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tr2n
no worries. We all are excited over the proof-of-concept video shown at Comic-Con, but since there there has been zero announcements over the film's production status. Once we have official confirmation from Disney that the film will be made, then we can go hog-wild with articles, etc. But until then, remember that all information must be sourced back to factual support; otherwise any yabo with a blog could be listed as "someone said that TR3N is in production by Pixar and stars Hoagie Carmichael" and it would be taken as fact. Be patient, if it's going to happen, it will. SpikeJones (talk) 19:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Spelling
Well, the "z" was in there before you corrected the missing "i", so you didn't actually introduce an error where there wasn't one before. And "z" would be "conzidered" correct in the US, but since it's a UK registered ship I thought the British spelling would be more appropriate. There are plenty more US spellings in the article if you wanted to go on a binge. Rees11 (talk) 15:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Your signature
The closing bold code ''' in your signature is inside a wikilink while the start was outside. This effectively causes the closing ''' to be ignored so the rest of the signature including time stamp becomes bold. Please fix the signature so it doesn't end with an open bold, for example by changing
Thanks for letting me know, PrimeHunter! I have amended it as per your advice! It's amazing how easy it is to not notice something like that PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know, I don't think you should delete a subpage and copy and paste it to another, a full revision history maybe be required. Next time, click the move tab and type in the desired new name, saves time too! ---Scarce||||You shouldn't have buried me,I'm not dead--- 08:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
your help desk question
Just so you know it's largely been resolved by the community that you only need to inform the person about cc-by-sa 3.0, although it is multi-licenced. That is what OTRS volunteers have been advised and it came from within the Foundation. I have dealt with politicians here in Australia and I'm quite happy with how much easier CC is to explain to them than what we had - the notion of free content is hard enough without pages of legal gobbledygook. Hope this makes things easier from your point of view :) Orderinchaos 18:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Economy table
Thanks for your help with the table. It seems to be the </TR> closing tags that fixed the problem (I did some more experimenting in the sandbox). I seem to recall reading somewhere that a new line automatically closes a <TD> element, so the absence of </TD> tags in this case was probably ok. Indeed, in the sandbox, I took them out and the table was still alright. When I took the </TR>'s out, however, the old problem recurred, although in a different place! I'm still curious as to why the table worked as HTML directly in my browser, but not as wiki markup. Also, if the </TR>'s are necessary, why did the table work at all without them? These are rather technical questions, I don't expect you to beat your brains answering them, I'm just musing. -- Ong saluri (talk) 01:30, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, thank you for your recent edits to bazedoxifene. I do have one question—the Merck Index notes the CAS number of bazedoxifene as 198481-32-2 (if you don't have access, just do a quick Google search of "CAS 198481-32-2" or check page 3 of this document). Why did you remove it? Best wishes, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I removed it because when I went to CAS using the link, it was showing as not existing. However having found it on a couple of the CAS searching sites, I'll put it back in. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 02:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for clearing that up. Best wishes and happy editing! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
wow.. thanx!!!
thanx alot phantom steve you are a great help!! but eish... ive been reading for hours now, it feels like it will take forever to understand wikipedia!The.blurrz (talk) 18:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
cool beanz..
i'll keep you posted with my questions(there are many)THANX!!!The.blurrz (talk) 18:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Sotomayor talk page
thanks for your reply to what I'd posted on the Sotomayor talk page. I had understood a talk page to be just that: a place to discuss the article. Someone had deleted my words within minutes of my posting. Deleting is assuredly not discussing. I think I will go ahead and seek sources, as you suggest. Some things, such as whether language in the article is biased, cannot be sourced. I suppose I should create an account for this as well. It should be an interesting experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.242.155 (talk) 20:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I made the name of the series be in italics and I added [sic] to a reviewer's spelling mistake. I think that is all that I needed to do. Iowateen (talk) 20:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I looked in the manual of style and I don't see how the article looks wrong. I think that it might just be based on your opinion. Iowateen (talk) 21:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
A bit of rewriting? You removed 99% of what I typed. Iowateen (talk) 22:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I started combining both of our work into the article. Iowateen (talk) 22:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
help needed!
Hi! Thank you for your help. I am new at Wikipedia and I´m experiencing some newcomers frustration! For example, I´m still not sure how to add an infobox or a picture to the article (I would very much like to do so). I own rights regarding the copyrights of both the text and the photograph I intend to upload.
Regarding the citations you mentioned, doesn´t the "press releases" section work? It has links to official sites where Carlos Lascano´s work has been featured, or pages where he has been interviewed.
(Why is my article now starting with a semicolon?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NindëFaelivrin (talk • contribs) 23:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I would very much appreciate your help in achieving a good first article.
Thank you so much for your help! Let me know how I can provide you with the picture, or if I can later add it to the infobox —Preceding unsigned comment added by NindëFaelivrin (talk • contribs) 23:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello Phantomsteve, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I have changed a page you tagged (Jackobillia) from being tagged for speedy deletion to being tagged for proposed deletion. The speedy deletion criteria are very narrow to protect the encyclopedia, and do not fit the page in question. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Thanks again! - Jarry1250[ humorous – discuss ] 15:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Firstly, the article will get deleted, t'is a certainty. In this case though, A3 doesn't apply; for example, "Worldwide the jackobillia is valued at about $10 billion" is some substantive content (regardless of the quality of it!). Thusly the article falls through the cracks of CSD and must be PRODed. Hope that Bold texthelps, - Jarry1250[ humorous – discuss ] 15:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Good question. I would be inclined, if removing the material is not a priority (not a copyvio or anything), to leave it to go when the article does. That being said, 30 seconds tidying would be of loss to no-one - just don't waste time on it would be my advice, I guess. - Jarry1250[ humorous – discuss ] 16:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Bold text
FYI, "Other artists (such as Elvis Presley, The Beatles, etc) do not have a page about memorabilia..." is not a good line of attack, per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. - Jarry1250[ humorous – discuss ] 16:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Very nice work cleaning this up -- table code is one of the many things that I need to figure out but you nailed it. Just one suggestion - the subheadings look a little out of place squashed up on the left as table cells. May look better as a regular level 3 heading. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 00:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Article editing
Hi! Thank you so much for taking the time to check my article, and I´m so so sorry for changing it. I was trying to correct some things that turned out mispelled (like muertos comune´s.... it is "muertos comunes", or "inspiration"), and accidentally erased the whole thing. I am so sorry.
I understand what you mean about being unable to verify the awards. Most of the festivals don´t have websites, and some of the ones that do, don´t keep always track of past years.
However, "Marionettes" Worldfest award, for example, is on the Worldfest website, in the archive of past years (1998).
Thank you so much for helping me with the article, and sorry for the inconveniences caused. There´s no such thing as a "Happy editing" for Wikipedia newcomers!
hi could you help me how to change the title of an article that I already submitted?
Thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Youaregood (talk • contribs) 17:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Kim
SD's been declined. Can't really see many people looking him up, anyway..... Ta for your message, but I ain't no expert in the more arcane procedures! If they really want to change the name, they just need to Move it to the new title. Peridon (talk) 21:58, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
deleting wiki pages
It was an article on Merchant Equity Partners, and it was completely accurate. it was deleted by Nja 247. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsyeruncle33 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree with the award, I saw the comment and thought it was a nice thing to do, but it didn't occur to me to award a barnstar (I feel I'm too new to be doing that yet, but will). --SPhilbrickT 21:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you! But I didn´t do it all by myself... it was almost as frustrating as writing the article! But let´s say that I got "a little help from my friends."
Thank you so much for all your help and support... I´ll let you know if I ever dare to write another article!
NindëFaelivrin (talk) 15:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
oh wow!
hi, I just noticed the barnstar you added to my page. Thanks so much!!!!! Agradmantalk/contribs 17:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: Jackobillia.
Hi Steve;
Would be good to have more time to develop the article, but failing that parharps we can merge it into "michael Jackson , as the subject is of great interest to millions both michael jackson's fans worldwide as well to many collectors of jackobillia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jomoal99 (talk • contribs) 11:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Message from Palengkero
g'day Phantomsteve,
hope all is well with you. yes, i am responding regarding your message sir. first let me explain. as soon as i saw your message, i went berserk hahaha. so i went again to your help desk and mentioned my angst and pangs there. if you go to Help Desk, you can read my message there. someone told me that anyone can edit my work so i deleted your message in my article. am so sorry, very sorry i misunderstood everything until i clicked your userpage.
well, let me start. dya know that my article had been edited by a couple of editors in the past since i submitted my artcle to wikipedia. i followed all their messages. Originally, "the Transformation" was long but some editor removed them and footnoted it with (Number 1). i was saddened at the time but i respected that editor because he or she wanted it that way. My article had been edited for a couple of times and replied to all the messages there until they got what they want. my article has never been edited for quite sometime until "ukexpat" help me kindly in inserting the image or logo of my alma mater. i uploaded some images a couple of months ago and forgot all about it. i thought by uploading photos, they go automatically to my artcile but at the time i didnt know about your logo templates. it was ukexpat who inserted that logo for me. it's so nice of him. meantime, the other day i read in the internet news from the philippines that my notable alumnus by the name of Nelson Nario was moved from his post in the Isabela Province to Mindanao in the philippines. hence, i edited his update in a short sentence based from what i had read to update also my article with Wikipedia.
i have never entered anything in the history of my alma mater because i thought all had been resolved from the couple of editors that edited my work in the past. As ya know, i am too frightened to touch the history because it had been edited a couple of times in respect to the editors of wikipideia who helped me and were very helpful. what you have read there were purely edited by your fellow editors. even the references were fixed by your editors because i could not access the "reference page" and asked them for help in your Help Desk.
i dont live in the philippines anymore for some three decades now and everything that was written in my article are referenced and based on current information. it was purely research and from my recent contact with fellow alumni who are also based overseas. i am just also helping my alma mater lift its standard a bit. as you know, i went to a "public market" high school and i feel the need to share something to my poor ole school (tears). i was a pioneer student of the school and i was one of the creator of the school publication there. modesty aside, i am also the first managing editor of the school.
I can be contacted through ************ to discuss further the issues.
Thank for visiting my artcle and my personal regards to you.
Phantomsteve, i read your article overnight titled Thornton Heath, a place in Croydon where you live. is that your contribution? good article. so, you are an educator. i reckoned you should come and teach here (where i live now). Good writers and educators like you are in demand here and they are well-paid too. dya know that we have a place here called Croydon? Palengkero (talk) 00:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
PDF
Hi Steve. I've responded at my talk page. Could you take another look at it? Thanks a lot, --The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Note that the last request you handled, #33676, should not have been denied as too similar, but should have been created by someone with the account creator right. Please read the instructions for more info, and keep that in mind when handling requests in the future. If you have any questions, feel free to join us on IRC: #wikipedia-en-accounts. Prodegotalk 01:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure you will! Feel free to join us on IRC if you wish, we would love to have you there. Otherwise, cheers! Prodegotalk 01:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello Phantomsteve
I read your message and thanks. 15 years of teaching? amazing! i think i have to salute you for that. you are most welcome here if you consider returning to the most noble profession. Your description of Thornton Heath in your Croydon there is quite similar to our Croydon here, realtywise our Croydon is "upclass" pretty much unaffordable (for people like me) because it is so close to the CBD and amenities (and rich in history too). i used to live in a suburb beside Croydon where we rented a flat some years ago. anyhow, thanks for welcoming me to editing. i still have to explore the technical guidelines on how to edit wikipedia though. i look forward to reading more of your future contributions here. Palengkero (talk) 07:22, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Invisible Barnstar
For your tireless work in answering questions, great and small, on the Help desk. — QuantumEleven 12:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Ismael Mathay Sr. High School article
I'll probably be able to take a look later, but should I not then I'm not going to be contactable again until Tuesday at least. Oh, and I think you accidentally typed the wrong username for the "creator" of the article in your message. If so, you might like to go back and change that before anyone notices. Cheers, - Jarry1250[ In the UK? Sign the petition! ] 12:31, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: Jackobilia
Hi, steve in disputing the fact that there is only one hit for Jackobilia on google there is actually about 776 hits to
jackobilia cheers
Jomoal99 (talk) 14:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
List of Easy COmpany Veterans
Hi Steve, thank you for answering all of my questions and being kind. If I attempt to nomiinate my article once, and fails, am I eligible for a second try, or one and thats it, succeed or fail? Signed- User:NickOrnstein 00:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Question from Tanyavansoest
Hi Phantomsteve. I posted a question on the help page asking for clarification on how to take an article draft on my user page that I feel is ready for publication as a real article. I know this sounds trivial, but after hours of research I still can't answer this basic question myself! Please help. Frustrated...
I know I don't have an article yet on my talk page, but I'm trying to put together a set of guidelines and when I got to that step, I was stumped! It's not clear to me at all how you migrate a draft into article space. Does it require an editors OK? Is it just better to approach it that way, or is it possible to post it directly? I'd really appreciate your help in clarifying this part of the process. THANK YOU. 00:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanyavansoest (talk • contribs)
Christ's Hospital Old Blues
Move it to Old Blues or Old Blues (Christ's Hospital). Christ's Hospital Old Blues is like saying Eton College Old Etonians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Twelfth Doctor (talk • contribs) 18:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Ismael Mathay Sr. High School article
I replied to your post on my talk page. Beside that, I am beginning to think that Palengkero is George Prado: The whole http://gsisvhsaa.tripod.com/ site was down yesterday. Today it is back, and the Kids in the Attic page has a more restrictive copyright notice, and the bird animation no longer links to the Wikipedia page. —teb728tc 23:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thanks
thankyou for helping me at the help desk:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zthatin (talk • contribs) 10:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks man, I'm not sure how much editing I will do on here though. All the best! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zthatin (talk • contribs) 10:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Colin Franklin issue
I saw your followup questions - while I could post this there, I thought I'd just make a couple points here. You wondered why Colin isn't directly corresponding. Did you catch that he is 82? While my 90 year old father in law uses email, it isn't "natural" to him, and had he been in the same position (seeing something on the internet about him he didn't like), he would ask me. (In fact he walked in the door as I'm writing this and he confirmed.
I am mildly concerned that the WP position is that anything can be in a bio if it can be confirmed. I know I need to address this at some bios project page, but I'd like to see us defer to the subjects wishes in the case of living persons, if the matter involves family fact not relating to notability. I see that these have been removed, but they show up on many websites in many locations - WP is understandably a source for many places, we need to make sure we exercise appropriate responsibility. I'm not really trying to debate you on this topic, I guess I'm just practicing.
I was also disappointed to see so many unreferenced claims, some unverifiable, in a bio that has been around so long. I'm still new here, and wary of getting into BLP battles, but may have to wade in. I think we need better processes regarding unsourced claims - if nothing else, we should require a moindex tag on bios without references.--SPhilbrickT 14:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the nice response. I no longer have kids at home, and my work is rather intense, so my WP contribution timing is almost the opposite of yours. Regarding inclusion of family in a bio, I understand it is common, but I feel it should not be done over a subjects objection. I fully understand that this position will be opposed, possibly even vociferously, possibly even by you:) I probably won't pursue it at this time, there are too many more important issues to address. Enjoy your time with your kids, a time will come when you look back on their interference with your WP contributions fondly.--SPhilbrickT 16:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Colin Franklin
Hi PhantomSteve, I've actually taken a read through your conversation with Sphilbrick (all very fascinating as a relatively new member to wikipedia), and I completely agree with the age issues that are causing me to be used as a proxy. I've spoken to Mr. Franklin again and he is still insistent on removing the article - I've tried to tell him that he was a notable figure in his field and the entry should be seen as a recognition not as a foul, however, it is his personal opinion.
Thereby, could we start the process of emailing in the issue? I could ask him to send the email, he is still a fellow with the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, so his email would be "@ieee.org". If that is not suitable, I could email you for him, I work at the Communications Research Centre Canada (where he did a lot of his work), it's a government research lab under Industry Canada so my email is "@crc.gc.ca".
Thanks for your help, and please advise as you see fit.
Anandsrivastava2009 (talk) 15:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your response. I completely understand what you are saying regarding the balance between personal information and verifiable factual information (awards etc.). I will definitely ask Mr. Franklin to email the Forum with his cause for concern and hopefully they will be able to resolve the issue.
I sincerely appreciate the time you've taken with this article (my apologies, I was out of town for the weekend, so I missed quite a few comments). Cheera!
After some editing & rearranging, I believe the article is no longer violating anyone's copyright.--Gilabrand (talk) 14:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
my first article Marsha Martin
Dear Phantomsteve, I knew I screwed up the tilde thing. I couldn't remember how many it was and I put too many, and after it was done I didn't know what to do. I assume wikipedia is using Hmtl or whatever it's called (I always thought it looked like heavy metal) and I don't know how to use it. Also I've never done anything with the little numbers in the text and the footnotes on the bottom. I am way out of my depth here, as far as formatting goes. There are a couple other authors I know of who have no entries in wikipedia and if I can struggle through, I will write articles for them, too.
I went back and refound my sources (ancestry.com is HARD to refind stuff on) and pasted the address at the top of the page onto my Marcia Martin page. I didn't go back to abe to find listings for the books. There were nearly 1400 books for sale that were by people named Marcia Martin and it took me hours to go through them. Oh wait, I could just search for each title. Shit. Well, I'll go do that now, that would be one abe listing for each book, is that what you want?
Hi, I was wondering why you removed the unsourced category from List of people executed for homosexuality when sources have yet to be added? Note that wp:List does mean that sources need to be referenced on the list rather than pointing to other WP articles.—Ash (talk) 05:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Marker
Oops..I guess tha I hit a wrong ky. So simply said. Hello. Have a rewarding life and perhaps we can talk?
- a fellow wonderer/wanderer?
Let me put it this way. I practice yoga successffully and Zen has been with me for many years but I often seek, otherwise why am I awake at 3 am?
So by way of a "hi, this is me" intro, I am curious...but wiki is new to me.
I am very confused by wikipedia. I'm just not a computer person. I left the message wondering how to move the article before I heard from you before. I figured it was something I had to eventually learn! And if no one ever looked at my page, they certainly would when it got moved out into the fast lane. Cause, you know, so many people are crying to know about Marcia Martin.
I did paste the address on the page where the actual photographs of census records are. The trouble with ancestry.com is that you have to be a paying member of it to use it. The US census records themselves are a matter of public record, easily accessed at research libraries in any good sized US city. I don't live in the US, though, so I'm a paying member of ancestry.com to get to them. I don't know if there's any free way to look at census records on the internet.
I got hints from one of the family trees, yes, but I looked at their sources of information (information on the trees are sourced) and went to the originals. I didn't use any information that I found only on a family tree. There really wasn't that much to begin with, and for the purposes of this, we don't care about the ancestry of the person. I am assuming that you don't pay for ancestry.com, and I'm not sure what records outsiders are allowed to see. I know that before I joined, I would occasionally get links to them, but if I tried to maneuver around the site, I was barred.
My information came from the actual census records. When I lived in the states I used to use Case Western Reserve library to see the census. The census is certainly a reliable source, as far as the limitations of the census taker, himself, and his handwriting, etc. Same thing with the draft registration cards. They are photographs of the actual cards. I don't know where else you can access them, I never used them in research before. Had no idea they were out there, and how helpful they could be.
WHO'S argument made you change your mind about the hans beckert thing mine or MichaelQSchmidt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harold.w.coxly (talk • contribs) 21:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your response
Thanks for responding to my request earlier. The name of my page is Asset Control. I still do not see it. I checked the deleted items but I did not find my article in there. Any advices? Thanks beforehandAssetControl (talk) 22:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks from Earthlyreason
.. for pointing out that my talk page note about 'Unreferenced' tags was showing up in the system, and for being respectful. I've fixed it as you suggest, and learned about the 'nowiki' markup in the process. Cheers! Earthlyreason (talk) 02:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Top Gear Test Track
Hi PhamtomSteve, You said that I could come to you if I needed any help. I would like to take you up on that offer. I have a concern about the drawing of the test track for the uk television show Top Gear found here and here and the raw copy is here. The problem is that it is the old design, by memory they stopped using it in 2005 and changed to a longer track thus removing all times and starting the times all over again. I don't know wheather or not you have Google Earth or not but if you simply type in "top gear" in the google earth search it will direcct you straight to the current design of the test track. I have even gone to the trouble of uploading a screenshot for you here. As you can see for yourself is is much different than the one you guys are currently using. So that's my concern if you don't want anything to do with this can you please direct me to someone who will help out on this matter.--Zthatin (talk) 16:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah for sure i'd like to wait till you are ready if thats ok. In the mean time I can do a drawing of the current track simply by tracing over the one on Googgle Earth. Good Luck with your home duties, Thankyou very much. and thanks again for welcoming me to Wikipedia i've spent quite abit of time reading articles of my interest over the past week. So is it really true that anyone can edit any article they wish?--Zthatin (talk) 20:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Finally! Thank you :)----occono (talk) 11:03, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Władysław Łukasiuk
Hi, I'm the one who started the above article. It's pretty new so citations are sparse - it's mostly a translation from Polish wikipedia. The Pietrzak reference I added is pretty exhaustive although it doesn't have much on early life of the guy. The other ref which I just added has a lot less. I have not been able to find any English language sources (and believe me, I've looked) - however, both the Polish language sources are reliable.radek (talk) 16:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Dating tags
I noticed you have been doing some of these. As you may know SmackBot dates many of these every day. However there are always some it can't get out of the undated categories - for various reasons including subst'ing of templates, really bad attempts to use some kind of date template within the template, addition of categories manually etc. Keeping up with these exceptions is a good way to improve the bot, but I often fall behind. If I set up a list of current problem pages would you be interested in looking at some of them? RichFarmbrough, 17:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC).
Yes it changes Date, dAte, fate, and a whole bunch of things. It also does some reasonably thorough spelling corrections for some months, and less thorough for others, takes out month-day numbers, makes 09 and 009 into 2009, and in most cases bulldozes the remaining date= XXXX stuff if it won't parse as month year into the current month year. I will drop a note when I put the list up. RichFarmbrough, 18:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC).
Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 05:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Evolution Champoinship Series
Yeah, I've been a little busy myself lately. As far as a 'reliable' source goes, I fear that I am out of luck. The Washington Post or similar periodicals wouldn't run a story on this type of event, and I'm unsure where to proceed. I guess that this may end up being one of the articles that 'isn't noteworthy enough' for wikipedia. Wrestlemania is basically the same thing, but for professional wrestling, and most of the 'sources' are from the wwe website, but there's no problem having an article about that, *sigh*. Maybe one day EVO will grow, and I'll update my article as best I can, but until then I think I'm out of luck. Thanks for looking at it though! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremybox (talk • contribs) 14:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naxalbari National Heritage Academy
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Potential advice for people who think they should start their experience at Wikipedia by creating a new article
It took me longer than I had hoped, but I wrote some possible advice and discussed it in the Help discussion page. If I do this right, it is here preceding unsigned comment left by Sphilbrick (talk, contribs) 15:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
sub page
Thanks for your suggestions. I have tried to add as many references as possible but if you do get a chance to look at it again, would be greatly appreciated! Nkannas (talk) 11:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated Manish Pitambare, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manish Pitambare. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
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The article now includes references that document the vandalism as well as rewriting or deleting where I couldn't quickly find a reference. As a former traveller on that rail line I can certainly remember the times the station showed signs of fresh vandalism (often scorch marks) or the time the train I was in was hit by a stone thown by a vandal (anecdotal evidence suggests this is common). However, none of that satisifies WP:RS Hopefully the recent edits will remove the NPOV problems. Autarch (talk) 17:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for finding references - I have removed the "unref" tag. I have also removed the NPOV tag, even though I didn't put it on the article (I only dated it to August, as the problem hadn't been solved from what I could see). normally I would suggest that you ask the person who originally put the NPOV tag to look at the articlem but as this was an IP address rather than a registered user, I am taking the decision myself to remove the tag. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:41, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome! Autarch (talk) 20:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for this note
Figuring out how to execute a task on Wikipedia can be remarkably confusing. The content in which something is presented is not always clear. The method by which one might respond is unclear as a result. So, thank you for this note. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kernel.package (talk • contribs) 01:09, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Unusual editor request?
Hi Phantomsteve,
We've had only a few exchanges, but it's clear that you are an authoritative editor to be trusted. For this reason I would like to propose a rather unconventional opportunity, which, given its last minute nature, you may not be likely to be interested in, let alone respond to - but hey, I'm going to give it a shot anyway.
Long story short: as previously introduced, I'm a PR consultant for Burson-Marsteller - a rather large global PR consultancy - and was recently charged with the task of developing the digital capabilities for our Singapore office. Tomorrow, I'm going to be giving an introductory, lunch-hour session on the nature of Wikipedia, the do's and don't's and everything else I've determined as critical information that my colleagues should be aware of IF and when a client say's to them "I want to have a Wikipedia article, can you advise".
On that note, I'm wondering if you would be AT ALL interested in taking 10-15 min out of you day to join our very casual introductory session and answer any of our outstanding questions...concerns etc. You'd be most welcome to listen in on the whole thing of course...which will approximately run for about 45 min. If you chose to do so, I, the moderator would welcome you jumping in at any given time to contribute, contest, applaud...whatever you felt appropriate.
I'm in Singapore which is GMT+7 meaning that as I write this it's 8:30 pm on THURSDAY. If you are anywhere in the US...let's say New York, it's would be exactly 8:30 am THURSDAY MORNING for example. SO, yes, there's a big time diff., and I would be giving this session at 12pm Friday my time...whatever that translates into in your time, it's likely going to be evening on Wednesday.
I know this is a shot in the dark, but I would very very much welcome senior input such as yours if you at all interested.
I would propose that we do this via Skype...but there doesn't have to be any image on your end if you're not keen. Of course, we'd have our camera open so you could see us :)
My name again, is Tanya van Soest and I'm found under *********** on skype...here of course...or via ***************@********* should you wish to converse off Wikipedia.
In the event that you cannot, or do not want to have anything to do with this, and you think you may know of another editor who might be interested, I'd welcome the suggestion.
Thank you in advance, for at the very least, consideration of this request.
Thanks for thinking of me, but I will have to decline the kind invitation!
I hope that I am building up a reputation of being trustworthy (I always try to do what is right on Wikipedia, even if I do sometimes make mistakes!). However, I'm not sure about the authoratitive bit!
I hope it goes well, and again, thanks for thinking of me! (By the way, Ive removed your contact details - even though this is a user page, it is still visible across the whole world!) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
logo
Hi Phantomsteve,
When I did a search for copywright ownership, the Cambridge House logo doesn't actually have one. Does this make the image a free one? In which case I am afraid I am not sure how to proceed! Nkannas (talk) 14:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Asked a "flagging" question
Just asked a question about how to flag info which does not match citation's external page.
If you know the answer could you respond to my question on the HelpDesk page itself.
hello! (many apologies in advance for my lack of capitalisation; the best shift key on my keyboard is broken.) so, i'm a new wikipedian (and i want to sincerely contribute as best i can), although i am not completely stupid when it comes to editing. today, i noticed that the "Dan Brown (YouTube)" article was messed up in a certain area. a chart on the page that should contain 25 links was all disjointed and the text format was such that it didn't form a chart at all. i know quite a lot about what needs to go in the chart, so i decided to fix it. i learned how to construct a chart and set to tidying the article up.
to cut a long story short: when i edited in the 25 necessary links to Dan Brown's youtube videos (which is the whole purpose of the chart in the first place), i got a message saying that, due to so many external links, my changes had been removed, because i could be a spammer or something - which i completely understand is a safety precaution. but it wasn't just my links that got removed, it was ALL my past changes that disappeared - even ones that were just grammatical improvements and updates.
needless to say, i was discontented. not angry at all, but a bit thrown-off course. i don't want to tarnish my potential to be a good editor; i want to be mildly confident when editing articles, and i don't want to shy away from editing, however this has really put me off quite a lot. every time i get a future message, i don't want to be worried that i've done something wrong. the last thing i want is to ruin wikipedia or break the rules!
but anyway, i really thought that the links would not get removed - there are many other links to Dan's videos that are in his article, and this was my first time putting links into an article. i have read and examined the 'external links guidelines' and i believe that my links conform to wikipedia's policies - they don't link to malware, they don't break copyright, they don't advertise etc. but all the same, they got (automatically) removed. i don't want to just re-edit the links onto the page, because they might get removed again. i want to make sure that my edit will be legitimate. basically, i wonder, should i edit my links back in? or should i just leave it and hope someone else tidies up the page?
i hope i haven't confused you, i do tend to oversimplify often. thank you for your time! Katabee (talk) 18:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Katabee, thanks for contacting me. I have seen your message, but I've quickly logged into wikipedia to check messages etc, but I don't actually have time to look at your changes (and XlinkBot's reversion) - but I will have a look tomorrow when I get a chance! I thought I'd leave a message so that you don't think I'm ignoring your message! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:10, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Having seen the message from XlinkBot on your talk page when I left the talkback, I see that the bot has explained it well... those links that you changed/removed are protected. May I suggest that you leave a message on the article's talk page (here) explaining what you intend on doing - and don't be discouraged! I'll look at this more thoroughly tomorrow, as mentioned above. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
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Hi again,
I did contact them and they were very happy for me to use the logo,and to modify it etc. so they will definitely say yes. As for other images, they are keen to do that too and they said they would send me some. So I will have a go with that, thanks for the help- I was just a bit unsure about how to fill in the upload form as I have not done it before.
Thanks again Nkannas (talk) 09:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
As soon as I hear from them (I have sent them the declaration they need to use to meet Wikipedia's licensing), I'll sort that out! As you can appreciate, for legal reasons, we have to have that permission - a simple "Yes, you can use the logo" isn't enough, hence my question!
For future images that they may send to you (if they do not follow the template I sent them to give permission), let me know, and I'll give you step by step instructions on how to obtain official permission to use their image(s), and how to notify the WikiMedia Foundation of this permission. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I didn't realise there was a form. I will definitely contact you should they send me any more photos.
Many thanks again Nkannas (talk) 11:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Help with my new created page, ETC;
Uh, what's the problem? I wanted to create a new page for myself, started hooking it up, confirmed my email address, but the thing is, I didn't understand some of the user/creator setting's, to make this the way I want it. Like no number's by or instead of my link's. I wanted a different background skin, other stuff as well. It's great having all the many feature's, but it's overly confusing to many, when all the info should be (untop new page, misc creator's) simplified. Can I do this, with help from the tech support, misc or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffreydavidmorris (talk • contribs) 12:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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where have you looked for information on Wasfi al-Atassi that you say there are no non-wiki sources? I do not want to duplicate your work DGG ( talk ) 01:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi DGG. My prod was based on Google Searches under both Wasfi al-Atassi and Wasfi Beik al-Atassi:
Wasfi al-Atassi
70 hits on Google Web Search - from what I can see, they are all wiki hits (from sites which use wikipedia content)
As you will see if you follow the links, I made sure that I chose the options that showed all possible results.
I am no history expert - and there could be references to him in history books which I do not own (or even have access to), but from the resources available to me, I cannot find any references to him. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
just as you say, the material will need to be found with other approaches than Google. I consider it unproductive to nominate for deletion articles whose check will require resources you do not have immediately available. What you are essentially doing is forcing others to work on the subjects you want them to--and least, forcing them to do it if they care about information in the encyclopedia for material older than 2000. You could very readily destroy tens of thousands of articles with this tactic. As you live in the UK, indeed in London, you have decent print libraries available, and you ought to use them yourself. Otherwise it puts an undue burden on those who are willing to do so. DGG ( talk ) 13:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I have no knowledge in this area - it is really the area for someone with knowledge and expertise in the area. To be honest, I wouldn't even know where to start looking for the information - I live on the outer part of "Greater London", and do not have ready access to the libraries where this material may be, even assuming that it's available and written in English!
I am not forcing anyone to work on any subjects. I am merely putting this up as a nomination for deletion as it does not appear to follow the notability guidelines. Using the argument "There will be information somewhere" isn't really adequate in my opinion - using that argument, most articles would not be deleted!
There is no mention of him on the article on Syria or History of Syria - the only mention of anyone with that family name is Hashim al-Atassi (his cousin). In the article Atassi, the only mention is that he was member of the 15-membered Ruling Council of the Tri-State Union. If he was as important as that, I would expect some mention on the History of Syria article. The photograph caption mentions the souryah al-Fatat - but no other article mentions this body.
I do not nominate articles for deletion just for the hell of it - I do check for sources that are readily available to me - without a trek into Central London, it is tricky without using the internet, but for prominent and important people (read: notable), I would expect there to be something online, even if it was just a couple of sentences... but all the references I could find were wiki articles from here. I also check through wikipedia for associated subjects, looking for a mention.
However, I am adding the article to Wikiprojects Arab World and Syria, and will be leaving messages asking their members to look at the article and provide references - there will be experts amongst them. Regards -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Just want to mention that you should not expect articles in Wikipedia to mention everything that they should, especially general articles on countries--that's not a safe criterion. (In fact, when something dubious is there, it's worth while seeing when it was added--people have been known to dadd their non-notable person's name to general articles atthe same time they write the bio. ) I appreciate your interest in getting things like this right. DGG ( talk ) 05:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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Portal:Google
If you want, can you help me by giving me some ideas ? Wild mine (talk) 12:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't know anything about creating Portals! You might be better off moving it to your userspace (e.g. User:Wild mine/Portal:Google), re-reading Wikipedia:Portal/Guidelines, and then perhaps post a message at Category_talk:Portals#Portals_under_construction asking for others to look at it (I have categorized it in the "Portals under construction" category - when it is complete an browseable, but needing more attention, this can be changed to the category "Portals needing attention"). If you have any other questions, let me know - I'll do what little I can! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your help Wild mine (talk) 12:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
No worries! Oh by the way, you might want to try a "Show preview" before leaving a message, then you won't need to edit a couple of times... mind you, the number of times I have to make minor changes even after I've previewed... lol -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to you, my page is safe Wild mine (talk) 12:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
"Quinceanera film" suppressions : thanks from Arapaima for your answer
Hello PhantomSteve, thanks for your answer. As you say , the discussion page of the article has no trace of "Shiver of recognition"'s explanations. I don't think it is worth it to write to "Shiver...", since his personal page and discussion page are empty : it looks like he appeared on 2009, January 8th, during the night, in the middle of a dog-fight over the article "Bacon", and did'nt show up until now.... I know the film deals with a lot of social important topics : American-Mexican people in USA, unwed teen pregnancy, immigration, homosexuality, competition for housing, culture clash etc...etc..., but it is what makes the film interesting, and I think I wrote with neutrality about these issues, and after viewing 3 times the movie. As I said, I know and love the latino culture - and about homosexuality, I have several gay people among my friends, and am fully tolerant about their way of life. For me "Shiver"s reverts are only of the vandalistic type. How could I make the article come back to its former version ? . Thanks for your answer ( I understand I have to come back to your page to read it, which looks normal to me). Bye-bye, Arapaima (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Arapaima. Well, assuming that no other changes have been made, just undo the vandalism (in case you don't know - but I'm guessing that you do - here is how: click on the "history" tab at the top of the page, click on the "undo" option next to Shiver's alteration, change the default edit summary to something more useful. It might be an idea, in any case, to leave a message on the article's discussion page, explaining what you have done and why. That way, if Shiver keeps changing it, you can apply for protection on the page - and admins can see what you did and why. I would also leave a message on Shiver's talk page (create it if necessary) and explain there as well. If you have any questions, just let me know! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi PhantomSteve, thank you for your kind & quick answer. Well, in fact, during the last 2 years, my travels on WP:en (as well as WP:fr, from where I originate, and on Wp:es, where there seem to be only caballeros) have been fully amicable, and I never had to undo somebody's work. A year ago, on WP:en, when I tried to state that the first "legal" settlers of the Falkland Islands were actually the French under Bougainville, I choose to retreat rather than to begin another Falkland war (and against a barn-stared writer at that...) so I hope I'll not blunder in my restauration attempts. Thanks a lot for your advice. PS : Do you speak German correctly ? I recently added some lines to "Eduard Seler" (1900 german pioneer of studies on the Aztecs), mainly to underline that his wife Cäcilie was of great help to him, in their study as well as on the field, but I think I made an error while quoting the 2009 documentary film by Saskia Wishkeit : is the correct title "Der geheimlich codex den Aztecs" (The secret code of the Aztecs) ? Here nobody speaks fluent german, so I can't check. Thanks again Arapaima (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again & farewell.I comute to WProject Germany Arapaima (talk) 06:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
ADAM Inc
Hi Phantomsteve.
I have updated the A.D.A.M., Inc. wikipedia entry to include citations where I could, and deleted additional text that may have been construed as advertising. It is very important to have an up-to-date and complete Wikipedia entry, as (as you know) the Wikipedia entry shows up on the first page of the search results. Please could you let me know if the edits I have made are not sufficient and if more are required? It is my understanding that wikipedia authors and editors have worked to keep the articles factual by editing, and therefore I do not want to create a situation where the entire article needs to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericarenzo (talk • contribs) 18:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ericarenzo.
Yes, you are right - the aim is to improve articles, not delete them. If you look at my history, there are quite a few articles that I have found sources of information for - even if I knew almost nothing about the subject!
I have just quickly logged onto wikipedia to check a couple of things, and have to go in a couple of mins, so I'll have a look at the article when I get a chance - but that might not be until next Monday, OK? I just thought I'd reply so you know I'm not ignoring you! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I just checked and the entry is now completely gone! Can you let me know how I can find out who removed it? If nothing else I would like to revert back to the original version until this can be sorted out. I really appreciate your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericarenzo (talk • contribs) 17:15, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Use of word "wiki"
I notice you posting on the help desk often, and you're very helpful. However, I just need to point out that this site is called Wikipedia, not wiki. A wiki is any website using wiki software; there are thousands of them. I just want to make sure that no newbs are confused. You can abbreviate it as WP if you don't want to type the whole word (I usually do that, as I'm pretty lazy). For more information, check out WP:Don't abbreviate Wikipedia as Wiki. Have a good day, and keep it up with the great advice! hmwitht 14:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this out - I must admit it is pure laziness on my part! In future, I'll either use Wikipedia or WP! I was aware that wiki is the software rather than the site, but newbs may not, so I need to remember that! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
army public school location
i'm really sorry cudnt rite dis bfore. well see google maps in india region is quite inacurate. the school and all nearby areas including military establishments fall in the Pune Camp area wich is maintained by Pune Cantonment Board, the rest of the city being maintained by Pune municipal corporation. Newayz i'm just a student in the school and no1 here uses wiki features so 2 increase d spred of wiki, i created dis article. newayz thnx a lot for organizing the article. m grtful. regards oh nd BTW wot do i do bout the citation needed thingy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinmay26r (talk • contribs) 16:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Chinmay26r! What you need for the citations is to read the guidelines about reliable sources, find some reliable sources with information about the school, and mention them in the article. For information about how to cite them, see citations. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
so can i change it bak 2 camp? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinmay26r (talk • contribs) 16:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I would suggest that you change it to Pune Camp rather than Camp. I'm in England, so I just went by the Google Maps result! I had a quick check elsewhere online - like Yahoo! India - and "Pune Camp" would seem to be the best suggestion. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
k thnx wud u mind chekin if the citation given is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinmay26r (talk • contribs) 16:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
That was a good attempt - but instead of <sup> you need to use<ref> - and at the "References" item, you use <references/> instead of redoing the citation! I have corrected it, and also added the official school website - along with Google's warning that it may put malware onto your computer. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Just a note, the coords for these articles mainly come directly or indirectly fro a US gov source, and are often only accurate to within 1 minute - about a mile depending where you are. RichFarmbrough, 23:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC).
I have attempted a fix of the template per your note at Help talk:Template. Unless I missed something, it should now work seamlessly whether substituted or transcluded. Of course, you must use the one parameter included, i.e., {{User:Phantomsteve/afd-notice|name of article at AFD}}. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Fuhghettaboutit. I'm in the middle of something at the moment, and will be going to bed soon, so I'll look at it tomorrow! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for trying, mate, but when I tried it, and then click on "edit", it still popped up my template to edit! I've re-inserted the check for it being substd'd. Again, thank you for trying. As I do previews about 99% of the time, I'll catch it before saving if I don't subst - and if not, I'll notice immediately after saving, and can subst it after! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I am having a hell of a time creating a page for Jaseng Hospital of Oriental Medicine. I'm not attempting to promote it just state the facts about what it is, what it does, address etc, etc. Initially I used the Wooridul Spine Hospital as an example to follow but was quickly red flagged and blocked for lack of citation. I'm not wanting to get anyone in trouble but the Wooridul article does not have a single reference, which is why mine was lacking. I understand my mishap however unintentional it may have been.
In learning my errors, I gathered numerous online sources to verify information, but am struggling to upload a thumbnail photo, for example for I am unsure of the liscensing of the photo, even though I am permitted to use it by the chairman of the Hospital. I am also struggling to understand how to put in cited references and footnotes. I don't understand the codes. I have been looking at the Mount Sinai Hospital Site as an example now. I am a beginner at using Wikipedia for these purposes, so any constructive help would be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhowsie (talk • contribs) 06:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. There are a couple of points I want to quickly make:
The hopsital already has an article - it was created on 24 August by User:Jasenghospital
You are quite right about Wooridul not having any references - I'll look at that later when I get a chance! However, the Jaseng Articles has got a couple of references now! To add your own citations, don't worry too much about using complicated formats - after the fact your reference is about, just add <ref>your reference details</ref>. Someone else will format it more thoroughly! For example, if your references was on a web page, <ref>http://the.website.com/page.html</ref>; if it was in a book: <ref>"This is a title" by Alfred B. Charlie (published 1919 by Lemotif Books, London) - page 16</ref> or in a newspaper: <ref>"School founder's memorial service" by A. Journalist (Croydon Advertiser, 26 August 26, page 11)</ref>. If you had items like that, it would be relatively easy for another editor to tidy up the citation!
To be able to use a photograph which is copyright to someone else, we need proof that they have given permission to use it on Wikipedia. If you see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials or Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Alternatively, if you live close enough to the hospital to be able to take your own photograph, you can upload that and use that - that wouldn't be copyrighted to someone else as it's your own work!
I hope this helps. I have left a welcome message on your talk page with some useful links to guidelines on Wikipedia. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi again,
Please let me know how to correct my thumbnail situation.
It says I didn't use licensing(???)and the image will be deleted in 7 days.
The picture is from Jaseng website, with permission of the organization —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhowsie (talk • contribs) 08:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid that we need proof of the permission! Although it is a simple photograph that looks the same as if you had taken it yourself, as it is from a website it is covered by copyright. Please read Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission on how to receive permission from the website so that we can use the image. Alternatively, if you could take a photograph yourself (and please don't just re-upload that photo and say you took it yourself!) then that could be uploaded to commons as your own work. Contact me if you have any questions -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:24, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
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Help! Where is my page.
I have edited my page igxe in wikipedia. But when I tried to search igxe or igxe wikipedia on google, nothing showed up. What's wrong? My page hasn't been deleted. Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicki001 (talk • contribs) 09:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Vicki - the page is actually on Wikipedia here: Igxe. It takes a bit of time to show on the search facility on wikipedia, and Google takes a little bit longer to index it too! If you have any more questions, just contact me! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Hi Steve!! Thanks for your welcome message. Are you an admin here? BigKing197cm (talk) 12:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
No, NigKing197cm, I am not an administrator, I am just a normal editor like the majority of users! Sometimes I notice someone who created/added to an article who hasn't been welcomed, so just give them a welcome! I should do it more often, but time can be limited! Anyway, enjoy your time on Wikipedia, and contact me should you have any questions. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for starting to fix this. I'm glad someone followed up quickly enough. DGG ( talk ) 02:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
To be honest, that's as far as I can go! My local libraries have no information that I can find, I can't find anything else through Google, and I can't afford to go into Central London to research further about a subject I'm not particularly interested in! However, there's enough to save it from being delete for the time being - I am happy to leave it in Wikipedia, as there's enough information to convince me that he had an influence on the situation! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 02:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but just as you say you did enough to keep the article from deletion--while I was rushing too fast to do more than guess. I did not mean to imply you had any responsibility to do more--I worded it this way to avoid saying that everything was finished perfectly. This is a n excellent response to my deprodding, and I thank you for it. DGG ( talk ) 02:40, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
IP blocked
I've done it. You can tell school's started! Dougweller (talk) 14:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes in regards to that, sorry for barging in like that and I hope you don't think me rude, I just didn't want Occono to go to ANI and get redirected again to AIV. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 14:58, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Taskforce spammer
I thought I was being gentle by using a softblock and the softerblock template message, rather than a spamusername block (which would have been technically justified IMO) on this COI s.p.a.! Almost all spammers for non-profits feel that they are not really promoting, just "educating the public". Part of NPOV is that we have to be as firm and impartial with somebody pushing a noble cause or entity (i.e., one we agree with) as we are with a normal commercial spammer or crank. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks from Stronach
for sorting out the photo. It looks great. Much appreciated. Stronach (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
For helping me with the Deford-Cass City Christian Academy page. I'm not sure if you can also help me with this issue, but it appears that somebody has moved the Cass City Public School District page and instead created Cass City Public Schools. I tried to edit the first one I mentioned, but it appears that the person tried to revert my edits. I believe that much of the information on these sites is very much false. Thanks in advance! Mrhercli89 (talk) 00:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I can have a quick look, but I don't know anything about the Michigan area - I'm in England! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll have to ask for an administrator to look at the School District article. I can't move it as there is the redirect at the old name. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually, before I did that I did some searching. There are more references on Google News/Books/Scholar/Web (there were 69 News/35 Books/6 Scholar/4200 Web) to "Cass City Public Schools" than there were to "Cass City Public School District" (there were 4 News/2 Books/0 Scholar/17 Web), so I'm taking the "Public Schools" are the most correct title. I've corrected the redirect for "Cass City Public School District" to go to "Cass City Public Schools". -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:54, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
jason turner special
Kturn101 (talk) i made a subject called Jason Turner speicial and i dont know how it attacks ppl —Preceding undated comment added 01:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC).
I can't answer that, as I didn't put it up for deletion, so didn't see the content. Your best bet is to ask the editor who tagged it for deletion, ttonyb1 (leave a message at their talk page). -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 01:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
ty and i did but he wont answer ty again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kturn101 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm very sorry, but I just tried to make a new entry for Ratifiers for Democracy, but messed up the name of the entry, which reads "ratifiers for democracy". Yikes. I don't know how to fix, or even if my entry is appropriate.
Musicaloyster (talk) 04:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Phantomsteve, for your help with Ratifiers for Democracy, and on what constitutes an notable organization. I would argue that it does, as it is one of the few models of modern reform studied in universities around the world, having become part of the curriculum. Ratifiers for Democracy has made a powerful impact on reform discussion in many countries, including Singapore, where
ARDA has reprinted a Ratifiers for Democracy editorial. See http://www.asiademocracy.org/content_view.php?section_id=1&content_id=270
Ratifiers for Democracy is considered by many political parties think tanks such as the Salzburg Global Seminar and in open discussions on blogs such as GetUp (see http://www.getup.org.au/blogs/view.php?id=754).
Hi Musicaloyster. May I suggest that you mention these facts on the article's talk page? I am not very knowledgeable in this area, and all I know is that (1) the article was not suitable for a Speedy Deletion (2) I couldn't find reliable references to Ratifiers for Democracy. It would best be left for those who know about this field, and if you can find references to show that it is notable, then that's fantastic.
I would add one other comment - it is a model for reform - if I understand correctly, this model has not been implemented anywhere, is that right? While it may be on curricula around the world as a theory, that does not necessarily make it notable. Could you find links to universities' websites which show that it is used as part of their curriculum? If so, this might help show its notability. Again, this is not my area of expertise, so don't quote me on that! If there's anything else I can help you with, just drop a note on this page! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your patient help, Phantomsteve. I tried to do as you suggested, posting examples on the Ratifiers Talk site. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness you put into this, and your help with the title. I'm sorry that I still can't find how you title a new topic. Could you please point me to the right place?
Musicaloyster (talk) 04:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Regards the Francesco Masini Photo...
Yes, infact that photo is taken from the book "Santa Marija Hamsin Sena fil-Katidral" of the Reverend Bezzina (There is the complete bibliography on the article). If you have no problem doing so, please make all the changes necessary, as I am still getting accustomed to the service. I will repeat all changes on the Maltese Articles. And- yes, he is my grand grand father, and I am trying to get a photo from my family, so the current photo is just a temporary one.
Thanks very much for your help, and for the comments! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmasini (talk • contribs) 14:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I have just found a document with his signature! It comes from Fr. Bezzina's book as well, but I will contact him and try to get a copy of the original document. But for now, can I add only the part of his signature? Regards your question about his maltese name, I am quiete sure that he was called Francesco also in Maltese, but if I get to know anything different, I will tell you immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmasini (talk • contribs) 14:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I have just found a better photo taken from the Leone Website - http://leone.ictnode.com/pages/detail.asp?m=173. I have not uploaded it as 'entirely my own work' and I categorized it as 'taken from Google or a random website'. If there are other details needed, please make them, and once again, thanks very much for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmasini (talk • contribs) 15:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments here! I am busy this weekend (my partner and kids need some attention from me!) but will look at this on Monday. A couple of comments though:
As the photograph comes from a book which is in copyright, it would be unable to be used here without specific permission from the author - if you are in touch with him, I will explain how you can get permission to use it - but I'll do that next week when I have time. However, if you can find a family photograph, then there are no copyright issues to consider it, as you have the right to assign it the correct permissions - again, we can talk about that if you can find one.
The Leone Philharmonic Society could perhaps be used, but I'll have to look at their site more closely, and perhaps contact them for permission. Again, I'll look into it next week
With regard to his signature, again we really need Rev Bezzina's permission to use that, I think.
Basically, I will look into this in more detail next week when I have time to do so. Have a good weekend! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
BEA
Thanks for message, it was probably my mistake that I removed your addition of the single. You probably need to judge if the single was notable to the history of the airline as I suspect it was only one of many publicity items produced over the years. If you feel it was then I will not remove it again, but the best way is to make some sort of comment on the talk page to make sure nobody objects. If you have any other questions then please ask on my talk page. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Task Force page
Hello Phantomsteve
Thank you for your help and advice regarding the Task Force page I created last week. I have one technical question. Some of the internal links I would like to use in the article lead to empty spaces - pages that have not yet been written. I'd like to write these pages too, and think they are worthwhile in their own right (not only because of the Holocaust Task Force). Is there any problem with me doing that?
Thanks, --Kameyer (talk) 07:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
There would certainly be no problem with creating new pages. However, just bear in mind that they need to be notable in their own right (notable according to the criteria at WP:NOTABLE). You can certainly created 'stub' articles. If other editors think they are not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, then they may put them up for deletion - if this happens, don't be discouraged - it happens to most editors! If you would like me to look at any stub articles, let me know what they are and I'll look at them. (To link to them, use square brackets like this: [[article name]] - then clicking on the link will go to the article. For example [[Task Force for International Cooperation on Holocaust Education, Remembrance, and Research]] gives Task Force for International Cooperation on Holocaust Education, Remembrance, and Research.
Another couple of suggestions: near the top of the page, if you place the tag {{under construction}} then a notice will be shown explaining that the article is being worked on - it won't necessarily prevent other editors nominating it for deletion, but it may stop any 'speedy deletion' nomninations - as long as the article is being worked on! Also, near the bottom of the page, make sure that you use the tag {{stub}}, which will show that the article is a stub-article rather than a completed one.
Thank you for very useful advice! One other question - I have made a number of edits (I hope improvements)to the article, adding references and a criticism section. Would it be possible for you to take a look and, if you agree, remove the tags regarding lack of references, inappropriate tone etc. I hope I have managed to address these issues now. --Kameyer (talk) 10:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I have removed some of the tags, but kept the following ones: "Wikify" (still needs more wiki links); "COI" as you are still the main contributor; "Inappropriate tone", as I still feel that this needs improving. I have also made the table sortable, so that people can sort (for example) by chairpersonship year. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions (I am kind of distracted by the kids at the moment, so I can't really look at it properly!) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok - thank you for taking a look although you're so busy! I have made a few comments on the article's talk page regarding the COI issue, it would be useful if you or someone else could respond (I'll add a help tab. I understand that this is an issue you have to be weary of, but is there anything I can do to resolve the problem? In relation to wiki links, I have now wikified the article as much as I can, with some links still going to empty pages - I will do more research on these and see if they are worth writing. The only issue that really still confuses me is tone - I'm not sure how the article could be more neutral, and as far as I can see it complies to the guidelines (no jargon, only 3rd person etc). Could you perhaps indicate a specific example to help me on this? Thank you and sorry to pester!!--Kameyer (talk) 15:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll look at the article again tomorrow when I have more time (and no kids around!) and remove the other tags as required! I only did a cursory look, and the tags I removed were obviously able to be removed - I'll need to read the article more carefully to ensure that the other tags can be removed. I'd rather keep them there for an extra day when they might not need be there, than remove them and then have to re-add them! When I've had a look, you might want to leave a message at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback (RFF) - there you can get comments and constructive criticism to help improve the article. You can, of course, post a message there straight away - but if you don't before hand, I will look at it tomorrow. Either way, it might be an idea to look at RFF - it'll show you what people say there! I'll leave you a message tomorrow - if you would rather go straight to RFF, just let me know - I won't be offended! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the hint - I posted a message on RFF and will see what comes from that. If you have time please do look at the article again, I'd appreciate your input since you've followed from the beginning. Thanks again for your help, very much appreciated. --Kameyer (talk) 19:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
RE: I'm curious...
{{tb|Garden|I'm curious...}}
Feel free to revert this rather than manually remove it :) GARDEN 17:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you SO much!
I appreciate the Barnstar more than I can say and it now has a place on my user page. Thanks! Regards, PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Page review
I was reviewing websites and wanted to see if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Van_Lines was inline with wikipedia standards. I was trying to find additional references for the company, but all they have listed in their references and external sites are their facebook and social network sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.215.154.165 (talk) 19:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
*Want it deleted because you work for PODS eh 94.196.124.170 (talk) 19:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
If you feel that it has a problem, as a first point of call you should leave a message on United Van Lines's talk page which can be found at Talk:United Van Line. I do not currently have time to look at it properly, but if I get a chance I will look at it. It claims they are the largest movers in the US - which is backed up by references I can find, although I would have to check that some of them are at reliable sites, not just using a press release. I should be able to find time within the next few days to check it out. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. -- preceeding unsigned comment left by 168.215.154.165 (talk) 20:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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Corvette Challenge Registry??
What is the criteria for a Page On Wiki, there are VIN numbers listed with these cars. I have created this page to help people that search for general information to aid them in finding information that has never been put out for the public to view in one place. What need to be done tho keep this page alive??
VetteBrett -- preceeding unsigned contribution left by Vettebrett (talk·contribs) 04:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi VetteBrett. What is required is some indication of the notability of the subject, using reliable sources of information. I had a look and could not find anything that indicated the subject's notability. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Regards to RFA
Thank you for telling me about the admin, i think you should apply to become an administrator. Right now im in the process of becoming a rollback user, im trying to find a way to help wikipedia before im becoming a wiki admin.
P.S.- How did you make your signature colorful like that????????
Thanks, but I know I'm not ready for adminship yet! As for my sig, you change it in "My preferences". -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Rollback
Per your accepted request, I have added rollback rights to your account. Ensure you only use rollback correctly, ie its intended usage of reverting vandalism only. For information on rollback see: Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback in the future, just let me or any admin know. Cheers. Nja247 17:03, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! I've got to go offline now, but I'll do the NAS Rollback tomorrow! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:13, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
The reason I made mention of needing some indication of humorous pages is that I've only seen one example — when searching for information on Bibliographies, guessing that WP:BIBLIO might be relevant, clicking on it and seeing this page, without the identifier that it is a Bibliomaniac15 creation. I'm happy to hear there is a rule, but it wasn't followed in that instance. Perhaps I'm a little irked because I thought I was reporting vandalism - I was admonished for not realizing it was an attempt at humor, and now that it has been reverted, it clearly was vandalism. Oh well, I'll live.--SPhilbrickT 18:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Sphilbrick. With that specific example, I can see why you might be concerned. Although it is a user page, it shouldn't have been linked to by WP:BIBLIO, which now rightly points at the correct page. Also, the user page shouldn't have any "This is policy" message (even with the humour notice above it as it has now). So I apologise if I seemed flippant or rude - that was not the intention. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:27, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
No, no you were fine. I just wanted to explain where I was coming from. I now see that someone did break the rules - redirecting an official page to a user page with no indication it was a joke, but someone (not you) took it less seriously than I thought it deserved. Keep up the good work; your dedication tot he help desk is impressive.SPhilbrickT 13:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
hey you
you no delete my question. you apoligise. okay friendimundo? silly american LOLOLOL --PolishikaMutuado (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
It was not a question for the Help Desk (or anywhere on Wikipedia), which is counted as vandalism. Also, I am not American. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
hey
I read you an english man. do you drink tea and carry umbrella everywhere? is to do you kiss gordon brown? LOLLOLLOL england man. haha! --PolishikaMutuado (talk) 21:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Edit/Message Reply
You sent me this following message a few minutes ago;
September 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to the page Space has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I only added it to get a screenshot that looked completely real, I was about to change it back when you beat me to it, for me messing around this won't sound much coming from me but it does please me immensly that you were so quick off the mark to change it back, gratz.
Hi, the report you made for 65.95.139.168 has been marked as "Edits are not vandalism" by User:Daniel Case. If you think the edits this user made are vandalism, contact Daniel. Thanks. ChevyImpala2009 (Sign me!) 01:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
65.95.139.168
I looked again. Still AGFing, it doesn't quite look obvious to me. Have you tried actually asking what they're trying to accomplish? In any event, they haven't edited since the AIV so I don't really see a need for any administrative action at the moment. Daniel Case (talk) 03:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I believe you. But maybe they may have decided to contribute productively. Let's hope that's the last of it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Cookie!!!
I'm giving cookies for the people who resolved the dispte at the Philippnes quickly. Thanks!--23prootie (talk) 14:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
23prootie has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!
Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!
Phantomsteve, Srinivas has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
I have seen you editing with huggle for the last few minutes, good luck --Srinivas 14:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
YOU'RE NO FUN! :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dk9243 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
how did you know it was me?
dude it took u 4 seconds to find me obviously you know alot about wikipedia so if its cool i have a question how do i create a page of my own? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megakornfan (talk • contribs) 15:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Not all IP editors are wrong
Patrick Swayze died on the 14th, where he is listed. Since I am notr going to enter an edit war perhaps you will go back and undo your revision. -- Drappel (talk) 15:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
You are quite right - I will correct that now! Incidently, I know that most IP editors actually contribute constructive edits - that was my fault, I should have double checked - I got the impression that he died in the early hours this morning, but of course that was when it was reported! Thanks for contacting me. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
All references on Wikipedia that I can find say the 14th, so it's sorted! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
You are welcome, I just made a similar mistake at The Wellington Academy, the creator of the page has blanked it, which I believe is a valid blanking as an indication of a removal request. -- Drappel (talk) 15:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I thought the same with that page! I have left a message on his talk page, and restored the article. As a rule, page blanking is only used to indicate a desire to delete a user page. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:55, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Either look at it and edit it to a scale you believe appropiate or leave it be its 100% factual and they have hid enough evidence of their own with out your help THANKS
To suggest that they have in effect bought off archive.org, google (and presumable ask.com, bing.com, etc etc) is simply ridiculous. If you continue to add these allegations without any proof, then I (and other editors) will remove them. If you have proof from reliable sources, then cite them. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I now see that the source of the conspiracy is Bruce Everiss on his own blog... and how is that a reliable source? Assuming that you are not Bruce, have you even read the Statement of Claim - which I notice you conveniently neglect to link to along with with Bruce's site - hardly a Neutral Point of View. If (assuming the case is settled in Bruce's favour) the case is over, then you could add details of it - as it would be in the newspapers anyway. Other than Bruce's own word on it, have you got any evidence that the claims made in either Don't Play Evony, More about Evony, Is Evony Malware? or elsewhere on the Eleclectic blogs on The Chaos Engine? I would also think that as it is an ongoing legal case, Wikipedia are limited in what we can allow about it, until the case is settled one way or another. If you have proof of yourBruce's claims, from reliable sources, post them. If they are not proof, or reliable, then they will be removed. +
Steve, please stop reverting IP edits on this page. I forgot to log in - they were legit. Furthermore, not all IP edits are wrong. You deleted about three hours work I'm struggling to get back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderryland (talk • contribs) 18:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
First of all, let me point out that I know that not all IP edits are wrong - I would guess that for every IP edit that I have reverted, I am left about 10 alone.
As for this particular edit - the two sources (a facebook group and a blogspot.com blog) are not reliable sources, which is the reason why I reverted the edits. If they had been done when you were logged on, I would still have reverted it. If Jimbo Wales had done it, I would have reverted it. Find a reliable source for this information, and it can be added. I will keep in the circulation figures (although some reliably-sourced information on that would be preferred, I know that will be harder to find) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Steve - you didn't just revert the sources though. You reverted entire sections. You could easily have removed the individual source instead. From Saturday more sources will be available because the website in question will officially launch.
I do beg to differ though - Blogs can be a great and reliable source, especially if, like the source I used, it is a direct copy of a press release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderryland (talk • contribs) 19:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
As per WP:RELIABLE_SOURCES, blogs are not counted as reliable because anyone can add to them. Althought the guidelines refer mainly to using them as references to living people, the same basically goes for organisations - a blog is basically the equivalent to a newspaper's opinion columns - they show what people think, but the content is not necessarily verifiable (the guidelines refer to newspaper op-eds, which would not be reliable sources) - the same principle goes for a facebook group - anyone who is a member of the group can add comments, which may or may not be true. Anyone can create a group (I could have created the group, and I have nothing to do with Vox Pop!).
I was wrong to do the original revert, as it removed useful material - however, I have corrected it with my manual edit, which is what I should really have done to begin with.
Incidently, the fact that the website isn't actually launched yet is an argument against the notability of Vox Pop. However, I am not going to go into that (I'll leave it for others to decide on the notability of it!). When the Vox Pop website launches on Saturday, make a note of any mentions in local and national newspapers (if you get coverage in the Times, Guardian, on the Associated Press wires - these will help show the notability of Vox Pop.
Good luck with the launch - incidently, as the editor of Vox Pop, you have a big conflict of interest, so I would suggest that you read those guidelines! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
And note also that press releases are notoriously among the least reliable sources on the planet. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
There's been coverage in the Scotsman and on the BBC, both of which are noted as sources on the page. The youtube video was an attempt to upload the audio file of coverage on BBC Radio - I couldn't get it to upload directly to wikipedia. If there is a way of doing this (I only have it in wma format), I'd appreciate a hand. It was on a news bulletin, so it's not permanently in iPlayer or anything like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexanderryland (talk • contribs) 12:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
You can't actually upload a YouTube video - for the simple reason (in this case) that the video footage is copyrighted to the BBC. A link to the YouTube video wouldn't generally be acceptable on a Wikipedia article - videos on YouTube can be uploaded by anyone, and could be edited before uploading (I know in this case it wasn't, but in theory it coulod have been). Also, because they are in violation of the BBC's copyright, the BBC can ask YouTube to remove it. I appreciate that the video in question is the same news item as referenced in the above paragraph, but that mention is sufficient for the article. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Articles for Deletion
When does PODS (company) get the articles for deletion tag removed from the page? This is also the question for similar pages as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.215.154.165 (talk) 20:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
As a general rule, AfDs are reviewed by an administrator approximately 7 days after they were opened - however, as admins are volunteers with real lives too, it may be just a bit longer than this! When the admin looks at it, if there is a consensus they will close the AfD implementing the consensus (keep, delete, merge, redirect, etc) having looked at the arguments. If the admin feels that there is no consensus, they can either relist it for another week, or close it as no consensus, which means the article is kept - but without a consensus, it is open to being AfD'd again. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:36, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I think he meant to revert the IP, but his Huggle must have screwed up, and reverted and warned you. Until It SleepsWake me 15:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
They're actually using igloo instead of Huggle. I have left a message on their user page asking them to acknowledge that it was a simple misunderstanding, and to strike out the warning above. I've made mistakes like that too, so it's no biggie. It's just a case of leaving a message on the relevant user's talk page, apologise and strike out the warning - after all, we're all human and all make errors! (well, apart from my partner who says she doesn't!) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
NMSU football
I've provide explanations for my latest edits and it's a damn good one. Why am I still getting my edits reverted and threatened to be blocked! I wrote all this material in the first place damn it! How about actually reading my justification and verifying it before doing a knee jerk revert! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.61 (talk) 16:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
How is this an unconstructive edit when it adds information and provides and explanation?
I removed my warning to the editor's talk page. His edits appear constructive. Maybe you cound remove yours also. Thanks ♠B.s.n.♥R.N.contribs 16:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I am writing from Thurman White Middle School in Nevada, where I am visiting today. I saw the warning you issued to this IP (and earlier ones). The vandalism is likely being done by tween-age students, who are never going to read or heed the warnings. Just so you know. Maybe a schoolblock is in order? (I have a Wikipedia account, but I don't care to log in here.) 169.241.28.91 (talk) 17:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
The IP you used does not have a warning from me. If it is one of the ones used by the school, admins will decide if a schoolblock is in order - I am not an admin. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
"I see", said the blind man. - For some reason, 169.241.28.91 got the warning you left for 169.241.28.94, or the message I sent you went out from a slightly different IP. (They could be neighboring machines or servers.) All the same... and either of us can (at least in theory) refer the address to an admin. I went through similar with an IP at another school I visited last year. (I'm home now, writing this.) Zephyrad (talk) 22:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Neighbouring machines in a school will generally have slightly different IPs, as a school will usually have a block of IPs. As you quite rightly point out, anyone can refer the IP to admins - if you want to, feel free to do so. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Hyderabad Police
You left:
Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Hyderabad City Police. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
My response: I prefer to leave message on your talk page. What is the data you have to say, it is vandalize. Hyderabad Police is truly committing crime, this is based major news paper reports and conducted polls too on Orkut (23 of 26 respondents felt the same). Am reflecting public opinion.
AP Police has 75,000 head count, every day one or other person commits crime publicly and it comes in news papers too.
You can visit blog http://apstatepoliceweekly.wordpress.com/ for more information.
Am giving true picture of them.
Am reverting the changes, if you need to change back, please talk.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.56.81 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I work in the Columbus Symphony Orchestra's administrative offices in the Marketing Department. We are currently changing the name of the symphony to "Columbus Symphony" and dropping the "Orchestra." Could you possibly change the title of the page to reflect this new change?
We will be posting an updated history, information section, etc., once it has been looked over within the department.
Hi, thanks for contacting me. However, at the moment although your website shows "Columbus Symphony" in your logo, all other references are to the Columbus Symphony Orchestra (or CSO) - including the titles of your pages (for example, the title on your home page says "Columbus Symphony Orchestra - Columbus, Ohio". May I suggest that you get your webmaster to change all the titles to "Columbus Symphony", and perhaps put a note on the home page explaining that the name is going to be changed to "Columbus Symphony"? As you will appreciate, Wikipedia needs verification that the name change is happening - and a note on the website would show this perfectly. Otherwise, another editor will look at the website and just revert my changes as they will say "the website doesn't say that"!
If you let me know when this is done, I will happily amend the article title to reflect the change, and make relevant changes within the article to indicate the new name.
I assume that by We will be posting an updated history, information section, etc., once it has been looked over within the department. that you mean on the website, rather than on the article? The reason I say that is that as you are directly involved with the CSO, you have a conflict of interest, and it is suggested that you do not alter articles about an organisation you are involved with yourself. However, if the information is on the website, as a neutral editor, I can update the article!
I am busy with family stuff for the weekend, so may not get much chance to get onto Wikipedia until Monday, but I will be here then! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I notice that there is still no notice of a proposed name for the CSO on the website. If I am missing it, could you provide me with the link?
As you can appreciate it, we must verify all information in Wikipedia, and at the moment I can't find verification of this - I am not saying it is not happening, but we need some kind of evidence! The best would be on the official website, but mentions in national/international newspapers or journals would be just as good - just give me a web link to any suitable sources!
Hello. Thank you for your reply. We are in the process of converting from the "Columbus Symphony Orchestra" to the "Columbus Symphony." Currently, the Columbus Symphony is at the start of its classical season, and the name change is a gradual process, as it is not currently a top priority. Current marketing and print materials for the 2009-2010 concert season DO reflect this change, however, even though it is not evidenced on the website, except by the logo. As to your concern regarding a conflict of interest with the Columbus Symphony, I am not a paid employee of the symphony, but rather an unpaid intern, with a background in music performance, not editing, or arts administration. Thus, I do not feel that a conflict of interest is present. I will be in touch once we are able to get the ball rolling on the name change. Once it is complete on the official Columbus Symphony website, I will contact you again and hopefully get the ball rolling on the name change process.
Thanks for your reply. If you could find a reference to a newspaper article or similar (see reliable sources for the kind we would look for, but generally something of the stature of the Washington Post, NY Times, etc) that refers to the name change, I'd be quite happy to change it. Until we have some verification (I still think that even as an intern you should be able to get someone to make a note of it on the official website), we can't change the article's title - once reliable verification is found, then no worries!
On the subject of your possible COI - as long as any information that you add to the article is written from a neutral point of view and is well-sourced from reliable sources, then there would be no problem. It can be hard to be neutral when you are involved with the organisation, which is why the general advice is not to - it is not an actually rule that you can't, just general advise! If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me.
Incidently, when you sign a contribution to a talk page, if you type ~~~~ at the end, it will add your user name *and* the time/date. I have signed the above contribution (which adds the date/time)! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:09, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks from Tide tolls
For keeping an eye on my talk page. Apologies for the late acknowledgement...I've been under the weather for a couple of days. Keep up the good work Tiderolls 12:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
No worries! I was using Huggle, and User Talk pages usually get my priority when they show, as they are quite often vandalised in retaliation for warnings/blocks. Hope you're feeling a lot better now. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:53, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I see you removed my speedy deletion template from Talk:Janurary 1,2009. I cannot see any reason why this page should not be deleted, as it does not contribute to Wikipedia at all. I am going to add the template again, could you please inform me if you object to this measure?
By the way, over the last half-hour you have been beating me over and over again at reverting vandalism in the RC. Well done! ;)
Manfi (talk) 18:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem at all, but sorry for messing up your talk page! That must have been some kind of glitch, because I can't figure out how I did it. Manfi (talk) 18:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
No worries - we're all human using computers... between the two, mistakes are going to get made! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey
That was not vandalizing this page. I was just supporting our school team.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevil 93 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Unsigned
please don't undo the correct information that was posted on The 88's wiki page—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.126.130.196 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks from 66.192.111.26
I'm going to remove my request to move the pages.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.111.26 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Why are u deleting it?
Why are you deleting my edit on the Chris Trousdale page???
I know for a fact he likes to sing at that bar. I am the bouncer at that bar and he sings there every single Friday that he is in town!
Whats the deal here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupe13 (talk • contribs) 08:40, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Have you got any reliable sources showing that information? If not, your word is not sufficient for Wikipedia, which needs verifiable evidence (and verifiable does not mean that I can go along and see for myself!). Find reliable sources (e.g. mentions in newspapers) then you can add the information. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Do you want me to give u his cell number?? Call him yourself and ask him where he has sang karaoke every friday night for the last few months..—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupe13 (talk • contribs) 08:45, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
No, I would like you to find references to this in newspaper articles or other reliable sources (how would I be able to verify that any number you gave me was his?) If you can provide these, then the article can mention it. If you can't, then it can't be mentioned in the article. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
From the article: "Another Greek word for an effeminate man is μαλακός – malakos (literally "soft")". If you disagree with this, discuss it on the talk page of the article -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:51, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
What!
How dare you say i was vandalizing, it was my own user page i was trying to sort!--(IP address removed) 09:19, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
The actual editor was:
DoughnutheadDrop a lineWhat i've done 19:45, 17th September
2009 (UTC)
If that is the case, you need to sign in and edit it. Any IP that removes information from a registered user's pages would generally be counted as vandalising the page. Log in, and then no one will think that! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Taco Ockerse is my most important artist. He asked me to change this side, what I am trying since yesterday.
Maybe I am doing a mistake, but my changes always are deleted.
Please, tell me what I am doing wrong!
Best regards
--Roland Colerus 10:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
To sign a comment, just add ~~~~ at the end of your comment and your user name and date/time will be added.
The information you added has not got any indication of where it came from (using reliable sources. You also have a Conflict of Interest. I looked but could not find any reliable sources of information about Taco (newspaper reports, etc) - please note that Taco's own website is not counted as a reliable source of information according to Wikipedia's guidelines). While the information you add is not sourced (for example, from a national newspaper - it doesn't have to be in English, we can get translations of newspaper articles), it isn't correct to add it to the article. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Taco (musician)
Hi Phantomsteve,
what kind of source will be needed to prevent my changes being deleted?
I really don't know what to do!
Best regards
--Roland Colerus 10:35, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Roland.
As you will know, I withdrew my nomination for the article to be deleted.
To ensure that any information you add will be kept, you need to make sure that they are sourced from reliable sources.
If you find a book, magazine, newspaper article, etc that you want to use as a reference, just type one of the following after the information in the article which the reference is about:
Newspaper/Magazine article:
<ref>''Title of article'',author of article, (Title of newspaper/magazine, date of article, page(s), column(s))</ref>
Book:
<ref>''Title of book'', author of book, (publisher, date of publication, page(s))</ref>
Website:
<ref>[http://web-page-address ''Title of webpage''], author of page, date of page's creation, website name</ref>
For example:
John Smith was appointed by the UN as an ambassador to Mars in June 1986.<ref>''An article in a well-known newspaper'', John E. Beegood, (The New York Times, 1 August 1987, page 6 col 2)</ref>
John Smith is regarded as a world expert on creating references.<ref>''How do I create references?'', Met-al Icca, (Heinemann Publishing, 1964, pp. 16-17)</ref>
While a known as a world-respected physicist, Smith is also a well-known skier who has participated in the Olympic Games representing Patagonia.<ref>[http://www.a-reputable-website.org/a_useful_page.html ''How to Create Useful References''], PhantomSteve, 12 March 1999, a-reputable-website.org</ref>
Then at the bottom of the page, make sure you have the following two lines:
==References== <references/> -or- {{reflist}}
This would generate (for the above examples):
John Smith was apointed by the UN as an ambassador to Mars in June 1986.[1]
John Smith is regarded as a world expert on creating references.[2]
While a known as a world-respected physicist, Smith is also a well-known skier who has participated in the Olympic Games representing Patagonaia.[3]
References
^An article in a well-known newspaper, John E. Beegood, (The New York Times, 1 August 1987, page 6, col 2)
^How do I create references?, Met-al Icca, (Heinemann Publishing, 1964, pp. 16-17)
Am I correct you removed the section "Coping statements" from Panic Attack?
Last night in the middle of one I came to my bookmarked page so I could help my self through the attack and this list wasn't there.
Sometimes our edits may affect others. --FrankTownend (talk) 11:33, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi.
You are not correct! I didn't remove the section you mention from that article. The only edit I have ever made (at 18:30, 18 September 2009) reverted the sentence "Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder which primarily consists of the fear of experiencing a difficult or embarrassing explosive diarahea situation" to "Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder which primarily consists of the fear of experiencing a difficult or embarrassing situation"
The version you are referring to was at the latest this one where that section was removed at 22:32, 21 July 2009 with the edit summary "Other treatments: removing this entire section. these are not different; they're all standard cognitive-behavioral techniques; CBT is already covered.)"
You are right that edits may affect others, but in this case the editor considered the coverage in the article Cognitive behavioral therapy covered the same ground. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia's aims do not include giving medical advice - that is the job of a trained GP or qualified counsellor. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your response Steve.
I had some difficulty determining the editor so I wanted my comment to be considered "friendly". Thank you for taking it that way. You are also totally correct the goal of Wikipedia is not in giving medical advice. Strange thing about Panic Attacks in that because they are often 'self generated', they can sometime be stopped through repeating a simple list of calming statements. Thanks for responding, all the best! --FrankTownend (talk) 12:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
If you have this version bookmarked, you'll always have the page with the list you were looking for - that's a permanent link to that version. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
SFL
Why did you reverse my SFL. Because it says 2007/08 season and I changed it to 2009/10 season —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.189.72.25 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, a mistake on my part! I have reverted it. I have also removed the warning from your talk page. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Experimenting
Hey, i'm new to wikipedia, and it may take me some time before i'm able to create a proper article, i was experimenting, so if you;d be kind enough to remove the tag for deletion of an article and give me some time after which you can make your decision.
Hi Siddharth and welcome to Wikipedia. May I suggest that you experiment on a user page of your own, such as User:Siddinowiki/Sandbox (just click on the link to create it). I don't know which article that you created was tagged for deletion - I assume that it was Vish sastry rachakonda. That article was blanked by its creator, and that is generally a sign that the creator wants it deleted. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help.
I look forward to contributing more articles that are just right, to quote you.
Siddinowiki (talk) 12:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem! Shark96z (talk) 13:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks from NERIC-Security
Thank you for reverting the recent edits from 163.153.32.5. The district report that they "identified the accounts used to make the edits and informed the respective building administrators. The students will be banned from accessing the internet for a minimum of 5 weeks." --NERIC-Security (talk) 17:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sadly, while it asks for confirmation for reverting edits by whitelisted users, it doesn't do the same about warning them.. I thik I'll request it.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I've put some new information on how to do this at Help talk:Template, in case you're still interested and haven't worked it out yet.--Kotniski (talk) 14:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that, Kotniski! I'll try that out when I get a chance, but it looks promising. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Huggle: Gold
Hi. This edit to Gold is certainly not vandalism, so it shouldn't have been reverted with Huggle, meaning without a descriptive edit summary. I have reverted to the IP's version as the clarification is useful if you read the paragraph (it is not obvious to lay persons that it is the only gold isotope, not the only isotope at all, that decays in that manner). If you have another reason to remove the insertion of the word gold in that sentence, you certainly may remove it, but please explain why. Thank you. TheSeeker 4Talk 15:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
You were quite right to revert that - sorry, I misread the sentence and thought the word "gold" was superflous - but in fact it is necessary! Incidently, I didn't issue a warning - but you are correct, I shouldn't have reverted using Huggle, as this was not vandalism (I would normally have just done a manual edit, but didn't this time). Thanks for contacting me about this! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:48, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
I beg to differ. In the article James Monroe, you replaced the section "early years" with the statement "james monroe was a president...." - which was already mentioned in the first paragraph (in more detail than your sentence) and is also mentioned later on in the article. This is counted as vandalism. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
A question
As you can see I'm editing the FC Zwolle page. I would like to add the competition results. I would like to use the Vertical Lines like on the Dutch Page [2] (See the link). My question is, what is the template used on the English wikipedia to create these vertical lines? -- RamonP 18:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi RamonP.
Firstly, you need to alter your signature so that the bold ends at the end of your user name! Just change it to:
-- '''[[User:RamonP|RamonP]]'''
Although it would be nice to have a link in your sig that goes straight to your talk page!
This dude is constantly editing my work adding lewd or offensive content. Now he is editing my user page. He has had enough warnings to be blocked but I do not know what template to use could you take a look please.
Jasenm222 (talk) 18:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Nate02343 (talk·contribs) has received a couple of warnings, but although they have done a few vandalism edits, they have only just got to the stage where another warning would trigger a block request. The user has received 3 warnings, but the last one was about 5 hours ago, so a request at WP:AIV would be declined. I'd just leave it for now - if they come back and do more within the next few hours, they would be listed for Admin intervention anyway. The important thing is that they vandalism was reverted. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank youJasenm222 (talk) 19:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I've redirected this article to the main article about the city itself, and left a notice on the creator's talk page. As this circumvents the need for deletion, I find it preferable; however, the creator of the article has undone the redirect several times. If you see that the redirect has been undone again, I'd ask that you replace it. Thanks. GlassCobra 20:43, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I have also left a message on the creator's talk page, but they have ignored it. I don't want to get into a 3RR situation - I'm tempted to go straight to an AfD - and then someone (hint hint) can suggest the redirect there! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Need your assistance
Hello, the PODS (company) page was marked by an anonymous IP as an advert recently. It's the same people who was causing issues previously. I wanted to see if you can jump in on the discussion. It's become rather annoying. Additionally, the user PODs Watch continues to harass myself and has vandalized the PODS page.
Hi Twalters82. As it's a one-off (at the moment), there's not much that can be done. If it happens a lot, then you can apply to have the page semi-protected, but at the moment it wouldn't be. With regard to User:PODs Watch, I can see that they have once altered the PODS (company) article, and three edits to your page - all to explain why they have proposed files for deletion (2 times) or why they removed a section from the article on the other occasion. I see no harrassment there (that user has a total of 11 edits - the 3 to your page, the 1 to the PODS (company) page, 4 file-deletion-related edits, 2 to their own pages and one to the Richards Group article). Only one of these could be regarded as vandalism - the PODS (Company) redirection - all the others appear to be valid edits. You might not like the proposals for deletion of the two images, but the editor is within their rights to propose them for deletion, even though I don't think they will get deleted.
I would not classify PODs Watch's behaviour as "harassment" - they have only vandalised the PODS page once, and has not had any direct interaction with you other than to let you know that they were proposing files for deletion.
Incidently, when you leave a message on a talk page, sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~ at the end, as this will automatically add your user name and date/time, like this: -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Phantomsteve --Twalters82 (talk) 23:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Port Harcourt article vandalized
Hi there. Would you pls take a look at this article? There's a user who first edited via IP, and then even though you reverted his edit, the IP edits continued vandalising the page. Few hours later a new user appeared, & continued vandalising the page adding unsourced material. This seems to be a case of a member of a nigerian minority group laying claim on a city which fell into the property of the Federal Nigerian troops during the Biafra-Nigeria war. Amsaim (talk) 00:28, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I've tidied it up, but as I know nothing about Port Harcourt, I wouldn't necessarily know what to remove! It might be an idea to leave a message at both the article's talk page and at WikiProject Nigeria's talk page, as there will be people with more knowledge about this than myself! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:18, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
thanks very much for cleaning up the article. the way the article has been vandalized, calls for the assistance of an admin, in order to protect the page. Amsaim (talk) 12:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi from 80.176.142.202
You were just very quick to note my vandalism, well done! However you may want to look closer at the pages for Lundwood and Penistone, they contain very subtle lies! Find them if thou be able nobleman! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.142.202 (talk • contribs) 12:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I am user:AS1S1SA1AA. I just kind of forgot my password (lol). For the template, I was trying to edit a few templates to use Infobox Settlement, as I already did for Italy, France, Germany and a few more. But somehow, not everyone seems to appreciate my efforts…--93.45.59.26 (talk) 16:01, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I have no problems, as I could see it was not vandalism, and logic dictated that you were AS1S1SA1AA! Incidently, have you read "What if I forget the password?" - as long as you signed up with an e-mail address, you can get a temporary password sent to the registered email address. If you didn't, then may I suggest you create a new account - then let me know your new account name and I'll move the template to your new user space! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately it's the second case – thank you for your help, but it appears that my template-editing days are nearing an end.--93.45.59.26 (talk) 16:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Simple English Wikipedia
Thanks for the link - it inspired me to help out there a bit. (Or is it "help a bit out there", or "help out a bit there"? Ahh, English is too complicated!) 20:47, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad that I've inspired someone today! (Although I'm sure my two little ones would say I did, if they understood the concept!). Keep up the good work! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Your Guidance Requested
Hi Phantomsteve, it's newbie Wikipedia user tanyavansoest here again. I've been off-site taking care of my day job but recently got back on here to try my hand at editing and contributing my first article. You'd offered previously to have a look at my draft which is up on my user page. I'd love to get your opinion on how you think it reads. Many thanks in advance. Tanyavansoest (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. It's late, and I'm going to look at it tomorrow, when I'm more awake. Incidently, I found relatively few independent, reliable sites mentioning it - but I have found a few other refs which you might use! More tomorrow (or Wednesday, depending on when I have time to give it justice!) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Steve, you rock! Thanks so much for your support. Navigating my way through the ins and outs of Wikipedia seems a whole lot nicer when there are senior editors out there willing to lend a hand. Hope you had a good rest and I will look forward to your feedback and ideas soon. Tanyavansoest (talk) 03:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Phantomsteve. Just wanted to let you know that I removed the speedy tag, as there appeared to be a valid stub in the page history. [3] Regards, Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 03:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and thanks for your reversions to my user page. It's appreciated! Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 04:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the Williams article - I didn't look back far enough! As for your user page, no worries - I'm sure you'd do the same if you notice my user page being vandalised! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
Hello and thank you for reverting vandalism on my talk page. I should thank people who do that more often. LovesMacs (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
You are very welcome! I'm sure you'll do the same for me if the opportunity arises! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism
Stop beating to me to reverting! :) --ScythreTalkContribs 15:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
lol... it's amazing how the same names keep showing up as reverting, eh? Keep up the good work, Scythre! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm off to get a coffee and cigarette, so now's your opportunity to do some reverting -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Re: Warnings
And I'm really sorry about all the warns using Huggle.. :( --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
No worries - as I said before, it happens if two editors go to revert an article in Huggle near enough at the same time! You noticed a mistake was made, it was remedied - end of story! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I see that you reverted my vandalism, but now your counters are each off by one. I just wanted to make sure that you don't have an inaccurate count of vandalism. Thanks! kmccoy(talk) 01:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
On my User Page, I hadn't missed 1 count of vandalism, but 2! On this page, I hadn't missed 1 count, but 6. I have now corrected them - but although I understand that you were trying to be helpful, I think it is up to me to decide when to update my counter, and by how much. I don't mind an editor who has reverted vandalism to my page themselves updating it (although that hasn't happened before), but I don't think a non-involved editor (even a sysop) should change my counter. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Don't get your panties in a twist. I was really just playing a little game with you, because by changing the counter on your userpage I was vandalizing it, which means that it should have been reverted. But by reverting it, you were saying that the number I changed it to was wrong, but since I had vandalized, it was actually right. But if you left my edit alone, then it wasn't vandalism, and so then the vandalism counter userbox was wrong! It's a paradox! I'm surprised the entire universe didn't collapse right there. This could have been more dangerous than the LHC. kmccoy(talk) 19:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, but the thing is - I didn't count it as vandalism per se, just a little joke! So as it didn't count as vandalism, so I reverted it... so the universe was safe (until the LHC goes online properly) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Beauty Sleep?
Hi Steve, I'm wondering if you've had your beauty sleep and are ready to share your brilliant insights/reference finds you mentioned in your last message to me? I'm very curious to know what you stumbled across. Thank you. 116.12.246.193 (talk) 06:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, you do know that you weren't logged in when you left that message?
As for 'beauty sleep' - even if I slept for the next 100 years, I t wouldn't help - me and beauty ain't bosom buddies!
Anyway, I have looked at the article, tidied it up a bit, wikified it a bit, found a few citations and added a little bit more information.
I am still concerned that the conference would still not be counted as notable enough for Wikipedia. I had great difficulty finding sources of information which were not on the event's website (so, not an independent source of information) or which were not press releases (i.e. from the company, so again, not independent).
With the references that I found and added, they are all press releases (PR Newswire only do press releases from companies!).
If you are happy with how the article is now (I don't think I'll find any more sources of information), then I can move it to the main article space - let me know. I've done as much as I can at the moment - it would be enough to prevent it being speedily deleted, and if an editor tried to Propose for Deletion, I would object to that. Whether it would survive a Articles for Deletion discussion I don't know.
Let me know if you want me to move it to the main article space. I've also left a message at your registered account in case you remember to log in next time! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi again. Thank you for the incredibly kind and unexpected support. I like what you've done with the article. Was it also you who flagged the article for improvement? WRT to publishing the article, the next event is coming up soon (November 16-20) and there will almost certainly be international media coverage on the event which we could include. In light of this, I'm tempted to wait for fear that the article will be deleted as is. If we did move to publish it now, and it got deleted, what implications will this have if we try again down the road?? BTW: how does the TalkBack function work? If I want to post something in response to what you've written on my page but flag it on yours, do I manually need to come over and post a talkback message? Tanyavansoest (talk) 09:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure who flagged it for improvement - that happened before it was userfied, so it doesn't show on the history. I have removed the "wikify" tag, as the article has been sufficiently wikified to not need that! However, I kept the notability tag, as I feel that more reliably sourced information is needed to prove its notability (as mentioned above).
Personally, I would put the article into the main article space. It is safe from immediate deletion - it could be discussed as an Article for Deletion (AfD), but even if that happened, the worst that could happen is that it is suggested that it be deleted - and we ask for it to be userfied again, and try again in November after the event has received the publicity you think it will.
If it was deleted, there is no reason why it could not be recreated at a future date if additional sources of information could be added from reliable sources. I have a backup on my computer if it's ever needed!
My thinking would be to go for it! If it gets put up for AfD, we'll deal with that as and when. However, it is your choice - but bear in mind that during the event, people may well look on Wikipedia for an article about it! Yes, there is a possibility of deletion. Yes, there is a possiblity of vandalism to the article - but there are plenty of editors who look out for vandalism using various tools (as I do), so I'm not overly worried about that. As a neutral editor, I'm happy to do what I can do, even though I do not know much about this event!
With regard to talkbacks... if you leave a message for an editor on your talk page (so that a conversation can be kept together), you have to manually add a talkback on their talk page. Make a note of the section title (e.g. for this section, the title is Beauty Sleep?) and then add on their talk page the following: {{talkback|your-user-name|section-title}}. The 5 tildes add the date/time stamp. Examples:
{{talkback|Phantomsteve|Beauty Sleep?}} gives
Hello, Phantomsteve. You have new messages at Phantomsteve's talk page. Message added 10:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
When you have read the message indicated by the talkback, there are two options
Just remove the talkback tag completely
Change the tag to {{tld|talkback|....}} (e.g. in the above you would change it to {{tld|talkback|Phantomsteve|Beauty Sleep?|ts=~~~~~}}, which would give:
{{talkback|Phantomsteve|Beauty Sleep?}}
The latter is the one I use, so that the talkback is still seen on the page (and the archives), but without the links
Let me know what you want to do with the draft article - as I say, I'd put it onto main space, but it's your choice! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Steve, thank you SO much for all your support and patience in explaining how things work and your position with regard to processes etc. It's very refreshing to have access to good council when first getting started here.
Having taken all your comments into consideration, I would like to take you up on your offer to publish the article. I will continue to keep my eyes open for additional references and be sure to update the article as they come in.
BTW, where does the article in its current "userfied" state sit if it's not on my user account? I don't get the whole "userfication" thing...oh yes, and thanks for the "talkback" explanation. Much appreciated.
I hope you have a great weekend. Oh, yes and could you please send me a quick message when the article goes live and then I will update the image as well which was removed? Thank you!! 116.12.246.193 (talk) 09:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC) Oops!! I was logged out! Tanyavansoest (talk) 09:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I have moved it! see Singapore International Energy Week. It is on my watchlist, so I'll keep an eye on it! As regards "userfication", that just means that it is put in User page (i.e. User:xxxx) rather than in the main article space. When the article is in the main article space, it is no longer userfied. Have a good weekend. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Warnings...
Greetings Phantomsteve. As you left two warning templates over at the user's talk page, warnings which were worded in such a way as to suggest you are an admin., I just popped in here to request you to block User talk:87.36.4.7. Seeing that that is not the case, am now slightly concerned that such strongly worded warnings could be interpreted as "empty" and have the effect of challenging users intent on vandalising articles to seeing how quickly they will get blocked. Am off to request a block elsewhere, but would appreciate feedback on this one. Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 13:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I should point out that I am not admin - the warning left is a standard one. A final warning was given at 11:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC), but then no further disruptive edits occurred in the followign 24 hours, so no further action was taken. When the next disruptive edit was made at 13:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC) (just before your message was left here), the IP was blocked for 1 week by an admin.
In this case, as soon as further disruptive editing was made, a report was made, and a block in force within 16 minutes. However, should no further disruptive edits have been made after the final warning, then there is no reason to block a school IP such as this, as this might affect legitimate editors using the school's computers. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Greetings Phantomsteve - Thanks for your reply. Please don't think I was having a "go" at you - I was just "voicing" my concern and needed some feedback on it. I realise that it's a standard warning (Huggle, if I remember correctly), but it worries me that such a stern warning may be perceived as meaningless by a user intent on continuing to be disruptive/vandalise if not followed up by an actual block, however short.
In the present case, a block was made by an admin at my request, not because the page was being monitored, so that 16-minutes admin response time becomes a meaningless statistic. I've come across several cases of multiple vandal edits being made in a much shorter space of time before being knocked on the head.
Bona fide users wishing to edit from a school or other multiple IP address can get around blocks by registering, so I don't see any real inconvenience in blocking disruptive users after a reasonable number of warnings. The 3R rule springs to mind here - Wikipedia is inflexible on this - and that's blocking registered editors. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 17:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
The problem is that if someone gets their final warning, then unless they go on to do more disruptive editing within the next 24 hours, they'll probably not get blocked. If I see someone on a final warning, then using Huggle, the next one will automatically report it - whether the reviewing admin will block them is up to them. To be honest, I'm not sure what the solution is - vandalism patrol can only do so much! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:33, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks and would like to know ...
Just want you to know:
1. I read your last post on my talk page
2. Thanks for inviting questions (in general) from me. You will get questions as time passes.
3. I'm sorry to see you've been vandalized -- what is up with this?
4. Is there a method of communicating that does not require use of Wikipedia talk pages? (They are too slow and threads aren't as easy to follow as in other methods, like email).
Kernel.package (talk) 17:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
It is possible to use e-mail if the account is set up for it, but I tend not to use it myself for Wikipedia. The confusion caused by having some messages no one talk page, and responses on another is why I tend to keep the discussion on one page! As for vandalism, I've been doing a lot of vandalism patrol, so you come to expect retaliation! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:29, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks :) I didn't notice that. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 13:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Original section heading: Diamond film can be a Dutch film award or a film made of diamonds, which actaully exists, and perhaps other things.
Perhaps there is a better way to handle the multiple meanings I was just moving Diamond Film to Diamond Film (award). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo8rge (talk • contribs) 14:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
A film made of diamonds - at the moment, there's no article about that - and if it was to be mentioned anywhere, it would be a minor mention in the Diamond article - at the moment, the only mention there is in the titles of some of the references. At the moment, there is no need for Diamond Film (award) as the current Diamond Film article will suffice. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:25, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I have redirected the Diamond Film (award) article to Diamond Film, If anyone creates an article about the film made of diamonds, then they can sort out what happens, but I don't think there's enough information to make an article about that. I have removed the warning from your talk page, as I misunderstood what you were trying to do, and thought it was vandalism. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Stupid Steve :(
hello sir
i just was editing Princes Risborough to say that i was a notable resident, you can take a look at my web site www.stupidsteve.co.uk and i was the british shin kicking champion, so maybe if im not a notable person from good old risborough maybe i could put myself some where else on the page as there isn't much in princes risborough at the moment, and its a lovely place
Unfortunately, unless you can provide evidence that you are notable according to the criteria that Wikipedia uses (and not from your own website, but from reliable, independent, sources), then you cannot be added as a notable resident. As it stands, I do not see that Shin Kicking is notable enough for inclusion (although there is a picture of it on the Cotswold Games article, and a couple of links at the bottom of that article). I'm afraid that at the moment, The Bulldog does not qualify for inclusion! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Shin Kicking and more
That picture is me, I put it there my mate took it, who also lives in Princes Risborough,
if you watch the videos on my site you can see me winning :D I have put a link to the videos on the costwold site too as it says next the the claim that i won that a Citation needed
I got dragged across the english channel as well on an inflateable banana, thats on
Thanks for your response to my question. You are correct on the user name, I used it because I didn't want my name to appear in the title of the article. I will change it, but wonder how the pages Department of Energy, FEMA, TEEX, and others have as a user name as they are partners with us.
Does the user name appear with the title of the articule?
NNSA CTOS (talk) 15:27, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
The user name does not appear on the title of the article. However, editors may feel that you have a conflict of interest going by your user name. All edits are shown on the history of the article (if you click on the history tag you will see this), so although your user name doesn't show on the title of the article, it will show in the history. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. There isn't any copyright infringement since I work for the Department of Energy and the agency supporting the article. I will work on rewriting the article, I was really following the same content flow as others I have seen on Wikipedia which we are partners with for training first responders.
192.100.51.131 (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm assuming that you are connected with the user above (did you accidently log out?) I didn't raise the point of copyright, someone else on the Help Desk raised that point. As they said, as the text is lifted from this website, and the disclaimer page clearly shows that the CTOS NNSA website is directly connected to the Dept of Energy, so there would probably be no copyright problems - the fact that you work for them is neither here nor there!
Just in case you are not the same user as that above, I am leaving you a welcome message on your talk page with some useful links - I would suggest that you read them, as they'll give guidance on what is and is not acceptable on a Wikipedia entry. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Tech draw tools
Hello, and thanks for a warm receive.
I'm going to translate the whole article (if no-one else happens to step in to help), and I'm willing to translate the possible image captions from Finnish, too. I'm not any expert on the exact subject of this article, but using my common knowledge. The final English text needs naturally to be checked by someone (also the comments in.. hmm, "code"!), but I hope my contribution is worth of smth.
I could master English much better, but I'm confident that some native speaker (you?) is able to make it to a nice article :-).
Nice autumn from Finland --J. Sketter (talk) 18:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the work you are doing! It's on the list of articles for further translation work, so hopefully others will look at it too! I think your use of comments on the article was useful! I'm going to look at the images on the Finnish Wikipedia, and see which ones can be put on this one (I've got to check out copyrights etc). Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
I checked and found that all the images were on Commons, so can be used directly! I have now added them to the article. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Very good. I think that I've done all I can for the article now. There are notes if someone is really interested in those few uncertain terms. You could consider replacing the template with some "clean-up | language" -type one.
"I have written the truth as I see it... in finnish wikipedia!". --J. Sketter (talk) 05:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Create a page in the main encyclopedia
How do I create my page in the main content and not on a subpage. I rewrote the pager per your previous email, but now am unsure where to put it.
NNSA CTOS (talk) 19:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
It needs to be 'moved' - but as you are not yet autoconfirmed you cannot do it at the moment. I have taken this as a request to move it, so have done so. I also see that you have requested a change of user name - hopefully you'll get a response about this soon. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
i aint dun nout rong blud
safeee —Preceding unsigned comment added by IRHardcore (talk • contribs) 10:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
You vandalised the article on Desmond Tutu, as well as this page when you got a warning about that. Edit contructively, and you'll not have any problems. If you continue to vandalise articles and pages, you will receive further warnings and/or a block from editing. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Julius Zimmerman
Hi there. Thanks for the input regarding the User:Matt Deres/Zimmerman article. I had planned on doing some deep searches for good sources, but just haven't had the time due to that pesky real-life thing intruding on valuable wiki-time. Although it's userfied and in some vague sense more "mine" than a normal article, please feel free to work on it should you have the time/inclination. Porn-related topics are difficult to write about on WP; on the one hand, it seems easy enough for a porn starlet to meet the notability criteria (it's not like the movies take a long time to produce ;-), yet it's hard to write proper articles for stuff that you "know" to be important based on experience. Should Mr Zimmerman's article ever make it back into the fold, maybe I'll try "Meriday in the Morning" next; easily the most famous, most widely disseminated, ASCII porn ever made, but there's not a lot to say about it in a referenced article. Anyway, thanks for the note and the help! Matt Deres (talk) 00:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Target Center
doese have a green roof it was installed this past summer. your reversal on 9-17 was not necessary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.169.161.1 (talk) 21:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
You are quite right - it was announced on 15th September. I apologise! I have removed the warning from your talk page. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:50, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Peter! I'm going to go and amend my !vote now, as the condition I had for this being kept has been met. Well done on finding the information :D -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help & Info on MMA Trainer Page info/bio
Your information helped me a great deal.. this is not exactly a cookie cutter thing to do is it? LOL I'm not computer illiterate (actually have my degree many many many moons ago) but have never worked with this Wiki style, etc.
I'm trying to get a few things gathered to start the bio for him, see what he thinks, get facts, etc. & once I do that perhaps I could bug you again for how to get it all "posted" and come up when 'searched'? But that will be a while! LOL
Thanks for contacting me. I think your idea of finding information first and then trying to create an article. Please bear in mind that one of the things that we need is information from independent, third-party reliable sources. Feel free to contact me when you have the information, and we can see what we can do - I'm happy to help in whatever way I can. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
why?
why are you editing my stuff and removing my comments? there was nothing wrong with it, phantom dude! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roadrash21 (talk • contribs) 22:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Ahem [5] There was something wrong with them.Tim1357 (talk) 02:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Also, [6] and [7]. Making such changes (which are not constructive, but destructive) are vandalism. Hopefully, any future edits you make will be constructive. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:57, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Why has this been removed? Do you know for a fact that these are not her favourite foods? I can prove imperically that they are, I was just searching for a link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.117.120 (talk) 17:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
If you can find a reliable source of information confirming the fact, then feel free to re-add it. However, when I did a quick search I didn't find anything to confirm it. As a rule, on biographical articles such as this, unsourced information is removed until reliable sources can be found, even for minor items like this. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:09, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
BBC iplayer links
87.115.12.176 (talk) 14:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC) On Life (BBC TV series)'s history page you said: (removing BBC iPlayer links - firstly, only UK can see these, secondly, each episode is only available for one week after broadcast). Some episodes are available for more than one week. 87.115.12.176 (talk) 14:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Some programmes are indeed available for longer, but these particular ones are only available for 1 week (for example, the first episode broadcast 13th September is available until 20th September). -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Vandalism to Hinder wiki
I was dropping by the Hinder wiki to check some things only to find it's been vandalized by some apparently zealous Cannibal Corpse fans. Not sure who the admin is for this page, but noticed you'd had several posts in its history, and thought you might be someone to notify.
W1LDC4l2D (talk) 15:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)W1LDC4l2D
Pages don't have admins responsible for them - admins watch over any pages they come across or subjects that they are interested in! In the same way, many non-admins revert vandalism, as they patrol pages looking for vandalism. My only contribution to the Hinder article was to revert two instances of vandalism, using a tool called Huggle which makes this easier. I see that the vandalism which has recently occurred has been reverted. Looking at the history of the article, it is not of a sufficiently high level to mean that the page needs to be protected. Most vandalism on Wikipedia gets caught - some within seconds, some within hours, some within days - I've come across some subtle vandalism which has taken weeks to discover - but most gets caught reasonably quickly.
Incidently, it's not the Hinder wiki - it's the Hinderarticle, on the English Wikipedia. A wiki is any website that uses Wiki software, of which Wikipedia is an example.
As Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, you can edit the article yourself to remove any incorrect information or vandalism. Please note that the two are not the same! Also, note that if a piece of information in an article has a source which is reliable which the source confirms, it should not be removed. If the information is not sourced and is incorrect, it can be removed. If the information is sourced, but the source does not verify the information (I've seen that happen), then it can be removed.
Two bits of advice though:
Before adding/removing anything major or potentially controversial, check the article's Talk Page - there may be mention there about it. Also, if you are going to do a major change, it is polite to leave a message on the talk page and let the regular editors of the article know what you plan on doing - and give them time to respond!
If there is persistent vandalism by the same editor (you can see who has edited by clicking on the History tab), this can be reported at WP:AIV.
I've contacted the closing admins and movers of the AFDs in question (or those who are still active). It's actually common for AFDs to be deleted if they are about BLPs since the AFD's often contain negative comments which might be damaging or hurtful in real life. Usually they are simply deleted by a senior admin as a courtesy deletion. Senatrix (talk) 17:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment, and for contacting the relevant editors/admins. I disagree on two on them that there are BLP concerns (the fact that people say that a living person is not notable enough for inclusion is not a BLP concern - it is not saying that the person is not notable, just not notable by the criteria used by Wikipedia). The other one has more potential to have BLP issues: I'll read it more carefully before making my !vote on the AfD (when I will also cast my !vote on the other two, after re-reading those AfDs as well). Incidently, did you used to edit under another name before you started using Senatrix? I've not often seen editors with 43 days experience starting MfDs, let alone ones that concern AfDs which are 2 and 4 years old! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:57, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shane Ruttle Martinez
I think you're mistaken; the history shows no further edits after I closed it. Steve Smith (talk) 12:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
The blanking was to the AfD the MfD was about - see this diff. The discussion didn't say that it should be blanked, and the blanking was done as a 'favour' - I believe that as the MfD didn't agree to blank the AfD, it should be reverted to the version before the blanking. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:30, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
mistake?
i think you made a mistake: never been on the article for collective nouns of birds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.151.136 (talk) 12:56, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
You personally may not have edited the List of collective nouns for birds page, but someone on the IP you are currently using (which is a BT Broadband IP) did at 12:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC). As the IP you are using is one of the ones that BT Broadband assign to any of their users, someone else using BT Broadband was obviously using it at the time. To prevent future occurences, I would suggest that you create an account, which has a number of benefits, one of which is that your user name is associated with any edits you make, rather than the IP, preventing such confusion!
The edit in question is the only edit made using that IP (other than the message you left above) - unless any other contributions were deleted, which would not show on the user contributions for 86.129.151.136 list.
Sorry fur my retarded vandalism. Haha. I'll try stopping someother peoples instead XD. 86.40.190.168 (talk) 17:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Nia Lyte
Hello Phantomsteve,
Hope you are doing well. We have been contributing to wikipedia with reliable information for the past year. Nia Lyte is a new internet TV Talk Show host and one of the top web talk show hosts. How ever per her request she will like to delete her name from Wikipedia inmediately for two reasons:
1. The fact to question in public that her information is not true or false is an embarassement for her fan web site of 500,000 viewers. She does not have press agents at this time so everything is in the internet. She has a career as a host and the information published about her is true you can see this in her show. Live Video or Live Universe is owned by Brad Greenspan here s the proof for this, perhaps the team in Wikepedia did not do the proper research on internet hosts. She is the co-Founder of Shin Koyamada Foundation is in the official web site and she helps a lot of children around the world and raises money for different causes. How ever this deletion process and questioning of Nia's information can potentially damage her image and causes. For this reason we as to please delete ASAP this page and article of deletion until we have more press on her, magazine interviews. Maybe was too soon to add her to Wikepedia. But she is indeed a respectable and amazing human being and web talk show host.
You can also see in the home page she is always in the top 5 web shows every day.
2. It is very damaging to imply she did not tell the truth about her education as she did intern in the US Congress and published her first book at age 19. How ever all the press for this is in newspaper articles collected as proof.
So please understand why we will like to delete this page and she wants it delete it right away. People and fans google her name and then in wikepedia it appears is not true what she is saying when it is true. Also accusing of vandalism is a mayor offense knowing that all that we publish is correct if you see the track record.
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shinca (talk • contribs) 18:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. The Nia Lyte is currently being discussed for possible deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nia Lyte, where you are welcome to make a comment for keeping/deletion). However, removing the AfD information is counted as an act of vandalism, hence my warning on your talk page.
A couple of specific comments about what you wrote above:
No one is saying that the information is false - merely that there is no veriable sources confirming the information given - the citations given in the article at the moment do not verify the information. Wikipedia requires verifiable information from reliable sources, which at the moment has not been given.
LiveVideo may have been founded by Greenspan, but my understanding of it is that anyone can upload videos to it - so this would no more make Nia notable than if she was on YouTube. Also, when I looked at the home page, she's not listed in the top 5's I could see there - she's not on the first page of the most view "Today", "This Week", "This Month" or "All Time". The [8] link you gave above shows that she has 1797 subscribers; the 8 videos she has have a total of 422 views between them.
I can't see where it says anything to do with It is very damaging to imply she did not tell the truth about her education as she did intern in the US Congress and published her first book at age 19. - the article doesn't appear to say that she has lied about her education or internship - again, the references given in the article 'do not mention lyte - or there is a very minor mention - that is why there is a note that the information is not in the citation given.
Please note that a citation needed note does not mean that the information is false (or believed to be false) - merely that we need some kind of evidence from a reliable source.
Hope you are doing Well. I am contacting you regarding Wikipedia/Nia Lyte. Our company has been adding constructive material and articles to Wikipedia with verifiable information for the past year like for example Shin Koyamada, Paul Heller you can verify this. I am a new internet host with a show over 500,000 viewers and co-founder of the Shin Koyamada Foundation. The team decided to add me to Wikipedia but I will like to be removed ASAP for 2 reasons:
To imply in public in front of my fans, business clients that my information is not true is not right and is not good for my career or image. The information is true but there is not enough press on me or press releases. But you can see that have a show with over half a million viewers and also that Live Universe is indeed founded and CEO Brad Greenspan: you can also see I am the Co-Founder of The Shin Koyamada Foundation and I am a top internet host. All these was in question in public and my fans and business clients started to ask me what was happening.
To verify this you can go to the most viewed shows under entertainment, you saw the most viewed shows under people, they have different categories you need to click entertainment and you see my show there. To verify the views of my live show not videos as you saw you can go to my liveshow page and see under the archives there is 519,268 viewers so far. I was hired by Live Video to host a professional talk show to launch the web site how ever yes anyone can create shows or videos there but not everyone is a feature show and my show is. Perhaps we should wait to be in Wikipedia once there is more press releases and my TV Talk Show goes on air.
www.shinca.net
2. I deal in our company Shinca Productions in partnership with Paul Heller ( Producer of Enter the Dragon) & movie star Shin Koyamada ( The Last Samurai) also verifiable with high profile actors and business men. Also we do a lot of events with children and helping them through our foundation so to have this in wikipedia is unacceptable. Yes I did intern for the US Congress and yes I donate 15,000 books we have all this documented on news papers clips but again there is not enough press or reliable sources like you mentioned. And no is not vandalism either so please remove this from Wikipedia as is not right. I am a respectable career woman and negative comments or press can hinder my career and enterprises as well as those of my business partners. Perhaps was too soon to add me to Wikipedia.
I am sure you may have had people who did altered the truth but not our team so I think your team made a mistake on this one and that is ok. We will wait until there is more press releases and more fame in order to be in Wikipedia. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter and please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or my lawyers. I will like my name deleted from Wikipedia and any banners that this article is considered for deletion for truth misconception by Monday please. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Nia Lyte
President
Shinca Corporation
Email: <email address removed>
www.shinca.net <http://www.shinca.net> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shinca (talk • contribs) 18:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
No one is saying that the information is false - merely that there is no verification of the information, and indeed that the citations given do not show what the article says.
I would suggest that you read the links here: Verifiability and Reliable Sources. They show how the information in the article can have citations added that would be useful.
The tag [not in citation given] means precisely that: the reference given for the sentence/paragraph does not mention the information. It does not say [untrue].
The AfD "banner" makes no mention of the reason why it is being considered for deletion, but the AfD itself clearly states "Non-notable per WP:BIO, unreliable references per WP:RS which only mention subject in passing, can find nothing notable about subject in news search." as the reason for its nomination. Let me explain those:
"Non-notable per WP:BIO" means that using the criteria used on Wikipedia (at WP:BIO), Nia Lyte is not notable enough for inclusion
"unreliable references per WP:RS which only mention subject in passing" means that the references given do not confirm the information, or if they do mention the subject (i.e. Nia Lyte), it is a minor mention
"can find nothing notable about subject in news search" means that searches of News organisation websites (including, but not necessarily limited to, Google News Search) had no significant mentions of Nia Lyte.
Nowhere has anyone said that the information given is false, merely that the links given do not verify the information (or even mention Nia Lyte).
Regarding I will like my name deleted from Wikipedia and any banners that this article is considered for deletion for truth misconception by Monday please. - as nowhere mentions deletion for 'truth misconception' (as no one has said the information is untrue, merely not verified) you have misunderstood. The AfD will remain open for 7 days - so will be closed at or after Saturday 20th October 10:39 (UTC). If the concensus is to delete, then the article will be deleted. If the concensus is to keep, it will be kept. Personally, I would say to delete it, not because you want it deleted, but going by the criteria used on Wikipedia, you are not notable enough for inclusion.
I will not be contacting you with further questions (I have spent some time here explaining the situation), and in any event neither myself not anyone else will contact your lawyers. I assume that you are not making a legal threat. I'm not an expert in law, but I think any decent lawyer would point out that saying that a citation does not verify information does not mean the same as the information being false. I would point out that WP:No legal threats states If you make legal threats or take legal action over a Wikipedia dispute, you may be blocked from editing so that the matter is not exacerbated through other channels. Users who make legal threats will typically be blocked from editing while legal threats are outstanding.. Should such a threat be made, I would need to report it - but as I say, I do not feel that the above message constitutes such a threat.
I am sorry that you have misunderstood what is happening. Be reassured, no one is saying that any of the information is untrue, merely that it has not been verified using a reliable source from an independent, third-party source - and that the references given do not actually back up the information. Again, this is not the same as saying the information is false.
I noticed that you answered a question regarding uploading a logo. I have searched all of the help files and cannot figure out how to upload a logo for my company. All I could find was that you have to be autoconfirmed to upload images but it didn't say how to become autoconfirmed either. Could you please tell me how to become autoconfirmed or how to upload the image to Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgoforth (talk • contribs) 14:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
To be Autoconfirmed, your account has to have existed for more than 4 days (which yours has) and have at least 10 edits (which yours does not - it only has 3).
To upload an image to Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Uploading_images - but make sure that before you do any uploading, read the image use policy. It might also be useful to read Wikipedia:Logos as well. Logos fall under fair use - which means that they can be uploaded to Wikipedia, but not to Wikimedia Commons. The exception to this would be if your company specifically states on the website that the logo may be freely copied and used for any purpose whatsoever. Images on Wikipedia fall under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 and [[9]] licenses.
I hope this helps, but if you have further questions, feel free to contact me again. I may not be able to answer quickly at the moment - I'm in the middle of some family history research, and next week I'm away on holiday - but I will try to check my talk page several times a day this week, and hopefully from time to time next week. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
hello, I am Ana Tsereteli, daughter of Zurab Semyonovich Tsereteli. I want to expand an article and to add my fathers photo, but i can;t do it. Maybe you can help me. I am sending you the link on which i want to add photo and a link where uploaded photo exists:
I have corrected the link to the picture! All you needed was image = [[File:ZURAB 01.jpg]] -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Template parameters
Resolved
Hi,
Can you give mea example of how to set upa simple if statement for template and hwo to get teh parameters into the tmeplate and how to pass the ifnormation form the article to the template?--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
If you look at User:Phantomsteve/test-bed-template, I have set up a simple template which uses up to 3 named parameters (called first, second and third - simple names!)
To use it, I just use {{User:Phantomsteve/test-bed-template}} with parameters:
{{User:Phantomsteve/test-bed-template}} - no params given:
And that's it really! Without knowing exactly what is to be done, I can't do any more - but the code on my template shows how to create if statements to only show something if a parameter is present. Hope this helps -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:53, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
this should be enough for me ot get on with and hopefully workthe rest out. thanks for your help if i get stuck i will paste teh code itself--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
hello sorry for pesting oyu again i am struggling to get it to work, i think i am not to far off.
this is what i am doign with the template when testing
{{User:Andrewcrawford/test200|first=1}}
any help will be appericated. i also need to make another five instance of the code for other seasons but if i get the first one and maybe the second one the rest should be easy i am assuming you make seerpate if condiaiotn for each thing you trying to do? again thank you for oyur help--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 22:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll be honest - it's late, I'm tired, and I'm going offline soon. However, the first=1 in the template doesn't look right! Have a look at the templates Template:Ifequal, Template:ifeqall, Template:ifeqany or Template:ifor. I'm not sure if any of those are useful, but they might be. If I get a chance to, I'll look at your code tomorrow. Sorry I can't be of more help -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Dnt put yourself out for me, im grateful of the help but i am in no rush :)--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 22:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Just a thank you for your help i have finally figure it out and foudna way not to need ot use the if condition meaning the template never needs to be updated. Here is my final code.
Well done! I'm glad you found a way to do it - sorry I couldn't be more help! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
About your reply to me on the help page :
Thanks for your interest and reply (21th of oct.) on the help page. Since you will be away for a week, I will prefer to talk on this page. You state that you incline to agree with Tajik’s reasoning to revert my name edits , assuming that there is no reliable source. I assure you that there is no source problem. The problem is that Tajik seems to wrap all medieval Middle East cultural history into Persian history. While a great deal had been contributed by Persians, the Middle East history is not solely a Persian history.
Although, he has reverted a number of my edits, the following are especially important. (as they appear in Wiki) : Mahmud al-Kashgari and Ali-Shir_Nava’i. You can check those articles. Taking the risk of being rather boring, I’ll summerize why these names should also be shown in Turkish.
Mahmud al-Kashgari, (Turkish: Kaşgarlı Mahmut) He was a Turk and was writing in Turkish. In 11th century he wrote the first Turkish Arabic dictionary claiming Turkish to be as powerful of Arabic.
Ali-Shir Nava'i: (Turkish: Ali Şir Nevai) He was a Turkish poet of 15th century and was writing mostly in Turkish. (But he was living in Afganistan) Barry Hoberman calls him Caucer of the Turks.[1] He is studied in Turkey in secondary schools as one of the forerunners of Turkish literature.
I don’t try to change the names of the articles. I only want to add the Turkish names in parentesis by the template (Turkish: ...) I have the right to do so. But Tajik always reverts the editions an act which I feel is nothing but a loss of energy both for me and Tajik himself. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 12:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
You've caught me just before I go offline! If there are sources available for the alternative spellings of the names, then you need to cite them (I'll leave a reference about how to do this on your talk page). Incidently, the issue isn't whether these individuals are notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia - the issue is that you have added information without sources! I know nothing about this area, so I am unable to help out - but if sources are indeed available to show the alternative naming, then if these are cited there should be no problem with the information being added to the article. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I really appreciate your feedback on LinkedNow's article :) The irony is that I sincerely understand your motivation and enjoy working with energetic and passionate editors like yourself. Please also understand my frustration. One editor said that it maybe ok to keep the article 3 months ago, and now this issue is re-opened, again. What makes it worse is that I strongly feel that the article 'somewhat' meets the definition of notability.
Yet, our argument seems to span around these three issues: a) how recent is the news, b) how many unique sources, or c) how useful the site's business is. All, except 2 points seem to be irrelevant to the discussion of the notability. In fact, wikipedia does not discuss a + b anywhwere. However, it provides us with some general guidance for (c). Multiple as if "having or involving or consisting of more than one entity or individual"
Once again, Phantomsteve, thank you for your help and I am looking forward to working with you again :)
I have had to modify the template to a ifequal statement, similar to the episodelist subliust workings. however i think because it has a table in it with {| it is causing confussing to the if statement, if there anyway to get it to disregard the code and treat it like characters?
{{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|List of House episodes|{| class="wikitable" border="1" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
|- style="color:white"
! {{{colour}}} width="7%" | Episode #{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="15%" | Title{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="15%" | Director{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="23%" | Writer(s){{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="8%" | American viewers <br /> (in millions)
! {{{colour}}} width="6%" | Rank
! {{{colour}}} width="14%" | Original airdate{{{ref}}}|{| class="wikitable" border="1" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
|- style="color:white"
! {{{colour}}} width="7%" | Episode #{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="15%" | Title{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="15%" | Director{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="23%" | Writer(s){{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} width="8%" | American viewers <br /> (in millions)
! {{{colour}}} width="6%" | Rank
! {{{colour}}} width="14%" | Original airdate{{{ref}}}
! {{{colour}}} | Final diagnosis
}}
I'm getting ready to go away on holiday, so can't look at this properly, but the markup for | is {{!}} - try using that to see if that works. When I get back, if you are still having problems, let me know and I'll have another look at it. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 06:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed nearly unanimously with 174 in support, 2 in opposition and 1 neutral votes. Special thanks goes to RegentsPark, Samir and John Carter for their kind nomination and support. I am truly honored by the trust and confidence that the community has placed in me. I thank you for your kind inputs and I will be sincerely looking at the reasons that people opposed me so I can improve in those areas ( including my english ;) ). If you ever need anything please feel free to ask me and I would be happy to help you :). Have a great day ! -- TinuCherian - 04:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Plan 9 Publishing nominated for deletion
The Plan 9 Publishing article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. It was nominated for deletion by Guest9999 on 30 October. Because you have edited the article, I am bringing the matter to your attention in case you would like to either comment or improve the article to address the criticisms made of it.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. Netmouse (talk) 17:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I am writing in response to the notibility alert on Singapore International Energy Week's article. My colleague Tanya corresponded with you previously on this article.
There are a few references for your consideration that could be added to the list.
Thanks for those, Aaron. I have added those to the relevant sections of the article. Hopefully, when this year's SIEW takes place, you will get lots of mentions in reliable sources which can be added to the article. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt response and well wishes PhantomSteve!
Could you also advise me on what else I could provide to improve the notability of the article?
Aaron, the main reason for the doubt on the notability is that it's a new event! It only started last year, and this is the second occurance. However, as it stands, there is sufficient information that I have removed the "notability" tag - although this would not prevent another editor re-adding it should they feel it was necessary.
Basically, coverage of this year's event in reliable sources would help to show its notability, as will confirmation that the event will be held next year (also from reliable sources). -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Cleaning up of Editor Review
I also recently filed a request to be reviewed, but the project seems to be falling apart. So... I guess I'll go ahead and cleanup the project now before it gets even worse? (I have had previous experience cleaning up dying projects WP:ABUSE) It would be great to someone to work with, are you interested? Netalarmtalk 23:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I think I might be able to do this pretty fast, so please tell me what you think of it (feel free to help out =D) Netalarmtalk 23:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm going away for a week, so can't do anything for the next week (I've just quickly logged into Wikipedia to check messages, I might get a chance to tonight or in the morning, but if not this will be it until 2nd Nov!). When I get back, I intend on looking at some of the backlog that remains and doing some reviews. The thing with the reviews is that many editors do not know about it, and I think that most of the editors who do tend to be busy on Wikipedia! As I say, I'll do some reviews after my holidays. Once an editor has had 1 review, it will automatically be archived 30 days later, so if reviews get done then they will be archived within a month! However, I have removed aserisks from editors with a review - the ones I left were when the comments seemed like criticisms about one action rather than a review of overall actions. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 06:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I've started working on reviews - I'll try to get more done during the week! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks! I will be sure to keep you posted with new material for the references.
Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 06:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
From Ruger24
I am sorry mate, truly. But the change I made was correct. And I understand that he may have assumed that I was vandalizing some more but I wasn't. He should get his facts straight. The reason I edited his page is because I don't know how to send a proper message. If possible, could you tell me how to in return for me promising not to vandalize anymore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruger24 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
You send a message by editing his page, but you should not use abusive language. Your 2 edits on the The Hutchins School article were vandalism, as were your edits on the The Friends' School, Hobart and Special Forces (United States Army) articles. Your first edit on Utility Monster's page was vandalism, and your final edit there was a personal attack. With the exception of your edit to this page, none of your edits were constructive. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 01:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
From 67.121.145.89
Can you please stop editing the User:Yavari Govain page. It's not your page, it's in fact mine. Can you please stop? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.121.145.89 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
If that is indeed the case, I suggest that you sign in and then no one will revert any changes you make. As a rule, if this kind of thing is removed by another editor, it is generally assumed to be vandalism. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 01:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Talkback from Tyw7 (04 November 2009)
{{talkback|Tyw7}}
You have messages on my talk page! --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 01:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
And thanks for the review. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 02:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
For this bit of tidying up. I haven't seen your sig much while working recent changes. Maybe we're on drastically different time zones. Anyway, it's good to see you lurking about watching over things. Keep up the good work Tiderolls 02:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
You are very welcome! I did a big of Huggle-ing - I'm not quite tired enough to go to sleep yet! Normally I would be fast asleep a few hours ago. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 02:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Xeno's talk page
I undid your edit where you removed the block quote. It was working and there was a closing half to it. I also meant for the heading to be "===" because, at the time, I wasn't sure if it would mess up the archive bot. If you're sure it won't though, I'll leave it be. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 12:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Also, regarding the others being notified, I was planning to do that after I'd sorted out whatever's gone wrong. Thanks, though. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 12:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
No worries. With regard to the archive bot, it looks at the last date stamp, not the level of heading. In Xeno's case, if the last date stamp in a conversation is more than 2 days old, it gets archived. Xeno has deliberately made the first entry with a date far into the future so that that thread doesn't get archived.
With regard to notifying others, I noticed that they hadn't been done, and assumed that you had been distracted by Real life! Hope you don't feel I was treading on your toes! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
It's no problem, I appreciated it. As for the level of heading, wouldn't that count as leaving two separate threads, one of which is unsigned? With my own experience of unsigned comments, it doesn't get archived. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 12:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually, you might be right there! Feel free to put it back to how it was before I stuck my oar in! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
← Thanks for the closure and the semi-support, saying you at least understood what I meant to do. I had the feeling that I'd just made a spectacular fool of myself... I do that so often it wouldn't surprise me if I had. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 15:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
If I had a (insert unit of money here) for every time I'd done something foolish, I'd not need to work ever again! If no one had done something on the Project in a year or so, then it could be counted as dead - but as others said, there's plenty of reason to keep it! Anyway, at the end of the day, no harm no foul. It's experience if nothing else (for me, it was only the second time I've done a closure - and I forgot to subst the template!) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the editor review..
Cheers.. :D
--Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
You are very welcome! If you want to try doing a review on another editor (especially one with a star next to their name, as they have no reviews yet) that'd be good (and help with the backlog), but if not - I hope my comments were helpful. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I'll try and do one, if I get time this week.. And thanks a lot. I thought I was a really really bad editor.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
No more than most of us! I have seen some editors on here that I think are not too good (and I don't just mean the vandals) - but your contributions seem to be constructive to the encyclopedia, so you have my support! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Psssst
Between you and me, I don't think the IP is "new": surreptitious edits claiming them to be "sourced" that are completely different than the source says, running to ANI and then Jimbo ... that's someone who's been around as they seem to know how to do things. I will WP:AGF though. (talk→BWilkins←track) 11:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I have my suspicions too, with the ANI and Jimbo - but like you I gave the benefit of the doubt as per WP:AGF. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for giving me a review, and yes, I haven't been editing because of school. :(
Parker1297 (contribs, talk) 23:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
You are welcome. As you weren't signed in, your IP address was left instead of your user name. I have altered that - do you want the IP address removed from the page's history, so other editors cannot associate the IP with your user name? If so, let me know and I will contact an Oversighter who can get it removed so that not even admins can see it. If you are OK with it staying in the history, let me know that too! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Im new to wikipedia and am interested in editing a sentence in an existing article.
I had a go at the sandbox, though doesn't help much.
When I went to edit the page, a blank box appeared which scared me from doing anything, as i wasn't sure if i would wipe out the original article???
I assumed that editing would have brought up the original article and i would edit/replace the sentence in question with the correct information.
btw i don't know what a talk page means though it feels as if i have read pages and pages of info re editing and guidelines,
i hope this makes sense and i sign off properly, kind regards julietteJuliette Rose (talk) 13:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
If you are on the article page, you can click on edit at the top of the page, which will come up with an editing box like the one you used to put the message on my page. On an article, it will show the current text and markup (those are things that look like [[blah]] and {{this}}.
If you tell me what article you were trying to edit, I can give a bit more specific advice!
With regard to talk pages - these are pages where people can discuss things. Each article can have one (if one doesn't exist, the discussion tab will be red. If you click on this, you will get an empty box similar to what you described - that just means that there is nothing on the page, and anything that you add is new! Users have one (like this one) - your one is (at the moment) showing as a red link, as yours hasn't been created yet. I am about to add a welcome message with useful links on your one, so it will no longer show a red link, but a blue one - one of the links there is "how to edit", which might be useful to read!
Please feel free to contact me with any other questions. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Also, if you're worried you'll mess things up, use the edit summary to make it clear you're not sure about what your doing (preventing accusations of vandalism) and then go to the history page and check the article diffs. If you've truly messed something up, the original article is only a click of the undo button away. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 13:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank-you Steve.
Just a note to say thanks for the time you've put into keeping me focused on Wikipedia ideals and on developing some of the articles I started.
Kernel.package (talk) 00:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
You're too kind! If I recall, our common articles were Wabigama and some of the fouding members! I remember we had a disagreement about the notability of the club! However, I rmember helping find information about a couple of the founders (and I'm glad that those article are still present!). As I said at the time, I don't aim to get articles deleted - if reliable sources (even if it's just a couple of them!) are all I look for - and I quite enjoy finding them. As I said before, if you ever have any questions, please feel free to contact me - I'll do my best to help out, or direct you to where people more knowledgeable than me can be found! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry
hi i didnt do dat wrong revisions in Kanpur article.
thnx for undo.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Urprakhar (talk • contribs) 08:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment! I know that it wasn't you - it was a vandal. I sometimes do "vandal patrol", and the page is one which came up! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
newbie and editing :)
Thank you for answering so quickly,
I will give it a go now, hopefully i did it correctly.
cheers Juliette Rose (talk) 08:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
You are very welcome! One of the things I like doing on Wikipedia is giving advice and help - I hope you got sorted OK! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:37, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Looking at your contributions, I see that you managed to get your edit to work on the Karen Kay (TV personality) article - well done! If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
75.141.100.115 user talk page will be deleted.
That user talk page will be deleted because there is no longer a user in the future. I will have to put Strike-through text on the user talk page called 75.141.100.115. 12.239.22.131 (talk) 05:58, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello Phantomsteve. Very clear they were! Lumenlitt (talk) 23:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
completing my note
Phatntomsteve. Its getting late here and mistakes happen. I meant to thank you for your instructions which helped a lot. Lumenlitt (talk) 23:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Please refer to the talk page of the specified article and look to the second half, where most complaints as to the biased nature in which the article was created and is kept are stored. Some are years old. I do not appreciate being directed to an opinion grave. I have read the criteria for speedy deletion, as I also have WP:NOTPERFECT. WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 08:14, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
At least 3 admins do not believe that this is an attack page. Although admins are not perfect, that does not mean that they are always wrong!
Yes, some of the discussion points on the article's page are up to 2-1/2 years old. However, many of those points appear to have been addressed. Again, I highly recommend that you leave a message on the talk page giving specifics about why you feel that this article is an attack page. What exactly do you feel is inaccurate? Can you provide reliable sources showing this to be the case? If you re-insert a speedy deletion tag, you are running the risk of being blocked - you have been made aware that you should not do this, and your replies indicate that you have seen the messages about this.
Again, I strongly suggest that you discuss this on the article's talk page. It is very rare that an article that is this old (more than 6 years old) requires deleting in its entirety - it is certainly possible that specific words/sentences/sections might need removing or improving. However, this is a discussion for the talk page of the article, rather than unilateral action.
You said that you have read the criteria for speedy deletion - I do not see where in the article it disparages or threatens Dembski, which are the words used in the Speedy Deletion policy. However, for a speedy deletion to be required, all (or the vast majority of) the article needs to be disparaging or threatening Dembski. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Would you like me to quote for you the alleged bias? By the way of your comments, you seem to have not noticed that I had already posted comments to the aforementioned talk page. Also, I knew the risk of posting all that I did. I will take such risks if warranted. WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 08:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
I did see your 2 comments on the talk page (left just over 2 hours ago) - and to be honest, I do not know enough about this subject to comment on it - and I have no desire to use the limited time I have available at the moment to look into it. I would suggest that you leave more than a couple of hours for people to comment! As the editors on Wikipedia are from all over the world, I would leave it at least 24 hours before deciding that no one is paying attention. Also, I noticed that in the "Perakh quote/piecemeal treatment of writings" section, you did get a reply (from dave souza), who indicated that your opinion was against that shown in reliable third-party sources. I would again suggest that you take this up on the talk page - respond to dave souze (I realise that their reply was only made about 20 mins ago, so you may not have seen it yet); wait for a response to your comment at the "Peer review, Nature, and UD" section. As I say, I do not know this subject well enough to be able to comment, and as I have to go out soon, I do not have time (or if I'm honest, the inclination) to look into this in the detail which would be required.
However I do know that there is no reason to delete the entire article! As I have previously said, if there are specific sections that can be improved, that is one thing - wholesale deletion is not a viable option, I would venture to suggest!
Continue to discuss it, allow people the chance to respond - and go from there. As this is an article about an American, I would expect that most of the editors with the relevant knowledge will be in America - and as it is the early hours of the morning over there, they are unlikely to have seen your comments yet!
As far as I am concerned, I have said everything that I am going to say about this article. However, if you have any other questions (about editing other articles, Wikipedia's policies, etc), please feel free to contact me again. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
I am in Hartford, Connecticut, the United States of America. I have read every article that you have prompted me to read, incidentally, before you did prompt such. Also, there has been discussion concerning exactly what I am concerned about. The article has already been put for speedy deletion by other contributors. The speedy deletion flag was put down by other contributors. The article is consistantly biased and only speaks of controversy regarding the man's beliefs and prose. If that is not bias in your opinion, then I need to, ironically, provoke you with WP:NOTPERFECT. I am not speaking to the innaccuracy of the article. I am speaking to the bias of the sources, the obviously absurd unreliability of the sources, and the consistancy of the article it self. The article is about the man, not about how his life's work is controversial to groups of peoples. A section regarding a study or book of his should not only be concerning it's opposition. By ignoring these bias, you are very much WP:NOTPERFECT. WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 09:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
I am also very much not an admin! I am not ignoring bias - I do not know anything about this person, his life or his work. To be able to comment in a reasoned way, I would need to spend time looking into it - and to be honest, I have more important things (to me) to do, than spend hours looking into this subject. My advice to you would be to address (on the talk page) the specific sources. Explain why you consider them to be biased, something along the lines of "The book Fred Blogs by John Smith is biased/unreliable because...", "The article Am I Biased? written by Mark Jones in the September 2009 issue of "Issues in Bias Monthly" shows bias/is unreliable because...". Please note that I am not being flippant here! If you can provide specific examples with reliable, independent sources backing up your arguments, then you are more likely to get reasoned responses - people can respond to specific allegations of bias. Use reliable sources to back up your contentions of bias/unreliability - can you find independent sources to back up what you are saying?
As to whether the focus of the article is correct or not, I would leave that to people with more knowledge on the subject - which may or may not include you, I don't know! All I do know is that I am not one of those people! My gut instinct is that showing that a person is considered controversial by other people is a valid part of an article about a person. Sometimes it is in a specific "critical response" or "criticisms" section, sometimes it is not - but the mention of any controversy is part of a balanced coverage, I would have thought. If some people feel (and there are independent, reliable sources) that there are criticisms to be made, these should be mentioned in the article.
If you have any questions on other articles, please feel free to leave them! I will not comment any further on this particular article, as I think I have made my position quite clear - please do not take it as rudeness on my part! However, any other articles you want to discuss, or advice about editing, I am quite happy to respond to. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Over seventy and five percent of the one hundred and twenty-one cited sources are in direct opposition to the man, including those that are used for the early history of his career. I have already made two simple edits in the first two paragraphs, removing blatant bias. That is to ignore the fact that many of those sources are biased by nature. WP:VALID mandates that there must be equal weight given to both sides of any arguement, those sources cited must be credible, there must be sources cited, etc.. I did not give specific examples before. You do ask why? There are so many! The whole article is biased. You are responding under the assumption that the administrators were justified by their flippant decisions regarding my speedy deletion flag. I really believe that the issue is that they themselves are biased, they are flippant, they are ignorant, they are lazy, and they are too scared to consider serious deletion or major deletion of such an old article!WiZeNgAmOtX (talk) 10:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
An answer
{{Talkback|Doug|A question about closing XfD as no concensus}}
Another answer, sort of
Hello, Phantomsteve. You have new messages at Doug's talk page. Message added 13:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop
For the Arbitration Committee, Risker (talk) 08:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Oops!
Sorry; I was trying to notify a spammer and hit the wrong link. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
My bad - I should have SUBST'd my template, as it uses headings! I've corrected the template so that if I don't SUBST it, there's an error. Otherwise, if some clicks on edit, it edits the template, not the user page! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Re: Your recent RfA
Note: Sebwite copied this from their talk page.
I just wanted to let you know that although I opposed your RfA at this time, this does not mean that I think you should forget about it forever!
Although I was concerned over your answers to two of the questions (as I said in my oppose) please take this as a learning experience. I see no reason why you should not become an admin the the future - I just believe that at the moment you are not quite ready for it!
Keep up the excellent work on Wikipedia. Hopefully you will consider re-applying for adminship in the future. During the time until you do, read up on the policies about deletion and about alternate accounts!
I do indeed plan to try again in the near future. I am not jumping into immediately; first comes the post-mortem. In any case, I never expected to get it on my first try. Had I gotten it, I would have been really shocked. Sebwite (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
THIS IS NOT VANDALISM THIS IS MY Intellectual property RIGHT THIS BADGE IS COPYRIGHT
IP UK Patent Office Reg No 3017175
THIS IS NOT MOD OR CROWN THIS IS MINE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.71.232 (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
You may be interested in this RFC/U
As you were involved in the earlier discussions and commented in most of them, you might be interested to know of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Dbachmann 4. I'm letting all of the major participants in the discussions know, regardless of position.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Copyright and Fair Use - more
Incidently, I should point out that the SBS logo (as are all armed forces logos) is British Crown Copyright - the copyright is legally owned by HMSO and the MoD on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen. If you belong to one of these two organisations, then you need to follow the "Owner" advice I gave you above - if you are the designed of the logo, then you will know that you released the design to Crown Copyright. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC
Incidently this is my copy right so unless you want to have the cost of compensation sent you you as well keep out off this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.71.232 (talk) 21:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I am copying the guidelines I referred to on your talk page below.
Are you the copyright owner?
* If you are the copyright owner or represent the copyright owner, we can assist you best via e-mail. You may contact us at info-en-c@wikimedia.org with an informal request. Please cite the exact URL (the "address" or "Location" of the page as shown by your web browser, as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...), and provide enough information to substantiate your claim of copyright ownership.
Correspondence is answered by a small team of volunteers.
I trust that this will enable you to sort out removing the images. On a personal note, I must say that I am disappointed that you are so against Wikipedia using the image, as it illustrates the SBS article beautiful (after all, it is a beautiful design).
I am choosing not to construe your last message as a legal threat - if it is indeed a legal threat, then I will need to report it to the administrators of Wikipedia, who will have to block your IP pending resolution of the situation. I realise that you are angry, and so I am assuming that you are merely lashing out at an editor who is trying to explain the situation on Wikipedia, and why we feel that the image can be used under "Fair Use" guidelines.
I trust that the WikiMedia Foundation will be able to resolve this to your satisfaction (please do contact them, as above). Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Two other points come to mind - I am not a legal expert, but others who are may know the answers to these:
You may be recognised as being the "Intellectual Property Owner" - but I am not sure if that is the same as the copyright owner? I was under the impression that the IPO was recognised as having made the design (the "intellectual" bit), but that this was not necessarily the same as the copyright owner. For example, an author is recognised as the IPO of their written work, but the copyright owner is usually the publisher.
The design in your IPO and the design in the article, while similar, show differences. The one the IPO refers too appears to be the original SBS design - whereas the one we have in our article is the current, slightly modified design. Again, I don't know the legalities of this.
Thanks, Thejadefalcon. As you may see, I've also left another message for the user, with further advice about what we need proof of in order to be able remove the logo. Hopefully, they will follow the advice. I am also leaving a message on your talk page with regard to this. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
It's something I've never dared attempt myself (moving a tag from mainspace to a talkpage is about the closest I get to taking on administrative tasks). --Paularblaster (talk) 17:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! Just wanted to thank you for your message on this user's talk page, I think it was very helpful. I hope you didn't think I was having a go at you for leaving the templates, they do serve a function. It's just new users talk pages can get overwhelmed and then they never come back. Cheers GedUK 12:59, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! It's a fine line between sticking to the guidelines for user pages/articles and WP:BITE! Hopefully they will follow my advice - in which case I will withdraw my nomination. However, I think that whatever happens, the other page (the one which would take me all year to type in) should be deleted, as it is a duplicate of the main user page, and the title is too long! Anyway, thanks for contacting me! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I totally agree about the second page, only because it's a copy of the first. I'll keep my eye on all three, and see where we go. GedUK 14:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Singapore International Energy Week references
Dear Phantomsteve,
Good news, the Singapore International Energy Week started this week with international energy expert Daniel Yergin addressing the audience at the Singapore Energy Lecture. Several media have reported on this. Would we be able to share the reports below as references for the Singapore International Energy Week article?
Reuters: This does not mention the SIEW, so cannot be used (it says "Yergin told reporters on the sidelines of a conference.", without saying which conference)
Channel NewsAsia: Looks good - I will incorporate this
ICIS: Looks good
Green Business Times: Looks good
Irish Sun: Looks good.
I will look at those four later today, and add to the article. Thanks for pointing them out to me - as further news reports are available, list them here, and I will check them and add information as necessary. If you think that I have neglected something from an article, let me know! I can then either add it to the article, or explain why I feel that it shouldn't be there!
Regards, and thanks for your work - and for asking me here, rather than just adding it yourself! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Just to let you know - I've not forgotten this! I will be dealing with it before I sign off for the night! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Update: I'm now going to do it in the morning - I'm tired, it's time for bed! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
ACC
Hi there, I'm sorry I stole your reserved request...I got a bit excited about handling my first request. Looking back though that may have been a mistake...--SKATERSpeak. 15:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Skater. No worries - just remember that the ACC tool only shows if a user has refreshed the screen or clicked on a tab or something in the last 5 mins. When I am looking at a request, I tend to take a while - clicking the links opens new windows, as you know, so it doesn't refresh to show that you are working on it!
Also, if an editor has to go to the toilet, get a coffee, etc - they may be away for more than the 5 mins! In general, if it is marked as "handled" do not touch it - if the time stamp is like 50-60 mins ago or more, it might be worth asking on the IRC channel about it.
You have been amazingly helpful at me, and I thank you very much for that. You do great work at wikipedia-en-help IRC-channel. As you have been so amazingly helpful, I do not award you some rusty, ordinary and old barnstar - I award you this private Boeing 787-jet. Thank you again, and happy editing! Ilyushka88Talk to me 16:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you - that is both unexpected, and very nice of you! Thank you for the help you do on the IRC channel too. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 16:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks...
...for your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Chestney. As you said, I did search, because I'm really an inclusionist at heart--though obviously one who should be kinder to his fellow man. Drmies (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, I thought their comment was unfair. If they'd singled you out, and you had not looked up sources - or if it had been a rant against all of us who had !voted "delete" - it would have been different. I hope that I didn't sound rude - it was about my fourth draft of my comment, before I finally "save"d it! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:00, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Singapore International Energy Week references
Done. Citations and information have been added to the article -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Phantomsteve. Looking forward to the additions. I will also compile fresh updates which mention SIEW for your consideration. Cheers,Aaron Yeo (Singapore) (talk) 05:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I have added the information from the 4 sources. As you get more sources about this years' events, they can be added. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This was placed on my talk page by mistake--Drmies
Thanks a lot for your soothing answer on "Quinceanera (film)"
I just happen to find it : I had "turned the page" as we say in french. Truly, I think my text can be of some use for those interested in chicano culture & that Shiver of recognition is just a <redacted>... T.y. Arapaima (talk) 09:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know, I created the account that you were handling since you were no longer on the site. Sorry for any inconvenience that might have developed because of this. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 18:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Just so that you know, the site only shows whether I opened the request within the last 5 minutes. I take my time to evaluate it (especially at the moment when I've got a slower connection than usual) - but as a rule, if it's marked as being "handled", please do not take over. As you will know, when you click on the links for block lists, etc, it opens a new window. This means that you haven't refreshed the page, and if the checks take longer than 5 mins, it will show you as not being on the site. This does not mean that the editor isn't doing anything! In future, leave it, and assume it is being handled - if it has not been closed within 45-60 mins, that'd be different - but I'd been handling it for 10 mins, and had almost finished checking (I had to do the "List" and the "Google" checks first, and then I was going to create it. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:08, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Amazing...
I never heard that there was more than one character for the ó with an acute accent!!! :) --Againme (talk) 20:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I was vaguely aware of it, but haven't really come across it! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Bravo
Civility Award
Just to say thanks for your coolheaded, endlessly civil handling of all the shenanigans around "Team touchdown", especially since I believe you got involved as a Help Desk volunteer. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
The whole episode has given me my first episode of wikistress and it's been very heartening to see your exemplary civil, considered, and calm handling of the situation. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind Award :D
I try not to get too stressed out here - after all, no one on here knows me in real life (I'm not aware of any friends or family who are editors) and I don't know them. At the end of the day, Wikipedia isn't the most important thing in my life - my partner and kids are.
I also try to be civil and reasonable as much as possible. I have left a message on the creator's page with advice - hopefully they will pay attention to it when their block is up. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
contacting OTRS on my behalf - cheers
Hi Phantomsteve,we chatted through live chat last week whereby you said write to you here.
reminder of conversation: modbot had picked up on the fact that i had used word for word text from this sites page: http://www.goldstarpr.com/artistsDetails.php?gid=293
The wording/text in question was provided by me to the website (its the main article text below the large photo - this is what i want to use on my wiki page)
you said i should ask you to contact OTRS on my behalf re this - im greatful for your help.
one last question - id like to use a photo for this wiki page,for which im the copyright holder,i dont want to use a creative commons license for this as i dont want the potential for the photo to be adapte.How do i go about this so it can be cleared to go up on the wiki page? thanks.
i will need a talkback as to notify me you have replied to this message,regards,Nick0Name —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick0Name (talk • contribs) 15:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Do you have access to an e-mail account at the domain (i.e. something@goldstarpr.com)? If so, don't tell me what it is here (although a user page, it is still very visible!) - just basically say yes or no! Once I have that answer, I can advise you further!
With regard to the licensing - unfortunately, whether the picture goes on Commons or Wikipedia, the licensing that we require the image released under means that you can't prevent people from "adapting" the photo! I see from the IRC chat (I wasn't monitoring it at the time, being busy with other stuff) that this was discussed with you by AJCham.
Where do I give my side of the story? --Malkinann (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Just go to the talk page, and add a comment in the RfC section. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Ta, I've said my piece. Hope my formatting's ok. --Malkinann (talk) 10:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Looks fine to me, Malkinann. Thank you for contributing to the discussion! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
German Article
hi folks, I'm writing to see if you can allso add my write up story on me in the English Free Encyclopedia Section Home Page, as I am in your Deutsch home Page, and would love to have as well in English Section of the Encyclopedia.
Sorry but I have pasted it, I hope its ok, as I just wanted you to see that it is there, Thanking you in advance, Wayne Cogswell—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wayne cogswell (talk • contribs) 19:44, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
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Wayne Cogswell
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Wayne Cogswell (* 12. September 1937) ist ein US-amerikanischer Rockabilly- und Rock-’n’-Roll-Musiker sowie Songschreiber. Cogswell schrieb Ende der 1950er- und Anfang der 1960er-Jahre Hits für Stars wie Chet Atkins, Skeeter Davis und Floyd Cramer.
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1954 zog Wayne Cogswell, der damals bereits verheiratet war und fünf Kinder hatte, nach Memphis, Tennessee, auf der Suche nach Jobs als Musiker. Zwischenzeitlich hatte er den Bühnennamen „Wayne Powers“ angenommen. In Memphis arbeitete Cogswell zunächst als Verkäufer von Unterdruckreinigern und traf im selben Jahr noch Ray Harris, der gerade auf der Suche nach einem Gitarristen war. Cogswell schloss sich Harris‘ Band an und in den nächsten vier Jahren spielten die beiden zusammen. Mit Harris nahm Cogswell bei Sun Records in Memphis auf und war Co-Autor mehrerer Songs von Harris (Come On Little Mama, Where’d You Stay Last Nite, Foolish Heart).
Als Ray Harris Sun 1958 verließ und das Label Hi Records gründete, blieb Cogswell bei Sun. Er bekam nun die Gelegenheit, selbst für Sun ein paar Songs einzuspielen, von denen My Love Song und Point of View unter seinem Künstlernamen „Wayne Powers“ bei Suns Sublabel Phillips International veröffentlicht wurden. Es sollten jedoch seine einzigen Aufnahmen für Sun bleiben. Stattdessen arbeitete Cogswell für Sun als Studiomusiker und neben Jack Clement und Bill Justis als weitere „rechte Hand“ für Sam Phillips, den Besitzer des Labels. Zu seinen erwähnenswerten Arbeiten zählt die Betreuung von Mikki Milans Session, während der Milan Somehow Without You einspielte.
Anfang der 1960er-Jahre begann Cogswell sich mehr auf das Schreiben von Songs zu konzentrieren. Für Chet Atkins schrieb er die Hits Teensville, The Slop und Rainbows End sowie Skeeter Davis‘ Someday Someday. 1964 hatte Cogswell in kommerzieller Hinsicht seinen größten Erfolg. Al Hirt machte den mit Ray Peterson geschriebenen Song Night Theme zu einem Hit, der auch von vielen anderen Künstlern gecovert wurde. Cogswell nahm den Song selbst auch mit Peterson unter dem Pseudonym The Mark Two auf seinem eigenen Label WYE Records und 1967 bei Roulette Records auf. Er komponierte Songs auch als Wayne Powers und als Winston Cogswill.
In der Gegenwart tritt Cogswell immer noch auf.
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Jahr Titel Label #
1958 My Love Song / Point of View Phillips Int. 3523
196? Night Theme / Confusion WYE 5-1001
1967 Night Theme / Confusion Roulette 4784
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What Will I Do
Sun Records
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(edit conflict)(multiple) If you want to do this, you need to go to the edit screen and copy that, not the output. This appears to be meaningless gibber, even if I did understand German fluently. I also had a ton of edit conflicts and I have no idea if I just deleted anything important or not... --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 19:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Wayne - I'm not sure why you contacted me (especially as you have made no other edits on Wikipedia, apart from the one to this page!). I don't read or speak German - I used Google Translate to see what all that was about. So, I can see that you are "American Rockabilly- And Rock 'n' roll musician and songwriter. Cogswell wrote in the late 1950s and early 1960s hits for stars such as Chet Atkins, Skeeter Davis and Floyd Cramer." The problem that I see with this article is that there are no sources of information! I don't know what the policies on the German Wikipedia are, but on the English Wikipedia, we like to have sources of information from reliable, independent sources, which confirm the information in an article.
What we would need from you are some sources of information which confirm the details in the above article's text. A quick search on Google News revealed no hits; Google News Archive revealed a few - but none about you'; Google Scholar had a few hits, but they all basically had one-line entries along the lines of "Wayne Cogwell wrote... "; Google Books results are similar to the Scholar results. Google Search had a few mentions about you, but I didn't notice any sites we would count as reliable for our purposes.
Without reliable sources, there can't be an article.
Perhaps you could contact the 3 editors on the German Wikipedia who created and edited your article? Perhaps they could tell you the sources they used.
So, regretfully, I am not going to do anything further on this - I have spent a bit of time looking for information about you, and not finding the significant coverage which is required by our policies and guidelines. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Team Touchdown
I created a SPI case which is linked to the discussion you were participating in. MajorMinorMark (talk) 23:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know. I saw your link on the ANI thread, and was going to have a look later! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Team Touchdown.
TEAM TOUCHDOWN IS AWESOME AND YOU SHOULDN"T HAVE DELETED THEIR PAGE YOU BASTARD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Millsy360 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Dude, DNFT an' all that - Allie❤ 08:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Re this comment - if you would like to be an admin, I would be more than happy to nominate you. I have seen you around enough to know that you know what you are doing and display the requisite knowledge of policies etc. Let me know. – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words. However, I am currently doing admin coaching with Juliancolton, and if/when he feels that I am ready, he will nominate me. I've still got quite a few areas to work on - I've only just started the coaching! I must admit, having seen so much of you around, I thought that you were an admin, so was surprised to see that you aren't! Anyway, once again, thanks for the kind words. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I meant to say before - contact Juliancolton: perhaps when/if he decides I am ready for nomination, he might be happy for you to co-nominate? I don't know how this kind of thing works! As I say, though, it wouldn't be for a while any way -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
You can have co-noms, I had SoWhy and Camaron at mine. I look forward to seeing you at RfA sometime, I've a good feeling about it! GedUK 14:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment! So, if someone wanted to co-nom me at some unspecified date in the future, do they contact Julian and ask him, or can they just add to his nom if he puts up an RfA for me? As I say, it won't be anytime too soon, as I've only just started admin coaching! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, I don't think there's any hard and fast rules/procedures on that, but it seems sensible that the two co-noms are in contact with each other. I seem to remember that I approached my first nominator to tell him someone else had offered to nom as well, and did he mind co-noming. Something like that (it's buried in my talkpage archive if you're bored!). Have you done an editor review, by the way? They can sometimes be helpful, though under far less scrutiny than RfA. GedUK 14:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I have a review here - please feel free to give a second review if you want to! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Wow, she must have been paddled with something really strange as a child to have a derriere in that shape. >.> --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 17:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Barnstar of Diligence
The analysis you wrote at Talk:Lee Jun Ki was extraordinarly thorough and insightful, and very helpful in resolving the dispute. Phil153 (talk) 22:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for this barnstar - I'm glad that I could be helpful -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 06:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I have placed the translated text on my user page. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 06:30, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Singapore International Energy Week 2009 concludes
Hi Phantomsteve,
Thanks for the reference updates! The Singapore International Energy Week concluded last week with many energy experts discussing and propelling the drive for sustainable energy.
As such, could we trouble you to edit "is taking place" to "took place" in the following line?
2009: "Clean Energy: Sustainable Solutions for Urban Cities"
Singapore International Energy Week 2009 is taking place from 16 - 20 November at the Shangri-la Hotel in Singapore.
Additionally, there has been more media coverage on the event. You could consider the following for the references:
Aaron, I've altered the tense of the sentence to the past tense! I'll look at those refs later today (I'm on my way out now!). Incidently, you can edit the article yourself (for example, you could have changed the sentence to the past tense) - although I am quite happy to continue looking at (and adding) references! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Aaron, I see that you altered one of the other tenses to be past tense - well done! I have also done another verb tense correction.
Onto your 2 references: the Straight Times one is an interesting read, but I will need to read it carefully to see what facts can be used in the article! A lot of it is Cheam's opinions, which cannot be put in the article - but I will glean the facts and insert them!
The People one is more useable - it is a factual report, and so I can insert facts from this more easily!
I will do this during the next few minutes. Thanks once again for coming to me with these references - the fact that I am inserting the information helps to ensure the article's neutrality. I know nothing about the SIEW, and have no particular interest in it - so I can write in a neutral way!
Actually this sort of stuff was determined to be deletable a while back (where if I recall correctly, I did not feel them as evil as others did) -- I generally weigh in where I feel the reasons so far given on a topic are insufficient for the result sought by those already posting. With the mass deletion of secret pages in the past, it is difficult for me to expect a different result now. Collect (talk) 00:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your response - I wasn't expecting you to !vote on the MfD, but I was interested in getting your take on the issue. As I said at the MfD, most times I would !vote delete on these kinds of pages, as the vast majority of them are done by editors who have little (if any) article work or Wikipedia namespace edits. In this case, I felt that the editor in question is working towards bettering the encyclopedia elsewhere, and so should be given leeway. As I noted at the MfD, the policy does not say "Games will not be allowed" - it includes the phrase about "particular if they are not contributing to the encyclopedia". Concensus has never been reached on this issue - otherwise the policy would just say "Games are not allowed." with no provision of a grey area!
Please contact my attorney, Mr. Osher. He is putting finishing touches on the copyright and permission issue. This all should be worked out this week. Mr. Osher's e-mail is <redacted>. If you have any further questions, please deal with my attorney regarding them.
Nice work on organizing and cleaning up this article. Still needs work, but at least it looks all Wiki now. :) Mitchell k dwyer (talk) 19:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't know if you've seen the message I left on EMarley's talk page, but I have contacted both the church and the other individual (whose name I have forgotten) requesting permission to use the pictures (or even one of their choosing if they want) - along with the consent form for them to fill in. If they give permission, I will forward that to permissions (although they might send it directly themselves, as I gave the details of how to). If they refuse permission, I will remove the images.
Oh by the way, thanks for the advice that you have given EMarley - even if they aren't really paying too much attention to it! Keep up the good work -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Dr. Timothy Lin photograph
Hello PhantomSteve-
I am writing in regards to a photograph of Dr. Timothy Lin that my client has attempted to upload onto Dr. Lin's Wikipedia article. My client owns the copyright to the photograph by virtue of an assignment of copyright he received from the individual that took the photograph. On November 13, 2009 and again no November 20, 2009, I submitted a copy of the photograph and a copy of the assignment of copyright to Wikipedia via the e-mail photosubmission@wikimedia.org. I have not heard back yet regarding my request to have the photo displayed on Dr. Lin's and Dr. Hymers' website. Can you assist me in this regard?
Thanks
Jeremy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckjo (talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
With respect, I have no verification of your identity. I have already contacted the Church requesting permission for the reproduction of the photograph, as they are shown as the copyright owner of the image.
However, on the assumption that you are indeed Jeremy O. Osher of Boren,Osher & Luftman, I assume that when you created you account here (for which your edit to leave this message is your only one), you created it using your work e-mail address? If you did, then on the left hand side of this page, you will see a link E-mail this user. If you click on that, and send me an e-mail confirming your identity. It will show the e-mail address that you registered with.
If you did not, put your work e-mail in the e-mail address on the my preferences, and then send the e-mail. Please note, I will use WHOIS tools to identify where it came from (I would suggest that you send it from a computer in your office). Once I have confirmed your identity, I will e-mail you with detailed instructions as to how to notify the WikiMedia Foundation about the copyright situation of this photograph.
As I have already said, I have contacted the First Chinese Baptist Church of Los Angeles requesting permission to use the photograph (or one of their own choosing, if they prefer).
I just sent you an e-mail; hopefully I did it right.
Thanks
Jeremy Osher —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckjo (talk • contribs) 23:09, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
You did indeed do it correctly! I have sent you a return e-mail to your work e-mail address, detailing how to contact the WikiMedia Foundation to confirm that the images may appear on Wikipedia.
May I especially recommend that you carefully read the licencing conditions which I have referred to (although with your special emphasis on Intellectual Property, you will no doubt already be familiar with them) - and especially ensures that the copyright owner is aware of them, and what permissions they are giving when they say Wikipedia can use the image.
Also, should you contact the Foundation directly (rather than through me), could you please send me a copy of your e-mail for my records?
Thanks for the quick response, and I look forward to sorting this out to everyone's satisfaction -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Singapore International Energy Week 2009 concludes (2)
Thanks Phantomsteve! Really appreciate your effort in making the article more informative.Aaron Yeo SIWW (talk) 04:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
You are very welcome! If more reliable sources are forthcoming, let me know! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
For the review)) Regards Jprw (talk) 11:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey, nice work at UAA! Just one quick note: generally, we don't (or at least, I don't) block promotional usernames unless they've made explicitly promotional edits. Thus, I've tagged a couple of your reports with {{UAA|w}}. Just something to keep in mind. :) Regards, –Juliancolton | Talk 02:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm a long time member of the Columbus Symphony. Some years ago the name was changed from Columbus Symphony Orchestra. I'm not sure why. If you need more confirmation I can put you in touch with the new CEO Roland Valliere if that would help.
Thank you for contacting me, Chris. A while ago, someone else from CSO contacted me about the same thing. At the time, I checked on the official website, and there was no mention of the fact that they were now known as "Columbus Symphony". Now I see that most of the referencs on the website appear to say "Columbus Symphony" rather than Columbus Symphony Orchestra. As such, I am going to move the article to "Columbus Symphony Orchestra" to "Columbus Symphony" to reflect this (if someone types in Columbus Symphony Orchestra, they will be redirected to CS). I will also amend the wording in the article to reflect that they are known as CS, but that their full title is CSO. Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Captain ...
Your initial instincts were right - though it may not be a hoax it's been deleted before here. Keep up the good work. 7 01:14, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. The official website doesn't mention it, but doesn't appear to have been updated in a while! I can't find any reliable sources for the title though, but plenty of mentions - that's why I removed the SD! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 01:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, plenty of ghits but this is one of those strange times where google will say there are 13,000 hits, but then when you go to results page 5 or 6 it says there are only about 60 - none from RS. Either way, with no new info the prior AFD makes it a moot point. Thanks. 7 01:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello Phantomsteve, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Kind of Blue (TQ album) - a page you tagged - because: A9 doesn't apply as there is an article for the artist ;o) Needs to be AfDed or PRODded. WP:HAMMER will almost certainly apply. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. GedUK 16:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
That was my own fault - I read the conditions as being "or" not "and" as it clearly states! I'll remember next time. I am starting to patrol the backlog of unpatrolled new pages - even if all I do is add a little bit of information, tags or tidy up (although if it looks like an SD/PROD/AfD candidate, I will do that too!) I think a lot of people look at the newest pages, but I don't think so many people go to the backlog! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Before I got mopped, I used to patrol the back end of the list. It felt less rushed somehow (how much time did you waste patrolling an article at the front when someone else was doing it too, or it getting deleted, like I did!). The back of the list never gets enough attention, so keep up the good work! GedUK 16:36, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Problem with my watchlist
Hi Phantomsteve - thanks for your help on my watchlist issue. However, I have tried deleting them from my watchlist several times in the ways you suggest, and they just re-appear again. I think it may be some kind of virus. Also, they are deleted pages (I have never visited or added the pages to my watchlist before). The pages are called HÁGGER? and H A G G Ë R ? ? . I am concerned because I recently read a page about an anti-social, disruptive editor called Grawp, who apparently uses these names to create sock-puppet accounts. Is there anyone who can look into this? Thanks. Pexise (talk) 17:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Pexise. I'm sorry but I can't find those pages, as the first one was deleted in April 2008, and the second was deleted in November 2008. I would suggest adding your message above to your question on the help desk, as I do not know where else to direct you for further help. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Excuse me while I facepalm. (facepalms) Okay, my astonishment over Grawp is over. The watchlist problem seems... odd. Without knowing what Phantomsteve told you, I can only guess, but it might be that you forgot to save the edited watchlist (I've done it before). If you know you saved, try deleting them from the raw watchlist. If you've done that and they're still there, run a full anti-virus scan. According to xeno, if Wikipedia starts screwing up like that, it's almost certain to be an issue with your computer rather than Wikipedia. I know that's not exactly a comforting thought. If nothing shows up, trying deleting your cookies or clearing your browser's cache. Sorry, but that's all the help I can think of. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 18:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Huggle Edit Summary
I don't know whether it was you or not, but my instinct tells me it was you. Was it you who had a False Positive attached to the Edit summary while using Huggle? If No, then ignore, if yes, then plese tell me how to do it. Regards, and sorry about the opposition on the AfD.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it was me - I haven't used Huggle in a couple of weeks! As for the AfD - that's why we have them, for discussion. I am sometimes in line with concensus, sometimes not - but everyone has to write what they perceive to be correct! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 07:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Newbie Question
History of your Talk Page shows an unauthorized deletion of texts without your consent. Is it legal at wikipedia?--Newbiex (talk) 07:31, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes. It is generally to remove vandalism, though occasionally mistakes can be made. A user has the right to say what they do or don't want on their talk page (unless they use it for vandalism themselves, in which case, they get their page blanked and themselves blocked), but a little extra help cleaning out the stables never hurt anyone. Hope that answered you question. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 07:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
As Thejadefalcon says, it is perfectly ok for other editors to remove vandalism. I check my history regularly, and if someone has removed something which I think should not have been removed, I just re-insert it. However, this has only happened once or twice - all the other occasions are when it was vandalism, and was right to be moved. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Phantomsteve, I'm trying to enhance the article that you proposed for deletion by adding links and institutional information. Have a nice day. User:Carau/User Talk:Carau
Hi Carau. I see that you have added a comment to the AfD - may I also suggest that you explicitly state that you consider that this article should be kept on there. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Steve, thanks for the editor review, your comments will be very helpful. Click23 (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Also, do you mind if I remove Stoneacress comments from my review? He did not like the comments I left on a AFD he was involved in, and decided to leave a snide comment there.. Click23 (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the comment as it was not constructive - also, it would look better if another editor than yourself removed it. I'm glad the comments are helpful - if you feel the need to, come back in a few month's time and ask for another review. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Working Man's Barnstar
For your tireless effort on the WP:ER Project. Click23 (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
No problem at all. I just saw it so you were quick!Cptnono (talk) 08:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
You're cool
Thanks for the help you gave me about a week ago. You are a good user and have inspired me to one day be a well-respected user on Wikipedia! Uncle Tech (talk) 03:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
You are very welcome, Technogreek43. My advice would be to do constructive edits, keep your nose clean - and then you'll be well on your way to getting a good reputation. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:26, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
User page Questions
Hi, Phantomsteve, I was scaning the help desk page and one of your answers caught my eye. I was courious about the what seem to be "Wiki Ranking" editors ranking, anyway I went to your user page to look at your flags,badges ect. All of this is very interesting to me and will probably be bothering you in the future for help on building my page. My question now is I lost my brother in Viet Nam, I noticed you have "In Memorium" setion where do iI go to set this on my page ? And again I will be asking many questions, I like the layout of you page. Oh and please leave a "talkback" Mark Pearcy (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Mark. I'm not sure what you mean by "Wiki Ranking" - on Wikipedia, most editors are ordinary editors like you and me. There are 11,129,155 registered editors. Of those, 1,702 (0.015%) are administrators (who can delete/undelete pages, protect/unprotect pages, etc). There are 34 bureaucrats (0.0003% of all users, 2% of all admins) who can promote users to admin or bureaucrat and can rename users.
With regard to the "In Memorium" section, I used a user box I created, but it was written specifically for British 1st World War veterans. I could create one for the Vietnam war - but I wouldn't be able to do that until next week, as I won't be on much until then, due to family commitments. For the 1st World War, all participants received at least the British War Medal and British Victory Medal - albeit posthumously. Was there a medal which all combatants received for Vietnam? If so, let me know, and I will create a Vietnam War "In Memorium" user box. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! However, I would like to remind you that the main purpose of Wikipedia is to create an encyclopedia - and looking at your contributions, you haven't done much of that yet! Wikipedia has user pages - but they aren't the main point of Wikipedia - it isn't a socialising site -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 13:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. At Basket_of_Puppies_2's RFA you asked an additional question that attempted to cite a request for CSD on criteron A1 that failed. However, the link you provided goes to a CSD using {{db-person}}. If I wasn't mistaken, it was identical to the link you made on the second example. I just thought I would let you know because I'm curious and want to take a look at that, and I think you copied the wrong URL. Regards, --Mpdelbuono (talk) 23:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
I did indeed copy the wrong URL! Thanks for letting me know - I've sorted it out now! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I have just left a message with Anthony.bradbury about this deleted article.
Thank you for telling me. How did you know, since apparently there was no advanced warning? Or was there, and I missed it?
Actually, I am a wee bit surprised at this procedure, since I believe this stub did give some sources, and that the role of Eliza Hancock as a major inspirational source for Jane Austen must have been quite apparent, 'notable', in fact...
Best regards. --Azurfrog (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I nominated the article for speedy deletion, as there was no indication in the article of her notability - it said that she was Jane Austen's cousin, but didn't mention anything about influencing Austen. As being Austen's cousin would not (in itself) make Hancock notable, it would not be eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia. However, if it had mentioned that she was an influence on Austen, I would not have nominated it for speedy deletion, as it would have indicated her importance. Perhaps you could ask Anthony,bradbury to userfy it to your user space? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh, so you are the guilty one! . Well, my mistake if I didn't provide any information on why she was indeed notable (a full biography on her by Deirdre Le Faye, to start with), as I should know by now. I thought I had, as well as provided a few sources, what's more.
Anyway, can you arrange it so the stub is re-created as I do mean to expand it?
Thanks! --Azurfrog (talk) 13:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
It has been undeleted by anthony.bradbury (the admin who deleted it) - however I should point out that it was not at my suggestion! He obviously responded to the message you left on his talk page. Re-reading the article, I see there is a minor mention of her influence - in the final paragraph - which I overlooked (sorry). It might be an idea to make a mention of this fact in the lead section of the article - along with inline citations. Regards -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Done! And you will find the article itself has been somehow expanded, too... --Azurfrog (talk) 09:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
It's looking good! I'll have a look at it properly if I get a chance, and see if I can find some more sources of information too! (No promises, mind!) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Vietnam Userbox
Thank you Steve very much. Nice job ! ! Mlpearc (talk) 00:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Conflict of interest (OpenCTM)
Hi Phantomsteve!
Thanks for reviewing my page. I am still learning Wikipedia (I'm just starting to grasp all the mechanisms that make it work so great).
The OpenCTM page was marked for deletion, and indeed, it was written by the author of the software, and so it is a bit difficult to keep a neutral perspective, but I try my best.
The reason that it was created by me alone, and not someone else, is probably that OpenCTM is quite new. However, I have received much feedback and questions through various channels (mail, forums, interviews etc), so I thought that a Wikipedia page would be appropriate.
I have made some updates to the page (and I intend to continue to do so) - do you feel that the current version is more adequate? I also intend to add sections about the software library, the tools and the compression algorithm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcus256 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
The CoI doesn't need to particularly be a problem, as long as the article is written from a neutral perspective. The problem I see is the very fact that it is such a new project - the 1.0.1 stable release was 23 days ago. The problem here is that it is very hard to demonstrate that this is a notable. Although it is not a policy or a guideline, the essay Wikipedia:Notability (software) gives a good indication of what most editors would expect to see to show notability for software.
If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article.
The guidelines go on to explain:
"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material. (Examples: The 360-page book by Sobel and the 528-page book by Black on IBM are plainly non-trivial. The one sentence mention by Walker of the band Three Blind Mice in a biography of Bill Clinton (Martin Walker (1992-01-06). "Tough love child of Kennedy". The Guardian. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)) is plainly trivial.)
"Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.
"Sources," (Including but not limited to newspapers, books and e-books, magazines, television and radio documentaries, reports by government agencies, and scientific journals. In the absence of multiple sources, it must be possible to verify that the source reflects a neutral point of view, is credible and provides sufficient detail for a comprehensive article) for notability purposes, should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally preferred. (Lack of multiple sources suggests that the topic may be more suitable for inclusion in an article on a broader topic. Mere republications of a single source or news wire service do not always constitute multiple works. Several journals simultaneously publishing articles in the same geographic region about an occurrence, does not always constitute multiple works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. Specifically, several journals publishing the same article within the same geographic region from a news wire service is not a multiplicity of works.)
"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc. (Works produced by the subject, or those with a strong connection to them, are unlikely to be strong evidence of interest by the world at large. See also: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for handling of such situations.)
"Presumed" means that substantive coverage in reliable sources establishes a presumption, not a guarantee, that a subject is suitable for inclusion. Editors may reach a consensus that although a topic meets this criterion, it is not appropriate for a standalone article. For example, such an article may violate what Wikipedia is not. (Moreover, not all coverage in reliable sources constitutes evidence of notability for the purposes of article creation; for example, directories and databases, advertisements, announcements columns, and minor news stories are all examples of coverage that may not actually support notability when examined, despite their existence as reliable sources.)
I would suggest that the software does not yet meet these criteria. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Incidently, I have had another look for independent, reliable sources, but I have been unable to find any. I will look at the article in a week's time. If it still has no reliable sources, I will consider listing it at Articles for Deletion. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Steve, today you rolled back a page I created that had been blanked by a vandal. I think the same person is repeatedly vandalising this page and putting defamatory/insulting remarks on it.
I think you do a great job, by the way, it's brilliant that you care so much to spend time and effort trying to make W a reliable source. I spent a long time doing research etc for the page I made and getting it "right" and it is very upsetting when idiots come and vandalise it.
Is there anything I can do about it?
Thanks very much
Kay
Kaywesley (talk) 17:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Kaywesley, thank you for your kind words! Sorry for the delay in responding: I didn't initially see your comment, as there was no header for the new section!
I have tidied up the article a bit more - including the references (you did a good job there by the way - I just converted them to the format we use on Wikipedia, and renamed them from "referencexx"!). I have also added it to some WikiProjects (see the talk page) - as a start class article, with low importance. If they become more well-known, they may become more important, but at the moment I see them as low importance to the Rock/Progressive/Alternative projects.
I also used the references for more in-line citations - if the article confirmed more than one detail in the article, I have used the references there.
I'll be honest with you - the reason I caught the vandalism is because I sometimes do some "vandalism patrol", usign an automated tool, which makes it easier to find and revert such vandalism!
As for what you can do to prevent future vandalism - just keep the page on your watchlist and keep an eye on it. It's on my watchlist anyway - and other vandalism patrollers will generally catch most vandalism.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me again (I've left a welcome message on your talk page with useful links).
It has been a while since I last logged on. Can you tell me where I can locate the live chat room where we met? I've some questions including whether or not I was able to get my "funshine" name change.
Your user name usurpation didn't happen, as a bureaucrat asked a question on the usurpation page, and didn't reply a response! You can see their question here. If I was you, I would contact the bureaucrat who asked the question (MBisanz (talk·contribs)) on their talk page, and if you can confirm that yes, "you understand that the WP:COI rules would still apply, regardless of username?", then I am sure that they can change your user name (or they can explain how to go about it).
Let me know if you have any problems. Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Carmen2u/LeeAase follow up
Dear Phantom Steve:
I really appreciate your guidance. Thank you for all your direction. I think I may have placed the references concerning 3rd party interviews with newsources in the wrong section. Your comment about the sparse References section made me realise I should shift those sources where they rightly belong as references! (Unless you think they should stay right where they are.)
Beyond the interviews, there are other sites that mention or note Aase as an authroity in social media use in health care. I'll add some of those as well. After I perform these tasks, I'll likely ask for your review again.
Many thanks and happy holidays,
Carmen Gonzalez, also known as Carmen2u (talk) 20:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad that I could help! All I would say at this point is to carefully read "Reliable Sources" and Independent Sources" which discuss the types of sources which are generally useful as references! Let me know if there is anything else that I can help you with. Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for one of the best researched, clearest, and most well stated AFD arguments I've ever seen. -- RoySmith(talk) 03:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Actually, with that particular phrase, it was quite an easy search - I'd hate to have to do a search for a "John Smith" or something! But I do appreciate your message -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 03:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 51 supports, 4 opposes, and 3 neutrals.
The community gave feedback on a couple of policy pages at WT:SOCK#Interview for Signpost and WT:CIVILITY#Policy Report for Signpost, and there will be another one in Monday's Signpost that we're putting together at WT:Username policy#Signpost Policy Report. I'm asking for your participation because you made an edit this month or last month at that talk page. If you have questions, feel free to ask at WT:Username policy#Signpost Policy Report or my talk page. The best guide to what the community is expecting from the surveys is to follow the links above to see what they've already done; we haven't had any complaints. Thanks for your time. - Dank (push to talk) 17:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
NN
Thanks for taking that the way I meant it. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
That's OK. It was a point well made - as I say, I don't think that I often would use "non-notable" when discussing a person's article at AfD - just for an organisation! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
RFA
Thanks for your guidance. About the admin coaching, I'm listed on it, since many days ago. --MisterWikitalkcontribs 21:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for taking my advice in the spirit in which it was offered! Please bear in mind that it can take quite a while to get a coach - as you will have seen, there are a lot of people waiting! Good luck, though -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw. Thanks for your help. --MisterWikitalkcontribs 22:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Bye and Happy Christmas
Please accept my advanced Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.I will not be able to wish you on those days as I will be taking a Wiki break for one month starting tomorrow. Also wishing you a Happy editing.. :) aruntalk 06:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Pune Locator map
i wish to know how do we create a city area locator map. I tried doing it with inkscape but it was quite difficult, especially drawing roads. i wish to create a Pune Area locator . thnx Nirvanareborn 10:44, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words! That question is one of the key things I just an RFA candidate on, and when I see that question hadn't been asked yet, I figured that I'd do the honors this time.
Who knows? Maybe in 5 or 6 months i'll be able to answer that question :) Doc Quintana (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Re: Admin coaching
Hey Phantomsteve. Um, I had a couple of users come to me, but no actual "training" took place, just discussions in what I'm lacking in. Well, since no "training" came about, I guess I'll remove the "Match pending", then. Update: I removed the "Match pending". -- ThinkBlue (HitBLUE) 01:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
User:Alabaster3000
Dear Phantomsteve,
I saw a message left on this users page about a IRC Chat, while I wasn't privy to the chat, be aware that there has been meatpuppet activity going back a few years with DoM. The coordinated planting of information by this organization is pretty well documented and was the subject one one very nasty arbitration decision. It surprises me a bit this has come back given the website is dead and the organization seem to have disapated. The last coordinated attack has been quite a long time ago, but it certainly looks like they could be gearing up for another one if their pattern of behavior is similar to the past. Feel free to have a look at the archieves of the DoM page if you want more info. I am not as active in Wikipedia as I was was and don't believe in the cause precisely because of this bs, but I do drop by from time to time. Davidpdx (talk) 11:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
To be honest, I got fed up with what they were saying on IRC, so that's why I left the message on their talk page. Basically, the user was trying to get the article deleted/amended. They claimed that DoM is no more — we pointed out that (a) we needed reliable, independent verification (they seemed to fin d it hard to believe that we wouldn't believe the say-so of the president — ignoring the fact that they are a fraudster anyway! (b) although with verification we would be happy to add a note that DoM no longer exists, they couldn't accept that most of the article would remain as it is!
I think 4 or 5 of us were chatting to them in IRC — all saying the same stuff! Anyway, I've done my bit: the DoM is on my watchlist, so if I see suspicious activity, I will do something about it — otherwise I'll have nothing else to do with it!
As I mentioned on your talk page, the role of Wikipedia isn't for public information announcements.
If you are directly involved with it (as "My VQiPS page") seems to imply, then you might want to read the Conflict of Interest Guidelines
When you want to sign a comment on a talk page (never on an article page), instead of typing cluu2009, type ~~~~, which will add your username, along with a link to your talk page and the date/time.
If you want some of the information from the above webpage to be included in Wikipedia, your best bet would be to mention it at WikiProject Law Enforcement's talk page, where you can get advice on where (if anywhere) it may be suitable for inclusion.
I do not feel that this subject would be suitable for its own article, as I can find no references in Google News, Google Scholar or Google Books — and the 7 results from Google Search are either wikis, or www.safecomprogram.gov (not an independent source of information), a Press Release (or so it appears) from the DHS, a 1-line (name-only) mention at AMSII and a link at PDFXP (which is no longer accessible).
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Dear Phantomsteve - I have removed notability tag as have now provided evidence of notability. Is it OK or do you wish more referenes? (Msrasnw (talk) 13:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
Hi Msrasnw. I think that is enough to prevent me proposing it for deletion at the moment. However, I would personally prefer to see more evidence of the book's notability (if possible from weblinks at reliable sources - although this is not required, it makes it easier for readers in general to confirm what is referenced!). At the moment, I do not see much of a case for notability as mentioned at Wikipedia:Notability (books). I will keep an eye on the article, and if I feel that it is not suitable for inclusion, I will put it up for "Articles for deletion" in the New Year. Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
My understanding is No. 1 of book notability is "The book has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself, with at least some of these works serving a general audience." These works "contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary". This book seems to clearly meet this and I am not sure why you feel the threat "I will keep an eye on the article, and if I feel that it is not suitable for inclusion, I will put it up for" AdD is polite or reasonable. (Msrasnw (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
I apologise if you thought that it was a threat — it wasn't intended that way! At the moment, I have not been able to access copies of those references to verify that they "contain sufficient critical commentary" - when I looked at the article, I didn't see anything that would show this beyond Szirmai's comments quoted in the lead. The 2nd reference (Behrman) is used in 5 places, but these seem to be either a direct quote from the reference (in which case, it should be shown as such — although the way the citation is being used, it would appear that big chunks are being used, which would possibly be against the fair use provision), or those chunks of information are synthesised from that reference. The 2 Times articles are in the Times Online Archives, but that costs money to access — so I can't see the by-line or any further details. The way the article stands at the moment, I see no reason for it to be deleted — but when I get a chance (probably in the new year), I will access the sources that I can at libraries in London, to verify the information. Once again, apologies for the misunderstanding! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I knew you bastards would PROD it; why do you do that and claim it wastes bandwidth when EVERY revision of EVERY article is kept? How can little articles waste bandwidth with all that going on? I want an explanation that does not pertain to bandwidth. You are defying Wikipedia's moral hear, not me. Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure where you got the impression that bandwidth was involved here. I have never used that as a reason for deletion, for the reasons you give above.
If you had read both the message on your talk page that I left, and the message on the article, you will see that the reason I gave for PRODing it was "Insufficient evidence of meeting WP:ORG notability guidelines" - nothing about bandwidth, but about notability. If you want to discuss the issue that I PRODed it for (notability), instead of having a go at me for a reason that I never mentioned (bandwidth), I am happy to do so. I would suggest that you read the Notability Guidelines and the Notability Guidelines for Organisations first. 18:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm saying that unless something is total spam why delete it? What does it hurt for it to exist? Daniel Christensen (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
If notability can be proven, then it can be kept in. If notability can't be proven, then why should it be kept in? The guidelines say that a company or organisation needs to be notable to merit an entry in Wikipedia. There are other wikis around with lower standards that those adhered to by Wikipedia (and people can quite easily create their own wikis, if it comes to that). As to "unless something is total spam" - where do we draw the line?
If you object to the PROD, you are within your rights to remove the PROD, just as other editors would be within their right to take this to AfD. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
RE:Coaching
I was never picked up officially for an admin coach. It's been a while and I sort of stopped editing waiting for one to come up. Go ahead and remove my name. I may try adminship again some day, but not right now. Undead Warrior (talk) 21:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll remove it as per your request -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi. How do I retrieve back an article that has been deleted. The title of the article was "Joget Workflow". I am new to this. Thanks. Jakkuku (talk) 04:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, the article Joget Workflow was tagged for proposed deletion by myself the 4th December — which meant that if the tag was still in place a week later, it could be deleted by an admin. In this case, the admin MrKIA11 (talk·contribs) deleted it on the 11th December.
However, I should point out that the reason that I proposed it for deletion was that it did not appear to meet the notability criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. The reason I gave for deletion was Non-notable software, with one reference that appears to be based on a press release. Before doing this, I looked for reliable, independent sources of information about the software, and couldn't find any.
Bearing this in mind, you can ask MrKIA11 to "userfy" it so that you can work on it in your workspace. Once it is ready, it could be moved to the main encyclopedia — however, it would be essential to find the reliable sources which I mentioned, otherwise it would be likely to end up deleted again!
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me again! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:22, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Talkback from Ukexpat (17 December 2009)
{{talkback|Wikipedia:Requests for feedback|Gilbert Thomas Carter}}
Surprised to see you posting there, but happy to respond. ukexpat (talk) 16:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I misspelled my own name in an email this morning, so if that's the worst mistake you make today you'll be beating my record :) Gonzonoir (talk) 11:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your efforts in trying to find a reliable source that discusses facepalm as a gesture. Unfortunately, both of the sources you cite discuss *facepalm* as a written expression or internet meme, not a gesture. I think, therefore, that the information more properly belongs at the page Facepalm (making it a stub article rather than a redirect), and not on a page devoted to "culture specific gestures that can be used as replacement for words". I suggest that you (and not I) should move the information in order to preserve attribution. Thanks again, Cnilep (talk) 15:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Fastily has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!
Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!
Thank you! (Classical Esther)
Thanks for helping me with my question! Classical Esther (talk) 02:59, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Welcome message (Daniel Christensen)
Why did you leave the welcome to wikipedia message on my talk page? It had a little flash animation, too in which the word "welcome" appeared in numerous ways. Daniel Christensen (talk) 08:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
My apologies! When I was leaving the "Proposed Deletion of Duntech" message, I accidently left my welcome message as well! However, I see that you have removed it anyway so no foul, no harm, eh? Regards -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:51, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the review. Just in case you were wondering, I was only planning to provide a Google Voice number =D. In regards to reviewing other editors, I'll definitely do that once I have more free time on my hands. Right now I'm in the process of recreating WP:ABUSE with a couple other people, which is taking up a lot of my Wikipedia time. Thanks for the review and happy holidays! Netalarmtalk 00:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm hoping to get a few reviews done next week - at the moment I think we have 6 editors who have not been reviewed at all so far, and all of those only put their requests up in the last fortnight! Happy holidays! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:39, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Gilbert Thomas Carter
On December 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gilbert Thomas Carter, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Hi Steve, I was getting help from Chzz but I see he is now unavailable. Chzz helped me create this page Centres_Against_Sexual_Assault but now it's got a note saying "This article needs additional citations for verification." I have lots of links eg to Victoria police, Department of Health etc all citing the CASAs but Chzz rejected these at the time of creating the page as he said they weren't reliable sources (I think that was the term he used). He wanted citations in newspapers etc which are harder to come by, hence the one used. I am unsure how to resolve this and what to add to the page to make it conform. Could you please help me or point me to someone who can? Thank you Peto Australis (talk) 23:27, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peto Australis. Firstly, when you are wanting to provide a link to a Wikipedia article within Wikipedia (including on talk pages), you don't need to use the full web address! Just use the format Article name.
Chzz is indefinitely away from Wikipedia for personal reasons (I'm hoping that he's back soon!), but he is quite right to say that we need reliable, independent sources. I'm busy at the moment with the kids (I'm sneaking a quick peek on Wikipedia while they have their breakfast!), but I'll look at this tonight or tomorrow (UTC). Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Phantomsteve, I have put some more references onto my talk page. When you get a chance could you have a look and let me know if they are useable? Thanks Peto Australis (talk) 01:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Phantomsteve, thank you for your comments about the references. I will look around some more to see what else I can find. Are references in paper books any good? I could also give you references where they are mentioned in Hansard which is the parliamentary record. As for moving it, I am not sure I'd do it right as I am still trying to get used to all the protocols and am concerned I'll muck it up and get the page banned or labeled as something which I don't understand yet. I would really appreciate it therefore, if you could copy and paste what you think is appropriate for this discussion. Perhaps by putting it there others may be able to assist with references or thoughts on what else to put in there to improve the piece. Thank you in advance for your time and input. It is very much appreciated. Peto Australis (talk) 05:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi again Phantomsteve, I have put in two more references. I am hoping I've put in enough details to make them easy to find. The heading is 'References 21 Dec 09'. Look forward to your thoughts. Thank you for helping me. Peto Australis (talk) 01:32, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Peto. I'll try to get a look at it later today or tomorrow. Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:18, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Quick look at User:Carmen2u/Lee Aase
Hi PhantomSteve:
I was taking a look at a couple of social media bio pages in comparison to the one I drafted on Lee Aase to see if I've hit the right tone. The two I referenced were Stowe Boyd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stowe_Boyd) and Guy Kawasaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Kawasaki). I think I've gotten close, but I'd like to hear your opinion as an experienced Wiki editor. Thanks for your input.
Hi, thanks for the message. If I get a chance to, I'll look at it today or tomorrow - otherwise it might not be for a week or so, due to the holiday! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 07:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy holidays!
Best wishes for the holiday season and the upcoming new year! –Juliancolton | Talk 16:46, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I'll second that. The same to you and yours! – ukexpat (talk) 18:07, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Enjoy the season!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
May this season bring you joy and cheer Steve! --Coffee // have a cup // ark // 18:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the review
Hiey Steve, thanks for taking the time to review me, I appreciate the depth you put into it. Happy holidays! ~SuperHamsterTalkContribs 00:24, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the review. I am on this late still, I just gave 2100hrs to be an estimate. I was wondering how you intended for me to help in WP:AN/WP:ANI/WP:RFA edits. I don't get that. The unspecified amount of time is only till about the weekend, I'm just not sure what day I am going to get back. Anyway, what do you think is a good time to start thinking about RfA, appox. like how many months? Again thanks. Replies after I get back. --MWOAP (talk) 03:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad it's not a long-term time away! With AN and ANI, look at the conversations going on there. If you feel that you have some insight or advice to add, do so. Despite their title, neither of them is purely for admin use! With regards to RfA, add your !vote in as many as possible — this has three benefits in my opinion: firstly, it gives you a chance to show that you have an understanding of what is expected of an admin — your !vote will show how well you can explain your opinion; secondly, your name will be noticed, so if you go for RfA then other editors will not think "who the hell is this, never seen them before"!; finally, you will see the kinds of things that people are looking for in an admin through the supports and opposes (and neutrals) of other RfAs — and that will help you to know if you really want to go through it yourself.
An RfA can be very emotional — especially if it does not go well! I've known a couple of editors who have either gone away for a long time, or (as of now) permanently left Wikipedia, following an unsuccessful RfA. I'd advise you to re-read the various guides to adminship (there are links on the RfA page, so I won't link to them here!) and maybe consider it in a few more months — you might like to get another editor review done at that time, before you submit an RfA, and see how it's going — in which case, specifically state at that ER that you are considering running for adminship, and that you would like a review based on that fact.
Feel free to contact me again for any advice (not just about RfAs!). Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Notification: Proposed 'Motion to Close' at Wikipedia:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC
re: a 'Motion to close', which would dissolve Cda as a proposal. The motion includes an !vote. You have previously commented at this page. Jusdafax 05:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the Christmas wishes
Have a great holiday yourself. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Relisting TfD discussions
Hi! I noticed that you added {{relist}} to a number of discussions here and here, but it does not appear that you completed the relisting by re-opening the discussion on today's daily log page. I don't know if you are saving to a text editor and waiting to relist them all at once, but I wanted to be sure that you were aware of the second step to relisting.
Thank you for letting me know! They are my first re-listings (as you probably guessed, without even having to look at my contribs!). I wasn't aware of the 2nd step - I just assumed that it would happen automatically! I'll sort those out now.
With regard to the "only one editor has commented", I guess I was going by AfDs and MfDs where one !vote would not generally be regarded as a concensus! I'll bear it in mind.
Once again, thanks for letting me know: I'll leave a new message here when I have relisted them in today's log pages, and would be grateful if you would check that I've done it correctly this time! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:19, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
All the debates which had at least one !vote I removed the "relist" for. The other ones I have copied to today's Log. If I have not done anything correctly, I'd appreciate it if you would let me know (I also need to look at cfds etc) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
It looks good. I closed the old TfDs in order to direct any future comments to the relisted discussions.
Also, you're right about AfD and MfD, where participation by at least a few editors (3-4 or more, including the nominator) is generally a prerequisite to deletion. For pages that serve a mostly technical function (templates, categories, and redirects) or that have clearly-defined criteria for deletion (files), however, a nomination that is supported by even one editor is usually sufficient to close the discussion. In some circumstances (primarily for files and redirects), simply being uncontested can be enough to delete.
Happy editing (and please feel free to contact me if there's anything with which you think I could help)! Cheers, –BLACK FALCON(TALK) 22:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Relisting discussions
I noticed you relisted some discussions on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 16 for the second time (that is a third week). That is a little unusual. It may be better to close the discussions as no consensus in such a case. This is my personal opinion, I do not know if there is any guidelines about this, but I wouldn't mind discussing it with others on Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion. Debresser (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions imposes a maximum of two relistings, so Phantomsteve's edits are within the limit. The policy does indicate that relisting "should not be a substitute for a no-consensus closure", but applies this principle to discussions involving substantial debate. –BLACK FALCON(TALK) 00:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for this reply. I shall await Phantomsteve's reaction as well, to see whether that was indeed his reasoning. Debresser (talk) 00:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick response... Thanks for contacting me, Debresser (and for replying, Black Falcon!) Here is why I thought each of the relisted items needed relisting:
Category:Wikipedia images by quality: 2nd relisting: I relisted this for two reasons: firstly, the previous week, an admin (Od Mishehu) has relisted it to generate more consensus, and there had been no further comments; secondly with the nomination there is 1 delete and 1 keep - so I thought as further week's discussion wouldn't harm. If there is no further comment during the next week, the closing admin can decide what to do!
IPFW athletics categories: I relisted this as there were 2 renames (including nominator) and 1 oppose -I felt that further discussion would be useful - if there had been no opposes (or at least one more rename with no further opposes), I would not have relisted. When I read the oppose, I felt that it was something that could benefit with input from more editors.
For what it's worth, although I feel that the relistings are justified, I'd have no objections if Black Falcon (or another admin) choose to over-ride my re-listing and close them appropriately. As Black Falcon says, the "do not use instead of a no-consensus closure" clause in the relisting guidelines refers to debates with substantial - in these cases, they could have been closed as no-consensus for the "images" category and as a "rename" for the athletics.
I trust this explains my rationale! May I wish you a peaceful, relaxing and enjoyable holiday! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:16, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I for one am not an admin, and not in the habit of closing disucssion, except on rare occassions, so we'll see if this second relisting brings new angles of view to the old questions. Debresser (talk) 11:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, Phantomsteve/temp/Archive 2014! May you be blessed with a full plate and a joyous spirit! I hope that this Christmas season is one of celebration and rest for you and your family. fetchcomms☛ 21:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
ryulong and treasurytag vandalizing pages on the discussion
Steve you can now see that both ryulong and treasurtytag have vandalized the page NUMEROUS times and then tried to cover it up. They have also sent to other mods that I did it. I have reported this. If I get banned for this there will be hell to pay and I guarantee ryulong and treasurytag will not be on this site anymore. Now steve they have vandalized numerous times the diffs I have posted against Coffee. I repeat, they have vandailized numerous times diffs I posted against Coffee. They then reported to another mod that I did it and they have deleted this off the history SEVERAL times. I already told an admin about it. You better do your job or I will raise serious hell over this and admin WILL be removed.Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 14:23, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
I was surprised that you left me a message here, as you told me not to post on your talk page!
I have responded on your talk page - but in short, there is no way in which those two could have done anything to the history of the page - even if oversighted, this would show as a struck-out entry (e.g. 20:56, 25 December 2009) which does not show on the history - and neither of those two users (Ryulong and TreasuryTag) have either admin or oversight permissions. I have also advised you (once your block is up) to let this drop and just carry on with the good editing of articles you have done. Incidently, I am not an admin. In future, if you want to see what user rights an editor has (such as admin), go to this page and just put in the user's name in the "User" box, and click on Go. The various types are:
autoconfirmed: account has existed for at least 4 days and has at least 10 edits (with this, the account can move pages, edit semiprotected pages, and upload files)
confirmed: same as autoconfirmed, but added to a user's account by an admin when the user has less than 10 edits or has existed for less than 4 days
bureaucrat: a bureaucrat - they can alter an editor's account to admin status (or bureaucrat status) following a successful RfA/RfB
steward: a steward - users with complete access to the wiki interface on all Wikimedia wikis, including the ability to change any and all user rights and groups. They are tasked with technical implementation of community consensus, dealing with emergencies, and intervening against crosswiki vandalism
rollback: can use the rollback function to revert vandalism
ipblock-exempt: not affected by autoblocks and blocks of IP addresses and ranges that aren't made with the "anonymous users only" setting
accountcreator: can create accounts for other users without restriction
oversight: can oversight - they can permanently hide revisions of pages from all users
checkuser: can check users - are able to view a list of all IP addresses used by a user account to edit the English Wikipedia, a list of all edits made by an IP, or all user accounts that have used an IP address.
There are a couple of other rights (edit filter manager, autoreviewer), but the above ones are the main ones you will see.
I would like to add that I have also done nothing wrong (apart from disagreeing with you, apparently), so if you feel that I have, then you are welcome to 'report' me - but please make sure that you provide diffs showing what I have done 'wrong' - however once your block has expired, I am willing to let this be all in the past. Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:17, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Would you mind stopping to use , etc. when commenting in an RfX? The community has long ago decided against such images in discussions (per Voting is evil and see related TFD at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/Deleted/June_2005#Template:Support_and_Template:Object_and_Template:Oppose) because they are increase page load times, make discussions seem like a vote, may distract from the actual comment itself and are generally adding nothing to the page except more text and a nice looking image that no one really needs. Unless you think your comments need to stand out amongst others, there is no reason to make them in such a way. Regards SoWhy 16:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
No worries, SoWhy! I was not aware of those discussions, and wasn't trying to make my comments stand out per se.
Question: In that case, shouldn't the tally counts not be shown at the top of Rfx? Showing them at the end, when the result is decided would be appropriate, but surely they shouldn't be there during the duration of the discussion? xfDs don't have them. Also, surely SoxBot shouldn't report the numbers either? Is there a reason why they are allowed? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes, that's an age old discussion. Logically, you are correct but somehow they have always been allowed to have a rough indication how the RFX is going, since RfX discussions, unlike deletion ones, have rough fail/pass percentage (e.g. <70% is usually fail and >80% is usually pass in an RFA). If you have a lot of time, you can check the WT:RFA archives for past discussions of that topic but it's probably sufficient to say that this is an issue where the community has decided that some vote counting is okay but not too much. Regards SoWhy 17:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying it! I wasn't being picky or anything - I was just genuinely puzzled! As for the symbols, I will no longer use them! Enjoy the rest of the holidays (I'm assuming you aren't just Wikipedia-ing! - I'm sneaking the odd five minutes here and there to keep abreast of what's happening, but not really doing much on WP). Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:48, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks...
...for that. We're very proud and happy for reaching this number. Greetings from Bonn --Sir James D (talk) 00:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
You're very welcome - it's a momentous figure to reach! Continue the excellent work -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
My RFA →→→
Dear Phantomsteve, here is a little note to say thank you for your kind vote on my request for adminship which failed with a final result of (40/19/12).
Thank you for your participation in my RfA which I withdrew after concerns of my knowledge of policy. Special thanks are owed to Coffee, who defended me throughout and whom I cannot thank enough for the nomination; to 2over0 for being supportive and helpful; to A Stop at Willoughby for the thorough, thoughtful and articulate support rationale; to IP69.226.103.13 for maintaining composure and for a pleasant interaction on my talk page and, last but not least, to Juliancolton who was good enough to close the RfA at my request and, frankly, because an editor whom I respect so much found the time to support me! If the need for more admins at the main page is still apparent in a few months, I may try again. Thank you all for a relatively drama-free RfA and for providing me with much material from which to learn from my mistakes. You're all welcome to drop by my talk page any time. God save the Queen Wiki! HJMitchellYou rang? 17:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Wanted to thank you for finishing the sorting and making sure the thing was in proper form[10], and I'll thank TreasuryTag as well for catching it orignally. I'm going to AGF on it too since I've always seen MF as obviously knowledgeable on discussion rules there's no reason at all to think they removed my comment in pure spite. I consider mine a reasonable comment on my part since the !vote given is a very IAR-style reason to oppose that may well have never previously been used at that high a level of discussion and I wanted to express my respect for the !vote compared to my original confusion. If inquiring about IAR-style opposes in a tight discussion is a problem, I'd rather MF have taken it up with me. No end harm done, and again my thanks.
...Being RCP-style reverted at an RfB discussion gave me my laugh for the day, at least. Cheers~ ♪daTheisen(talk) 12:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Please believe me when I say that no matter whether or not I agreed with your comments I would never have deliberately removed them. It was just an edit conflict cock-up, no malice intended. --MalleusFatuorum 12:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
That's what I'd assumed as I've never seen you do that with comments you disagree with! I just wanted to make it clear to others that it looked like an AGF issue to me! If you thought I meant any criticism of you, be assured that I did not! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
So all 4 involved persons are kind of running around in a circle holding up a sign saying "AGF" and a down arrow, pointed at self? Is everything so delightfully polite once the 'A'-name sysop turns to 'B' in discussion areas? Jeesh. Is edit warring via pillow fights? (Okay, know that's actually that great, but a comical thought compared to standard ANI shenanigans). Thanks to you both then :) ♪daTheisen(talk) 07:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I can not post or edit with WIKI PEDIA
Hi Phantom, I think my IP address was blocked by WIKI. I post this question by using other IP address. Could you check this range of IP: 202.79.27.X which I can not edit or post any article in wikipedia at all.
Thanks a lot for your kind response.
Regards, Borin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.15.90.130 (talk) 08:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
The block log shows:
11:20, 30 July 2007, Ryulong (talk·contribs) blocked [[11]] (talk) (no expiry set, account creation blocked) ({{blocked proxy}}: 202.79.24.0/21 )
I would suggest contacting Ryulong about it - I am not an admin, so I cannot really do anything about it! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
: 27 July 2009
Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
-- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Resolved
-- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 03:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
-- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
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etc. when commenting in an RfX? The community has long ago decided against such images in discussions (per Voting is evil and see related TFD at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/Deleted/June_2005#Template:Support_and_Template:Object_and_Template:Oppose) because they are increase page load times, make discussions seem like a vote, may distract from the actual comment itself and are generally adding nothing to the page except more text and a nice looking image that no one really needs. Unless you think your comments need to stand out amongst others, there is no reason to make them in such a way. Regards SoWhy 16:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
