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May 27[edit]

New article about a scientist for the Women in Science project - by a first-time Wikipedia writer-dude[edit]

Hi,

I just wrote my very first Wikipedia article about a scientist, and did it in response to this Women in Science project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_dictionary/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_Science

My draft which I just submitted for review is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mildred_Hoge_Richards

I had a couple questions. 1. I confirmed that Mildred Hoge Richards, who my article is about, was missing a Wikipedia article in the first link. If/when my article is approved, how do I connect my article to the people doing the WiR project? 2. How do I get feedback on my article before the 5 weeks it takes for approval - I am sure I am not doing things exactly right and would appreciate slightly quicker feedback/help on my article before it gets turned down a month+ from now.

Many thanks!!

First-time-Wiki-Dude — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohiram (talkcontribs) 00:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To answer part of your question 2, you're unlikely to have to wait 5 weeks. One thing which you can do while you are waiting is to read the WP:Manual of Style. One specific problem which you can correct while you're waiting is the punctuation of references, see WP:REFPUNC. Another point is that you can't use Wikipedia as a reference, see WP:CIRCULAR, so you probably want to change that from a reference to a wikilink. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Ohiram: Presuming the draft becomes an article, the Mildred Hoge Richards link at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by dictionary/Biographical Dictionary of Women in Science will automatically change from red to blue. I also added {{WIR}} to Draft talk:Mildred Hoge Richards, so it will always be connected to the Women in Red project. I also added a Notes section for you. Happy editing! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 01:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Ohiram: Welcome and thanks. You might try to attract an interested reviewer and/or ask for suggestions by posting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. -Arch dude (talk) 01:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's an interesting article. Well done. Another little point, though: Don't call her "Mildred" (other perhaps than when describing her as a child, in the context of family life). She's "Hoge" (or, where appropriate, "Hoge Richards"). The result may seem repetitive, but such are the rules hereabouts. -- Hoary (talk) 06:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As I suspected, the review didn't take long, was accepted, and the article is now live. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you all for your inputs and help - there was a lot of editing but it made it look and read much better. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohiram (talkcontribs) 11:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mudança da foto principal[edit]

Não estou sabendo trocar a foto principal. Vocês podem me ajudar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaosant (talkcontribs) 05:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The "foto principal" of what? -- Hoary (talk) 06:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is the English language Wikipedia. If you are looking for the Portuguese Wikipedia you'll find it at pt:. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Joaosant the helpdesk for Portugese language Wikipedia appears to be at pt:Wikipédia:Tire suas dúvidas. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Website[edit]

How Can I create a new website? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musa Willie (talkcontribs) 05:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're asking about a new article within Wikipedia, please see Help:Your first article; if you're actually asking about a new website, then this requires a hosting service (among much else), and Wikipedia isn't a hosting service. -- Hoary (talk) 06:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How to find an expert willing to / already in charge of reviewing quality of articles in a specific expertise domain?[edit]

Hello I had the idea that some real-life experts had specific roles in reviewing content quality of wikipedia articles in their domain (wether it is mycology or greek tragedians etc.). Is it true, and if yes is it self-appointed? And more importantly, how can we find them and how to contact them? I am asking the question because I'd like to find someone motivated to collaborate in improving quality of wikipedia pages related to greek antiquity / classical culture (which is the basis of European and US cultures even if it seems disappear quickly). Thanks Shehekan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shehekan (talkcontribs) 09:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shehekan: you may also want to try Wikipedia:WikiProject Greece, Wikipedia:WikiProject European history, or Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. Another option you may want to try is WP:Peer review, which is a way to receive feedback from other editors about an article. An article may be nominated by any editor, and will appear on the list of all peer reviews. Other editors can comment on the review. Peer review may be used to establish an article's suitability as a good article nomination or featured article candidate. Peer review is a useful place to centralise reviews from many editors (for example, from those associated with a WikiProject). New Wikipedians are welcome. Seagull123 Φ 12:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Current time in IST[edit]

Is there any template which displays current time in my timezone: IST? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 13:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The most obvious is usually the best... try {{time}}. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 14:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Harshrathod50:—In case you are still confused ... the template {{time}} supports the addition of a timezone abbreviation. On my user page, I use this template with "EST" as the timezone. As noted at Template:Time#Supported time zones, "IST" is among the supported time zones. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 04:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mouse over images incorrect[edit]

The {{Private spaceflight}} box seems to have some problems which I can't work out. Pegasus (rocket) and Antares (rocket) for example both have the same mouse over image that is pulled from the {{Private spaceflight}} box rather than their own primary images. --High Tinker (talk) 14:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the issue might be because Pegasus (rocket) is a redirect to Northrop Grumman Pegasus, that might solve a few issues. I also did a purge of the template, which can fix these issues sometimes. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 14:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@High Tinker: There is no error, just a poor automatic choice. The image in the default hover feaure ("Page previews" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering) is chosen automatically by mw:Extension:PageImages#Image choice. It only picks images from the lead. Wide and tall images are rejected which may affect those infoboxes. {{Private spaceflight}} is displayed below the infobox but the code is in the lead so the image is eligible. We usually don't care much unless the image is directly harmful. Don't change infobox images just for the purpose of affecting this. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: ok thanks, I suppose rockets would naturally be vulnerable to the wide/tall filtering, good to know the reason --High Tinker (talk) 14:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Translating articles into English[edit]

Hi, I'm looking to translate from Japanese to English and have been to the 'articles that need translation' page and they appear to all be done already? There must be articles that need translating, but I've been round and round with little luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grammargopher (talkcontribs) 15:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Grammargopher: our main guide is at WP:Translation. It points to, among other things, a tool that is a preformatted Wikidata search: tools.wmflabs.org/not-in-the-other-language The tool (apparently) operates by looking at Wikidata article items that have an article in your source language, no article in your target language and and article in at least one other language. If you are brave, you can learn how to customize the search further, but you can also just use it and then pick articles that catch your interest -Arch dude (talk) 15:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leaf Peeper advertising link[edit]

I put a link to a website that I run to help people the world over (average 250,000 views per year) and it was probably with good reason taken out but you have the foliage network in there that serves a similar purpose. I've been on CBS Sunday Morning, the BBC and PBS, being interviewed for helping people explore New England... I would ask that this be looked at again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff Foliage (talkcontribs) 15:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Foliage Please review conflict of interest and paid editing and make the required declarations. It is a severe conflict of interest to add a link to your own website and it seems that you are trying to promote it. Every business owner feels that a link would help people. Please review policy on external links and if you truly feel that a link to your website merits inclusion, please do not add it yourself, but discuss it on the article talk page to get consensus. If you feel that other links are inappropriate, please mention that as well. 331dot (talk) 16:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

edit[edit]

what does edit source mean — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorable (talkcontribs) 17:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sorable: If you mean in general, then I'll tell you that Wikipedia editors are all volunteers. Everyone is encouraged to be bold and contribute to the encyclopedia. So it's hard to believe, but the edit source button means you can edit Wikipedia. If you mean what the "source" part of edit source means, it means you are editing the actual code, Wiki Markup Language, as opposed to using the Visual Editor, which just looks like you're editing the actual article without the code. Hillelfrei talk 17:10, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Default language of not-logged in user[edit]

Hi,

I don’t have an account with Wikipedia nor do I need one. However, for some reason, each time I visit Wikipedia it defaults to German on my iPad (Safari). I can’t seem to change this odd behaviour anywhere. All my settings on my iPad are for UK English. Changing the article to English doesn’t make a difference for when I visit it next time.

So, how do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:147C:7300:2C0B:982B:1E9:2CED (talk) 18:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is the URL www.en.(m).wikipedia.org or www.de.(m).wikipedia.org? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 19:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And where do you start? If it's at https://www.wikipedia.org then select "EN" at the right of the search box before starting a search, or click "English" in the language list at top and search from the page you get to. Once you reach any page at de.(m).wikipedia.org, you are at the German Wikipedia and there is no automatic language selection. en.(m).wikipedia.org is the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The problem occurs when I enter something in the address box in the browser. When a Wikipedia entry pops up and I select it, it will go to the German language version. Quite annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:147C:7300:19A9:2252:CD75:5B0 (talk) 23:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC) Edit to say that the pop up is in English but the link takes me to the German version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:147C:7300:19A9:2252:CD75:5B0 (talk) 23:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Changing a picture[edit]

Resolved
 – Brianjd (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! How can I permanently change the photo for my boss's Wiki page? In the past he changed it only to have it replaced by the older picture. He is a prominent figure and we'd like to have a photo of our choice as the permanent photo on his page.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theclubfive (talkcontribs) 20:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • The photo you use would have to be freely licensed. I'm guessing that in past the one used was found published on the Internet somewhere (web site) and is thus copyrighted. After that, you need to get consensus on the talk page of the article to do that, especially since you have a Conflict of Interest. CrowCaw 20:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Theclubfive, you cannot "permanently" do anything to a Wikipedia article: nobody owns or controls a Wikipedia article, least of all people closely connected to the subject. The article belongs to Wikipedia, and its contents are determined by a consensus of Wikipedia editors. If your boss or anybody closely associated with him wishes Wikipedia's article about him to be changed, they should not edit it, but should make an edit request at the article's talk page. In addition, they should declare their conflict of interest in the article, and if they are in any way paid in connection with editing (as you presumably are) they must make a formal declaration of this fact: see paid editing. --ColinFine (talk) 21:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Theclubfive: summarizing the above advice: first, take a picture of your boss yourself. that way, you own the copyright. (If another photographer took a picture you wish to use, then have that photographer perform the next step). Then, upload that picture to Wikimedia Commons, giving it a CC-BY-SA license. Then, on you own user page here, declare your paid status. Finally, on the talk page of the article, make a request that your new picture be used in place of the existing picture. If your picture is clearly superior, your request will be honored. If the choice is not clear, this will lead to a discussion in which you can participate as to why the new picture should be used. -Arch dude (talk) 01:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is all very helpful, thank you. I will be sure to follow these steps and follow proper procedure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theclubfive (talkcontribs) 16:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Whatever Theclubfive did, it didn’t end well: they are now indefinitely blocked. Brianjd (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, February 2020[edit]

There is something wrong with List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, February 2020. Please {{ping}} me if you know what it is. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jax 0677, if you're referring to the table being under the wrong section, I fixed it. It seems like the stray </onlyinclude> was the issue. If anyone can corroborate this it would be much appreciated. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, it had been moved to the right section by the OP's edit just before your change. The error was when the table code ended with |- instead of |}. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

possible wikipedia editing scam[edit]

Hello,

I received an email today from address Jonathan-at-wikiexpertsinc.com claiming he was a Wikipedia editor who caught me submitting an article about myself ("Meredith Ringel Morris") and said that he rejected the articles as being against the rules for self-authoring, but then offering the paid services of his own company "WikiExperts" to write such an article. First, I most definitely did not submit the article in question. Second, this seems like some sort of illegitimate scam where Wikipedia Editors are rejecting legitimate articles so that they can then charge people money to write those same articles. Is someone looking into this issue?

Thank you, Merrie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.35.79.101 (talk) 22:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the article is Draft:Meredith Ringel Morris and it seems to have been (correctly) rejected because it does not show that the subject has been covered in depth by multiple independent sources. It is also tagged "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject", possibly because the editing account has only contributed to that article and uploaded a photograph as their own work. I suggest that the scam is that "WikiExperts" find articles that have just been rejected and send the subjects an automated email offering their services. That way "WikiExperts" save time and avoid the risk of being caught rejecting legitimate articles. TSventon (talk) 00:36, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone on Earth can edit Wikipedia, 50.35.79.101. "Jonathan-at-wikiexpertsinc.com" may or may not have a Wikipedia account, and may just be monitoring article submissions looking for rejected articles about living people. The "expert" uses the article rejection as a hook to lure in people to exploit, based on "his" presumed "powers" to place articles in Wikipedia. No editor has such powers, and we are all volunteers. Their goal is to receive cash in advance for services never rendered. Meanwhile, Draft:Meredith Ringel Morris may ultimately get accepted,if its creator, Wheatara or other editors can get it into shape. --Quisqualis (talk) 08:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(i) wikiexpertsinc dot com appears to have trouble writing English prose; I wonder how clumsy the mail from "Jonathan" was. (ii) One problem with Draft:Meredith Ringel Morris is that the majority of its many references don't specify the authors, giving rise to the suspicion that they're written or cowritten by MRM herself. However an article can't be based on what the biographee says about herself. (ii) If you are MRM, please stop; read Wikipedia:Autobiography. -- Hoary (talk) 12:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This may be what is described at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning. That page asks you to forward any 'scam' emails you received to arbcom-en@wikimedia.org. Please see that page for more information. Seagull123 Φ 19:34, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]