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May 1

How to add References

How to add references to the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravi ank (talk • contribs) 07:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You'll find guidance at WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

want change User:Bazarsarkar to Boikart

Hi , Please help to know how we can change User:Bazarsarkar to Boikart. We have created a wiki page in below link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bazarsarkar

Thanks And Regards, S Giri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bazarsarkar (talk • contribs) 07:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username. Dismas|^(talk) 09:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

No, Dismas, you've misunderstood what Bazarsarkar wants. They have created a draft article in their user page.

Bazarsarkar, the way to do this is to move the page, but do not do this yet: your article is not ready, and will certainly get deleted if you move it to mainspace now, because it has no references to establish notability. Please read WP:YFA and WP:CORP. However, it will reduce confusion if you first move it to a user sandbox, such as User:Bazarsarkar/Boikart (red because that does not at present exist): it will still be in your user space, but separate from your user page, which is meant to contain information about you as a Wikipedia editor. One more point: if "we" means that several people are sharing an account, please be aware that this is contrary to Wikipedia policy: please create individual accounts. --ColinFine (talk) 11:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, Dismas misunderstood the request because it wasn't clear. However, if I understand what is being discussed, there may also be conflict of interest issues. Robert McClenon (talk) 11:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't clear because people new to Wikipedia often don't understand a lot of things about how Wikipedia works, in this case user pages (and promotion). Please don't bite. --ColinFine (talk) 12:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Robert McClenon suggests that you may also be involved with boikart.com, I guess because your draft article says "We". If this is so, you need to read WP:Conflict of interest as well. --ColinFine (talk) 12:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Does anyone have a copy of the book "British Hit Singles & Albums"?

I'm trying to find out what it says for the E-Zee Possee and MC Kinky articles, and possibly other related articles (Generations of Love, Everything Starts With An 'E', Get Over It (MC Kinky song) etc). Anyone have that or any other related books?--Launchballer 14:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Try Wikisource, they might have it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

They don't.--Launchballer 09:28, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

User:Derek R Bullamore will have it, so you could ask him, but he's away for a few days at the moment. This site probably has the information you're looking for. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:41, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

The information I'm looking for is paragraphs; it would appear that much of the content in E-Zee Possee which is sourced to the book is on MC Kinky (which I wrote and want to expand into at least pass-class (C) so anything which can be extracted from the book will be really useful.--Launchballer 09:55, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Liverpool 1

Can you please amend the information on the page accessed via the link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_1_(TV_series)

The creators of Liverpool 1 are Simon Burke and Colin McKeown.

Please email to notify me of the amendments

Thanks

Colin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colin McKeown (talk • contribs) 16:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done -- Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

John Rattray (surgeon and golfer)

Hi Just had this accepted. How do I add categories? Thanks Papamac (talk) 16:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Pages can be categorized by adding [[Category:***]]. For example, if you want to add an article to Category:Living people, then you would add [[Category:Living people]] to the bottom of the page. Using hotcat is much easier. It can be found at the bottom of every page. To add a category, click the "(+)"-Link at the end of the category line. This will open the input box where you can enter a new category name. --Ushau97 (talk) 16:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Check page

Check this page If Day.

Someone messed it up changing the title of the seen paragraph Franco — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.45.133.253 (talk) 18:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

That article is being subject to vandalism. It is the featured article for the day, and unfortunately featured articles sometimes attract the attention of network low-life. I have requested semi-protection, which will prevent it from being edited by non-logged-in users. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:59, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

The vandalism was coming from a school district in Florida. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Protection Request Question

However, I tried using the template that was used, and it didn't work. Is there something special that I am supposed to do to request page protection? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:59, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Did you make a request at WP:RPP.--ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but it didn't format the way the other requests were formatted. The request was then cleaned up and declined as not an unmanageable amount of vandalism for a featured article. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Cite template and others not working

When editting, i am trying to use the Cite templates and they are not appearing. My pop blocker is off and i am using windows explorer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirk3636 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Brewery Ommegang looks OK. --  Gadget850 ^talk 19:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Looks good here, I am using FireFox though. The template format it's self looks fine also. Mlpearc (powwow) 20:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Strange redirect issue

Ok, I used 'cite isbn', and then filled it out, but when I created the template I somehow dropped the check digit from the end. I moved the template once I noticed it, and my citation displays fine (the cite isbn in the article is now pointing at the new, correct location) but the 'edit' link next to it goes to a redirect at the old location, which seems really strange to me. Can someone tell or show me how to fix this? The article is Rittenhouse Elementary School, and it's the only source with an ISBN. Thank you. Revent (talk) 20:08, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Dammit, nevermind. I just found the note way down in the 'technical details' of the doc for cite isbn that was I was trying to 'fix' because I though it was a typo is a 'feature'. Sigh. Now I need to move it back. Revent (talk) 20:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Trying to correct a team's logo

I have been trying to figure out how to correct the Oakland Athletics cap logo, which is incorrect. The logo should be this one: http://www.brandprofiles.com/oakland-athletics-cap-logo-3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheesesteaks3 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

The first step would be to upload the current logo to en:wikipedia, or if possible to Wikipedia Commons. But there may be a problem with the copyright of the logo. I hope some better-informed editor can give advice. Maproom (talk) 22:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

As a general rule, any logo has to be uploaded here under a Fair use claim. Mdann52 (talk) 12:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

"As a general rule" meaning "protected by copyright". There are many logos that are not protected by copyright (eg too simple) on Commons, see commons:Category:Logos of companies and its subcats.--ukexpat (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

If I had to make a guess, I would say that their logo is likely not protected by Copyright given how simple it is. That being said, I am not a lawyer. I would think though that it would be fine on Commons. Zell Faze (talk) 16:07, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Watchlist

Not too sure where this should go, but I figure this is the best place: I've been using my watchlist a lot recently, especially after getting involved in AfD, AN/I, and such. I was wondering if there is a way to filter out the results on the watchlist to only one specific section of a page, specifically, the section in which I was engaged in AN/I - I don't really need this for AfD though since those are transcluded pages (I think). I've seen WP:HIDEPAGES, but I don't think this is exactly what I'm after. Any ideas? Thanks, Ansh666 20:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Might I add, this page is now clogging my watchlist as well Ansh666 22:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

This isn't possible, though it has been requested many times. See Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Watchlist changes, fourth sub-section, for more details and links to other discussions. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:47, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh well, thanks anyways. Hope LiquidThreads gets here eventually! Ansh666 22:15, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Requesting a Class C block be blocked for vandalism

Is it possible to request that a range of IP addresses, rather than an IP address, be blocked for vandalism? There is a considerable amount of vandalism coming from multiple IP addresses in a range assigned to a school system in Florida. (Also, am I correct that if an IP address is blocked, that does not block a registered user who is logged on from the IP address? If a teacher at the school system wants to make legitimate edits to an article from her registered account, would that be permitted?) Robert McClenon (talk) 21:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

In extreme cases, it is possible to block a range of IP addresses. There isn't a specific place to request range blocks, but you might try posting the WP:Administrator's noticeboard. A user using a blocked IP address will be blocked too unless the user requests a WP:IP block exemption. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 21:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Since vandalism is involved, WP:AIV? Ansh666 21:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

The templates at AIV are for an IP address and for a registered user. I expect that if I were to put an asterisk in the last octet of the IP address, I would get an error. Also, if it would block the entire range including for logged-on users, it sounds like a more extreme action than is needed against middle-school vandals. If it were a vandal-bot, like Willy on Wheels, that would be different. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:25, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

AIV is only for simple cases of obvious vandalism, and also range blocks usually require CheckUser attention since they may affect many other (potentially innocent) users. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 21:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, didn't know that, thanks. Ansh666 21:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

That is actually false. Most rangeblocks are soft blocks which allow accounts to edit on them. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:18, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that... thanks for the clarification. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 05:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

In that case, soft blocks are exactly what should be done when there is continuing vandalism from a school system, which will permit teachers or administrators with registered accounts to make constructive edits. Since the vandalism appears to have stopped, I won't request soft blocks unless the vandalism restarts. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Abuse

hi,dear wikipedia staff,am sorry to inform you that your website have been used by some people for political issues and for misleading people,specificly in the article about (Massoud Barzani) in the section of(Criticism and Massoud barzani's family)most of the things that are written about him are not true and not proven and were written by someone that wants to get some political advantage from this,massoud barzani is a beloved politician in kurdistan region of iraq,he was elected as president in a transparent election that was observed by baghdad government and by UN members and he got 70% of the votes,he is the son of mustafa barzani which is the spertual father of the kurdish nation,I know that your website is open to people and any one can write articles in it but I hope that you dont allow people to abuse this beautiful website for personal benifits and for distortion of the name of leaders that are loved by large number of people. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.91.195.105 (talk) 21:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

This would appear to be an issue with biographies of living persons issue if I understand correctly, especially if false information has been included. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I've created a section at WP:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. It would be helpful if you could edit the section to provide details of what is wrong with the article. You can also go to the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:06, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Watch List: Who can have one?

Is the ability to maintain a Watch List limited to confirmed users? I created a legimitate alternate account to test the notification changes, but I can't put pages on its watch list. Do I need to wait until I have replied to the confirming email, or is something else wrong here? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

All registered users can have watchlists. What happens with the alternate account? You can see a list of all watched pages at Special:EditWatchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:02, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I confirmed the alternate account, and I still can't add articles to the watch list from the page tab. I can edit the raw watch list manually, but that is a nuisance. Is there a setting that I need to set? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I wonder whether you have changed settings in your normal account and forgotten how it works by default. Do you have a tab with a star in the new account? If yes, what happens when you click it? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a tab with a star, and it does watch or unwatch the page. Thank you. However, how do I get a "History" and a "Watch" tab to appear at the top of the page? I did that to my main account a few years ago apparently, and I don't remember how exactly. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:01, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

It appears that the default skin was changed at some time in the past after I established my primary account. I solved the problem by changing the skin for the alternate account. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:39, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

a misdirection

On the Canadian Agriculture page in the table of different crops - specifically 'PULSE' crops = the PULSE is blue which is an indication that you can travel to find out more about your subject... I wanted to know more about pulse crops in Canada - but when i clicked on the blue PULSE - i was directed to the biology of Pulse (heartbeat) in the human body... perhaps someone could check that and correct it! Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.150.210.208 (talk) 23:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixed - thanks for pointing this out. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)