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Halloween Template
Actually, you have to not revert and start a discussion. Per WP:BRD, you were bold in making a change to the template. It was reverted, and you should have immediately started a discussion about the potential change. There is no policy or guideline that says that link must be on the left, and aesthetically, it's not even that nice to see. So, it is your responsibility to start a discussion and try and persuade the people who created the template, and who have worked on the template that moving it to the left is the better option. Otherwise, you're trying to claim that you should be able to change it, and that I have to find a consensus to change it back. That isn't the case. The consensus must be found to make the change in the first place. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 23:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Don't warn me, you've reverted as much as me. Secondly, per WP:BRD it is your responsibility to start a discussion. You do not have any consensus to change the template, and I don't even see a discussion. Where is this discussion that you've supposedly started? It isn't at Template talk:Halloween series, where is SHOULD be. Where is it? You said you started a discussion and that I didn't take part in it, because you never informed me of where it was. I contacted YOU, on YOUR talk page. You never responded on the talk page. Actually, you archived it without a response. You haven't contacted me on my talk page about it. So no, you have not started any discussion with me about it, and if you started one somewhere else please show me where you notified me of the discussion. As such, you have no consensus for your change, and you have no policy or guideline to even support your viewpoint. I don't believe it looks better the way you placed it, I don't believe it makes it easier to access for readers, and I know that there is no policy or guideline stating that it should be there. So there are my rebuttals, which I have told you before in prior communications. So, until you start a real discussion, at the proper location or actually show me where you supposedly had the old discussion so that I can see some actual consensus, please do not change the template. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:53, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- Just for your courtesy, Template talk:Halloween series#Where to link? - here is a discussion that has been started, which is what you should have done originally. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- I was only aggravated by the statement that you had started a discussion and that I had not responded. I assumed that you had started one somewhere else and just never notified me of that discussion. I went ahead (see above link) and started a centralized discussion. I'll post a request for comment at WP:FILMS and WP:HORROR for additional opinions, as I'm not sure how much attention we'll actually get on the template (simply because there just isn't a lot of regular activity on it). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- P.S. I have no hard feelings. Here are links to all of the notifications I posted (WP:FILMS, WP:HORROR, Halloween (franchise) page, and WP:NAVTEMPS) so that you can hopefully verify that I left objective, neutral requests for comments. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:24, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Removal of PROD from Dave Padden
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Request for speedy delete of Lesly
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Removal of PROD from Liquidator (Darkwing Duck)
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RfD nomination of Sordid
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- I've added Sordidly (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Sordidness (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), also created by you in 2008, to the above discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 12:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
List of The Adventures of Tintin characters
Sorry about the "minor" issue. I clicked on it by mistake and saved the page before I could reverse it. Again, my apologies.--Marktreut (talk) 16:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help regarding Animaniacs
I appreciate your help in merging the Animaniacs characters I appreciate your help. I was wondering if you could help me I am trying to clean up many of the Masters of the Universe articles but its tough doing it by myself. These are the ones I think need most attention List of She-Ra: Princess of Power characters I nominated a few characters to be merged that article.
I think Horde Trooper should be merged to Evil Horde and Zoar (He-Man) into Sorceress of Castle Grayskull.. Your input would be most appreciated. Dwanyewest (talk) 17:50, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Waterloo Road
Hi there Neelix. Just noticed you responded to my comment about my decision to defer from the Waterloo Road article, and I just wanted to wish you good luck with it. :) ShedMediaUK (talk) 21:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Since you are good at it
Could you fix this my little pony template Template:My Little Pony Dwanyewest (talk) 22:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks once again for sorting out Masters of the Universe articles I hope if you don't mind sorting out Darkly Dawns the Duck Dwanyewest (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
re: Your comment at ANI
Cheers, and thanks for your openness on the issue. I'm glad your account was not actually compromised. When you come back from your Wikibreak, would you mind tagging some of the other redirects that were likely inappropriate with {{db-g7}}. Hope the weather is better where you are, and you're making good use of the time away. Cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- Welcome back! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
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Belgariad Location Merge
I wish to notify you that I disagree with the recent merge of the individual locations in the Belgariad. Each one should have it's own page. Please contact me.--Stephen C Wells (talk) 18:51, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry if I seemed a little angry. It's just, I'm new here and wasn't aware of the debate. I personally think that they are notable enough and I'll try not to sound rude in the future. Thanks.--Stephen C Wells (talk) 19:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh. This has nothing to do with the issue, but I hear you made the Warriors series template. I've read those books and enjoyed them, fairly much. I didn't even know they were covered on Wikipedia (although I should have guessed!)--Stephen C Wells (talk) 19:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Quick question. You mentioned turning the Geography in The Belgariad and The Malloreon page into a featured list. Well to tell you the truth, and I'm being honest about this, but I have no idea what a featured list is. Can you enlighten me please?--Stephen C Wells (talk) 19:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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I improved Chang Chong-Chen
I have added reliable sources for Chang Chong-Chen so I don't think it needs merging although I believe C.O.P.S. For Kids needs sorting out. Dwanyewest (talk) 04:12, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
moved Talk:Realism (visual arts) to Talk:Realist visual arts (Disambiguators are for disambiguating from separate concepts, not subcategorization.)
A very bad move, which should certainly not have been done without a debate. The "rationale" makes no sense, and the move goes against all naming conventions, inventing a phrase never found & virtually meaningless. What are "Realist visual arts"?? There's no such thing. Realism is a historical movement in the visual arts, as in other branches. This would have been obvious if you had looked at the article. Please reverse and, if you want, initiate a debate. Thank you. Johnbod (talk) 23:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
- I imagine the theatre people feel much the same about your move there. Johnbod (talk) 23:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support! Na nga def?
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You must get sick of hearing from me!!!
I need your help I created an article called Prostitution in Cambodia but it got merged by accident to Prostitution in Asia the original article has multiple sources if you wanna check it out do you know how to unmerge stuff? Dwanyewest (talk) 00:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Did a bit of tidying up. What do you think? HalfShadow 20:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
- Haven't read the books in years; just edited it in passing. It seemed pointless to state the characters were from a specific book if they were listed under it. I left a couple since they were in multiple books. HalfShadow 20:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
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You have my permission
Could you create archives on my talk page you have my permission to edit my talk page. Dwanyewest (talk) 23:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Why not merge or redirect?
Neelix, you're starting quite a few boilerplate AfD's on fictional topics, yet you list a mergeist userbox. Any particular reason you're asking for deletion, as opposed to just BOLDly merging or redirecting the content you find unnotable? Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 17:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Kamen Rider Dark Kabuto
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- Hi Mask,
- I was on a wikibreak when Bloom Field was deleted. As I am not an administrator, I am unable to view that page's history. I think it unlikely that I would have created an article with blatant copyright infringement. Would you mind looking into the page's history in order to determine the original purpose of my creating a page under that title? While I do not recall the form of the page as I created it originally, it appears to me that it should exist as a redirect to the Bloomfield disambiguation page.
User page vandalism
Hey, I got to your user page via browsing the Wikiproject Islands talk page, and I noticed that your user page was vandalized, so I rev'd it. cheers, Marcipangris (talk) 16:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I see you merged Bette Porter, but some IP reverted. Where's the discussion that decided the merge? I was going to revert the IP's edit, but I couldn't find a discussion on WP:AfD or the article's talk page... GorillaWarfare talk 21:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
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Before you go through with the deletion, again, let me give you the same reasons why it should not be deleted that I told User:Explicit when I requested that he undo the prod. The fictional character is notable as he has appeared in a notable television series (Kamen Rider Kabuto), was made into not one but two action figures, one of which is part of a limited run of popular characters and one of which is a standard release. In addition, the character appeared in another television series three years later (see and [1] and [2]) and also is a playable character in a recently released video game. Now before you go through AFD, please consider this.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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While I appreciate the attempt to clean up the template, the original formatting is the preferred method of dealing with organizing the templates in the series. In addition, you removed the mention of "Kiva-la" in the template for reasons you did not elucidate upon. It is practice to include a link to every Kamen Rider who is a primary character or is unique to the series, even if they only appear in the films, for which they are only given a section on the corresponding film's page unless they appear in more than one film and at that point they get their own article. The "Other characters" section in these templates usually includes a link to the antagonists of the series, but Decade was unique and this section only points to the three character lists. In addition, the link doesn't work that well against the colored backgrounds I've set up. If you have a better formatting style, I would like to see it otherwise.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Ryulong,
- The current format of the Kamen Rider navboxes is contrary to the generally accepted format for navboxes. Navboxes are supposed to contain as little non-linked text as possible; the colons after the section headings are superfluous and should be removed. Navboxes should also contain no duplicate links; there should not be a link to a section on an article when a direct link to the article is already included. Navboxes are for grouping related articles, not for presenting information; that is what articles are for. As such, a link to Kiva-la should not be included simply to make the list of Kamen Riders complete; that kind of information should be relegated to the content of articles. Navboxes should also be as compact as possible; there is no need to have two sections listing characters when one line can contain all the necessary links. As for the character list link not showing up well on the background, it can always be switched to black in the same fashion as the Kamen Rider Decade link at the top of the navbox.
- Neelix (talk) 23:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. So we're doing it differently because frankly we can. Please do not modify the template, again, or modify any of the other templates. There is nothing that says we can't have a separate line for the primary characters/protagonists from the secondary characters and antagonists. There's nothing that says the templates can't be as they are.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Ryulong,
- It is important for navboxes to be as simple as possible; it improves navigation, which is the purpose of navboxes. I outlined my reasoning for each of the changes I made above. You have not justified the alternate format you have imposed. "Because frankly we can" and "Well, we're doing it differently" are not adequate responses to the arguments I have made in support of the standard navbox format. If you continue to disagree with my edits, state your reasons for disagreeing here; do not simply revert my edits without explanation. I would be content for the navboxes to have a different format than the one I am suggesting if you demonstrated a different format to be more benificial.
You made an edit. I reverted it. We talk about it. You do not repeatedly revert to your version of the template after that. Learn about WP:BRD and stop edit warring. I do not like the formatting you have put in place and it is most definitely not required that every template use the same formatting and look the same. Just leave it be or I will report you for edit warring. Your opinions do not reflect the idea of the project, and neither do mine. But this was in place for months and people were able to navigate the pages using this.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:33, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- As a third uninvolved opinion on this matter(disclaimer: I was pinged on irc), yes, I agree that templates need to be as simple as possible, but that does not mean they should not fit on the page. It is unnecessary to stretch it as farther than it is supposed to go. Not everyone has the same-size monitor. To Navbox convention, the applicable thread should not be on a single article talk page, but on the project page. You should know better than to edit war, Nee, given your time here.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh)
I don't see any discussion for your move of Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh). That title was the result of considerable discussion on the article talk page. While the naming conventions make suggestions, Wikipedia editors are not required to follow them. I'm going to move the article back. If you're still concerned I suggest starting a structured move disucssion, per the procedures at WP:RM. Will Beback talk 00:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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The article Beaver Creek Camp has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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Thanks for completing the Goosebumps (Original series) merge. d'oh! talk 05:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
Hi D'oh,
Thank you for suggesting it! I'm really glad that editors are collaborating to better organize the Goosebumps-related articles.
Happy editing,
Neelix (talk) 05:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
re:Dad's Army characters
Hello - ah yes, I sortof forgot. I'm happy to do it, but you're welcome to have a go if you like. The only one I thought should probably stay as a separate article is Lance Corporal Jones, as even though the page isn't very good he is a main character. Bob talk 10:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't see how you can possibly argue that it is not helpful to have a link to the disambiguation page from articles such as John Jones (Tegid) and John Jones (Talysarn). Anyone with a bardic name is likely to be a writer, and it is most unlikely that non-Welsh-speaking readers will find it easy to tell them apart. Please give this more thought. Deb (talk) 19:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree with your conclusion. In my opinion, someone might easily get confused between Talysarn, Tegid and Talhaiarn and go straight to the wrong one. I also don't see how removing the hatnote is in any way more helpful than leaving it there. Deb (talk) 11:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, that re-naming is definitely not the answer. To suggest that John Jones (Methodist minister) is a better title than using the bardic name shows that (and I mean no offence by this) you have no appreciation of how many people in Wales share names and the way they are normally differentiated in the English language. There are literally thousands of notable clergymen in Welsh history, and many of them share names, hence the need for bardic names. Although the guideline may suggest an alternative naming convention, it is after all only a convention/guideline, not a hard and fast rule. Deb (talk) 17:13, 4 October 2010 (UTC)