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For a 'see also' it is better to use the template as here:
{{seealso|Huddersfield Town F.C. - Results for 2005/06 season}}
. BlueValour16:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your great work on Town's players. I have been adding 'professional' before 'footballer'. This is not a quibble but is needed to meet WP:BIO in case some self-appointed wikilawyer spots the article. Please add this to any other article you create/have created.
A further small point, it is not current good practice to wikify dates unless the year is special e.g. formation of the club and someone might want to find out what else happened that year.
Hi there, I've largely removed your recent edits to this article. I't important to remember what Wikipedia is (an encyclopedia) and what it's not... It's not a crystal ball, nor a rumour mill. Thanks/wangi21:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. BlueValour17:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
When you put the {{fc}} template into an article, you should be sure to prefix it with subst. The resulting links will be the same, and it requires less work by the computing servers whenever a page is accessed. So, instead of {{fc|Arsenal}}, you would put {{subst:fc|Arsenal}}. See the Template talk:Fc page for more info. Regards. Neier11:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Would be good if you could come up with some notable independent references to this list and cite some sources on its factual accuracy. The article is also completely useless without a date to give it historical context. --JamesTheNumberless18:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. Jmlk1711:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, many thanks for creating this template - it is a great idea. I have removed it from category pages, where templates are not used, and from Leeds Road since it is against policy to have such templates on disambiguation pages (and for that reason I have removed Leeds Road from the template). However, if you feel moved to make a Leeds Road (stadium) article that would be a splendid way forward. I have also reshaped the template since it looks better on pages when wider rather than deeper. I have pointed Players to the relevant section in the main article (to be consistent with the approach that you took with Managers) and split the seasons, adding the template to each season. I have also added the template to each FA Cup article. HTH. BlueValour21:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
because the subject matter is non-notable and can be found on any football website
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Regarding your message posted on the talk page:
He may not be such a famous footballer, but he is part of the history of the 4 football teams in his article and has been playing football for them, so that is why he shouldn't be deleted.
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Hi. I don't think certain players on the Halifax Town A.F.C. squad list should have wikilinks, due to them not being notable. Just thought I'd mention it as you're re-adding the links, and I think I might bring it up at WP:FOOTY to see what people think. Thanks, Mattythewhite15:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Please stop recreating this article. It was deleted as a result of this discussion and will be immediately deleted every time you repost it until he makes a first team appearence in the league. пﮟოьεԻ5714:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop reverting the defaultsort categorizations. It was/is correct. Surnames beginning with "Mc" become "Mac" and surnames beginning with "O'H" (for instance) become "Oh" for auditing and sorting purposes.24.185.128.2018:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Just a note to thank you for the incredible amount of work you've done in creating the wiki lists of episodes for each series of QI, v. interesting/enjoyable reading. Kaushik twin (talk) 23:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Could you provide a source for the material in the above article that you created? I can't seem to find anything verifying his existence, though I'm admittedly not the greatest searcher. Cheers, CP18:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And also for Harry Dennis, Joe Lodge and Ray Dring? I can't find sources for any of these people (except for Joe Lodge, who seems to be a cricket player, rather than a footy one). Please provide sources for all of these articles, and any further ones you create, or else I will be forced to bring them up for deletion as unverifiable articles. Thank you. Cheers, CP01:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, sorry to have made work for you reinstating his loan details. Birmingham said on their site that he'd come back from Halifax, but still (as far as I've noticed) haven't mentioned the loan had then been extended, nor have the BBC, which is why I missed it. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'm only second guessing but are you sure Jack Percival's birthplace isn't Norwood Green, near Huddersfield, rather than Norwood Green, London? After all he did start his career at Huddersfield. Peanut4 (talk) 20:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC) Yeah, my resource says "Norwood, London" JRRobinson (talk) 20:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey. Just wondering if you can tell me when Grundy was at Huddersfield. I'm linking a William Grundy in some of Blackpool's early season articles (1906–07, for example) and wanted to make sure it's the same player. - Dudesleeper / Talk21:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I sense your frustration at the Afd nomination. I did a quick Google search for "Spencer Harris" Huddersfield and got a number of hits - you may want to add some of them to the article. I would but I don't have time at the moment. – ukexpat (talk) 19:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You have previously contributed to the article Ronnie Wallwork, mainly in the context of his time at Huddersfield Town. I invite you to contribute to the article's peer review so that the article as a whole may be improved. Many thanks. Jameboy (talk) 23:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there - as a Huddersfield fan on Wikipedia I thought you may be interested in the article about Herbert Chapman, which is currently undergoing a peer review. If you have the time your contributions would be most welcome. Thank you. Qwghlm (talk) 18:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, there is a problem with your page move. If a new club has been formed, as seems to be the case, rather than the club in administration having been renamed, then we need to move the page back and create a new article on the new club. This is what happened with Scarborough, for example. Do you have any sources that clarify the position, please? Smile a While (talk) 03:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey. I noticed you've made a fair few edits to The Football League 2008-09 so I was wondering if you would take a look at this and see what you think of it? I'm just looking for thoughts at the moment, it's not a full-fledged proposition for change, but anything you add to the discussion would be great - even if it's just saying whether you like the idea or disagree with it. Thanks. Falastur2Talk22:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. You wrote this article about Tompkin some time ago - but had no deathdate attached to him. According to Cricket Archive, Maurice Tompkin died in 1956. See here.
Hi there. Just to let you know, when updating football players' league appearances, you can use five tilde characters (~) in the pcupdate and ntupdate fields to give the correct date updates. Peanut4 (talk) 22:28, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
That's OK, my friend, shame you're a Bradford City supporter, considering I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, but hopefully Tom Clarke will help you out a bit. JRRobinson (talk) 13:53, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, a friend of mine is writing a biography of his father, Alfred Brookes Sharman. Sharman played for Town in the 20s, but possibly only in the reserves. I wonder if you would check your record books to see if you can find any trace, please? If it turns out that he got a first team game then I can do a WP page, of course. Smile a While (talk) 23:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid that my sources have no record of an "Alfred Brookes Sharman" playing in the first team, because I was so busy over Christmas2007 and the New Year2008 putting up the record of every player who played in Town's first team, but I just double-checked to make sure I didn't overlook him. Does that mean you don't own a copy of 99 Years & Counting, the Town book? Do you not live in this country? JRRobinson (talk) 13:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, noticed your change to his year of birth. My Birmingham sources say 1902, but Joyce's Football League Player Records has 1901, so I'm happy to go with the majority, at least until someone comes up with his birth certificate to prove it one way or the other :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, noticed you'd added Kettering apps to the infobox and was wondering if you were sure that figure was just league apps? I know this gives 47 apps, but if he was only there for that one season, that must be all competitions, they only played 42 in the Southern League. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there. In line with other clubs' templates, I have split the list of seasons out of {{Huddersfield Town F.C.}} and created {{Huddersfield Town F.C. seasons}}. Unfortunately, this means having to replace all instances of the former on the Huddersfield Town seasons articles with the latter. I wonder if you might be able to do a few of these for me. I can do some myself, but I also have a fair few of my own tasks to be done. – PeeJay22:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, why don't I just request that bot do it? In fact, if I got a bot to do it, I could also get the hyphens in the article titles changed to endashes, thereby killing two birds with the metaphorical solitary stone. That OK with you? – PeeJay22:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Just pointing out this notice again as I saw you did on a few articles, would be helpful if you stopped linking dates. Cheers, --Jimbo[online]10:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi JRR, more than happy to make you a graph. I think I have all of the data I need for clubs in the English League. I'll try and make one this weekend for you - if you email me at payo2000@gmail.com I'll send you a first draft.--Payo (talk) 14:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- first club to be updated to 2009! I'll add it to the Huddersfield Town F.C. page but you better check that it is in a good place. Let me know if you want anything changed - slightly worried that the blue isn't light enough. Anyway Sorry about the delay! :-) --Payo (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. I was looking through a list of articles, checking stuff, and I noticed this. The birth date you put there is 1960, but the article says 1889. Did you mean to put the date of death? If not, it'll just need correcting, but if it is the year of death then the article needs a bit of tidying (add and removing the related categories). Carcharoth (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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No record here or here of him ever having played. No info on google. Fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:N
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I can only assume you keep changing the date format and bolding the inverted commas in his name on purpose, and for that you must have a reason. Therefore, my only question is: what is the reason for you to make these changes? The inverted commas are not part of his name, so I see no reason for them to be bolded, and the guy is English, so it makes perfect sense for the date format used in the article to be the international format (DD MMM YYYY) and not the nonsensical American format (MMM DD, YYYY). – PeeJay23:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You may prefer a certain method, but since Drinkwater is British, we should stick to the British date format in his article. Furthermore, I was originally told by another editor (possibly User:Daemonic Kangaroo) that the inverted commas shouldn't be bolded, so it's a habit that I've gotten into. I have brought the issue up at WT:MOSBIO if you'd care to have a look at the comment I've left there. – PeeJay21:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Could you help me with the numbering of the 1994 Autoglass Trophy Final please because I have put the line-ups on and I want you to sort them out and could you sort out any of the other HTFC matches please because I am not sure if they are right.
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Hi there. I've got some more information on this guy, and am about to add what is not contradictory. But there are a couple of inconsistencies.
According to my source he was born on 29 January 1890. He was born in King's Lynn, so surely it's got to be the same guy. As it's 29/1 vs 21/9, I was just wondering if you could double check the Huddersfield source? It also gives a quite long list of other clubs he played for (which I will add), but makes no mention of the Northern Nomads. I'm reasonably confident that he didn't play for them before he left Watford, because it states that he played for Watford and District schools. Should I move them to the bottom of the infobox, as he's more likely to have played for them after retirement? Regards, WFCforLife (talk) 18:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, my source says he joined Huddersfield from the Northern Nomads, where he played as an amateur in April 1910, and it also gives his DOB as 21/09/1890. So, I'm not sure what to make of it. Sorry. JRRobinson (talk) 19:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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As the reviewing administrator for these deletions, I need to offer you some advice. We are very glad to have articles about footballers, but they MUST have references. If they have appeared in games on the highest level national league---which is the basic requirement for them to have articles in Wikipedia-- there should always be references in the relevant national newspapers, usually easily findable in Google News and Google News Archive. There should also be a discussion or at least a listing of them in the web site for their team, and a listing in the general football web sites. These references need to be added, and they need to be added at the very beginning.
Sometimes I have been able to check articles like these before deletion and add at least one necessary reference, but I cannot promise always to have the time to do so--and football is not one of the subjects in which I have the most personal interest. It is not my responsibility to do this, nor the responsibility of anyone here but yourself. If you can write the article in the first place , you surely have the references in front of you when you are doing so, in order to get the names right and add the key statistics. That's when to do it, and it is your job to do it. It is unfair to expect others to fill in what you can do so easily. I expect that you will start doing this, otherwise you may find that you are wasting your efforts, because the articles will get deleted. I have other responsibilities, and it is taking too much of my available time here to do your work for you,when there are so many other things that need fixing.
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I am trying to clear all the unreferenced BLPs from the category: People from Burnley and this is the last one. Unfortunately I can find absolutely nothing about Mr Harrison outside of Wikipedia. Any chance you could shed some light of where this info came from? --Trappedinburnley (talk) 11:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A search for references failed to find published (gBook) support for this subject winning the FA Cup, as this is the primary claim to notablity the article fails WP:V and WP:N
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Hi, thanks for this edit but there are a few things I've noticed - firstly, please provde a reliable source so that we can verify the new information; please also use an edit summary to show what you have done. In the infobox itself, we do not italicise the loan details, and we should use British dates (i.e. 24 January 2012) rather than American (January 24, 2012) as the article is about a British person. Other than that, good work! Regards, GiantSnowman12:03, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Could you please let me know which source you've used to verify the birthdate you added to Richard Kiel? A previous search had been done to try to confirm the exact date, but only websites such as IMDB and other such compendia listed a date - no source meeting reliable sourcing criteria for BLPs could be found. Note I have removed the date until a source can be confirmed.
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Hello. Just a thought, might save yourself a bit of work. We're actually advised against "fixing" redirects that aren't broken, as set out here. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I see you created Horace Husler, way back - in 2007! I've been collecting pre ww1 Donny players for a list, and found this. I'm almost certain I found his birth year and death year on searches, and with that the correct spelling of his surname (there's only one Horace H Husler - as the song would go).
In the article it says he's a midfielder in the body but a keeper elsewhere - guessing you were using a template that had midfielder in it?! Anyway, would be great if you have confirmation of his position, and anything else about him. Cjwilky (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, when updating infobox stats you need to update the |pcupdate= or |club-update= parameter by adding five tildes (~~~~~), which generates the specific time the update was made. Cheers, 17:21, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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C'mon, that was clearly a typo (putting "20" instead of "10") - and please remember to update the date in the career statistics table when updating as well. Thanks, GiantSnowman10:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I have noticed that on two occasions now I have had to undo your edit and re-do it due to you not adding official match reports to results. The report is a reference that you did NOT make up the result, scorers, goal time, attendance etc. In future please wait until match report is available before making your edit. Cheers Skyblueshaun (talk) 22:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, years ago you created Willie Rogers (footballer), but there are no dates or references to verify anything. Any chance you could return to where you got the info and provide at least a date of when he played, or preferably a reference. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 12:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Is this the same player? If so, perhaps it you could use it, combined with whatever source you used to create the page, to flesh out the article. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 16:17, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Having now read this particular bit of the guide, "Consequently, if you are in doubt about whether an edit is minor or not, it is always safer not to mark it as minor.", I do understand the reason for blocking me, but it's not a thing people read straight away, and I'd have thought being safer would be making it minor. The little bits I do are literally what I'd call "minor", even if it involves changing little bits of information, so the reason I've been doing it, is because in my mind, doing something like that is "minor", and not necessary of an edit summary, especially when you can just look at what I have edited on the history page.
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Hi JRRobinson. I wonder could you explain to me why you think Manchester were definitely eliminated in their match against York on 3 August, while all of the other four losing teams have not been? You reverted my edit, but you did not leave any edit summary in answer to my own edit summary question. I have watched the episode again on iPlayer, but I don't see any clues. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that, as they had the lowest score of the five losers so far, they can't play for the remainiung two "highest loser" places. So the rules mean they must be eliminated. But this was not announced by Paxman. Does he have any discretion here, or are eliminated teams always routinely announced? Might it be fairer to wait until all first round matches are completed before showing eliminations? Not that Wikipedia has any remit to be "fair", of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Paxman never announces when past teams have been eliminated on the show, only if the team that has lost on the current show with a score that has already got a score lower than the threshold. So, since Manchester have the lowest score so far of the 5 losers, they're gone. JRRobinson (talk) 12:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I can see what you're saying, thanks. If the Manchester match, with that result, had happened last night, Paxman would have announced their departure. My only qualm is that there is no official source for Manchester's elimination i.e. I can't find any BBC results page. So we are applying the rules in a WP:OR manner? Maybe nobody cares. lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So any team that gets less than 120110 will be eliminated. If another team gets more than 120, Swansea will be eliminated. The cut-off score will very probably change as the contest progesses. Not sure what happens if another team gets 120110? Is this covered somewhere in the rules? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, less than 110, since that's Swansea's score. If the losing score is also 110, then leave it as it until it's confirmed beyond doubt. I'm not sure what the criteria is regarding a tie, cos last year, the 4th spot was actually a tie between LSE and Exeter, and we never found out why LSE got the nod over Exeter..... JRRobinson (talk) 18:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I meant 110, sorry. Indeed, why did LSE go through? Was it on the total of questions they got wrong? If another team gets 110, it will seem unfair to leave Swansea as eliminated and the new team as not? I suppose "confirmed beyond doubt" would be an announcement by Paxman.Martinevans123 (talk) 19:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Jr how are ?. I am just writing to ask would you be able to create a homepage for all the world series of Darts Events ?. There are none available at the moment. Regards Ronnie79 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.200.148.202 (talk) 16:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I am not liable to edit the whole page, A user is aloud to edit a single section if their do it correctly and have the proper sourced material to do so. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 07:24, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I thought I would send out a message to prominent editors who work upon the articles that cover each Series of the The Apprentice (UK). I have begun to start wondering if we, as editors, are doing the right thing by writing out these articles in a manner that seems to be not encyclopedic as they should be in regards to the general principle of Wikipedia. I state this because, over all of the Series that have been done, all information on each episode that has been broadcast, editors write out the Episodes in term of detailing a general review of a task, the setup of teams, who won and who lost, the reward provided, who was fired and why, and noting down notable events and such like associated to the episode.
Now, when QI's main article was made, editors decided to cover each Series by writing out everything that was discussed as an answer to a question, as if it was a fact of importance; even I was one such editor who did this. Eventually, a Wikipedian finally decided to end this by deleting the pages and just ensuring that the episodes were listed in terms of their number, title, the guests on it and who won that episode, and the Air Date it was first broadcast on (including QI XL).
The fact is, I believe that this is happening again in regards to this show, in that any Wikipedian who comes to the articles in each Series, are generally writing out information that appears to make the site appear more like a Blog, than an online encyclopedia. I fear that unless action is taken now to discuss what should be going into these articles, someone may come along and decide it may be necessary to delete these pages. I have started a discussion on this matter, over on the Talk page for the show's article, and would like you, as a Wikipedian who has been involved in these articles, to provide input on the matter.
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Hi JR how are you ?. I do editing on Snooker, Tennis and Darts. I want to add Runners-up finishes to each players wiki pages like we have in Snooker and Tennis. A complete list of finals. For example let's say Gary Anderson has played 90 Career Finals. He has 60 tiles and 30 Runners-up finishes I want to state this on the page to match other sports that I have mentioned. We have a complete record of all players past results on Darts Database so getting all the results is no problem as we have a great source. Let me know your thoughts please ?. Regards 31.200.177.241 (talk) 21:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK JR talk to me my man how will me go about doing it ?. I reckon if we start with the current big-names MVG, Taylor, Anderson , Lewis, Wade and Barney. They have won the most and been in the most Finals. After that it should be quite a lot easier What you reckon. It's long overdue anyway ?. Let me know, regards 92.251.170.253 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:16, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, sorry about that. Have been away and out of contact with here.
Yeah, it seems like a brilliant idea, although I thought some of them already had this sort of information on their pages, unless you mean doing something very different. Show me one for a starter, and I'll see if it looks good. JRRobinson (talk) 10:00, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
They only have majors I'm on about all career finals including PDC Pro Tour and European Tour Events. I'll have a go in the next week or so keep an eye on this page I'll message you prior to doing it 178.167.189.126 (talk) 01:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi can you explain to one editor that the above is not a Major TV event. It is a regular event just like the regular World Series events. It has not carried major status since its inception but he seems to think it carries major status this year. The PDC or darts Database do not include it as a Major. Can you have a word please ?. 178.167.164.191 (talk) 00:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC) Regards[reply]
Hi, I don't classify the WSoD Finals as a major, they're sort of a specialist event, in a way like what the Grand Slam used to be, before that became a ranking major a couple of years ago. JRRobinson (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't and neither do statisticians they count it like regular WSOD events, but one editor on here keeps changing it to a major I have to keep changing it back, will you send him a message about it please ? 178.167.205.14 (talk) 18:25, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Good work on these new Darts articles. It would be good to have better references than just a player listing at a darts database. Have a search and see if there are any news articles (even local ones), etc that can support each article. These players probably classify for subject specific notability criteria, but is better for their long term survival if they can unambiguously meet WP:GNG as well. CHeers and keep up the good work.
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It's very hard. Clearly, they seem to thing that ANY televised tournament constitutes as a major, which I can understand I suppose.... Maybe we're fighting a losing battle here... JRRobinson (talk) 16:20, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the PDC Order of Merit Rules. Rule 2.1 unambiguously states that the World Series of Darts Finals is a Premier Invitational Event, distinct from the World Series, which comes under "Other Events". Unless you have a reliable source that says that the PDC is incorrect in listing its own rules, can I ask why you are constantly removing it from the template.OZOO(t)(c)09:06, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Because it has not been regarding by the PDC as a Tv Major in any other year so why now , it has not been called a major by broadcasters and Darts statisticians who have regarding it as a WSOD TV event. Maybe they have just included in there as it is on TV I don't know. MVG'S previous WSODF wins have been counted on no sites as majors. Check the stats for yourself I compile data. 178.167.199.106 (talk) 01:45, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please use AT LEAST two sources for EVERY article you create, especially those on living people. And do not just list a darts website as an external link- use it as a citation and include a footnote. If you have any questions let me know. Thank you. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalenciaᐐT₳LKᐬ23:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Because if you look at the past editions of the event, after round 1, just the surnames are left because it squeezes up on smaller computers. It's a tradition that has stayed on for ages. JRRobinson (talk) 15:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In all the other tournaments, it's fine, the problem with the Worlds is that it has 64 players, so there are 6 "columns", so if they were all full names, it would be a big squish to look at for some people. It works perfectly on the European Tour events, which also has 6 rounds, like the Worlds. I personally think it's fine as it is for the Worlds with the shortening after R1, but for others tournaments, as there's more space, it's more viable to do it with the full name. JRRobinson (talk) 15:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The European Tour are Mickey mouse events. It does not look right at all having just the surnames for the World championships lets leave the full names in it looks fine to me ?. Nowrap would keep the names on one line if need be ok ?. I'm the guy who was in touch with you about keeping the WSODF as a minor event not a major. I edit lots of events on here also 178.167.134.49 (talk) 23:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to show you a screen grab showing the problem with keeping the Christian names right now for a computer my size, which is nothing to do with the idea of being against the idea, but it looks awful now, so I'm getting rid, and keeping it in line with the others. JRRobinson (talk) 13:34, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Now that it's been deleted again, if you want to re-create this article, I would do so at Draft:Tytus Kanik, and work on it there. You will be allowed to move it back to the main namespace when it has been improved to a better standard than it was at today, otherwise WP:G4 will continue to apply. Iffy★Chat -- 22:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Not a notable darts player. There is no SNG for darts, but a person who is currently ranked #1548 would probably not meet one if it existed. No non-database coverage.
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Not a notable darts player. There is no SNG for darts, but a person with a peak ranking in the 300s would probably not meet one if it existed. No non-database coverage.
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Hi, I'm Dan Koehl. JRRobinson, thanks for creating Harith Lim!
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Hi JRRobinson, I have reinserting the reference which you have deleted. Please keep the source intact when you minor tweak the wording so the content could be verified. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk)22:35, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, JRRobinson, thanks for responding (and sorry for my delay in seeing it). WIkipedia itself isn't a reliable source; please don't create articles unless you have reliable sources (if the articles have reliable sources in them, you can check them and copy them over.) Is it the same issue for 2018 PDC Players Championship 13? Thnaks, Boleyn (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The article 2018 PDC Players Championship 14 which you started didn't include the word "darts" until the name of one of the navigation boxes right at the bottom: I've now added it to the lead sentence. Please remember to include context in the lead of every article, so that someone who doesn't know what "PDC" means will be able to see what the article is about. (This is a common failing - I had to add "In tennis" to another article just recently!). Thanks, PamD15:07, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Not notable. Played 1 PDC tournament and lost his first match. The only references in this article are darts databases, no coverage from reliable media sources.
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Hallo JRRobinson, I’ve just written the acticle 1925–26 FC Basel season. Quote therein: Probably one of the biggest highlights during the friendly games, was the fixture at in the Landhof as Huddersfield Town visited. I noticed that you wrote 1925–26 Huddersfield Town A.F.C. season. I presume that you therefore have access to a good database. Do you know who the goalscorers were in this game on 25 May 1926? I would be very grateful for any information. Kindest regards from Basel --Huligan0 (talk) 13:16, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know how to talk to you. But why on earth are you changing the very correct page of 2020 PDC Home Tour?? I think it is not usefull and not logic at all to split the article. It is 1 tournament with one winner. By the way it is very hard to find the page 2020 PDC Home Tour Play-Offs.
It's not hard at all, Wouter. The play-offs are a separate tournament with a separate sponsor, so they're a different event, and I've already put the necessary follow-on pages on the Home Tour page, so it's not that difficult to find.... 13:42, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Darts players should be allowed in if they have played in a European Tour event or won a PDC Tour Card. They've done very well to achieve that feat. The rules need to be improved for darts players. JRRobinson (talk) 22:33, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Please review WP:NSPORTS for the criteria of notability for sportspersons. The darts players that you have been writing articles about do not meet the level of notability as they have not placed highly in major tournaments, won any awards, nor are the subject of significant (non-trivial) discussion in reliable sources. ...discospinstertalk15:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see anything under "darts"...., so something needs to be done to update it. These players I have put up have appeared on events that have been broadcast around the world. JRRobinson (talk) 15:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not every individual sport has its own entry. Being a participant in a notable event does not automatically mean the participant is notable. Tens of thousands of people run the Boston Marathon but they don't all get an entry unless they have won. ...discospinstertalk15:35, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Please stop creating articles about non-notable darts players. They are going to be deleted and you are just making more work for other editors. ...discospinstertalk18:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but why are these darts players being deleted. All of them have participated in events that have been broadcast, i.e. major events, and they all should have their own pages. I've put up as much basic info as I could. The fact that one of them has been in a World Championship isn't worthy enough for you is embarrassing!!! This website is supposed to be out expanding the knowledge of all matters of life, and these darts players have earned their rights to have pages. JRRobinson (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey there, thanks for all the help and expanding that new page I made. I saw you were trying to add another jersey to the template maybe? If you tell me what you're looking for I can help you out. DLManiac (talk) 21:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that was my initial plan, I just passed over it trying to get the page published before this week lol. I'll throw it together later.DLManiac (talk) 21:36, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've enabled 3 versions with "body" "body_old" and "body_older" etc. I think I've taken care of all examples I can think of. Also want to note that we shouldn't create new entries for just left/right sleeve swapping, and can prioritize the most recent sleeves in that instance. For example Belgium has switched red right black left to vice versa multiple times. And Lithuania is wearing opposite per each player. DLManiac (talk) 01:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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What do you mean styles that are unusual? You're the one who is changing them for a silly reason.... That silly format is unnecessary for this. JRRobinson (talk) 11:07, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Long story short, {{PDCFlag|Gary Anderson}} displays Gary Anderson. (without having to transcribe the country code or the piped link. There are avg and bold parameters as well so {{PDCFlag|michael van gerwen|avg=123.45|b=1}} displays Michael van Gerwen 123.45. They're also all spanned with the "nowrap" class so we can avoid having to use that.
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He’s just become World Youth Champion, that alone rules him out for deletion, especially as he has also qualified for the World Championship too. JRRobinson (talk) 01:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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These players should have articles on here. They've participated in major darts events. They're more notable then loads of other sportspeople on here. There's nothing on darts in WP:NSPORTS, it needs updating URGENTLY. JRRobinson (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nearly every football player is hardly notable, yet they only need to have played one football match and they're in, even in the lower leagues. These darts players have played in MAJORS!!! As I said, no-one has done anything for darts on the notable bit in some of these Wiki rules/guidelines. You're even threatening to get rid of a player who has played in the World Championship, the pinnacle of the sport!!! It's just ridiculous. JRRobinson (talk) 22:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The threshold is WP:SIGCOV (barring policy or other exclusions). The guidelines at NSPORT are generally designed as an indicator of meeting this threshold; they are not a guarantee of an article being kept if that indication is shown to be wrong (there have recently been, and continue to be, many cricket AFDs to attest to that). Footballers generate a lot of coverage, even at lower levels; darts players do not – that's just how it is. wjematherplease leave a message...22:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Per my earlier warning, and WP:LISTEN, please stop creating inadequately sourced articles on darts players, the vast majority of whom seem to come nowhere near to meeting notability requirements. Should you continue, there will be no option but to seek administrator intervention. Regards, wjematherplease leave a message...14:29, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello JR how are you doing ?. I think the legs won against throw is wrong for some players in the event. The reason I say that Gary Anderson was 1–4 down last night and got it back level at 5–5 at one stage. I only had live scoring on so I did not see the darts. Anderson had won 9 lwat the previous night and he is still on 9 so that is wrong anyway. Where can we check to find the right 'legs won against throw JR ?. Kind Regards 92.251.135.107 (talk) 09:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Back in 2008, you created George Raitt with a reference to the book 99 Years And Counting: Stats And Stories. I'm just wondering if that book contains any further biographical information about Raitt. Hack (talk) 06:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just wondering and hoping you could help me on something please if you don't mind. On the "Results by round" section in club season pages, when should the position be added. 1) On the end of the day of the game, or 2) At the end of the weekend/weekday when all games have been played? Thanks --Skyblueshaun (talk) 12:05, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Can you please explain why twice you have undone my edits and you've submitted the same section with exactly the same stuff. I don't have to edit the whole article every time, that is why their is a thing called "Update date" so other editors can see what has been edited and what still needs to be edited. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 11:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please stop undoing my edits to the Huddersfield Town managers page? As Corberan missed the Derby game due to COVID, Schofield took charge so it should be documented as such.
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Corberan was still in charge, he just couldn't be there in person. And Schofield wasn't in charge, it was all 3 of the coaches, Schofield just did the media interviews. In my books, that still means Corberan was in charge.JRRobinson (talk) 13:27, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No he wasn't though. He wasn't at the game and Schofield took charge. How can Corberan take charge of a game when he's not even in the same city?
Schofield did not take charge, all 3 coaches together were in charge on the field, as they clearly said, but Corberan still sorted the team out. As he said himself, he watched it from home, and he gave instructions as best as he could.JRRobinson (talk) 13:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As it clearly states in that link you put down "Corberan will be watching from home and will still have input, with his coaching team of Danny Schofield, Chicho and Jorge Alarcon overseeing the action against Wayne Rooney's crisis-hit side."
Hi JR how are you ?. You created a homepage for the above player under the article name of Lewy Williams and not Lewis Williams. He goes by Lewis and is listed by the PDC as Lewis and is also Lewis on their order of merit list. Can you change the name of the page to Lewis Williams (darts player) please ?. Regards 92.251.174.240 (talk) 10:04, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If you listen to all the times that he has played he’s always been referred to as Lewy, not Lewis, and arguably, it’s much simpler calling him Lewy on here, rather than Lewis without any extras on the end. JRRobinson (talk) 10:08, 4 September 2021 (UTC) JRRobinson (talk) 10:08, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But why is he referred to as Lewis in official PDC tournaments and order of merit. Lewy is a nickname. We don't call MVG Mike van Gerwen because it is his nickname. It is not about what is simple it is about what is right. 92.251.174.240 (talk) 10:11, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But unlike others, he’s actually being referred to as it by officials during matches, as you say the officials don’t called van Gerwen as MvG, but they do refer to Williams as Lewy, so I think it’s fine in my books. JRRobinson (talk) 10:14, 4 September 2021 (UTC) JRRobinson (talk) 10:14, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, I created separate lists for the affiliate tours "CDC Players" and "DPA Players". This way, we can use the same structure for these tours without adding all of those players to the main PDC list (Because it would get too large). To use these just add the parameter "org=CDC" such as Jacob Taylor. I'm gonna work on adding similar abilities for the other affiliate tours. DLManiac (talk) 03:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Once again, I am not being lazy, each section should be dated so I don't have to edit the whole article every single time. Sometimes you have gone a few days without even adding the result in, especially when Huddersfield lost. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 14:23, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. Do you have a source for "He also held the record in the "Pocket Money" section of the snooker-based game show Big Break with a score of £580, which he achieved in April 1996, breaking Willie Thorne's record of £540" which you added to the Tony Knowles (snooker player) article? Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, since it won't let me put the YouTube link in here, type in: BBC1 | continuity | 6th April 1996 | Part 1 of 3 on YouTube, it's there. JRRobinson (talk) 11:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any reason why the prize money for this tournament (held in Townsville, Australia) is in UK pounds and not Australian dollars? --Whiteguru (talk) 21:23, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Why on earth are you making unnecessarily reverts and submitting the exact same edits for yourself. Are you that desperate to be the main editor on the page for you to remove all my edits only to do them again yourself. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 11:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi JRRobinson - can you please explain your edits? It is officially called the EFL Cup and it should be consistent throughout the entire article. It should not be called the League Cup in the statistics section, that is incorrect. It should be called the EFL Cup as it already is in the infobox and the body of the article. Rupert1904 (talk) 23:03, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Rupert, that's perfectly fine. The problem was that you edited it, whilst I was undoing other edits by an idiot, and so yours had to be undone first, so I could redo mine. Sorry if you thought I was being disruptive, nothing against you at all. JRRobinson (talk) 07:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, please stop reverting edits I have made which are correct. I don't see the point in you reverted them and then adding the exact same date. Pointless. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I think you'll find that I updated the wording, as it was in broken English, and got rid of the unnecessary pieces in there. I don't see why it shouldn't be put live, but I'll "move" it, as you suggest. JRRobinson (talk) 07:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Correcting the wording of an article is fine, obviously. However, if the new version is based on the old version of the page, even with rewording, the page history must be kept together. JBW (talk) 09:13, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
I see you're creating pages for European Tour events. I'd like to ask, where do you get information for entrants, like when players from ProTour Order of Merit are announced (what is the cut-off date), or how host entrants are defined (like is it 2 highest host members from ranking and 2 host nation qualifiers, or different rules)? I'd like to create articles for future events, but it's very difficult to find something meaningful on PDC pages.
Hi, normally it's found on the PDPA website, but the PDC puts up the info just before the next ProTour qualifiers, e.g. for ET10/11, the qualifiers are being held on 11 July, so expect the list of seeds to be up on the PDC website a few days beforehand.JRRobinson (talk) 10:49, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi JR. Thanks for your recent articles on darts players and competitions. It's not a huge problem, but if you'll take a friendly tip from another JR from down the road from you: it really would be good to see more references in your creations. A citation at the end of every paragraph is ideal. This is especially important for BLPs and it also helps show notability, making it less likely they'll be nominated for deletion (which I see you've had trouble with before). Just something to think about. Otherwise thanks again and happy editing, – Joe (talk) 13:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Joe, nice to see a fellow West Yorkshireman here. :) What would you suggest I do to make it easier to put citations in to help avoid my pages getting deleted.... It's certainly very annoying that so many darts players pages get deleted for no reason.... I do try and put as many references in as possible, but some aren't as easy to find as others.... JRRobinson (talk) 13:32, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean disruptive editing...?? And besides, it was some idiot who changed it from Jamaica to England... It's not my fault if the only sources are just not brilliant Twitter ones... JRRobinson (talk) 07:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I think I do put lots of sources on my stuff, I do forget on the odd occasion, but I do a lot of good on here, and I don't see why I'm blocked, considering that there are loads of other "users" who constantly spam all over the place, whereas all I do is try and help improve all pages I'm involved with.JRRobinson (talk) 07:43, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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... at least not in the context of an excyclopedia that mostly follows its manual of style that says to avoid unnecessary capitalization. Parenthetic comments, e.g. "(second round)" are certainly not a place where caps are expected, nor are other non-initial uses of "second round". Darts articles should not be the exception. Dicklyon (talk) 06:33, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I get that to you lowercase letters make it "look poor". It's OK that you feel that way, but not OK to use that as reason to edit contrary to guidelines. Also, your use of Template:PDCLink in the same edit is pretty bizarre, as it's not related to your undo, and it's an obscure undocumented template such that editors can't even see what its intent is. If you don't back out your edit, I'll ask for a third opinion. Dicklyon (talk) 10:09, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I undid this edit of yours that re-introduced a bunch of over-capitalization that I had fixed, and a dash fix and maybe more. Please be more careful and only cap where needed, per MOS:CAPS. You'll want to re-do the substance part of the edit. Dicklyon (talk) 20:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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As a result of this discussion, you are now by unanimous community consensus, topic-banned from the topic of darts. This means that you are forbidden from making any edit that relates to darts, and if you do, you will be blocked from editing. See WP:TBAN. Sandstein 15:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No offence, but all I did was put in a fact. Someone else will sort it out later, so you've just wasted a reversion, and I don't see why I'm blocked anyway... JRRobinson (talk) 09:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Do you know why I didn't respond during that discussion...?? Because all you lot had basically decided I was "guilty", so it was almost the equivalent of a kangaroo court in my opinion. And now, since this "ban" has been enforced, there have been mistakes made on the darts pages, and I now can't sort them out, thanks to this unnecessary ban. You might not think I read your comments, but the fact is that there has been so much hypocrisy from everyone. All I do is improve the pages, this website is supposedly an encyclopaedia of facts, and the fact that you reverted facts that were subsequently then incorrectly updated has just made a mockery of this website. I have not done anything vile, threatening or defamatory, unlike so many other accounts on this site (not just on darts-related pages). I just wish that there was more constructive talk, but all you guys seem to think you're right about everything. There has never been any problem with anything before, so there shouldn't be any problem now, and now people like User:Onel5969 seem to want to delete pages that are helpful and informative to so many people, which is surely the point of Wikipedia. If I have offended anyone, I apologise, but this banning order has gone on long enough. I'm only here to help, and this is just not helpful to anyone. JRRobinson (talk) 23:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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You guys are just deliberately trying to annoy me now..., I shouldn't be topic banned. You're just hurting the online dart community on here now. These articles haven't harmed anyone, they're a good source of information. These things about RS and IS are just a ruse, as you haven't been bothered to do it in the past. I do more positive on here than "negative", look at my history, it proves it with all the articles I have assisted with (not just darts). JRRobinson (talk) 15:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was actually trying to help defend the fact that if the article is moved to draftspace, you wouldn't be able to work on it, or move it to mainspace due to your ban, and it should retain in mainspace whilst it's at AfD. Lee Vilenski(talk • contribs)15:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Lee Vilenski:@JRRobinson: (edit conflict) No, on both counts. I'm not trying to annoy you. I sent it to draft to give you some time to update it. I don't think I saw that Afd tag. Human error I'd say. That is really weird. Normally I would see those tags but I think it was all that lovely colour must have blinded me. I can post it back if you want. I think it should be in mainspace while the Afd is running. I don't know what the process for this is, although the stats would be update and be incorrect. scope_creepTalk15:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The only reason the page came into existence recently was because we had to split the 2022 calendar into 3, because it kept on timing out cos of the "PDCLink" links in the full article. So, it was one, then became two, then had to become three. It doesn't really need updating I think, cos it links to all the necessary pages, it's just a simple converging tool for people to look at all results at a glance. JRRobinson (talk) 15:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I think the topic-ban for me on darts is OTT. I do positive things on the darts pages, I make them accessible for many people. I try and improve them as much as possible, but it isn't easy, hence most are normally starter pages with primary sources. This ban almost feels like a breach of my human rights. If I have perceived to have done any personal attacks, I'm sorry, but that just shows how passionate I am about this topic. But, please undo the ban, it's detrimental to the site, not just me. JRRobinson (talk) 09:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).
My blocking is unjust, mainly because the topic ban originally put on me was unjust in the first place.
All I do is help with the darts pages, a topic underfed with articles on the site, and only since Christmas 2022 have some users decided to try and disrupt the tranquil nature that has been upheld by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Darts community.
I have NEVER done anything to make the site a worse place, all I have done is try and improve the information available, which I'd like to think is an obvious goal for Wikipedia.
I only did proxying (as you call it) as things always need updating, and I feel that it's my responsibility as a dedicated editor to uphold those virtues, and make sure that the site is up to date.
And don't punish User:Catb2006, he didn't have to accept my request, he just did it out of the kindness of his heart, and I think he's also in agreement with me (and probably nearly all darts editors on here) that the users who have suddenly come out of the woodwork for no reason have just ruined everything on here, regardless on whether or not you think it's following "guidelines" or not.
Also, I don't just do darts, everything I do on here is HELPFUL, I don't spam articles, I don't make derogatory comments on pages, I only make things better!!
The original topic ban should be revoked, as all I have done was try and maintain the status quo, which was NEVER complained about until recently, and this indefinite ban should be lifted, as my contributions on here are well documented, and I overwhelmingly do more help than hindrance on here.
All the other users who claim they are being helpful, but are just ruining the darts pages, should also be held to account. I know they'll say stuff like "WP:GNG" and "lack of secondary sources", but the fact is that it's not easy to do, and I think it's more important that we get more information on here to share with everyone.
The fact is that they made no attempt to hear my point of view and just decided to bulldoze along with their way of thinking, which is detrimental to the darts community.
You clearly violated your topic ban by getting someone to proxy edit for you. You had the chance to weigh in when the topic ban was applied, and you made an appeal that was rejected. Even if you disagree with this, you are still bound by it. You clearly do not think you have done anything wrong this entire time, and this request continues to show that. I see no grounds to remove the block which is necessary to enforce your topic ban. Perhaps the block can be removed if you can convince us that you will cease attempting to contribute in the area of your band until it is successfully appealed- but this is going to require some contrition on your part and a change in attitude which isn't yet forthcoming. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 10:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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It's you who clearly needs a change of attitude, User:331dot. You and your others have no respect. And I didn't get someone to proxy edit, I proxy edited myself, I just asked him to create a page, nothing more, so you're incorrect in that assessment. I shouldn't need to convince anyone, you lot have proven to me that you just don't care. I offered a civil way of trying to sort this out, and you've just thrown it back in my face. That just says it all... JRRobinson (talk) 10:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Asked him to create a page" is proxy editing, but again, you seem to think you have done nothing wrong here. If you want to sort this out civilly, that's done here and now. I've said what you need to do to be unblocked, though I'm not the last word, and you may make a new request. 331dot (talk) 10:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I never said I did nothing wrong there, I just said I did my own proxy editing, he did proxy creating, all of one page (and he could've declined). My contributions are well-known, but it seems I won't get a neutral admin to look at my case. I only did what I did to make sure things were corrected, nothing more. If that's a crime, then that's a harsh punishment indeed! JRRobinson (talk) 12:18, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I accept that I did wrong in proxying, but it shouldn't take away my ability to edit other pages. I still think the topic ban is unfair, but I'll have to live with it for now, as you don't seem to want to change your minds, but please remove the full block. JRRobinson (talk) 3:16 am, Today (UTC−4)
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I would have declined this unblock request as well. JRRobinson, you have made it unequivocally clear that you feel the topic ban was unfair. Even in this most recent unblock request, you seem to indicate that it is the community that has to change their minds about this, and since the community is unwilling to do so the topic ban must stick. No, that's not how it works. The topic ban was placed due to the community not accepting the nature of your edits in this topic area. The community has spoken on this, and you don't seem willing to embrace it. If the only issue at hand was the topic ban, acknowledging that you disagree with the topic ban but agreeing to follow it might (might) be enough. However, the proxying editing request you did clearly violates Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Proxying. Further, trying to defend it by way of saying you only asked for one page creation doesn't clear you of breaking that policy. The policy doesn't say "Proxying is allowed if you only request one article creation". Your actions are a clear, unequivocal violation of the proxying policy and a further violation of your topic ban. There's more too. In your response to the last denied unblock request, you stated that it was 331dot who needed a change of attitude, who had no respect, and who just didn't care. You can't seriously believe that insulting someone who denied your unblock request will engender a positive switch in administrator's views of you. And yet there's still more. As The Wordsmith noted above, you've engaged in block evasion in the last week. All of this combines to paint a very, very poor picture of the prospects of you contributing positively to this project if you were to be unblocked. My best advice to you is to stop violating the topic ban, stop asking others to proxy edit on your behalf, stop engaging in block evasion, and read Wikipedia:Standard offer. Maybe, just maybe, there will be hope there. The mess that has been created is entirely of your own doing. You've now been shown the way forward. Hopefully you will take the advice to heart and follow it rather than return to insulting people, proxy editing, and evading blocks. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:28, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's interesting how you say this mess was all my own doing, considering that if none of you lot had interfered in the 2023 PDC World Darts Championship page, then everything would've been as it was. No mess, no problems.
Instead, you lot angered the darts editing community, and decided to put your own stamp on it, something you hadn't bothered to do in the previous many years that I've been editing and creating darts pages. Then all of a sudden, you've decided to just destroy something that me and others have been quietly building up.
We haven't harmed anyone, we've not done any spamming, all we have done is try to expand the knowledge base, which is relatively low compared to other sports on here, and having limited sources doesn't help, but we've done the best that we can. JRRobinson (talk) 07:53, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You've just reinforced why the block will remain in place. I had nothing to do with the topic ban. I had nothing to do with your activities in darts related subjects. I had nothing to do with anything to do with your edits except for comments I made to you eight years ago. Yet, here you are asserting malfeasance on my part in regards to your area of interest. This isn't a me thing. This is a you thing. It is my recommendation that until you begin to embrace your role in this problem, the block should remain in place. Wikipedia:Standard offer applies. But, if you persist in the behaviors I outlined above, it will never be applied. You can either choose to be a member of this community or choose to be permanently separated from it. Choosing to be a member of it doesn't entail the behaviors you have exhibited so far. Rather the opposite. --Hammersoft (talk) 12:44, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to the "royal you", as in everyone, not just "you yourself". But, I don't see why I should be banned for 6 months. I've already owned up that it was a mistake to do the proxying, but pages needed updating, and no-one was doing it...
The fact is that so many pages do need editing and updating (not just darts ones), and I need to update them, because no-one else will do, or if they do, it'll be super shoddy work. JRRobinson (talk) 07:08, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
JRR, I'm getting concerned that if you don't stop arguing that you shouldn't have been banned in the first place, that you're the only one working, that if anyone else does the work it'll be shoddy, that someone is going to remove talk page access.
I'm not sure you fully realize it, but you haven't been topic-banned for six months. You've been topic-banned with the ability to appeal after six months. This means you need to clean up your act completely during these six months, or there is no chance the appeal will succeed/ban will be lifted. Your ban was placed 3/10, which in theory means you could appeal on 9/10, but for all practical purposes I would say anything before 10/6 would result in an immediate rejection of the appeal, and that's if you get it through your head right now that you need to completely change your attitude.
I'm not referring to the topic ban in this case, User:Valereee, I'm talking about my block from editing altogether, which you placed on me yourself. I've given up on getting the topic-ban overturned, cos that's clearly not happening any time soon... (although I've just seen that a prominent darts page has just been deleted for no reason whatsoever).
But, I don't think the complete block should be on me, as I have proven that I'm important on here, regardless of what I might've done, regarding the proxying, etc.
If I had proxied and spammed the site with rubbish, fair enough, but that's just not the case. I just couldn't help and see the site be riddled by errors, regardless of what you think about me. I think about the bigger picture, I just help people out. JRRobinson (talk) 12:04, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, let's talk about the indef, which was placed because you refused to pivot away from the area of the t-ban. There is no chance anyone is going to lift this unless they believe you'll stop doing what you've been doing. And the only way anyone is going to believe that is if they see, in your unblock request:
You understand the full scope of what you are not allowed to do
You promise you'll comply
And that is all that you should be saying in the unblock request. Arguing your grievances or making excuses for your non-compliance in the unblock request not only does not help but actually hurts your chances. Valereee (talk) 12:26, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At this point, I think we're in WP:LISTEN territory. JRRobinson, you talk of another darts page being deleted for "no reason whatsoever". Seriously? Do you think administrators go around deleting things for no reason? Obviously there's a reason, and that reason complies with Wikipedia:Deletion policy. If you're referring to this AfD, it was a properly filed AfD that ran for the appropriate amount of time and had NOBODY agreeing the article should remain. That's isn't "no reason whatsoever". I just don't think you're getting it. Completely irrespective of your topic ban, you don't seem to be understanding that creating articles based largely or entirely on primary sources is a non-starter. I'm sure you've been referred to this before, but just in case you haven't please carefully read WP:PRIMARYSOURCE, especially where it says "Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them." This is the problem you keep having, and it's not constrained to darts pages. I note this article creation where you did the same problem. Virtually the entire article is based on primary sources. You say you're not creating rubbish? According to WP:PRIMARYSOURCE, that's exactly what you're doing. You insist you are correct, but you're not. You also don't seem to learn from past mistakes. I wasn't a big fan of your block back in 2015 about edit summaries, but that doesn't take away from the reality of community expectations. In the last 100 mainspace edits you've made, only 5 had edit summaries. Just 5%. Further, you're still marking edits that clearly aren't minor as minor [4]. The reality is it doesn't matter that you're topic banned from darts. Your behaviors that are outside of community expectations are going to keep happening. You're so motivated to do what you think is right that you're willing to violate our proxying policy, and are willing to continue to evade your block and topic ban by using IPs. You don't seem willing to engage in working with the community, but instead insist the community has it wrong, nobody can do the work you do, and you're the best person for the work. This sort of attitude is not in keeping with how Wikipedia works. I'm not going to review your block request, but I would deny it if I did. If another administrator agrees with your unblock request, I strongly suspect you're going to continue the behaviors that got you topic banned in the first place (again ref the Headley article). It's the same problematic pattern. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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There's something really fishy going on here with regards to User:Drinkdrinker. This is exacerbated by the fact that you've been evading your topic ban by editing while logged out, which leads me to assume a lot less good faith when you deny operating a sock puppet. You also seem to believe that updating articles in your pet topic area is more important than following the site's policies. I don't really think Wikipedia is the right website for you. Instead, you should try a free web host, where you can write whatever you want. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:19, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Is that any better though? In the best possible light for JRR, we are saying that they had no influence at all with this, but still supporters are happy to vandalise Wikipedia to prove a point. My prior support of removing the block was based on giving them a last chance at behaving and being collaborative. We know they are capable of PROXYING, so I wouldn't put past them to have orchestrated this either. Lee Vilenski(talk • contribs)16:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have nothing to do with this at all, I've no idea who that user is. Nothing to do with me, I've been out all day with limited signal and have only just seen this barrage of messages seemingly accusing me of anything to do. All I'll say is that the anger you have caused with the darts pages fiasco is not mine alone. JRRobinson (talk) 16:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC) JRRobinson (talk) 16:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would you denounce vandalism and disruption as a means of expressing anger about any grievances related to darts articles? 331dot (talk) 16:39, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What a silly question…, Of course I denounce it!! Vandalism gets nowhere, it only makes it worse for me, if I ever got back to editing pages again… JRRobinson (talk) 16:42, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the recent ones are nothing to do with me, I don't care about BDO/WDF darts pages. The idiots who did those are bone idle/lazy, and I have no interest in those pages. I only edited the odd ones ages ago mainly to neaten them up… JRRobinson (talk) 18:22, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no sock puppetry ambitions, mainly cos I don't really know or care about it… I had no idea someone had brought back the deleted page (although I'm glad it has been brought back, since it shouldn't have been deleted in the first place).
But, I haven't spoken with anyone or told anyone to do anything (other than the already mentioned think with Catb), and I just want my block to be removed so I can get back to some sort of normality… JRRobinson (talk) 10:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If it helps, User:Drinkdrinker has revealed himself to me in private, and he tells me that he, like me is annoyed with all the stuff that has happened with the darts articles too. But, he says he only uses it occasionally. So, please try and see what we feel like too. I'm not defending spamming/vandalism, but you've seen what it has done to some people. JRRobinson (talk) 13:06, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It could mean he mostly edits logged out, which isn't itself a problem. I edited logged out for a decade unless a particular edit required me to log in. Valereee (talk) 14:17, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if someone asks if you use other accounts, and you say "I don't", but you do edit as an IP, that is a violation of our standards and considered sockpuppetry. Even if this were to be found to be two separate people being completely independent, would that really excuse vandalism by one, and the ban evasion and general battleground mentality of the other? Lee Vilenski(talk • contribs)14:56, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It might if they were ignorant about whether an IP is an "account". Honestly none of these people appear to be very engaged with policy. Valereee (talk) 15:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because no-one cares about policy, as I've been trying to tell you…, all we care about is updating the pages, and making them more accessible to everyone. It might not suit your narrative, but it's what we darts fans have liked, and now you're trying to take it away from us.
I know you won't like what I'm saying here, but that's what we like, and it feels like that the equivalent of "pen-pushing bureaucrats" have been stopping us from doing that to the wider world. JRRobinson (talk) 21:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Darts articles on Wikipedia are not a special part of Wikipedia until itself. They must comply with policy just as the rest of the project must. You've been pointed to WP:PRIMARYSOURCE, at least once by me and probably by others as well. Continuing to make articles that are based mostly or entirely on primary sources is NOT how we do things. You can call us as many names as you like. It's not going to change this. If you want to change that policy, the way to do that is to start a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Trying to say it doesn't apply to Darts because nobody cares about it doesn't make it go away, neither does it make any of the rest of us trying to enforce this policy into pen-pushing bureaucrats. If you are unblocked, are you going to continue making articles that violate WP:PRIMARYSOURCE? --Hammersoft (talk) 23:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As I have said before, I don't willingly try and break that rule, but it is very limited in terms of sources, compared to other sports, and normally a single source, is better than no source. And I'm not trying to say that the policy doesn't apply to darts, it's just the mindset of the people who edit it. I'm not saying it's right, it's just the way it is, and no-one cared for ages… But, I'll look at that Village pump thing you've just mentioned. JRRobinson (talk) 08:36, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
JRR, no-one cares about policy is both the underlying reason you've been blocked and the explanation I was trying to give -- which was an argument in your favor, if you'd look a little closer at what I said -- for why perhaps we shouldn't assume there's socking or even intentional meatpuppeting going on.
Here's the thing: if you refuse to care about policy, we don't have a place for you here. It really is that simple. You'll need to go find a darts website where they don't care that you don't care. Valereee (talk) 12:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I care about policy, what I'm trying to point out to you is that the average person NEVER does. To them, it's just nitpicking, and they hate people like you who take it too seriously. (It's just a fact, not saying I agree.)
And as I've said before, I have many other strings to my bow, other than darts pages, and I'm not happy that I see still have a general block, when other non-darts pages I regularly update are being left behind, so can we please get me unblocked, and we can sort out this out at another time, please… JRRobinson (talk) 12:52, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I have got nothing to do with Drinkdrinker being a sockpuppet. I just want to return to a state of normality, which I will do if you give me the chance to prove myself. I've already said I won't even bother trying to get involved with darts pages, so please just let me get out of your hair and let me return to regular editing.
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User:Valereee, is there a reason why my block hasn't been lifted yet...?? It's been a week, and I haven't done anything of any description, no proxying, no sockpuppeting, and yet I'm still not unblocked... JRRobinson (talk) 06:48, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, JRR. The block is indefinite, which means it's in place until you convince an admin that it isn't needed. So far you've had three admins in here who haven't been convinced, a fourth who was arguing to give you a another chance until the vandalism by Drinkdrinker, and another who is recommending further review wait until the sockpuppet investigation is completed. I've already stated that I have no objection to another admin lifting the block if they're convinced it's no longer needed; in the case of five other admins who aren't currently in support of that there's not much I can do.
In the meantime I've spent a ton of time giving you advice, and honestly it feels like I've just been throwing my time down the drain. But I'll try one more time: go edit Simple Wikipedia productively and unproblematically. Avoid darts topics, just to prove you are able and willing to comply. Do that for a few weeks. I don't know if it'll actually help, but it can't hurt. Valereee (talk) 10:56, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But, why can't you unblock it yourself? I've told you that I said I'll avoid all darts topics, I just want to be back doing normal stuff again. It's not my fault that Drinkdrinker decided to try and ruin it for me, he's not my concern. JRRobinson (talk) 11:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The fact I was the blocking admin doesn't give me any special authority over an unblock. Blocking and unblocking isn't a unilateral decision. It may look like one -- one admin blocks, another unblocks -- but the underlying expectation is that we are doing what any other admin would do and/or what we believe there would be support for. In this case, I know that five other admins are not convinced the block is unneeded. Valereee (talk) 11:23, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
5 out of how many there are...., no idea what the number is... Surely, if I can convince you, the person who did the block, then surely you can just undo the block. As you say yourself, you haven't got any special authority, which surely means that you can do it, just like any other admin can... You and whoever it was said you were willing to give me WP:ROPE, and now let me use it. It's not helping anyone here, articles that I normally look after (not including darts one) are being badly edited, and I can't sort it out..., please let me get back to doing what I do... JRRobinson (talk) 12:47, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Where I am is borderline. I think I'm where Lee Vilenski at least was; WP:ROPE territory. I still get a sense of WP:IDHT. I strongly suspect that we'll see a bunch of article creations or expansions outside of darts that will be based largely on primary sources, and we'll be back to talking about another topic ban. Drinkdrinker isn't the problem here. JRRobinson, what we are trying to do is have you comply with community standards in writing the encyclopedia. Nobody is trying to be draconian and hold an axe over your head of do-this-or-else. I wouldn't object to the block being lifted, but I have serious doubts about where we will be down the road on this. I hope I'm wrong. I won't do the unblock review, as I think at this point it would be inappropriate for me to do so. JRRobinson, understand that Category:Requests for unblock is backlogged. There are requests there that are months older than yours. I don't expect this unblock request to be processed quickly. It will take a fair bit of time for an uninvolved admin to spin up on what the issues here are in order to come to an appropriate decision. Personally, I would want to do everything I could to make it as simple as possible for the reviewing admin. I would assert that I would comply in all respects with the topic ban on darts and related subjects, I would assert that I will never again engage in proxying or sockpuppeting, I would assert that moving forward I would use primary sources only sparingly, and I would self-ban myself from creating new articles on any subject for the same length of time as the topic ban on darts. Make it digestible; use a bulleted list. I would assiduously avoid making any statement that asserts in any way that I was ever right in any of this. Best of luck, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:58, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I already said that the last time, and then that sockpuppet rubbish came up from nowhere, which everyone pinned on me. Interesting that you say everything is backed up, considering that I got declined 3 times before, and each of those were done within 2 days or so, whereas this time I had to pipe up, after no-one could be bothered to look at it after a week... And why wouldn't you want to be put in charge of unblocking me, you could have the casting decision..., I'm putting my fate literally in your hands. Let me prove to you that I won't go back to the darts pages, and just let me get on with my other stuff. JRRobinson (talk) 13:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because at this point while I am technically not in violation of WP:INVOLVED, I am not unbiased in my approach to this unblock. That's enough for me to feel it would be inappropriate for me to review it. It's true; sometimes unblocks are reviewed quickly. But, as the situation becomes more complex to an uninvolved admin, it becomes increasingly difficult to find an administrator willing to devote the time to it to come to an appropriate decision. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:17, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, you're really arguing that because you got faster-than-usual response three times in a row that you somehow deserve to keep jumping the line? At this point the more likely response is going to be removal of talk page access for continued failed unblock requests. Please go read WP:STOPDIGGING. Valereee (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not suggesting that I deserve to jump the line, but it seemed that my guilt was so easy to give a decline immediately on the previous 3 occasions..., yet this time nothing happened, until I gave it a prod... JRRobinson (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum; you're asserting that some articles of interest to you are being badly edited. The problem is that your interpretation of "good" and "bad" has led to you being topic banned from darts. This is going to affect your editing in other areas as well. As I said above, you need to learn the community standards in writing the encyclopedia. --Hammersoft (talk) 12:58, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As the editor who originally brought JRR to ANI, I have to shake my head at The original topic ban should be revoked, as all I have done was try and maintain the status quo, which was NEVER complained about until recently, and this indefinite ban should be lifted, as my contributions on here are well documented, and I overwhelmingly do more help than hindrance on here.Name calling is not a help and nothing I've seen in the intervening months indicates this is an editor who can act productively. I won't take action as I'm obviously involved, but I would absolutely decline this request and consider yanking TPA. StarMississippi17:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since I commented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JRRobinson I'm also not going to decline it, but add in the behavioral evidence of block evasion and the open SPI cases on top of the issues that led to the block and there is a strong case that an unblock would not be beneficial to anyone at this time. - Aoidh (talk) 21:58, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
JRRobinson, if Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JRRobinson concludes that you have been sockpuppeting, you might as well kiss Wikipedia:Standard offer goodbye at least for the time being. I noted Wikipedia:Standard offer back to you on April 4 [5]. If it turns out you were sockpuppeting after that point, then I'm sure many (including me) would feel that the standard offer would be inappropriate. Standard offer notes "Wait at least six months, without sockpuppetry or block evasion". If it's true you've been sockpuppeting, then you are running as fast and hard as you can to never being unblocked again. You've been here 17 years, with 43k edits. If it's true, you're throwing away all of that in favor of managing to get in a few edits on a small handful of articles. Why? You've been given a lot of advice here by a lot of people. Most (but thankfully not all) of it has fallen on deaf ears. If you ever want to be a part of this project again, I strongly...in the most adamant of terms...recommend you reconsider your entire approach to this project. For the record, I'm now against unblocking until the sockpuppet case concludes. If you have been sockpuppeting, it's better to come clean now and stop wasting everyone's time trying to investigate this. I'm not asking you to out yourself (i.e., don't comment on the IPs), but if you've used registered accounts to do so please save us the effort of having to keep investigating this and acknowledge it. That would at least bring some small token to the table of willingness to work with the community rather than against it. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:24, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just a short note: this template was generated automatically. In fact, this article was deleted after AfD and I restored and draftified it following a request on mt talk page by Haifisch7734. What a mess here, I admire the patience of all the admins and other editors who have spent a lot of time and effort to explain how WP works to an editor who has a severe case of WP:IDHT...--Randykitty (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable darts player; fails WP:BASIC & WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage in independent secondary reliable sources. Only sources are databases and routine darts results.
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Good morning. At the 2023 World Cup of Darts, you get 2 points for winning a match in a group, not 1, please don't change that. Szymiiiii (talk) 11:46, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi how are you doing ?. There is no homepage for either of these two World Series events that have been played in 2023.
Would you be able to create a homepage for both of these events please ?.
I do not know how to do it myself.
Can you help out please ?.
Hi, I would love to, but I'm currently blocked from editing by the evil people on here who are trying to destroy darts pages. That's why I'm busy on Fandom now. JRRobinson (talk) 14:50, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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