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Rater

I am using User:Evad37/rater and I would not like to have articles I tag WikiProjects for to be on my watchlist. How can I prevent this from happening? I am not watching this page, so please ping me in your reply. Interstellarity (talk) 18:01, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity, per User:Evad37/rater#Preferences, you can set your preference on this within the Rater pop-up (click the gear icon in the top left). czar 18:26, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
@Czar: That is not helpful. I tried changing THIS, but it didn't work. Can you please tell me the exact code I need to put in my common.js file for it to work? Interstellarity (talk) 18:39, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity, delete that code from your common.js. When you open the Rater window, click the gear icon in the top left corner. Set "Add edited pages to watchlist" to "Never" and click "Update". Rater will save your preferences to User:Interstellarity/raterPrefs.json. Per User:Evad37/rater#Preferences, Rater v2 doesn't use common.js preferences. czar 18:52, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
@Czar: Thank you. That helps. Interstellarity (talk) 19:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: Sorry for the confusion, glad you sorted it out. Thanks for helping Czar - Evad37 [talk] 04:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
HNY - there was avery odd bit this evening when it didnt want to auto load a term at all - maybe while you were adjusting things? JarrahTree 14:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
HNY2U2. No updates to Rater since Dec 27 - it might have had trouble with weird formatting on a particular page? Or was it (not) happening on several pages? - Evad37 [talk] 19:58, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
cheers - not sure - it might have been at my end - will watch again soon JarrahTree 00:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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rater

is going very well, but perth-importance=low on something like Nicholson Road railway station makes no registration on the talk page - is that something that can be fixed relatively easily ? JarrahTree 10:34, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

That's more to do with the {{WikiProject Australia}} template than rater. From memory |Perth=yes adds both Perth and WA projects, and |Perth-importance= is an alias for |WA-importance=. Which is unintuitive and a bit weird, and possibly a remnant from when the Perth project was downgraded to a task force some years ago. - Evad37 [talk] 13:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
It would be great to have perth and brisbane importances fixed so that they functioned normally JarrahTree 13:44, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
thanks for the cleanup of the perth meetup material, much appreciated JarrahTree 09:55, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
btw in rater perth=y still invokes a wa tag as welll... any chance of separating out ? JarrahTree 10:24, 10 January 2020 (UTC):: have not put it to discussion - as from memory neither sydney or melbourne have the state tags accompanying the city project tags JarrahTree 10:36, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
I would be very keen to see the separation of the two - is it difficult to change template or whatever? JarrahTree 10:04, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
We have to figure out what structure to adopt, especially for articles currently tagged for WA using Perth parameters... see my post at WT:WA - Evad37 [talk] 01:37, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

ivytanks and cattle grids

actually feel very out of the tone of the article - I was considering a separate article about the 'early days' on the older track (the sa side was literally a sand track for a vast distance in the 70s it was murderous and cattle grids were something that could kill vehicles... - so maybe better in a separate article do you think? JarrahTree 14:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

hema maps (in the 1990s) had much better delineation of the 'old eyre highway' section between nullarbor petrol stop and yalata - I think it might be possible to find things relative to the conditions and the idiosyncracies of the inland route that it took - the current alignment is to the coast... one aspect of it is that is now completely located inside the nullarbor regional park in south australia and I think they have restricted access to it... JarrahTree 14:21, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I think an article for Old Eyre Highway would be good, and probably more appropriate than placing too much detail in the main highway article. Assuming there's enough WP:RS's. - Evad37 [talk] 14:25, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
brilliant item [1] is very encouraging - that is something that brings back memories of the damned cattle grids, and the sandy track on the sa side - I think I will excise the item in the main article immediately, thanks for your considering that ... JarrahTree 14:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
I havent, I can see your recentedit and will leave it - thanks - as you have provided very good context, I just wish my photos were easier to access,it will take me months or half a year to track them down... starting now - JarrahTree 14:47, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Re Old Eyre Highway, there's a map on page 7 of [2]. Not much else in the way of details, though. - Evad37 [talk] 14:49, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
the article now exists with trove links, scrappy start... at least it gets ivytanks out of the main highway article :) JarrahTree 15:27, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, as well as the meetup linkings btw - and apologies about messing up eyre highway - what is your thought on creating an eyre highway category for those places on it to be linked in that way ? JarrahTree 15:59, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Bon Marche Arcade

Thanks for the great work you've been doing on these heritage buildings.

I noticed when I was reading Bon Marché Arcade (was always curious about that place!) that two of the sources seem to disagree: the article is based on the Heritage Council report, but the ABC report on the renovations says it was built by someone else in 1895 and then extended by Brookman in 1901. Normally I'd go with the Heritage Council in the case of a disagreement, but the ABC story seems a bit specific to have just gotten their facts wrong (and isn't necessarily incompatible with what the Heritage Council says). Any chance you're able to reconcile the two? The Drover's Wife (talk) 08:14, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Done - I found a historical newspaper ref that provides more information. The heritage council presumably weren't aware of that source, though they did say nor has any other reference been found which indicates additions rather than a new building. - Evad37 [talk] 10:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

have been nuisance enough

rater seems to be not loading projects - have re-set firefox a few times, and it doesnt seem to be loading - could it be my java or something else? JarrahTree 09:17, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

then it goes back to normal, I am wondering if page refresh or something similar is needed at some point hen using over time? JarrahTree 09:52, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Not sure about this... bypassing your cache may help if it happens again. If there's a problem with Rater, there might be a message in your browser console (see #6 of WP:JSERROR) - Evad37 [talk] 09:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
it never seems to last long, so I am assuming there is something that is not particularly bad, it always comes good... must say it is the most brilliant device in my edit history to help assessment issues - trust the 'success stats' are good for it - if there are ways to measure its uasage JarrahTree 10:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Nope - it has happened more often, and I have been very careful in bypassing cache, even rebooting, there are times where nothing shows in the top line when trying to enter a new project... It is disconcerting to say the least. JarrahTree 00:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC) The with no fanfare it rebounds... JarrahTree 00:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Its weird that it stops and starts... not entirely sure why that would be. Are there particular pages where it doesn't work at all? - Evad37 [talk] 02:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
outside chance will be there tommorrow - will try to show you then... JarrahTree 02:49, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Link

https://catalogue.data.wa.gov.au/dataset/regional-development-commission-boundaries looks interesting JarrahTree 06:44, 19 January 2020 (UTC):

redlink at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:WikiProject_Western_Australia_South_West

also the assessment is still happening, is it possible to kill it? JarrahTree 10:59, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Fixed the redlink with a purge. Will need to do some more coding of Rater to prevent assessment dropdowns from showing when they shouldn't. - Evad37 [talk] 12:29, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
;) brilliant - saw it change in the middle of my editing - thanks JarrahTree 12:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

gah

trove has it in hammy hill and south freo in diff refs - and there is a link i emailed you elliptical but interesting saying it wa sbuilt in 1905 not 1912,... oops for - mithc - and - sam -JarrahTree 15:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Will take a look tomorrow. I wonder if the suburb boundaries have changed at all in the past 100 odd years? - Evad37 [talk] 15:22, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
regardless i have put refs in south freo and hammy hill to show the newspaper/trove evidence on the issue, cheers JarrahTree 15:37, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
[3] gives me the beegees - the date... JarrahTree 15:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
James Street one and a St Georges Tce one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Perth_Boys_School JarrahTree 03:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
The main PICA history has a sense it could be checked and re-done - and I find the Heritage info on Hackett Hall very limited, am I missing something ? 03:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


despite additions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Perth_articles_by_quality_log comes up empty, does that make sense? JarrahTree 09:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Not sure... might be that I only just followed the instructions to get the bot to create Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Perth articles by quality statistics... or it could be something else - Evad37 [talk] 12:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

weekend

AWNB - might be better with beginning sorry to bother looks like the weekend meetup is delayed - sorry about late notice JarrahTree 12:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

okay, thanks - Evad37 [talk] 13:03, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
I have more than you can ask for on this one, I will need patience, have lost trove items already due to edit conflicts :) ... JarrahTree 00:44, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
@JarrahTree: Sorry, just saw the broken wikitext. When you're done, I've uploaded File:Neil McNeil (1855–1927).png from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article38000852 which gives the date of death as 8 May 1927. - Evad37 [talk] 01:24, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
much more complicated and complex interrelationships with existing articles and other things JarrahTree 02:23, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2020

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 12

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true can of worms

I had met lindsay some years back - he was a historian of enthusiasm - his materials would link back to the older peet for sure:

Peet, Lindsay J. (Lindsay James) (1862), Lindsay J. Peet papers, retrieved 6 February 2020 - more info than needed I am sure ! JarrahTree 14:55, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Yeah. Looks notable enough for his own article too (listing links here mostly for my benefit: [5][6][7][8][9][10]) - Evad37 [talk] 15:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Excellent - he was slso awarded a prize (top floor on the left of the lifts, a list of people who did something for the archives/history/battye library) - and he was liked to a range of groups, not just the royals (rwahs)... his enthusiasm was magic !! JarrahTree 15:50, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
another - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waddy_Forest,_Western_Australia was the identified residential location for liebe when he died - see the two added obits this arvo... I suspect there is a variation of waddi as well - cheers JarrahTree 07:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Nat trust

have an un alpha list there now, it should be most of the properties and projects they like to say they have had things to do with... JarrahTree 12:22, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

It seems that I tried to do the redirect incorrectly, [11] perhaps it requires a 'please help'? - the revert felt like a rendition of Vogon poetry but then most other editors sound like vogons for that matter... JarrahTree 06:30, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: You use {{Category redirect}} to make a category into a redirect. Not sure its really needed here though... - Evad37 [talk] 09:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 13

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Hello everyone and welcome to the 13th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

I hope everyone is having a great year so far! --DannyS712 (talk) 15:53, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2020

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formally we need to close/shut/suspend

please note that - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice as wiki club west is a branch of the wmau which is funded by the wmf - all over for the moment JarrahTree 00:02, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the link - Evad37 [talk] 00:16, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
the formality of the issue might be lost on some, but the implication is we have received funding from wmau which in turn has from wmf, and to continue to have meetings would be tantamount to putting wmau funding at risk, imho. JarrahTree 00:24, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Churches

Hi, I suppose your request at the Churches infobox didn't get much feedback either? Perhaps now with more usage across Wikipedia and in infoboxes, that user's stance might change... Their idea of greater detail is the reverse; mapframe allows for way more detail... AS well, customizable preset zoom levels are part of mapframe as well. There was a recent discussion about pros and cons here; definitely clear positives there for mapframe. ɱ (talk) 01:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: Yeah, enough time has probably passed to revisit that and other infoboxes not using mapframe maps. Do you think it's worth trying to get a general consensus at a central venue like the village pump? - Evad37 [talk] 01:53, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, evidently the infobox talk pages aren't watched as often as they should be. ɱ (talk) 01:55, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Either that or try the talk pages of relevant wikiprojects; that might work better... ɱ (talk) 01:56, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Have you asked at {{Infobox park}}? That would be a very handy addition as well; I don't think there's -any- maplink ability for that template right now? ɱ (talk) 23:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Well, I guess map_image works, though it's not mentioned as supporting the maplink template anywhere in the infobox template's documentation... Your code would be preferable anyhow. ɱ (talk) 23:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: I was starting to go through Template:Buildings and structures infobox templates, I don't remember how far I got. Most didn't get too much feedback, but it was quite controversial for a couple of them. We should probably get a Wikipedia: namespace project page to track infoboxes for which mapframe maps would be relevant, rather than just using our talk pages. I'm thinking we could list infoboxes in a table, with some columns to indicate: Mapframe maps proposed (or date of proposal), consensus (pending / in favour / against), mapframe maps added to template, documentation updated – sort of like the Wikipedia:Coordinates in infoboxes page. - Evad37 [talk] 04:59, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Now created at Wikipedia:Mapframe maps in infoboxes - Evad37 [talk] 07:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 14

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

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New NodeJS bot framework

Hi, thought you might be interested in noting that I created a Node.js bot framework - mwn. Mainly to beat the lockdown boredom, but also because existing NodeJS bot libraries suck - they have limited very feature sets and use outdated methods and technologies (callbacks instead of promises, JSON with the old formatversion, etc). Since you're a expert JS user, your contributions would be very much appreciated! There is a list of open tasks if you want to help out. 20:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SD0001 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the note SD0001. It looks interesting, and I have been meaning to learn how to code a bot. I'm currently spending much of my time trying to finish off the XFDcloser version 4 rewrite (github repo). - Evad37 [talk] 11:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Good to know. Have you considered using the localhost import trick for testing? With that, you can test code from your local file without having to edit the on-wiki script page every time. Also, I'd suggest using the testwiki:, as there you can test outside userspace too, probably giving a more realistic environ (though you may have to import the required templates first). And lastly, user:enterprisey/undo-last-edit is convenient for quickly reverting test edits. SD0001 (talk) 14:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips, by the way. I've been hesitant in the past to use testwiki given how reliant the script is on templates and the rendered html of pages, and that I've already got test versions working in my userspace, but I decided to try it out. I'm still waiting for permissions on testwiki, and then I'll have to work out which templates need to be imported... - Evad37 [talk] 03:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed changes to MonthlyArchive - you may be interested

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A barnstar for you!

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 15

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Hello everyone and welcome to the 15th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Miscellaneous

Hope everyone stays safe. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020).

Administrator changes

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readded Callanecc

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readded HJ Mitchell

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West Australian Project Editor of the month - January 2020

Hi Evad37, by the evidence at [12] - you are the West Australian editor of the Month of January 2020 - thank you for your effort for producing such excellent work, in improving the content of the project with good application of the all the categorisation and project tagging not requiring any extra work. In these very strange times that we live, your work is inspiring in helping with making the Western Australia project a better place to work... JarrahTree 06:02, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

PR

Hi, I opened a https://github.com/evad37/modular-wiki-userscript-base/pull/2 PR] on your fantastic modular-wiki-userscript-base git repo. SD0001 (talk) 10:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for your rater! Thanks to them I could sort all 1200 unrated Germany articles in less than 3 days! TheImaCow (talk) 10:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).

Administrator changes

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removed SQL

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

  • A motion was passed to enact a 500/30 restriction on articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.
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I put this through MfD because these technically are not templates, so they do not belong in TfD. Aasim 12:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Mapping

Hi again - are you able to weigh in/add to the template, at Template talk:Infobox civil conflict#Supporting other map types? Thanks - ɱ (talk) 14:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020

Hello Evad37,

Your help can make a difference

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Mapframe errors

Hello. I see a lot of "Lua error in Module:Infobox_mapframe at line 24: Tried to write global trimArgs." E.g. Philip de Lange House. Is that from your edits at Module:Mapframe. Christian75 (talk) 09:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Probably; I've reverted for now - Evad37 [talk]
 Fixed - Evad37 [talk] 09:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the fast reaction :-) Christian75 (talk) 11:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 16

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past two months (May and June 2020).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 16th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

If anyone else would like to contribute to future issues, please comment at Wikipedia talk:Scripts++. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Automatic mapframe in infoboxes

Hi - does the automatic mapping, say at {{infobox museum}}, allow for shapes instead of points? I think I want to remove the point at National Veterans Memorial and Museum, in favor of the shape... ɱ (talk) 04:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

It is possible to turn off point markers in Module:Infobox_mapframe but infobox templates will need to be updated to use {{#invoke:Infobox mapframe|auto}} instead of {{Infobox mapframe}} to make all current (and any future) options available – in this case |mapframe-point=none. - Evad37 [talk] 06:44, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Only read this now - does this mean it's not preferable to do this? Instead could we add a "map_image" parameter to the infobox (as well as infobox building) to allow the maplink template to be used with "type=shape"? ɱ (talk) 18:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Using the #invoke method would be preferable – less code within the infobox template itself, and it makes all the optional parameters available. - Evad37 [talk] 00:22, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good. Will that affect standalone use of the infobox mapframe template? ɱ (talk) 01:00, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: No. And now I've switched over {{infobox museum}} to use the invoke method - Evad37 [talk] 01:44, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Alright, cool, thanks. ɱ (talk) 03:52, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Mapframe parameters

Hi again, so with the RfC doing well to end up with many more infoboxes getting mapframe parameters, I'd like to ask if we can try to standardize a little better. For the automatic mapframe parameters, we've been so far using hyphens between words. Is there any specific reasoning for it? Other infobox parameters almost universally have underscores between words - see {{infobox museum}} as an example. As well, there, we have several yes/no statements, but while the "mapframe=" parameter uses "yes" and "no", the shape/point/line parameters use "none" and/or "on"... Ideally users could put either (yes or on / no or none) to trigger the correct end result, or instead I think we should just standardize to yes/no only. I'm trying to think of other small things that have come up... ɱ (talk) 15:26, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

The hyphens are matching what Module:Mapframe uses for multi-word parameter names, which I think came about from the hyphens needed for stroke-width etc when using <mapframe>...</mapframe> tags directly. But it should be relatively easy to allow either hyphens or underscores to be used. I agree that yes/no makes more sense than on/none for those parameters, not quite sure what I was thinking when I coded that. - Evad37 [talk] 02:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Alright, cool. For sure I've already often typed the underscores into the infoboxes, not remembering they need to be hyphens for maplink-related parameters. ɱ (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox mapframe

I suppose for {{infobox mapframe}}, I would recommend also making it work as {{infobox maplink}}, given that {{maplink}} works, and maybe a shortcut like {{IB map}}. As well, the latter template uses "type=(shape/point/line/data)", but here we use "(shape/point/line)=none"? Are these both needing to use different formats or can they be aligned? ɱ (talk) 15:32, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Template redirects are easy enough to create if desired (not sure how useful they'll be, if following the RFC most infoboxes are modified to use the module directly). I don't think the formats can be aligned, since Template:infobox mapframe is just for one feature, with binary on/off options for displaying as a point/line/shape, while Template:maplink allows an arbitrary number of features, each of which is of a specific type. - Evad37 [talk] 03:01, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Alright, well still some users might prefer to code out their own, perhaps especially for features the direct way doesn't support (like would Genoa Park and its sister articles ever be possible that way?) I'm curious, why do the two templates behave differently in that way? Maplink still allows multiple features/feature types, like with the above example... ɱ (talk) 03:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Infobox mapframe is designed just to make it simpler to use for most articles, with maplink always available if a more customised map is desired. With infobox mapframe, since features are displayed automatically, there needs to be a way to turn them off, where is with maplink, if you don't want a feature displayed you simply do not include it in the parameters. - Evad37 [talk] 08:50, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

apology

probably should be at the app talk page - rater is opening in some qld articles and showing 'disambiguation page' and no ores setting - suspect a glitch perhaps ? odd - my recent edits it is disambig each time when I open... JarrahTree 08:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Currently the script detects disambiguation pages by matching the names of templates against a search pattern, so one of the templates being used must be generating a false positive. I think I really need to find a better detection method to prevent false positives (and perhaps also false negatives). - Evad37 [talk] 09:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) page props and the api should be enough - compare a dab page and a non-dab page DannyS712 (talk) 09:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Trying to look at the issue - the place names could well have some relationship with disambig pages - as the set of place names are obviously multiple article names - such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windermere,_Queensland.
As for positives and falsity, I regress to unknown unknowns and realise it can only get worse... JarrahTree 14:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 Fixed. Thanks for the tip DannyS712, but I ended up using a prop:"categories" query to check for Category:All disambiguation pages, so I could in the same way check for GAs, FAs, FLs, and stubs without having an additional api query. - Evad37 [talk] 13:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
I think I have just had a short circuit on this one [13] is that a reducible by any means item, or is it a complexity of implying... or some puns or whatever? any explanation or answer is appreciated... JarrahTree 14:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Problems with GeoGroup

We are having some problems with the GeoGroup or GeoGroupTemplate. It is not mapping all the inline coordinates in an article. It only maps if there is just one title coordinate and no inline coordinates. That sound sort of silly to just be able to map one coordinate. See National Register of Historic Places listings in Dakota County, Minnesota. -- Talk to G Moore 01:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).

Administrator changes

added Red Phoenix
readded Euryalus • SQL
removed Jujutacular • Monty845 • Rettetast • Madchester

Oversight changes

readded GB fan
removed Keegan • Opabinia regalis • Premeditated Chaos

Guideline and policy news

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

not seeing the inactives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Sports_organisations_of_Qatar - it would be so useful to see inactives when utilising rater on items such as this... JarrahTree 08:13, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry JarrahTree, I haven't yet coded that feature - been a bit busy with other things, and then took a short wikibreak. Still plan to do it, not sure when - Evad37 [talk] 03:08, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
whenever, no big deal - sometime is good as any... JarrahTree 08:52, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
@JarrahTree:  Done. You'll need to wait for the cache to update (around a day or so), or you can open Rater, go the settings (cog-wheel at the top-left), then click the red "Reset cache" button. - Evad37 [talk] 09:56, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
I see you've already received numerous barnstars for your Rater script, though I feel you deserve another. Great work. If only I knew about this in the past.. 0qd (talk) 15:11, 9 August 2020 (UTC))

duplinks-alt.js

So all the sudden recently, like for one week, this script has stopped highlighting; nothing relevant show up in the javascript console. I've cleared cache, different device (ChromeOS and Windows 10), different browser (Chrome and Opera), went into safe mode and copypasted the script into the JavaScript console. I think this script is now broken; you haven't changed it in nearly 600 days. Could you look into this before the MOS:DUPLINK virus takes over Wikipedia? Can I Log In (talk) 05:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Can I Log In: It works for me, e.g. on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corrente_di_Vita&oldid=970295597 – are you sure the page your are checking actually has duplicated links? - Evad37 [talk] 07:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Hmmm, it works all the sudden, even the Jan 24, 2019 version. I swear to god I tested all troubleshooter. This revision definitely had duplicate links when it "broke" for me, so either I'm blind or some other technical issue. If it works, it works. :D Can I Log In (talk) 15:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

TimestampDiffs

For some reason, TimestampDiffs prevents User:DannyS712/DiscussionCloser from working. Any idea why? --DannyS712 (talk) 15:22, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

It's rewritting the html of the .mw-parser-output element so that each timestamps gets wrapped in a span. This causes event handlers to become detatched, so TsDiffs re-fires the "wikipage.content" hook (which fixed WP:NAVPOPs that was similarly broken).
You can add on a function that runs each time the hook fires per mw:RL/CM#mw.hook - just be aware that various things can fire the hook, so you should check that the $content parameter (a jQuery object containing new/updated element) actually has something your script is interested in, ie use something like $content.find(yourSelector) and then do something to eachelement in that set, or check .length>0 for that set.
Or if you can think of a way to efficiently wrap timestamps that doesn't remove event handlers, I would be intetested in that. - Evad37 [talk] 23:42, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
On the other hand, it causes User:BrandonXLF/QuickEdit to fire twice (the "quick edit" button shows up twice for each section -- both buttons being functional). Also TsDiffs is incompatible with Comments in Local Time gadget which wraps all timestamps in a span. Nice script, anyway, though I think the timestamp links would be better to have on-demand rather than in an always on state (maybe make that configurable?). — SD0001 (talk) 04:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 17

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past two months (July and August 2020).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 17th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Stay safe --DannyS712 (talk) 19:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).

Administrator changes

added Eddie891
removed Angela • Jcw69 • Just Chilling • Philg88 • Viajero

CheckUser changes

readded SQL

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Static map

Map
Visited countries

I've seen Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mapframe_maps_in_infoboxes and I have a question. Do you think is possible to generate dinamically a static map that highlight a certain number of countries? (Please ping me when answer) Let me know, --Andyrom75 (talk) 15:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Andyrom75: It's sort of possible... assuming you know the Wikidata ids (Q-numbers), or can generate them with a SPARQL query, you can use {{mapframe}} to generate a map with those countries as shape or line features. The output will be the standard static map, with a button to open the full screen dynamic map. If you really want it to only be static, there may be a way to hide that button using TemplateStyles (but the dynamic map might still be accessible via double clicking, or tapping if on a mobile device. To get a truly static image, you would have to manually save the generated image and upload it as file (but then it wouldn't dynamically update if the OSM map changes). - Evad37 [talk] 00:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I've generated the list with SPARQL (https://w.wiki/bVH) and I've created Template:Country2wd that seems to work.
What I'd like to do, is to create a template that will accept as input the name of the Countries, or the their relevant ISO codes to show the map. I've created Template:VisitedCountriesMap but unfortunately this time it doesn't work. Here a test. Any suggestion? --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Forget it, just my clerical mistake. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
I've tried to export these two templates in it:voy: (see it:voy:Template:VisitedCountriesMap and it:voy:Template:Country2wd) but unfortunately I can't get the same result. The problem is that template:maplink differs from it:voy:template:maplink. According to your knowledge, can I modify the VisitedCountriesMap code without affecting maplink? This template is largely used in Wikivoyage and I don't want to change it. As a B plan I need to create a second maplink template but if possible I would avoid this approach. Any suggestion? --Andyrom75 (talk) 15:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
You might be able to use the mapframe tag directly without the template/module, but then you have to use the {{#tag:}} parser function rather than the tag itself, and the raw tag content has to be strictly correct (the module here cleans up control characters which tend to break the json parsing). - Evad37 [talk] 23:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
I understand the idea, but for some reason I'm not able to replicate the map I've inserted here as example, with the {{#tag:mapframe. Is it something that you can easily show me to see the right syntax? --Andyrom75 (talk) 07:52, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Finally it works (unnecessary "hidden" newline in Country2wd template). Now I have the following challenge.
The map is not static on Wikivoyage, just here. There's maybe a specific parameter that I have to add to force it? (see it:voy:Template:VisitedCountriesMap) --Andyrom75 (talk) 15:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Map

@Andyrom75: All mapframe maps are dynamic rather than static for Wikivoyages. Wikipedias and most other wikis have static thumbnails for performance reasons, but that might change at some point in the distant future. There isn't really much we can do about it (though usually the complaint is the lack of dynamic maps rather than static maps). - Evad37 [talk] 11:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Got it. Actually I've seen that Kartographer can be configured server side to produce dynamic or static map, but I've thought it was just a default status that can be changed through a parameter.
As you said, normally we always use dynamic map, but since the template (currently) shows just the visited countries a static view is enough and clearly it's quicker to render.
However, thanks for your time. If you heard any update, please ping me :-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 11:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Bug report

Hey, After installation of User:Evad37/TimestampDiffs when I edit any page and a use preview button to review my edits, preview does not appear. I uninstalled the script and then tried the same and it works. So it looks like script somehow mess with preview of edits. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 10:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

The script by itself shouldn't be affecting whether preview appears (just the content within the parser output)... but there do seem to be a few other scripts that cause conflicts when both are used together. Or it could be a gadget, or perhaps even your preferences for preview (bottom of Special:Preferences § Editing). - Evad37 [talk] 01:20, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Backup Signpost publication manager

Hi Evad, could you add me back to the Signpost publication script? I might be needed tomorrow to do the publication of the September issue. Thanks. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done - Evad37 [talk] 15:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Use with VisualEditor

I don't think this tool was envisaged for use with the VisualEditor, but it works very well—congratulations and thanks to the author on a very useful tool. It is more convenient to find and remove duplicate links this way; they are highlighted, click on them and click the "link" icon, much easier than a standard Wikipedia editor. There is an old comment at User talk:Evad37/duplinks-alt.js#Implementation for source editing mode to which I added on 18 September 20, but possibly that page is not monitored. The gist of my comment:

"Last year I described the usefulness of this script with the Visual Editor on the user page; it is much easier to remove duplicates this way than in edit mode. So, even if one uses the source editor for most purposes, it's worth using the visual editor for finding and fixing duplicate links.

There is one issue, either a quirk (if it can't be fixed) or a forwards compatibility issue (if it can)[added 28 Sep 20: it is a quirk, and can't be fixed, see response below]: when used with the visual editor, removing any link within a paragraph removes the highlight on all other duplicates within that paragraph. Not a major issue, either remember all the links in a paragraph, or repeat the highlighting, but if it is easily fixed, I'd suggest that it's worth it."

Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Pol098. The issue you describe is due to way VisualEditor works, whereby in the HTML it rewrites the whole paragraph (thus losing the changes the duplinks script makes) when you edit inside that paragraph. There isn't any easy way for the script to detect when this has occurred, unfortunately. - Evad37 [talk] 23:28, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020).

Administrator changes

added Ajpolino • LuK3
readded Jackmcbarn
removed Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
renamed There'sNoTime → TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

OOUI question

Hi. Over at WP:Articles for creation/Submitting, while selecting the WikiProject classification tags, I see that when the dropdown opens above the input field, some parts of the WP interface show up over the list of suggestions (screenshot). I noticed the same issue doesn't occur in rater which has a similar lookup menu.

Do you know how to fix it? The code is at user:SD0001/AFC-submit-wizard.js (called via Mediawiki:AFC-submit-wizard.js) I know it has something to do with overlays but couldn't figure exactly what. – SD0001 (talk) 21:40, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

@SD0001: Its the z-index, Vector (and maybe some of the other skins) uses values of up to 100. The solution is to use an overlay with a higher z-index, eg 110. An overlay is just a jQuery element you create and attach to the DOM, usually a $("<div>") appended to the body element. OOUI then uses that element to present content such as popups without being limited by the edges of dialogs and/or with the proper stacking order (z-index). Let me know if you need help with the coding, and I'll take a look when I am at a desktop computer. - Evad37 [talk] 10:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, that helped! Also had to put position=absolute in addition to z-index. – SD0001 (talk) 17:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Another question

Hi - you've been very helpful with my mapframe inquiries so far, thanks for your willingness and assistance. I have one new obstacle - similar to the Ohio Statehouse map template, I had created {{Scioto Mile map}}. I wanted it to replace individual maps at:

Though I had added a tenth shape to each one to show the boundaries. Is there a way to still do this using {{Scioto Mile map}}, perhaps as a parameter for a tenth entry? Or will I have to simply add all the boundaries into this general map? ɱ (talk) 20:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: You should be able to add just one shape that takes the value for |from10= and |title10= from parameters – or if all the maps on commons have the same names as the articles, you should be able to do |from10={{PAGENAME}}.map |title10={{PAGENAME}} - Evad37 [talk] 09:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I'll try it! ɱ (talk) 12:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Works well, thanks again. ɱ (talk) 14:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I suppose this actually has a problem - the main Scioto Mile article doesn't display the map on desktop or mobile, I think likely because there is no "from11=" to correspond to it like the others have. Should I create a dummy "Scioto Mile.map" Commons page that's devoid of markers, or is there a better way to solve this? ɱ (talk) 02:02, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Creating the dummy worked, but if you can find a better way I would go with that. ɱ (talk) 13:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Enabling mapframe

Hi Evad37 - I know putting mapframe on all the templates here will be a large task to process, but would you be able to more, especially the three labeled "Needed"? I've been working with those templates for a long time, and there's a need for it now! ɱ (talk) 13:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I'll try to do some in the next couple of days (maybe tomorrow). The main thing that needs to be decided on an case-by-case basis is the placement (but if the infobox already has another type of map, the mapframe map can probably just be positioned straight after unless/until there's a local consensus for a different placement) - Evad37 [talk] 13:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I strongly think we should just place mapframe maps where pushpin maps already have consensus to be. If anyone objects to that, I think pretty unlikely, then we could always have a discussion from there. ɱ (talk) 13:55, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, would you be able to add "mapframe-custom" to {{Infobox artwork}}? Trying to add a custom mapframe to a bunch of Ohio Statehouse articles. ɱ (talk) 16:18, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Okay I think I added mapframe-custom by updating the infobox like you recently did to the monuments infobox. How would I add to {{Ohio Statehouse map}} to make each page's marker be normal size as opposed to small? ɱ (talk) 02:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
You should be able to do something like marker-size4={{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|These Are My Jewels|medium|small}} for each one - Evad37 [talk] 02:13, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Nice, thank you! Should have tried this based on the marker color code I borrowed from the Central Park map... ɱ (talk) 02:21, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

If I want to do this sort of marker scaling or coloring historic districts in a Commons data page, how can I do that? Trying to use Commons:Data:CRHP.map (transcluded at {{CRHP map}}) on article infoboxes to highlight historic districts and their boundaries. For whatever reason, I'm now finding just adding maplink transcluding the data page into articles works a lot better than using the template I created, but still not sure how to color for articles...) ɱ (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Also not fully sure why the markers aren't displaying small in Wikipedia when the code mirrors Commons:Data:CFD stations.map, which does display them small at Columbus Division of Fire. ɱ (talk) 14:46, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: If you're using data from commons, you can't change sizes, colours, etc directly. What you can do instead is either:
(1) display additional features, which will be drawn on top of the map data from Commons, and could vary based on either PAGENAME or a parameter;
(2) copy each feature into it's own .map file on commons, with color and size specified, and have use both the all-features map and the article-specific map; or
(3) recreate the map data as a template on Wikipedia, specifying each feature in {{maplink}} parameters like at {{Ohio Statehouse map}}. Not too sure what's up with the sizing thing. - Evad37 [talk] 01:39, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Huh, I would have assumed there would be a sort of {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|My Jewels|medium|small}} for Commons, and to specify enwiki. Well... I have been avoiding option 2 just because it's more work and many more data files than this current way. Option 1 would require a sort of colored marker above the original shape to indicate the historic district I suppose, because I wouldn't have an easy way to paste in all those coords anywhere to form a colored shape above the original shape from Commons. Option 3 could work but would also be probably by far the most work to accomplish, and would probably require the historic districts to be in their own data files anyhow? I suppose I'll go with creating some individual data files on the historic districts, and just leave this map for the main article. Thanks for fielding all my questions, you're the most knowledgeable and helpful person regarding mapframe that I've worked with. ɱ (talk) 01:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Another option would be to store the map data as a subpage of Wikipedia:Map data, and then you could use {{#if:}}s and magic words like PAGENAME - Evad37 [talk] 01:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Hm, interesting - I've never done that. Would it be something like pasting the existing Commons data into Wikipedia:Map data/CRHP, and then adding, instead of like "stroke": "#ff0000",, it would be "stroke": {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|German Village|#666666|#ff0000}}", ? ɱ (talk) 02:10, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Also, does the maplink template even support Wikipedia data files? If not, would the raw <mapframe> be able to handle it? ɱ (talk) 02:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: It would just be the data part of the .map page on Commons, not the metadata stuff like licence, description, and source which commons requires (instead that goes inside <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags at the top of the page), but in essence yes. Probably also better to use name rather than the abbreviation for the subpage - no reason not to make it obvious what the data is for. The syntax for the template is {{maplink|raw={{Wikipedia:Map data/SUBPAGE}}}}, along with the regular parameters for frame etc. Using the plain <mapframe>...</mapframe> tag is tricky... you would have to use {{#tag:}} syntax so that the transclusion gets properly expanded, and you have to be careful with regards to line breaks and control characters which can break the strict JSON formatting that mapframe requires. - Evad37 [talk] 02:40, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Right, I'll try this and get back to you... ɱ (talk) 02:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Wow, it takes a lot of trial and error for me to get it to work. Syntax errors are difficult enough to fix in Commons, but it's near-impossible to find stray brackets on Wikipedia. Do I need to remove any/all of the spacing from the Commons file? Looks like it still works... ɱ (talk) 03:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

(←) So I think the code for setting the stroke breaks the map, not sure why: here. ɱ (talk) 03:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Do you know how to get this working? I can't see what the error is. ɱ (talk) 14:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems the quotation marks need to go inside the #if, #ifeq, or #switch rather than the outside, e.g {{#if:{{{1|}}}|"#0034ff"|"#ff0000"}} instead of "{{#if:{{{1|}}}|#0034ff|#ff0000}}" - Evad37 [talk] 14:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Nice, thanks! Finally no obstacles to this mapping project. ɱ (talk) 17:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Mapframe enquiry

Hi Evad37, I noticed you added mapframe to Infobox shopping mall, would you be interested in doing the same for Infobox school? These maps look far better than the terrible looking pushpin maps. I'm going to start a discussion at some point on removing pushpins map altogether from the template and replace with mapframe. Please let me know, thanks Steven (Editor) (talk) 20:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Steven (Editor): Sure, I can add mapframe map capability. I am working my way through the list at WP:Mapframe maps in infoboxes, but will do requests also. Since that infobox is template-protected, I'll edit the sandbox later today or tomorrow, and leave a note on the talk page (just about adding mapframes, not removing anything). If there's no concerns raised, I can then make the edit to the live template a few days later. - Evad37 [talk] 22:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you and I see, I look forward to it. The other question I have is would it be possible to make it collapsible in the Infobox, so it’s basically hidden and to see the map, you would have to click on “Show map” or something like that? The reason I’m asking is because this Infobox has three images that can be displayed at the top before the current pushpin map and address – logo, seal and image; most articles will have one or two used, I’ve never come across one with all three. Anyway, when two are used and then you have the map, it makes the Infobox too long at the top. But if this is not possible that’s ok.
I’ll be doing another discussion after on the removal of pushpin, you will notice on the talk I’m already working on a huge cleanup Steven (Editor) (talk) 00:23, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Just wanted to thank you for your XfdCloser tool. It is so usefull. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 10:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Todo

Hey, this looks like a great tool User:Evad37/ToDoLister. Is there a way to make that list private, like a watchlist?VR talk 21:05, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vice regent: Thanks. A private list isn't really possible without storing the data off-wiki, which would be more complicated than this script which is effectively just automating the editing of a user subpage. - Evad37 [talk] 02:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok. I wonder how do watchlists work? They're private, right? VR talk 03:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
And could the page be such that its only visible to the user and admin, but not to everyone else? VR talk 03:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Watchlists are a built-in feature of the MediaWiki software. There isn't any way to prevent anyone from seeing the content of a page on Wikipedia, protection only prevents editing. - Evad37 [talk] 03:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
So my proposed change would have to be made at MediaWiki? Is there a forum for suggesting changes to them? VR talk 17:06, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vice regent: It doesn't necessarily need to be a built-in part of MediaWiki, just the storage of the list items needs to be offsite, with some authentication to ensure that the lists can only be accessed by their creators. It would be possible with a Toolforge tool using mw:OAuth authentication, but I don't currently have the time to take on such a project. You can try asking at WP:SCRIPTREQ, or at WP:VPT, or if you want to request a built-in MediaWiki version, then you could file a task request per mw:How to report a bug - Evad37 [talk] 10:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Multiple reverts and unecessary threats

Hi, sorry to bother you. I've had my edits on article Raw Foodism reverted numerous times and people have insulted and threatened to report or block me, even though I've been following wikipedia's policies and haven't insulted anyone in the process. Going through the articles related to dispute resolutions brought me to your user page. I wonder what dispute resolution would be more appropriate to my case since I am not familiar with what venue has proven to be more efficient when it comes to dispute resolution. The disputes have happened on the articles Raw Foodism, its talk page, my talk page and another user's talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Raw_foodism, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Psychologist_Guy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_foodism, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wikieditor1377. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Wikieditor1377 (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Wikieditor1377. I don't currently have time to look thoroughly into your case, but I hope I can point you in the right direction. Firstly, if you are editing articles related to medicine and health, then the sourcing standards are particularly high, per WP:MEDRS. Secondly, sometimes the consensus doesn't agree with you, even if you're sure you are right (in whatever way) – if you find nobody else agreeing with you, sometimes you need to take a step back and leave it be. That said, if you have a dispute, then the way to resolve is through discussion, staying in the top few sections of this triangle.
  • For content disputes:
    • Normal collaborative editing does include reverts, which usually aren't personal – you make an edit, someone else who disagrees with it reverts, and then you bring it up for discussion on the talk page (WP:BRD). The edit, or a similar edit, can be reinstated if consensus can be reached on what should be added/edited in the article.
    • If that doesn't resolve the issue, you can bring the matter up for wider discussion on a wikiproject's talk page. These are usually listed in the banners at the top of the talk page, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. This allows editors interested in the general topic, but not watching the article you are editing, to get involved, which can help resolve disputes. Alternatively, or subsequently, Request for comment can similarly get a broader set of editors from across wikipedia to comment on particular content issues.
    • If you feel like regular discussions are not making progress due to a lack of structure, or that they would benefit from having a neutral person keep everyone on-topic and facilitate compromises, then you can try making a request at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard.
  • For conduct issues (insults, incivility, etc), you should follow the steps at Wikipedia:Civility#Dealing with incivility.
Hope that helps - Evad37 [talk] 20:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I'll look into which would be the appropriate venue to deal with this issue on an effective way. I've used references from the International Agency for Research on Cancer, Harvard, Oxford and others and they got reverted anyway just because they dislike the facts stated. The dispute has involved me and two other editors. My idea would be to leave both sides of the arguments on the page, and not only one which is how it stands currently on the page. Wikieditor1377 (talk) 21:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

watchlist nightmare

I dont seem to get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evad37/Watchlist-openUnread to work - any clues or examples as tpo how to deal with the issue of an oversize list ??? JarrahTree 09:09, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to have bothered, I think I have sort of got a bit of it, but please dont bother, I think I need severe surgery on my watchlist - no one anywhere seems to say what the optimal size to not get the message of: too much. JarrahTree 09:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: If you get desperate, there is a button to clear (completely empty) your watchlist at Special:Preferences / watchlist tab (though I'm not sure if it works when you're getting the too big message) - Evad37 [talk] 23:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020).

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 18

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past three months (September, October, and November 2020).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 18th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Updated scripts Twinkle has made a number of improvements, including using a change tag to identify actions made with it and automatically filing edit requests for protected XfD nominations.
SD0001's shortdescs-in-category is now compatible with scripts modifying category listings, such as Equazcion's CatListMainTalkLinks
GhostInTheMachine's TalkHelper2 is a newer version of their prior script, TalkHelper
GeneralNotability's spihelper updated to 2.2.10, fixing a number of small bugs, automatically tagging globally locked socks as such in the sockpuppet template, and restoring open cases following an SPI history merge.
Enterprisey's script-installer gadget has been updated with more internationalization of messages, as well as addition of a user preference, window.scriptInstallerInstallTarget to allow controlling where new scripts are to be installed.

Open tasks

Miscellaneous

My apologies for the delayed issue. As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, help is appreciated. Stay safe, --DannyS712 (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey

Hey again, just saw that the Community Wishlist Survey is open again for nominations. Do you think any of my ideas on the running list of maplink problems should be added - is it within their scope? One particular thing I can think of is a new and expanded set of icons. I've alone spotted a great many ways it needs to be fixed! ɱ (talk) 05:54, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ɱ: Sure, go ahead - even if not selected by the Community Tech team, it lets other WMF teams and volunteer developers know that the community is still interested in mapframe maps. To get the best chance of being picked, the proposal(s) should try to be high-impact (so it gets votes from the community), but not to big or diverse or difficult (which isn't necessarily easy to judge, but these factors would make it more likely to be skipped over by the com.tech team). - Evad37 [talk] 00:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
@Evad37: - thanks, working on it here. Once live, I'll perhaps try to ask people to comment - could you raise it to other maplink folks, or at relevant project spaces? ɱ (talk) 00:17, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
If/when you think this is good to go, I'll move it. ɱ (talk) 00:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Looks pretty good, should probably just make it about <mapframe> and <maplink> maps - that enwiki uses Template:Maplink to insert those is kind of beside the point - it can be mentioned, but really the icon improvements should not be dependent on which specific templates/modules are in use on any particular wiki - Evad37 [talk] 06:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Agreed, thanks. Now live here. ɱ (talk) 15:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Do you think I should add to this CWS proposal the ability to have no icon? I know that is standard, but in infoboxes with a default icon, like {{infobox museum}}, I believe there is no way to go back to having no icon there. Can you look into this? Also, please let me know any ideas for spreading word about the proposal on mapping spaces! Best, ɱ (talk) 00:30, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
No, that's something to be handled locally by templates/modules. The default for when using the <mapframe> tag directly is no icon, unless an icon is specified - Evad37 [talk] 23:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Right, yeah. So using infobox museum, you think there is no way to display a map that doesn't have an icon (except perhaps when using "mapframe-custom"?) ɱ (talk) 23:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
No, what should happen is for the module to recognise that something like |marker=none or |marker=_ or similar means that it shouldn't pass through any value for the icon - Evad37 [talk] 23:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ:  Done, I ended up going with blank. That will work anywhere the Mapframe or Infobox mapframe modules or templates are used. - Evad37 [talk] 00:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

A suggestion for MoveToDraft

Hello Evad. Since there’s now a bot that tags drafts moved from mainspace, would it be possible to incorporate the template it applies into the script? Possibly, in the same edit as the AfC submission tag? This would be the {{Drafts moved from mainspace}} template if it helps. Thanks! Jalen Folf (talk) 11:35, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Should be possible, but I am busy in real life and might not get around to it until December. - Evad37 [talk] 00:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 Done - Evad37 [talk] 02:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Mapframe templatedata

Re Template:Infobox mapframe/doc/templatedata is this part ("coordinates. coord") a typo? 

		"mapframe-coordinates": {
			"aliases": [
				"mapframe-coord",
				"coordinates. coord"
			],

ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, they should each be an alias - Evad37 [talk] 14:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey

Hey, so the Community Wishlist Survey is open for votes now! And canvassing is allowed/encouraged, so as much as you can do to spur this proposal would be great! ɱ (talk) 23:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

GeoGroup help

Hi again - I remember you worked on {{GeoGroup}} to add mapframe capability. One of the predominant uses is in NRHP listings, another interest of mine. Yet I don't think the mapframe ability works for these articles... Take a look at this NRHP list (also tested in other lists). Adding "|mapframe=yes|section=Current listings" displays Lua error: No named coordinates found in #Current listings., even though {{NRHP row}} I believe adds names to the coord templates created... Any ideas on how to fix this? ɱ (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

This would be a great feature to fix, adding NRHP site maps to the articles, similar to the one I have at Columbus Register of Historic Properties. ɱ (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

So, I added a coord template to one of the entries, and now the map works. So clearly GeoGroup doesn't recognize the hidden coord templates that "NRHP row" creates. Is there a way to edit "NRHP row" to allow this to work? I suppose as a workaround I could always add coord templates throughout the list, but that's less than ideal... ɱ (talk) 17:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Alternatively, it would be great to edit "NRHP row" to allow a Wikidata link for each entry, and then could use {{wikidatacoord}} to make the {{GeoGroup}} map work (though wikidatacoord won't work for this yet apparently either). ɱ (talk) 18:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, at the moment that feature works by looking at the wikitext of the page for {{Coord|....}} templates. I can probably get it to also look for the nrhp row and wikidata coord templates - Evad37 [talk] 23:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! ɱ (talk) 03:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Evidently some of the code is already baked in, because the template grabs from NRHP row already for its links, just not for the mapframe map. ɱ (talk) 03:08, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Implemented in {{GeoGroup/sandbox}}, can you please test a few articles to check it works? - Evad37 [talk] 09:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Tested:
  • Here is too zoomed-out, not sure why. The preview mode doesn't do this, nor when you load full-screen. On another note, it will be a nice replacement to the less-professional existing map.
  • Here we have the same zoom-out problem.
  • Here it displays properly, but I think the option for smaller markers, and other marker colors, like seen here would make it display even better.
  • Also, none of these preserve the article links, is there a way to do that? NRHP row even has parameters for the article name and display name.
  • Could there be the possibility of adding in coordinates/map data? I don't have any historic district data to potentially add to this, but I assume many NRHP listings will in the future, to show boundaries over just a center point. ɱ (talk) 15:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
No worries if that last idea is too complex, doesn't need to happen now or anything. ɱ (talk) 15:54, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Fixed the zoomed-out problem - coords were only specific to like .1 or .15, but adding more precise coords fixed it. Not sure if you want an automatic fix though for future uses? ɱ (talk) 16:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
@Ɱ: The zoomed-out behaviour: That's probably the wanted behaviour when the coord is for a large area like a whole city, state, or country - so should be fixed in individual articles when its a problem;
Article links and display names are now used when specified;
And its now in the live templates/modules.
Individualising marker styles and additional map data is more tricky... - Evad37 [talk] 00:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Agreed that the autozoom is usually a feature, not a bug. Perhaps the GeoGroup documentation should mention that if a user's map is too zoomed out, to add coord specificity in. Thanks for the changes. If it's any easier, you could set small markers as the default, which I think most multi-marker maps like this would benefit from. ɱ (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Another complex idea may be for nested maps - GeoGroup would be one of the clearest benefits of this that I can think of. You can see how the Columbus and Franklin County NRHP articles show a static map of the location within the state? I would be very happy to remove those relics and replace them with a map of Columbus or the county within Ohio/the Midwest, set within the GeoGroup mapframe map. ɱ (talk) 00:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Offshoot

One thing this really highlights is how terrible NRHP-supplied coordinates are - I fixed a number of them that have been made apparent in the Columbus map, but now looking at the NHL mapframe map for Ohio, it's awful. Sometime we should allow NRHP row to take Wikidata IDs for automatic coordinates, which are hardly ever problematic, especially to the degree these NRHP/NHL ones are. ɱ (talk) 05:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

If you are able to add a wikidata id/wikidata coord option to the NRHP row parameter, it would be greatly appreciated. I just ran into a problem with unspecific coords given in the NRHP, and want to update all of the mapped-out coords, though it would be way better to add in Wikidata IDs (which have all been fixed already) to all items rather than randomly finding off points and readjusting them! ɱ (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello Evad37,

A chart of the 2020 New Page Patrol Queue

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 DannyS712 bot III (talk) 67,552 Patrol Page Curation
2 Rosguill (talk) 63,821 Patrol Page Curation
3 John B123 (talk) 21,697 Patrol Page Curation
4 Onel5969 (talk) 19,879 Patrol Page Curation
5 JTtheOG (talk) 12,901 Patrol Page Curation
6 Mcampany (talk) 9,103 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 6,401 Patrol Page Curation
8 Mccapra (talk) 4,918 Patrol Page Curation
9 Hughesdarren (talk) 4,520 Patrol Page Curation
10 Utopes (talk) 3,958 Patrol Page Curation
Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 2262 Low – 2232 High – 10271

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18:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

User:Evad37/Sandbox 9 moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, User:Evad37/Sandbox 9, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Extra info goes here. Evad37 [talk] 06:43, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 19

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (December 2020).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 19th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Open tasks

Pending requests Pending requests

Miscellaneous

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy holidays! --DannyS712 (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

where did they come from ?

that's a huge amount of drafts... JarrahTree 10:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Mostly, it's because new users either get directed to WP:AFC, and create drafts instead of articles, or else articles they do create are sent into draftspace if WP:NPPers don't think they are good enough to survive AFD - Evad37 [talk] 13:54, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation - it all makes sense now - I do think quite a few are afd JarrahTree 00:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Meetup talk pages, this afternoon or sometime soon - will be adding talk pages to meetup items (pages), rather than one redirect for them all... sigh... All in the name of Stop_Making_Sense - an obscure and complex pun comes with that JarrahTree 06:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
@JarrahTree: Why? The point of the redirects is so that discussions on meetups, particularly if there's rearranging or other changes, are all in one place, instead of sometimes being at the numbered subpages, other times being at the main Meetup/Perth, and sometimes being at both at the same time. - Evad37 [talk] 06:32, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
it might be fine for centralising discussion - but then as of in the last year or so with lots of them cancelled - and some poor archiving and things (almost all totally on my part) has left a complicated trail - each talk page will have a specific message that it is not a discussion page and have a link to the central item - it is more for a point of context for the full set of meetups having ways of keeping a track of cancelled events and other issues in context. I know it might not make sense to you or others, but there is also the linkage with the wmau web site -https://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Perth_meetup_68_(Fremantle_Passenger_Terminal) - and also the wiki club west record - which was (when it existed) tied in with other systems as well - it is as much for a tidy background, and should be adequately defended by the not a discussion page message as long as I dont get too many misunderstandings... that might try to waylay the idea... I think a stronger system of nowiki messages and bold messages will defend against any misunderstandings. I hope that explains the re-arrangement and the perspective on the issues.JarrahTree 07:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
It looks like the explanation will be needed in other places other than editors talk pages, will try to work on it... sigh JarrahTree 08:07, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
See also: User talk:Mitch Ames § from years of experience Mitch Ames (talk) 23:01, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Mitch loves a bit of fun in the silly season obviously JarrahTree 23:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
He does have a point, however... why does stuff from meetup #65 – 4 to 5 meetups ago – need to go on the main talk page? Or if it does, why not inside a {{Archive top}} or similar template (and with level 2 headings changed to level 3)? -

Evad37 [talk] 23:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

It was my bad mistake, the accidental placement of a totally out of whack item was a complete mistake - this is now conflating two things - (a) accidental editing on my part (b) proposal to have talk pages for the meetup pages and not centralising the pages - I clearly have no interest in continuing the range of messes on meetup pages that should be deleted or cleaned up - quite rightly. But hey, I have a concern to try to have a set of talk pages to be created, and move on from my bad edit. JarrahTree 23:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
followup - thanks evad for the edit - I am unlikely to re-visit the meetup pages and what the issues are for a few days, your edit helps thanks. JarrahTree 07:40, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

assessments

Is there anything about the process that you invoked there - anywhere or is it code that is restricted?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Western_Australia/100_Most_Influential_Western_Australians JarrahTree 07:45, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Its a new module I created Module:Page assessment. It automatically fetches the first |class= rating it finds on the specified article's talk page (or based on the type of page, e.g. redirects, disambigs, templates etc). Can be used pretty much anywhere. - Evad37 [talk] 08:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
wow - well done! it's amazing! JarrahTree 08:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

File:Christmas tree in field.jpg Merry Christmas Evad37

Hi Evad37, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very happy and prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this past year, like this tree, you are a light shining in the darkness.
– SD0001 (talk) 15:02, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2020).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

TimestampDiffs broken

 – Evad37 [talk] 01:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh dear

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2021_January_8#Template:WikiProject_banner_shell Oh dear is the thought, not sure I have any interest in geting involved - but very interested whether it has effect upon rater (or not) JarrahTree 12:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

It's just proposing changing the default value when the collapsed parameter is not specified, so it shouldn't affect Rater. Thanks for the notice JarrahTree - Evad37 [talk] 00:43, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
np JarrahTree 04:23, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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JarrahTree 08:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

SPS

Hi Evad, can you add me as a publisher for the Signpost Publishing Script? Per this diff and off-wiki emails with Smallbones I will be publishing this month's issue. Thanks in advance, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@Eddie891:  Done, thanks for volunteering. Please note that the enwiki mass message will be sent out by the script – don't send from Special:MassMessage or else subscribers will get it twice. For the global mass message to be sent by the script, you will need to request the mass message sender user right on Meta at Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat (the above diff plus a short explanation should be enough, e.g. see Bri's archived request or my archived request). If that doesn't happen in time, let me know and I can send it out manually. Also, you may already know this, but if for some unlikely reason the script fails the manual publication steps are in the collapsed boxes at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Resources#Publication. - Evad37 [talk] 00:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I've applied for the meta right. So if I'm understanding everything right, the script will walk me through the whole publication process— I don't need to take any further steps to deliver on-wiki? It will also send the global message, right? Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 02:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
@Eddie891: Yep, the script will do all the steps required for publication and delivery. The only things its doesn't do is announcing the new issue by emailing the mailing list, posting to social media, and cleaning up the newsroom/talk page (the first two require access to external accounts, I'm not sure who has that nowdays). You can try it out with the "dry run mode": it will simulate the process without making any edits/moves/actions, and then let you preview the main page and the mass message - Evad37 [talk] 02:51, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

XFDcloser 4.0

Hi. Would you mind adding a description of the changes in version 4 at Wikipedia:Scripts++/Next? Also, why have you decided to minify the code that is put onwiki? ResourceLoader already minifies it internally, and it makes it harder to understand changes without consulting the github page. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 12:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@DannyS712:  Done. When I was first working out how to build a script from a repo that could use multiple files and modern javascript, it was in the context of a userscript that would not be minified by ResourceLoader, so I guess it is a bit of holdover that isn't neccesarily required. Why I still do it is that (1) the browserified/babelified code is not really too clear to read anyway (perhaps more so for larger changes than smaller changes), (2) the non-minified version is quite a lot larger, currently 1,839 KB, which is a bit close to the technical limit, and (3) the generated source map doesn't work if the file start & end comments are concatenated onto it. I guess the source map could be excluded for the version published to the gadget, which would probably solve the second and third issues, but you still end up with browserified/babelified code. - Evad37 [talk] 00:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 20th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Open tasks

  • As a reminder, the legacy javascript globals (like accessing wgPageName without first assigning it a value or using mw.config.get('wgPageName') instead) are deprecated. If your user scripts make use of the globals, please update them to use mw.config instead. Some global interface editors or local interface administrators may edit your user script to make these changes if you don't. See phab:T72470 for more.

Miscellaneous

  • For people interested in creating user scripts or gadgets using TypeScript, a types-mediawiki package (GitHub, NPM) is now available that provides type definitions for the MediaWiki JS interface and the API.
  • A GitHub organization has been created for hosting codebases of gadgets. Users who maintain gadgets using GitHub may choose to move their repos to this organization, to ensure continued maintenance by others even if the original maintainer becomes inactive.

Pending requests Pending requests

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, including nominating a featured script, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy new year! --DannyS712 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Teamwork and The Signpost

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thank you for being a part of and spearheading The Signpost in 2020 as Editor emeritus. Volume 16 is informative and a delight to go through! DTM (talk) 16:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Quick note on MediaWiki:Gadget-XFDcloser-core.js

Thanks for your edits to MediaWiki:Gadget-XFDcloser-core.js.

The code looks like an unintelligible mess. Is it possible for you to rebuild it so it is cleaner so other editors (like me) can learn? I have checked the repository and found it too difficult to sift through the code to see what does what. Aasim (talk) 02:10, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

An unminified version of the code probably wouldn't be much easier to read as per § XFDcloser 4.0 above – the process of combining multiple files into a single file, and converting from modern ES6+ javascript to browser-compatible javascript, makes the built code hard to understand. What I could (and probably should) do is add some notes for developers in the repo. - Evad37 [talk] 06:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Code check

I've been working on Module:Infobox road/route. It's intended to replace a good portion of the back end of {{Infobox road}} and use the road data string modules instead. I was hoping you could look it over and maybe copyedit it. I have some test cases at User:Fredddie/sandbox.

The only thing that's giving my trouble now is trying to call shieldmain when it exists instead of shield. The US infoboxes sometimes have a different route marker than {{Jct}} because of visibility at 20px. I can get it to call shieldmain but it kills the dual shield functions, which I want to keep. The shield generating code came from Jct. –Fredddie™ 09:16, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 05:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

rater

did not even open (open but nothing inside) for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mining_towns_in_New_South_Wales - is there a coding issue, or am I missing something? trust you are busy JarrahTree 04:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: the talkpage had a heading above the project tags, which was preventing Rater from seeing them. Removing the unnecessary heading fixed it. And yep, I've been busy as of late. - Evad37 [talk] 10:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
I suspected that - appreciate you taking the time to answer - something to be aware of - thanks! JarrahTree 10:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
ygm... JarrahTree 04:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

added TJMSmith
removed Boing! said Zebedee • Hiberniantears • Lear's Fool • Only • WGFinley

Interface administrator changes

added AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
  • When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
  • There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
Evad37, I love your Thanky gadget, it's very useful. Do you think you could develop a markasread-y gadget that would allow users to mark edits as read in their watchlist ?

Sincerely, Golmore (talk) 11:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

P.-S. please notify me if you answer.

Cleaning up Special:WantedTemplates

Hi, due to quirks in the way that Wikipedia parses javascript pages, curly braces are parsed as templates, unless they are inside of <nowiki>...</nowiki>, <pre>...</pre>, <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight> ... As a result of this, your script page, User:Evad37/XFDcloser/sandbox/core.js, is generating links in Special:WantedTemplates (in particular links to Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:"_+_name_+_"). Recently, an interface editor attempted to fix this by adding <nowiki> at the top and </nowiki> at the bottom of your script page. This didn't work because you already have <nowiki>...</nowiki> on that page. It would be great if you could add <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight> tags (you don't have these) at the top and bottom of your page like this which will prevent your page from generating links in Special:WantedTemplates. Thanks for your help! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

@Plastikspork: It was an old script I didn't really need, so I fixed the issue by just blanking it. - Evad37 [talk] 22:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you whitelist ...

User:DannyS712 to use the publishing script for The Signpost? We publish this Sunday as usual. Thanks. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:49, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Smallbones:  Done. @DannyS712: Just reminding you that the script will do all the steps required for publication and delivery, including sending the mass messages. (The only things its doesn't do is announcing the new issue by emailing the mailing list, posting to social media, and cleaning up the newsroom/talk page – the first two require access to external accounts, I'm not sure who has that nowdays). You can try it out with the "dry run mode": it will simulate the process without making any edits/moves/actions, and then let you preview the main page and the mass message - Evad37 [talk] 23:34, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Smallbones(smalltalk) 01:00, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@Evad37 thanks for the reminders DannyS712 (talk) 01:59, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Rater and Vital Articles

Hi Evad37! Have been making good use of Rater recently, as I've seen a lot of people have, and I had a functionality idea. Currently, it doesn't recognise {{Vital article}}, which is placed on Vital articles (unsurprisingly), and has a class parameter which should be updated inline with other class WikiProject banner changes. I suppose it's, by definition, only useful for editing 50,000 talk pages at most, but I think keeping the VA icons up-to-date would be of reasonably big importance to that project, so I was wondering if adding the functionality to adjust the template within Rater (but not group it in {{WPBS}}) would be a simple change to the tool. (Watching this page, so no need for talkback templates.) — Bilorv (talk) 00:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

removed Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
  • Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Mass messaging

Just wondering why you sent a message identical to the other one sent today? Firestar464 (talk) 04:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: It was a mistake, sorry about that. I was pinged in Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom#MassMessage failure, and was trying to fix the apparent failure reported there. I looked at the mass message log and saw a failure message, but I guess I didn't check carefully enough because it was for a different mass messgae that failed. Unfortunately I didn't realise this till after I had already sent out the new mass message. - Evad37 [talk] 04:43, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


Smash!

You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.

Oh, well. --Firestar464 (talk) 04:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Signpost MMS

Ummm, not sure what you and @DannyS712: are up to, but I've not got 3 copies of the recent signpost on my talk page... — xaosflux Talk 11:03, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Danny sent one and I sent one, per the above. I don't how you got a third message, since the log doesn't record any other Signpost messages being sent. It may be a bug in the mass message delivery system. - Evad37 [talk] 12:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
phab:T270873 indicates this problem has happened before, and it seems you were just unlucky to get duplicates from both human error and software errors. - Evad37 [talk] 12:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Ah ok, thanks. — xaosflux Talk 13:00, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Random slideshow

{{Random slideshow}} is great! Thanks for working on it. Could you copy it (and the module) over to Commons? I think it would get a lot of use there. I'd do it, but I don't feel confident that I wouldn't break anything. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:49, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

It's not so great on mobile... maybe I can improve that aspect somewhat before trying to move the whole thing, including various modules it depends on, over to Commons. - Evad37 [talk] 06:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Great! If you remember, ping me when it's there? I can spread the word to some people who would probably use it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
@Rhododendrites: Will do. In the meantime, I've found a way to improve the mobile view of the enwiki version: Module_talk:Random_slideshow#Mobile_view_improvement. - Evad37 [talk] 04:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Nice. I don't think I'd ever actually looked at it with mobile view (avoided at all costs, typically), but yeah it's basically 4 of the images stacked in a single box. The demo works well, though. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

removed Enchanter • Carlossuarez46

Interface administrator changes

removed Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Problem with Template:Maplink

Hi Evad37, I am having a problem with a Template:Maplink. Could you see Module talk:Mapframe#Features are not shown in a maplink frame? Thanks.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 02:13, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Question about the oneclick archiver

I've noticed that whenever I want to archive something on my talk page with your oneclickarchiver, it always sends it to archive 1. How do I change the settings so that it sends newer sections to archive 2? Thank you for your time. Scorpions13256 (talk) 18:43, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@Scorpions13256: You need to have {{Archive basics}} (with appropriate parameters) in the top section of your talk page - Evad37 [talk] 23:07, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Done, and thanks. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:56, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past four months (February through May 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 21st issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

My apologies for this long-overdue issue, and if I missed any scripts.
Hopefully going forward we can go back to monthly releases - any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

added Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless
removed Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

curious

I thought you might have an idea on - Everytime you send me an email, I get an alert on wikipedia, but I don't receive an email in my inbox. Don't know why, I have checked preferences and I don't see anything wrong. I have checked my spam inbox. Don't know what it could be.

User Steelkamp and GDerrin have reported this to me - is it me, my browser, or is it something I dont understand that I need to fix somehow... JarrahTree 08:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: I'm not sure exactly, but I don't think the problem is on your end. From what I understand, it is Wikipedia sending messages on your behalf, so the problem is either with the Send Email function itself, or with the recipient's email accounts/providers. If you ask at WP: VPT you might get a more informative answer - Evad37 [talk] 10:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your info and response. JarrahTree 10:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

I can't believe this is necessary...

I can't believe this is necessary, but I've received enough pushback in implementing mapframe maps, and don't love having to restate the same arguments 100 times. I think this will help. Can you add to this? - Wikipedia:Why mapframe maps?. Best, ɱ (talk) 15:40, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Incompatibility between TimestampDiffs and CommentsInLocalTime

Hi, I've requested a minor update to your TimestampDiffs user script. Please have a look and let me know if there's anything else I should adjust to ensure a good user experience when the two scripts are enabled simultaneously. Thanks! Minh Nguyễn 💬 19:27, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I'll take a look now. Sorry about the delay in responding, I've been very busy IRL - Evad37 [talk] 11:38, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 Done - Evad37 [talk] 11:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Bug fixing

Hi, hope you are doing well! I have a bug to report on the overlay functionality you developed for mapframe. As seen here, the overlay border doesn't quite match up with the map border. I'm not sure why. My only other test of overlay, here, seemed to be fine. Also, do you want me to ever reach out on another forum, like skype or discord? It may make communicating and solving problems a little easier. ɱ (talk) 16:18, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ɱ: Hmmm... adding |frame-align=center fixed it [14]. Obviously that's not all intuitive... - Evad37 [talk] 08:03, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, that worked. I was also glad to see some ability to change color and width of the overlay borders - that still needs to be added into the documentation however. What color options are possible? I tried shades, would hex codes work, or just simple 'black', 'gray', 'green', etc.? ɱ (talk) 19:02, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
@Ɱ: Any web color name or hex code should work - Evad37 [talk] 07:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

The Wa/Perth project

There should be almost another 8 or more recent editors that it would be good to reach out to... will check out a possible list of others who have either been asked before, or maybe not asked. JarrahTree 11:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to say but I think that shoe bar is closed down - probably better somewhere away from Yagan square - also YGM JarrahTree 08:19, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Really...? It's only been a few weeks since I was last down that way... will have to think of something else... - Evad37 [talk] 08:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
will check in real life in the next few days and get back to you about it - I might have gone past at the time (a month or so ago) when there was doom and gloom about everything in the Yagan Square area - and there might have been changed opening hours. JarrahTree 08:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
@JarrahTree: I was thinking somewhere central around Perth/Northbridge would be good. If the Shoe is a no-go, how do you feel about Picabar? Or do you have other suggestions? - Evad37 [talk] 08:32, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
good suggestion - the acoustics inside are atrocious, but depending on the weather, it might be fine. As there is an element of the 20th birthday of wikipedia lingering in the air, there might be an effort to find a slightly different venue, but considering the turn around time for anything - it is the luck of the draw... As I have said, I will be in town checking things out in the next day or so - as some businesses in the perth metro area are shutting up shop with no notice and very sudden (example a coffee haunt in leederville literally gone in the last week or so) - will keep you and the others posted. JarrahTree 08:37, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

hidden info in Natuna Regency

Good evening! I had seen your edits in Template:Infobox settlement, so, in this message, I ask you for problems I encountered in that template.

During my edits in the mentioned article, I gave some information together with various sources I add with <ref>{{cite web}}</ref> citation that I mentioned in this section. However, instead of showing the info, I found that the info weren't showing after I hit publish changes. So, my question, will you keen to find out what kind of mistakes I committed in the article?

Azmi1995 (talk) 12:04, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Azmi1995, I had a quick look and I'm not really sure what you mean – can you be more specific? (a diff link might help.) But anyway, I'm not actually that familiar with Infobox settlement specifically – you might get a better response posting to the infobox talk page, where your query will be seen by editors who regularly use and maintain that infobox. Cheers, Evad37 [talk] 07:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

The trouble I mentioned above was solved by myself. But, as part of evaluation, I, hereby, give you the link that you asked Azmi1995 (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Rather large WP Banner effort

Hey, I am wondering if this is a job that I could do with "Rater". I need to find all instances (ideally, within the Category:Idaho); where the talk page is marked with the US Banner...BUT also with (ID=Yes|Idaho=yes), and ADD the new WP:Idaho banner. General concept is we are splitting off from the Parent US Project, back into our State-based Idaho project. For now, we are NOT pulling the ID parameters.
Part Deux: Copy current CLASS=* to the ID banner class={}
Part C: IF there is "ID-importance=x", then great! Pull x and put into the new banner importance. if no "id-imp*" (OR if value is blank); then try to pull "importance=y"
What do you think? Mjquinn_id (talk) 18:38, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

@Mjquinn id: With such a precise mapping, where there aren't going to be exceptions needing human review, you would be better off with a with a bot run (ask at WP:BOTREQ) rather than tools like Rater that require human effort on each page - Evad37 [talk] 23:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Australian road shields

Hullo, me again, after another long break: I've been updating and cleaning up other Australian road articles and would to request some more old road shields if you wouldn't mind?

Alternative National Route 20, National Route 25, National Route 47, National Route 64, and National Route 87. Thanks! Lordstorm (talk) 06:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

readded Jake Wartenberg
removed Emperor • Viridian Bovary
renamed Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello Evad37,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

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Precious anniversary

Precious
Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
  • Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
  • The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

  • Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
  • The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:03, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Can you re-rate Jalal al-Din Mangburni, please?

I do not understand your rater, can you help me rate Jalal al-Din Mangburni and re-state it class on the talk page? --81.213.215.83 (talk) 05:38, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Integrating archiving script with section subscriptions

Hi Evad37! One thing you may wish to keep an eye on is the upcoming deployment of WP:Discussion Tools, which includes a feature for subscribing to sections. It appears in the same place as the OneClickArchiver button, which causes some funky formatting. It'd be neat to see it integrated visually, and you might even want to see if the team wants to build it into the software for everyone. I love using this script; thanks for your work maintaining it! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 21:52, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

November 2021 backlog drive

New Page Patrol | November 2021 Backlog Drive
  • On November 1, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin.
  • Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled.
  • Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive.
  • Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive.
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(t · c) buidhe 01:58, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Your IAdmin flag

Hello Evad37, as you have been inactive in interface administrator areas, your IAdmin flag has been removed according to the policy. This has no impact on your base administrator access. Should you require this access again in the future, you may request it at WP:BN. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 00:20, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:43, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:No KML

Template:No KML has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

If mobile

Hi Evad37, I am trying to implement the Template:If mobile functionality in Greek Wikipedia and it does not seem to work. Is there something more than Template:If mobile and Template:If mobile/styles.css pages needed? Regards,   ManosHacker talk 11:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Eventually it works, nested tagging was one issue and subst of the welcome message the second. Be well!   ManosHacker talk 12:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Uses TemplateStyles/example.css

Template:Uses TemplateStyles/example.css has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:37, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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column-one

mediawiki:Manual:Gallery of user styles & mediawiki:Category:Stable skins & workingwithmediawiki chapter13 & Special:Gadgets & Help:User style:

ScreenRealEstate: Is it possible to add column-one links to the more tab, at top of page, and make column-one "disappear"? .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 03:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).

Administrator changes

removed A Train • Berean Hunter • Epbr123 • GermanJoe • Sanchom • Mysid

Technical news

  • Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
  • The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)

Arbitration


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled

A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

KMLtoJson script not working

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but the KML-to-Json script doesn't appear to be showing up in my options as intended regardless of what browser I try. ToThAc (talk) 16:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@ToThAc: Seems to work for me. Which Template:Attached KML subpage were you on? What skin are you using? - Evad37 [talk] 00:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

~~~ Merry Christmas! ~~~
Joyeux Noël! ~ Buon Natale! ~ Vrolijk Kerstfeest! ~ Frohe Weihnachten!
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Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством!
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Весела Коледа!

Hello, Evad37! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 01:19, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove and leave other users this message by adding {{subst:Multi-language Season's Greetings}}
Thanks CAPTAIN RAJU. Hope you had a good Christmas, and best wishes for the new year - Evad37 [talk] 00:17, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 22

Hello everyone, and welcome to the 22nd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter. This issue will be covering new and updated user scripts from the past seven months (June through December 2021).

Scripts Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!

New scripts New scripts

  • Ahecht:
  • Awesome Aasim:
    • Infiniscroll adds infinite scrolling to user contributions, page histories, and log pages.
    • Quick create allows for the fast creation of red-linked pages with two clicks.
  • Caburum:
    • UTCclock adds a clock displaying the current UTC time.
  • Chlod:
  • DaxServer:
    • BooksToSfn adds a portlet link in Visual Editor's source mode editing, in main namespace articles or in the user's Sandbox. When clicked, it converts one {{cite book}} inside a <ref>...</ref> tag block into an {{Sfn}}.
  • FlightTime:
  • Jon Harald Søby:
    • diffedit enables editing directly from viewing a diff "when, for instance, you notice a tiny mistake deep into an article, and don't want to edit the entire article and re-find that one line to fix that tiny mistake".
    • warnOnLargeFile warns you if you're about to open a very large file (width/height >10,000px or file size >100 MB) from a file page.
  • JPxG:
    • PressPass adds a collection of tools for Newspapers.com including configurable automatic citation generation in five different formats.
    • CurrentSwitcher gives you links on the contribs page to hide duplicate entries, current revisions, rollbacks, huggles, twinkles, and redwarns.
    • TrackSum lets you automatically sum the lengths of tracks in templates like {{track listing}} and get total runtimes.
  • Nardog:
    • CopySectLink adds a button to copy the unencoded page title or section path next to each heading.
    • IPAInput allows you to type in IPA symbols by directly looking at an IPA key like Help:IPA/English and clicking on the symbols.
    • TemplatePreviewGuard warns when you try to use "Preview page with this template" with a page that doesn't transclude the template.
  • NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh:
    • ContribsTabVector adds "Contributions" and "Statistics" tabs to user and user talk pages on the Vector skin.
    • CopyvioChecker adds a "CopyvioCheck" tab to all pages, except Special (Vector skin only).
    • LiveDiffLink is a version of Equazcion's LiveDiffLink which shows a wikilink instead of a URL.
    • QuickDiff (by OneTwoThreeFall at Fandom) lets you quickly view any diff link on a wiki, whether on Recent Changes, contribs pages, history pages, the diff view itself, or elsewhere. For more information, view its page on Fandom.
  • Novem Linguae:
    • DetectSNG scans a list of 1,600 SNG keywords and displays them at the top of the article.
    • NotSoFast highlights recently created articles in the new pages feed, to discourage patrolling them too quickly.
    • UserRightsDiff concisely displays what perm was added or removed when viewing Special:UserRights.
    • VoteCounter displays a rough count of keeps and deletes at XFDs, RFCs, etc.
    • WatchlistAFD automatically watchlists the AFDs of any pages you AFC accept or NPP patrol, to help you calibrate your reviewing.
  • P.T.Đ:
  • Qwerfjkl:
    • editRedirect adds a → link after redirects to edit them.
    • RegExTypoFix, a script for fixing typos, is a wrapper for User:Joeytje50/RETF.js.
    • talkback creates links after user talk page links like this: |C|TB (with the first linking to the user's contributions, and the latter giving the option of sending a {{talkback}} notice). It also adds a [copy] link next to section headers.
  • Rublov:
    • diff-link shows "copy" links on history and contributions pages that copy an internal link to the diff (e.g., Special:Diff/1026402230) to your clipboard when clicked.
  • Rummskartoffel:
    • auto-watchlist-expiry automatically watchlists every page you edit for a user-definable duration (you can still pick a different time using the dropdown, though).
    • generate pings generates the wikitext needed to ping all members of a category, up to 50 editors (the limit defined by MediaWiki).
    • share ExpandTemplates url allows for easy sharing of your inputs to Special:ExpandTemplates. It adds a button that, when clicked, copies a shareable URL to your exact invocation of the page, like this. Other editors do not need to have this script installed in order to access the URL generated.
    • show tag names shows the real names of tags next to their display names in places such as page revision histories or the watchlist.
  • Tol:
  • Venkat TL:
    • ColourContrib color-codes the user contributions page so that pages you've edited last are sharply distinguished from pages where another editor was the last to edit the page.
  • Vukky:

All in all, some very neat scripts were written in these last few months. Hoping to see many more in the next issue -- drop us a line on the talk page if you've been writing (or seeing) anything cool and good. Filling in for DannyS712, this has been jp×g. Take care, and merry Christmas! jp×g 07:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

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