me what the problem is I can fix it, but as you reverted it the article did not make sense.
Best
Kendalandrew (talk) 16:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Kendalandrew I am not the first editor to have reverted your addition of such content to our article on Lubov Chernukhin. And if you want to discuss it with me, why have you re-added it without waiting for a response? Anyway, please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. The second para states "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." I have removed your uncited content accordingly. I am also copying this to Talk:Lubov Chernukhin as others may wish to contribute. Edwardx (talk) 16:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Edwardx: had no idea what I stumbled upon. Maybe I am not assuming good faith here, but it looks like Kendalandrew may not be here to improve Wikipedia. Rather, it appears to me that they are on a crusade to villify the Chernukhins (whom I have never even heard of until 30 minutes ago). So many policy violations... most notably WP:NOT with cherrypicked quotes and the list of donations. They appear to be in the news and notable, but the content the user doesn't seem neutral to me. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 19:27, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- PerpetuityGrat Thank you. I had not heard of the Chernukhins until maybe yesterday. Probably Lubov was linked to from an article on my watchlist ("Your notices"), but I cannot recall. I think User:Kendalandrew is rather overzealous, and like many new editors eager to run before they have learnt how to walk through the seemingly endless maze of policies. Fortunately, there appear to be several experienced editors keeping an eye on this stuff now. For the present, I think we should follow the advice in WP:AGF, although WP:CIR may apply before too long. Edwardx (talk) 20:19, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Edwardx: had no idea what I stumbled upon. Maybe I am not assuming good faith here, but it looks like Kendalandrew may not be here to improve Wikipedia. Rather, it appears to me that they are on a crusade to villify the Chernukhins (whom I have never even heard of until 30 minutes ago). So many policy violations... most notably WP:NOT with cherrypicked quotes and the list of donations. They appear to be in the news and notable, but the content the user doesn't seem neutral to me. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 19:27, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Please watch a page you contributed to...
Could you please watch Lukas Walton for an IP. That person may be a newbie or a POV-pusher. I do not know. But, the person puts fake documents in the web page. We may need to lock it for editing, since there have been problems with IPs editing the page with wrong information. nepaxt 02:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nepaxt, if I start a page, it stays on my watchlist. Presumably it is the PDF that you believe to be fake. Why do you think that is the case? Looking at the homepage of 990 Finder, it is part of Candid, which is a well-established US nonprofit "information service specializing in reporting on U.S. nonprofit companies". However, such primary source documents raise concerns as set out in WP:BLPPRIMARY. As that policy states, "Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies."
- I cannot access the susbscription-only Crain's (chicagobusiness.com) articles directly, but by typing "samantha lukas walton builders initiative" into a search engine (Google), one can see extracts "She's listed as an equal to Walton in Builders Initiative filings." and "and now heading his own foundation called the Builders Initiative". And with "samantha lukas walton", we get "It is said that Walton met his wife, Samantha, on the Blue Line to O'Hare International Airport". It is clear from articles in a reliable source that Lukas Walton is married to Samantha, and that they co-head Builders Initiative, a foundation.
- Can we include "Baiz" (presumably her maiden name)? The only vaguely suitable source I can find is Candid Candace, "Additional notable guests included Amy and Andy Bluhm, Penny Pritzker and Bryan Traubert, Maria Pinto, Lukas Walton and Samantha Baiz Walton..." As the URL states, it is her personal blog, and the Chicago Tribune staff page, for whom she writes a weekly column, confirms this. WP:SPS sets out how self-published material can only be used in limited circumstances, and this does not appear to meet that standard.
- Therefore with exception of "Baiz", I think we can reinstate the IP editor's additions, including the primary source, as it could be seen to "augment the secondary source". Are you okay with this reinstatement and my copying all this to Talk:Lukas Walton, as that is the better location for any future discussion of such matters? Edwardx (talk) 12:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Nepaxt, as the IP editor has reverted you again, I have copied this to Talk:Lukas Walton, and dropped "Baiz" from their edit. Edwardx (talk) 10:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Aşure for you
Aşure for you | |
Believe me, this is the SWEETEST thing in the world. V. E. (talk) 18:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you, V. E. Many years ago, I enjoyed aşure in Doğubayazıt, close to Mount Ararat itself. Edwardx (talk) 19:06, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Assistance with new article related to previously published subject - Jack Tilton
Hello Edward -
I was hoping you could potentially offer your advice on help with an article I created on a gallery once owned by Jack Tilton. The article is being rejected as a promotional puff piece as I am a new user and I am looking to get assistance on improving it and increasing the chances that it could be approved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roberts_Projects
Thanks very much for your time, Ashley
Ashsnomac (talk) 19:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ashsnomac. Yes, I did start the article on Jack Tilton, who had a NYT obit, and so is notable in Wikipedia terms. I am sceptical as to whether that is the case for this gallery - where is the independent in-depth coverage? You have ref-bombed the article, but it does not look to amount to much. And you are being paid to write this, so as an unpaid volunteer, I will respectfully decline. Edwardx (talk) 19:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
many thanks for your prompt reply - I can understand your hesitancy. The gallery is notable in Wikipedia terms in its contribution to artist careers and the history of contemporary art in California. If you think of any other ways I can improve the article please let me know. best, Ashley Ashsnomac (talk) 20:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
"Claire Tran" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Claire Tran. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 11#Claire Tran until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Hélène Arpels
On 13 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hélène Arpels, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that model and shoe designer Hélène Arpels believed that "diamonds go with everything"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hélène Arpels. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hélène Arpels), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.