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Improper AFD closure

At the AFD i have argued for "Keep", but your abrupt closure is improper, as you know because there are outstanding votes both ways. I reverted your closure. I also had noticed that you removed notice of the AFD at the article, but you failed to record the AFD info at the Talk page of the article. Maybe you were going to do that, still, i wondered, but then you seemed to move on to edit about other topics. --doncram 02:09, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Right, I got your threat at my Talk page. Please see discussion at wp:ANI, you have been informed. --doncram 02:48, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Sofia Airport changes

Hi, can you explain to me why you're making all these changes to Sofia Airport page? I think that there are pages with far less references such as Belgrade Airport where even referenced information is being removed by the admins, because they just don't like it... I believe that the aim of wikipedia is to provide the biggest amount of information and thus I don't see the point of removing over-linked information...

anyone can edit Wikipedia, and all my edits are in line with policy. Wikipedia is not about biggest information. We do not include travel guide, tourist information as per WP:NOTTRAVEL, WP:NOTGUIDE. LibStar (talk) 10:57, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

I note that this stub was deleted after discussion at AfD, I'm a little surprised I wasn't notified that it was being listed for discussion. Flat Out (talk) 02:49, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

New Pages Reviewer

Hi,
After your edits, I skimmed a little through your history. You definitely are an experienced user, and you communicate politely. Would you please consider becoming Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time, currently wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the right, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). —usernamekiran(talk) 07:54, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

yes happy to. LibStar (talk) 08:10, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

second time in ten years

I have accidentally gone on your user page - and I do apologise for that. JarrahTree 02:08, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

As an identified Australian editor

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017 - you may be aware of, and may or not be interested

I am interested in what you may think of the strategy process - either on or off wiki response would be of interest to me!

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Supcmd

Hi, I might be wrong in this, but there have been other editors who've generated lots of articles on trivial elements of Australian foreign relations, which from memory ended with the account/s being blocked. Can you remember their user name/s or some example articles? I'm a bit worried that this may be them returning. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:27, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

doesn't immediately ring a bell. But this spree of creating treaties articles is worrying. LibStar (talk) 12:39, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Change and provide good new in trouble

I am trying to fix and change something new, and this is just some of these. I am trying to gain my knowledge about it but so far I am getting problems of collecting sources because so many people and also due to political situation. If you want my honest, here! ZaDoraemonzu7 08:26, 26 August 2017 (UTC+7)

You need to stop asking people's such question about clarifying a source when you don't know how hard they are. I'm sick of these people who demand for so many problem thing, and then when I clarify a profile then they block it and say this is "unreal". What is unreal? Because it doesn't serve you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZaDoraemonzu7 (talkcontribs) 06:23, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Retaining the contribution history of merged articles

Hi, thank you for your sensible merge at Australia–Estonia relations, and for stating the source in your edit history there, in accordance with Wikipedia's licensing requirements. However, as I understand it, the old page should be redirected, not deleted as you proposed ([1]). See WP:FMERGE. – Fayenatic London 20:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Owner and Trademark under Memocorp

Hi LibStar

This copyrights is under Strathfieldplaza.com.au, which is own and operated by Memocorp Pty Ltd.

Hi LibStar

Well if you don't like it remove the article, our trademark name and other contents and I will write up new one.

Hi LibStar. I've handed Memocorp a 12 hour block to allow them time to read over the policies they need to refresh upon, such as WP:OWN and WP:COI among others. It'll at least slow them down a notch and perhaps they'll use the timeout to realise we're building an encyclopedia, not a web hosting business for advertising. -- Longhair\talk 05:29, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thanks LibStar (talk) 05:31, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Parabanks Shopping Centre

Hi there! You recently expressed views on the AFD for Parabanks Shopping Centre that was closed with no consensus. I have renominated that article for deletion as someone who was not involved with the original AFD, and would like to invite you to express/re-express any views you may have. You can find the new AFD here   «l|Promethean|l»  (talk) 11:51, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

R.e Controvesy

I am adding some references. It was a VERY blatant controversy. Maybe know what youre talking about before reverting? Just a thought (also, i dont know wiki-formatting for referencing) Timeoin (talk) 07:42, 25 November 2017 (UTC) Timeoin (talk) 07:42, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Controversy

Not just me: [2] Timeoin (talk) 07:36, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

yep a twitter comment is a reliable source. LibStar (talk) 07:45, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

"Tongan Fan"

Please watch it. Decide for yourself. Timeoin (talk) 07:34, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

I watched it. referee used his discretion. sounds like Tongan fans are just overreacting. LibStar (talk) 07:46, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Well then you seem to be at odds with everyone on the planet. Noone else is reporting it as that. Timeoin (talk) 07:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC) Timeoin (talk) 07:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

"everyone on the planet" pull the other one. you definitely are a Tongan fan. LibStar (talk) 07:51, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

(SOURCE: [3]) (Source: Fox Sports) [4])

(Source: Daily Telegraph) [5]

(Source: TvNz: [6]) (Source: [7]) ([8]) ([9]) Im a football fan. Im yet to find a source that ISNT calling it controversial. Timeoin (talk) 07:56, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

not everyone on the planet. other media are just reporting it as a win. You're obviously upset at the result as a Tongan fan. LibStar (talk) 07:58, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Well, every website i visited ×claimed it was controversial. I have listed a dozen separate websites claiming controversy. Whilst there are likely others that claim it wasnt, (notably british-based websites), a number of places arw crying foul at the decision not to check via video ref. Video reply show a clear strip attempt, regathered, and try to fifita. (Or at the very least, the decision to not even check, when a grand final decision is dependent on it) is certainly questionable. Timeoin (talk) 08:08, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
are you a Tongan fan? LibStar (talk) 10:36, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Libstar.
Re. WP:Articles_for_deletion/Karen_Ristevski you may be interested to know that her hubby 'Borce' has today been charged with her murder.
See also one of my related updates here. Regards, 220 of Borg 01:14, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks. I asked for a check on my findings, glad to see I was right. Sorry it took so long. The sock edits can be reverted. Doug Weller talk 06:25, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

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Just saw a name on my watchlist that I haven't seen in a while and figured I'd drop off a beer. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:53, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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Non-notable embassies

I see you've taken a couple of embassies to AfD recently: you might be interested in the stubs I've just sorted for a batch of Turkish Embassies: see Category:Foreign relations stubs. I think they should probably almost all just redirect to the relevant bilateral relations page, except perhaps Quito and Santiago. PamD 17:28, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. LibStar (talk) 02:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

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Relaciones bilaterales

You are trying delete normal, well referenciated and extent articles created by me, systematicaly. You are the one atacking other users. You nominated for deletion articles with a 100% consensus of keeping. I cant understand you, meanwile I can see such a small other articles in this wikipedia. I will not argue with you anymore. Do whatever you one. I am here mainly for construction, not for destruction of other's work. This enciclopedy is a constant growning and impoving project, that needs created articles for others can do that improve; so, up to you. Whatever.--Fobos92 (talk) 05:39, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Progress?

Hi LibStar,

Just wanted to thank you for your contributions over the years on bilateral relations articles, getting your hands dirty both at AfD and within the articles in question. Have you measured your progress so far? How much remains to be reviewed for deletion? Is there any way I can help? Pilaz (talk) 15:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. There are always bilateral articles of questionnable notability. But I don't have a list or measure "progress". LibStar (talk) 05:04, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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Maya Dobreva

Thankyou for nominating the article on Maya Dobreva. We have an awful lot of articles on ambassadors who do not at first glance look to meet notability or inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:29, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

RFC regarding the title format for articles covering bilateral relations

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Given your topical interest over the years on bilateral relations, perhaps you'll be interested in this RfC about the titles of bilateral relations articles. Cheers.

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (country-specific topics) has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Pilaz (talk) 16:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

David Cooper (equestrian)

Thankyou for nominating the article David Cooper (equestrian) for deletion. It is good to see people actually implementing the RfC on Olympic notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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Deletion review

My friend, this is not about opening a deletion review but more simply restoring a page that has been deleted "by mistake" without any community consent (one keep strongly vote and one redirect vote). Among other things, the page to which you are redirected does not contain the amount of information that the original page had. --Kasper2006 (talk) 05:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Lib you were hasty However you say an inaccuracy, I respect and agree with the community's decisions, I only reverted because in this case it was a "mere error". It can happen no? We are all human. One vote against the cancellation and one for the redirect (without the amount of information being transferred to the page to which it redirects), don't you think it's a simple mistake? --Kasper2006 (talk) 09:25, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Pakistan Embassy International School and College Tehran

I removed the PROD to give Pakistani and Iranian editors more time to find sources for Pakistan Embassy International School and College Tehran. I may need to post some messages on the Urdu Wikipedia. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:46, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

See WP:CIRCULAR. Wikipedia should not be used as a source on Wikipedia articles. Steelkamp (talk) 03:51, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, LibStar,

I just closed this AFD discussion and the way it was formatted, I needed to handle the closure of the AFD for each article you included manually which takes up a bit of time. Since you do a lot of AFD nominations, I'd like to ask you to review the information at WP:AFD on how to format bundled nominations. It's much easier for the closer when a quick select of XFDCloser handles all of the article pages that were nominated simultaneously.

Thank you for your work and all of your contributions on the project. Liz Read! Talk! 03:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Ambassadors

Hi, it seems that there is some discussion about whether ambassadors should have coverage in Wikipedia or not. I have found that people have made quite extensive lists with many of the US ambassadors covered even in cases like List of ambassadors of the United States to Portugal but this clearly doesnt scale since there are 200 countries many of which send ambassadors to Portugal so I dont see how all of List of ambassadors of Peru to Portugal could ever be relevant. Even many among the US ones seems sketchy:

it just seems like a long list of people who fail WP:NBIO and only have an entry because they were ambassadors for a few years but are not relevant themselves. It seems to apply consistent criteria would be to either have all ambassadors past and present be relevant (which would be on the order of 200x200xN over the last N ambassadors which would be around 40'000 x N or 400'000 people over the last 10 ambassadors) or stick to the current system that only people who would be relevant otherwise pass the relevance bar. Or maybe I am missing something here? hroest 19:50, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Ambassadors are clearly not inherently notable. There are so many ambassador stubs that were created with a few primary sources then the editor never touches them again. LibStar (talk) 22:45, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

South-Eastern Suburbs of Sydney

Hi LibStar

I'm reaching out because I keep trying to improve accuracy and distinctions amongst regions of Sydney. One of them being South-Eastern Sydney in contrast to the Eastern Suburbs. Whenever I attempt to alter the suburb pages of South-Eastern Sydney to refer to them as being south-east and link them to the corresponding article I'm perpetually being bullied and my alterations with the corresponding links are being deleted inexplicably due to a Wikipedia editor's stubborn opinion. The editor in question is 'Daceyvillain'. Is there a way I can take this higher to stop this editor from removing the link to the correct articles or are you able to mediate this? 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:8134:FC2D:1810:74D1 (talk) 07:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Your edit history shows you have only edited today. Have you edited under a different profile? LibStar (talk) 07:54, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Yes correct, the changes made earlier today were just a different IP. Whenever I've tried to change the individual articles of suburbs within the City of Randwick and part of Bayside Council to being part of South-Eastern Sydney, Daceyvillain keeps removing the link and writing Eastern Suburbs instead because they believe that it is how it should be. South-Eastern Sydney is a region of Sydney as it has its own page and is used amongst Sydneyside e.g the south-east light rail. An editor shouldn't be abusing their power like this when I'm trying to link correct articles and provide accuracy. I've been debating with Daceyvillain on their talk page and I believe if you read through it I've made much more compelling statements to backup my argument while Daceyvillain refuses to agree and dismisses what I'm trying to say just because they choose not to believe it is so. I don't mean to drag you into this but if you're unable to assist is there a way this can be taken higher? 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:8134:FC2D:1810:74D1 (talk) 08:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Mystery IP address person - your replies here are misleading and manipulative. We tried to have a discussion about this earlier (on the noticeboard) which you ignored. Instead you kept reverting pages to impose your own opinion on Wikipedia. I have provided links to numerous maps which you continue to ignore. The Eastern Suburbs is a well defined area which is typically not broken up into sub-regions on maps of Sydney. Wikipedia should reflect reality instead of reflecting your opinion. Thank you. Daceyvillain (talk) 09:10, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Here are some more government maps which show the Eastern Suburbs extending to La Perouse instead of terminating at some imaginary horizontal line you are picturing near Bronte/Clovelly

https://www.mysydney.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-05/South%20East%20map.pdf

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/f402dd663f9a63efca256ad4007f6817/$FILE/Map%204%20from%20NSW_ASGC.pdf

https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data/quickstats/2016/118 Daceyvillain (talk) 09:19, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

This 'imaginary' line you're referring to is in plain site in the separation of the LGAs, federal electorates and there are also different series of postcodes for the Eastern Suburbs and the South-Eastern Suburbs. We can both easily find sources to back up our statements. I found a bunch.
https://cambridgehotel.com.au/feed/blog/10-must-visit-places-in-south-east-sydney
https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/projects/current-projects/cbd-and-south-east-light-rail
https://profile.id.com.au/randwick/about
https://economy.id.com.au/randwick/infrastructure
https://dictionaryofsydney.org/place/randwick_local_government_area
https://www.secc.sydney/
I don't understand why the concept of the south-eastern suburbs in contrast to the eastern suburbs which are directly east of the CBD is such a difficult thing for you to accept, It's definitely not a new concept. Many south-eastern suburbs in the City of Randwick and Bayside Council are newer than the eastern suburbs in Waverley and Woollahra council.
The one being manipulative here is you because according to YOU apparently the boundaries of the eastern suburbs have 'always' included Watsons Bay all the way down to La Perouse and that the south-eastern suburbs basically does not exist because YOU choose to believe it isn't so. It would be like saying Liverpool and Casula are not south-west and are simply part of Western Sydney along with Parramatta because apparently someone said they don't believe in south-western sydney therefore making it so.
As already mentioned the south and south-east are different socioeconomically, demographically, culturally and are quite literally in separate directions from the CBD, New South Head Rd takes you to the eastern suburbs, Anzac Pde Takes you to the south-east. Bondi is directly east of the CBD, La Perouse is far south/south-east of the CBD.
The light rail is called the CBD and south-east light rail, not the CBD and eastern suburbs light rail. The telegraph is called the Southern Courier not the Eastern Courier.
I'm simply repeating my valid argument however you will continue to ignore me and believe suburbs like Botany, Hillsdale and La Perouse are part of the eastern suburbs when they're geographically south of the CBD, most people would also not think of them when referring to the eastern suburbs and they're almost completely different in every way to suburbs like Vaucluse, Woollahra and Edgecliff.
Editors like you should not be allowed to abuse their power editing factual information and links on Wikipedia just based off of your own personal opinions and beliefs, ignoring clear facts which have been presented in black and white. It's editors like you who are the reason less and less people take information on Wikipedia seriously and if no one from Wikipedia mediates what you're doing and hold you accountable you continue to get away with pushing your own and agenda providing readers with inaccurate and/or misleading information. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:8134:FC2D:1810:74D1 (talk) 13:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I’ve provided sources of official government maps which clearly show the Eastern Suburbs extending all the way to La Perouse. You may disagree with those maps but that is just your personal opinion. Wikipedia should reflect reality and not your personal opinion. Daceyvillain (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
At this point I consider you a troll. You are wasting vast amount of other people‘s time and manipulating events to portray yourself as some sort of hero. Please respect the truth and respect other people‘s time. Wikipedia is not a tool for your personal opinion. If you want to write a blog about your opinion of how the Eastern Suburbs should be defined, then go right ahead. But don’t use Wikipedia for that. Daceyvillain (talk) 16:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Please stop using my talk page to debate the topic. I will say the anon IP has not put up compelling arguments The sources for "south east Sydney" such as https://cambridgehotel.com.au/feed/blog/10-must-visit-places-in-south-east-sydney are not reliable. Please continue at Talk:Eastern Suburbs (Sydney). LibStar (talk) 22:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, LibStar,

Just a reminder, please post a notification on the talk page of an article creator when you tag an article for any form of deletion. If you use Twinkle and set up your Preferences to "Notify page creator", then Twinkle will post these notices for you when you use it to tag a page for deletion. I highly recommend that you use it. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 22:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
for regularly sending non notable articles about ambassadors to deletion discussion. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 06:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Actually, I have a comment about these AFDs. LibStar, I'd like to suggest that you lay off ambassadors for a while and move on to cleaning up another area of the project. Your AFDs are seeing less and less participation and I think AFD regulars are getting tired of weighing in on deletion discussions on this subject. They are burned out on considering the notability of different ambassadors. I suggest you move on to non-notable children's shows which could use a thorough going through, there is a lot of dated junk in this area. Or really there are many, many subject areas that could use your attention. You can always return to ambassadors in a few weeks and finish up. Thanks for all of your contributions. Liz Read! Talk! 02:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

ANI notice

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Marrickville: Notable people - John Farrow

Hi LibStar

Did you have an issue with my addition because Farrow's Wikipedia article makes no mention of Marrickville? There's plenty of external references to his origins:

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/movies/the-forgotten-life-of-australia-s-most-prolific-hollywood-director-and-the-tall-stories-he-told-20210719-p58b21.html

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/nov/09/john-farrow-the-star-australian-director-who-hollywood-forgot

and so on - just google: "john farrow" "marrickville"

I've done a bit of digging but so far have been unable to lock down the actual address where he grew up. Though Juliett St close to Enmore seems most likely - will keep trying. There's enough good external articles to justify adding a reference to Marrickville in John Farrow's Wikipedia article. He's a fascinating character. 1.43.41.96 (talk) 03:33, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Please feel free to add the references into the John Farrow article. LibStar (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

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Daceyvillain needs to be banned

Daceyvillain has gone and removed accurate and well cited information from the Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) page namely the sub-regions category according to the Australia bureau of statistics purely because he doesn't like it. Can something be done about this please. He lacks the maturity to be a Wikipedia editor as he has no respect for facts and only cares about his own opinion. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 02:26, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

please raise it WP:ANI. secondly, you should create an WP:ACCOUNT, you're obviously using different IPs as 1 person. LibStar (talk) 02:29, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. I will raise it.
I'm not those other IPs but I like that there are other Sydneysiders in the community who are agreeing with the distinctions I've been trying to tell you all along. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 03:34, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
If someone wanted to pretend that other people agreed with their opinion, then they might edit a wiki page using multipe IPs and continually refuse to create an account, without giving any reason for refusing to do so. Daceyvillain (talk) 04:14, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Words and phrasing for the IP who edited governance is clearly different as was the hate speech. Once again stop pushing your own opinion and being paranoid. Would love some input from residences in the Eastern Suburbs in Waverley and Woollahra Council to bring you down to size Daceyvillain. You have a really bad obsessive superiority complex about where you live. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 04:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
You have no idea where I live, and just like refusing to accept government documents and maps that disagree with your opinion, you refuse to accept it when I tell you that I don't live in Daceyville (not that there is anything wrong with living in Daceyville - it is a very beautiful and historic suburb which predates a very large part of the Eastern Suburbs). Daceyvillain (talk) 04:59, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi LibStar, I'm an experienced editor who no longer wishes to edit using an account. I don't know who either 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC or Daceyvillain are, and I am not either of them. My interest is only to improve the accuracy of articles and I don't wish to get further involved in this edit-war, but I know you are interested in these Sydney geography articles. I know you would have seen plenty of oddball editors trying to push their real life insecurities onto Wikipedia and this is one of those instances. Please do what's best for the project. --49.255.185.235 (talk) 06:04, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm guessing you are here because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:49.255.185.235. But I'm not sure if you are just another personality of 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC. Please create an account. Daceyvillain (talk) 06:06, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
This IP address is not the same as mine as we cannot be in the same place at the same time. He is right however, we should be doing what's right and factual for the article, not based off people's opinions and omissions. Every edit I've made to the page has added to its information, I mostly certainly have not edited the Eastern Suburbs page based off how I want the Eastern Suburbs to be or how I think it should be. I have edited it based off how it is. 2405:6E00:289:B4FC:64B2:E702:CFE6:10EC (talk) 06:14, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
You could easily avoid confusion and doubt by creating an account. But your refusal to do so creates uncertainty. LibStar (talk) 06:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
I have provided dozens of government references which you have ignored.
But you have only provided a single government reference, which actually agreed with what my references had been saying (i.e. your own reference was explicit that the Eastern Suburbs continued southwards past Bondi Junction and did not end there) Daceyvillain (talk) 06:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Eastern Suburbs

Thank you for trying to resolve the disputes. I am sorry for this distraction.

I am going to take a break from Wikipedia for a while. For the record, I am not completely opposed to having unofficial sub-regions on the Eastern Suburbs page, even though the Eastern Suburbs is typically not subdivided in maps. But my main concern is that, the existence of the unofficial sub-regions on the page was making it easier for classist and misleading edits to be made to that page and to other pages. Daceyvillain (talk) 06:45, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

AfD

Hello! Can you possibly slow down with the Portland hotel article deletions, please? It is hard to work on improving so many entries at once. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Again, can you please slow down with the AfD nominations, now for restaurants? I cannot possibly be expected to defend all of these at once. I would ask you to please share your concerns in the form of talk page discussions and/or tags, so editors can have more time to expand entries. Thanks, ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:31, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
You only asked me to slow down on hotels. Secondly, I marked most restaurants for notability when I could have easily nominated 10 or 20 for deletion. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for withdrawing AC Hotel Portland Downtown. Might you re-assess DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Portland and Hotel Rose, too? ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

I saw the notability tag that you added, and added a quick comment at Talk: Gruet Winery. This is actually a pretty famous winery with a national reputation. I'll try improving the article in a few weeks.

As an unrelated aside, I am very sympathetic to your concern about the notability of the myriad Portland OR restaurant articles. Some have better claims to notability than others on general principles, but there are serious issues with sources and refbombs on all of them. Banks Irk (talk) 19:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. LibStar (talk) 04:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

About your recent GARs

Hello. I see you nominated a lot of GARs. That's great to see! But, the problem here is that you're nominating too much of the same type of article at once. I've learnt the hard way (here) so it's good to keep that in mind. Also, it feels like most of your GAR noms kind of feel copy and pasted, especially when one article seemed to have some detail beyond 2012. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:17, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

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Not sure what went wrong with your !Vote, but your name wasn't showing. Feel free to edit/remove unsigned if you'd like. Star Mississippi 02:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. LibStar (talk) 03:25, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Tag Bombing on the Trieste Page

Hello. I am currently what one might define the "curator" of Trieste's page. While I try to do my very best to salvage that page, long neglected and vandalised, your incessant tag bombing is helpful to a limited extent. While it does help me locate passages that need substantiation, please refrain from being only minorly helpful by only adding the "CN" tag. Try please, if you have the time, to help me in that most tedious of works, namely finding citations for something you did not write. Wikipedia:Tag bombing. I will not put in question your good faith, but, Trieste being a topic of contention, doubts might emerge.


Cordially ~~~ Nīk-1895 (talk) 15:05, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

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RFC on International relations project page

I started an RFC I think you are interested in but my pinging failed at least it did on my end. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

PRODs

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twisting the knife

Please try to be kind at AfD. I have no doubt that AB is creating articles in good faith, they just have a different interpretation than yours and mine. It's fine to respond once to deny you're targeting or harassing, but back-and-forths do no one any good and, as has just happened, can tend to turn off other well-intentioned editors. It's counterproductive. Valereee (talk) 16:26, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I resent being accused of targeting when I also nominate restaurants from Australia. Plus you can see I regularly nominate articles for deletion from a wide variety of topics. LibStar (talk) 00:23, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Oh, I know you aren't targeting them/their work. I'm not either, and I've been accused of it in multiple venues by more than one editor. I just feel like the person who is in the most pain (which in this case is the one whose creations are being nominated) should be treated with as much tolerance as possible when they lash out. Valereee (talk) 15:53, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
There's also a strong element of WP:OWN. The article creator is irrelevant, what is relevant is if an article meets a notability guideline. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't actually get OWN from this. What I get is "I've done a lot of good work and for some reason I don't understand, people are targeting me." Valereee (talk) 10:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
I quote from WP:OWN, "Some contributors feel possessive about material they have contributed to Wikipedia." LibStar (talk) 10:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I'm not getting -- any more of that than with the typical creator of an article. Every creator feels a bit of that at AfD, and I'm not getting more of that than normal. Valereee (talk) 11:09, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
I want to weigh in here, LibStar. I see quite a lot of articles you've sent to deletion discussions or PROD'd. So I know that your sole focus is not getting rid of Another Believer's articles. But they feel targeted when AFD after AFD comes up with you nominating their articles for deletion. I also don't see OWN behavior here as AB gets along with other editors who question their sources or who want to help improve these articles. This is about the two of you on opposing sides and from their point of view, you are seeking deletion of their hard work. That might not be a fair and accurate point of view of the situation but I hope you can understand how that this is how it looks to them.
I'm not going to tell you stop nominating articles but to try to empathize that, in an AFD forum, you are pursuing deletion of their work and how that can seem threatening. You sure aren't helping them to improve these articles! Please try to be civil and not take things personally and realize that your way of contributing to the project runs smack into their way of contributing to the project and conflict is inevitable without there being a "good guy" and a "bad guy". If you could train your deletion-focused gaze on other areas of the main space for a few weeks or a few months, I think this dispute may cool down which is all that I'm looking for. I want both of you around for a long time, no retirements, no sanctions, contributing to the project in your own fashion. Thank you for considering my proposal. Liz Read! Talk! 02:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
@Liz , you've closed many of the AfDs/Prods I've sent to deletion, as you know I nominate a wide variety of articles from schools to diplomats to restaurants. I don't solely target restaurants in the US North West but also elsewhere in the US and in Australia. And I definitely do not nominate articles for deletion based on its creator, to taunt me as "targeting me" is an unfounded accusation. LibStar (talk) 04:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
It also seems that some people are extremely protective of articles they've created, this is why I say WP:OWN. I've never encountered at this level in my 16 years on Wikipedia. If my nominations were faulty they would have sailed through as snow keep but they don't. LibStar (talk) 04:52, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
@Liz, I don't think that's really a fair proposal. To me that feels like "Because editor X is complaining, stop doing the completely okay thing they're complaining about." The other editor is making unsupported accusations of malicious targeting. I'm willing to give them a lot of slack because I believe they believe what they're saying, but I'm not willing to then also expect LibStar to behave as if they were indeed targeting when they're not. I've been accused, and not just by that other editor, of the same thing, by multiple editors and in multiple venues, and it is extremely frustrating to be making good-faith arguments and be accused of personal malice against an editor or a subject area. Valereee (talk) 11:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks @Valereee. Appreciate your comments. LibStar (talk) 11:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Cape Breton International Drum Festival for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cape Breton International Drum Festival is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cape Breton International Drum Festival (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Snow

Thank you Lib! That should have been snow delete. My bad. Plus I cannot close as delete. Someone else will, when they feel the need. I appreciate your revert! Off to bed ;-) gidonb (talk) 03:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey, LibStar, you added the AfD template, but you didn't create the associated AfD page. Did you nominate it on accident? (It's a LUGSTUB, so probably not.) SWinxy (talk) 03:07, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for picking this up. I have now completed the nomination. LibStar (talk) 03:23, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, why don't you use Twinkle to nominate things for XfD? With the amount of articles of enwiki, we'll never delete the entire encyclopedia manually! SWinxy (talk) 04:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
You're the first person to mention that to me in all my years on WP. I will look into it. Thanks. LibStar (talk) 04:12, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Twinkle is one of those things that is so ubiquitous and amazing that people don't feel the need to bring it up. I have lots of praise for it as a gadget. SWinxy (talk) 04:22, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
I'm sure that I've encouraged you to use Twinkle for all of your page deletion taggings, PROD, CSD and AFD. It ensures that the page creator is notified once you set your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator". It remembers all of those template codes for you and cross-posts your deletion nomination. Liz Read! Talk! 01:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, LibStar,

If you want to delete an empty category you created, and you are the only contributor to the page, just tag it CSD C1 or CSD G7 (or both) rather than sending it to CFD. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Possible resolution on PROD for Electrofringe

Hi. While patrolling PROD articles, I noticed you have proposed Electrofringe for deletion. You cite a lack of live or reliable references. Using the Internet Archive I have managed to revive a large number of the sources, but I have not conducted my own check of the article subject's notibility. Perhaps this is enough for you to withdraw your proposition? Best, -- Lenny Marks (talk) 20:15, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd like to see more sources than just ABC Radio National. LibStar (talk) 23:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Ringwood Secondary College protection

Hello. I was not the initial admin who placed the protection. That person would be YellowMonkey. I simply restored the protection status to the initial state after the pending change trial finished in 2010. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:39, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Xiaomanyc 小马在纽约 translation needs correction

Hello LibStar. Please re-examine the line '(Chinese: 小马在纽约, transl. "Little Pony")' at article Xiaomanyc. The Mandarin character text, Pinyin transcription and English literal translation are: 小马在纽约, xiǎo mǎ zài niǔ yuē, Little Horse in New York. The phrase can be translated as "Pony in New York" or "Colt in New York" or perhaps as "Little Horse in New York". The characters 小马 taken separately alone mean little horse. A little horse is a pony or a colt. This can be verified via translate.google.com. The translation as "Little Pony" is redundant and not valid. 2603:8080:1500:3DCD:F823:BC7:B72B:C8BB (talk) 02:47, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

PROD

Hi! Regarding Kensington Community HS, how much WP:BEFORE did you do? I found at least one secondary RS from a brief web search and there are probably more.
In general, PROD usually isn't a good fit for secondary schools in my opinion/experience. That's not really what it's for. AfD is a much better place. Just my 2¢. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 17:08, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Estonia–Ukraine relations

Hi, thanks for flagging Estonia–Ukraine relations. I completed the page move, please let me know if anything further required on this. -Frazzydee| 04:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks very much! LibStar (talk) 04:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hey, I've noticed that this page was previously named "Culture of Urfa" and you've moved it to the current, pointing out that "in" is more common in articles about the culture of other Turkish cities. As far as I can see, that is not the case: Culture of Istanbul and such articles in other parts of the world use "of". Aintabli (talk) 02:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

OK. I was going off [[Category:Culture by city in Turkey]]. LibStar (talk) 02:57, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
I believe the article may use "of", which appears to be the most common in other articles. When it comes to categories, it can stay as "in," and if needed, all relevant categories could be moved to include "of". But Culture of London, for example, is part of Category:Culture in London. Overall, I think the move could be reverted, and we may worry about the categories in the future. Aintabli (talk) 03:08, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
As a note, Culture of Istanbul is the only comparable article about a Turkish city. Currently, categories of cultures of Turkish cities use "in", but as I pointed out it is not unprecedented to have categories with "in" and articles with "of", and categories may be moved in a joint WP:CFD anyways. Aintabli (talk) 03:11, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Thank you so much, it was a surprise and I was really pleased... :-) Thanks again. --LukeWiller (talk) 08:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC).

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Universe-Spain Relations

I just wanted to drop a quick THANK YOU for policing the flood of Country X–Spain Relations articles. They are a plague, and keeping up with them is hard work for which you should be commended. Your wikiwork is appreciated. Yours Sincerely, Last1in (talk) 14:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. They were all created by 1 user who simply lifted material from the Spanish Foreign Ministry website and didn't bother to add any third party coverage, in the end creating some truly non notable bilateral articles. This user decided to abuse me when I attempted to nominate these articles for deletion. LibStar (talk) 14:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

India–Montenegro relations

FYI, you added a {{prod}} template to India–Montenegro relations about a month ago and it was deleted. Subsequent to that, another editor attempted to redirect the now-empty page to a Wikipedia mirror. I'm taking that to be an attempt to contest the prod and have restored the article. If you are inclined to do so, please feel free to nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD. --B (talk) 18:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edits - suburb distances

A number of recent edits have been flagged as incorrect information and have reverted. I have been sequentially updating incorrect data on suburb pages regarding distances between the suburb and the CBD, as a number of these are inaccurate. You requested that if the "the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page". The existing numbers provided did not cite a source, and the updated figures are derived from my own digital map measurements. To discuss this small change on every single article talk page would be unfeasible and unnecessary. I would like to request these edits be reinstated. Thanks. Jralph00 (talk) 23:28, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Erin Classen

Hi LibStar,

You proposed the page Erin Classen for deletion, and when I first looked at it I agreed based on the references as they were. I did a quick search and update the page with two articles where one is a profile of her and another is a profile of her and her brother. If you have a chance could you take a look at the new references, and give me your opinion on notability? If she does not meet notability I think moving the page to a draft may be more appropriate, as she may potentially have results soon and it would save some work that way. KeepItGoingForward (talk) 22:28, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit conflicted the close. Did you find sourcing? The entire page needs WP:TNT, it should be deleted for being promotional. SportingFlyer T·C 01:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't initially the previous AfD which was unanimous keep. But agree with you that article is promotional. Needs a major clean up. LibStar (talk) 01:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
@SportingFlyer , if you feel it needs to be deleted you will need to open a new AfD. LibStar (talk) 02:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
I don't really care, but I removed most of the promotional bits. SportingFlyer T·C 02:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, LibStar,

I believe we made an edit at the same moment and I don't think yours went through. You might make sure that your new AFD discussion is listed. Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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