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GOCE March drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graphs Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far. Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers. Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Farmiga

The article says she was born in USA and nowhere discusses her Ukrainian citizenship. Yes, her parents were Ukrainian, but she is not. --BwB (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

The category is not just about citizenship, it is for ethnicity too. This category lists notable people born in Ukraine; who are of Ukrainian descent, or who have a Ukrainian background. Category:Ukrainian people Elizium23 (talk) 20:32, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

There we go again

They are back,... User_talk:Succursu .... History2007 (talk) 21:59, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Do you want to file the report, or shall I? Elizium23 (talk) 02:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

For your correction of my recent addition to Cardinal (Bishop?) Lori's page. Proving he has not replied is of course impossible. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 13:05, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

GOCE March copy edit drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their March 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on March 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on March 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goal for the drive will be to eliminate the remaining 2010 articles from the queue. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, Stfg, and Coordinator emeritus SMasters. 19:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC) >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Has gotten

Grammatical beauty is in the eye of the beholder: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gotten?q=gotten Jbening (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Safe House (2012 film)

Please tell me what is wrong with this edit, for which you issued a warning to me. Canuckian89 (talk · contribs) changed date formats in number of articles, although the format before his change was perfectly acceptable. In fact, he was cautioned about it. 71.50.99.0 (talk) 21:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

While using an edit summary would have helped me understand why you did it, I can see the case for either point of view. I have retracted my warning. Elizium23 (talk) 21:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the revisions on Our Lady of Akita. I added a section on MiracleHunter to the talk page. Oct13 (talk) 05:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

GOCE March drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graph Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! This is the most successful drive we have had for quite a while. Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter. Participation Of the 70 people who signed up for this drive, 40 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Special acknowledgement goes out to Lfstevens, who did over 200 articles, most of them in the last third of the drive, and topped all three leaderboard categories. You're a superstar! Stfg and others have been pre-checking the articles for quality and conformance to Wikipedia guidelines; some have been nominated for deletion or had some preliminary clean-up done to help make the copy-edit process more fun and appealing. Thanks to all who helped get those nasty last few articles out of the target months. Progress report During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—October, November, and December 2010—from the queue, and have now eliminated all the 2010 articles from our list. We were able to complete 500 articles this month! End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy-editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy-editing at this time for other reasons. The {{GOCEreviewed}} tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators. Thank you for participating in the March 2012 drive! All contributions are appreciated. Our next copy-edit drive will be in May. Your drive coordinators – Dianna (Talk), Stfg (Talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. EdwardsBot (talk) 22:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Awards sections

Hello,

I saw you reverted some of my edits due to them not being in a particular "format" as other actors/actresses. Where can I find a good example of the format? For example: Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie/George Clooney/Heath Ledger are all completely different. I would be more than happy to comply to it if there is one but I couldn't find one so that's why I did it the way I did. I also posted this in WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers talk page as well. B2project (talk) 03:49, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

My main objection to this edit, for example, is that it makes a very large table in proportion to the number of entries in it. Just about every single entry is preceded by the same redundant column headings. If you could reduce that noise in the table, I think it would be perfectly fine. Elizium23 (talk) 17:28, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Our Lady of Akita

Hello,

I looked at the article, but it looks the same as before the reversions.

Anyway, I took out Position of the Church, since it didn't have good references.

Oct13 (talk) 23:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Priority ratings

Basically, these more or less aren't by my choice. I consulted the Lindsay Jones' Encyclopedia of Religion some time ago, and wrote down all the articles which that source includes in the "Christian" section of the synoptic outline. My thinking is basically that the Jones encyclopedia is probably one of the most reliable sources on most religions, and that any articles it includes as relevant to a give faith are probably among the most important articles to both religion, and the specific religion of the individual involved. Personally, I know nothing about some of these topics myself, and myself seriously question some others, but, basically, I'm not sure that this should be my call. The full lit of the articles is at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard/Archive 7#Possible top-priority articles. With luck, when I'm done here, I'll go on to the other faiths, and, maybe, the philosophy project, based on similar sources.

I'm guessing the philosophers who aren't really theologians might have been included based on their being the most prominent Christian philosophers, but don't actually know that. But there do seem to be several included in the book who are, basically, "leaders" in some area of general activity, like education, fiction, visual arts, and the like. Regarding Leo and some of the other leading Christians, I'm guessing that those bios are in some way counted as being people who have had particularly important contributions, but, again, would have to check the Jones book itself first. John Carter (talk) 00:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see they've been discussed then. The presence of that discussion slipped my mind. Apologies, and carry on! Elizium23 (talk) 00:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Editing

I didn't mean to do any disruptive editing. All I did was update the years under her career section and remove two pictures since it was taking over her page. You can let me know how that's an issue--Trishstar7 (talk) 00:38, 22 April 2012 (UTC).

I disagree about the images: it is a good thing to have a large pool of freely licensed images to illustrate a biography of a living person. If you think there are too many then we can try to reach consensus on the talk page. I don't know about the headings; that is pretty minor stuff, but using an edit summary will do wonders for the acceptance of your work. Elizium23 (talk) 00:44, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May copy edit drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their May 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goal for the drive will be to eliminate January, February, and March 2011 from the queue. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. EdwardsBot (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist changes (again)

Hi. Thanks for the idiot's guide to CSS. I followed your instructions (including clearing the cache) but the blue triangle hasn't appeared and I'm still getting a more-or-less unusable watchlist which says things like "(7 changes)" (or, in the case of Village pump, 37 changes!).

Have you any idea what, if anything, I've done wrong or left undone, e.g. in my sub-pages? I haven't a clue about things like .js, monobook or even skins and it's not out of the question that I've missed something or messed something up. Best. --GuillaumeTell 20:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Your common.css looks correct, but it was only supposed to fix the problem with the custom cursor that didn't appear when hovering over the arrow. Your problem seems to be different, because the arrow itself doesn't appear at all. This may be a browser- or skin-related bug. Try switching to a different skin (I use Vector) and if that doesn't work for you, try viewing with a different browser (I use Chromium.) Elizium23 (talk) 21:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Warnings for factual errors.

Please note that you cannot issue warnings for "introducing factual errors". wikipedia:NOTCENSORED (unless that I am mistaken, of course). I thank you. — KC9TV 06:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Removing factual errors is not censorship. A factual error is stating, for example that someone was born in 1980 when she was actually born in 1970. Correcting factual errors is the very core of verifiability and the integrity of Wikipedia. Elizium23 (talk) 06:34, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

No, but you CANNOT issue warnings for "introducing factual errors"! NO one else does it, you see! And please, stop making accusations against each other. We are both relatively new to Wikipedia, and can we possibly help each other, please, por favor? Si us plau? Thank you. Gracious, Senyoreta. — KC9TV 06:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Of course I can issue those warnings. In fact, they are supported by prebuilt warning templates (3 levels + a redirect at 4th level) and integration into the anti-vandalism tool, Twinkle. Many editors have been blocked due to threatening the integrity of Wikipedia's facts. I think you misunderstand what a factual error is. And I don't know where you got the idea that I am a new editor. I have been here over four years, making over 12,000 edits, with zero blocks. Elizium23 (talk) 06:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

But I am sorry, I have been rude. I have used many sharp words and threatening tone. Certainly I can help you. Is there something in specific you would like help with? Elizium23 (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 49 people signed up for this drive so far, 26 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive, largely due to the efforts of Lfstevens and the others on the leaderboard. Thanks to all. We have reduced our target group of articles—January, February, and March 2011—by over half, and it looks like we will achieve that goal. Good progress is being made on the overall backlog as well, with over 500 articles copy-edited during the drive so far. The total backlog currently sits at around 3200 articles. Hall of Fame: GOCE coordinator Diannaa was awarded a spot in the GOCE Hall of Fame this month! She has copy-edited over 1567 articles during these drives, and surpassed the 1,000,000-word mark on May 5. On to the second million! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 14:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Evanna Lynch Middle Name

Hi, I updated Evanna Lynch wikipedia page, and there seems to be a on-going edit about Lynch middle name, Evanna Lynch middle name is PATRICIA. Evanna has confirmed her middle name is PATRICIA on her official facebook profile, Evanna has post her facebook website link on her official, verified twitter account. Here is official sources for everyone to look at, at the official information: Evanna Lynch official Facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Evanna-Lynch/238235589546563?sk=info Evanna Lynch official and verifeld Twitter account: https://twitter.com/#!/evy_lynch I know I am new user on wikipedia and I am still learning how wikipedia works but this information on Evanna Lynch middle name is the truth and a fact. Thank you. Hogwartsfanzone, 09:10, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Soy sauce

Regardin this: is it from first-hand experience that soy sauce is "called soya sauce in England"? Two weak primary sources do not evidence make. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:30, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

How is a dictionary reference weak? I don't care, use your favorite English dictionary and look it up, it is a common variant. Also, I had this conversation a while ago, so I searched my talk page archives, where I was challenged to come up with a single image of a soya sauce bottle label, so here you go: Soya sauce Soya sauce Soya sauce

Soya sauce Soya sauce Soya sauce Soya sauce Elizium23 (talk) 22:36, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

The dictionary reference doesn't actually mention soy sauce. It states that "soya" is synonymous with "soy", but does that mean that we have to refer to it as "soy or soya" every time it is used anywhere on the encyclopedia? A bunch of Google Image Search results don't do anything to help with that: the plural of "anecdote" is not "data". Unless there is a reliable secondary source to back this up it should be removed, as our articles are not supposed to be mere aggregations of trivial rubbish. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

sry

Sorry about the loser comment. But a bot inadvertenty deleted the talk page on that article so it was reverted. then reverted again when the damn bot did the same thing. but ur wiki stalking of me seems kinda strange. plz don't. Albert14nx05y (talk) 01:55, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't inadvertent and it wasn't deleted. That's called automatic archiving, and it happened on purpose because someone enabled it on the page. Elizium23 (talk) 04:47, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

But when I look for it, I cannot find it. Isn't there usually a button to push so one can view archieved stuff? Albert14nx05y (talk) 05:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

There is text in the header box which says "Archives: 1" and the "1" is wikilinked to the archive, which is located at Talk:Erin Andrews/Archive 1. Elizium23 (talk) 05:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for your contributions, Elizium23. SwisterTwister talk 00:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I am honored. You are welcome! I'm copying this to my userpage for posterity. Elizium23 (talk) 00:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk page clean up

Hi, I cleaned up the Josephus talk page from all the residual effects of the vandalism. I hope it does not seem like I wanted to delete your comment too, but I have found that the more we respond to these people, the more they will talk back. If you want to put your comments back please do. I also asked for page protection now. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Catholics for Choice

I would appreciate your judgement, positive or negative, on the helpfulness (or unhelpfulness) of giving a link to the section on the effects of automatic excommunication (not just to the article on automatic excommunication in general) to explain precisely what "ban" is involved. Esoglou (talk) 06:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response. Your remark on "certain sacraments" or "(all) sacraments" is perspicacious. Even the sacrament of Penance (absolution) can be administered only after the excommunication has been lifted at least provisionally (cf. canon 1357 of the Code of Canon Law). Esoglou (talk) 11:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Bishop Aquila

There was an official announcement that Bishop Aquila is being transfer to the Denver Archdiocese. According to Canon Law the Fargo Diocese is now vacant. Also Aquila will be install in July and the date has been set. This is not a crystal ball but an event that will be taken place. The Fargo Diocese has an announcement about the appointment you may want to see. Thank you-RFD (talk) 14:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

The diocese is not vacant until he is installed as the new archbishop in the new see. Can. 418 §1. Upon certain notice of transfer, a bishop must claim the diocese to which he has been transferred (ad quam) and take canonical possession of it within two months. On the day that he takes possession of the new diocese, however, the diocese from which he has been transferred (a qua) is vacant. Elizium23 (talk) 14:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your response. I had read that when a bishop is transfer or retires, he ceases to be the bishop and becomes the apostolic administrator of the diocese he is vacanting and is as such until he leaves or his sucessor takes office. Thank you again-RFD (talk) 14:51, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. And that is true. Here is the link to the Code of Canon law section: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P1H.HTM Elizium23 (talk) 14:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

What qualifies as "taking possession?" The policy on Wikipedia has been to indicate the "reign" of a bishop according to his appointment. If this needs revisiting, then a Wikipedia policy needs to be established that can be applied generally. JeremyRowbottom (talk) 18:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you cite that policy, please? Elizium23 (talk) 18:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Canon 382, §3 A Bishop takes canonical possession of his diocese when, personally or by proxy, he shows the apostolic letters to the college of consultors, in the presence of the chancellor of the curia, who makes a record of the fact. This must take place within the diocese. In dioceses which are newly established he takes possession when he communicates the same letters to the clergy and the people in the cathedral church, with the senior of the priests present making a record of the fact.

§4 It is strongly recommended that the taking of canonical possession be performed with a liturgical act in the cathedral church, in the presence of the clergy and the people.

These canons are describing an installation ceremony. Elizium23 (talk) 18:23, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Requesting another topic ban for User:BruceGrubb. Thank you. Jayjg ^(talk) 01:10, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

AWB and plainrowheaders

Hi. I have replied to you at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility/Data_tables_tutorial#WP:AWB_and_plainrowheaders. Sorry for not replying earlier, I hope this discussion is still of interest to you. If you have asked the question somewhere else, or find another answer, could you link to it? I would be interested to read it. Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 03:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Albert14nx05y

Hi Elizium23. I note that Albert14nx05y is feeling hounded by you. I've looked into it, and I don't believe you're behaving in an untoward manner, but could I request that you consider the fact that he is feeling this way in future interactions? It'd be good if we can keep the harmony. Cheers Worm^TT(talk) 17:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I would be happy to put him at ease. I have seen he makes constructive edits. I think we were just unlucky to meet at a bad time. Elizium23 (talk) 19:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

That's what I thought. I can see him being a decent editor given time and a bit more knowledge of how things work here. Thanks for such a positive response :) Worm^TT(talk) 16:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago. Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 15:27, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey

Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time,
the wub (talk) 18:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC) (Delivered using Global message delivery)

Pages

Hi, As of June 2012 I will be semi-retiring from Wikipedia. I will still watch a few pages every day or two, but not watch many pages every day as before.

Could I ask you to occasionally watch a few more pages that have good referenced content and should really be saved from vandalism, fringe views, sudden mergers, etc.? I think you already watch a few of these, but here is a list in any case:

• Holy Face of Jesus and the Shroud of Turin. The first page is totally stable and also non-controversial. The Shroud page has been extremely stable given its controversial nature. There is user:thucyd who knows much more about it, but logs in every week or two, and he has provided many solid references. Every possible angle on that object is covered in the article, but there is a user Vincenzo Ruello (he also writes on UFO items) who logs in as multiple IPs (they often get blocked) and adds promotional items. He sometimes pretends to be his own best friend, etc. So that page does need attention. But every possible aspect has been discussed in the archives, so it is just a question of pointing to those really.

• Jesus related pages. These are as follows:

• Jesus has been stable for a year and is fully referenced. I even took out referenced based on suggestions, but it is stable "because it has so many references". The last big debate was about calling Jesus Palestinian or Jewish, etc. But that is over now once it was pointed out that it was a political issue more than anything else. The magnet for debate there is the regularly scheduled talk page comment that Jesus did not really exist. That has been discussed on talk many, many times and it usually ends with the demand: "per WP:RS/AC, please provide a WP:RS source that says 'most historians hold that Jesus did not exist' instead of arguing about it here". The debate always stops after that.

• Crucifixion of Jesus: Again, pretty stable. And as above, the recurring talk page comment is that he was not crucified. And again there are clear WP:RS sources that say that 'most historians hold that Baptism and Crucifixion are beyond doubt'. And there are no WP:RS sources that say that most scholars hold the opposite. But the key issue here is not to mix these two events with other biblical episodes, for there are many historians who argue Marriage at Cana was not historical, etc. So the only two certain events that are subject to agreement are those two.

• Christ, the Ministry of Jesus and Chronology of Jesus. All three pages are highly stable and fully sourced. They just need to be watched.

• Josephus on Jesus and Tacitus on Christ as well as Annals (Tacitus). These are three historically important pages. All three are fully referenced but frequently get large scale vandalism. They do need watching. Josephus on Jesus was the subject of a really long discussion and every possible aspect of it i snow covered in the talk page archives. It has been researched in great detail and as questions come up the talk page archives almost always handle that.

• Religious perspectives on Jesus, Jesus in Christianity, Sayings of Jesus on the cross, Imitation of Christ and Love of Christ: Again, very stable pages and it is just a question of looking out for merge flags, etc.

• Saints: Saint George is in reasonable shape, but a vandalism magnet and just needs reverts. Saint Michael's structure is in good shape, I cleaned it up a few months ago. Since then some less than properly sourced items have been added but the current form is "good enough" unless more far-out fringe material shows up.

Your help in watching these as your time allows will be greatly appreciated. And thank you for all the good interactions we have had in the past few years. History2007 (talk) 14:32, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I have watchlisted them all and I will keep an eye on them. You know what I do best. Thank you too for all you have done. Elizium23 (talk) 15:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Great. I really do have confidence in you my friend. Cheers and may God Bless you. History2007 (talk) 15:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I had forgotten Nativity of Jesus And there is Nativity of Jesus, Virgin birth of Jesus, Perpetual virginity of Mary and New Testament places associated with Jesus. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 15:24, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their July 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on July 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on July 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to eliminate the articles tagged in April, May and June 2011 from the queue and to complete all requests placed before the end of June. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 6 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in April–June 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 18:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

One-drop Rule

Thank you for fighting the "one-drop" rule as you did on Talk:Raven-Symoné. -- Marawe (talk) 09:31, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I thought that was fairly ridiculous. That editor has since been blocked, too. Elizium23 (talk) 10:15, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

CVUA

Hello, Elizium23/Archive 3! The instructors at the Counter-Vandalism Unit Academy have seen your hard work reverting vandalism, and we would like to thank you. But do you want to go to the next level? Would you like to know how reverts, warnings, reports, blocks, and bans all come together to keep this Encyclopedia free from disruption? Then consider enrolling today! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 12:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Electriccatfish2 (talk) 12:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

Hi Elizium23/Archive 3. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! v/r - TP 13:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

CVUA

On behalf of myself and the coordinators, Dan653 and Achowat, welcome to the CVUA! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

On behalf of the CVU academy myself, Achowat, (Co-coordinators) and Theopolisme (deputy coordinator welcome you to training budding anti-vandals. It is reccomended that you watchlist: Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Status,Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Enroll, ourmain talk page, and our questions page. Also, make sure you readWikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Instruction_methods. Cheers, Dan653 (talk) 00:05, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and I've watchlisted all those pages so I can't wait to get started. Elizium23 (talk) 00:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

You are removing my links

Why have you removed my links? They are all officially sanctioned and approved by the artists we represent. They are not adverts, they are official websites — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flaminhoon (talk • contribs) 12:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

They fail WP:ELNO #5, Links to individual web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services, or to web pages with objectionable amounts of advertising. For example, the mobile phone article does not link to web pages that mostly promote or advertise cell-phone products or services. Elizium23 (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I just noticed the verbiage in your question implies that you are a member of the company which runs the websites in question. In that case, you will need to examine WP:COI and ask yourself if you can really be a neutral contributor to articles in which you have a vested interest. Elizium23 (talk) 12:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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CVUA

Could you take Dede2008? Thanks, Dan653 (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

The Hunger Games (film)

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Alf54354353

UserAlf54354353 well but can I upload photos from Flickr Alf54354353 (talk) 22:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

UserAlf54354353 Hello Elizium23 well and this picture is there a license and can I get it in wikipedia please look this page http://www.flickr.com/photos/animenut/2228267950/ Alf54354353 (talk) 22:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

UserAlf54354353 Hello Elizium23 well and this person has a copyright and can I get the picture please look this page http://www.flickr.com/photos/calibre68/3672177950/ Alf54354353 (talk) 22:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

UserAlf54354353 Hello Elizium23 Well, if I make Flickr Can I upload photos to Wikipedia Alf54354353 (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

UserAlf54354353 Hello Elizium23 well some users upload photos from this user Anime Nut upload pictures of it in wikipedia Alf54354353 (talk) 23:20, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

UserAlf54354353 well I want to ask you a question this person I know him to upload a photo on this user djwu from flickr Alf54354353 (talk) 23:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks! I'll save it until Friday... it's been copied to my userpage for posterity! Elizium23 (talk) 12:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Administrator intervention against vandalism

Thanks for your report on 71.183.183.169 at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I have placed a three month range block covering most of the IP addresses used, though disruptive editing goes back much further than that. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Amanda Bynes

I completely missed that, haha. Sorry about the change. However there's a problem with the way the link is. If you click on it, it does not lead to the "Cancelled sequel" on the Hairspray 2 as it has "Cancelled" on the page, however it's linked as "Canceled" on the Amanda Bynes page. I can fix it by linking to "Cancelled" as Canceled with a "|" inbetween. - Alec (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: unfortunately, we may have to change it to "Cancelled" on the Amanda Bynes page or change it to "Canceled" on the Hairspray page where the article states "Cancelled Sequel" otherwise the link isn't linking anywhere. - Alec (talk) 15:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I changed the Hairspray article, which otherwise uses American English, to use "Canceled". The link works now. Elizium23 (talk) 16:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Glad we could work this out. - Alec (talk) 03:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding 'Saint George' warning

Greetings, with regards to the 'Final Warning' noted a week ago. This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Saint George, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Elizium23 (talk) 16:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

I feel it necessary to note to you that this IP Address is indeed a shared one, school sized need I add, the trouble you're seeing from this IP Address is the work of a small number of the students and it shames me to see that the threat of disciplinary action has been required for us, we pride ourselves on student behaviour so I wish to formally apologise for the trouble this small minority of students may be causing on Wikipedia Articles. If you check the log for this IP Address I have recently attempted to make a few contributive posts, hopefully they will be taken as so. Again I apologise for trouble caused by this IP Address and hope as far as a ban is not needed. Every big place has its troublemakers and we try to fix them but can only do so much. I shall be making a Wikipedia account soon for people to report problems from this IP Address to for myself to follow up. I will inform you from the account when it is made so you can inform others with banning privilages. Thanks a plenty. 82.33.215.26 (talk) 13:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I have tagged the IP's talk page appropriately and withdrawn the warning. Administrators should know how to handle it when they come across the notes on the talk page. Creating an account is always a good idea, especially when editing from a shared IP address. Good luck. Elizium23 (talk) 14:30, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	This is a wiki "barnstar", also a U.S. sheriff's star; in honor of your concern re: username and in recognition of a like-minded wiki member, to uphold quality and teamwork. Wikimafiacapo (talk) 06:35, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Just maybe...

Please tell me this is not a puppet. The writing style is similar, and once I mentioned it might be a puppet on a page, it just avoided that one. And looks way too familiar. The salad may not have been consumed... Too early to know for sure... Anyway, time will tell... History2007 (talk) 21:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

A puppet of whom? Nobody I am familiar with, off the top of my head. They have made over 500 edits to that article Arthur Drews but there is no sense in reverting because they have left the article with apparently a lot more constructive content and an impressive list of impressive-looking sources. So if they are editing disruptively it is news to me. A warning for edit frequency with a suggestion to use the "Preview" button is in order, I think. Elizium23 (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

It is too early to know, and no need to revert. The edits are all on the mark as you said. They just look too familiar. I think you remember this... The use of a large number of small edits that clears up the history was also interesting... same M/O... Anyway, time will tell and no need to do anything, just let him knock himself out on that page... I first noticed it here, mentioned puppet on the talk page and the edits stopped cold. Time will tell... History2007 (talk) 22:21, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Minor other point. I am not sure if you know of this tool. Just FYI. History2007 (talk) 07:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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98.223.133.112

Hi. I was looking at this person's edit history and saw your warnings at User talk:98.223.133.112#July_2012.

I'm worried that maybe we're being a little to "BITEy" with a new editor. I wonder if there's a way we can tactfully teach him our ways without discouraging or alienating him?

Thanks for diligence in watching over our content, --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:49, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I took into account previous warnings about the same issue, but really it is not an issue to be blocking him over, so would it help if I retracted one or both warnings? The more pressing issue is the more recent one that he ignored WP:CRYSTAL and introduced factual errors at Salvatore J. Cordileone, there is an RFC for it at WT:CATHOLIC if you or anyone else would care to weigh in. Elizium23 (talk) 01:37, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it would be good to retract your warnings. Sometimes other editors, unsure if an edit is vandalism, look at a user talk page, see previous warnings, then jump to conclusions, further compounding the situation. I suggest you replace them with an explanatory note along with links to diffs with the original warnings.

I appreciate your conscientiousness. I don't disagree this person's edits are problematic; I think the RFC (if kept non-punitive) is a more appropriate response along with some friendly feedback on the IP's talk page. We need all the good editors we can get; hopefully we can bring this person along. Their persistence is a good sign; now the task is to cultivate a sense of collegiality. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I hear you, and I am a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention so I am aware of the concerns and discussions in this area. Elizium23 (talk) 02:44, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your follow-up and keep up the good work. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Pointy edits

You've been around long enough to know that this edit could be perceived as one done to make a point, even if it is a valid edit. You may be right, I have no particulr opinion, but I think the timing was unwise. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

If we excised every published work and TV show and film from Wikipedia, it would be an empty place. Promotion is in the eye of the beholder. I consider Dolan's work in the public to be very important, and this is a clearly notable "meeting of the minds" but if his collaboration on a televised panel isn't notable or worthy, why do any of his works qualify? Elizium23 (talk) 22:24, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Chalk and cheese because of the tense. The books are published. They have some form of inherent notability, though may, individually, be insignificant. The TV show will/may happen. Dolan's work may or may not be important regardless or your or my opinion of him and his work, but the encyclopaedia's job is to document what has happened, not to act as a billboard for what is in the future. When the event happens, if it is citable as notable, you will hear no argument from me. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:28, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, works for me. Elizium23 (talk) 22:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I apologize for my rash actions. I edit a lot of actor and film related pages, and in that project, we don't hesitate to document when an actor is slated to star in an upcoming work. It's not WP:CRYSTAL or WP:PROMOTION for us to report what's in reliable secondary sources about that kind of stuff, but I can see if a different standard applies here. Elizium23 (talk) 22:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't see an apology as needed. I find the different standards in different 'project areas' quite challenging to work with at times and would far rather it was a single set of standards that applied universally. I can also see why this is not possible. I think we just sometimes all stand too close to our own edits sometimes to see the implications of all that we do. Luckily there is always the undo route, something other editors are often quicker than we are to apply! In the case of the edits of yours I cited it was, for me, a timing thing. You could be right about the book removal and I could be wrong about the inclusion of the forthcoming show. I was simply concerned about how others might interpret it, the more so because of your normal track record of staying out that sort or arena. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:41, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

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PS I put my name on the editor review list (early, but better to catch bad habits sooner than late). It is very nice to be praised by new contributors whom one has helped through AfC, but that is not what I was looking for. If you have the time, I would really appreciate it if you would look over everything I've been doing and comment objectively. Alternatively, if you know someone who would have time, if you would ask them to do it instead.

I have done quite a lot at AfC in a short time (with who knows what other mistakes), chipped in on a few AfD discussions, nominated one XFD recently (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Camilla_(singer)) (I understand from reading the guidelines that this is a last resort after failing to find any way to improve the article). I have done a little NPP, only a few pages. I have contributed Seth Mokitimi and Hello Summer, Goodbye on my own. Then there are a fair number of minor copyedits on little things I have found here and there. Lately I have been looking through random articles, such as Brook_International_School,_Sasthamcotta. I have no ambitions for adminship, but would like to get to use STiki at some point - when I have more experience. If you can review me, it would be great! Thanks. David_FLXD (Talk) 06:54, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Rachel's Vineyard

Why the drastic cuts to Rachel's Vineyard? The additions seemed to be well footnoted. Dutchman Schultz (talk) 04:10, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

As explained in my edit summary, these were lifted verbatim from the websites cited. Wikipedia cannot accept copy-paste of copyrighted text due to international laws. This contributor's edits consist of 100% copyright violations. Elizium23 (talk) 05:46, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... looking again at the diffs I can see that it was mostly footnotes added and no infringing text that I can discern, so I've mostly restored the edits. Sorry about that. Elizium23 (talk) 05:53, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Long term abuse & IP-hopping vandal

Thanks for your message on my talk page. I have replied there. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Inactive Student

If you would like you can drop your student, remove him from the status page, and let him know that if he becomes re-active he will need to re-enroll. At your discrection, but just a heads up. Dan653 (talk) 17:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I will take that under consideration. Elizium23 (talk) 18:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you for the lifesaving pointers re citations etc on the Elizabeth Fraser page. I've tried to get it as up to scratch as poss but am no expert in the 'how' of it so yr help is appreciated, thank you. SanjitChudha 14:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Neutral notice of an RfC

A Request for Comment has been posted for an article on which you have been an editor. If you wish to comment, go to Talk:List of African-American firsts# Request for Comment: Pro wrestling. --Tenebrae (talk) 11:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Defamatory content on Joe Arpaio talk page??

How is it defamatory to suggest Joe Arpaio is racist. It's well stated in the media that Arpaio has supported an openly Anti-Latino agenda. Especially in talk page. You basically applied your own views to delete something from a talk page. Take it easy next time. You overstepped your bounds. Nlsanand (talk) 21:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Archives

Hi, I touched up the archbox on Society of Jesus and it seems to be working. The problem may have been that the first archive page did not exist and so it was not kicking in. In general, if you just build the first arch page and copy the material from there, it should work. History2007 (talk) 06:55, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for helping out! Elizium23 (talk) 11:08, 14 August 2012 (UTC)