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Peter Steele's real name

I am in touch with Peter's niece who thanked me for restoring his real name, Peter, on his Wikipedia page. I cannot believe you keep reverting it to a made up name. Do you not believe he was born Peter? Space Rodeo (talk) 01:20, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Space Rodeo: Wikipedia isn't really about personal beliefs but about proper sourcing. See these two relevant pages on Wikipedia policies and guidelines: Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability.
The name that is currently in the article is backed by a book reference which seems reliable enough. You changed the name without citing a reliable source. If you want the name changed you will have to cite one that supports the name. Robby.is.on (talk) 07:22, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I did and I cited the website run by his family, as per their instructions. Not sure how that isn't reliable. His birth name is not a personally-held belief. Unfortunately semi-obscure rock stars don't tend to always have reliable information about their birth. They do sometimes do have poorly researched books written about them. He was a singer not a historical figure. I'm guessing you're a Wikipedia hobbyist and not a fan of this band, yes? Space Rodeo (talk) 09:13, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Space Rodeo: Oh, right, sorry, I missed that. Apparently, @Gargaj: removed the website reference (link) with an explanation in the edit summary why it is not reliable citation: "citation is a copy of wikipedia". This action is backed by WP:CIRCULAR which states: "Also, do not use websites that mirror Wikipedia content or publications that rely on material from Wikipedia as sources. Content from a Wikipedia article is not considered reliable unless it is backed up by citing reliable sources. Confirm that these sources support the content, then use them directly."
Unfortunately semi-obscure rock stars don't tend to always have reliable information about their birth. I agree that is a problem. It's one we frequently face here on Wikipedia. Unfortunately, the book seems to be the best source we have right now (?).
I'm guessing you're a Wikipedia hobbyist and not a fan of this band, yes? Correct. I just happened to notice your post here because I had FMSky's Talk page on my watchlist from when I posted here myself in April. I had not heard about Peter Steele before, all I knew was that a band called "Type O Negative" existed. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Half Barnstar
SORRY I thought you were reverting my constructive edits Squapooski Bazooski (talk) 18:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Justin Bieber: Public Image Section - YouTube and Twitter Subsection

Information icon Hey there, I'm Beemer03. I was reviewing Justin Bieber's YouTube and Twitter Subsection and noticed that you re-added the following information:

Six of Bieber's music videos (more than any other artist) listed in the top 40 most disliked videos on YouTube.< ref >"Justin Bieber video is most complained about of all time on YouTube". The Daily Telegraph. London.< /ref >

My question is whether this information is actually necessary. He may have charted six videos on that list many years ago, but that is no longer true. Statistically this is incorrect because in the List of most-disliked YouTube videos, he only has one in the top 50. Kindly revert this. You can let me know what you think on my talk page. Thanks.

--Beemer03 (talk) 08:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

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IMDb not reliable

Hi. Can I ask why you consider IMDb to be an unreliable source for a citation. --Mudforce (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, cause it's user-generated, see also WP:IMDB ----- FMSky (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

MysterioRey619

In case you have anything to add: WP:ANI#MysterioRey619. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

MATTHIAS SINDELAR

Matthias Sindelar was elected "Athlete of the Century" in Austria (obviously you don't know it) and 22st best player of the 20th Century by IFFHS. But it doesn't matter, the article is about Bican. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 23:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Shakira

Why did you delete my part, couldn't you just edit and correct the spelling errors? I ask you please leave what I put is not a questionable source is Vogue I did not break any rule. AlexanderShakifan29 (talk) 00:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Dave Chappelle article

You’ve removed my cited statements in the intro of Dave Chappelle’s article. What is the reason for this? It’s not fair you took it off when no one else seemed to have an issue with it for a long time. AfroWorld33 (talk) 02:42, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Chris Roupas photo help

Hello, would you be able to re-add the reverse dunk photo in the article so the layout does not get messed up please as we tried? Thank you.Coachpc (talk) 03:14, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Justin Bieber: Home Page

Information icon Hey, I was reviewing Justin Bieber's Home Page and noticed that you deleted the portion "Often referred to as the "Prince of Pop" from the first paragraph. Media companies globally have given him this reference since 2012. If you go to "Honorific nicknames in popular music", you will find it there as well. Additionally, I gave a Billboard article citation that talks about this. Kindly revert this. You can let me know what you think on my talk page. Thanks.

--Beemer03 (talk) 05:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Blaine

Why are you rolling back my changes. I am the producer of Magic Man and other shows and your changes are wrong and make no sense. Please explain what I'm missing. -Bill Kalush — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkalush (talkcontribs) 15:00, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Justin Bieber

Information icon Hi, I understand that several people had opposing point of views for the portion of text you deleted. This title is not given to him by me, but rather by music consumers globally and it is exactly why it is given in the "Honorific nicknames in popular music" page. As an editor, I am simply allowing it to be recognised and that is my responsibility. It is my responsibility to ensure that readers are exposed to the latest information. I evidenced the statement with two valid citations, both of which imply that he has achieved artistic recognition for his work. If it is all the same with you, I can create a clause in the Edit Source Section to put this in writing. It is very straightforward and nothing over-the-top. It is just an honorary title. I hope you understand. You can let me know what you think on my talk page. Thanks.

Beemer03 (talk) 07:48, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Bnmpc

why you revert my edit Anonymous6348 (talk) 11:44, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Messi

You have to explain why you reverted my edit on Messi's page. I did everything right. Campió99 (talk) 17:04, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Campió99:: yes but the sentence is based on talk page consensus FMSky (talk) 17:06, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Tarantula (poetry collection)

Thanks for reverting my correct edit. I got my information directly from the source ... https://books.google.ca/books?id=7ZhY6BDNXWMC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=Now%27s+not+the+time+to+get+silly,+so+wear+your+big+boots+and+jump+on+the+garbage+clowns.&source=bl&ots=YWeUwJmSgG&sig=ACfU3U3VQ0pHYxRsW7T3Qu8f0--Iie6QdA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJy4WJquXxAhULOq0KHXKwAlMQ6AEwA3oECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=Now's%20not%20the%20time%20to%20get%20silly%2C%20so%20wear%20your%20big%20boots%20and%20jump%20on%20the%20garbage%20clowns.&f=false

Where did you get yours from? Smratguy (talk) 14:56, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Cod infinite Warfare review

Hi,

I have seen that you edited the review for cod infinite warfare, but the campaign has been rated higher by everyone else when I checked online, and even the fans of the franchise agreed that the campaign was the highlight of the game,n so there is no way that reception to the campaign were mixed Crowkid55555 (talk) 02:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Whitney Houston

Hi FM. I think you should check sources on the Whitney Houston’s page before remove something. These are reliable sources. Most of the sources were taken from CNN, ABC, Rolling Stone and Sony. Thank you so much. Phạm Huy Thông (talk) 19:31, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Your recent edits

I'm letting you know now before formally warning you that your edits are disruptive. You cannot remove something that is clearly supported by the article as you did on Dr Dre and Eminem. The infobox is for all fame related occupations. The article lead is for most notable career occupations. For example, Dr Dre has appeared in several character roles as an actor. This fits the qualifications for the info box. Furthermore in regards to the Tyga page for example, any artist who writes some portion of their own lyrical material is clearly a singer-songwriter by very definition of the page. For you to revert singer-songwriter into singer and songwriter separately, with the explanation that they are not singer-songwriters, makes absolutely no sense. I believe your edits are just you being misinformed and not that you are actually attempting to vandalize, so I'll tell you now to stop doing it. If you do it again you will be formally warned and reported to the admins board. If you have an issue with the edits, take it to the talk page for consensus but as of now what I have in place is supported by everything in the article(s). ChicagoWikiEditor (talk) 00:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

@ChicagoWikiEditor: read the definition of singer-songwriter for fucks sake. it requires someone to play instruments in addition to writing their own songs. I will therefore continue to revert suchs edits of you FMSky (talk) 07:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
"Singer-songwriters often provide the sole accompaniment to an entire composition or song, typically using a guitar or piano." FMSky (talk) 07:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
  • @FMSky: See you at the admins board. Read the "Multi-tasking songwriters" section of the songwriters article, and cross reference that with what I told you about how separating the labels implies the artist writes music for others. Also educate yourself on the word "typically". Cheers. Please do continue to revert my edits. Good luck with that, walking down my history and changing article supported information. I don't care how triggered you get lol ChicagoWikiEditor (talk) 17:20, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Rappers and "singer-songwriters"

For the record, you were correct on this. JimKaatFan (talk) 20:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Klement Tinaj for deletion

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Request for comment

There is an RfC ongoing about a topic which you have previously been involved in here. JimKaatFan (talk) 15:02, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Houston’s voice

We need at least one adjective to describe the singer's voice, as well as explain why her vocal performance is influential. “Soulful” with a popular gospel singer like Whitney is nowhere near “peacock”. Other vocalists they have dozens of praise adjectives on the opening. Phạm Huy Thông (talk) 17:47, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

According to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, SOUL is "music that arose out of the black experience in America through the transmutation of GOSPEL and RHYTHM AND BLUES into a form of funky, secular testifying."...characteristics are a call and response between the soloist and the chorus, and an especially tense vocal sound. The style also occasionally uses improvisational additions, twirls and auxiliary sounds Phạm Huy Thông (talk) 18:13, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, in order to avoid an edit-war, I'm writing you here. I reinstated the "lead too long" template because the lead was still 1/5 of the written text of the entire article body, obviously still too long. I explained this in my edit summary but you proceeded to revert without addressing my argument.

Regarding the situation now, I obviously didn't delete the "whole lead." There was clear undue emphasis on parts of their pre-YouTuber career, as well as their podcasts, all things they are not primarily known for, hence undue for a lead section. I strongly believe that my version is a clear improvement as it is much more in line with WP:LEAD and should be reinstated. Throast (talk | contribs) 14:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

yes, but your ultra-short lead imo lacks the necessary context, eg too much emphasis on her working as a stripper/model. so its better imo to have a slightly too long lead instead of one that leaves out information --FMSky (talk) 14:32, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
If you argue that the lead shouldn't "leave out information," then the lead becomes pointless. A lead concisely summarizes the most important points of an article and hence, by definition, leaves out information. My version is not "ultra-short," it's entirely appropriate for the length of the article. Listing artists they've done music videos for or listing their non-notable podcasts and second channel just doesn't seem due for the article's lead section. I don't understand how one can argue against that. Throast (talk | contribs) 14:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello

How do you have over 30,000 edits within 7 months?? You're a legend Lostfan333 (talk) 23:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Im Josh from Nigeria. Josiah Eson Lewa (talk) 13:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Be polite please

I just wanted to make the article, Oscar Fischer, easier to edit putting ELs. In fact, Authority Control includes external links. Some say don't bite newcomers, but newcomers bite old wikipedians. --Egeymi (talk) 11:25, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

DON'T BE ON HARRY

Don't be on harry. Wait and in the end, you can decide. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 13:25, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

This is a first step. See it and then decide. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 13:34, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

No you can say your opinion. First read the talk page with explanations. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 13:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

We don't you revert my edit now? Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

List of players with more than 500 goals

I'm trying to make the article "to be written" . When information with are to many and contraversial, this makes it "not to be written" but just see the numbers. As it is written know, it reduces the purpose of the lists. Some of the references are good, some not and some are simply rubbish as the one of El Pais was that I deleted (fake and not updated information that one certain person can't understand). You obviously don't know my knowledge as you are not obliged to know. But now you know how to act. First see, and then decide as you did know. You can also write to me. Thanks. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 17:56, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

And I do mistakes as everybody except the Pope. But my purpose is the TRUTH and I definetely know when I'm writing something. But ideas, other opinions of the writing the truth are interesting and I'll like to know. I was locked for one month due to "troll" (I dislike social media and I don't know the meaning of this word). If I'll "punished" again, I'm not the one who is going to lose. If those I wrote are not interesting for you I won't be offended. I don't do things that others will like. These are for the politicians, not for me. Thanks. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 21:21, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

There is no reason to TELL ME WHAT TO DO. I have already explained in the talk page but I will write it personally : TOP LEVEL GOALS ARE NOT A RECOGNISED TYPE OF GOALS BY FIFA. THERE ARE TWO TYPE OF GOALS : 1) official 2) friendlies AND NOTHING ELSE. Is wikipedia an encyclopaedia? If it is, wikipedia has to be the first to make it clear. Thanks. Γεώργιος Τερζής 2 (talk) 21:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Edit summary

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Why you reverted my edits

Hi you just reverted the pics I added on Kylie Jenner Kendall Jenner and Kim Kardashian and you say copyright violation. Can you please tell me how it violates copyright rules when they are my works? Please reply soon EditWiki45talk EditWiki45 (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

And one more thing the pic added on Kim Kardashian's page is from a website. And when it is marked as my work then how can I violate my own copyright. Atleast two pics are legal according to Wikipedia's rule. Do you want to get involved in an edit war? EditWiki45 (talk) 15:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi buddy, I'm sorry I was a little overconfident with my uploads. Although, I did not take them from websites but the same pics were available on some websites. And so I have got notices for violation and I have asked for help with 1 revertion of picture on Kim's article. Btw Sorry and Thnks hope u won't retaliate in my language. Signing off with good thoughts. EditWiki45talk EditWiki45 (talk) 15:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

ok, np FMSky (talk) 15:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Please dare not to use foul language or face rebel legally and according to the Times here on Wikipedia EditWiki45 (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Justin Bieber

Hi FMSky. I noticed that you deleted the sentence "Bieber's versatile cross-genre approach towards music and showmanship have received widespread recognition." Many artist pages exclude references for opening statements, therefore the reference given to support it was out of formality. Perhaps it can be changed to - "Bieber's versatility in music and showmanship have received widespread recognition." --Beemer03 (talk) 08:03, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

do you have a source to support this statement? FMSky (talk) 08:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Here are two links - Link 1 and Link 2 that support the above claim. Please review and revert. --Beemer03 (talk) 11:03, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Polanski letter thing

Hello FMSky, I wanted to give you a heads-up about a situation involving a user adding undue content regarding Roman Polanski at a few dozen biographical articles a couple days ago. See User talk:Abbyjjjj96#August 2021 for details. Based on a cursory glance at your contributions, you appear to be just a passerby, doing an AWB run or something similar, targeting a lot of different articles, some of which happen to coincide with the ones changed by AbbyJ. The reason for the heads-up, is that I suspect Abby's changes may need to be reverted en masse, and any further changes to those articles can make that more difficult. So, this is just a request to avoid other articles on Abby's list in your run, if that's even possible; it might make repairing the bios easier, if Abby's version is the most recent and it needs to be undone. If not, sorry for the bother and have a nice day. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

It appears that User:Menino Tonecas, this range and this IP are the same individual, given the geolocation, editing patterns and editing continuity. Hopefully the blocks send a message; let me know if you see any more disruption from that editor. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: Hi, the same user is now active under this IP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.49.53.2), adding unsourced birth countries or useless links in infoboxes --FMSky (talk) 07:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Beyoncé Is A Model Right?

Hi FMSky. Can you please edit Beyoncé’s Wikipedia page to add that she is a model because she is a model and has worked as a model in her life? I as a fan of Beyoncé’s hope to hear back from you soon and you can make that edit. Michaelangelot (talk) 16:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@Michaelangelot: FMSky has no power over the edits of Beyoncé. You can make whatever edits you choose. RossButsy (talk) 20:00, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

No you cannot make edits to Beyoncé’s Wikipedia page anymore for some reason. Michaelangelot (talk) 23:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


@Michaelangelot: You CAN edit it. It’s protected at the moment you just need to make more edits. RossButsy (talk) 10:15, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

A more edits to what first? Michaelangelot (talk) 12:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

@Michaelangelot: You’ve only got 6 mainspace edits. Depending on the level of protection Beyoncé has you might need at least 500. Just make more edits on any article. RossButsy (talk) 12:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Well who can for sure update Beyoncé’s Wikipedia page with the correction that she is a model as you are aware that she is a model as one of her other occupations right? Michaelangelot (talk) 13:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Vikram

Hi FMSky, I changed his son, "dhruv vikram's" age under vikrams page. he was born in 1997 and you have 1995 written down there. he is also 23 years old not 25 years old. i have a video where vikram says himself dhuv was born in 1997 but you decided not to care about that info and make up your own stuff User:yallknownothingboutdhruvvikram (talk) 9:24 17 september 2021 AEST

are you referring to this edit? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikram_(actor)&diff=1044684283&oldid=1044681988 you didnt include a source --FMSky (talk) 23:29, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

MOS:ORDER, a MoS policy

Please see MOS:ORDER, a MoS policy. Your edit to Cry Macho has been reverted. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Committing suicide

On the Theodore Annemann page you keep changing neutral phrases to say that he 'committed' suicide, rather than 'took his own life' or 'died by suicide'. Why do you do this? Suicide is no longer an offence, and such judgemental words are to be deprecated.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin S Taylor (talkcontribs) 10:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

@Martin S Taylor: This is the standard wording.....see MOS:EUPHEMISM -- FMSky (talk) 15:37, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Why do you say it's 'standard wording'? There's nothing about it in MOS:EUPHEMISM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin S Taylor (talkcontribs) 19:04, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
I agree. MOS:EUPHEMISM has nothing to do with this. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:37, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
'took his own life' and 'passed away' are euphemisms... FMSky (talk) 13:52, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
That is a valid point, I'm striking my comment above.. "Died by suicide" seems a bit unclear. Hm… There's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_terminology#Opposition_to_the_term_%22commit%22_suicide. Robby.is.on (talk) 23:37, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
How is "Died by suicide" unclear? My objection is to "committing" suicide, as if it were an offence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin S Taylor (talkcontribs) 10:07, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

This edit war

Let's reach a consensus about whether Kane Tanaka credits her faith in God as one of her secrets to longevity. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 09:55, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

@Chicdat: i didnt even change any of that... see the edit history please. i just removed another unsourced section FMSky (talk) 09:56, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
You changed it the first time. Oh yes; you haven't been removing the God part, you've been removing a badly formatted paragraph about how "she would have gotten the covid19 [sic] vaccine had she still been able to walk." Which contradicts another statement in a source saying that Kane takes walks through her nursing home. Yes, consensus has been reached: not to include that. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 10:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Harrison Ford

Thanks for the note on references for my edit relating to Joan Didion: The Center Will Not Hold. I thought the link to the heavily referenced page on the documentary would be sufficient. I have added two references, to the actual netflix page and an article in the NYP discussing this item. 26 September 2021 Cgymer55

Mechanical Resonance by Tesla

Hello, my name is Abdul, on the page for Tesla’s album Mechanical Resonance there is someone who keeps changing genres to their liking, I looked through the page history and saw you previously reverted their edit, so I came here to tell you they’re doing it again. 184.103.30.121 (talk) 17:57, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring

Please stop edit warring as you are doing on XXXTentacion, as no one else is doing this but you and you outed your true biased intentions of presenting the subject as a “criminal” when that is not what the page’s purpose of constructing. TheXuitts (talk) 20:10, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

"Stop edit warring"? Two different people inserted another photo and you reverted both multiple times. You were the only one edit warring. --FMSky (talk) 02:57, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, just wondering what was the guidelines for removing instruments he uses from the info box? I want to make sure I follow this logic going forward. Thanks -Ddab (talk) 20:06, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

@Ddab: per Template:Infobox musical artist: "Instruments listed in the infobox should be limited to only those that the artist is primarily known for using. The instruments infobox parameter is not intended as a WP:COATRACK for every instrument the subject has ever used."
In the case of Will Evankovich, bass and mandolin weren't even mentioned once throughout the whole article, so i removed them. FMSky (talk) 20:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Ok understood...Will Evankovich played mandolin on the last Styx album and is listed in the credits on Crash Of The Crown, and he plays mandolin when they tour. It is mentioned regularly in several notable press stories he play mandolin and bass in addition to his other instruments. If we revised to properly state the instruments Evankovich is known for regularly playing we can revisit. Thanks for the taking the time to explain. Ddab (talk) 00:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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I am not trying to do anything wrong to this site

I am editing this page since I am having a hard time trying to talk but I am not trying to harm the site I am trying to correct mistakes It is just hard for me to understand the rules correctly neither did The Jazz Fool (1929) or Mickey's Steam Roller (1934) use the Minnie's Yoo-Hoo theme The Jazz Fool uses a diffrent opening theme soundtrack while Minnie's-Yoo-Hoo is only used on the reuse on Mickey's Steam Roller and Mickey's voice in Mickey's Follies was Walt Disney and Hardaway's first peformance as Woody was The Barber Of Seville (1944) and his last peformace as Woody was Drooler's Delight (1949)

@Controlrabbit: you need to source your edits. you can't just change and add stuff however you like -- FMSky (talk) 08:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
ok

edits on Andy Panda filmography

Apparently there was an edit on Andy Panda filmography that claimed that the Andy cartoons were part of the LT and MM series despite them not even being WB cartoons I removed the edit and it got reverted back what reason was it? Controlrabbit (talk) 09:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

And can you also stop reverting back edits that are either minor or incorrect? Controlrabbit (talk) 09:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

And also talk pages that I made Controlrabbit (talk) 09:40, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@Controlrabbit:: my bad, that was a missclick. i have restored it FMSky (talk) 09:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@Controlrabbit: why are you still making unsourced changes, like here (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ed_Love&type=revision&diff=1049017455&oldid=1048528498)? the years dont even fit with the text now. FMSky (talk) 10:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

" just please dont comment on topics you're not familiar with"

just please dont comment on topics you're not familiar with- not appropriate. I know what I'm talking about, I'm an active WikiProject Football member, stop belittling me because I disagree with you. Next time you post something like this, I'm going to WP:ANI to ask for you to be blocked. Comment on content, not editors- especially when your assertions are ridiculous and incorrect. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:51, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

And questions on my competence are ironic when you failed to create an RFC properly, and also failed to read WP:RFCBEFORE, which specifically said it didn't need an RFC. Instead of slating others, try being collaborative. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:55, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Chill mate, I just meant the player in particular, not football in general. FMSky (talk) 13:58, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
I understand why you want it there, and I disagree. That doesn't mean I'm "not knowledgeable", it means I don't agree with you. Which so far, nobody on that discussion has done. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:01, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Well it has been edit warred to include the nickname multiple times by different users in the last days if you look at the page history of Cristiano Ronaldo... ---
People edit warring is not a reason to do something. Edit warring shouldn't be encouraged, as using it as a reason is a bad argument. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:28, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

A beer for you!

great work! Cornerstonepicker (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Spelling response

Wild card can be spelled two ways. If you don't believe me, see the evidence on the wild card disambiguation page and the edit summary for The Masked Singer (American season 6) done by @Drmargi:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 14:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

What?

Did you just revert my edits? Well, that's my point. It's an irrational act.

Liviinder (talk) 07:36, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Support & Synergy

Hi, im looking for support & synergy for Nigerian Wiki Community. Josiah Eson Lewa (talk) 13:57, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Get Rich or Die Tryin'

Get Rich or Die Tryin' was also released on Universal and G-Unit, but my citation was removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by WPUNJ (talkcontribs) 03:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Relating to some false information given.

Cristiano has scored total 9 goals till now,4 in premiere league and 5 in Champions league.So,please update that as soon as possible. 2409:4061:4E8A:366A:C0A1:64C:1736:1F70 (talk) 09:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi IP user, as the infobox says, we only include league appearances and goals there, not cup games (including the Champions' League). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:01, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo

Hi FMSky - how are my edits nonsense? The date range article you linked to says two consecutive years can be abbreviated as 2010–11 or 2017–18 etc. Also, we abbreviate all consecutive date ranges for football seasons and competitions, i.e. 2007–08 Manchester United F.C. season or 2020–21 EFL Cup so why would that change for Ronaldo's article when the sections that I am editing are about specific seasons? Rupert1904 (talk) 13:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

yes but it also says, "non-abbreviated years are generally preferred"-- FMSky (talk) 15:39, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
So my edits are not nonsense then. No need to be aggressive and rude. And still, I am following the MOS for how years are abbreviated for football seasons and competitions. I see no reason why a section about his 2017–18 season with Real Madrid should be written as 2017–2018 as the Real Madrid article is not written as 2017–2018 Real Madrid CF season but 2017–18 Real Madrid CF season. I am being consistent. Rupert1904 (talk) 16:33, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
the rest of the article's heading has the full date range, so if anything you're making it less consistent. I'm also not the only one who reverted you if you haven't noticed. Like the other editor said, the dates are years, not seasons
Please read the article. The 2008–09 and 2017–18 sections are about specific seasons not years. If a change should be made, then either the multiple years should be condensed to season sections or vice versa and 2008–09 and 2017–18 should be incorporated into years so there is not a problem. You commenting on this and not being familiar with football MOS and being rude is also just super annoying and frustrating. Rupert1904 (talk) 18:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
further discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Cristiano_Ronaldo_/_season_abbreviations


But what about programming, subchannel and for dates of birth

Do or don't I add citation for programming, subchannels, and dates of brith? 4:28, 4 November 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Universal1314 (talkcontribs)

And how to add citation

How do I add a citation? 4:35, 4 November 2021 (UTC) Universal1314 (talk

Question

Hello, hope you're having a good day, since you've helped with Orbit Culture page, I was wondering if you think I can remove that template message? I've added some new references and it seems fine now. BlackSiren77 (talk) 08:01, 6 November 2021 (UTC).

Charli Baltimore

Hey i saw you put 1995 charli's page when Big and her started being together, I am wondering could you do the same for the Notorious B.I.G. page --Aaron106 (talk) 02:16, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Edits

why did you revert my edits adding NY as the state? every wikipedia page includes the state --Aaron106 (talk) 17:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

@Aaron106: have you read this note?: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jay-Z&diff=prev&oldid=1054374226 -- FMSky (talk) 17:34, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Where is the manual of style? How can i get to it --Aaron106 (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style FMSky (talk) 17:36, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Where is the State section? --Aaron106 (talk) 17:37, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

actually it wasnt in the MoS but rather in the infobox documentation, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person#Parameters --FMSky (talk) 17:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

ok thanks --Aaron106 (talk) 17:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Ed Durr

Just wondering why my edits on Ed Durr were removed regarding his parents. I am his son, I should know who my grandparents are. I also made changes yesterday that were incorrect that keep being reverted that are untrue. Ridiculous...

cause you need to provide a source for your changes...FMSky (talk) 16:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
The source would be myself. I will change it accordingly... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.207.169.46 (talk) 16:17, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

So fast

You are so fast are you human? Tisid (talk) 22:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Ban request

Hello, I've seen you have warned the user JimmyCrow for his behaviour editing, I beg you to ban him, he is reverting all my edits without any kind of explanation. I've seen that he has been banned before for undoing edits. Thanks. Cracker-Kun (talk) 17:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah i've left a report here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism, maybe you want to add something --FMSky (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Snoop

Why did you revert my edit on Snoop's page? What is wrong with that --Aaron106 (talk) 04:01, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

His preferred name/stage name is Snoop Dogg, not "Broadius". Isnt that kind of obvious? FMSky (talk) 04:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

That's why it shows at the top. and it's "Broadus" Thank you very much :) --Aaron106 (talk) 04:06, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

the article is named Snoop Dogg obviously, as is the infobox, so that should also be used for the captions --FMSky (talk) 04:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Is there another rule for this? or is it just your opinion. There's lots of pages on Wikipedia that just use the artist's real last name under their photo --Aaron106 (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME. If other articles use their last name/real name, its maybe because they're very common -- FMSky (talk) 04:17, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Aleks Krotoski

Hi FMSky! I see you reverted my edit to the Aleks Krotoski article. Could you please help me understand how "She presented the The Guardian podcast" could be correct? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 07:42, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

"She presented the The Guardian podcast Tech Weekly" is correct -FMSky (talk) 07:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Could you please provide me a source for how the duplicate "the" is correct? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:36, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Or would you be OK with "She presented the Guardian podcast" instead? GoingBatty (talk) 02:04, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: yeah that would also work --FMSky (talk) 07:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Switch to DMY dates in List of minor secular observances

Why did you switch from Month Day to Day Month in in this edit? MOS:DATEFORMAT doesn't advocate one over the other. In fact, MOS:DATERET says we should retain the existing style. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:59, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

it didn't have the "use dmy"/"use mdy" template yet so i formatted it to have a consistent style throughout the article, and dmy made more sense as its a worldwide topic while "mdy" is only used in the US.. FMSky (talk) 17:05, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit even though they were cited with reliable sources?Motlatlaneo (talk) 09:39, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

@Motlatlaneo: see MOS:ETHNICITY --FMSky (talk) 09:39, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Selena

Hey fella, don´t you think it would be better to keep the "subclavian artery" part on the cause of death of Selena? What did you think, its the same as on the XXXTentacion part clarifying how and where she received the impact that fatally ended her life. What did you think? TheBellaTwins1445 (talk) 17:20, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Photo of Tommy Hutchison

Hello!

As I noticed your long history contributing on Wikimedia Commons, and as I am unfamiliar with image copyrights and I wouldn't wish to upload an image that will end up getting removed later (I am afraid of doing something stupid), I would like to ask for a favor, if it's feasible, and of course if it is no bother for you: I would like to add an image of Tommy Hutchison in the list of men's footballers with the most official appearances, as the outfield player with the most appearances, but I couldn't find any relative image on Wikimedia Commons, so could you upload one? By the way, you can find some good images here, i.e. close-up, solo ones in color.

In case you can't, please inform me so...

Kind regards!

Lorry Gundersen (talk) 08:43, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Lorry Gundersen: Hi, i dont know if i'll be able to find one without copyright images, but i will try -- FMSky (talk) 10:27, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
It's ok if you can't locate one without copyright issues. Thanks for trying. Kind regards, Lorry Gundersen (talk) 12:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021

I really regret having to block you for edit warring over something as paltry as whether or not a solitary comma should be included in a list of items in a sentence. For what it's worth, I feel you are grammatically correct, and the IP should not have been inserting a final comma. But that's absolutely no excuse for such tit-for-tat editing across at least two, possibly more articles. You reported the IP to WP:AIV which was really not appropriate, and you and the IP have both been blocked for the identical short period of time to avoid further disruption to the articles. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: Are you serious? The reason i reverted is to keep the article(s) consistent. The IP inserted a single serial comma into the lead but kept the rest of the article as it was, which creates and uneven style. i even said that the IP has been previously blocked for the same issue, and now i'm getting blocked without any warning? FMSky (talk) 00:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Thanks for reaching out. Look, I am serious about edit warring, but I do try not to act unreasonably. I'm sorry if you think I am doing so, and would be happy for another administrator to unblock you if they feel I did not act fairly. And I will look into the issue further lest I have 'jumped the gun'. At Jon Huntsman Jr. I don't see any edit summaries to help an ill-informed user understand the issue, or any discussion, so the constant switching back and forth is not helpful, and edit warring works both ways. The short block on both parties was to avoid further disruption, not to punish you, or the other IP editor. As it's pretty late at night here in the UK, and I might not be able too investigate further right now, I'm happy to nip over to WP:AN and ask another admin to review and unblock you if I've over-reacted. And you may make an unblock request. I will do what I can to look further into the actions of both parties. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:55, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I mean i did clearly write "no improvement" at Jon Huntsman Jr. (and multiple other articles) and the IP even got reverted by another user for the same issue on multiple occasions... maybe i should've written a clearer explanation but i've known this IP for a while and it just gets annoying after a while. i will check the unblock options, thanks FMSky (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: Thanks for the unblock :) I wont engage with this IP any further as it just isnt worth the time FMSky (talk) 01:15, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
The user is literally IP hopping to edit war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.204.81.219 --FMSky (talk) 00:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
OK. I'll check it out. Thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:59, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi again. I have removed the block I gave you for edit warring. It wouldn't be fair on you if I were to simply walk away and go to bed and leave you blocked without fully investigating. (It's happened to me, and it's not nice, I know) I also know you acted in good faith (and were grammatically in the right) by reverting the IP's very trivial edits. But please avoid such tit-for-tat reverting in future without making really clear your position, and communicating your reasons so the other editor (and people like me) can quickly see the efforts you've made to stop such nonsensical edit-warring edits. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I reckon we could all benefit from reading both Serial comma and WP:COMMAS. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Niklas Süle

Hi @FMSky, I removed the flag that said lead too short for Niklas Süle because the lead accurately describes who he is and what teams he plays on. I would love to hear what you feel should be included in the lead in addition to it since you reverted that edit. Thanks! FiddleheadLady (talk) 15:27, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

why did you revert all my edits?

Why did you revert all my edits to remove links to Trouser Press?

Infobox parameters

Please stop removing valid parameters from footballer infoboxes. GiantSnowman 19:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Please read MOS:IMGSIZE --FMSky (talk) 19:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
I have. where does it say not to use image_size= parameter? At most you should replace that parameter with upright=. GiantSnowman 19:47, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: Seriously, what the hell are you doing right now? The size sets itself, it doesnt need to be specified FMSky (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
What the hell are you doing?! You are removing valid parameters without explanation or edit summaries. It is standard to fix sizes in infoboxes, as MOS:IMGSIZE says. Stop your disruptive editing please. GiantSnowman 19:52, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
"It is standard to fix sizes in infoboxes" ???????? what does this even mean. You dont make any sense right now -- FMSky (talk) 19:53, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
It is standard to change sizes of images in footballer infoboxes, hence why the image_size= parameter exists. Any clearer? GiantSnowman 19:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
No it isnt, wtf? Where does it say that? FMSky (talk) 19:55, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
You've been here less than a year, I've been here nearly 16. See Template:Infobox football biography#Parameters and maybe start listening for once??? GiantSnowman 19:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
The parameter is for special cases to make pictures bigger when the image doesnt have the minimum required size, not to randomly set sizes... i see users all the time remove it, even admins (eg here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Bailly&diff=prev&oldid=1057657726) FMSky (talk) 20:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

You previously claimed not to know the parameter even existed, now you say you do but it's only for 'special cases'? Nonsense. Please just acknowledge the parameter is valid and leave it alone and we can all get on with our lives? GiantSnowman 20:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eric_Bailly&diff=prev&oldid=1057657726 FMSky (talk) 20:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah you sent that link before. I presume you have no further arguments then? GiantSnowman 20:07, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
I know the parameter is valid, but it shouldnt be used in most cases as the preferred size sets itself ... im pinging @Mattythewhite: to see what the preference is ---FMSky (talk) 20:11, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
"image_size=" is deprecated, yes, but expanding or contracting an image using |upright may be necessary in some cases. MOS:IMGSIZE states: "Where a smaller or larger image is appropriate, use |upright=scaling factor, which expands or contracts the image by a factor relative to the user's base width." and "Short, wide images often call for upright of 1 or greater; tall, narrow images may look best with upright of 1 or less." Robby.is.on (talk) 20:25, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
i never touched the "upright" parameters, only the image size ones...FMSky (talk) 20:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

MOS:IMGSIZE literally says: "Except with very good reason, a fixed width in pixels (e.g. 17px) should not be specified." and "As a general rule, images should not be set to a larger fixed width than 220px (the initial base width)"--- FMSky (talk) 20:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Right. But in some cases, you might need to replace "|image_size" by "|upright" instead of just removing it. MOS:IMGSIZE literally says […] Yes, "|image_size" uses fixed widths, "|upright" does not. Robby.is.on (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
yeah but not replacing it leads to it automatically selecting the best size, which almost always looks best ¯\_(ツ)_/ --FMSky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
How does that statement mesh with the MOS:IMGSIZE quote from above: "Short, wide images often call for upright of 1 or greater; tall, narrow images may look best with upright of 1 or less."? Robby.is.on (talk) 20:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC)