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WikiProject Ice Hockey August 2007 Newsletter

WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter

Dear Flibirigit/ice hockey! You are receiving this newsletter because you have signed up as a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey. The purpose of this newsletter is to update on the goings on of the project, as there have been major changes, and a lot of new recognized content in the past few weeks. If you are an inactive user, you probably won't recognize the new and improved state of the WikiProject!

From the project, Maxim.

New recognized content

By Maxim
There have been a lot more Good and Featured articles written in the past few weeks. Here is a list:[1][2][3][4]

Featured articles
Good articles
Featured lists[5]
Notes
  1. ^ All articles are in order of promotion, as written on the main WikiProject page; FA's have official dates of promotions.
  2. ^ A star represents a featured article or list
  3. ^ A green circle represents a good article
  4. ^ Stanley Cup is an A-Class article
  5. ^ The lists system differs from articles, and doesn't give an official date of promotion
Article Improvement

By Maxim

Upon some discussion on the WikiProject talk page, the Article Improvement Drive page was revamped by Krm500 and Maxim. It was renamed Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Article Improvement, and it includes two section. The first section is called articles in dire need of improvement. It list articles, usually important, that are in very poor shape. The second section is called requested help. Users list an article they request help improving a certain article, which will facilitate collaboration, which is the aim of any WikiProject. There is one article currently listed there, Henrik Lundqvist, here. The goal is to at least get it to Good article status.

Diacritics

By Maxim

In the past few weeks, there has been quite heated discussion about the use of diacritics in article name. The current guideline is using diacritics in the pages of articles of all player names which require them, but redirects are exempt.

Task forces

By Maxim
There have been two new task forces started within the WikiProject to coordinate major topics.

Sweden Ice Hockey task force

This task force was initiated by Krm500. Its current goal is to improve Henrik Lundqvist to Good or Featured article status. It covers all Swedish clubs, leagues and competitions and associated articles, players and coaches that are Swedish, or have played/coached for a Swedish club, and arenas in Sweden. They plan to eventually operate as a sort of a sub-project, which will have its own articles for creation, ranking importance and quality of articles, and co-ordinate article improvement. Its current members are Krm500, Bamsefar75, and CLAES.

New Jersey Devils task force

This task force was initiated by Bsroiaadn. Its goal is to improve New Jersey Devils to Featured Topic status. Although it currently meets the required article count, the task force wishes to improve it further. Its area of coverage is very similar to the Sweden Ice Hockey task force. Its members are Bsroiaadn, JHMM13, FutureNJGov, Sportskido8, Michael Greiner, JRWalko, and Soxrock.

Requested Images

By Maxim
After discussion on the WikiProject talk page, Serte created a page for Requested Images. The page encourages users to license images for use on articles. The page also has section to request images for players, arenas, game situations, miscellaneous, and team and league logos. The page has been quite popular; since it was created on July 21, there have been six completed requests. There are four currently outstanding requests:

Article assessement completed

By Maxim
On July 12, Kaiser matias announced that he had completed assessing all the articles with a {{ice hockey}} tag, sorting them into Category:Unassessed Ice Hockey articles. Kaiser matias has ranked about 9000 articles in that category, and most were stubs, and "have no information at all", according to him. Everybody is encouraged to expand the stubs into real articles. This effort took around 5 months. A big thanks goes to Kaiser matias from me and all the project.


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WikiProject Ice Hockey September 2007 Newsletter

WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter

Dear Flibirigit/ice hockey! You are receiving as you are a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey There's been more new thing going on at WP:HOCKEY, and I think this will help you to stay informed. Since the last newsletter sent out in August, there's been great changes. Read on to find out! Maxim(talk)

This just in:
Maurice 'Rocket' Richard Trophy has just been promoted to featured list status, while the bot was delivering the newsletter. Maxim(talk) 02:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

And I've just promoted Art Ross Trophy. And Clarence S. Campbell Bowl is at FLC. This should be the last update. Maxim(talk) 00:40, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
New recognized content

By Maxim

Especially due to the featured topic drive, there have been many new featured lists promoted concerning NHL awards. Here's the full list of all the 13 FL's promoted since the last newsletter.[1][2]

  1. Hart Memorial Trophy
  2. James Norris Memorial Trophy
  3. Vezina Trophy
  4. Conn Smythe Trophy
  5. Frank J. Selke Trophy
  6. Lady Byng Memorial Trophy
  7. Lester B. Pearson Award
  8. Calder Memorial Trophy
  9. Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy
  10. King Clancy Memorial Trophy
  11. Jack Adams Award
  12. Presidents' Trophy
  13. List of Calgary Flames players

There have been no new good articles or featured articles. Maurice 'Rocket' Richard Trophy has been given A-Class status due to multiple issues raised at FLC.

  1. ^ The last one, List of Calgary Flames players, is the only one not associated with the featured topic drive.
  2. ^ At the time of publishing, there were 5 lists at WP:FLC and 2 lists in the "Holding cell", as there's been an accepted guideline to not put more that 5 trophy lists at the same time to, "compensate for the sanity of the reviewers".
Did You Know?

By Maxim
There have been 4 new articles featured in the Did You Know section? on the Main Page since August.

Featured Topic Drive

By Maxim

Started by User:Scorpion0422, the aim of this drive is to make NHL awards a featured topic. A featured topic is basically a set of very high quality articles (good articles and featured articles/lists). In this case, the topic is NHL awards. Many users have helped, including Scorpion0422, Resolute, Serte, Hasek is the best, Maxim, Croat Canuck, Spike Wilbury, FutureNJGov, and T Rex/Dinosaur puppy. The progress has been very good; there are 12 featured lists promoted, and 2 good articles:

  1. Hart Memorial Trophy (Scorpion)
  2. James Norris Memorial Trophy (Scorpion)
  3. Vezina Trophy (Scorpion)
  4. Conn Smythe Trophy (Serte)
  5. Frank J. Selke Trophy (FutureNJGov)
  6. Lady Byng Memorial Trophy (Scorpion)
  7. Lester B. Pearson Award (Scorpion)
  8. Calder Memorial Trophy (Croat Canuck)
  9. Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy (Maxim)
  10. King Clancy Memorial Trophy (Maxim)
  11. Jack Adams Award (Maxim)
  12. Presidents' Trophy (Scorpion)
  13. Stanley Cup (Earlier collaboration, very many involved)
  14. Traditions and anecdotes associated with the Stanley Cup (Maxim)

Check the project page if you are interested in helping out. Although it's closer to being done than not, there's still work to be done. The next topic that might be tackled is Stanley Cup, but this remains purely speculative and in discussion.


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NorPac is Tier III Junior A... formerly a Junior B league. USA Hockey promoted most of Jr. B to Tier III Junior A this season... hopefully that is what you need... |||| —Preceding unsigned comment added by DMighton (talkcontribs) 03:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Would you be able to write that up in the article? Flibirigit (talk) 03:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

USHL and AHL Maps

I've created a map for the USHL so far. Let me know what you think. It's just a start, it could go in a completely different direction if you like. 100%; 50%. (The original is SVG and can be altered easily, these are just to show what it looks like so far.)

vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 21:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. They both look incredible. Either one is good. Flibirigit (talk) 02:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed Sioux City, IA and Sioux Falls, SD are backwards on the map.
That's why I showed you first. :) vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 03:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Otherwise it looks great if you could upload those. Flibirigit (talk) 03:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The second one was to show you how it looks scaled. I only have to upload the large one, you can scale it however you like. I should have them finished by tomorrow. vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 04:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
That's great ! Flibirigit (talk) 04:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Here you go: Image:AHL Team Locations.png, Image:USHL Team Locations.png. I had a problem with the text display as an SVG so I had to convert them to PNGs but that shouldn't be a problem. Let me know about any changes that need to be made in the future. :) vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 14:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, looks amazing! Flibirigit (talk) 20:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Australians have hockey?? :P I should be able to do those maps. All I need is a base map and I can finish the rest. I could have them all done in a few days. :) vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 21:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah Australia has one of the oldest ice hockey leagues in the world! Go figure. Flibirigit 22:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

SM-Liiga has a map, Image:SM liiga map.png. Elitserian has a template map, where the red location dots link to the respective teams page. vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 12:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

When I look at the map on Elitserian its just transparent, with no dots? Finland map looks great. Thanks. Flibirigit 13:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I didn't make the Finland map, it already existed. Here is the Australian map.

If you look at the code for the Elitserien map it shows that it is using a blank image with the dots superimposed over it. You cannot view a larger version with the dots. vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 13:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I still can't see any dots :-s Flibirigit 13:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the Australian map. Flibirigit 13:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
[1] ;) vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 13:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Wow.. thats an ugly map of Sweden. I like your versions better. Flibirigit 14:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, but I don't know how to get the links on there. I might be able to fix up the image though? vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 14:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Try starting a discussion on the talk page. The image is in use in a lot of places, I don't want to mess it up. I don't know how to do that kind of code. :/ vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 14:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: VEU Feldkirch

Discussion moved to Talk:VEU Feldkirch.

Ice Hockey Varsity Match

Discussion moved to Talk:Ice Hockey Varsity Match.

Ice Hockey in Turkey

Hi Flibirigit, Thank you so much for correcting the mistakes. I am still new to wikipedia, currently trying to standardize current articles about ice hockey in Turkey. I will write new articles as soon as possible.--Erdemselek (talk) 20:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Current Season

I was trying to fill the all the other information but I will write them to Turkish Ice Hockey Super League article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdemselek (talkcontribs) 17:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

ALIH Map

I'm a bit busy right now but I can make something soon, it'll be no problem. :) vıdıoman (talkcontribs) 15:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Ice Hockey March 2008 Newsletter

WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter

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New recognized content

By The Pancake of Heaven!
There has been numerous new recognized content, so much that it's too time-consuming to sift through the "trophy cases" on WP:HOCKEY. Some interesting achievements:

Task forces

By The Pancake of Heaven!

We are working to create a new task force within the WikiProject to deal with topics related to the Pittsburgh Penguins. It hasn't been created yet; but it aims to expand articles based on former and current Pittsburgh Penguins players and articles. Good luck!

New Administrators

Currently 0 promoted admins! Be the first one at WP:RFA.

Featured Topic Drive

By Maxim

The original featured topic drive, initiated by Scorpion0422, has concluded succesfully. National Hockey League awards is now a featured topic, with 24 articles in total. Of them, 20 are featured lists, one is a featured article, and the other three are trophy articles that were too short to become featured lists. Eight users signed up to help out, shown here. The next Featured Topic hasn't been decided upon, and the ideas and organization for it fell apart. If you have any ideas, don't hesitate to share them at WT:HOCKEY.

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IIHF

I've gone through and added the template to all the pages that exist for member nations (full members, that is). The hard part is going to be creating pages for all the members that don't have pages. We have to upload the logo, create the page, make sure the colors match, etc. That's definitely not going to be pretty, but it has to be done. Anthony Hit me up... 15:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

OUA Teams

I see you are dealing with some OUA teams... if you get the chance to slide over to the Ice Hockey Wiki... I have their league standings since 1970. DMighton (talk) 20:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Swedish Rookie of the Year

I am hoping you would be able to write a stub for Årets Rookie. It is the only red link on Template:Elitserien. I don't have any sources for it. Let me know if you can find any. Flibirigit (talk) 17:42, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I was hoping that too, but haven't got around to it (some things I set out to do never get done). Today I saw a source in English on the Daniel Larsson page. At least it is rather accurate, despite it is a borderline forum/blog entry. The background info about the award is a bit harder to come by. So far I have only seen that in Swedish, most recently here (no English page despite they attempt to be available in English). For example, there are facts to be found there about how much cash the alma mater hockey club of the player gets (the Swedish term is "moderklubb"), which people the jury has been made up of this year, and the short fact note that appears on Elitserien about which the awarding bodies are. There are also short wiki articles Swedish, French, and German. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 08:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
The source on the Daniel Larsson page looks good enough. Perhaps someone at Swedish interwiki might know of other sources? Flibirigit (talk) 10:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Krm500 created Elitserien Rookie of the Year today and updated the template link. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Namibia national ice hockey team

I have nominated Namibia national ice hockey team, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Namibia national ice hockey team. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

ECHL task force

I have been working on many ECHL articles since I joined Wikipedia a few years ago and am in the process of petitioning WikiProject Ice Hockey for a separate ECHL task force. As you have made many edits and contributions to relevant articles, I felt that you would be qualified to help with the task force. I am asking ten other Wikipedians and am hoping for at least five commitments before I petition the WikiProject. Would you be interested in joining this potential task force? Rik (talk) 19:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Old edit

Old edit, not serious, but I thought I'd mention it [2] in this series of edits you added some info to the article that was wrong on a couple of accounts and since I've only now gotten around to cleaning it up, I found it. Kangwon Land didn't make the playoffs in their first year finishing 7th of 9 [3] (I realize the title says 04/05 but that is a typo on the AL's part, you can see the 05/06 year on the chart itself) and in the second season they defeated Anyang in the quarter finals, they didn't lose to them. They ended up losing to the Paper Cranes in the semifinals[4].--Crossmr (talk) 02:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Traditions and anecdotes associated with the Stanley Cup/GA1. In particular I feel that this might be better classed as a WP:List article. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this consensus discussion? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

The article Namibia national inline hockey team has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Trivial and non-notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also see WP:SPORTCRIT. Full of redlinks. Created as part of a large swath of pages by a single user who has since left.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:47, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for switching that infobox. I didn't know we had one like that.. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I wrote both of them. Have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Templates. The project has many templates. Flibirigit (talk) 05:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I've seen that page, but must have overlooked that one. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Template:Hockey team is only meant to be used in Canadian Hockey League teams and its feeder leaguers. It will eventually be reworked to look more like Template:Pro hockey team, which was written to have more functionality and resemble Template:NHL Team. Thanks for editing. Flibirigit (talk) 05:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

IHL tasks

I see. Over the next couple weeks, I plan to work on getting rid of all of those red links in Template:IHL (1945-2001). - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the help. Some of those red links should be redirects though, see User:Flibirigit/Sandbox. I'm working on a better IHL timeline right now. Flibirigit (talk) 05:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, at my first glance at the template I thought there were a couple that should be redirects... - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Muskegon Zephyrs and Muskegon Mohawks are started. They are nowhere near perfect, but they're good stub starts. - Rjd0060 (talk) 16:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I find no connection between the Milwaukee Chiefs and Indianapolis Chiefs, other than the start/end years. Coincidence? Anyhow, the Milwaukee Chiefs are a very mysterious team; cannot find much info about them, other than the fact that they existed. I started the article though. - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

IHL

In Talk:International Hockey League (2007–) I stated my case, cited sources and now noone is participating in the debate. Where should I go from here? Acronjsmith (talk) 16:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Sometimes editors just get busy, or have a lack of interest or lack of knowledge on the subject. You might want to go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey and remind editors to leave a comment. Failing which, you might try Wikipedia:Third opinion or Wikipedia:Editor assistance. I'd like to see it resolved also, but I have no preference to the outcome. Flibirigit (talk) 01:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Steve Smith

Hockeydb has another Steve Smith attributed to those games. It seems like that site and Legends of Hockey are in conflict here; do you know for sure which of them is right here? — GT 11:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I know from doing research on hockey, that hockeydb is riddled with many errors. Steve Smith is also credited as playing with the Petes on the Memorial Cup rosters, available from the Canadian Hockey League archives, and on Legendsofhockey, which I find is much more reliable. If you are ever at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto, you can use the archives in person. Flibirigit 16:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I have a copy of the Petes' 50th anniversary history book and Steve Smith is listed in there both as an NHL alumnus and also in the team photos. BoojiBoy 18:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Help re. Herb Carnegie

Hi. Hockey question - I rewrote the article on Herb Carnegie in October, but someone has reintroduced earlier comments that turn it back into a anti-Carnegie screed. I reverted it to the earlier version, but I'm pretty new here and would appreciate it if a more "experienced" WP editor could take a look. Much thanks, Blotto adrift 16:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, appreciate the additional organisation and cleanup. Thanks for the help. Hopefully it will stay that way. Blotto adrift 01:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ice Hockey Project discussion of hockey player notability and project scope

Please come join the WikiProject Ice Hockey Notability standards for hockey players discussion. I'd like to see input from all our project members who have an opinion. Thanks! ColtsScore 23:32, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hockey players

There are two new articles to watch, Jody Lehman and Kevin Shmyr if anyone with expertise in hockey wants to look at these articles and see how they are doing wiki-wise that would be awesome. SriMesh | talk 00:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Hockey assessment

Just thinking instead of you having to page me each time, if you leave the project assessment as blank, I'll come to it when I go through the backlog of unassessed articles for the project. As it stands there's about 800 articles and that number is dropping, so it won't be a long wait either, especially once it's finally cleared. Just make it easier for both of us I think. Kaiser matias (talk) 02:05, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Patt Quinn help

HI Jason! I am brand new to Wikipedia. And have no idea about all this coding, but I know a great deal about hockey and want so much to help with your Patt Quinn page. A lot of it I know personally but can verify from public sources. For example, he went to law school only one year at that private school back east. He finished up in San Diego and passed the California bar in 1968? He used his newly acquired legal knowledge to try to double deal on my team, the Kings with whom he had a contract, and use that contract to try to get a better deal w another team. That's how he got banned from the NHL. So his law school and bar admission dates are important. Oh there is so much more.. He was not a nice man. Almost all of the links are bad in the article, for a guy who was fired from every job he ever had and was banned completely from the NHL, you sure can't tell he was anything but an angel. Bellafoxjr (talk) 17:05, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

I have placed a welcome message on your talk page. It has helpful links if you're looking to contribute. Flibirigit (talk) 17:17, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Ice hockey facts

Why can’t you put in Eric Lindros biography something about his injuries being attributed to him not playing for Quebec. It’s a fact. Ask any NHL player during Erics career. No one likes a whiner in hockey. The NBA is more suited for that personality. Thanks.

Ireallydontgiveaf Doesitlooklikeigiveaf (talk) 01:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

You must provide reliable references as per WP:BLP. Flibirigit (talk) 01:22, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Paul Thompson

I looked back and it appears that the year of birth was added in 2007 in error, however it was sourced in 2009 from a team page that is no longer available. It does remain possible, but I doubt it.18abruce (talk) 19:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

I actually found an archived version of the source used here that does list his birth year as 1968, don't know what we should do with that really.18abruce (talk) 19:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I would stick with the current sources that say 1965.Flibirigit (talk) 19:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

T-Mobile SearchTwitter Terms of Service | Search Results | PCGames-Download — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4898:80E8:B:0:0:0:207 (talk) 22:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Not to be confused with Don "Dunk" McCallum aka "Big Cal" AAA + WIHL + NOHA Hockey Player

Hello! I am a librarian in Edmonton Alberta, and I'm working with an older fellow named Donald Gary McCallum born Sep 6 1939, aka "Big Cal" aka Don "Dunk" McCallum. Donald is hockey player whose got his own incredible story to tell (we are working on a short film, and book). The problem is in 1965 Ed Chenoweth gave him the nickname Don "Dunk" McCallum after the more famous "Dunc McCallum", and this is how he's known in the hockey community (he knows Don Cherry!). This is a problem, because whenever he tries to tell his story, Dunc McCallum 1940-1983 is the first google result and people (including journalists) assume he is lying, or crazy, or a ghost! He does not claim to be Dunc McCallum 1940-1983. However this article is making it impossible to tell his story.

Rather than attempt to edit the article, or create an entirely new wikipedia article, and probably get it wrong -- I thought i'd ask you you to help by making a small edit. Something like "Not to be confused with Don 'Dunk' McCallum aka "Big Cal" AAA + WIHL + NOHA Hockey Player', or whatever you think woud be most appropriate. We have alot of evidence and material of Don McCallum's Hockey Career, and can provide such as necessary. We can also exchange contact information, but i'm not sure this is place? In the mean time you can get a rough idea of his career by checking the "About" section on his google plus page https://plus.google.com/114576262685036278812 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.161.203.11 (talk) 02:07, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Don and librarian, thanks for the questions.

The first thing we need to do is measure up the resources you have, compared to Wikipedia:Your first article. For example, to write an article on a person, Wikipedia requires there be reliable third party resources, such as newspaper, magazines, books, or online articles. It would be difficult to go further without those. I read the Google plus page you created. I am usure at this time if Mr. McCallum meets the WP:GNG or WP:NHOCKEY requirements. If you do have other questions, please do contact me here. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 02:30, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

HHOF articles

Yeah I'd say go for it and nominate them. It may take a while as the GAN process is slow, but it can't hurt to try. They look pretty good from my quick look, too. Kaiser matias (talk) 07:46, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

Information icon Hello, I'm Andrewgprout. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Don_Cherry, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Andrewgprout (talk) 03:48, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Category:Ottawa Sport Hall of Fame inductees has been nominated for discussion

Category:Ottawa Sport Hall of Fame inductees, which you created, has been nominated for conversion into a list. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:23, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Hockey Hall of Fame selection committee has been nominated for discussion

Category:Hockey Hall of Fame selection committee, which you created, has been nominated for conversion into a list. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:13, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

I want to make sure no work is lost if you choose to make a list article to cover current and former committee members. Here are the current contents of the category:

Thanks, RevelationDirect (talk) 00:16, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Russ Conway (journalist)

On 22 August 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Russ Conway (journalist), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. --DBigXray 05:54, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Baltimore Skipjacks

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Baltimore Skipjacks you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Lee Vilenski -- Lee Vilenski (talk) 13:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Baltimore Skipjacks

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Back at it

Any interesting hockey-related fellows or females you have your eyes on? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Just the two I mentioned in checklist 2 on your talk page. Flibirigit (talk) 03:13, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
David Bauer (ice hockey) and Bibi Torriani? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Correct. Flibirigit (talk) 03:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

A year ago ...
Canadian ice hockey
... you were recipient
no. 2070 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Could you take a look at this page. I added some detail of the story of how the Germans won the bronze, later I added how they did not know they had won a medal. Both times it was removed and I was wondering if you believed it to be in fact trivial or a valuable story. Not a big deal, and dealing with a likely sock, but appreciate your input nonetheless.18abruce (talk) 21:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I will have a look tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Aggie Kukulowicz

I see you changed the height to feet and inches primary because you state it's preferred by English speaking Canadians. Do you have any sources for this or is it just your preference? Avi8tor (talk) 07:15, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

The height is sourced to the newspaper article and hockey databases. Each use imperial measurements for height and weight. Flibirigit (talk) 07:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Can you give any citations? From my understanding Canada is a metric country by law, however that does not prevent any individual from using whatever unit they want as long as it's not in trade or commerce. Wikipedia is read worldwide and the majority of of the planet use only metric. Avi8tor (talk) 08:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
The citations for height are provided in the article here and here. The consensus at WP:HOCKEY is that North American players use imperial measurements for height and weight, and other parts of the world are metric measurements. Flibirigit (talk) 09:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
I would suggest that the Wikipedia Style guide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Units_of_measurement states that SI units are primary in Canada. The United States and Britain are the only exceptions for different reasons. Avi8tor (talk) 06:36, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
If you take issue with the consensus at WP:HOCKEY, go to the project's talk page, not my talk page. Flibirigit (talk) 06:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
It's on your talk page because you decided your opinion (public consensus) overrode the Wikipedia Manual of Style. So rather than get into an edit war I brought it up here. The defining authority is the Wikipedia Manual of Style.Avi8tor (talk) 05:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Wrong image for Lloyd Pollock

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Discussion moved to Talk:Lloyd Pollock

Hi - my name is Colin Stein. I am Lloyd Pollock's youngest grandson. The image for Lloyd Pollock posted on http://wecshof.org/inductees/lloyd-pollock, reproduced on your Wikipedia entry for him, is wrong. Can you please remove it, and replace it with this (http://wecshof.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Lloyd-Pollock-Windsor2.jpg)? I have emailed the Windsor Essex County Sports Hall of Fame to ask them to remove the photo from their website as well, and replace with a correct image. In addition to seeing the clear differences in facial structure and features between the hockey player and the correct image of Lloyd, you can also compare his date of birth (1909) with the apparent year of the photo for this Windsor Spitfire player (would have to be 1940s or 1950s) - this player is a junior hockey player younger than age 25, whereas Lloyd would have been in his 30s or 40s. Lastly, Lloyd never played amateur or professional hockey. Thanks in advance for making the requested change. Colinmstein (talk) 03:26, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

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1954 Lyndhursts

Just wanted to stop by and say great work on this article so far - I've always lamented the fact that our article on that team is so short. I have actually done a lot of research on the players of the team in the past years, for the SIHR (I even spoke to John Scott about the team & tournament years ago) and it's quite the story, as many of those early Canadian national teams are (the 1949 Sudbury Wolves who won 47-0 against Denmark at the 1949 Ice Hockey World Championships is another great one). Definitely a pretty interesting period in hockey history. Connormah (talk) 14:19, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
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I nominate Flibirigit to be an Editor of the Week recipient. An editor since 2005, Flibirigit has been an amazing asset to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey. They have created 290 articles (such as the recent Frank Sargent (sports executive)) however they spend most of their time improving stubs (such as George Dudley and IIHF Hall of Fame). Although he often works alone, Flibirigit embraces the collaborative spirit of Wikipedia and has personally encouraged me to become more involved in the Wikiproject. For example, together we made all the red links at List of members of the IIHF Hall of Fame blue and are currently collaborating on the redlinks at Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award. Overall, Wikipedia has become a better encyclopedia due to Flibirigit's involvement. This nomination was seconded by User:Puddleglum2.0

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ITN recognition for Moose Lallo

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EA Gilroy

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Hi Flibirigit,

There's a sentence I don't understand in the lede of E. A. Gilroy. As you've written all of the article, I thought it would be easiest to ask about it here. The sentence is "On the eve of the Olympics, Gilroy chose to allow the two players to participate as a gesture of sportsmanship towards Great Britain, and objected to Canada being portrayed as in protest." What is meant by the 'and objected to Canada being portrayed as in protest' part? Red Fiona (talk) 09:11, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

I have moved the question to Talk:E. A. Gilroy and responded there. Flibirigit (talk) 13:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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Precious anniversary

Precious
Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

WikiConference North America

Hi Flibirigit, long time no speak! I hope all is well. I am planning on having a WikiConference North America sports panel December 12 3:00 EST. This is something that has never been done before and there are many sports which are "native" to North America and part of the America identity. What it seems to be is that we (you, me, and other members of WikiSports) will be in a Zoom (or other video conferencing app) to discuss our experiences in editing sports on Wikipedia. These can range from combating vandalism to how to best get permission to use sports photos. The organizers of WikiConference North America (WCNA) created an Etherpad surrounding planning which I will link here. if you Command F "sports" you will find the section. This will be the very first panel WCNA has ever had on sports so not much to go off of here. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 20:41, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: I responded to the general call for feedback at WT:HOCKEY. Cheers. Flibirigit (talk) 18:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Bill Fitsell

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Hi Flibirigit, great to see that you are planning to improve the article on Bill Fitsell. Not too sure if you have access via your library, but there are a lot of great additional sources available through ProQuest's Canadian News, Business & Current Affairs database, which includes the Kingston Whig-Standard back to around the 80s. [7]. Cheers, Connormah (talk) 18:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Connormah: I am now aware there is a biography for Fitsell on the Kingston Historical Society web site. I am digesting the information and I feel it will complete the Bill Fitsell Wikipedia article. Flibirigit (talk) 02:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
That sounds great, thank you. I can perhaps ask around the SIHR group to see if anyone might have a photo they are willing to release under CC. Connormah (talk) 06:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Bill Fitsell

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I would guess, based on previous edits, that you are dealing with a sock there. And you are right about the poor grammar.18abruce (talk) 18:57, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Great minds think alike. Flibirigit (talk) 20:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

When researching a different Jimmy Roy, stumbled across this guy. While his article is very very short, he seems to have caused some controversy as seen here and here. Unsure what "professionalized" means but I will be working on this. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: please check for details on the Amateur Athletic Union of Canada that I have included in W. A. Fry and Cecil Duncan. It should help you understand more. To make a long story short, if any amateur played against a professional, the amateur was deemed tainted and had therefore become a professional. Flibirigit (talk) 23:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Will do. Also, I am shocked Gordon Craig (founder of The Sports Network and Réseau des sports) is without an article. I am currently working on his as well. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gord Renwick

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Seems clearly sock behaviour. Uses a SR reference to add a claim about the tie breaker that SR does not discuss at all, and mixes around a whole lot of other information to hide the foolishness. Same old pattern.18abruce (talk) 21:10, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

International Ice Hockey Federation

Hi there. Thanks for taking the time to contribute to International Ice Hockey Federation. I do not agree with your decision to move the section Controversy and limit it thereby to the article about 2021 Men's Ice Hockey World Championships (although it should be in more detail there!). If you strongly disagree, can you please explain your reasoning on the talk page ? --Jabbi (talk) 15:53, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

René Fasel

Could you please give me a reason for removing my well-sourced edits? It is obviously relevant information that is important to know to understand the wave of criticism. I have delivered sources for all my entries and all these informations were discussed in media outlets before.--KastusK (talk) 15:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

W. B. George

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"Baldy" is, as far as I can see, a college nickname only, not a widely used name in the same was as Magic Johnson. Instead it is more in-line with Gazza. As such it should not appear in the opening name. GiantSnowman 15:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

This should be discussed at Talk:W. B. George, not on a personal talk page. Flibirigit (talk) 15:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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Art Potter's birth

Hi @Flibirigit:, I came across your new page of Art Potter and realised you are missing his UK birth details. I have free credits with the GRO Index so I managed to pull out his birth certificate. Please find it at a temporary location here. To clarify it says born 8th August 1909 in St. Lawrence, Ramsgate, Kent to George William Potter and Annie Potter, formerly Craig. Hopefully this "completes" his vitals. Kind regards --Jkaharper (talk) 23:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Flibirigit (talk) 23:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Your addition there is interesting, but does not make much sense. When Canada lost to Czechoslovakia they had two remaining games, and only had one loss, so could have still won gold. Their loss to the Soviets put them in a position where they had to beat Sweden to win Bronze, which they did on the final day.18abruce (talk) 00:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

W. R. Granger

Hi, hold your editing for just a moment. I don't like the "revert" tag on my edit summary. I have already explain it on the edit summary and it's not disruptive editing. I read the article and W. R. Granger is from Westmount, Quebec, and Westmount, Quebec will be kept and there is no Category:Sportspeople from Westmount, Quebec. Do not put Category:Sportspeople from Montreal, because it's a dfferent city. I hope you will discuss first. OK? Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:F8D6:3086:6958:819E (talk) 01:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, I apologize on the "revert tag" coming out of nowhere on my edit summary. I know it wasn't my fault because of the darn revert tag. I hope you will still discuss with me. OK? 2001:569:74D2:A800:F8D6:3086:6958:819E (talk) 00:58, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
My mistake again, I have revert back to your edit and I read the article. Cancel the discussion and I hope you will respond. OK? 2001:569:74D2:A800:F8D6:3086:6958:819E (talk) 01:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Arbitration

You are hereby notified that I have requested arbitration --Jabbi (talk) 22:11, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

International Ice Hockey Federation case request declined

The case request about the International Ice Hockey Federation, which you were a party to, has been declined by the Arbitration Committee after a absolute majority of arbitrators voted to decline the case request. The case request has been removed from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case, but a permanent link to the declined case request can be accessed here.

For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 08:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Flibirigit!

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EA Gilroy

Thank you so much for the well researched and thorough Wikipedia page about my Grandfather EA Gilroy. Valerie Gilroy Winnipeg 142.160.96.74 (talk) 20:45, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. E. A. Gilroy was an interesting man to learn about. Flibirigit (talk) 21:36, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

as E. A's grandson, I wanted to thank you for the very impressive and incredibly thorough Wikipedia page

I too have been doing research on my grandfather's hockey career, although with more emphasis on his coaching/management of Portage's franchise in the MPL from 1905-06, 1906-07 and 1907-08. I am familiar with the majority of the content mentioned in your write - up, including the wrangling with the entire Maritime region, the protest at the 1936 Olympics, his business and political ventures, etc. but certainly not all the detail that was contained in your article. I did discover a picture of the Smiths Falls 1901-02 Senior team for whom he played, the only evidence I have of his own PLAYING career. Smiths Falls was part of the epicentre of the game of hockey at the turn of the last century, being part of the Ottawa Valley. Note that most of the players on those old Portage's teams came from that area - Brockville, Renfrew, Ottawa plus Art Serviss and Skinner Poulon who were Smiths Falls natives. I also heard numerous anecdotes from my father ( Rex) while growing up in Portage as a kid (e. g., appointing Clarence Campbell as head referee for an Allan Cup final, and bringing him in for a briefing (via train) in our living room at 144 Garland St., P la P. Sincerely, Ed Gilroy 24.79.86.189 (talk) 03:23, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. I eventually hope to access newspapers from Portage to add a bit more to the E. A. Gilroy article. Flibirigit (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Kitchener

Hey - Thanks for making that edit on the Rangers. Thoughts on instead of putting the image in the 2010's, and just replacing with the image in the arena section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DominicHennig (talkcontribs) 18:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

The Kitchener Rangers article would benefit from more photos rather than replacing one for another. Flibirigit (talk) 23:04, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:Infobox OHA team

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Help with Daryl Katz article

Flibirigit, I saw your active participation on WP:CA and WP:HOCKEY and would very much appreciate your input on my pending edit request. My COI keeps me from editing directly, but I would value your review of suggestions, designed to update and improve the article. Thank you for your time and assistance. DJ for Katz (talk) 16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Foster Hewitt Memorial Award

I don't know if the Foster Hewitt Memorial Award is on your To-Do-List but I think most of those articles could use some referencing assistance. I think I'm going to start with Joe Bowen. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Eventually it will be on my radar, but likely not for a few years to be honest. I've slowed down on how fast I contribute. I hope you're doing well! Flibirigit (talk) 23:39, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks . HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

User:Dweisz94 has been reported at ANI

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Dweisz94 continued disruption and not respecting AfD consensus. Thank you.

The user above has now been reported due to their continued disruptive behaviour. I just thought I'd notify you of the discussion, as you were once involved in this in the past, with them directing a personal attack at you here. AP 499D25 (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

I was aware and made my own statement. Flibirigit (talk) 01:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

George Nagobads

A couple weeks ago, you reverted an edit that I made to George Nagobads where I added a internal link to Latvia. Your rationale was: "revert as per MOS:GEOLINK, country names do not need links". I read GEOLINK and it says (underlining for emphasis): For geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. This does not say that countries don't need to be linked, but that directly linking the country after a city or other smaller territorial unit is inadvisable due to the dreaded "sea of blue".

However, I scrolled further down to find MOS:OL, which is the more relevant subsection. To amalgamate the guidance given there as it pertains to countries: Unless particularly relevant to the context in the article, the names of countries with which most readers will be at least somewhat familiar (e.g., Japan/Japanese, Brazil/Brazilian) are usually not linked. But try to be conscious of your own demographic biases – what is well known in your age group, line of work, or country may be less known in others. Basically, it says that countries should be linked sparingly, usually when they are pertinent to the subject being discussed, or are relatively obscure to the average reader. I think Latvia falls into a bit of a grey area where it could go either way, though I personally lean towards "obscure" as far as the English-speaking world is concerned.

In any case, the Manuel of Style is pretty vaguely written on this subject, so I wanted to look into where the community stands on this issue. That sent me down a whole different rabbit hole where I eventually found this RfC on the MOS:LINK talk page from 2021. The consensus there was... ah, who are we kidding? There was no consensus on that page.

I didn't realize that linking countries was such a contentious issue. I know for a fact that I've done it before, and while it isn't generally encouraged, it's not really outside of policy, either. My thinking was that adding links to countries was convenient for the reader (as it has often been for me), but if the Wikipedia community generally frowns upon the practice, I won't stand in their way. Kurtis (talk) 08:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

I feel that my edit and summary are accurate. Perhaps start new discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style? Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 12:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Technically, I think it would have been more accurate if you had cited MOS:OL rather than GEOLINK, but I guess that's just splitting hairs.
As for starting a new discussion at WT:MOS, I think I might, actually. It doesn't feel like there's ever been a very solid consensus formed either way, and I don't feel like the discussions on the talk page have gotten input from a broad enough segment of the community. I spent an hour or two falling down that rabbit hole, and I wanted to share with someone what I learned. It's one of those divisive matters where I can see both sides of the argument, and I could find myself being swayed in either direction. Kurtis (talk) 13:25, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Apologies

Hey, I'm sorry for calling you a troll. I got worked up over this. Your reasoning just frustrated me a bit. I'm staying off that section now. Conyo14 (talk) 02:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

June 2023

Most of the users you interact with are well familiar with an edit summary (I've been editing for 17 years)...we simply find certain edits so miniscule and uncontroversial that we often omit them.

You trolling certain users' talk pages can be considered disruptive editing, per such policies as WP:HOUNDING and WP:HUSH. Furthermore, they can be perceived as hypocritical, as most of YOUR edits don't include an edit summary either.

So try not to throw stones from a glass house, please, and leave us editors alone about our edit summaries or lack thereof. Thank you. Tom Danson (talk) 21:56, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Hanson Dowell

I am Hanson's grandson. I would love you to contact myself and my father for a chat , sit down and a few stories/ friendly banter. A better insight on my grandfather and his personal nature. If this is in any interest reach out to me at 9023095412. Thank you. Sincerely, Joshua M.M. Dowell 2001:56B:FFE2:10BB:0:2:B58E:EF01 (talk) 10:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

MOS:DATE

Hello. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aarne_Honkavaara&oldid=prev&diff=1182460620 is not a correct reading of MOS:DATE. See MOS:DATETIES. "For any given article, the choice of date format and the choice of national variety of English". The key is national variety of English. Finland does not have a national variety of English so DATETIES does not apply. DATETIES is effective for countries such as US, UK, and India. I don't read or write Finnish, but I don't think a Finnish person would write today's date as "29 October 2023" since "October" is probably not a Finnish word. Quale (talk) 13:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

As per consensus at WikiProject Ice Hockey, European hockey players use DMY formats. Feel free to discuss with the project, not on a personal talk page. Flibirigit (talk) 14:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)