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Please stop removing my edits. Which have been sourced and are accurate.

As above. Please stop removing my edits. Which have been sourced and are accurate.

Unless you have any particular reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcroberts91 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Because you're adding random facts to put across a pro-Blackburn and anti-Burnley agenda. It's plain for all to see. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:13, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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Is that your attempt at issuing me with a Uw-tempabuse1 warning? That's cute! :) Mattythewhite (talk) 19:28, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Steve Bull

Stop changing Steve Bull's Wikipedia Page. I'm a Wolverhampton Wanderers fan and I KNOW that he scored 306 goals in 561 appearances for Wolves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WolvesBoy29 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

It has been explained to you twice already that the infobox accounts for league statistics only. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Raphaël Guerreiro

Please drop your opinion here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SLBedit#Peseiro) as soon as possible! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:09, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Also, per what I have seen in Nolito, we remove the international goals chart, we don't remove, we remove again... Which is it, please? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:43, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

The talk page you've linked to has been blanked.
I'd say present tense is more appropriate in this instance.
The latest consensus I'm aware of is in favour of including international goals. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
The consensus I read was to remove international goals per WP:NOTSTATS, and if international goals are notable, then an article is created for them. SLBedit (talk) 22:37, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Please refer to User talk:Mattythewhite/Archive 31#List of International goals for a précis of the situation. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

About Mr. Guerreiro's personal life section (new version was added with the summary "per source"). Since the source is almost TWO YEARS OLD, would past tense not be applicable here? Would very much like to know, if possible --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:03, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

The source states that he is a supporter of Benfica, and a fan of Cristiano Ronaldo. That's not WP:RECENTISM. SLBedit (talk) 22:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
I think present tense is fine here, but I don't think his career "dreams" and favourite player are notable. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Ray Kennedy

I noted your RV at Kennedy. I think the IP concerned needs eyes on. Edits are a mixture of sound ones and unconstructive/vandalism. See also Frank McLintock and Frank O'Farrell. Eagleash (talk) 21:48, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for the McLintock error. Twas not vandalism. If you look the previous editor had called him McLinctock in refs so I did a complete find/change forgetting it would take in the first (correct) mention as well. Sorry.--95.146.155.175 (talk) 23:39, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Shwan jalal

Hi , why you remove picture for Iraq player Shwan jalal . I took this picture , my own work

I wait your answer

Thank you

Kurdistantolive (talk) 21:54, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

I reverted to the previous version, as that image shows a clearer view of the subject. Also, the image you've uploaded needs to be cropped, and needs the datestamp removing. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 22:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
I understand you but i took this picture yesterday, this is a new picture . I think if we put this picture in the article Shwan jalal

I hope you help me

Kurdistantolive (talk) 04:03, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Barnsley FC

Apologies for the error when editing the Barnsley FC Page, I accidentally deleted the key info at the top without knowing it! Thanks for letting me know so quickly. Will299 (talk) 13:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Request for advice

Hi, I asked a fellow editor about a revert he made and now he's deleted my question on his talk page (1). Please advise how to deal with this situation. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 17:25, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Vicarage Road

Please give me time to add the references. I am adding as we speak!Racingmanager (talk) 15:18, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

references duly added Racingmanager (talk) 15:25, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Roy Hodgson

Matty, could you look at the number of edits on Roy Hodgson? I suspect a lot are fellow Leicester supporters! Regards JRPG (talk) 20:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Gylfi Sigurdsson

Um, what I put actually happened. Please refrain from discrediting things you don't know about. Thegreatfrank (talk) 15:27, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Please refer to WP:V. It doesn't matter if it actually happened. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for undoing a change!

Hi! I'm brand-new to Wikipedia, and this is my first time on a talk page, so I'm sorry if I do it wrong! Thanks for undoing the edit on the Kolo Touré page – my suspicion is, since I don't remember editing that page ever, nor did I know who Kolo Touré was until I saw your message, that my younger brother (who's obsessed with football/football players) probably was on Wikipedia when I let him use my computer yesterday (clearly a mistake!) and made some kind of edit to the Kolo Touré page under my account/IP. Thanks for undoing it!

Chronoception (talk) 22:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Warning

Thanks Matty. However, your warning is likely to go unnoticed. This IP can potentially be picked up by over 50,000 people. Warnings on IP pages have limited, if any, use. They can also be confusing and worrying to genuine users. And BTW, it wasn't me who made that stupid edit [1]. Incidentally, editing Wikipedia is not a privilege. I've been editing under my user name for over 10 years and I can assure you, it's Wikipedia that is privileged to have people like me, and you, selflessly donating our time to improve the project - just a thought. 141.6.11.25 (talk) 08:18, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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Naming conventions.

Hi, you seem like you would know what the naming conventions are for football related pages (if there are any). Are players listed as playing for (nation) club (team), or (league) club (team)? For example, Thierry Henry is stated as signing "for Premier League club Arsenal" and is a featured article and James Milner, Alberto Moreno, Christian Benteke are "Premier League club Liverpool" too yet many other Liverpool players are "English club Liverpool" or just "Liverpool". It seems strange that there is no uniformity on this and wanted to know if you know what these articles should be listed as. Zaostao (talk) 12:39, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't believe there is decisive consensus of toward any option, although I favour including the division. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. Do you know if there is somewhere to bring this up that would create an across-the-board rule or is it better to just let it pass? Zaostao (talk) 19:15, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Ousmane N'Doye

Troublesome/apparently mute user again at it, is there any valid reason for this many "contributions" (discrepance in display of infobox fields, and I actually tried to reach a compromise with them in other box areas)? I ask you because we (I for one) are getting close to breaking 3RR.

If I am wrong in my approach, I'll stop of course, but would like to hear from you as to the "why". Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 00:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

I really don't think it's worth getting in an edit war over infobox coding. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:19, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

OK, i'll leave article as it is, in the meantime maybe they'll write a summary. Not trying to be a wiseass with that second part, I just can't stand the lack of interaction some users display. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 00:39, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

  • How about in Cadú (footballer)?! FORADEJOGO clearly says his total in the Primeira Liga is 121 games/7 goals, they go and changed it to 148/13, even the Romanian external link says the former figure (sure, he scored six in 27 last season, but in the Segunda Liga!). Last but not least, visited the club's website now, nothing OFFICIAL yet. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:26, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Person has been blocked, then resorted to vile personal attacks towards GS, just thought I'd let you know. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 04:23, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Danish IP

Sorry to bother again, but this "user" is again at it (no PC updates, B-clubs summarily removed from box, as seen in Kelvin Mateus de Oliveira https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kelvin_Mateus_de_Oliveira&diff=723314268&oldid=723314176). --Be Quiet AL (talk) 04:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Warned for unexplained removal of content. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:12, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Sandro Ramirez

BUT IT SAYS ON THE 2016-17 SEASON FOR FC BARCELONA THAT SANDRO RAMIREZ HAS OFFICIALY RETIRED FROM BARCELONA, YOU STOP CHANGING ON WHAT I EDIT — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuisSuazo300 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Kim Tyrone Grant

Please i have been making necessary and correct info for Kim Tyrone Grant (footballer) and these changes are fact and correct name of the person, these changes are directly from Kim Grant himself and all changes are fact and correct, please if there is any issues am more than happy to give you direct contact or view website pages www.kg-ifa.com or send me your direct email to get in touch. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nestadead (talk • contribs) 15:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Antoine Griezmann

Is it time to protect Antoine Griezmann? JMHamo (talk) 20:47, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Antoine Griezmann goals

Matty,

I am currently watching the match. Griezmann scored a goal on a penalty against Germany at the 47th minute. Here is the ESPN link to it: http://www.espnfc.com/european-championship/74/blog/post/2909084/euro-2016-semifinals-germany-vs-france-live-commentary

If I am, in fact, making an error, please let me know what it is.

Are you going to go ahead and undo the edits that were made this time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapd82 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Éder (Portuguese footballer)

Hello Matty, could you please keep an eye on Éder (Portuguese footballer) and protect if required. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 21:28, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Could you please protect Mark Clattenburg too Matty, getting hit by vandals as well. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 21:57, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Nationality of the catalans (article:Carles Puyol)

Hello, I'm Mattythewhite. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Carles Puyol, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:18, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Mattythewhite,

Yes, I have provided a reliable source, you can see in the "Talk" section. I copy what I have written here:

The nationality of Puyol is spanish and catalan, not only spanish because Catalonia by law as a nationality. Catalonia Statute of autonomy, Preamble: "... In reflection of the feelings and the wishes of the citizens of Catalonia, the Parliament of Catalonia has defined Catalonia as a nation by an ample majority. The Spanish Constitution, in its second Article, recognises the national reality of Catalonia as a nationality..."

http://web.gencat.cat/en/generalitat/estatut/estatut2006/preambul/

The link directs to the official webpage of the government of Catalonia

Here you have also the Spanish Constitution:

Article 2 The Constitution is based on the indissoluble unity of the Spanish nation, the common and indivisible country of all Spaniards; it recognises and guarantees the right to autonomy of the nationalities and regions of which it is composed, and the solidarity amongst them all.

http://www.congreso.es/constitucion/ficheros/c78/cons_ingl.pdf

The link directs to the official webpage of Congress of Deputies of Spain

Catalonia is a nationality not a region, this is recognized in the statute of autonomy of Catalonia and is recognized in the Spanish Constitution. The Catalans we are nationally Catalans because we belong to a nationality officially recognized (Catalonia) and we are Spanish because we belong to a state (Spain).

I do not say that the Catalans are not Spanish, for the moment we are officially Spanish (except the Catalans in France, which are French). I say that our nationality is Catalan (Besides being Spanish) because that recognize the laws, Catalunya by law is a nationality.

Gretings!


ADDENDA In the article dedicated to Antoni Gaudí is fulfilled what the law prescribes and his nationality is Spanish Catalan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Gaud%C3%AD

All articles corresponding to Catalans should be so, not for being a whim but why Catalonia is officially a nationality recognized by its statute of autonomy and the Spanish constitution and, therefore, the nationality of the Catalans is Spanish and Catalan, not only Spanish.

Further the Declaration on the Rights of Persons Belonging to National or Ethnic, Religious and Linguistic Minorities Adopted by the United Nation General Assembly (resolution 47/135 of 18 December 1992), says:

Article 1 1. States shall protect the existence and the national or ethnic, cultural, religious and linguistic identity of minorities within their respective territories and shall encourage conditions for the promotion of that identity.

The Catalans have all the right to be recognized as such, besides this universal right recognized by the United Nations the Catalans we are part of nationality legally recognized in our statute of autonomy and in the Spanish Constitution. Therefore we have absolutely all the right to be recognized as such and that our identity and nationality not remains hidden behind the only name of "Spanish" (remember that not all Catalans are Spanish, in France there is also Catalans)

For all these reasons well documented and justified I proceed to revert the edition

ADDENDA 2

You follow reversing without regard to reasons and without answering anything here

You say: This is against consensus and simple facts (eg Catalonia is not a nation state)

Ok, because you do not read the arguments???

Against consensus? see you the article about Antoni Gaudi... What consensus? there Gaudi appears as Spanish Catalan.

Against simple facts (eg Catalonia is not a nation state)? Neither it is Scotland but the Scots appear as Scots in articles dedicated to Scottish people. Furthermore, in the case of Catalonia, Catalonia as I told you is recognized as a nationality by law.

Last reverses are for no reason and without reading the arguments in "Talk" or here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.19.144.48 (talk) 07:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC) 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.120.78.10 (talk) 22:56, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

resignation

Jeremy Heywood becomes the Prime Minister for a brief period after Cameron resigns; before May forms a government. --Kaj Taj Mahal (talk) 15:59, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Doubt

I know the player position wikilink contains an hyphen (i.e. Full-back), but is it incorrect to write a player "...plays as a right back" instead of "right-back"?

Attentively, thanks in advance --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I believe it is correct with the hyphen, so we should write centre-back, right-back etc. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Sandro Ramirez

See, I told you that Sandro Ramirez has officialy retired from FC Barcelona and now that Malaga FC has bought him and you think that I was wrong, the answer was no. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuisSuazo300 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Lol even though he hadn't transferred at that time? Mattythewhite (talk) 22:30, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Dom Solanke

Can you please leave the England U19 section on Dom Solanke's wikipedia page as 8 appearances 2 goals. He played and scored against France U19 in the 2016 U19 European Championships 2 days ago, I wouldn't make it up and I don't post anything false on wikipedia. Rowanrjm (talk) 07:18, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Aston Villa

There badge is different with the image I got just needs a better one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewHagueLang (talk • contribs) 11:55, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Various

What is your intake on this? Has only played in the Portuguese Second Division and Lega Pro thus far, if the latter does not "save his bacon" then he must be deleted, no?

Regarding Carles Puyol, we go at it again? I see this IP user is much more polite and articulate than the User:Lauyulam which was an animal (with apologies to animals), but wrong nonetheless no? If it is I that is in the wrong due to new valid reasons being brought into the "mix", then I apologize and anyone please revert me, if not i'll do it myself.

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:13, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and the crap continues in Julien Fernandes! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:20, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

The Lega Pro is fully professional meaning Pires passes WP:FPL.
Agree re Puyol.
I have Fernandes watchlisted. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:40, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Just saw the same-if-not-worse treatment being inflicted to Jacobo Sanz Ovejero, his brother telling to my "wikiface" in 2012/13 he understood how this worked (in Spanish, I talked to him in Spanish lest there would remain any doubts!) then waiting some years thinking I would forget about article and he could destroy it... Disgusting behaviour! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 01:19, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

  • So, as you agree, you'd be "happy" to know that the disruption in Puyol continues. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 17:00, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Could you please drop a note in the chap (anon) that has been editing in Mr. Puyol's piece? They seem to be using it for quite a while now, so chances are they'll read it. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Serious

Brother of Jacobo Sanz Ovejero is blazing all guns after a couple of years' rest, anon IP starting with 5.225. (seems to be fairly used, worth noting) AND a recently created account again removed all negative (sourced!) aspects of his career. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

  • He reverted me, and threats with legal action in his talkpage! The fact that he adds "go to TRANSFERMARKT.com to find proper sources" shows us how much he "knows". --Be Quiet AL (talk) 21:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Please don't write to him still lest we have an edit conflict, I am in the process of doing so --Be Quiet AL (talk) 21:52, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't legal threats be reported to AN/I? Robby.is.on (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Per WP:NLT, they should be reported to AN/I or directly to an administrator, the latter of which has taken place. Might be worth posting it at AN/I for another perspective, though. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:58, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

If happened (the edit conflict), but no worries, I copy/pasted and inserted my bit afterwards. Essentially, I told him the following: 1 - All players in the world that have negative incidents in their careers should have that info retrieved to their WP articles, if duly sourced of course; 2 - could he provide sources with the "truth" if he is so kind? 3 - I do not know any Greek, so I am not aware what is reported in those sources, but my Spanish is fine thank you very much, and the newspaper Diario de Avisos clearly states he FOUGHT with his teammate during training, if they are lying then it's not WP's fault. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:02, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Can you please step in in Carles Puyol, since you agree with my M.O. (or better said, I agree with yours and WP's!)? Guy reverted me and labelled me a VANDAL, I'm having none of that. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:25, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
If I may comment: I believe the issue is mostly down to the IP editor not understanding that they need to gain consensus. They have listed a bunch of arguments here on the Matty's Talk page which have not be countered (because this is not the right venue, I would assume) and now they seem to think their arguments stand. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 16:33, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I see, but those exact same arguments have been posted rightfully in the article's talkpage. Last time we spoke about this, Matty told me the IP's approach was not correct, that is why I am reverting. I have no respect for separatist agendas (nothing against Catalonia, hopefully the IP understands that), and apparently neither does WP. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:39, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I've started a thread at WT:FOOTY requesting people help monitor the article. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Looking at Eduardo Berizzo's squad templates, methinks that the O'Higgins stuff is overkill. Is it? Last time I checked, the only club templates that are kept are those of the current squads, no? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:57, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Fredy

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Fredy (footballer, born 1990). This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:29, 20 July 2016 (UTC).

  1. There is no unsourced content added. It is announced on the website of SBV Excelsior that he had signed a one-year deal at the club. http://sbvexcelsior.nl/nieuwe-aanwinst-excelsior-rotterdam-fredy-ribeiro/ 15:43, 20 July 2016 (CET). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DWijngaard (talk • contribs)
Did you at that source to the article? No. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, user 2008jordancfc again violated the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule in Iago Aspas' page.--Josepolivares (talk) 24 July 2016 (UTC)

So did you, it would appear? Robby.is.on (talk) 15:45, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Maybe just stop wrongly editing the page then?

André Gomes

Hello, user Phrustration are removing information with source article André Gomes. When trying to politely talk to him, you made rude personal attacks and ignored my requests.

Moreover, he went on to vandalize my personal page. See Josepolivares
Thanks for your help. But the user follows with removing information source in André Gomes without explaining why. And again vandalized my page and made personal attack. --Josepolivares (talk) 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Phrustration needs his talk page access disabled for his block, he keeps making insults and personal attacks. Sro23 (talk) 23:09, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Davide Petrucci

I put an external link to prove his height, his soccerway profile. (Rhinen) —Preceding undated comment added 11:48, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Tim Sherwood

I don't understand why you reversed my edit because of revisionism here.The official statement from Tottenham Hotspur said that he left the club, it did not mention anywhere that he was sacked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.76.42 (talk) 19:35, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Tosin Adarabioyo

As an editor with over 200,000 edits one would hope you would understand how this place works by now. I am quite aware there is a source supporting an incorrect version of the name. I discussed this in some detail on the article talk page. I know you think a single source trumps what is provided by the source, but the next step is to discuss, not simply revert to your own preferred version.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:10, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Heh. You still haven't explained how OR, coming from the subject himself/someone close (potential COI), trumps a RS. Or do you not understand how this place works well enough? Mattythewhite (talk) 00:18, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
There are multiple RS which do not use the incorrect name you prefer. We generally do not accept information from the subject or their legal representatives, but information regarding their own name is a reasonable exception. It is the case that we have one source claiming one thing and another source claiming another, we have the subject telling us his name, dozens of RS supporting that name, and one, mistaken source on the other side.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Getting some proof from the subject would help settle this matter, albeit something like a passport or a birth certificate would be a primary source. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:29, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

82.17.17.220

82.17.17.220 (talk · contribs) continues violating BLPs after being warned (see Talisca). SLBedit (talk) 09:16, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Mario Götze

A user, Dellinspiron1, continues to add an unsourced transfer fee. I am at 3RR and can't revert any longer, although, the editor is past 3RR. Could you please watch, or better yet, source? Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:52, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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Templates

Eduardo Berizzo again (maybe this time an answer will be provided), are his O'Higgins champion templates overlinking or not? Now, I found out this in Nicolae Stanciu (footballer, born 1993)... templates for season top scorer?! Seriously Matty, where's the limit?

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 17:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I'd support the champion templates being deleted and the top scorer navbox being removed. I don't believe there is consensus for either to exist. Mattythewhite (talk) 10:20, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2015–16 York City F.C. season

The article 2015–16 York City F.C. season you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2015–16 York City F.C. season for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 11:01, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Michael Duberry

I added an honours section to reflect the three trophies he has won, this is entirely consistent with many professional footballer's pages. How can it require citation if the information is written above?Statto74 (talk) 17:45, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Because it isn't sourced...? Mattythewhite (talk) 17:53, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Its from his own page:

"He won the League Cup, the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and the European Super Cup with Chelsea, all in 1998" Statto74 (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

But where is the WP:RS? Mattythewhite (talk) 18:06, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Mark warbuton

Mark warbuton done his youth career at Leicester city so get your facts right go and email him and see what he says Jollyboyjohnny (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

I know this is a wild, radical idea: but maybe you could provide a reliable source to verify your additions? Mattythewhite (talk) 22:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

I know this might be the real answer go and check the Rangers page. I know your a Celtic supporter and I'm a Rangers supporter. I would like to ensure you that I'm right Mark warbuton done his youth career at Leicester city — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jollyboyjohnny (talk • contribs) 23:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

MARK WARBURTON was appointed the fifteenth manager of Rangers Football Club on June 15, 2015.

A youth player at Leicester City in the late 1970s, he played under iconic former Ibrox boss Jock Wallace before moving on to play non-league football with Enfield and Boreham Wood.

This was off the Rangers page so get your facts right

That's the first time I've ever been accused of being a Celtic fan, so that's... um... interesting. But I refer to you my above comment, re citing sources. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Oh so now you believe me that he never had his youth career at Celtic and mate im sorry but I thought you were for a minute because why do you think Rangers have the song " Warbuton is Magic he could of said in England be he said no" he has never left England in his playing career until he became manager Rangers Jollyboyjohhny 12:31 6th August — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jollyboyjohnny (talk • contribs) 23:32, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

concerning your message to me.

Hi Matty, I apologise for the editing done on Henrik Larsson's wiki page. We have had two new babies in the family and a friend thought it was funny to play them off against each other. I promise to keep him away from my laptop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.46.78.105 (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Soccerway is a reliable source, but Transfermarkt is not?

What are your standards for a reliable source in soccer stats? I mean I get it if you tell us to only stick to the stats published by an official football club or organization. But I don't get how citing Soccerway is OK, while citing Transfermarkt is not. Bloomberg800 (talk) 18:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Transfermarkt is user-edited, so anyone can sign up and amend their information, which is generally unacceptable per WP:UGC. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

West Bromwich Albion

Hi Matty, The information on WBA was based on an email I received of the company that made the deal from a legal/tax perspective. It is on their site now too. LINK TO INFO KR Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melotte (talk • contribs) 14:08, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

2016–17 York City F.C. season

Hello Matty, do you intend to expand 2016–17 York City F.C. season to pass WP:GNG or should be it sent to PROD/AfD as York City (sadly) are no longer in the Football League? What to do? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, I wasn't intending on working on this season's article out of sheer frustration and disenfranchisement with the club, regardless of the recent spate of deletions of Conference season articles. I wouldn't personally advocate deletion, but neither can I guarantee that I'll work on it... Mattythewhite (talk) 16:26, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Nottingham Forest

Hi, It would have been nicer of you to have told me what the problem was, instead of just putting um no. Try being a bit more helpful instead of coming across as a bit of a know it all. 20:54, 10 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happymanelp (talk • contribs)

Jonathan Calleri

Why do I need a reliable source to prove that Jonathan Calleri now part of West Ham? The rest of the team does not link to reliable sources, including the other 6-7 new players. — Preceding unsigned comment added by P-nor (talk • contribs) 19:44, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Page move...

...if you can assist, I was not able to do it. Article is Álvarinho, and the reasoning to perform the move is the following: his REAL first name carries an accent, indeed, but the short form ("Little Álvaro" in Portuguese) does not; only thing needed is to remove the accent, simple as that :)

Thanks in advance, nice teamwork --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Done! Mattythewhite (talk) 18:22, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
But it's not clear to me that this footballer is so notable as to usurp primary topic status from the variety of white wine grape. wbm1058 (talk) 11:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
The wine has a different name (Alvarinhao), so I'm at a loss as to how my page move has "usurped" it's primary topic status. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Oh come on now.
  • Alvarinho is in boldface in the lead sentence of Albariño, as an alternate spelling (not a misspelling). You had to delete a redirect that had stood since October 2004 to complete the move; that's why it was necessary to ask an admin to move it.
  • Alvarinhao redirects to Caíño blanco.
  • If you check Special:WhatLinksHere/Alvarinho, you'll see links intended for the wine grape that are now going to the footballer.
This needs to be cleaned up somehow. wbm1058 (talk) 12:39, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Move to Alvarinho (footballer)? Mattythewhite (talk) 12:54, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
That's what I was going to boldly do, but I thought I should discuss it with you first. wbm1058 (talk) 13:00, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

James Chester Comment

Hi, I just wondered why you are edit-warring James Chester's move to Aston Villa back to West Brom versions? His move has been confirmed by both clubs at this stage and while some edits are a bit sloppy they are correct. Mountaincirque 13:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Because there haven't been any citations cited. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:39, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Carlos Tevez

Hello, have a look at this, please:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81,_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81#.D0.9A.D0.B0.D1.80.D1.8C.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B0_.D0.B2_.D1.81.D0.B1.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.BD.D0.BE.D0.B9

And also:

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/461272-amistoso-el-sub-20-derroto-a-bolivia-por-3-a-0

The main data come from Tevez's official site which does not exist anymore, unfortunately. However almost all his matches for Argentina U-17, U-20 and U-23 were official (Preolimpico, South America Championship etc.; only two frendlies) and you can find a reliable sources for those, probably. --Eichel-Streiber (talk) 15:10, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Hélder Postiga

Redone it and added sources. Have a good day --Krankl12 (talk) 16:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Carlos Roca edit

I added info from valid websites about Roca's career path and the clubs which he has played for to add more information to the article to provide more information for the public about Roca's career and transfers. The content I added did not vandalise the page nor did it humiliate or offend Roca, neither was it intended to. I do not understand what is wrong with adding more information about a player's club career- which is certainly not incriminating, nor is it vandalism- to a Wikipedia page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolliticallyVeracius (talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Carlos Roca edit II

PS: If I made any mistakes, please inform me. I am willing to contribute and help make Wikipedia's articles better. Kindest Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolliticallyVeracius (talk • contribs) 17:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Adnan Januzaj

Hi Matty, could you please inform me of any mistakes I made with the updating of the article "Adnan Januzaj"? The info all came from Sunderland's official website, so I don't see why it needs to be reverted. Anyway, I'm willing to help and contribute to the site and make the articles better. Kindest Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolliticallyVeracius (talk • contribs) 18:00, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Paddy McNair

Hi Again Matty,

Could you please inform me of the mistake I made when updating the article "Paddy McNair"? The info added was from Sunderland's website, and verified by Sunderland themselves, but I have received a message from Wikipedia saying that I may be blocked or something of the sort. I added Sunderland's Official Statement regarding McNair's signing, and added in his SAFC squad number, all from the Sunderland website. Why is this classed as somewhat invalid? I don't really understand.

Thank you very much for your co- operation, and kindest regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolliticallyVeracius (talk • contribs) 18:04, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Carlos Roca edit

Hi Matty,

I have now cited my sources in article "Carlos Roca (footballer". Thank you for your help, kindest regards.

PS: To see the citation I used, here is a link: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/football/amateur-football/rhyl-fcs-carlos-roca-shows-6739922 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolliticallyVeracius (talk • contribs) 18:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Citation Barnstar
Thank you Matty for consistently providing citations to your edits or created articles, and for making sure to correct when people create or edit pages when they don't include citations. You keep Wikipedia safe and reliable. Thank you yet again. PolliticallyVeracius (talk) 18:20, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for your hard work to Wikipedia, providing citations and help to various users, including myself! You deserve this Barnstar as well as the Citation Barnstar I awarded you earlier. Thank you Matty!

Kindest Regards, PoliticallyVeracius PolliticallyVeracius (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I have now completed the citation of the article, Carlos Roca (footballer). Thanks Matty. Have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolliticallyVeracius (talk • contribs) 18:55, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

In regards to Snodgrass

Hi, I changed the name from a vandals attempt at being funny, thanks for the edit! Skycloud86 (talk) 21:56, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

But where did you come up with the middle name Evans? Mattythewhite (talk) 21:56, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

How is that explaining it? all i did was 1 cap.. and i did the times right.. it makes no sense.

Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Víctor Valdés.

If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards. If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Per #Stats in football players' infoboxes and update of career stats. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:43, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

(You just go around reverting edits.. this one for no reason. you are not fixing it you are being disruptive) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GanjaCaliphate (talk • contribs) 00:16, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Luke simpson

You are giving incorrect information have a look at York City FC link it says Luke Simpson is 6ft 2 not 5ft 10. Please stop damaging Simpsons appearance and stop leaving it blank for the games he played at Nantwich Town and find sufficient evidence of how many games played as again it is damaging for Simpson career. XLManny0 (talk) 08:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

The Nantwich appearances you are adding are unsourced. It is you who needs to "find sufficient evidence of how many games played", as per WP:BURDEN. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Stop wrongly editing Luke Simpson's page, if this does not stop with immediate effect I will take this matter further. Luke Simpson is 6ft 2 as shown on York City's official website, as it was already shown on on his page previously but you keep on insisting on wrongly editing his page to make him smaller then he actually is and this will look bad on Simpson as you know so please stop immediately. XLManny0 (talk) 21:21, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm concerned in dealing with facts that are verified by reliable sources, not in self-interested amelioration. Please cease your disruptive editing, for which you have already been blocked twice. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Marcos Alonso (footballer)

Matty, not trying to tell you how to do your job, but a mistake happens to anyone, so here it goes: are you sure about that move? What about his family? Maybe his grandfather was more known by his nickname (Marquitos), but the father was ALSO Marcos Alonso.

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:12, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

I took the other Marcos Alonsos into consideration, and seeing as Marcos Alonso Peña is most commonly known as Marcos and Marcos Alonso Imaz is most commonly known as Marquitos, I am satisfied Marcos Alonso (footballer) is the most appropriate title. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

As am I now :) --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:26, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Graeme Murty

Matty

I apologise for the edit to Graeme Murty's page w/out a source, but please don't threaten to ban me.

This isn't an attempt at vandalism, it can quite easily be found online at various sources that Murty has been appointed Rangers F.C under 20's Coach.

You do excellent work in patrolling so many various pages, especially ones of strong interest to me in Scottish football. I put a lot of work into editing and attempting to uphold the standards of Wiki pages relating to Scottish Football, including many which do not receive a lot of attention. I would be very disappointed if I were to be banned from participating in Wiki editing due to a mistake I have made.

Thanks for your attention and feel free to talk or make revisions to my work and if you need me to assist in any way please contact me.

Coatbridge Chancellor CoatbridgeChancellor (talk) 12:13, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, but please refer to WP:V and WP:BURDEN. These explain why I reverted your edit. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry I was experimenting on how to use Wikipedia Juanmartinezw77 (talk) 21:25, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

James Milner "citation needed" explosion

Mattythewhite, I had just noticed this evening that a long-outstanding Good Article Reassessment was open on this article, dating back to June 2015. When I took a look at the article to see whether the issues might still apply—they could easily have been fixed in the interim—I was aghast at the sheer number of "citation needed" tags; it seemed impossible that the article could possibly be considered a good article and be so deficient.

Then I took a closer look. Back on April 22 of this year, in a single massive edit, you added dozens upon dozens of "citation needed" templates, so that just about every sentence that did not have an actual citation had a template. The problem: in many cases, citations were not needed.

If three sentences are covered by one source, then the MOS makes clear that having the source citation at the end of the last of these sentences is perfectly fine (exception: if a quote appeared in one of the earlier sentences, or if an especially controversial fact was presented). In fact, it makes the article easier to read if citations don't appear constantly. I've just edited the "Early life" section of this article, updating a couple of URLs that were out of date, deleting five "citation needed" templates, and finding a source for the sixth. (I've also found a source in the next section where a citation was indeed needed.)

I think you ought to go through, check, and remove the remaining unnecessary "citation needed" templates. (I've spent far more time on it than I planned, and can't afford any more at present.) As it stands, I don't see how the article can retain its Good Article listing with so much apparently missing sourcing—what you've done is effectively label the article as badly sourced and unverifiable. It may be that these is serious underciting here, but based on what I found, the odds are it's not as bad as it seems. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of James Milner

James Milner, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Andre Gray

Please could you protect Andre Gray, the article is receiving extensive vandalism as a result of the media reports published this evening. Thank you, LTFC 95 (talk) 17:57, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Vanarama Conferance.. Lincoln City

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/results — Preceding unsigned comment added by GanjaCaliphate (talk • contribs) 22:16, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Crystal Palace F.C

Hi Mattythewhite I didn't know how to provide the information, I'm new to this and was using Wikipedia to update my fifa 16 sqauds and stuff any ideas on how to add a link or anything — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesAFC1903 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Newcastle United F.C.

You have said that I vandalized Newcastle United's Wikipedia page by inputting incorrect information, but I did no such thing, I inputted the information that DeAndre Yedlin has joined Newcastle United F.C. and also provided a source, so please don't accuse me of something I have not done. Here is proof that DeAndre Yedlin has joined Newcastle United: http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/69/transfer-zone/2016/08/24/26799752/source-deandre-yedlin-completes-newcastle-transfer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamestlynch99 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

The source you cited explicitly stated that the move was not yet complete. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

The link I sent in this conversation has a headline saying 'OFFICIAL: DeAndre Yedlin completes $6.6M Newcastle transfer'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamestlynch99 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm referring to the one you cited in the article. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Jordan Rhodes -

Just to say I never edited anything about Jordan Rhodes Stewi1950 (talk) 09:59, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

When did I say you did...? Mattythewhite (talk) 11:22, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Historical Context

Per Template:Infobox person Place of birth: city, administrative region, sovereign state. Soviet union never had sovereignty over Baltic states. Occupation of the Baltic states. People born in France 1940–1944 are not listed as born in German Reich – Claude Miller, Christian Boltanski, Catherine Deneuve, Bérangère Vattier, Frank Alamo, Jean-Claude Dassier... --Klõps (talk) 23:53, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

So this table at the Riga article is incorrect, then? Mattythewhite (talk) 00:14, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes. It is oversimplified. I've seen these tables often removed as WP:LISTCRUFT. If article about Paris would have this kind of table it would also have a line  Nazi Germany 1940-1944. So firstly, go and change these persons, that I listed above, as born in German Reich.--Klõps (talk) 01:35, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Mark Tyler

Hi Matty. I added 1 league appearance to Mark Tyler in the 1994/1995 season. Been a lot of talk recently about how many games he's played with 500 approaching. It seems the figure on Wikipedia omits a 73 minute substitute appearance against Bradford on 14/01/95 - http://www.uptheposh.com/matches/672/

That match is actually mentioned in the text with a source ( ref [8] ). So effectively the citation already exists, but the table is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kengandhi (talk • contribs) 18:01, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Other than that it's fully comprehensive. Soccerbase, for example, includes the sub appearance but omits 18 (from Ismithian, FA Cup Qualifiers and FA Trophy games)

Andy 143.159.117.154 (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


This has been reverted, so I've done some fact checking against www.uptheposh.com (which is the best source for Peterborough United appearances) and found 2 differences. A league trophy match in 96/97 and a league match in 00/01. I have updated accordingly, citing the source

Andy Kengandhi (talk) 19:29, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Adam Zielinski

Well I was right in the middle of adding references for Bruno Zuculini when you undid everything I was working on. Not going back and doing it over again now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madaski (talk • contribs) 00:35, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Brad Halliday

http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/article/2016/middlesbrough-fc-boro-bradley-halliday-joins-cambridge-united-fc-3280922.aspx

it's the official link of the transfer.RCFrance (talk) 19:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

It's the Brad Halliday article you ought to be putting it in! Mattythewhite (talk) 19:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Everton squad

Hi,

Could you pop over to the Everton F.C. page and possibly provide a third opinion on the issue of whether players without a squad number should be listed as in the first team or on the reserves/academy page. I've posted a similar question on the talk page but had no other input as yet. An IP editor insists on listing them in the reserves despite both the official club website listing them in the first team, and the WP:FOOTBALL MOS for Club pages stating that they should be included if they have previously played for the first team in the current spell at the club. The other editor involved is: User:220.241.108.114 (talk). I've also posted on his talk page but have had no reply.

(I'm not sure of the process for requesting dispute resolution through the "proper" channels, and I noticed you'd edited the article recently, and you're an admin, hence why im asking you for assistance).

Many thanks douts (talk) 15:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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Danish punk...

...continues to remove B-clubs from boxes without a care in the world, accompanied by the (non)PC update! This is your longtime collaborator AL, got bored and quit again for two weeks, here i am again.

Their address? Here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:176.23.119.207). An example of this (i have already reverted it)? Willy Boly! Nice to "see" you, all the best --85.242.133.151 (talk) 01:27, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Given a level 4 warning. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Robbie Brady

I honestly don't understand why you think I am vandalizing Robbie Brady's wikipedia page, I have added correct information with perfectly reliable sources; all of which contain the information I have added into the page; and I have done nothing to suggest any form of vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamestlynch99 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't expect you tell me stop vandalizing again. I have not vandalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamestlynch99 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

AWB

Because I feel that the parameter is too long and leaves to unnecessary amounts of whitespace in infoboxes. GiantSnowman 17:17, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Why not rename the paramater to 'national-update' to match the current 'club-update', and be sufficiently descriptive but not super long? GiantSnowman 19:50, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Discussion now started at Template talk:Infobox football biography‎ - you're right, I should have gone there first. GiantSnowman 20:04, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Matt, thanks for that, maybe you could get permission to change the photo of Nedum because it is very blurrey. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uebelhoer (talk • contribs) 19:17, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Stones

I don't understand.. statistics means statistics.. how can i source 6 apps and 1 goal for example.. Whoscored are very reliable.. im a man utd fan doing man city fans dirtywork what else can i do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GanjaCaliphate (talk • contribs) 23:05, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Paul Pogba

I'm sorry for input the wrong information of Paul Pogba's playing statistics, thank you for remind me, have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FredericoHibertus95 (talk • contribs) 09:08, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Marcos Rojo

Hi. My intention was just to change all references of "Sporting Lisbon" to "Sporting CP". If I deleted any other info, it was a mistake and I'm sorry. I intend to keep those changes as "Sporting Lisbon" is an incorrect and offensive term towards Sporting's origins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royk14 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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