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18:15, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Three Wise Men
Hey you put in a request in the resource exchange for a page out of Volcano: A Visual Guide. The text is pretty short, so here it is verbatim:
"The floor of the Pacific Ocean has more seamounts, or underwater volcanoes, then any other ocean. Undersea volcanos, as other volcanoes, form from molten lava produced where the edges of the Earth's plates bump into, slide under, or grate against each other. A row of three submarine volcanoes, called The Three Wise Men, grew along a spreading mid-ocean ridge called the East Pacific Rise. The Three Wise Men are a part of a seamount field called he Rano Rahi in the Pacific Ocean. The Rano Rahi seamount field is known for its numerous chains of submerged volcanoes. The Three Wise Men are between 1000 and 2000m tall. In his image, green indicates deep areas and red and white more shallow.
Alongside a bathymetric illustration.
Hope that's helpful! ResMar 01:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Resident Mario:. As it happens to be, someone else already sent me a screenshot of the page. I just needed to know that these volcanoes are part of the Rano Rahi seamounts, since I wrote the article about them. Cheers. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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- I'll work on this as part of the general article expansion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:17, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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17:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
toggle ref check
Hello, just a note to say that User:Lingzhi2/reviewsourcecheck has been update to add the option to toggle it on or off.
The installed script will add a tab to the drop-down tab at the top, located between the 'watchlist star' and the search box (using the vector.js skin). The tab toggles between "Hide ref check" and "Show ref check" with displaying the errors as the default option. Please do drop me a line if you have any problems or suggestions. Tks. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 15:19, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again. After the addition of a toggle option in the tab atop the page, one editor requested a revised version in which the toggle link appears in the "Tools" section of the page's left sidebar. So now there are two versions of this tool. If you prefer the links in the Toolbar section on the side, the slightly altered script is named User:Lingzhi2/reviewsourcecheck-sb.js (just add "-sb" before the ".js"). Finally, both versions should now also store the page state (whether reference errors/warnings are "hidden" or "shown"). The state persists between page loads and between the browser closing and reopening (unless cleared by the user, for example by deleting data in your browser's cache etc.). Huge thanks to User:Evad37 for much coding help. If you have any questions or problems, please drop me a line. Thanks again. ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 08:20, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Homeric Minimum
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To expand
Arago hotspot. JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) 10:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Horizon Guyot with [3], Lamont seamount chain and Researcher Ridge. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- 10.2973/odp.proc.ir.199.111.2002 isn't working. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:23, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Payún Matrú
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18:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Lava balloon
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040195111002460 JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) 22:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK for African humid period
On 22 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article African humid period, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that changes in Earth's orbit around the Sun over 10,000 years ago led to the disappearance of the Sahara desert? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/African humid period. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, African humid period), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Note to self
Check https://ovs.igp.gob.pe/volcan-coropuna. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:31, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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- The deletion review unsalted the title, and I accepted a new draft.
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Allison Guyot scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Allison Guyot article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 12, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 12, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.
We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Jimfbleak: Um, why is the blurb using an image of a different guyot in a different ocean? Otherwise it seems OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- We are keen to have an image for every TFA if humanly possible. Normally for this sort of article I'd use the map if all else fails, as I did for your last guyot TFA I ran, but this has a push-pin type, so all we would get is the Pacific. If you can find or make anything more suitable, please feel free to replace, the image is only there because I couldn't locate anything else Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Sometimes I wonder what the standard of copyright protection for no-frill bathymetric maps like the one here is. [10] and [11] suggest that it might be too uncreative to be copyrightable but that needs some input from copyright experts at Commons. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- We are keen to have an image for every TFA if humanly possible. Normally for this sort of article I'd use the map if all else fails, as I did for your last guyot TFA I ran, but this has a push-pin type, so all we would get is the Pacific. If you can find or make anything more suitable, please feel free to replace, the image is only there because I couldn't locate anything else Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- As a general rule, contour maps (whether terrestrial or bathymetric) have had copyrights. It has take a fair amount of work and creative talent to take a grid of height/depth points and turn them into a usable map that more or less accurately reflects the contours of the land or the sea. I say "has taken" and "have had" because we have come into an era where it is possible to produce such maps from the points without human intervention. Thus it is possible that one could have two similar countour maps, one with a copyright and one without.
- BTW, I have a fair amount of experience here and have never before seen {{bcc}}. Being notified that someone has named me without finding it took me several minutes to figure out. Perhaps it is more common on WP:EN, but I think it should be avoided, at least when communicating with people who might not have seen it. . Jim . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Maps were one of the first types of works to be granted copyrights in U.S. law. The case you cite (Darden v Peters) was a case where someone started with U.S. Census outline maps (i.e. PD-USGov), then added a color and state name labels. If Darden had created the outlines himself in some way, it probably would have been easily copyrightable. It was just the minimal additions which were not enough for their own copyright. It's possible that some basic outline maps are ubiquitous enough today to not have a copyright, but I wouldn't count on it. Carl Lindberg (talk) 05:24, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- An alternative would be to take the existing commons blank map and add a location dot so that it looks like the pushpin version. Or half the hotspot diagram (whole thing is too vertical for blurb)? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Clindberg and Jameslwoodward: Thanks for the input. I didn't find out about {{bbc}} until recently, either. @Jimfbleak: The only one bathymetric map that comes to mind are these light blue ones here but it ain't clear which of these several basemaps in there might fall under PD-USGov if any. I dunno, does the CCBY4.0 license of this map set apply to the actual maps? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Isn't the NOAA stuff PD unless otherwise stated? I've used NOAA software to generate weather maps, which appears to be OK for copyright. Not sure about the other one, Google seems to be claiming copyright. The image doesn't have to be a map, but that would be simplest option Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Clindberg and Jameslwoodward: Thanks for the input. I didn't find out about {{bbc}} until recently, either. @Jimfbleak: The only one bathymetric map that comes to mind are these light blue ones here but it ain't clear which of these several basemaps in there might fall under PD-USGov if any. I dunno, does the CCBY4.0 license of this map set apply to the actual maps? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- An alternative would be to take the existing commons blank map and add a location dot so that it looks like the pushpin version. Or half the hotspot diagram (whole thing is too vertical for blurb)? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
As a general rule, works created by NOAA itself are PD. I would think that https://maps.ngdc.noaa.gov/viewers/bathymetry would be OK. On the other hand, http://www.marine-geo.org/tools/new_search/search_map.php is not OK -- there is an explicit statement of a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike at http://www.marine-geo.org/about/terms_of_use.php which applies to the whole site. Neither Commons nor WP:EN accepts an NC license. . Jim . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Jameslwoodward:Buh. It seems like I did not notice the "noncommercial" bit. The problem with the NOAA map is that it has more than one basemap, two of which (Esri and GEBCO__2014) are unquestionably not freely licensed as they appear to be by a third party while the GMRT isn't so clear - there is a website here that offers such a thing and gives a CC-By4.0 license but
The Global Multi-Resolution Topography (GMRT) synthesis is a multi-resolutional compilation of edited multibeam sonar data collected by scientists and institutions worldwide, that is reviewed, processed and gridded by the MGDS Team and merged into a single continuously updated compilation of global elevation data.
makes me wonder whether it's a derivative work. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)- In view of your misgivings about the TFA map, I've made File:Allison Guyot location.png using your ref and a Commons base map, and replaced the image at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 12, 2019, I hope that's OK Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:48, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
