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Personal question

Just out of curiosity (and of course you don't have to answer this if you don't like to. I don't answer certain question by myself and have my reasons for it and you might have your own): Which part of Switzerland are you from or living in?The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

No offense meant but I'd rather not answer that question at this time. MLauba (Talk) 00:08, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
No offense taken. As I mentioned, I too usually refuse to answer too specific questions. Bestens, The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah, and "curiosity killed the cat". I'm no cat but I won't take chances :) The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Courtesy note

You are receiving this note because of your participation in WT:Revision deletion#Community consultation, which is referred to in Wikipedia:VPR#Proposal to turn on revision deletion immediately (despite some lingering concerns). –xenotalk 14:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi MLauba
I have begun to recreate the article "Hindu and Buddhist Heritage of Pakistan" which was deleted by you , with better substantiated content .Its current location [here] seems to be in the wrong place ...can you please help with putting the new article in the original place .
Thanks<br. Intothefire (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I'd just like to say...

...I'm glad you're back. WP:CP is feeling less lonely already. VernoWhitney (talk) 12:12, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

A fresh set of eyes requested

I was wondering if you could take a look at Talk:Public domain#Copyright infringement dispute (and if you enjoy drama, the related Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive615#Copyright violations in copyright-related articles) and see if LakeT's latest proposed addition is a close paraphrase or not. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

From a cursory look, looks like too close paraphrasing for comfort but I'll have to take some more time before I weigh in. I thought supporting your BRFA was more important :) MLauba (Talk) 16:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

MoMK

As a contributor at the MoMK article and/or talk page, please take a look at the new draft and the draft's talkpage and voice your opinion. Thanks, The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 20:20, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, MLauba. You have new messages at Ron Ritzman's talk page.
Message added 12:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The Gore Effect AfD

You previously commented on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Marknutley/The Gore Effect. A new version of the article has been created in article space at The Gore Effect and has been nominated for deletion. If you have any views on this, please feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Gore Effect. -- ChrisO (talk) 08:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

One hanging at CP

Hi. :) If you've got time, would you mind taking a look at the last open ticket at Wikipedia:CP#1 June 2010? It's an odd one. We've got OTRS clearance for one site, but it's tagged as a vio of another. It's not a straightforward copy of either. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:31, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Will do a bit later :) MLauba (Talk) 15:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! I kind of boggled over it and moved on. I really have no opinion at this point whether it's a problem or not. I'm going to blame this on an ongoing respiratory infection. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:34, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Respiratory infection? Ouch. Wish you a prompt recovery.
I think it's not really complicated. The bysoweb page is a more recent version of the conductor's bio, the Harward one (which was identified as the source) a slightly older one. The bysoweb webmaster gave us permission in good faith but I don't believe they are in a position to give permission on this specific one (and if you look at the ticket, they are also trying to grant permission for other bios that might suffer from the same issue). I'm not convinced that they are in fact in a position to grant any of these permission except the stuff that strictly pertains to themselves.
Unfortunately I don't have any time left to take any actions here but I hope that my reading of the situation can help you close the matter. Sorry :( MLauba (Talk) 18:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. :) I'm going to wait until later. As I'm growing rather more tired, I'm sticking with simpler issues. This one may not be that complicated, but will require communication with multiple people. I appreciate your help! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you very much for your contribution to my Rfa. I have made a comment about it at User talk:JamesBWatson#Your Request for Adminship which you are, of course, very welcome to read if you wish to. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Moon Girl

Dear ML, 

  I rewrote the passage for Moon Girl. I think you will find it to your liking :)

Alhasagianttongue (talk) 16:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)alhasagianttongue

Hi!

Great to see you. :) As you can see, I've fallen behind at CP. I was planning to catch up yesterday, but instead found myself investigating a brand new CCI. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Still catching up myself, but it looks like you destroyed that backlog in your usual efficient manner. MLauba (Talk) 13:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
I had been lulled into thinking it less severe than it was by Zorglbot's being out. :/ But, yes, I banged away at it yesterday. Verno's on vacation now. There are several new people working SCV, so that backlog is largely under control, though. Hooray for new people. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
And new Swedish admins, for that matter :) MLauba (Talk) 13:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Since you're working here, I'm going to address one of the older consolidated issues. :) I've got a meeting in about an hour and a half, but I can get a start, anyway. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Un coup de main?

Bonjour MLauba; Moonriddengirl suggested you might could be of assistance here. Thanks in advance! Drmies (talk) 16:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The picture on the German Wikipedia was uploaded as "no rights reserved", which appears to be a special case distinct from public domain. As I'm not 100% confident that the uploader's release is valid (there's a remote chance that the original would still be under copyright and thus a picture of the original wouldn't be the uploader's to give away - not saying the contrary either, mind you), I suggest picking the 1903 cover per the precautionary principle. That one is definitely in the public domain. MLauba (Talk) 16:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. My doctoral degree is of little help here--did I get it right? Thanks again! Drmies (talk) 16:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Close. :) It's not PD because the author released it (that we know of), but because of its age. I've corrected the licensing tag. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm...I am not sure I saw that option in the template I followed; I realized there was no "release". Seriously, MRG, I want to do this right! Thanks again for your help, both of you! Drmies (talk) 16:52, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Copyright options are labyrinthine. I've gotten somewhat adept at finding the ones I want, but it's no picnic! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Rewrite review

Hi. Can I ask you to take on Tokai earthquakes? It began as a clear copyvio of [1], and I am uncomfortable with the closeness of the rewrite, which is particularly problematic in structure. I'm not sure if it should be blanked or tagged for {{Close paraphrase}} or what. Given my indecision, I'd like to hand it off if you don't mind. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Will do, if it can wait till Monday? MLauba (Talk) 21:09, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I tagged with Close Paraphrasing. It's awkward, though there are also not that many ways to paraphrase it better. MLauba (Talk) 13:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. :) If Verno's bot is working properly, it will pop up at CP in a week or so and I'll have a go at rewriting if nobody else has done it before then. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of which, this one is making my eyes bleed. It's on today's SCV listing for review. Want to have a stab? MLauba (Talk) 13:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Sure. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Needs a lot of work, but I've removed the last remnants of copied text that I found. Put it through Earwig's scanner and didn't come up with anything. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

LOL!

Just saying. Meanwhile, it seems like our newest CCI is our oldest CCI all bundled into one. The only plus side to this: WP:CSD#G5 is a no-brainer. A lot easier than the CCI process. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Heh. Glad it made you chuckle :) Re the CCI, have you tried Special:Nuke on this one? MLauba (Talk) 14:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
No. I'm waiting to take further action for the official closure of the SPI. He's been editing since about January, though. Do you know how far back Special:Nuke goes? That tool is scary. :O --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
The first thing the tool supposedly does is to list all eligible pages, so you can just enter the contrib's name and see for yourself :) MLauba (Talk) 14:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Should you deal with them en masse, don't forget the other sock uncovered (I just added their contributions to the bottom of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/AlphaGamma1991). VernoWhitney (talk) 14:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I have nuked. . This only goes back for a bit, though, and only articles they've created, so nothing shows up for the other sock. And there's still work to do for AlphaGamma1991, but I'm going to process it as quickly as possible. We should keep an eye out for this guy to return. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Now I'm wondering why nothing showed up for Marduking, as they created Burmali Mosque which I blanked yesterday. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't know. Maybe I didn't enter his name correctly. I'll try again. Meanwhile, I found even more evidence that Alphagamma is Siddiqui in Tharparkar District. I deleted content from that article in January. In February, Alphagamma restored it. Unless we have a rash of Canadian Pakistani editors doing this kind of thing.... --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
No, I entered it correctly. I get "No new pages by Marduking in recent changes." Is that another broken bot to keep track of, or are broken tools a different category? :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Broken tools are separate :) I think Nuke left out quite some stuff, judging by the CCI page, yet at the same time there's also a lot of deleted contribs under AlphaGamma. MLauba (Talk) 15:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Nuke definitely missed some: Khyber Mohalla has only ever been edited by AlphaGamma1991, so I guess it's just not a sure-fire tool. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Alternatively, Twinkle has a batch delete tool you could run off the CCI listing page, but there's probably no fine-grained selection available from there (never tried that one either). MLauba (Talk) 15:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh and randomly, this was a DumbBOT miss, not Zorglbot. Can't you keep track of all of the broken bots around here? VernoWhitney (talk) 14:26, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Nope. :) MLauba (Talk) 14:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Subsection

It's okay. I'm flying through this one. I don't usually zap content aggressively at CCI, but in this case we've got a ban violation going on as well. The real complicating factor here is like with the one I just cleaned: Culture of Karachi. Siddiqui's fingerprints are all over that one, and I haven't gotten deep enough to check everything. The article was created by indeffed Paknur sock User:Misaq Rabab. User:Paknur showed up later. I did some cleanup (but probably only the Paknur side of things; don't know if I'd gotten to Misaq Rabab yet), and User:AlphaGamma1991 came in and restored what I had cleaned and more. I don't want to depopulate Wikipedia of all things Karachi. It's very messy. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Nine Days That Changed the World

That description of the film wasn't the cited company's copyright, it was citizens united's release. What can be done to recover the work in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmac1009 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

  • As the main part of the article was copy / pasted from third party sources without permission, you'll have to rewrite that from scratch using your own words. I can recover the non-creative content for you (the credits, cats, external links), but the copied content cannot be restored unless there is a valid permission to use it. MLauba (Talk) 16:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

William Conrad Gibbons

Hi MLauba! I just wanted to thank you for your help. I'm going to rush off now and figure out what that thing is that I should put on my dad's website and I'll put it there, to make sure the bio is ok for the copyright. Thanks again, I'll figure this out, and would love to do more contributing on Wikipedia for other things. It's a fascinating site, I didn't realize how much goes into it with all the volunteer editing. Thanks again, Gayle Gaylemadeira (talk) 20:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I've cleared the investigation and left some notes and pointers on the article's talk page. MLauba (Talk) 21:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Javad Alizadeh

Dear Mlauba

Could you please recheck the Talk:Javad_Alizadeh
Wittyworld sent an email regarding license or copyright.

Regards, Bluesaeed (talk) 08:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I already did, the talk page addition above was made before I listed the article for review. I note at this present time, the OTRS volunteer has raised additional points with the originator of the e-mail (on July 28) that have not been responded to so far. MLauba (Talk) 12:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you keep an eye?

Hi. :) Given my nasty internet issues (today has been miraculous! knock wood!), can you keep an eye out for a few days at Joe Coulombe? I believe it is an unusably close paraphrase and have explained to the contributor why, but he may be confused, since he seems to believe there is some "30% change rule", beyond which close paraphrasing is no longer an issue. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Kercher again

A couple of SPAs popping up on the page the day after Phanuel's block; one of which, interestingly, was created the day after Zlyniskyja was indeffed. One of them is continuing with Phanuel's attacks on others; I have left a warning, though clearly I shouldn't take action here, even though I've never actually edited the article apart from fixes and copyedits, as I am one of those being accused. Black Kite (t) (c) 09:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi MLauba. I definitely don't object to your reecent block on PhanuelB. I noticed on his talkpage, though, that it is not entirely clear how long the block will last. It looks like the same length as the last one (48 hours) but, in fairness, should you not be explicit about this? --FormerIP (talk) 10:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I realise that this is in the editor's block log and it is longer. All the same, PhanuelB might not know to look in the log. --FormerIP (talk) 10:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
He will see the block length on screen when he logs in. Black Kite (t) (c) 13:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up, I'll keep an eye on it, but will currently wait to see whether the warning is heeded. Also, if I don't react to any specifically inflammatory posting within 24h, feel free to seek assistance at ANI as I have limited online time this week due to external circumstances - I'm in fact here only to check whether any of the reviewing admins needed some input re: my latest block today. MLauba (Talk) 15:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Banglapedia

I'll move to the bottom of the list and work up. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I was just passing by and decided to break up the text, gonna fix dinner and be away after that, sorry. MLauba (Talk) 17:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

CSBot notices

Hi. After conversation with Aymatth2 at my talk page, I've made some changes to the Bot notices: Template:Csb-pageincludes, Template:Csb-notice-pageincludes and Template:Csb-notice-pageincluded. I'd really appreciate feedback on that, since I don't have the option of talking to Coren about it (he hasn't answered my recent e-mail; hope all is well with him!). The conversation is at User_talk:Moonriddengirl#Request for Comment. The changes were implemented to try to help soften the blow of false positives, because all of us who read Coren's talk page know how very irritating they can be to people. The Bot is important, but we don't want it biting any more than necessary. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for my lack of participation, I'm on travels and getting less internet time than anticipated. But I had a look at the new wording, and I like it. I was wondering whether it was worth adding language that prevents the "I never copied from that site" replies, but after thinking it over, I doubt it will add anything further- those cases aren't that frequent and we'll always get a couple of bad faith reactions no matter what.
But in the grand scheme of things, a CSB notice is often the first contact a new user gets with the rest of the community, and having a friendlier bot notice can certainly improve that experience - in particular for users who try to donate their own material. MLauba (Talk) 12:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. :) I think the whole thing may be overhauled soon; there's been more conversation about it at my talk page since. I'm not sure where it's gone lately, because I've been insanely busy myself (mostly on Wiki). Of larger concern, Coren hasn't edited Wikipedia since July 20th and hasn't responded to my last e-mail asking if he's okay of a week or so ago. CorenSearchBot has gone down several times in recent weeks and is down again today. I greatly hope that all is well with Coren. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Hydra Vein

Hi Mlauba - I see you're yet to get back to me on the Hydra Vein copyright issue (talk page Hydra Vein). Are we okay now Spartakus666 (talk) 12:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. MLauba (Talk) 08:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

PhanuelB Challenges Allegations of WP:BLP Violations

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion Here that involves you. PhanuelB (talk) 16:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

edfox0714 asks for help to reinstate page on 5S that was deleted late July

Hi! I am not very experienced with wikipedia, so please help me become a more effective contributor.

I've been busy in the last months, and just found that you deleted a page that addresses much of my research over the last 8 years, I believe because of some copyright concern that I was unaware of late in July. The entry of particular concern is: 5S Framework for Digital Libraries

Can you guide me to understand where the old page is, what you found of concern, and how I can fix it? I'm the originator of this line of research, so hopefully this can be worked out.

Thank you for your time and assistance. Sincerely, Ed Fox (Edward Alan Fox, (redacted), with ID in wikipedia: edfox0714) Edfox0714 (talk) 04:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. The article in question, 5S Framework for Digital Libraries, was deleted after having been flagged for attention for containing material copy / pasted from an external source ([2]). When this happens, there is typically a grace period of 7 days during which problems can be remedied either through a full rewrite using original wording, or by providing permission to use the material.
If you are the author of the material, the page may be restored by providing such permission using the process outlined at this page. In that case please let me know that you have followed the process and if you chose the route of sending a permission e-mail, the ticket number that will be assigned, I'll make sure that it can be processed as swiftly as possible.
Should that not be possible, a full rewrite will be required, and we do not, per policy, restore content that was deleted for copyright concerns. We can however restore a stub with non-creative content, in particular the references you assembled.
That being said, a few additional points of concern:
  1. If the content is largely based on your own research, it may not be suitable for Wikipedia, as we are typically not a publisher of original thought. You will want to familiarize yourself with our policy on the matter. Further, as the author, you may also have a conflict of interest in writing about the topic - this page here presents a few points you should be particularly mindful in writing about a topic where you are personally involved.
  2. Further, the previous article appears to be obscure and unsuitable for the lay person. Please keep in mind that Wikipedia intends to be a generalist encyclopedia, and any article should be understandable without specialized knowledge. It is not immediately apparent to me what 5S exactly is, and I have an IT background. Another editor noticed this before the article was nominated for copyright verification. MLauba (Talk) 08:35, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2010 August 17

Hi. Unless somebody else gets to it, can you close Joe Coulombe, listed on this day? I'll handle the rest of the day, but an admin other than me should ideally resolve that one. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Will do in a couple of hours. MLauba (Talk) 17:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Foundational, requires a rewrite from scratch. Just came back from a slightly too heavy business dinner, I'm in no shape to rewrite. Feel free to push to old issues if you want to close off the day, I'll handle it when I have a clear head. MLauba (Talk) 23:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Wow, some borderline SPA / OWN issues there... MLauba (Talk) 23:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Got a 1-liner stub in temp space, could probably expand but I don't think we actually have enough RS for a BLP under our current guidelines. While I personally think the gentleman is notable, I can't find enough material to WP:V that. I'll revisit this later. MLauba (Talk) 08:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It is precisely the SPA/OWN issues that made me think another admin's involvement would be beneficial. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
P.P.S. But, yeah, OWN is a problem: check out this series of reversions: [3]. He even reverted a request for a better citation than from the German Wikipedia. Not good. (And yikes.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Resolved
 – rewrote clean stubMLauba (Talk) 11:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Noting that when one does take the time to do the tiniest bit of research instead of plagiarizing from one single source, there are actually enough references to be found to pass the WP:GNG for instance and avoid having to resort to "word of mouth". MLauba (Talk) 11:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) I would well imagine the guy would be notable; the chain store he opened surley is. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Kercher redux

You may want to read the latest on Talk:Murder_of_Meredith_Kercher#Guede's_Apartment together with User_talk:Footwarrior; I think we may have another issue here. Black Kite (t) (c) 00:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate that there is cause for a certain concern or even irritation in this case, and while I fully support your argument, I do however believe that in this case, we have a good faith misunderstanding that is being exacerbated by the climate at the MoMK page. I think that everyone should take a deep breath and remember that disagreements and misunderstandings can happen. MLauba (Talk) 08:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Frenchman does not like us?

Hi. Do you remember the conversation with the French user who wanted to stop importing Wikipedia's content because we don't always delete copyvios from history? It was at AN, I think. Can you remember enough details to help me locate it? I'm working up something for the MilHist newsletter, and I want to reference it. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:28, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it was definitely at AN. Let me go do some digging :) That being said I think our combination of seldel / revdel (once we make it a consistent practice) should now meet his expectations. MLauba (Talk) 13:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much! :D Yes, I've been doing your revdel pretty regularly. Nobody ever answered your note at the talk page, so it seems to me we are on our own here. I don't seem to have broken Wikipedia yet. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Milhist thing

Thanks for the input. :) I'll see what I can do to clarify. I'm planning to ask you for more review after I finish anyway. It's probably too long right now, but I'll be better able to cut it down once I get the full bones in place. I was trying to make a flow chart of how to handle copyright problems, but I failed miserably.:/ I came up with the text, but I lack graphic ability. I found a Microsoft Word Template, but it's noncom reuse only. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, there's still my CV101 draft somewhere... MLauba (Talk) 14:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of which, didn't we talk about trying to do something for the Signpost? Are you going to be around steadily enough to consider pursuing that sometime soon? (I know your work sometimes calls you away.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm on travel this week and in two weeks (in fact I'm off right now which is why I haven't touched CP at all), should have some time next week. MLauba (Talk) 14:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Maybe we can spec something out then. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Kercher

I have fully protected the article due to concerns about a concerted off-wiki campaign. I fear the article is in danger of being degraded towards its former unencyclopedic state. See the talk page. Please feel free to unprotect if you believe this was unwarranted. Thanks, Black Kite (t) (c) 23:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Reviewed and endorsed. It's also fascinating to see how within 24 hours several fresh accounts turned from red names to blue names. I wish we could deploy pending changes level 2 here... MLauba (Talk) 10:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I have blocked the Gregmm account as an obvious sock. I have also been informed that the behavioural issues are enough to raise an SPI without it being rejected as fishing - I'll do that when I get the chance. It has also been suggested that the article is protected for longer, as the trial appeal starts next month. Will see how the talkpage goes in the meantime. Black Kite (t) (c) 19:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I suggest we look at a protection during the appeals as a separate matter. While I think full protection could be rescinded for the time being, leaving it in place may have a beneficial effect: that we actually get concrete proposals for article improvement that bring the thing forward rather than endless posturing.
  • That being said, for the sake of fairness, allow me to point out that I believe that parts of your comments in the section I collapsed on the talk page went a bit overboard in terms of personalizing the whole matter. If I may, just like I recommended to PhanuelB to either file his rfarb or shut up about it, I'd prefer if the SPI is either filed or not mentioned on the article's talk page at all - as you've seen, it has led to debates that have nothing to do with improving the article. Again, I'm fully sympathetic with what I perceive as irritation, and no offense meant. MLauba (Talk) 09:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I must admit I'm slightly confused as to that comment, as nothing I said in the collapsed section was anything other than plain fact, and apart from the Gregmm account I mentioned no editor by name. I have also emailed you regarding the SPI. Black Kite (t) (c) 19:21, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

read and replied. MLauba (Talk) 10:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Review a rewrite?

Hi. Have you got time to review User:Alexey-spb/Mehdi Hosseini to see if you feel it is sufficiently rewritten from [4] and [5]? It may be, but at this point I would feel more comfortable with another admin identifying if it is not. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Will do, tomorrow. MLauba (Talk) 17:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


Hmm, the first source is bound to be a reverse vio, the language is typical WP:BIO manual of style. Looking at the second... MLauba (Talk) 08:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
The second source is too closely paraphrased for my taste. Would you like to take it up from here again or want me to? MLauba (Talk) 08:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
With respect to the first source, the connection between them is complicated. The article Mehdi Hosseini was already speedily deleted twice as a copyvio of that specific source, over a year ago, by two different admins. The content when it was last deleted is substantially the same. I can't tell how the external source has evolved, because it isn't archived, but it seems that two different admins agreed that it predated. Bizarre stuff.
If you don't mind taking it up at least so far as explaining the issue, I'd appreciate it. I'll be happy to deal with any lingering confusion.
By the way, I saw the strange stuff at ANI this morning. Go you for fighting the good fight. :) I was tempted to raise my hand to help with watching, but I suspect I would worsen rather than improve things. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

ANI

re "Mrs. Kercher", you may want to consier Ms, Miss or Meredith rather than Mrs. !  pablo 22:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Good point, I keep forgetting that while Ms is pretty much out of style in my native language, it isn't so in others. MLauba (Talk) 22:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

New DNB WikiProject

For information: I have set up Wikipedia:WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography, since the time has certainly come when there should be a place for collective discussion of the DNB adaptation effort. Please come and participate. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Recent Revision delete of Talk:Timothy Munro Roberts

You missed the edit summary which also has his phone number on this deletion.- McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 17:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Well duh! and here it was in plain sight indeed. Thanks. MLauba (Talk) 17:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Nine Days That Changed the World

That description of the film wasn't the cited company's copyright, it was citizens united's release. What can be done to recover the work in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmac1009 (talk • contribs)

  • Addressed elsewhere. MLauba (Talk) 13:12, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you review?

A week ago, I tagged Bill Black as a close paraphrase. Some specific examples are at the talk. Unsurprisingly, although aware, the contributor who created the problem has not chosen to address it. I'd like another view of it; do you think it should be blanked? I was going to go through and simply cut out the problems I had identified, but I want to make sure that seems sufficient to another reviewing admin. :) This is not urgent; I'm going to allow it to go around again for another week. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Blanked (article), listed (at CP), and crossed off (on CCI). MLauba (Talk) 13:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Copyvio-histpurge

Template:Copyvio-histpurge has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. MLauba (Talk) 12:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Please be careful in templating the regulars. :( MLauba would probably have appreciated a personal explanation here! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)(In point of fact, I don't really have a problem with appropriately templating the regulars.)
I think you just homed in on a glaring omission in our list of Essays: we don't have WP:DTY! "Don't Template Yourself" MLauba (Talk) 13:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Tanarus (Video Game)

I mistakenly left you a lengthy reply on Moonriddengirl's talk page accidentally. Rather than look like a spam artist and cause more problems, could you please bounce over there and read it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobMonty1987 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


I've responded there, I've also pointed out on the article's talk page all that is against our content policies with the content I removed. MLauba (Talk) 14:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


I respect your opinion, MLauba, but if I'm not mistaken, there can be a Wikipedia page for a video game, and the amount of information on that page does not matter, correct?

So why have you deleted all of that information from the page? All I did was simply revert it back to its original state (how its been for years, before my edits), and you still saw the need to delete most of the page? After it has been obviously OKed by Wikipedia if it had been that way for so long.

I urge you to go back and read the page you last edited it, and find a single thing that breaks Wikipedia rules. I would like a valid reason for the removal of the content. The idea you preach that "Wikipedia is not a game reference..." is unacceptable, especially since you obviously allow its existence still, and just felt the need to cut all of the information out.

Now here comes the cliche of the century: I would like to speak to your supervisor. I am not here to argue, purely to debate, as you so obviously are already accustomed to. If you could direct me on how to find someone clearly above your 'rank' (or however it is done in Wikipedia), that would be nice. I would not like to hear who you recommend I speak to. To be clear, I merely would like to know how to find someone above you.

I do not agree with your edit at all. I seriously doubt you read any of what you deleted, and if you did, found it breaking any Wikipedia rules. Maybe my initial edit did contain information that was a bit too negative for Wikipedia, but it wasn't in the last edit. To sum it up, it doesn't take a genius to realize that the edit was made out of your spite, and had no grounds to be made. When I do talk to your higher-up, I can tell you I will make no attempt to get you in any trouble. I just would like a 2nd opinion, and a fair chance at putting the page back to how it has been for years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobMonty1987 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


I read what I deleted, I found it breaking Wikipedia content guidelines and policies, I explained why on the article's talk page, I appreciate your failure of assuming good faith (one of our core rules of social interactions) only very moderately.
Wikipedia is a volunteer organization. There is no supervisor. I suggest you seek further input at either the talk page of the Video Game project or at the content noticeboard. And if you continue assuming I did it out of spite, please consider this conversation over. MLauba (Talk) 15:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Question

Do you see really ugly and obvious vandalism in the History section of Georgetown University? It entered here almost six hours ago and was immediately bot reverted, but it's still showing for me. It's not template vandalism; I already checked that. I asked about it at VPT, but I'm guessing the reviewer didn't see it. I wonder if it's a regional lag of some kind. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Empty your browser cache :) Doesn't show up for me. MLauba (Talk) 16:33, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
I have done, like five times. :) I wasn't there before the vandalism was cleaned (I arrived after tagging University of Pittsburgh School of Health and Rehabilitation Sciences ca. 16:00 UTC), so it should never have been in my browser to begin with. It's very strange. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


Could be an issue with the proxy in your network, but if it is, it's going to be a pain in the backside for some of your work. MLauba (Talk) 16:38, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh, good. A new pain in the backside is just what I need! LOL! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:42, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Close paraphrases

Regarding this, that wasn't a miss - VWBot ignores close paraphrases already listed in SCV for the same reason it ignores blanked pages already listed there: it has (because I have) been operating under the assumption that whoever goes through CP for the day will also be checking blankings/close paraphrases/speedies which still exist, etc. from the SCV page. Now that I'm done ranting about how it's doing exactly what it's supposed to, if there's any thing you'd like me to change with what VWBot's doing, please let me know so I can fix it and it can be as helpful as possible. VernoWhitney (talk) 12:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I see. Didn't realize it was working as intended :) As far as I'm concerned, I believe it would be more convenient when close paras issued through an SCV review were listed on the day the review is done to grant the full 7 days for rewrite, but I'm hardly around enough these days to be making requests :) Thanks for clarifying. MLauba (Talk) 12:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Hrmm...I can see that being an issue if SCV is backlogged more than CP, but then the same should be done with blankings too and it's currently not - I guess it's just assumed that approximately a week is sufficient. Of course if close paraphrases are overlooked (or purposefully ignored) in SCV and still tagged when the daily page is removed they will be added to the latest daily CP page just like all of the other new blankings/taggings and whatnot that VWBot's already making sure aren't missed.
Now that you've got me looking into it the only actual reference to a week that I see is WP:CP saying that "Listings typically remain for seven days" (emphasis added), so I don't think I'm going to worry about overhauling the system since editors typically tell us when they're working on a rewrite that will take longer than a week and we just relist them at that point. I guess this is something to keep in mind for the future if it really is a problem, though. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


As I said, I'm currently around so little that it's not worth losing any sleep over my idiosyncratic approach :) MLauba (Talk) 15:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Bon voyage!

It was nice to have you. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Brauche Hilfe

Gruezi MLauba, ich bin Thomas alias Cruks aus Freiburg i.Br., also Nachbar. Ich bin Artikelschreiber in in der deutsch-, englisch-, französisch- und portugiesischen Wikipedia. Ich bin froh jemand deutsch sprechender von den englischen Administratoren kontaktieren zu können. Ich bin noch neu hier und beteilige mich vor allem mit Artikeln aus der portugiesisch sprechenden Welt. Jetzt gehts um den Angola international airport, den ich auf englisch geschrieben habe. Frage: Ist der Artikel gesichtet worden? Wie kann ich das kontrollieren? Ich habe gegoogelt und nichts gefunden, nur der deutschsprachige ist schon online. Der Portugiese ist noch in Bearbeitung. Außerdem wollte ich ein Template auf meine Benutzerseite einfügen (Uses Mozilla Firefox Browser). Gibts so was und wo finde ich das? Würde mich freuen von dir zu hören. Gruß--Cruks (talk) 14:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Hallo Thomas, wilkommen zur Englischen Wikipedia.
Deutsch sprechend ist nicht gleich deutsch schreibend, entschuldige bitte die läusige Grammatik und die miese Rechtschreibung.
Zu Deiner Anfrage: Artikel-Sichtung wie sie auf de.wikipedia läuft gibt es hier gegenwärtig nicht - wir haben kürzlich einen Test einer Variante abgeschlossen und werden wahrscheinlich die nächsten Paar Semester damit verbringen, uns zu Tode labern, um festzustellen ob wir es behalten sollen oder nicht. Neue Artikel sind daher vom Anfang an Live, und das ist hier natürlich auch der Fall.
Zum Benutzertemplate, die Liste aller möglichen Userboxen findest Du ganz unten auf WP:Userboxes. Für Firefox gibt es eine ganze Menge an Möglichkeiten, zB {{User MF}} oder {{User firefox2}}. Gruss, MLauba (Talk) 22:10, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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