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January 29

Archiving

Do you know why this section is NOT archiving properly? --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, it's being told not to buy the comment <!-- [[User:DoNotArchiveUntil]] 17:31, 26 June 2023 (UTC) -->. If you remove it it will archive. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:00, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Dante Leon Disambiguation Page

I am planning to turn Dante Leon into a Disambiguation Page. I will be adding an article about another Dante Leon who is a martial artist.

What is the process to do this?

-04:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC) Imcdc Contact 04:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@Imcdc: First, create your new article Dante Leon (martial artist) and let it sit awhile to make sure it will not be contested and deleted. Then, move the existing Dante Leon to Dante Leon (wrestler). This move will leave a redirect in place at the old name. Now you can edit that redirect to turn it into a disambiguation page. Use another disambiguation page about a human name as a worked example (e.g. John Palmer), including the {{hndis}} template at the end. finally, create a redirect named Dante Leon (disambiguation) to point to Dante Leon. -Arch dude (talk) 05:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@Imcdc: Or, read Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -Arch dude (talk) 05:38, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Death notice (Floyd Sneed)

Not really a question: You may want to post (or have someone post) about the death of Floyd Sneed, the drummer for Three Dog Night. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=731482284998977&set=a.268617304618813 108.78.29.23 (talk) 06:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Please direct this comment to Talk:Floyd Sneed. 331dot (talk) 07:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Floyd Sneed is still showing as alive, but a Facebook post isn't a reliable source for saying that he has died. He may well have died but there needs to be better sourcing. I couldn't find any news stories at the moment, but the Facebook page is only two hours old.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Another ghit here, but probably not a Reliable source, as it's only quoting 'the Group's media page.' {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.221.194.253 (talk) 14:38, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Creating a list of articles based on content

I would like to get a list of all Wikipedia articles that are not about people or places, is this possible, and if so, what would be the best way to go about this? Jordanisanerd (talk) 07:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Jordanisanerd Such a list would be in the millions and difficult to manage- maybe your best bet is starting with Category:Main topic classifications. 331dot (talk) 08:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Contents. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@Jordanisanerd: Each Wikipedia article is associated with an object in the database of our sister project Wikidata. These objects are in turn linked to (related to) other objects: its a relational database. The database can be queried to generate reports such as the one you want. Constructing a database query at first appears to be intimidating, but in fact you can learn to do it quite quickly. Start at d:Wikidata:Main page or maybe at d:Wikidata:Data access. The huge advantage of this is your ability to refine your query to zero in on the subset that you really want.-Arch dude (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Request for a deleted article

The article is [[The Abolitionist Wedding of Theodore Weld and Angelina Grimké]]. I wrote it. It was deleted 2-3 years ago. I want to see if I can salvage something of it. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 11:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

The deletion discussion was at WP:Articles for deletion/The abolitionist Weld–Grimké wedding. The outcome was "redirect", so the previous version is still there in the history of the redirect The abolitionist Weld–Grimké wedding. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_abolitionist_Weld%E2%80%93Grimk%C3%A9_wedding&oldid=1032143107 ColinFine (talk) 12:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Consult sources of Chinese metro population data

hi，I can't the sources of Chinese metro population data for example，the metro population of Shenzhen is 23,300,000，but I can't find the exact source，can u give me the reason?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhen JeanLee23 (talk) 11:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, JeanLee23. That figure of 23,300,000 is cited to here, but that does not seem to confirm the data. I thought perhaps that somebody had altered the figure since it was first inserted, without updating the reference; but that does not seem to be the case. Editor Batternut appears to have added the figure and the reference in this edit in 2017. Batternut seems to be still active, and I've pinged them here, so maybe they'll come and explain where the figure came from.

Generally, the talk page of the article is a better place to ask about specifics in an article. ColinFine (talk) 12:36, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

I was able to verify. On the 39th page of the linked PDF is a table with populations of cities including Shenzhen as of 2010. Shenzhen's 'total population' is 23.3 million, and its 'urban population' is 21.7 million. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 14:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

You're quite right. I didn't notice that the two columns in the table were the FUAs in one column and the cities in the other, so I'd only noticed Shenzhen in the second column. Thanks ColinFine (talk) 15:10, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply.But data for other cities confused me.

For example, the metro population of Beijing is 22,366,547, but Beijing‘s 'total population' from PDF is 24.9 million.

Are the two sources of data different? JeanLee23 (talk) 02:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Potential disruptive editing on Ukraine article

An entry made about events 26 Jan has been re-written entirely. The editor has deleted much important information (the context of this strike for example), the English is unacceptable and the terms now used indicate not that events happened, but that officials in Ukraine say that events happened. I've asked on the talk page for the deleted material to be reverted, the editor has returned but not reverted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022–2023_Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure#2023 It looks as if the protection on this page may have changed. Can someone please see if they agree with me that this is not acceptable editing and help with the way forward. Thanks. Thelisteninghand (talk) 14:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC) Looking further at the article it appears there has been a great deal of trimming going on, and a lot of unacceptable English throughout. Upsetting because I have spent hours correcting bad English only to see it mangled again. Thelisteninghand (talk) 15:37, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia log me out every time I go to the Commons or anywhere else?

This happens even though I have checked to keep me logged in for a year. My password is hard, and this is a bother not worth doing most of the time. Krok6kola (talk) 15:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

You should be centrally logged in across Wikimedia projects. I don't know why this isn't working. In general, you cannot assume that logging in on a single Wikimedia project automatically logs you in to the others. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 16:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Check the checkbox saying Keep me logged in when logging in to the relevant project, this should help. -- StarryNightSky11 ☎ 02:47, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Simplifying Community Portal

I feel like the community portal page is very, very complicated. I would like to try to redesign it and maybe share it and see if people think it’s an improvement on Wikipedia. Maybe someone knows like, if you can fork wikipedias code, modify it, submit as a pull request, and see if people think it’s an improvement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.123.160.214 (talk) 15:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Community portal is a wiki page. You can copy its contents into a sandbox. This is much easier it you first create an account, so the sandbox can be a sub-page of your user page. Please remove the categories in your copy: you can put them back if your page ever becomes the official page. However: Wikipedia is a collaborative project. You should almost certainly start by opening a discussion on the page's talk page at Wikipedia talk:Community portal. Note that although the page is a Wiki page, it uses a great deal of raw HTML, so you will need to use both unless you truly intend to start over from scratch. -Arch dude (talk) 16:19, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

you would also need to ask at Village Pump, and also post a notice at the talk page for the community portal. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Can't find archive link

In this diff, a talk page's archive link was changed after the talk page and its article were moved. Where is the link to the archive? I can't find one anywhere, either in that version of the page or the current version. All I see are wikiproject links, pageviews, section sizes, and general policy links that aren't particularly related to this page, such as Seek dispute resolution if needed. 192.180.91.15 (talk) 16:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

PS, I've found Talk:List of school shootings in the United States (2000–present)/Archive 2 (simply by guessing), but Talk:List of school shootings in the United States (2000–present)/Archive and Talk:List of school shootings in the United States (2000–present)/Archive 1 don't exist. Why would there be a 2 without a 1: just a mistake, or is there a good reason? 192.180.91.15 (talk) 16:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes I found that archive 2 link by using "What links here" on the current Talk Page. It would seem that something has gone wrong, so I'm alerting Aidan9382, who made the edit you linked, in the hope they can help. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:31, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

It's been fixed by PrimeHunter..... thanks to him and to you, IP editor for pointing it out. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

I fixed it by moving the old archives. counter = 2 in archiving instructions means that future archiving will be made to archive 2 until it's full and then 3. The talk page template making archive links first looks for archive 1 and stops if it's not found. Before the fix there was no archive 1 at the current title. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:39, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

My apologies there - when I was fixing these quite a bit back, I was unaware of the previous pages moving, and so didn't really apply fixes properly. I've been doing them properly recently, but I haven't found the time to go back through my contribs and fix my old mistakes among all the others. Sorry! Aidan9382 _(talk) 17:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Deleting a file

I have a file that I published and I am wondering how to delete it. Can you please help Dean Symonds (talk) 16:27, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

If you recently uploaded it, and it's unused, tag it with {{db-g7}} and an administrator will delete it. 192.180.91.15 (talk) 16:28, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Dean. I see that you nominated the file for deletion on Commons, so that should disappear shortly.

I see you are taking the right steps to protect yourself, but if you haven't already read advice for younger editors, I advise you to do so. ColinFine (talk) 19:19, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

The Gemini kid (talk) 21:31, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Hide footnote markers?

Is there an option to toggle footnote markers on Wikipedia articles? WongSeo (talk to me!) 22:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@WongSeo If there were, I think it would be an option in your preferences but I can't find one. The best I can think of is described at User:TheDJ/Print options, which will enable you to do various things including removing these markers (and even the references themselves) when printing an article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for. WongSeo (talk to me!) 02:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Donations

I can't find how to make a donation to Wikipedia. Kearney1429 (talk) 22:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@Kearney1429: Please see WP:DONATE to donate to the Wikimedia foundation. Each Wikipedia is a project of the foundation. They are the ones who pay for the servers and keep them running. -Arch dude (talk) 22:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Rauswurf

Wollte heute Abend schauen, was so geschrieben wurde , finde weder mi ch wieder in Wiki no ch meinen Lotsen Perrak.

Mag er/ sie mich nicxht mehr? bin ich rausgeworfen und warum? MaikenMaus (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. If you are having difficulties on the German Wikipedia, we cannot help you here. Cullen328 (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

@MaikenMaus: Link to the German Help Desk: de:Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia RudolfRed (talk) 23:30, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Danke. MaikenMaus (talk) 10:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)