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Your two cents...

...if you please on my last edits at Gregor Balažic. First, I performed a blanket revert but, upon closer inspection, saw the error of my ways and reinstated most of the last users (or just user)' contributions.

However, two things strike me as unacceptable: 1 - Karpaty sub-section, take a look at the last paragraph (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Bala%C5%BEic&diff=712173596&oldid=712173552) before I stepped in, ALL his goals scored (that's overdetail is it not?) with very subpar language ("he HAS scored", "he HAS entered the pitch" for stuff that occurred 4/5 years ago). Also, the SOCCERWAY.com entries don't prove a things as far as debuts/captaincies are concerned, am I not correct?

Much more serious (perhaps we are dealing with a die-hard fan of the player, and thus he NEVER committs a foul, let alone a penalty), have a peek at what the account did in the Partizan section, without one word (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Bala%C5%BEic&diff=712024450&oldid=712022519). We are talking about SOURCED (albeit not in English) info, and relevant for his career (penalty actions, subsequent rants to the press).

If I incurred in any wrongdoings, please tip me so I can further undo myself. I'll get to work on José Semedo (footballer, born 1985) now, even though it was not I who added the honours in the first place. Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:42, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

  • So glaringly obvious it hurts (only now "delved" into it), the account is a die-hard FK Partizan supporter, just look at the last three letters of the name, that is why they removed the incident! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:55, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Soccerway can be used to cite debuts if you're using the player profile, rather than individual match reports. I don't believe they make any reference to captancies. I've watchlisted the article so I'll keep an eye out for any more disruptive editing. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:57, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Regarding your note/doubt: "On 16 April 2014, Balažic has first time in his career in Karpaty played as CAPTAIN against Illichivets Mariupol in Ukrainian Premier League.[12]", followed by a Soccerway match report. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 21:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

  • Done in Semedo, should the sources be deemed reliable. Also, could you please see if the language I added to the PERSONAL section (I ref'd my "stuff", don't worry)? Semedo credits Ronaldo for not "dying in the streets if he had left the Sporting academy". Ronaldo has never been my cup of tea (I am Portuguese, but I am not a sheep, no insult meant to those lovely creatures), but if Semedo says that, I think a small mention (after all, it had a MAJOR impact in his career, according to him) is warranted, methinks. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:48, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

AfD of the year

Stumbled across this "beauty", Vasco Sousa. Plays now in the THIRD REGIONAL DIVISION (!), has one bench presence in the Portuguese Second Division as a grand total; the rest of his (for now small, aged 20) career is also amateurish.

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 17:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Freddie Ladapo Edit,

So you removed my post,

http://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/article/crystal-palace-football-club-are-delighted-to-announce-that-they-have-signed-23-year-old-striker-freddie-ladapo.-3033559.aspx

That gives you proof that he has joined the club — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.152.230 (talk) 19:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

My Wikipedia input

While I appreciate assistance from other Wikipedia users, I do not appreciate "final warnings" and find that inappropriate. I assume that all accounts are monitored for anyone deliberately "vandalizing" the site. I will not re-enter information that you have deleted and will be more careful looking for references for edits in future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOESPICE (talk • contribs) 01:21, 4 June 2015‎ (UTC)

Sorry, this isn't actually relating your input. It's a question. I wasn't sure how to message you any other way as I haven't been using Wiki for too long. When creating a new page from scratch, once I click 'save' does it get reviewed and then the admins decide whether to make it public? Also, does the page need to have a certain amount of info before it will be published? AjjCM (talk) 23:30, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Scott Carson

Hi Matty,

I can't even remembered what I changed on the Scott Carson page but I'll try to add an explanation in future!

Stuartwilson23 (talk) 17:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of York Community Stadium

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Duesenberg Guitars

I was actually reverting a vandal on this article and you've reverted my reversion.. 2.219.244.174 (talk) 23:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC) Me

Ruud Gullit

Hi Matty - I was reverting a previous change that had removed a couple of words from an already cited quote that meant the quote was no longer accurate annd made no sense. The addition was part of the article cited for the entire sentence and as such would be covered by that citation. I'd normally have changed this under my own username (User:AndrewMcQ) but I've mislaid my password after a longish absence from editting. Would you revert or should I?

Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.121.157 (talk) 15:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Claude Makélélé

Is there a source that says Makélélé has obtained "Level 1 of management - 2016 bake sale manager" as a football player? You reverted my edit removing it but I can't seem to find anything about it online. 82.24.7.74 (talk) 19:12, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Um, I was hoping you could, considering it was you who added it. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of York Community Stadium

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Lingard appearances

Hi there. May I know why you reverted this edit? He played in the league against Everton yesterday. --Graphium 12:53, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Because the timestamp in the "club-update" paramater should have been updated, as is explained at Template:Infobox football biography#Parameters. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:00, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Ok thanks for clarifying. I thought there was some sort of factual error in that, couldn't quite figure it out. --Graphium 13:11, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Unprotect

Hello,

Can you please remove the Protection from Creation on Gevorg Karapetyan. I would like to move the article I created -Gevorg Karapetyan (footballer)-to that title. He has now made an appearance in a fully-professional league. Thanks.

--Gri3720 (talk) 21:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Moved to Gevorg Karapetyan. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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Stoppila Sunzu

Zambian defender Stoppila Sunzu has been listed as a player playing for Lille B and yet he plays for the Lille main squad and he scored his first goal for the club this past weekend when they took on Nantes in a Ligue 1 encounter, it was his first goal of the season for Lille. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chipolopolodh (talk • contribs) 20:02, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Rickie Lambert

Greetings from Spain. Thanks for reverting my edits - I hadn't seen the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_97#International_goals. Best wishes. 77.130.199.64 (talk) 05:16, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Citations

Hello. Noticed you updating Soccerway refs to change the publisher from Global Sports Media to the current Perform Group. Can I suggest that you also update the accessdate to match. E.g. this edit to Papa Bouba Diop: as of December 2012, when the cited page was accessed, the publisher was Global Sports Media and not Perform Group.

Also, was wondering why you're removing the |agency= parameter from cited sources credited to a press agency? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. Most probably removed in ignorance, could you point out where I have so I can restore it? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Couple at Jack Butland, one in the edit to Papa Bouba Diop linked above, are the ones I noticed. Thanks, Struway2 (talk) 14:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Quick survey

For several years, the national/regional categories stood as follows: the obvious SPANISH FOOTBALLERS and then BASQUE/GALICIAN/CATALAN/NAVARRESE/CANARIAN/etc. No one seemed to be bothered by this approach.

Now, User:Bupasival (whom I have notified to drop his two cents here) has "corrupted" the overall approach, removing VALENCIAN FOOTBALLERS and inserting FOOTBALLERS FROM VALENCIA (CITY) in its place (in Jorge Bartual, for reasons that elude me, even the SPANISH FOOTBALLERS cat was removed!). Maybe we just go and remove ALL regional categories and leave only the country (as far as I know, only the Spanish footballers have that, no others)? What's your intake, please?

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 03:05, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Hi, I just followed what many others had already started in other countries Category:Footballers_by_city_or_town. The Spanish and Catalan Wikipedia have both organized the Spanish footballers in the same way as I was doing. I will, of course, stop working on this if you indicate me it's wrong. Thanks and sorry for disturbing.

Thank you for replying. I am not quite sure what path to follow, that is why I contacted an administrator. Your two cents User:Mattythewhite, please? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I can't see any issues with these categories. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

What categories? The ones I presented in the "opening statement" or the ones created by Bupasival (or both)? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 19:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I imagine Category:Footballers from Valencia (city) is preferable, as it's more specific than Category:Valencian footballers, and to include both would be WP:OVERCAT. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:07, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Statistics boxes for Swedish players

Hi, I was expanding Jordan Larsson but I don't know what to do with a statistics box. The Swedish league runs from Spring to Autumn, and the cup from summer to the next spring, so for example it would be the 2014–15 cup but the 2015 league. Any ideas? '''tAD''' (talk) 14:09, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

When I've encountered this, I've placed the cup appearances into the year in which they were played, like at Steven Gerrard. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I did the right thing

I edited jamie vardy for the match Leicester city vs Sunderland you can check it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rushiv123 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

You only updated the goals. You should also update the appearances, and the timestamp in the club-update parameter. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

José Luis Astiazarán

"Interesting" actions have been occurring in this page. First it was an anon, now there is an account with THE SAME name of the subject. Even if it is the person reflected in the article doing the edits (thus, Mr. Astiazarán would know better about his career/life than anyone), the M.O. at which they are carried out is absolutely unacceptable (removal of all refs in "Law career" part of storyline, all that without one word in summary). OF COURSE, I would be prepared to bet both my hands that the anon and the account are the same person!

What's your intake on this, please? Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Could be a WP:COI. Watchlisted. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:04, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Revert in Kasper Schmeichel

Really?! I clearly described it in the edit summary; pointing out that the citations already used for height in the article says 189 cm (and exact same on his official Danish Nacional Team page). I'm sure the vandal who originally inserted the mistake months ago would be overjoyed to see that a moderator protects his edit. Regards, 62.107.217.20 (talk) 22:16, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Leroy Griffiths

Leroy Griffiths does play for Bedford Town currently. My caps and goals figures were rough estimates but he definitely does play for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.22.130 (talk) 15:29, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Category:FC Wil players has been nominated for discussion

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Repeating cells in footballer's stats table (Dele Alli)

Hi there, the quote I mentioned in my change is from the very page you linked to. It supports combining cells. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Indeed. The linked discussion doesn't appear to form a consensus for either format, although the example table does still display repeated cells. Yet another discussion might be in order, although I'm personally happy to carry on using the repeated cell approach. Even if there's only a slight advantage in accessibility, I'd argue it's the favourable approach. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 14:10, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)The quote doesn't "support combining cells". It says that it doesn't do too much harm if you do, although repeating them is better.
How I interpret it is, if people create a table with the cells combined, then it isn't worth upsetting them by insisting on having the cells repeated for what seems to be a marginal improvement in accessibility. But where the table's stable with the cells already repeated, we shouldn't make it less accessible by combining them just because we think it looks better that way. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:36, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, folks. Robby.is.on (talk) 23:26, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Wilfried Bony

Hi Matty,

I work for NVA Entertainment who represent Wilfried, can you please allow the edits.

I have asked by Wilfried himself to change the photo and add his official website. Can you please help with this?

Actually - as you seem like a Wiki pro can you help me out with a few things?

Many thanks.

Darren — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarrenMN2S (talk • contribs) 13:25, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I've added a link to Wilfried's official website to the 'External links' section, although the image has been deleted, presumably as a copyright violation. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 14:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Ben Watson

Matty, I believe your comment re my editing of Ben Watson's page was unnecessary. He scored a goal yesterday against West Brom and I added it to his tally. On no other footballer's page have we been required to provide sources or references for the 'goals scored' section. Aefevans (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

If you check Soccerbase, you will see Watson has 51 league appearances 2 league goals for Watford. It appears as though you assumed the stats were up to date as of the previous match. You also failed to update the timestamp in the pcupdate parameter. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:16, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
How do you update the timestamp? Aefevans (talk) 16:37, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@Aefevans: When editing the matches or goals, look for the club-update = or nationalteam-update = parameter. The former is for club updates and the latter is for national team updates. At the very least, add the date of the match played, like this: club-update = 17 April 2016, although some prefer a timestamp, like this: club-update = 15:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC).
I came here to remind Mattythewhite not to bite newcomers, again. It would be a simple thing to update the time stamp rather than reverting. At the very least, inform the editors why they are being reverted. It's not vandalism or event providing unsourced material (although it is a bit of that), it's inexperience. If we expect to convert editors to the right way, the best way it take the spark of enthusiasm and fan it into a flame rather than extinguishing it by treating their edits as unwanted. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Is an editor of nearly three years service really a newcomer? And my primary reason for reverting was that the stats were factually incorrect, not merely the lack of a timestamp. I almost always leave an explanatory note about the timestamp, but admittedly forgot to do so here. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:45, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry I'm not as tech-savvy as you, Matty.Aefevans (talk) 16:21, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Divock Origi

His father Mike played for Oostende 1992-1996 according to what I found to be sourced material in the Wikipedia article about his dad. Therefore it is not unsourced content per se, although I accept revertion, you should really not go after me for such a thing given that the statement is factually correct. What was I supposed to do? Linked Mike Origi career stats into Divock's article?

Lommaren (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Please refer to WP:V. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Table dates

Could I get you to make good on this waringing? I gave the editor in question another warning after edits like this one, only for them continue with edits like this a few days later. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:41, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

List of people from Wolverhampton

Thank you for your recent edit on List of people from Wolverhampton. This list includes notable people born in, or associated with, the city of Wolverhampton. The entry that you removed is Joleon Lescott who is a graduate of the Wolverhampton Wanderers youth academy. He made his professional and first team debut with Wolves; was named the supporters' Young Player of the Year two years running and was named in the Championship team of the year for the 2005–06 season before moving to Everton. As with other listings of this type birth, education, career, etc. are all used for entry eligibility and I would argue that eight years is a reasonable justification. Please restore this entry if you agree. Cheers.Keomike (talk) 22:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

But you could argue he has an association with Manchester, having spent five years with Manchester City and winning multiple honours with them. I would have thought it most practical for the inclusion criteria to be centred on having been born or raised in the settlement in question. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
In the List of people from Los Angeles inclusion is based on being born in, current residents of, or are otherwise closely associated with or from the city of Los Angeles. They get around this issue by adding the place of birth in parenthesis e.g. (born in New York). Would adding (born in Birmingham) satisfy? Keomike (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2016 (UTC) [Note: ..current residents of.. sounds unencyclopaedic.]
I wouldn't be opposed to be it being reintroduced with such justification, although it would be best to see uniformity across these lists. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Luis Rubiales / Others

Absolutely gut-wrenching, the punk does it again (Google Translate from the Spanish entry, removing ALL refs in storyline!), maybe time for another yearly protection?

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:26, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

  • No intake? Okeydokey. A technical question now, if I can further bother: I was reverted in Simão Sabrosa (not contesting the reversion, it stays the other guy's way, whatever), but received no notification in my top-right corner as with the last account. Is there something I need to alter in my account settings?

Thanks in advance --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I warned the user just a few moments ago. Possibly a glitch, I occasionally don't get notified of reverts. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:19, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I see (the second part). About the first, I would not bother notifying this person, they have a neverending array of IPs, just my two cents. Also, judging by how they handle themselves (Google Translator, summaries in Spanish), chances are they don't know the first thing about English to understand/act upon a warning. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree that templates of this nature are not notable. I've put it up for deletion. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the headsup. I return in kind, vandal returned to the Luis Rubiales piece and did it again!! Surely something must be made. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:34, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Note (even though you will be notified because I highlighted your name in the due address): I only contacted User:Drmies to see if you two admins can concoct a possible measure and because he was the last one to insert a year-long page protection. I'm seething over here regarding this punk's antics, all I can say :( --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected for two years. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:23, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your attention, WP appreciates it! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

  • This guy (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:89.65.174.113) will NEVER heed to these notifications, I have seen thousands of examples of their M.O., in fact am reverting/composing some as I write this message to you. Another one seems to be User:Savvasg21 (for two or three years and counting now! Operates mainly in Greek articles), but I am not sure if someone has addressed the subject to them yet.

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 00:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Another situation that may warrant a look or two (thought the person, whom I suspect is the subject's brother, had already desisted in his ways, he has not): Jacobo Sanz Ovejero, all negative mentions (62 goals conceded with Valladolid, disciplinary problems at PAOK, physical confrontation with a teammate at CD Tenerife, all stuff but the first duly ref'd!) summarily removed without one word, and replaced with storyline "à la Rubiales"; in the process, SIX refs were removed.

Hey, I suspect of the sibling (remember speaking with him some four years ago, he said he understood how we worked here, yeah right!), but could be Mr. Ovejero himself. What's your intake? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 01:09, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

IP warned, and the article is already on my watchlist. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:27, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

AFEfutbol (talk) 15:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)We are writing you from Afefutbol regarding LuisRubiales Wikipedia, English version. We think there is a misunderstanding and therefore the mentioned page has been blocked. We kindly ask you to unlock this page for us since we are responsible for their profile within Wikipedia. Thanks in advance. AFEfutbolAFEfutbol (talk) 15:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

IP nuisance

Found the new address of the Danish punk that removes B-clubs in box (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.23.119.207). Just look at what he did in Paulo Oliveira (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paulo_Oliveira&diff=716430233&oldid=700186331, no B-clubs and NO LOANS and birthyear changed, followed by a stats update without the PC)!

Signing off, cheers --Be Quiet AL (talk) 01:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

30em

...is standard - you shouldn't change it from the original version (just like you shouldn't really have changed the referencing style, but I let that slide...) GiantSnowman 07:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

WP:BOLD and all that. My justification is I felt I was improving the article by enhancing readability, via not having redundant columns in the references. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:47, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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My Edits

I edited Stockport County's page that you reverted because I was making valid points - I have been to their matches in the past and paid my money so I have the rights to film in the football ground then after all my hard work and time carefully capturing and editing the footage I essentially get told to remove my video from the internet (I filmed using my expensive professional camera may I add)... yet anyone who films unofficial match footage on there phone oh its ok they are allowed to do that - I make no money off it and I am doing no harm.

All I'm doing with my Wikipedia edits are stating the FACTS. I own and run a highly professional video company based near the club, Stockport County have publicly embarrassed me and damaged my professional reputation by making up absolute nonsense and putting in on their website after one of their directors told me I would be ok to film.

- Alex 3570xela (talk) 14:49, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Boreham Wood F.C.

I've added a link to prove that the club have turned full time and highlighted quote from that article from the chairman below:

"Hunter went on “Going to a day time training programme three days a week, is tantamount to turning Meadow Park and Boreham Wood into a full time football club for the first time in our history.." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lasko26 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Aron Einar Gunnarsson

Hello,

I have a question concerning Aron Gunnarsson: If I'm reading correctly, it was you who added the full name Aron Einar Malmquist Gunnarsson and sourced it to Hugman's The PFA Footballers' Who's Who 2010–11. First of all, thank you very much for adding information and full names, these are things that are very difficult to find elsewhere. Concerning the name: I'm very surprised by the third name Malmquist, as it is not a common Icelandic name and it is very rare to have more than two names (not counting the patronymic). Please don't take this question as an accusation or worse, I am merely unable to get access to the book anytime soon and was hoping you could tell me in what way the name is mentioned there, e.g. does the author have access to official passports/documents of the ligue and such stuff? I found the three names nowhere else, so I would be very glad if you could help me out as I am currently working on a project that aims to get voice recordings of the correct pronunciation of the names of all players at the UEFA EURO 2016 and would like to include the full name (including Malmquist). Thank you for your time and your work here. Sincerely HowardMR (talk) 17:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Wayne Routledge 20th March 2016

Hi, I uploaded an image on the page for Wayne Routledge and also made some other edits (by mistake). The image I uploaded was correct though yet you still deleted it. Could you give me a reason why you deleted and or could you just undo that step, thanks Ben Renwick (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Renwick (talk • contribs) 18:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't believe I deleted it, but I may have tagged it for deletion, as it did not have a Wiki friendly copyright. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 18:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I think it did have Wiki friendly copyright as I took the photo myself and provided evidence for this Ben Renwick (talk) 21:24, 8 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Renwick (talk • contribs) 21:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

It's still in the article, in the Swansea City section. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Ben Renwick (talk) 10:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Andy Murray

My recent edit was supported by a link to the relevant Wikipedia page about Olympic qualification. If there is something wrong with that other Wikipedia page, then will you be changing that as well or deleting that page altogether? I'm not intending this to sound bad, but it is a genuibe question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelisuk (talk • contribs) 09:37, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, content needs to be cited to sources external of Wikipedia, please refer to WP:RS. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:31, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Danny Drinkwater

Why was my edit reverted? Samuel J Walker (talk) 16:37, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Because your stats update was not complete, the totals were not updated. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:42, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
In that case, wouldn't it be easier to update the areas I missed rather than re-do the whole edit? Looking at the page now, another user has edited it and made a bigger hash of it than I did. Samuel J Walker (talk) 16:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Leighton Baines

Hi there. Why did you keep changing his height to 1.73m? He is not. On the official site of Evertonfc and the Premier League site, both said 1.70m. Obviously you ain't an Evertonian so please stop putting wrong stats on his page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.64.241.30 (talk) 12:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

I changed it back because the new reference didn't work. You don't have to be a Toffee to edit Everton related pages, so let's nip that in the bud. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:30, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

The difference is pretty obvious. We are more careful in editing these page and won't insert incorrect data on these page cos we love our players. Not pointing finger at you my friend but as I recall the orginial data is correct someone put the link recently which indicates 1.73m and it is iwrong. Here you go for the ref: from the OS of Everton: http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lb/leighton-baines It states 1.70m not 1.73m. And the OS of the PL: http://m.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/playerprofile.html/leighton-baines It states 1.70m too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.64.240.228 (talk) 12:58, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Response

Hello, you sent me a message yesterday regarding putting capital letters on common nouns and having the same link in the info boxes. I'd just like to offer an explanation and if it satisfies you then great and if not then i'll listen to your advice. Regarding the capital letters, I have only been doing this in info boxes because the word promoted or relegated is in brackets and is not in a sentence. If it were I would not be putting a capital letter at the beginning of the words. I also think the info box looks more visually aesthetic with capital lettered words, otherwise i find the word (promoted or relegated) looks out of place as generally every other word in the info box has a capital letter. Secondly, regarding having the same link, I have only been doing this because clubs that are promoted and relegated obviously change league and thus the league and last season league link are different. In these cases there are two links. The problem I have is there is then a lack of consistency with clubs that stay in the same league as they only have one link, because as you say duplication is occurring. Thus personally I think it is better to have two links on all, rather than one link on some and two on other or one link on all and then having some league links you can't access.

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartGriffin93 (talk • contribs) 21:06, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Richard Brodie

Brodie signed for York City today. Maybe google things before you accuse people of changing wikipedia pages without reason. I expect you to correct his entry to reflect the changes i made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.12.191.4 (talk) 14:30, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

If you had bothered to check, you would have seen I have since updated Mr Brodie's biography. With a source too, which you neglected to do. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Koke (footballer, born 1992)

Quick question, before I go mental and clean that up (if need be, hence my asking you): are those sources sufficient for the STYLE OF PLAY section? Save for The Independent article, that looks like something out of a Football Manager report! Furthermore, most of his player profile is already covered (with REAL refs) in the intro, is it not?

Attentively, awaiting reply to edit there again --Be Quiet AL (talk) 19:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

I would agree that the non-Independent references don't look reliable. But bear in mind content should only be in the lead if it also appears in the main body of text. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:42, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Gotcha! I will replace those ghastly "refs" (WHOSCORED, FOOTBALL-LINEUPS), keeping the wording. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Julien Fernandes

Incredible how these obscure players get this level of idiocy (it's somehow "understandable" that players with a lot of coverage are "presented" with vandalism, for instance Coke (footballer) had the audacity of scoring twice against Liverpool, his article had already been destroyed before the game was over!), and it happens for the second time now, getting a bit tiresome, i'll elaborate now:

1 - constantly changing the player's height, I have since rebrowsed the links available and found out that it is quite approximate (I have gone with 1,82 per the Portuguese - as him - sources); 2 - changing stats for Iraklis and Enosis Neon even though ALL the sources say otherwise; 3 - the most abhorrent change of all, notice how they leave the dashes in box (for years with clubs) after they finish (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julien_Fernandes&diff=718304374&oldid=718304150)!

Of course, the account User:Sousinho is also them, i'll be damned if not... If you can't provide any assistance (in the form of page protection, from what I have seen, no one - from us the well-intended, that is - touches this article but me, so that would not be a problem), no worries, i'll add it to my watchlist.

Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 00:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Sorry for reinstating the persondata in this article, "blame it" on copy/paste :) --Be Quiet AL (talk) 01:25, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Sandro Raniere

You sent me a message saying the above page was edited from this ip address, I am afraid, I have never been to nor heard of this page/person before this. Just a heads up that whoever you were looking for has a new ip address and is still out there - 86.167.189.231  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.189.231 (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Interesting "contribution"

According to this "user" (please see this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carlos_del_Cerro_Grande&diff=721660899&oldid=721660086), Daniel Carriço had every reason to call this ref a "faggot". Three sending offs yesterday, all fair, but there is just no pleasing "persons" like this, football is an ALL-OUT WAR.

I cannot even (wait, I can!) imagine what their other edits are, but I suppose (per list of contributions) they are dedicated to spew hate on all things Barcelona. Pityful! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 14:42, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

User warned. From a quick glance his previous contributions don't seem unconstructive, so I've not blocked yet. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:44, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, maybe just a kidder (I, for one, am not laughing here), let's wait then. Thanks --Be Quiet AL (talk) 15:58, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Aston Villa

Dr Tony Xia has bought the club Callumhollier99 (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Scrambling of infobox fields

Matty, is there a new editing trend that I am not aware of (and I am not being sarcastic mate, serious as can be)? Just in Éder (Portuguese footballer), I have seen two accounts (yes, I have seen as many accounts as IPs overall) scrambling the fields (leaving club stuff first, then updates, then national team stuff, then club stuff again, the lots!) and leaving them like this (in Éder, you have HARRY45SS https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%89der_(Portuguese_footballer)&diff=721840505&oldid=721764832 and next you have established user UNREAL7 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%89der_(Portuguese_footballer)&diff=721919868&oldid=721903018).

Too much thinking of other examples, but I do remember these two accounts (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adrien_Rabiot&diff=716883129&oldid=716784796 or https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nolito&diff=721655141&oldid=720761354). If I am in the wrong reverting this, would like to know why, but of course i'll abide to the (possible) new M.O. Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:34, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

I believe it's some kind of technical issue causing this to happen, but I don't know actually what. It's not the users doing it intentionally. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:36, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

I see, no biggies then. Thanks. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Why?

Hi there, I saw your message in my talk page, I admit that it was my mistake to not add sources in some past edits, what I don't understand is why would I get blocked from editing, I didn't vandalize anything or do something unforgivable... I'm only here on Wikipedia to do good, not to do bad TheSoccerBoy (talk) 00:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Tosin Adarabioyo

Hi, there is an error on Tosin's page which you have reverted a number of times. This message is sent on Tosin's behalf. The name "Oluwadoyinsolami" does not feature in his full name. It was originally posted on Wikipedia following an error on an FA publication. I have viewed Tosin's passport and can confirm that "Oluwadoyinsolami" does not feature at all. Do let me know what is required in order to permanently correct the error.

Hi, content on Wikipedia is cited by reliable, published sources, meaning an alternative will be required to change his full name. But looking at the Birth records, Mr Adarabioyo does have two names beginning with O following "Abdul-Nasir Oluwatosin". Can you shed any light as to what they stand for? Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 12:58, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Watford FC No mistake made with the edit, but I forgot to reference my change. Someone else has made the edit once again now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.99.157 (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I am an OTRS agent, and reviewing an email ticket:2016051610006792 received in connection with this issue.

As you know, when it comes to alternative names we follow the policy: WP:COMMONNAME.

While it appears there is one site using Oluwadoyinsolami As part of his name, I reviewed some of the other links and did not find another link supporting that name. The subject contends the source of that was in error but we don't need to settle whether it was an error. Per policy we should be using "the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)".

I have changed the name. Please let me know if you think I'm mistaken.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Sorry, but I don't agree with this change. WP:COMMONNAME relates only to article titles, which is irrelevant to this discussion. We have a reliable source to cite the subject's full name, that being the official website of the Football Association. In line with WP:V, I don't believe we should remove this sourced content based on an email. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
And based on this search on Findmypast, the subject's full name is "Abdul-Nasir Oluwatosin" followed by two names beginning with O. This aligns with the Football Association doc which states "Abdul-Nasir Oluwatosin Oluwadoyinsolami Ol", with the last O presumably incomplete. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016

Since when do I have to provide a "reliable" sources to templates?!? --82.131.227.38 (talk) 17:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Marcus Rashford

Could you please semi-protect Marcus Rashford? Too many useless edits... JMHamo (talk) 19:12, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, could you also hide this edit Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Jon McCarthy

Hello. For Birmingham's match at Forest on 15 Nov 97, Soccerbase lists the entire matchday squad as unused subs. Mr McCarthy started that game. So he played 41 league matches in 97/98, not 40, which puts the total of league games played for BCFC at 124 and the total at 142, which is verifiable from BCFC book sources. I'll fix them.

What's bothering me now you've brought it to my attention, is how many of the others who played in that game have I got wrong at the players lists? Another thing to do... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Whats the point of having no year then -2014, we know he is from ajax it looks wrong like -2014, makes no sense — Preceding unsigned comment added by GanjaCaliphate (talk • contribs) 13:22, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Mauricio Pochettino

Matty, even though this addition (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mauricio_Pochettino&diff=719419787&oldid=719316904) now has what you asked for, a citation, I still feel it to be 100% irrelevant (boys and wife not one bit relevant, and a tale about him going to see Shakespeare and hating it?) so I still removed it.

If you think I was in the wrong for doing it, please accept my apologies on behalf of WP and re-revert. Attentively --Be Quiet AL (talk) 23:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Hello, I'm new to editing on Wikipedia so I hope it's OK to post here. You said I needed to add an reference to my info. I did then the above person said the info I put on was completely irrelevant. Now, the other manager's profiles I've seen all have personal info like that, so who is that person to say it's irrelevant? Are all editors on wiki equal or is there a hierarchy of people who can decide what goes on someone's page? I assume you agree because you haven't returned it. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.203.69 (talk) 17:53, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Only now saw this reply, and now I counter. No, I am no one to say what goes and what does not go in any page, Mr. Matty did not reply me regarding his feeling towards that bit. Can you please tell me, anonymous IP, why do you feel it is relevant? If ALL managers have stuff like that in their profile, then maybe I'm doing something wrong, would like to know why.

Now, solely Matty: per your last additions in this player/manager's article: this search (please see here https://es.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A9mSs2XO.0xXHmIAiWiT.Qt.;_ylu=X3oDMTEzdm1nNDAwBGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNwYWdpbmF0aW9u?p=NOMBRE+COMPLETO+POCHETTINO+TROSSERO&fr=yfp-t-777&fr2=sb-top-es.search&b=11&pz=10&xargs=0) provided several sources of his last name being Trossero. You removed it, fine it stays out (or at least I won't insert it again), but surely the SPANISH (or Spanish-speaking web) knows more about his full name than ESPN, no? Also, back in the day, you used the BDFUTBOL.com link to source Eduardo Berizzo's fullname, why is it not acceptable this time around?

Regarding the player position wikilink, why is Defender (association football)#Centre-back wrong if it's the ACTUAL name of the article here on WP? If you re-revert, know that I won't touch it again (but, at least, would like some words regarding the correct way to approach stuff like that, if you please) and please accept my apologies. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

You may have more of an idea than me, but I don't believe Argentine nationals have dual surnames like the Spanish. Centre-back may be a redirect, but that doesn't compromise its usefulness in any way; see WP:NOTBROKEN. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:31, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

I see. And what about the PERSONAL LIFE stuff which I removed (which, I remind you, consisted of this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mauricio_Pochettino&diff=719419787&oldid=719316904), and sprouted that "Who is this guy to say what goes on and what goes out" reply (did not merit one single word in my page, had to find out about it more than one week later)? Again, what do you think of it, does it belong in an ENCYCLOPEDIA?

Second issue: the leagues in intro, after being re-reverted, of course I must respect you and stop, but i'll be damned if I understand anything about this (lack of) consensus... Third issue (now, solely grammatical): in what instances is it more appropriate to use the symbol ";"? Maybe I have been doing it wrong the whole time. Fourth issue: in the light of the search results I provided, you still do not allow the other surname to be inserted (I said I would not touch that again, but I hate to see a job not fully done)? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:48, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

If it can be sourced, I'd include the stuff about his wife and children, but his first date is definitely not notable. I don't see the issue some have with divisions in the lead; it is relevant and useful information, and I don't see that their is consensus to exclude them. This explains the use of semi-colons better than I could, but with regard to the sentence in question, I felt it was way too long and needed dividing into two. As I stated above, I don't believe Argentine nationals hold dual surnames; see the first footnote at Lionel Messi. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the time and patience. 1 - Surnames (per reading Messi's footnote): that's strange, how can some sites/papers/others "invent" surnames? Like I said, Mr. Pochettino stays as it is; 2 - Lead: I don't have any "issue" with the competition being present in intros, it's just a while ago a consensus was reached (now it's been "unreached" I see) to remove it because of all the constant relegations and promotions. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:48, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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Anon IP - Honours

His sources are quite reliable (UEFA.com, etc), maybe you were misled by my actions, I undid them solely because of an appalling display.

Am in the process of (sort of) undoing myself, apologies for any inconvenience. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

He cited WP as a source in most of them, hence my reverts. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see, I only checked the players I edit regularly (i.e. never edited Mr. Modric's article, for example). Those I do edit have already been duly composed. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 21:02, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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Assistance

Turning blue in the face over here, so I come to you for safe mediation... I'm wondering what can be done in Álvaro Negredo's infobox, he also took part in that match against Equatorial Guinea in November 2013 that was annulled (see Marc Bartra or Juanfran (footballer, born 1985) where I added the ref about the event).

However, an anon user (dynamic IP to top it!) keeps changing his caps from 20 to 21 without any summary added. To add insult to injury, they "retire" the player from the national team (sure, he's going on 31 and has had an horrible club season, but that's it). Any thoughts? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Just for context, FIFA may not recognise that game, but the Spanish authorities do. See Mr Negredo's profile at the Spain national team official website, published by the RFEF, which lists him with 21 caps, one of which was obtained in the game in question. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:03, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I see... but is the RFEF not under (for lack of a better word) FIFA? As the ref (same) in Bartra and Juanfran explains, game was annulled. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 15:31, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
(Hope you don't mind my indenting your comment, for ease of reading.) It's arguable... The reference at Bartra is AS saying that, according to El Confidencial, FIFA had annulled it. They probably did, because the match isn't listed in Spain's results. But if we're talking reliable sources, Spain issues the caps, and Spain says it's given Mr Negredo 21 of the things. As far as I know, FIFA only counts appearances in its own competitions, or at least only publishes a count of appearances in its own competitions. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:44, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
So, in the light of that, do you think the (missing) cap should be reinstated to the due players? Cheers --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I would, but others might not. Interestingly, national-football-teams.com do count it as a FIFA match. Despite them being so obsessive about following FIFA (or their interpretation of FIFA) that they don't count appearances in the FA Centenary Match, without which Bobby Charlton wouldn't have set a record 106 England caps and Jimmy Greaves wouldn't have 44 England goals. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Just to add: without an explicit source to verify FIFA saying the match shouldn't count, I don't think many people would go against the RFEF source. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:51, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Per this match sheet (please see here http://eu-football.info/_match.php?id=666), 17 players appeared in that match. I have already reinstated cap in seven (Juanfran, Bartra, I. Martínez, Koke, Navas, Negredo and Llorente), the others are articles I have given up on (i.e. Sergio Ramos or Sergio Busquets, bet they still get a "healthy" dose of vandalism!). Cheers, and thanks for your cooperation (and thanks to Matty too, for kindly "ceding" us his page) --Be Quiet AL (talk) 19:35, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Lucas Digne

Hello to you. I see that you reverted my edit on Lucas Digne regarding his caps with France. I don't know the reason behind this but I would like to point out that he did actually play in 13 games with France as can be seen on his official FFF profile (which is already linked on the Wiki article). I changed the cap number again, this time changing the ntupdate parameter too (perhaps you reverted my edit because I forgot to change that too? Now that I think about it, it makes absolute sense). Let me know if your reverting was based on another problem. Cheers, Tuttiseme (talk) 22:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

The timestamp not being updated was the reason I reverted, but you've now addressed that. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
My bad then. I will try to be more careful next time. Thanks! Tuttiseme (talk) 22:47, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Eric Dier

Eric Dier... when is it time for protection? JMHamo (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

nft Template

What is wrong with it? It's easier and quicker to edit. Intruder007 (talk) 20:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Per Template:Nft#, "This template should always be substituted, i.e. use {{subst:Nft}}." Mattythewhite (talk) 20:56, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
It doesn't say anywhere it must be substituted. Intruder007 (talk) 01:58, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Except for the passage above...? Mattythewhite (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, found it. Intruder007 (talk) 17:29, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

June 2016, Clark

Hi. Instead of removing my changes you could add source... A lot of information in Wikipedia has no sources, but my change has a lot of resources in all Internet and this goal is an objective fact - commonly known. It is not difficult to access information. Wolfgang (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Of course, but my change was about the game in March against Switzerland - not own goal against Sweden! Look at this again! This is your mistake, not mine. [[1]] Please, just think for one second, before you do something. Wolfgang (talk) 21:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
I did think about it I assure you, and it was removed because it was unsourced. Please refer to WP:V and WP:BURDEN. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:33, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Ádám Szalai

A quick one... can you see what on earth is wrong with the display of reference #44? I sure as hell can't :(

Thanks in advance --Be Quiet AL (talk) 17:20, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

I've checked the attached help page and am none the wiser! Mattythewhite (talk) 18:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Situation kindly fixed by User:Struway2. Another quick one (or not!), was I correct in this reversion (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ant%C3%B3nio_Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o_da_Silva_Oliveira&diff=next&oldid=724956076)? We do favour years over seasons in infobox, do we not? For example, Mr. Conceição's spell as manager of Braga's first team consisted of ONE GAME, thus "2003" and not "2002-03"; my summary reaction reflected my frustration because it's the second time action has been performed without one word, and by the same user.

Pay attention, this user has the custom (or had, at least that) of coming to other people's pages and removing comments where they were being talked about. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 02:49, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

You're right in thinking we put years rather than seasons in the infobox. I would agree about placing prose above tables in biographies, and about retaining the content in the lead. Mattythewhite (talk) 10:39, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick input. António Conceição da Silva Oliveira: even though this link (http://www.foradejogo.net/manager.php?manager=19&language=2, present in the article) says that his spell with C.F. Os Belenenses was from JANUARY 2010 to MAY 2010, I was reverted again! Per this person's talk page, I see that they have received their fair share of warnings, and I can assure you they write ZERO summaries --Be Quiet AL (talk) 15:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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