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Draft:Microfrontend

Hi, I saw you draftified this. I'd like to request you move it back to mainspace and AFD it if you do not think it is notable. I rescued it and moved it to its present name and added references, and I believe it is a notable industry term. Andre🚐 17:09, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Andrevan: Ok. I draftified because it was created as part of a spam spree (see Special:Permalink/1116221223). I removed the spam part from the article. Best, MarioGom (talk) 18:43, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Andre🚐 19:08, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

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SPI

I am not yet autoconfirmed on meta-wiki, so I am not able to request global locks myself, but could you also request a global lock for Paris CP 19926, per the SPI results? Join Instagram at Under 13 has been globally locked for cross-wiki abuse multiple times, and is now evading this lock. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 19:56, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Among Us for POTUS:  Done. Thanks. MarioGom (talk) 20:39, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Adding sock templates

I used the spihelper.js script to add sock templates to the accounts under Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Join_Instagram_at_Under_13/Archive. Am I not supposed to do this? The script let me, but I'm not sure if only clerks are allowed to add tags. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 17:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Among Us for POTUS See {{Sockpuppeteer}}: In general, this template should only be used by Administrators or Clerks as part of the Sockpuppet investigations process. Please, don't do it. And in particular, do not override tags added by CUs or clerks. Thanks. MarioGom (talk) 17:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I see. Sorry about that. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 17:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I will go and revert the ones I overwrote. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 17:38, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I reverted all the sock tags I added, and the user pages/categories that I created to add sock tags to have all been deleted (I tagged them for speedy deletion and they are gone now). I think this should fix it. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 18:11, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Among Us for POTUS: Thank you. MarioGom (talk) 18:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thank you for your help over at COIN. John Milum 09:02, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

FWKTZS created a new account

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/FWKTZS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FWKTZS456

Bamnamu (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Armenian student project

Thanks for clarifying the situation. Unfortunately, the large majority of the edits made by those students were counter-productive. I wish teachers would give better guidance to their students before sending them on wikipedia. Best, --LK (talk) 07:03, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Lawrencekhoo: If they continue to be disruptive, some WikiEdu instructor might be able to help. Otherwise, other venues to report disruptive editing will work better than SPI. Best, MarioGom (talk) 13:00, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Well noted. I believed it was just one person, who was possibly banned before, which is why I took it to SPI. Best, --LK (talk) 04:03, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

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Women in Red January 2023

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Unproductive and unjustified actions are not good reviews

Dear @MarioGom I see you doing a lot on the Reviewer's side and that is admirable. I would love if you would maybe also do it with more care and focus on specifies of content like Mobilizon. For example you make claim about that article needs reliable sources, which is very generic statement, that anyone can agree with, but provide zero evidence to why any of the existing sources are unreliable or what content part is not covered? Do you find one of the leading and 40 year old publication PC Mag unreliable? ChaosComputerCongres as longest and biggest standing hacking event? The French NextINpact? Swiss LeCourrier? Without listing specific feedback it feels like you might be focusing on just getting more reviewer action, rather then being constructive and supportive. You did not even noticed that Mobilizon is not an organization, so sending me the link to WP:NCORP is totally out of place. I can imagine around NYE many of us are not fully focused so I will drop it, but please do not send translated articles to Draft space, just because sources are not understood by you and also without very specific feedback on what you criticize. This kind of situations reads as toxic and makes new Wikipedians turn away from contributing at the expanse of quantity of bad or mediocre review work. Have a wonderful 2023 and thank you for work! --Zblace (talk) 06:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Zblace: Hello! I'm sorry the dractification came across as unjustified. Note that an article being translated does not make any difference in terms of review, except that it needs to be checked for attribution. At the time I draftified, the article had 10 sources. Most of them were links to Mobilizon or Framablog, which are not independent. Others were primary sources, such as events.open-society.ch. The NextINpact source is routine coverage with 2 paragraphs what are direct quotes from Framasoft and a couple of lines more. When considering notability criteria, this does not count as significant or independent at all. The Agilap article does not even mention Mobilizon. These sources barely support any notability, so I don't see how draftification was unjustified.

Anyway, I see you added a some additional sources now, including PC Mag (thank you!), and also that Onel marked the article as reviewed. Best, MarioGom (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Feedback request: History and geography request for comment

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February 2023 Labour Edit-a-thon

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Women in Red in February 2023

Women in Red Feb 2023, Vol 9, Iss 2, Nos 251, 252, 255, 256, 257, 259 Online events: New: Alphabet run O & P | Black women | Justice | Folklore Continuing: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman Tip of the month: Explore Wikipedia for all variations of the woman's name (birth name, married name, re-married name, pen name, nickname) Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Question

Hello. I don't think we have ever spoken before, but I know that you are an editor who takes part at SPI. I have a question about SPI.

Suppose an account has 82 edits since 2015 and no edits since 13 October 2021, more than a year ago. Suppose the account received an echo notification from a talk page on 28 January 2023 and showed up on the talk page 17 hours later (despite having not edited for more than a year). Suppose the account that sent the echo notification made 450+ edits in 2009 (including 340+ in August 2009) and virtually no edits till 170+ edits from 27 January 2023.

Is it likely that someone would keep the password of an account with a few hundred edits during fourteen years of inactivity (instead of getting a new account under COMPSOCK)? Is likely that someone would login to their account every day for more than a year despite making no edits?

I assume that the behaviour in the second question is very unlikely, but I don't have enough experience to make a judgement call. James500 (talk) 21:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

James500: I have no idea about what your observations of echo notifications mean. To all your questions: yes, I guess it's possible. MarioGom (talk) 22:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

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Second opinion

Hi @MarioGom. Thanks for your helpful reply in NPP talk page. Going off of what you said, and in an effort to cool down a particular exchange, I was wondering if I could get a second pair of eyes on a review issue I've recently encountered. There is an editor who clearly seems passionate about a very specific architectural niche discussed in an article Silent Erasure: A Satellite Investigation of the Destruction of Armenian Heritage in Nakhchivan, Azerbaijan (https://indd.adobe.com/view/2a6c8a55-75b0-4c78-8932-dc798a9012fb). The topic is clearly both historically and culturally relevant, but the editor appears to be producing a lot of short articles on these individual buildings that, at least in some cases, might not pass WP:NBUILD. Here is an example to one I just tagged St. Hripsime Church (Kultepe); in the meantime, another one popped up: St. Tovma Monastery (Chalkhangala). More recently, a third building was draftified by a different reviewer. Judging by the tone of their reply to my initial feedback from page curation, I can tell that it would be beneficial to have someone else take a look at the subject more broadly, especially that a project of this scale might perhaps be better addressed by a separate list article that includes all of them and provides clear rationale for separate pages dedicated to specific buildings. I'd appreciate your input. Thanks so much! Ppt91 (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Ppt91: I'll have a look. MarioGom (talk) 10:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2023

Women in Red Mar 2023, Vol 9, Iss 3, Nos 251, 252, 258, 259, 260, 261 Online events: New: Geofocus Mediterranean | Art + Activism | Alphabet run Q & R Continuing: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman | Folklore See also: #Visible Wiki Women Wikimedia challenge to add more images of women to Commons Tip of the month: Mobile phone readers may only see the article "lead" – take some time to make it shine! Include something to keep people reading. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Question on SPI closure

I see you closed the SPI case I opened at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MarketingFlippa. If the accounts are obvious socks of an account blocked for promotional editing, shouldn't they have indefinite hard blocks as well? TornadoLGS (talk) 01:52, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

TornadoLGS: 78.26 soft blocked FlippaMarketing on 28 February 2022 [1] with a message that indicated they could continue editing by requesting a rename or a creating a new account. They requested the rename 28 February 2022 [2]. This request would have been granted if it was well-formatted. Then the user created a new account with a similar name to the one they requested, which was a valid action, and suggests there was no attempt to evade detection, but just following the given instructions.

While there was a previous hard block to MarketingFlippa by Cullen328 on 28 October 2022 [3], I chose to follow the most recent communication with the user (the soft block). There was obviously no detection evasion attempt between MarketingFlippa and FlippaMarketing creation either, so I assumed good faith and followed the least principle of least astonishment by not pulling a the block evasion card at this point, although doing so would also be ok according the policy. The current account, ToryFG, has a single uncontroversial edit [4], so we can just wait and see.

Any admin can override my recommendation at SPI, and I pinged the previous blocking admins in this message, just in case they want to review the case. MarioGom (talk) 07:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

MarioGom, I am not inclined to object if another administrator using good judgment wants to unblock someone that I have blocked. But I am a bit concerned about unblocking a person who has twice created accounts with "marketing" in their username. Does this editor clearly understand that all marketing activities are strictly forbidden on Wikipedia, and have they committed to refrain from all marketing, advertising, promotional and public relations activity on Wikipedia? Cullen328 (talk) 08:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Cullen328: It's early to say, I posted another warning yesterday: [5]. That being said, I won't object to a block either, if you'd prefer the user to use a block appeal rather than possibly ignoring warnings. Also note that there was no formal unblock, just 2 blocks, one hard, and one soft. MarioGom (talk) 15:42, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I was unaware of the other account when I made the soft block. I soft block because I felt the user was either a)editing about their company in draft space, which is allowed or b)making factual changes for their client, in either case I didn't feel the edits were "blatantly promotional". I am fine with any action any other administrator deems appropriate. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:28, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I figured there was no intent to conceal that they were the same person or group, but I thought that creating a sock account to circumvent a block (a hard block in the case of MarketingFlippa) was a zero-tolerance matter, grounds for an immediate indefinite block (and it is listed at Wikipedia:Zero tolerance). Also @78.26:, while we may disagree, the language added in this pair of edits seems like a blatant advertisement to me. Portions of the text also appear copied from here. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Ugh... whelp, looks like I messed up on that one, either didn't read far enough, or missed that edit entirely. First person editing ("We help our community...") is just plain a pet peeve of mine. Definitely should have hard blocked. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 23:36, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Gender imbalance per country

I just happened across Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Gender imbalance per country. Where does the data on this come from? I assume it's some Wikidata query? I ask because I noticed it's about a year old now and I think it would be interesting to see the current numbers. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:00, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Thebiguglyalien: Yes, it comes from Wikidata queries. I'm running them again and I'll update them soon. Thanks for the heads up. MarioGom (talk) 07:02, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

SPI still in need of a move

This SPI still needs moving right? To avoid further confusion with Rajputbhatti ... Iskandar323 (talk) 16:55, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Iskandar323: Not really. I did a separate report for that: [6]. The original report had one account that apparently was Jobas, so I did not move it. MarioGom (talk) 17:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Ah ok. Gottcha. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:30, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Need your help here

Hi, need your help here CrashLandingNew (talk) 11:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

CrashLandingNew: I fixed the format of your report: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Naseeb2468. Now you should just wait until a clerk processes the case. MarioGom (talk) 13:25, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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Njalla

I've removed this edit from Njalla. Looking for sources on the topic, from what I can tell, the ICANN controversy involves another registrar that Sunde had affiliations to called Sarek and not Njalla. If I'm wrong and you'd like to point me to something that shows otherwise, you can do so. --Dawnbails (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Dawnbails: It's been a while since I read this, but if I recall correctly, the controversy was related to Njalla since Peter Sunde disassociated from Njalla as a result, to avoid it affecting Njalla. MarioGom (talk) 15:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Page moved to draft

Hi MarioGom - I made a couple of edits to a page "Nick Savides" today and it looks like you made an edit to move it to "Draft:Nick Savides". The page has been live for several months now. What can I do to reinstate it? Thank you. Ver1tey (talk) 03:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello Ver1tey: I draftified the article because it was created for undisclosed payments. The article can be submitted for review by following the instructions in the banner under the "Draft article not currently submitted for review." header. Best, MarioGom (talk) 06:58, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Ver1tey (talk) 17:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Mario, I noticed your posts to VICWW2399 and WestHamFC91 and was wondering if you intended to file a report at SPI. I would block them based on behavior without an SPI, but I think a check to look for other accounts would be useful. I'm happy to file the SPI, but you're the one who spotted them.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:20, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Bbb23: I'm not planning to report them. I noticed them but I didn't check if they were abusive enough for me to care. Feel free to proceed. MarioGom (talk) 16:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Your reports at SPI

Mario, lately I've noticed you filing a lot of reports at SPI. If you think users are socks, why don't you file as a clerk and ask an admin to impose whatever sanctions you think are appropriate? If you are not sure about the sock issue, why don't you make it clear that you are filing for more input, or for a check, or whatever? Not sure how other clerks feel about this. You could always ask at the SPI talk page and get more people's views.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Bbb23: I sometimes self-endorse for CU, but I prefer another clerk or patrolling admin to double check for me. I always have a high degree of confidence in what I report. Otherwise I don't report it. Maybe I should go directly to request admin action... after all, the admin who imposes the block should do that double check anyway. MarioGom (talk) 16:12, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Bbb23: I have discussed it with some other clerks, who would also favor me being more explicit about wanting a second opinion. MarioGom (talk) 16:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) What I don't see is the difference between you evaluating someone else's report and making a finding and you making a finding in advance and filing your own report. That's why I think you "should go directly to request admin action". As for double-checking, I can't speak for other administrators, I make sure nothing weird stands out, but I don't verify your finding. If you were an admin clerk, you'd block; you're not, so you must request it, but it's your clerk status that gives you the authority. If you were an admin clerk, the only check would be before archiving, and that's usually just to make sure you, the closing clerk, did everything you said you would, like tags, etc.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:18, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

@Bbb23 I like Mario's philosophy of wanting another set of eyes to review their work, and encourage them to continue doing things they way they're doing it now. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:33, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, you have more authority than I do, but it makes no sense.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Bbb23: I get your point. I'll re-evaluate how I approach this, and I'll probably be more explicit going forward. For me, the thought process of assessing someone else's report is a bit different from investigations I initiate on my own. When I'm evaluating someone else's report, I start assuming it's bullshit. So there's some adversarial testing of evidence. I have a quite systematic methodology to behavioral evidence that I apply to both scenarios, but being adversarial to oneself is... not really the same. I guess this is just an involved way of saying that I feel more confident if I'm sanity-checked from time to time ;-) MarioGom (talk) 17:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

When I'm evaluating someone else's report, I start assuming it's bullshit. Fascinating; why? I find that all reports are different. Some filers do a good job, and some don't. I sometimes make presumptions based on the experience of the filer, but otherwise I take each one as it comes.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Not all of them are the same, report quality varies a lot, but very often they are weak. And even if they look strong, I try to challenge the assumptions of the report. When I'm looking for socks on my own, I look for some very specific cues. While these initial cues can be pretty strong, there's some risk of confirmation bias as I go onto the next stages (gathering evidence, and then testing whether it could be spurious). Whether these differences play a significant role in the end result or not is probably something that an external observer is better equipped to judge. MarioGom (talk) 18:16, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Chiming in: while I get your point of view, I think I wrote in an essay I have on cuwiki something along the lines of SPI isn't a court, suspected accounts don't have due process rights, and the standard of proof isn't beyond a reasonable doubt.

The standard for a sock block is the same as any other block on Wikipedia: is the account causing disruption to the project. If its more likely than not that they're the same user and they're violating policy, or even if its just possible and they're behaving in the exact same manner that got a previous user blocked and it is disruptive, a block can be justified.

All that to say, I wouldn't start with the assumption every report is BS. There are some users who are much better at spotting socks than others, there are some accounts which are obviously socks on their face, and then there are people who file vindictive SPIs against people who are their enemies but not socking, and others where people file stupid reports against someone who forgot a password 12 years ago. The context of the report is what should drive the level of skepticism something receives. If a CU on another project files an SPI on en.wiki, and they say its been blocked on a different project, I'm extremely likely to believe them and run a check on it. That's a part of the context, and I shouldn't start by assuming they're wrong. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely. I agree with this, and I have seen instances of the various classes of reports you mention. MarioGom (talk) 10:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I always assumed that filing and not actioning cases was implicitly asking for a second opinion. I don't have a problem with that, but I almost never do it myself, because I don't file anything that I'm not confident merits either a block or a check. I've only done it twice that I can remember - in both cases the suspected socks were tenured users with tens of thousands of edits, and my asking for a second opinion wasn't because I wasn't sure they were socks, but to back up my evidence in case they appealed the block.

I wouldn't assume that cases are bullshit by default - I actually think that most cases have some merit, but many filers are bad at presenting evidence in a clear and convincing manner. I often ignore the filing and just look at the accounts myself. My standard for blocking is: does this look like the same person to me, and is the evidence strong enough to convince other admins of it? Like Tony mentioned, the overall behaviour of the accounts matters too. I have a lower threshold for sock-blocking someone who's clearly a spammer, for example, because they'll probably end up getting indeffed at some point anyway. Spicy (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

My bullshit assumption comment was not the smartest thing for me to say. I understand, and generally share, the points Tony, Bbb23 and you are making (about context, SPI not being a court, etc). My previous comments were just a rough explanation of the thought process I have followed so far when filing cases myself, and not really a comprehensive position on how I evaluate reports.

To the original question in this thread, which was about the way I file reports, I take the advice onboard: be explicit about whether I'm requesting a second opinion or requesting action.

I don't think I have much more to add here. But I'm happy to have further discussions about how to file SPI reports, how to evaluate reports, methodology, confirmation bias, etc, if any of you feels like it. MarioGom (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Sorry if my post came off as criticism - that wasn't what I intended. I mainly wanted to start a discussion about how others approach evaluating evidence at SPI. I'm a bit surprised, for example, about Bbb23's statement that he doesn't verify the evidence for himself before carrying out an {{awaitingadmin}} request. I don't think it's wrong - arguably that's the entire point of having non-admin clerks. But it's not how I do things. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just find the differences in practice interesting. Spicy (talk) 21:38, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Well, this has certainly been a lively and, as Spicy says, interesting conversation. Wikipedians don't share practices that often, and sometimes when we do, it's again, as Spicy says, surprising. I'm not sure we always want to know.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Bri: Most admins that were active in the recent past are not so active in the area nowadays. I don't want to pester any of them individually, but I guess a reminder could be posted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject on open proxies or WP:AN? MarioGom (talk) 21:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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SPI tagging

Hello, MarioGom,

In Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MartinPict you stated that you were going to tag the confirmed and suspected sockpuppets' pages. But there is nothing regarding User:Waterdoyle that indicates an association with another editor on the project, not on their User page, not in the block notice on their Contributions page and there is no block notice on their User talk page. I realize that if the evidence is accurate, the editor will know they have been socking but I think if any questions arise, it's important to provide as much information as possible. I wouldn't necessarily have expected a tag on the User page but since you say in the SPI that you are taking care of it, I was surprised not to see it. Let me know if I have misunderstood anything. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:39, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Liz: Thanks for the heads up. SPI clerks generally do not tag unblocked accounts. At the time of my comment at SPI, I tagged the confirmed accounts that were already blocked, and requested further blocks. I guess my comment was confusing, because I said I'm tagging, when I should probably have said I tagged. I was only referring to accounts blocked before my comment. Anyway, now I added the missing tags to ParisDakarPeräjärvi and Waterdoyle. As for block notices in user talk pages, these should be placed by the blocking admin. Courcelles: Would you mind checking these blocks and add block notices? Thanks! MarioGom (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

@Liz what are you looking for? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/MartinPict&diff=prev&oldid=1162562506. We never tell the socks we are blocking them. Courcelles (talk) 16:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Sock investigation

Hey MarioGom

Do sockpuppet investigations not mean anything anymore?

I posted this 15 days ago:

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Arjun19990012

Will this get looked at before I die?

(141.132.22.19 (talk) 08:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC))

Maybe. Your report is not the only one in the backlog. MarioGom (talk) 11:38, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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User:MarioGom/sandbox/MEK characterization proposal

Please let me know when you're ready to start an RFC on this. I plan on using the approved CTOP sanctions to try and keep the RFC on point and from getting too sprawling. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

ScottishFinnishRadish: Thank you! That will be very helpful. I still have to go through some more sources and then figure out what the proposal will be. There is both the question about what the characterization should be, and whether it belongs to the lede at all. MarioGom (talk) 18:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

ScottishFinnishRadish: I will probably take quite some more time before opening that RFC. There's only so many open disputes I can track simultaneously before my head explodes ;-) But I will notify you when the time comes. Thank you again. MarioGom (talk) 12:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

No worries. I'm keeping an eye on the discussions on that talk page as well to see if I can get a grasp on what's going on with the talk page and all of the logjams. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

ScottishFinnishRadish: I'm getting ready to start this RFC. See User:MarioGom/sandbox/MEK characterization proposal. The RFC question is in the Draft RFC section. As support material, plan to include the summary table, as well as the reference list in the "Independent sources" section. Do you have any feedback about it? Before starting the RFC, I plan to start a workshop thread to give everyone a chance to add more options to the RFC, add more sources to the initial list or challenge the selected quotes. MarioGom (talk) 17:01, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Looks good, and the workshop is a good idea, as other editors may want to try out some other language. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:55, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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Tagging

Thanks for taking care of all the tagging at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Belugajdm. I was going to do it, but you beat me to it. :-) --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:17, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Drm310: No problem. Given the size of the case, it can still use a review deeper than usual before archiving though. Also I see now that this could have been a good training activity, so don't hesitate to note that you intend to do something in a case for others to leave it aside for a while. MarioGom (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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SPI interpretation

Perhaps there's been a misunderstanding in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/64.114_etc, so let's make sure we're on the same page.

Here is what I believe happened: An IP 64.114.239.31 did something to get blocked for a year in October 2022. Someone created an account named "64.114 etc", and in that user's page, it says they're that blocked person, which I believe passes as admission that passes WP:DUCK. I'm guessing the IP was blocked from anonymous editing or creating account, but not prevented for registered user from using. Perhaps they went and registered an account on their phone so they can continue to edit from the computer by logging-in before serving the block time. Graywalls (talk) 17:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Graywalls: Unless there is any current disruption, I don't think some mistake done before registering an account should be taken as a reason to indef. Let's just give some WP:ROPE. If you think there's ongoing disruption, or that past actions with that IP give the impression that a block is needed now to prevent harm to the project, let me know and I will reopen the case. If you don't agree with this take, I can reopen and ask for another opinion. MarioGom (talk) 18:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Graywalls: There is a second account following the same pattern, so I have reopened the case. MarioGom (talk) 07:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Related to sockpuppet investigation

Hi MarioGom!

Ref.: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TechGenWikinator03

I think the user that you've tagged @Bishdatta appears to be inactive from 21 October, 2022 as they have not made any contribution post that date.

Also, could you add me into any training group so that I can learn to make use of various Wikipedia tools if any such training groups exist?

Thank you Thewikizoomer (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Thewikizoomer: you can start at Help:Introduction or ask for help at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. But I would suggest you to start by avoiding picking fights with others, and use talk pages to politely resolve disputes. MarioGom (talk) 17:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Great! I'll check them out and enrol myself in. :)

I second with you. I'm completely against picking any fights. Related to the recent event, I was trying to respond to the user terming my username as hostile and I'm only trying to clear confusion related to the article.

Thank you @MarioGom Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Thewikizoomer: It is great that you commit to contributing to Wikipedia, but I think you could benefit from some further guidance. Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user is a mentorship program that you could be interested in. Best, MarioGom (talk) 14:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have a look at it. I now understood that I should request for administrator intervention for vandalism cases.

Thank you MarioGom Thewikizoomer (talk) 15:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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Additional account overlooked at SPI

Hi, Hopefully before archival of this case you just closed — an additional account seems to have been overlooked. Sorry for taking this to your talkpage but I'd already tried pinging the previous attending admin on the case page to no avail.

Cheers, 2406:3003:2077:1E60:A3EF:7617:2021:2DE7 (talk) 06:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

That account has not edited since 2021. Feel free to report it again if it becomes active. MarioGom (talk) 16:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Understood, thanks. 2406:3003:2077:1E60:A3EF:7617:2021:2DE7 (talk) 17:11, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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Buenas. Tenía pendiente dejar este mensaje desde hace un tiempo, pero quería darte las gracias por los comentarios que realizaste en la discusión sobre la que te había notificado, a pesar de las diferencias editoriales que hemos podido tener. Estoy a la disposición en caso de que necesites ayuda para artículos relacionados en Venezuela, particularmente si es necesario buscar fuentes o referencias. Saludos cordiales y un abrazo, NoonIcarus (talk) 14:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

NoonIcarus: Muchas gracias por tu mensaje. Me gusta pensar que en Wikipedia siempre hay sitio para colaborar incluso cuando pueda haber diferencias políticas notables ;-) Saludos y un abrazo. MarioGom (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

My apologies

I apologise for Special:Diff/1173862128. I did not realise that I wasn’t allowed to change the status. I’ll try my best to remember to not do it again, if I’m involved in any SPIs in the future.

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A smart kitten: No problem. MarioGom (talk) 22:24, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hi MarioGom,

Thank you for your close at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zahida2013. I agree with your decision to allow the user a bit more rope, given the limited nature of the violation. However, I took a look at their talk page and saw that they've doubled down on the deception, claiming to not be "aware" of having used multiple accounts. As is made clear by the details of the case –– where the two accounts were used minutes apart to create the illusion of support –– this is not credible. Being generous with second chances is a good thing, but I would suggest that having people think they can get away with deception like this is detrimental to the project. Thanks for giving this your consideration. Generalrelative (talk) 01:02, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Generalrelative: Thank you for the heads up. I will follow up in their talk page. MarioGom (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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In reference to this SPI case, I have some information I want to share but it includes a semi-experienced user. I previously shared through the PAID-Wiki email but no response. Since that time, I have additional information and wondering if there is another private avenue to share the information. CNMall41 (talk) 17:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

CNMall41: paid-en@ is the best place for off-wiki evidence, and there are usually answers (but there is a huge backlog). If you want to discuss the circumstances of the report, feel free to email me. MarioGom (talk) 17:44, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I figured as much. There has been a lot of it lately so I'm sure they are swamped. I will email you shortly, but I will warn you, it is a rabbit hole and likely leads to the paid agency you linked to in the SPI comments. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:51, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

CNMall41: I'm in for UPE rabbit holes ;-) MarioGom (talk) 18:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Email sent. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Follow up email also sent with more info. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for all your quick, helpful work on SPIs. It's always a cheerup when one of your edits appears on my watchlist. Wikishovel (talk) 07:43, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Wikishovel ;-) MarioGom (talk) 07:49, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Lazy-restless

Regarding your conclusion here, how Bringtar could be canvassed off-wiki when Lazy-restless was only socking with IPs at that time when Bringtar got reactivated?

I must note that AfD was not the only thing here. Bringtar's gross WP:BLP violations and problematic content on List of converts to Islam from Hinduism of more than 30,000 bytes,[7] was never restored by anyone. It was restored only by Lazy-restless with this proxy IP sock, 202.134.10.130 and same IP also edited about Ved Prakash Upadhyay.[8] That is the same article which Bringtar was saving by logging in after almost 2 years.[9]

Then both Bringtar and this Lazy-restless have problem with me leaving DS-alert to Bringtar.[10][[11]

Not to mention that both Lazy-restless and Bringtar have falsely accused me of sockpuppetry by starting SPIs where both are targeting years old accounts with thousands of edits.[12][13]

This is a clear-cut WP:DUCK case and should result in block. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 03:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Aman.kumar.goel: I don't think these IPs are proxies, they seem to be just regular residential addresses, although that does not make a difference in this case. The connection between the IP and Bringtar seems to be clear, but I don't see so clear evidence that the IP is Lazy-restless. If there's further evidence connecting the IP to Lazy-restless, let me know and I will review it. On this being a clear-cut duck case... when no clerk or admin acts on a case for almost a month, that's usually because it's not clear-cut at all. MarioGom (talk) 17:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. You said "connection between the IP and Bringtar seems to be clear," I agree. But there should be no doubt that this short-lived sock created after the SPI was also the same IP and Bringtar, since he made the same false accusation of sockpuppetry as the IP,[14][15] and also urged to include "Rahman" on conversions list just like Bringtar did.[16][17] Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 03:32, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Aman.kumar.goel: I don't know what's the link between Deepmason and Lazy-restless. Girth Summit might be able to add some more information here, since he placed a checkuser block on Deepmason. However, there was no mention of it in the SPI of the relation, and no tags in the account. There's some other possible reasons other than being confirmed to a master. If these reasons include a connection between an account and an IP, that connection cannot be disclosed publicly. That being said, even if it cannot be linked to the master, Bringtar could possibly be blocked if connected to Deepmason. I will post a notice to other clerks at WT:SPI/C for someone else to review the case. Best, MarioGom (talk) 19:59, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, I saw that Deepmason and Planethabitat were confirmed to each other, and  Technically indistinguishable from the globally locked account Md. Sajidul Alam, but I wasn't convinced they were the same as Lazy-restless, so I blocked them. Can't think why I didn't explain that in the SPI case - it's possible I got side-tracked and forgot to come back and add a note. Girth Summit _(blether) 07:22, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Gosh, actually now that I look at it again, I think Deepmason/Planethabitat probably is Lazy-restless - they're on a different IP range, but there are some other factors that would probably have put me in  Likely territory. Can't think why I didn't pick that up at the time - might be worth reopening that SPI and I'll do a proper job later today/tomorrow. Girth Summit _(blether) 07:28, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I've gone into the archive and added a couple of notes, and requested locks on the blocked accounts - think it's all tidied up now. Girth Summit _(blether) 10:41, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Girth Summit: Thank you! MarioGom (talk) 12:23, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Since it has been confirmed that Deepmason was also Lazy-restless, I think there is no problem in blocking Bringtar now. Right? Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 23:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, would you mind reviewing the new behavioral evidence that I provided for the Abrvagl investigation before it is archived? KhndzorUtogh (talk) 00:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

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@MarioGom You just solved one report filed by me quickly. Sorry for jumping the line. But one case filed by me is waiting for nearly 14 days. Can you also please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Snthilakammarist. The suspected master of the account has long list of cross-wiki abuse. If you think it should be seen today then it will be of great help. Cheers. ShaanSengupta^Talk 15:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

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Blueberry72

Hi, just to let you know Blueberry7 has been sending me death threats over email ever since I opened the SPI on them, where can I take it further from that please? -- мѕ. αmєrчkαh 06:48, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Ms._Amerykah: I'm sorry to hear that. Please, write an email to WMF's Trust & Safety team at ca@wikimedia.org. You can also forward the threats email to them. They will investigate and take any necessary action. MarioGom (talk) 09:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Okay the situation is going from ridiculous to disgusting. I can laugh at Ms. Amerykah's attempts to accuse me of being a sockpuppet without having a shred of evidence, but sending death threats is a crime. MarioGom I kindly ask you to take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MariaJaydHicky, it's been years since a user named MariaJaydHicky was blocked for genre warring and multiple accounts and keeps resurfacing on wikipedia via numerous sockpuppets or IPs from the UK. One of her favorite attempts to respond to accusations, aside from deleting reports, is to accuse other users of being sockpuppets of Giubbotto non ortodosso for which she seems to have an obsession. She does this mostly with me because seven years ago I was mistakenly blocked as Giubbotto's sockpuppet and later unblocked, but she does it with other users as well, as can be verified by user Aoi's post in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MariaJaydHicky#Comments by other users. Ms._Amerykah I wonder if you'll really follow the instructions MarioGom gave you and what evidence you will present. Blueberry72 (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Blueberry72: Please, do not rehearse the dispute on my talk page. I suggest you both to just be patient and wait for the SPI reports to be processed. MarioGom (talk) 16:53, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hello how are you? I want to ask you if you can merge on wikipedia in Spanish merge these two articles and that deal with the same topic of the the Re'im music festival massacre between Gaza and Israel but both articles created are on Wikipedia in Spanish --190.219.223.224 (talk) 23:06, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

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I've seen that the Cyber Skills Center page was redirected on 7th December 2023 due to notability concerns (WP:ORGCRIT). Could you share which specific notability criteria were not met? If there were any discussions that led to this decision, links to those would be helpful for context.

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Hi Jeremywade10: what WP:ORGCRIT requires is that the organization is subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. You have further explanation of how to apply this in the section just below that (WP:SIRS). Sources need to be independent. Interviews are not independent reporting. So for a source about the organization, you should discount any passage that is just direct or indirect quotes from the organization and consider only what's left of independent reporting. Also the coverage needs to be in-depth (WP:ORGDEPTH). Brief routine, coverage of the organization creation are not considered significant coverage. MarioGom (talk) 10:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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