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Anjalika

Hello Sampigesrini,

It seems to me that an article you worked on, Anjalika, may be copied from http://films.lk/FilmDetails.php?id=1723. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites.

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Hebbar language

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Ways to improve K.A. Narayan

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Thanks for creating K.A. Narayan! I edit here too, under the username Rosguill and it's nice to meet you :-)

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Hebbar Iyengar

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Dear @Whpq I don't have any relationship with the People I had created the new page for Brinda Acharya. I as a fan of the Actress created the page only. Actress Team will maintain the page. Please remove block on me for editing. Sampigesrini (talk) 15:58, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

You are not blocked from editing, but you do need to explain things like "Details provided by Team Brinda Acharya" and "Actress Team will maintain the page" which would seem to indicate that you have some relationship with the person's PR team. Whpq (talk) 19:40, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

@Whpq Yes I can share those details. please let me know to which email I can share? Sampigesrini (talk) 09:12, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I do not need their email. Just explain your relationship to them. -- Whpq (talk) 11:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

@Whpq I found that the actress didn't have a Wikipedia Page so I created one for her and contacted her on Instagram as a Fan and requested her to share more details on her Early Life and Career to update in the Wiki page. I received email from her Team with Photo and the information. That's all. No relation with them. Hope this clarifies. Sampigesrini (talk) 15:27, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but any material you add on their behalf must be verifiably freely licensed and sourced. -- Whpq (talk) 19:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

@Whpq Sure. They have already sent email permission to Wikimedia Commons releasing the rights for the Photo uploaded. Sampigesrini (talk) 04:52, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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