User talk:Shannonob90

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Speedy deletion nomination of PoolWerx[edit]

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A tag has been placed on PoolWerx, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. jsfouche ☽☾Talk 05:55, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Speedy at PoolWerx[edit]

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November 2011[edit]

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to John O'Brien (PoolWerx). While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your request for help[edit]

I have read your message on my talk page. Language such as "Founder and current CEO John O'Brien took this successful concept and used his considerable experience to structure a sophisticated franchise system" is unambiguously promotional, and conflicts with Wikipedia policy. If you can see that then you should be able to rewrite the article in more neutral terms. Sometimes people who work in marketing are so accustomed to marketing speak and promotional language that they are desensitised to it, and genuinely cannot see that what they are writing is promotional. Since I don't know anything about you I have no idea whether that applies to you, but if it doesn't then it is just a question of common sense, and trying to imagine how your writing will appear to an uninvolved person. Apart from the promotional tone, your articles were fine, as far as I remember.

It is a good idea to start an article as a draft in your own "user space". That simply means giving it a title like User:Shannonob90/PoolWerx. It can then be moved to PoolWerx when it is ready. Even in user space, anything which looks like blatant spam will be deleted, but a good deal more leeway is allowed than would be the case in an article, since the page is not yet part of the public face of Wikipedia. I also strongly recommend putting {{userspace draft}} at the top of the page to label the page as a draft. If you click on the red link User:Shannonob90/PoolWerx a blank page will open up for you to start editing.

If you like, when you have written your draft, you may like to list it at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. Sometimes that results in very useful advice on how to improve the draft before moving it from "user space" to "main space" as an article. Unfortunately, though, it doesn't always work: it depends purely on one or more people who check the list of requests having something useful to say. However, there is nothing to be lost by trying, and, as I said, sometimes it can be very useful.

I am also giving you a welcome message with various links that may be helpful. As you can see it has more links than the fairly basic welcome message that Jsfouche has given you at the top of this page. Don't try to read and learn the whole of all of the linked policies, guidelines etc: there are far too many of them. However, have a look and see if some of them are relevant to your current needs. Also, of course, you can always come back to others in the future as and when they become relevant to you.

I'm sorry that you have had a fairly unencouraging start to editing Wikipedia, and I do hope things work out better from now on. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Shannonob90 and Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking

if shown; this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field with your edits. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! JamesBWatson (talk) 10:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

	The Original Barnstar
	Just wanted to congratulate you on the work you did with the PoolWerx and John O'Brien (PoolWerx) articles. While they started out a bit rough, you've shown yourself to be a quick study. I appreciate your contributions and hope you decide to stick around! Again, well done! Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 09:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of John O'Brien (PoolWerx)[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
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A tag has been placed on John O'Brien (PoolWerx), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. -- φ OnePt618^Talk φ 07:19, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of PoolWerx[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on PoolWerx, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Eagles 24/7 (C) 07:25, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of John O'Brien (Australian businessman) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article John O'Brien (Australian businessman) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John O'Brien (Australian businessman) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

January 2012[edit]

Hello Shannonob90. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about following the reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quick mini-survey about your editing experience[edit]

Hi Shannonob90,

You are one of a number of users who recently received a message from SDPatrolBot. I'm curious to hear about your experience with the speedy deletion process and how you feel about the message you received. Specifically, I'd like to know...

Was the message clearly written?
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Are there any changes you'd like to see made to such messages in the future that you think might make them more effective for new users?
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If you'd prefer not to answer in a public space, you can feel free to email me your response (mpinchukwikimedia.org), and I'll be sure to keep it private unless you indicate otherwise. Your observations and suggestions are really valuable for helping improve the new editor experience on Wikipedia, so any feedback you can give would be appreciated immensely! Thank you, Maryana (WMF) (talk) 00:47, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]