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November 15

Is it possible to make global replacement changes?

Some years ago I edited a number of articles about the American Civil Rights Movement. Many of the citations and references I entered at that time were to the Civil Rights Movement Veterans website (https://www.crmvet.org). That website has now changed its name to "Civil Rights Movement Archive," though the URL remains unchanged. It will be very tedious and time-consuming for me to track down all my citations to manually change "Veterans" to "Archive." Is there anyway to do that globally across all of Wikipedia? Or, if not across all of Wikipedia, at least globally on each individual page?

Brucehartford (talk) 01:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Brucehartford: If there are a lot of such links, you can make a request at WP:BOTREQ to see if a bot can do it. Otherwise, WP:AWB might be able to make the task less of a chore. RudolfRed (talk) 01:48, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Am I allowed to move Draft:EmailSanta.com into article space?

Draft:EmailSanta.com I did not write that article draft, but I think it is ready for the article space. Am I allowed to move it there and remove the AfC box? (I know I am able to, because I am extended confirmed.) Thanks! Félix An (talk) 04:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Félix An: You may, if you think it is ready. I looked at the article history and see you have been reverted a few times on your recent edits to this draft. Instead of moving the draft, I recommend starting a discussion on the draft's talk page so you and the other editors can get consensus on how to improve it. RudolfRed (talk) 05:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Félix An (talk) 05:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Some creep calling themselves Fuzheado reverted my edit. I don't have time for this, please sort this out.

I added this documentarian's own box to her own page, and updated the website link with an archived version since it expired. I'm not going to edit war with this bot. Thank you. I was just fixing a page I was reading. --184.20.10.253 (talk) 06:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Reverted edits: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexandra_Pelosi&type=revision&diff=988762731&oldid=986571847

Message, quoted below: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:184.20.10.253&oldid=988767823

Hello, I'm Fuzheado. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Alexandra Pelosi—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 03:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

Hi, the diff link you provided was invalid, so I replaced it with a current revision link of your talk page. There is no diff link for your talk page, for reasons stated here. Colathewikian (talk) 07:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

The probbably best solution would be to ask Fuzheado. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

FWIW, the official website is actually linked at her wikidata entry, which is probably a better location to archive the site. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:16, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@184.20.10.253: Apologies, as I had seen the Nancy->Alexandra diff as vandalism because of how it was displayed in the interface, but the string of three edits you made were good edits. I have restored the changes and thanks for changing it in Wikidata. I'd recommend you register for an account and edit more, as doing edits under a registered username is more conducive to patrolling for valid vs. invalid edits. Good luck. -- Fuzheado | Talk 12:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

List of films

Hello all, I have a question about the list of films, I was checking these: List of Argentine films of 1993, List of Romanian films of 1993, List of Dutch films of the 2000s and List of American films of 2020 and noticed that it's not very consistent with each other. Some lists only cover one year, others a whole decade. And the presentation and options in the table vary too. What's the guidelines for these lists? I thought films that aren't on Wikipedia shouldn't be added in these lists? Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 11:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Aquatic Ambiance. Consistency over many articles is something which is often lacking in Wikipedia, because of the nature of the project: everybody is a volunteer and works on what they choose. Only if somebody, or some group of people, puts effort into consistency will it happen. The most likely place to find people who are working for consistency in an area is at an appropriate WikiProject, here WikiProject Film. --ColinFine (talk) 11:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

(ec) Aquatic Ambiance, good question. If you don't get any good answers here, you could try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film. It's possible that some of these lists don't get a lot of attention, and occasional editors just add what they think they should, while for example List of American films of 2020 has a lot of pageviews [1]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Aquatic Ambiance, Wikipedia has some guidance on your questions

• WP:TOOBIG says that articles which are "> 60 kB Probably should be divided". The length of a list of US films released in one year is too great to be merged into a decade, while the Dutch lists can be merged into a decade. (The Argentine, Romanian and Dutch articles are linked to lists in es, ro and nl wikis, which may also be a reason for choosing between year and decade lists.)
• WP:LISTN says "Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable, although editors may, at their discretion, choose to limit large lists by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles." TSventon (talk) 23:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine, Gråbergs Gråa Sång and TSventon. I guess there's a lot more to this than I thought! I've become a bit more knowledgeable. Thanks! Aquatic Ambiance (talk) 10:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Special:BookSources search message code

Hello, where is the Special:BookSources search results message code? I'm admnistrator on It wiki. I wish to change it in my wiki. Thanks a lot. Regards--Pierpao (talk) 14:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Pierpao. Probably in System messages. --ColinFine (talk) 15:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Mark juncaj

I wrote a small bio on myself and was wondering how I did? I checked football player Tom Brady’s for some type of background in hopes to learn how to write mine.

Also, I enjoy writing very much! How can I join Wikipedia as a board member or where can I start as an editor or some type of starting role?

Having trouble Understanding administrative response.

Will my page Mark Juncaj be published in Wikipedia?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Albo2121 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your interest, Mark! All Wikipedia articles are written by volunteers like you. You are welcome to create an account and start editing right away. However, due to the conflict of interest, writing an autobiography (one about yourself) is strongly discouraged. Best of luck! Félix An (talk) 16:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Albo2121 - there are no sources and no indication that the subject is notabile. Please see WP:GNG  Courtesy link: user:Albo2121 (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:19, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft has been deleted. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Four tides signing

Timtempleton sis gjon Juncaj page workout? Where are those located on your keypad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albo2121 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Uppercase just left of the 1/! key. - Samf4u (talk) 17:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Albo2121: That's true of US keyboards and some others; for other keyboard layouts see the chart at Tilde#Keyboards. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:36, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Another option is to use the Edit toolbar at the top of the edit box, the icon looks like ; or use the "wiki markup insert" tool beneath the text input in the edit box. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 17:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

You guys keep deleting my drafts what am I doing wrong please?

@Albo2121: Are you Gjon or Mark Juncaj? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:55, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

I’m Mark my friend

Actor Justin Smith

I just finished reading article on Justin Smith, who starred with Elle Fanning, in "All the Bright Places." In your background on him you state "he came out queer."

I must say that in today's world, using 'queer' is a most objectionable word. It still denotes a bad connotation regarding a person's life choice, which in this case should use either the word 'gay' or homosexual. Please update Mr. Smith's background profile; and even if he did say 'queer', I am most certain in today's world, he would not use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.31.37 (talk) 18:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Justice_Smith. That statement has sources backing it up, so it seems that the person self-identifies as Queer, which is up to them and is not necessarily perjorative now. Wikipedia reports what comes from reliable sources. RudolfRed (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Neither of the articles we have on actors named Justin Smith use the word "queer" in it. The American one hasn't been edited since 2019 (which is a shame because the article desperately needs sources) and the Australian one hasn't been edited for a month. You're thinking Justice Smith, and that claim is cited to two sources. In addition, "queer" is an umbrella term for LGBTQ+ identity. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 18:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

The "Q" in "LGBTQ+" stands for "queer", and no longer has the pejorative meaning it had a couple decades ago. It's a subset of (not a synonym for) LGBTQ+, as I understand it. See the queer article for more. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to also point out that Wikipedia is not censored. If the sources mention him referring to himself as such, it can be included into the article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Gjon juncaj

Was gjon Juncaj page written ok? How long does it take to show up on Wikipedia and search engines?

Thank you! Btw am using iPhone 12

Never. We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident, and userpages are NOINDEXed. You seem to have mistaken Wikipedia for social media or a who's-who. We are an encyclopaedia, and especially for articles about living people sources are a requirement. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 18:45, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

I did not hear back if gjons page was published and when it will appear on search engine as gjon juncaj — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albo2121 (talk • contribs) 15 November 2020 19:39 (UTC)

@Albo2121: Please see the response above. The page will not be published. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a form of social media where indviduals can write about themselves. Multiple links have been left at your talk page; please study them carefully before attempting any further edits. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Albo2121: In addition, your user page exists for you to tell the community a little about yourself and how you intend to contribute to the project. It should not contain anything resembling artiocle-like content. If you want to create a draft article, go via WP:WIZ or WP:AFC and create a draft which can be submitted for review. Note that autobiographies are discouraged and may not be a good idea. Properly sourced articles about notable topics written by persons without a connection to the topic are welcomed. Eagleash (talk) 20:00, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

This wasn’t a page about me. It’s my cousin. He didn’t even ask for it but he is an American hero and I wrote it short and unbiased. Tell me what I did wrong because when I look at other peoples pages, I simply mimicked what they had.

I’m trying to take part anyway I can. I thought I wrote from an unbiased place though he’s my cousin. I just said who he is and what he does.

Instead of ripping me can u please help me. There are millions of people part of Wikipedia and I just want to be part of it.

Thank u

@Albo2121: Try reading what's been said above instead of accusing us of ripping you. Nobody is going to approve a draft about a living person that has no sources what-so-ever. We don't have articles based on the moral fortitude of the subject; it might surprise you to learn we have articles on Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, John Wayne Gacy, and Stephenie Meyer. We have articles based on how much a subject and their deeds has been discussed in news and scholarly sources. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 21:37, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Albo2121. Several people have tried to explain what you are doing wrong. I will put it a bit differently. Wikipedia is not interested in what you know, or what I know, or what any random person on the internet knows. Ever. It is only interested in information which has been published by somebody with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking. Trying to create an article without finding such sources first is like building a house without bothering about foundations, or even checking if the house is on rock or sand. Furthermore, writing an article as the first or nearly the first thing you do in editing Wikipedia is like going to one French lesson and then trying to do a podcast in French. Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anybody can edit, but that doesn't mean that it is easy to edit. You will add far far far more value to Wikipedia by choosing some of our six million existing articles that need improvement and working on them than by trying to create a new article when you haven't learnt the skills or how Wikipedia works. Please see YFA. --ColinFine (talk) 21:40, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank u your information was helpful. The facts on this are on the internet with story after story about both.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Albo2121 (talk • contribs)

Article trouble

Hi, one of the article is continously being spammed by someone. How to avoid this?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunter1471 (talk • contribs)

I added a header to this question. Same question at Tea House and I posted a reply there. RudolfRed (talk) 21:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)