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• Ah, okay. Thanks for the info. Isi96 (talk) 00:39, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. Please don't editorialize about whether a film was a "box office bomb", as you did at Unforgettable (2017 film) in this edit. Wikipedia doesn't label stuff like this. If a reliable source does, we can report their conclusions, but we can't come to our own conclusions per our policy on original research. Whether a Hollywood film made a profit is a complex and contentious matter, and there are people who are paid lots of money to analyze this stuff – or to obfuscate it, as in the case of Hollywood accounting. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

• My apologies. Isi96 (talk) 10:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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My mistake. My apologies; past time for me to take a break, I guess. X1\ (talk) 06:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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Raw Story

Good job on the Raw Story article! See if you can try to incorporate this Harvard study or this CNN article. :) Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 09:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take a look at those sources. Isi96 (talk) 09:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I took a look at the Harvard study, and it doesn't seem like there's much useful info there about Raw Story besides its popularity on social media. Isi96 (talk) 09:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, my bad! Those were only the first few pages. Here's the full study. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 09:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I went through the full study, and there isn't any information on the actual content published by Raw Story that I could find. It does have information on its popularity on social media, though, as well as its relationship with other left-leaning sources of info. Isi96 (talk) 10:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Yea, I think it may be worth incorporating some of that in the article. If you're looking for specifics of some of their article content, you should probably check out Snopes (like in this article) Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 11:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. Isi96 (talk) 11:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for your efforts copy-editing the Jamie Dornan article. I tackled the smaller sections a few days earlier but didn't have the time at that point to tackle the section about his career as an actor. I think between us we've covered the whole article, so the 'needs copy-editing' tag can now be removed. Do you agree? Neiltonks (talk) 08:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I skimmed through it, and there don't seem to be any major issues. Isi96 (talk) 08:49, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

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When citing sources, search for and replace WP:CURLY apostrophes. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:02, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay, my bad. Isi96 (talk) 01:02, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Epoch Times reference at 2016: Obama's America

Hi. Please do not use the Epoch Times as you did at 2016: Obama's America. It is not a reliable source. See WP:EPOCHTIMES. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 14:51, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on Hi, I'm aware that The Epoch Times isn't a reliable source (I've contributed to its article as well). The reference used in the article you mentioned was being used as a primary source for D'Souza's claim of how he was inspired to make the film per WP:DEPRECATED.

Thank you. Isi96 (talk) 15:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. As I see it, this is a WP:UNDUE problem: "Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources". The Epoch Times is not a reliable source. Robby.is.on (talk) 15:23, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on Yeah, I understand, but that particular claim doesn't seem particularly controversial to me, so I thought it would be fine to include it with attribution (The Epoch Times can still be used, just not for statements of fact). Isi96 (talk) 16:03, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think claims need to be controversial for WP:DUE to apply? My point is: if the claims aren't covered by reliable sources, they are probably not worth mentioning. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:07, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

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@Btspurplegalaxy Sorry about that, I had no idea that it was under review. Feel free to remove what I added if needed. Isi96 (talk) 02:22, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 02:23, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

If it's needed, I will add the impact content back. Btspurplegalaxy 🗩 🖉 02:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, I put some nonsense on the talk page of your bot sentinel article, not really making sense, but trying to get un-confused about what the sources are saying. Though...I guess that is not our job, and the article seems pretty good to me. A few days later I sort-of started realizing what was bothering me, it is where someplace in the article you say a report "shows" or "found" something. This always bothers me in journalism, an example is if an article says excess sleep correlates with early death, and this is reported as "research *shows* that sleeping late can hasten your death," I think Wikipedia can't do a literature review and then have the statement, "research *shows* that excess sleep causes an early death."

Even if a reliable source says a report "found" or "shows" such-and-such, I think unless it is a matter of objective fact ("bot sentinel found that 12 percent of twitter accounts are bots") using the words like "found" or "shows" constitutes original research on the part of the Wikipedia editor.

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Even if a source says that, Wikipedia can only say that the source says that. Wikipedia cannot say "research found" or "research shows.." except if it really is a matter of objective fact like a mathematical theorem or a chemical formula.

Do you agree with this, that the article would step over the line into orig research if it says a report "found" ...unless in this context it found bots? Let me know.Createangelos (talk) 02:03, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you're right, thanks for pointing it out. I'll update that particular sentence. Isi96 (talk) 02:12, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Cheers. I'm pleased you were able to follow my argument even though I am not writing very clearly (need coffee!).Createangelos (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Isi.

I do not understand your statement that YouTube is not a reliable source to elicit information regarding the content covered by the YouTube channel in question. Where else would you find more accurate information than directly from this source? Mbdougl (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

See WP:RSPYT; YouTube is not a reliable source unless the video in question comes from an official account, like a news organisation. Also, secondary sources are preferred; see WP:SECONDARY. Isi96 (talk) 23:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ian Miles Cheong

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A tag has been placed on Ian Miles Cheong requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Miles Cheong. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Proposed deletion of Ian Miles Cheong

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Ineligible for WP:G4 as it is not an identical copy, but see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Miles Cheong. Per overwhelming consensus, a non-notable Internet troll.

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Proposed deletion of Ian Miles Cheong

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Also fails GNG because the sources that describe him are in passing. There's no SIGCOV of the subject.

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Nomination of Ian Miles Cheong for deletion

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Gameranx

Unreliable source per WP:VG/S. Could you please stop inserting it? -- ferret (talk) 00:22, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

My bad, I was expanding some citations that included that site. I'll remove those. Isi96 (talk) 00:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Rfc - Richard D. Gill and Kate Shemirani

There's an ongoing RfC at Talk:Richard D. Gill#Rfc - Kate Shemirani radio show appearance of relevance to a page you have edited on (Kate Shemirani). Structuralists (talk) 22:10, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Ian Miles Cheong

If the article ends up deleted, given the time you spent on it, may I suggest you consider putting it up on Rationalwiki? Best - DFlhb (talk) 19:56, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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