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Request on 12:16:24, 3 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Verity1964


Hello! I don't know how I can make my sources any more verifiable, they are from published books which I thought would be more than adequate for a reference. Can you tell me where I am going wrong? Verity (trying to make up the Vikki Bramshaw article)

Verity1964 (talk) 12:16, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Verity1964 The issue is that neither of these sources are coverage of the individual. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:17, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


Both books give a biography of the author - one is written by the author herself but the other is an independent biography written by a different author who was publishing an anthology. There is plenty of coverage on the internet but I have used these sources because they are published books. I could remove the reference to her own book but would the independent biography be a fair reference?


Verity1964 (talk) 12:26, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 17:28:26, 3 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Blue416


I would like to refer you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CKC455 which is another campus radio station at another campus of our university. There page has even less of what you have outlined on details, yet is approved and displayed without issue.

I have demonstrated its notability through newspaper articles, media releases including Rogers TV, the biggest media network other than Bell in the area, and the sources (a number of them), are reliable, independent and totally unaffiliated with the article's topic.

The criteria has been met according to the details, and your response is contrary to what has been posted. I believe the due-diligence in this instance has been overlooked. How do I escalate the issue?

Blue416 (talk) 17:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


Blue416 (talk) 17:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)



I would like to refer you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CKC455 which is another campus radio station at another campus of our university. There page has even less of what you have outlined on details, yet is approved and displayed without issue.

I have demonstrated its notability through newspaper articles, media releases including Rogers TV, the biggest media network other than Bell in the area, and the sources (a number of them), are reliable, independent and totally unaffiliated with the article's topic.


The criteria has been met according to the details, and your response is contrary to what has been posted. I believe the due-diligence in this instance has been overlooked. How do I escalate the issue?

It was not given "mere mentions". Rogers TV did a complete feature on the station. Varsity newspaper did a full article on the station. The local newspaper did an interview feature as well. What do you want to see, because everything you mention is currently included?

Blue416 the sources you've included are largely run of the mill and lack significant in depth independent coverage.

Please also review our guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:45, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

18:48:41, 3 October 2017 review of submission by Page2Comm



Hi, I'm hoping you could give me some direction as to how the page needs to be re-written. I looked at pages for several former federal prosecutors as models and I thought the draft was in keeping with those examples, especially given that there were references/citations for everything. Any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks. -- Deb Page2Comm (talk) 18:48, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 20:34:03, 3 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by FrankelGnome


Hello Chrissymad,

I'm sorry if you have already gotten another message from me via the Tea House or article help locations. I think I submitted requests but I do not see any indication that they were successfully submitted. Anyway, I edited the article to make it read more like an encyclopedia article and not like an advertisement. However, I am unsure that my changes are sufficient for the article to be accepted. Can you see my current draft? If so, do you think it looks good to submit?

Thanks

FrankelGnome (talk) 20:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC) FrankelGnome (talk) 20:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Wolfe Street Academy (October 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Onel5969 TT me 21:58, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


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Hello! Chrissymad, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Onel5969 TT me 21:58, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Did not submit it. Merely reviewed it. Onel5969 TT me 22:16, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

sorry. I meant to post that on someone else's talk! Stupid mobile... CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 00:16, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
No worries... just wanted you to know it wasn't me who submitted it. Onel5969 TT me 00:36, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 14:07:17, 4 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Cvetanchoto


Hello,

Firstly thank you for your assistance. Can you please explain how this references not notable, as these are one of the biggest financial convention out there. I do not understand what is more reliable than that? How can clients of the company have a Wiki page but the company it self cannot, and do not think that I promote it somehow, it is just for information. And how can other companies have a Wiki page, I do not get what I do wrong.

Thanks again!

Cvetanchoto (talk) 14:07, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Cvetanchoto, the issue is that none of those sources are independent coverage of Codix. [1] is an exhibition notice (i.e. directly connected), [2] is basically a "members" page, and [3] is just a business listing. PRIMARY sources are discouraged and do nothing towards demonstrating notability. Primefac (talk) 14:38, 4 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

OK Primefac,

Can you give me an example of independent coverage and how is this not independent [4] as it is just a listing of IT providers ? Thanks again! Cvetanchoto (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Forbes, Business Week, Wired (magazine), New York Times, etc. As to your second question, Codix is listed as a part of the "FCI Community" meaning they are directly connected. Even if we were to consider it independent coverage, one source does not demonstrate notability, so you would still need to add more references. Primefac (talk) 15:16, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello Chrissymad. I see that you reverted the submission of the draft above with an edit summary stating that it hasn't been worked on since the last submission. If you will check the history you will see that I have made a number of edits improving this submission, so this isn't true. If you think that the original submitter, who isn't currently active, should be notified, why not just notify them? If you think the draft isn't ready for mainspace, why not decline it rather than undo the submission?—Anne Delong (talk) 16:49, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Is it possible to get the old page content that was submited for this review?

Hello, Chrissymad! Do you know if it is possible to get somewhere the version of my page that I send for this review? I did not find you comments in talks, so I did all wrong changes and deleted a lot. Sorry, I am a first timer.

Eiva — Preceding unsigned comment added by EivaAir (talkcontribs) 06:44, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 17:35:02, 5 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Charliepeterson123


Hi Chrissymad,

I am confused about what you mean by independent reliable coverage and would greatly appreciate you assistance on this issue,

Thanks

Charliepeterson123 (talk) 17:35, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

19:27:31, 5 October 2017 review of submission by CharlotteMillion


I need clarification on your response this is a puff piece. The first reviewer said I needed to prove Dr. Mottet's notability to deem him worthy of inclusion. His contributions of note come from the academic arena, which, according to wikipedia, is indicated by research of high impact, i.e. highly cited. I provided links to evidence that his research is frequently cited in other research and in a number of publications. The first reviewer never indicated the piece lacked substance; it simply needed independent verification that Dr. Mottet is worthy of note. The fact that he holds the highest level academic post at a major academic institution further qualifies him as notable. And the technology award, in particular, shows his impact in the field. I advocate that at a minimum Dr. Mottet's bio should be included. I can omit the reference to the specific books he has written. I can omit everything except his birth date and location, and the academic institutions he attended. I will retain the evidence of his notability. If I do these things, will you agree to include his listing? CharlotteMillion (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2017 (UTC)CharlotteMillion

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Skinduptruk (talk) 11:26, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

please define "in depth coverage"??

on Draft:Kurt Pudniks you said: None of the sources included feature in depth coverage.

well, did you look? please define "in depth coverage"??

Skinduptruk (talk) 11:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Skinduptruk I'll break it down for you:

Not a single one of these sources is coverage, let alone independent reliable coverage, nor is it significant. It's also rather telling that there is one single paper and only one being used as a source. This is also why we strongly discourage writing about yourself, it's hard to maintain a balanced neutral mindset. Cheers! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:16, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Well, #6 corresponds to He happened to win a Youth for Leukaemia photo competition in 1994, which would make the time stamp reasonable. However, winning a minor photo comp is not really a claim of significance. #7 would correspond with "getting a scholarship" which again isn't really significant. Primefac (talk) 12:28, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

World Water Congress

Dear Chrissymad,

Firstly, thank you for your assistance the day on Monday and yesterday.

Secondly, can you please explain how to get my article accepted and why my references are not notable? I do not understand the answer provided and everything is confusing and misleading in Wikipedia. I've changed the content and sources 3 times now...

I look forward to please tell in other words and step by step how to publish my article please.

Thank you very much again!

Ignacio - IDeregibus — Preceding unsigned comment added by IDeregibus (talkcontribs) 14:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC) IDeregibus (talk) 13:19, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 23:39:14, 6 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Drakside


Hello! I’ve submitted this page 3 times but has not yet been accepted. I’ve provided some links where it talks about this person. This person did not just become famous, this person is really known by his social media accounts. I would like you to help me to provide what type of specific websites I need for it to be accepted. Thanks in advance! -Drakside


Drakside (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

NPR Bronze Award

The New Page Reviewer's Bronze Award

For reviewing over 1700 pages within the past year, it is my pleasure to award you the NPR Bronze Award. Thank you for your service, Chrissy. It doesn't go unnoticed. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:55, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi!

Cute kitten for you,
just in case of feelings blue,
and a haiku, too!

Waggie (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Review of Submission dated 10th October | Cashify Information Page

Hey Chrissymad

Thank you for a quick review of my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cashify

You've mentioned that more reliable sources need to be presented with the information.

I need your help here since the citations have been very carefully marked by myself as per encyclopediac content on Wikipedia.

Can you specifically throw some light on which particular source of information is the one that needs revision for my article to go Live.

Best Regards (Connect2piyush (talk) 10:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)PiyushConnect2piyush (talk) 10:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC))

19:26:24, 11 October 2017 review of submission by Sadonyx


I am confused on the sources criteria; what would be a trustworthy Japanese source? Especially since this is a foreign band mostly popular among kids, its a lot harder to find sources on than on, say, an idol site. Do you need more context on the Oricon and Kohaku Uta Gassen to establish their nobility?


Sadonyx (talk) 19:26, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Wilhelm-Hack-Museum

Hi Chrissymad I noticed your revert on Wilhelm-Hack-Museum. A few things; I think User:Wilhelmhackmuseum is probably editing in good faith, if mistaken about or unaware of our policies. Their username is allowed (and has been verfied) on dewiki, so they may have had reasons to believe that translating de:Wilhelm-Hack-Museum was fine. I think an article on the museum is warranted, and the German page as a source for the translation would be fine, if proper attributed. Can we restore the page? All the best, Mduvekot (talk) 14:00, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Mduvekot I can't really comment on the naming issue as they've already been blocked and it's still not allowed on en but as far as the article, I'd say with proper sourcing, disclosure, go for it but the last variation was largely promotional/non-neutral. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Removed page

I can edit the links according to the guidelines if you can put the page back up. Thanks. Th page was for Terry A. Davis.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejak8592 (talkcontribs) 14:10, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Tommy Robinson

Ok but he is closely affiliated to For Britain leader Anne Marie Waters and he is a Luton Town fan. Ahehhdbxbbdjejj (talk) 15:38, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

13:37:37, 18 October 2017 review of submission by Karcsúbey



Dear Chrissymad! Thanks for your advices, we tried to correct our Mojo WorKings page as you indicated. I worked together with Ogodej, who much better expert on Wikipedia, than me, but I know better the band's related things. Hopefully our corrections are compatible to requirements of Wikipedia. Many thanks. Karcsúbey (talk) 13:37, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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11:10:54, 24 October 2017 review of submission by Rowboat2012


My article about the film producer Sam Davis has been proposed for deletion for the following reason: "No evidence of notability. Having produced a lot of films is no guarantee of notability: that is what film producers do. There is no reference mentioning him, except for IMDb. Apart from the fact that that IMDb is an unreliable source, all it does is list the films he has worked on, and does not show notability." What can I do, to make the article better so that it will be accepted?

Rowboat2012, you'll need to find source that aren't IMDb. On the draft your references are almost entirely to one website (which I'm assuming based on your name that you work for). You need to have multiple independent sources that discuss Davis for him to be considered notable. Primefac (talk) 12:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

hi, where can I find the templated decline reason? I don't type fast enough.`Dlohcierekim (talk)

Dlohcierekim Do you use the AFCH script?CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:02, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Maybe. Maybe I need to clear my cache. So far I have not gotten it to engage. Thanks, will keep trying.Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:05, 25 October 2017 (UTC) LOL. Wen in doubt, read the instructions. Thanks again.Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

16:41:21, 25 October 2017 review of submission by Mo-Beats


Hi Chrissy, I've added some references to the article. Please re-review. Thanks

Mo-Beats Those sources do not include the necessary coverage. They are just basic listings. Please review the links in the decline reason. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:42, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

SoundToys Draft

Hi,

I went to the IRC chat and got some tips for the page, mainly that I need more notable references. Since I'll be working to find these, I wanted to ask what specifically can I improve on the page to make it acceptable?

This is my first page, so thank you for your patience.

JohnMalone (talk) 21:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Request on 20:59:38, 30 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Leibnizcreation


Am having difficulties referencing my page

I need assistance in creating my page Leibnizcreation (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand why my references ain't adequate I have referenced it over and over again still being declined


Leibnizcreation (talk) 21:05, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit on Chiang Mai International School page

Hello Chrissymad, I have noticed that the Chiang Mai International school changes that I had made were reverted back to its previous revision. I work at the school and we want to modify the information on the page. I am not sure if I had missed any steps or not following the correct guidelines. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to prevent the changes from reverting back again.

Thank you,

Cpoungpeth (talk) 03:15, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Cpoungpeth, that big edit was reverted because it was a copyright violation, and even if permission is granted, we are not going to stand in for the website. I'm about to remove this too], since Wikipedia is not to be used for promotion. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 03:17, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

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The Society of Political Methodology

Hi Chrissy, We have revised the wiki page of The Society of Political Methodology based on the feedback you gave us. Could you take a look again to see if it is ok now. Thanks. HJ08003 (talk) 17:11, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

15:40:42, 3 November 2017 review of submission by Rowboat2012


Dear Chrissymad, I still don't understand why my Submission for Sam Davis has been declined. By winning an international Emmy he is in fact a notable person. Only a few people have achived this in Germany. And for the fact, that Sam Davis won the Emmy, there are multiple independent sources.

Kind regards (Rowboat2012 (talk) 15:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC))

Request on 20:57:44, 6 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Crystalhartwell


Hello, You had reviewed my entry for AutoBuy, and responded that the entry had issues because the references were not adequate (that the subject also needs to be determined to be notable). I have more references and external links to 3rd party sources about AutoBuy. I could really use help though. What is the best way to submit the new references? Should I start a new draft page and add the sources / references? Thank you so much in advance for your help.Crystalhartwell (talk) 20:57, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Request on 04:58:18, 8 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Thomasmurrell


Hi Chrissy

I have edited the article based on your feedback.

There is one reference that I want feedback on.

It is a private directory of artists where you need to logon.

I assume this is not ok to reference?

I await your feedback.

Tom

Thomasmurrell (talk) 04:58, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Thomasmurrell, it really depends on what sort of content is in this private directory. If it's her personal webpage or a record of her works, it's not really great for notability purposes. If it's actual, in-depth coverage about her, then it should be acceptable. Either way, if it is in a private directory you should include a quote from the page. In {{cite web}} this is done by adding a |quote= parameter (see WP:REFB for more information). Primefac (talk) 13:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

What did I do wrong?

Dear Chris,

I don't understand why this section was entirely removed. I actually made sure to properly cite every single assertion by referring to reliable sources. What is wrong? Why has it been removed?

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Awards and Accomplishments

− Thanks to the growing popularity of My Stealthy Freedom, the movement’s founder, Masih Alinejad, has received a number of prestigious awards. In 2015, she was given the prestigious Geneva Summit Award for “giving a voice to the voiceless and stirring the conscience of humanity to support the struggle of Iranian women for basic human rights, freedom and equality.”[1] The Geneva Summit is sponsored by a coalition of 25 human rights NGOs from around the world. This annual conference “builds on the success and momentum of the previous gatherings, which have been widely acclaimed in the international human rights community”[2]. Amongst the sponsors is also the Human Rights Foundation, which organizes the famous Oslo Freedom Forum.[3]


− Masih Alinejad has also been amongst the selected female activists invited by the Women in the World Summit held in New York and widely covered by New York Times.[4]. Alinejad was invited alongside many other influential women including Meryl Streep, First Lady of Afghanistan Rula Ghani, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde, Diane von Furstenberg, University of Cambridge Professor Mary Beard OBE, actor, writer and producer Mindy Kaling, United Nations World Food Programme Executive Director Ertharin Cousin, Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards, photojournalist and author Lynsey Addario, journalist Tom Friedman, Savannah Guthrie, New America Foundation President Anne-Marie Slaughter, Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security Executive Director Melanne Verveer.[5]


− In March 2017, Alinejad was officially invited by the Swedish Liberal Party Conference, where she highlighted the importance of freedom of choice for women’s attire and criticized the acquiescence of foreign female MPs to wear the compulsory veil.[6]In November 2017, Alinejad was awarded the Freethinker Prize 2017 for challenging the state-prescribed thinking in Iran.[7] Alinejad dedicated her award to Shahnaz Akmali, whose son, Mostafa, was killed during the height of post-electoral demonstrations against 2009’s rigged elections. Ms. Akmali was sentenced to one of year imprisonment while also receiving a two-year ban from social media for campaigning to find the truth about her son's death. Ms. Alinejad has vowed to publicize her case until she is released. Masih shared the award with a Turkish journalist and painter, Zehra Dogan, who was imprisoned for five months for her reporting.[8] The award in 2015 was shared between Ensaf Haidar, Raif Badawi and Waleed Abulkhair, who were sentenced to be lashed and imprisoned for their human rights activities in Saudi Arabia.[9]

− −

My Stealthy Freedom's collaboration with international organizations

− In October 2017, UN Speical Rapporteur Asma Jahangir, said she was "concerned about the continuous repression of women’s rights activists, including smear campaigns against women opposing the compulsory dress code.[10] Special Rapporteur Jahangir also insisted that “laws imposing dress codes on women should be reviewed, and the Government should respect the right of anyone to privacy and ensure that security forces refrain from acting as moral guardians of the citizens." In particular, Ms. Jahangir condemned the smear campaign against Masih Alinejad and fake news reporting of her rape.[11] My Stealthy Freedom’s coverage of young people being lashed for attending mixed-gender parties has been raised by Amnesty International as well, which wrote the following in a recent report: “women who’ve been lashed for consuming alcohol and attending mixed-gender parties that were raided by Iran’s morality police” as was also reported by My Stealthy Freedom’s Masih Alinejad”.[12]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Realworld123 (talkcontribs) 19:31, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Realworld123, it has nothing to do with the references and everything to do with the tone. Things like Thanks to the growing popularity, a number of prestigious awards and [she] has vowed to publicize her case are unduly promotional and don't need all of the FLOWERY language. Primefac (talk) 13:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

References

Reason For Declined Article

Hello Chrissymad

I see that you declined the article for Lamont Sincere but didn't leave a comment. Would you be kind to tell me the reason why. Thank you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lamont_Sincere — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilywlk (talkcontribs) 19:37, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Emilywlk (talk)

Emilywlk, I'll leave Chrissymad to comment more on the matter, but the main decline reason was for a lack of notability. If you look in the red box at the top of the draft you'll see the note regarding why notability is important and how an editor can demonstrate it. Primefac (talk) 19:41, 8 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Primefac From the last submission before this one I was told that and I quote "Article looks promising and looks almost ready to be accepted; however, more substantial coverage is needed at the moment. The references in the article are too short; perhaps an interview or a music review could be added to the article" Narutolovehinata5

Emilywlk (talk

As I said, Chrissymad will be able to tell you more. I was mostly just mentioning the fact that there was a reason given. Primefac (talk) 20:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Ok Primefac. Thank you for your help

Emilywlk (talk —Preceding undated comment added 20:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Emilywlk I'm not sure why the other decliner said that an interview would help as the primary issue here is that there isn't much in the way of significant independent coverage - most of what is included are quick blurbs from mostly non-RS sites, lacking in any depth. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:00, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Oops!

I don't think User:Username made an Articles for Creation submission...[5] --Guy Macon (talk) 06:09, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Guy Macon It's automated through the AFCH tool. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:38, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Guy Macon, drop the gorram stick. This is the only draft where this happens, and I've explained to you multiple times why it's happening. Primefac (talk) 12:49, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
The answer is "No", and asking me multiple times will not change the answer.
It is the responsibility of the editor using an automated tool to ensure that the results of the tool do not disrupt Wikipedia, and the edit that I referenced above broke a redirect.
The ideal solution would be to fix the tool so that it doesn't send Articles for Creation submission notices to accounts that do not exist.
The second-beast solution would be for editors who use the tool to preview the output before saving.
A possible workaround to hide the real problem would be to protect the redirect. But telling me not to notify editors when they break a redirect because you think that a broken tool is something we simply have to accept is not a solution, and I refuse to do it.
So you can stop asking or file a case at ANI. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Guy Macon, that's not a broken redirect. Anything after #REDIRECT Article title is ignored, because the site sees that code and goes to the redirect target.
In other words, there is no disruption (point 2)
preview the output before saving - what does that even mean? How am I supposed to know that Username or Flaggertybart actually exist or not? There's no sign telling me that a user talk I'm editing exists, and since it's being done entirely by a script on a different page entirely it's not like we can check.
And finally, going back to your original point, nothing got broken, so there's nothing for us to do. Primefac (talk) 14:11, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
I was not aware that notices did not break the the redirect. If you still want me to not notify users when they send an Articles for Creation submission notice that does not reach the person who submitted the article, I will stop. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:10, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Najaf Lakzaee

Isn't the equivalent Farsi article enough as a reference? Mshastchi (talk) 15:33, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Mshastchi Wikipedia cannot be used as a source for itself... CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:34, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
I have seen many articles referencing to other languages (e.g. Apostrophes (talk show)). Yet I will add some references. Mshastchi (talk) 15:38, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
References added. Mshastchi (talk) 16:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

19:07:09, 10 November 2017 review of submission by Alistairdavidson



Chrissymad

In terms of notability, Agiloft has won numerous third party awards, which I added in the first section. Did you get a chance to look at them.

````Alistair DavidsonAlistairdavidson (talk) 19:07, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey Chrissymad,

I was wondering what specifically you were looking for in terms of references.

Thanks!

--Directox11 (talk) 16:53, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Directox11, per the Golden Rule, references should be reliable, independent of the subject, and talk about them in detail. This means that his own website and the companies he works for, being PRIMARY sources, are discouraged, and unreliable sources such as IMDb and blogs should not be used. As an additional note, since you are writing about a living person, you will need to make sure that you are adding your references after the sentence/paragraph they support. See WP:REFB Section 3.1 for more information. Primefac (talk) 16:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)


Okay. Thanks a lot. I will remove unreliable sources and attempt to add more sources such as the festival websites and news sources.

--Directox11 (talk) 17:03, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


I've now added 7 new sources, 6 film festival websites and an article.

--Directox11 (talk) 17:10, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

None of that is significant coverage about him. Brief mentions are fine, but they do not demonstrate notability. Primefac (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Directox11 You need to have coverage - not listings from festival websites. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:11, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Is there anything specific you are looking for? --Directox11 (talk) 17:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Essentially, there are three main types of reference:
  1. Unreliable sources: these are things like blogs, forums, Facebook, IMDb, etc., that are either user-generated or of questionable reliability. If some guy with an opinion writes something on the internet, it's generally not acceptable.
  2. PRIMARY sources: these are sources that are directly connected to the subject. Often this is the subject's own website, but interviews also fall into this category. They are discouraged, mainly because it is the subject talking about themselves and they could be lying (so it's easier to just not use the information).
  3. Independent reliable sources. These are articles from newspapers, magazines, and reputable websites (such as Mixmag). These references are what Wikipedia is built on - good sources of information and a place where someone can potentially learn more about a subject. There are two types of reliable source
  1. Name drops/passing mentions: these are sources that do little more than mention the subject or give their name in a list (such as the Top 100 Widget Makers). Since they are reliable sources, they can be used to verify the facts on the page, but don't actually demonstrate notability.
  2. In-depth sources: references that talk about the subject from a reliable source show that someone has "taken note" of the subject. If there is no in-depth coverage of a subject, they fail the Golden Rule and generally are not given a Wikipedia entry.

You have a lot of primary sources and a lot of name drops, but you have almost no good in-depth sources. You must get some for this draft to be even borderline acceptable. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


I've now added a news article.

--Directox11 (talk) 17:57, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


What else is neccesary?

--Directox11 (talk) 18:53, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Directox11 as Primefac and myself have explained, subjects need to have significant in-depth coverage. Mentions or listings are not satisfactory to establish notability. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:55, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


I added a news source that goes fairly in-depth. --Directox11 (talk) 18:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Directox11 Which source would that be? All I see are primary sources/listings. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

The last article. --Directox11 (talk) 19:00, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Directox11 A high school paper is not adequate coverage. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:01, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


I was interviewed by the Catalina Film Festival and AAHSFF, and many of my photos are on shutterstock or other stock photo websites of me at these festivals. Would any of these help? Thank you for the clarification.

--Directox11 (talk) 19:24, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Directox11 No, as none of it is independent coverage and photos are not useful in determining notability. Additionally please see Wikipedia:Autobiography. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

22:07:33, 10 November 2017 review of submission by Ryuhuioo



I need help to make sure my page does get approved — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryuhuioo (talkcontribs) 22:07, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Reverted changes to the GRIB article

Hi,

Could you kindly clarify why you reverted the version of the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRIB before my contribution? The library I mentioned is indeed a GRIB decoder, you can check it out for yourself from the link I had provided. Thanks.

Regards, Spidru (talk) 12:32, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

22:48:25, 10 November 2017 review of submission by Shanita1


Can I use radio interviews as a source? I am new to writing and I'm trying to gain clarity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanita1 (talkcontribs) 22:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Shanita1, interviews are PRIMARY sources, so they do not demonstrate notability but can be used for some things: mainly uncontroversial things like birthdays and where someone was born. Primefac (talk) 15:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

About Beyoncé and the Media

Hello.

I did an edit about claims from the media saying Beyoncé is part of the Illuminati.

First of all, it has citations like The Sun and Huffington Post (reliable sources).

I don't really think it's vandalism much. It isn't ridiculous. I said there are claims from the media about it.

Thank you Ashland. Ashlandsimpson (talk) 13:39, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Ashlandsimpson, you quoted two tabloid magazines (HuffPo didn't write the original article, they just republished it). Thus, it is nowhere near considered "reliable" or "credible" and it was rightly reverted. Primefac (talk) 15:18, 11 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

05:23:37, 12 November 2017 review of submission by Banyanct



Chirssymad,

What reference you need. I couldnt link google maps to the draft to show the lake extent, below are the news sources for lake http://www.vikatan.com/news/chennai-rains/106892-a-spot-report-from-nanmangalam-which-is-famous-for-its-biggest-lake.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banyanct (talkcontribs) 05:23, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Banyanct, the issue is that you've provided a large number of facts about the lake, but have not included any reliable sources such as the one you just linked here. The verifiability policy means that when someone is reading through a page they should be able to verify the information by following the reference(s) given. See WP:REFB, Section 3.1, for more information about adding references to the body of the text. Primefac (talk) 15:08, 12 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

09:52:47, 12 November 2017 review of submission by 86.160.249.58


I have added two references following an initial review when it was stated that there were no references in place. I have viewed other similar organisations which have exactly the same number and type of references that been published e.g. Leicester Road FC. Can you suggest why the discrepancy. I'm quite happy to add more but would seek advice on what type as they are limited.

86.160.249.58 (talk) 09:52, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

The issue is that you've provided a large number of facts about the club, but have not included any reliable sources that really go into depth about the club. The verifiability policy means that when someone is reading through a page they should be able to verify the information by following the reference(s) given. See WP:REFB, Section 3.1, for more information about adding references to the body of the text. Primefac (talk) 15:11, 12 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

10:14:00, 12 November 2017 review of submission by 122.116.75.66




Dear Editors,

Thank you for taking the time to review the submission for Hsinchu County American School.

Please explain why the following schools are accepted by Wikipedia:

For the following schools: Where is the significant independent coverage from sources listed on the Wikipedia page? Where are the published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject?

Case 1: Hsinchu International School: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hsinchu_International_School

The reference links in their Wikipedia page are broken: (view them yourself) http://www.amcham.com.tw/content/view/2728/ http://www.hdis.hc.edu.tw/about_his/recent_news/files/11215fd2471c030607f511518c94a7d7-84.html http://hdis.hc.edu.tw/files/aa7b09756efc205cd9f00ff0dad6db66-125.html


Case 2: Pacific American School: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_American_School

The reference is the school's own website. How is it a reliable, secondary source that is independent of the subject? http://pacificamerican.org/


Why is the Hsinchu County American School Wikipedia page submission rejected when the above schools Wikipedia pages were accepted?

Please explain how those schools meet Wikipedia's criteria for publishing, so Hsinchu County American School can make the appropriate changes. Hsinchu County American School has provided two independent sources and references from the media. The two schools accepted by Wikipedia have not.

Thank you, Hsinchu County American School — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.116.75.66 (talkcontribs)

(talk page stalker) He appears to be logged out of his account User:Iain.Letourneau. Galobtter (talk) 10:29, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Iain.Letourneau, I think you're pretty close. The issue is that Schools have to meet the notability criteria for organizations, meaning that there needs to be significant coverage from multiple sources. The information you have now is good, but I think another source or two would definitely help. Also, I removed a fair amount of copyrighted material. Please make sure everything you add to Wikipedia is written in your own words.
As a minor note, the existence of one bad page (or a good one) does not mean we should automatically accept similar pages. Every page is judged on its own merits, and often times the rules and guidelines will change after a page is created. There are millions of articles on Wikipedia, and only a few thousand active editors, so poor/bad pages should be either improved or deleted. Primefac (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

12:40:39, 13 November 2017 review of submission by Erwin Lackner


Hi Chrissymad. I would like to ask for your help and suggestions on how I can improve my article. Which parts are unacceptable? What can I do to ensure that it meets the guidelines and policies of Wikipedia?

Erwin Lackner (talk) 12:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

12:53:04, 13 November 2017 review of submission by Abmnn



Dear Chrissymad,

thanks for reviewing my article on Nimble Commander last week. As you encouraged, I have made changes to the article in order to increase its notability.

In preparation to writing this article, I have read through Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Under Inclusion, it says that a computer program can usually be presumed to be notable if "It is discussed in reliable sources as significant in its particular field [...]" Of the four sources I have referenced, two are well-known Websites/Journals in the Mac software domain that each have their own Wikipedia articles. The third is written by the author of the golden-standard file manager. The fourth is from a well-known tech blog. I have read all sources carefully and summarized them objectively.

I have also read carefully through the Wikipedia articles of similar file managers for macOS:

I believe that the current draft of my article at least meets the notability standards in these articles. If you have the time, could you have another look at the article? I would highly appreciate your opinion as an experienced reviewer. Thanks!

-abmnn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abmnn (talkcontribs) 12:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Ghalib bin ali reversions

You are unfairly dictating the page "Ghalib bin Ali"! if you want to revert pages, you have to justify why. This is very inconsiderate of you. You need to explain so people stop "annoying" you. This is Wikipedia where everyone is allowed to contribute. If you are taking edits as a direct insult to you personally, then by all means, stop being an administrator. I say that because every edit I make gets reverted, whether it is a valid edit or not. You do not seem to "suggest" changes as you have written but rather delete them. I hope you can be more open to explaining why you are reverting edits and more open in helping other editors understand how to improve their edits, if that's a concern to you. However, justifying reverts by saying "enough already" does not really say much. I hope we can solve this issue here by talking directly to you. by iteemh 11/13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:62:4D31:E189:F057:CE5A:229:A2DC (talk) 08:57, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

(Iteemh (talk) 14:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC))

13 November 2017‎ Reverted "IMDEA Software Institute"

Hi, Chrissymad.

Could you tell me why did you revert IMDEA Software Institute? Why do you think my change should not be there?

If you think some of the parts may need to be rewritten, or do you think it needs more references...?

Thank you,

Johnny.cespedes (talk) 14:46, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

ISP Inalan

Dear Chrissymad, can you explain what exactly need to be changed in text. All information is truth and not advertisement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Inalan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djen1973 (talkcontribs) 14:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

15:03:06, 13 November 2017 review of submission by Bliek



Hello, the two main sources I'm using for this entry are Mark Miller's Companion to Jazz in Canada (Mark has written numerous books on jazz and was the jazz columnist for the Globe and Mail for 25 years) and the Encyclopedia of Music in Canada (now part of Historica Canada). I can't think of anything more authoritative or reliable than these two sources. Please advise.

Bliek (talk) 15:03, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Education noticeboard#Issues with Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Georgia Southern University/Modern Latin America (Fall 2017). --Cameron11598 (Talk) 18:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Request for hints to improve sysdig article draft

Hello, Chrissymad,

After some improvements looking for new (and I thought nice) references, it was requested to review them. Could you explain me some concrete examples so I can improve the article? Here it is the Draft:Sysdig. Thank you in advance.

Figarocorso (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:03, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

10:58:33, 14 November 2017 review of submission by Elena.griguol

Dear Chrissymad thanks for reviewing my page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:IUPAC_Postgraduate_Summer_School_on_Green_Chemistry. This was the second review and the page was declined by you with the same motivations given by the previous reviewer: that the article reads like an advertisement and need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Actually, I tried to improve it following the indications given by the first reviewer and also carefully reading the suggestions given in wikipedia: I rewrote and cut several part of the text trying to use a more neutral language and point of view, I also added several reliable sources not connected to the organizer of the Summer School, taken by relevant University sites or publishers. This is my first page and probably I need some help from experienced reviewers to make it a wiki page. Please I would be very grateful to you if you could give me some more concrete suggestions on how to improve the text. It doesn't want to be an advertisement but to inform about the topic. Thanks for your help. Elena Elena.griguol (talk) 10:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Elen.griguol: Do any of the sources other than the IUPAC website talk about the summer school? They seem to talk about green chemistry in general. Notability seems a far bigger problem here. We need multiple sources of independant indepth coverage about it.Galobtter (talk) 12:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Page Deletion

Chrissymad,

Thank you for you inputs about Kornelija Slunjski page. I'd be happy to adjust the wording if you point out which parts of the article you find promotional.

Also, photo in the box was removed for copright issues but I own the photo so it's confusing for my as in why has it been deleted?

TheGalaxyMan (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

17:15:57, 14 November 2017 review of submission by Nathanmcginty


Ok. First draft I can see why it was flagged.

Second one - not so much.

"Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject"

So, on every level, this entry satisfies the Wikipedia requirements stated in the online guide above


  1. Is not a "mention" - A "mention" does not take up the entire headline of a news article, ie: "US move for mobile app platform developer"
  2. Published - Yes - published in print and not just online. In the Dundee Courier - oh wait - here's a Wikipedia article on that - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Courier_(Dundee)
  3. Reliable - Dundee Courier - did we mention the Wikipedia page for it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Courier_(Dundee)
  4. Secondary sources independent of the subject - Well, according to the Wikipedia article, The Courier is published by DC Thompson and company in some form or another since 1801.

What exactly is the problem?

Nathanmcginty (talk) 17:15, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Nathanmcginty, the issue is that the Courier article is the only one that goes into any detail about the company. The Scotsman article doesn't even mention Kumulos, and the Gartner page is just the name in a list. You'll need more references to demonstrate notability. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 14 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
Nathanmcginty And to add to what my favorite tps said, the Courier article is almost entirely an interview and pretty run of the mill even so.

Request on 21:05:49, 14 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ilovepitts



Ilovepitts (talk) 21:05, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


YOUR REJECTION OF MY SARA JAY DRAFT


I am at a loss to understand Crissy... Sara Jay is now in the Hall of Fame for AVN. That is the highest award you can get in the adult business. The references are from AVN and XBIZ which are the industry standards. The award qualifies per this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Pornographic_actors_and_models. The previous rejection was done by an editor.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ktr101 who has since been banned. Can you clarify how someone who is in the HALL OF FAME does not qualify? Thanks Ilovepitts (talk) 21:05, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Ilovepitts Not a single reference is independent - they're all primary or not RS and simply making the hall of fame doesn't mean she necessarily warrants an article. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 23:07, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Request on 13:10:36, 15 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Lclark


Hi Chrissymad,

Thanks for be so quick with your review. Could you please recommend which bits of the page Draft:Cristina Sánchez-Andrade I should remove or change to be able to pass the Draft test?

(Lclark (talk) 13:10, 15 November 2017 (UTC))

Lclark (talk) 13:10, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Freedom National Insurance Services

Hi Chrissymad. Would you mind sending back this draft back to my sandbox so that I can work on the references a little bit more. I really appreciate your cooperation here for the newbee I am. Thank you. Max-is-max (talk)

Looks like it has already been recreated by the OP (with the original already deleted). Primefac (talk) 16:58, 15 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

15:02:20, 15 November 2017 review of submission by Eboyd42


Hi there, It appears that in order for the Football Power Index page to be created I need to provide additional sources that are not from the source of the idea (ESPN). Are you looking for other views of FPI, comments/criticisms of FPI, or something else? I want to provide as much detail as I can, but there is not much information on the definition of FPI that is outside of ESPN. I am happy to provide any coverage needed, just need a little clarity.

Thanks so much! Evan (eboyd42) Eboyd42 (talk) 15:02, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Please let me know why my article was deleted? what improvements can be done so that it is accepted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayantarana (talkcontribs) 11:15, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Institute for Research on Public Policy, reverted edits

Hello,

You reverted the latest edits done on the IRPP page. These edits were done to reflect the latest publicly available information about the organization and the recent changes to the organization's research program and products. The older version contained errors and information no longer accurate. Please leave the new edits as is. You can even go on the IRPP website to verify.

Thank you

SC

Shirley Cardenas Please review our WP:COI and paid editing policy before continuing to edit. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:50, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I have reviewed your WP:COI and paid editing policy and have added a disclosure to my main user page. Is this sufficient? The edits reflect the latest publically available information. The previous version contains many errors and is outdated. Kindly do not revert the page back. Thank you.

Request on 08:22:15, 17 November 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by TheresaHeep


Hello Chrissymad,

thank you very much for reviewing my article about Achim Wambach (review date: 10 November 2017)!

Unfortunaltey the article has not been accepted. Therefore, I have a view questions because I would like to improve my submission. You told me, that the references are not quite right yes. Would you mind letting me know me why they are not right yet? I used respective sources for every statement about Achim Wambach, like e.g. recognized newspapers, webpages of government authorities and well known organizations. And I am not quite sure what else to do now.

Thank you very much for your help!

Kind regards, Theresa

TheresaHeep (talk) 08:22, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018

So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

Thank you for patrolling new pages! Thanks for helping out with the backlog. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 04:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

18:09:04, 22 November 2017 review of submission by IsaNew


Hi Chrissymad, Thank you for reviewing this article. Unfortunately, I don't understand why you think that "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources." I had read the guidelines for referencing thoroughly before submitting the article and cited 7 print media sources (magazines). Why don't you consider these reliable? Or what would I need to change? Thank you in advance for your help, IsaNew (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: VMix

Hello Chrissymad, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of VMix, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: not substantially identical to previously deleted version. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. —Kusma (t·c) 20:02, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

17:43, 23 November 2017 Review submission by M.Jovellanos

Hi Chrissymad,

As you can see, I'm following all Wikipedia recommendations on the article about Peñalara (software) - which I have added into the discussion. Let's discuss and see what else I can do to make this article worthy of Wikipedia!

(and please feel free to check my editing history in case you want proof that I've been around for 8 years) M.Jovellanos (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

16:10:26, 24 November 2017 review of submission by Abmnn


Hi Chrissimad,

thanks for reviewing my article on Nimble Commander. You have rejected it for notability reasons. Nimble Commander is discussed as significant in its particular field (file managers for macOS) in reliable sources that I used in my draft:

The first two references in the "Reception" section (Softpedia and MacTech) are a well-known tech-website and a journal in the macOS software domain. They are also referenced by other Wikipedia articles on file managers for macOS (e.g. fman, CRAX Commander). The third reference is from a well-known tech-blog (lifehacker.ru). I now added a fourth reference by the author of the golden-standard file manager (Total Commander).

As you suggested, I modified the article (added paragraph about features and a reference) to increase its notability and resubmitted it for review. Could you please tell my a bit more detailed why you came to your conclusion and what I can do to make it better? Thanks!

Abmnn (talk) 16:10, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

16:32:47, 24 November 2017 review of submission by OliveTree



Dear Chrissymad, Can you please provide pointers about why the references and sources provided weren't sufficient? Looking at many sites online I thought that there was a quite robust range. I'd appreciate your input! Many thanks OliveTreeOliveTree (talk) 16:32, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

SPI clerk trainee

Hi Chrissymad. After discussing this with the functionaries, I'm happy to say you've been accepted as an SPI clerk trainee. Your training will be handled cooperatively by GeneralizationsAreBad, Ivanvector, and myself. KrakatoaKatie may pop in at times to provide perspective from a more experienced CheckUser.

In a moment, I'll be creating a subpage in your userspace at User:Chrissymad/Clerking with a preliminary task. Please feel free to handle it when you have time; I understand it's a holiday. ~ Rob13Talk 14:24, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

We're really glad to have you on board, and look forward to helping you learn the ropes (mixed metaphors, much?) GABgab 15:46, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
GeneralizationsAreBad & BU Rob13 Thanks! I look forward to working with everyone and I'll work on the template/clerking questions today and tomorrow! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:29, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Computer died over the weekend, so limited access to WP but working on stuff now! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:29, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

IndiaIsTheBest (talk) 17:52, 27 November 2017 (UTC) Why did you revert my edits when i was correct???

The page had the articles that said Bharwads are Nandvanshi. But the book that was linked never mentioned a single "Nandvanshi" word in it. All it had was unrelated other information about Bharwad caste and not Nandvanshi.

Provide better source to if you want promote your castes. Wikipedia is based on resources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndiaIsTheBest (talkcontribs) 17:52, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


ToolBox Project

Please provide the deleted content so I can improve it and comply with Wikipedia guidelines. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ToolBox_Project&action=edit

Stevepiercy (talk) 22:05, 27 November 2017 (UTC)Stevepiercy

Stevepiercy I am not an administrator, so you'll have to ask the person who deleted it. Sorry. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:25, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Just a tip - if you find a course attendee has written the outline of an article, but it looks borderline WP:CSD#A3, they've probably started it and been called away by their instructor to do something else, changed their mind about what they want to write, or accidentally put the article in mainspace instead of draftspace. All sorts of reasons. However, they generally do write about topics that are notable (or at least have a high probability of surviving an AfD) so it really is best to assume good faith where possible. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

None of the criteria listed in WP:DIRECTORY apply to the two entries that you deleted from the table, and is not a justification for removing specific items from a given list, but rather a justification for deleting an entire list. It is also unclear how the two items that you elected to remove are less individually notable than the other items listed. SDelete is used regularly by people working on Windows systems all the time. Royce (talk) 18:46, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Royce Please also see WP:WTAF. The articles don't exist and they are primary links, so no coverage or indication they meet encyclopedic criteria. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:46, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Generally speaking redlinked (i.e. non-notable) items should not be listed in "lists of" articles (or in "notable alumni" sections). I agree with Chrissymad's removal in this instance. Primefac (talk) 18:53, 29 November 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
(lightbulb). Totally didn't notice their article links. Concur. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Royce (talk) 19:05, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

About David Yoo

Hi Chrissymad,
I have edited that article, making me WP:INVOLVED. Given the article's longevity and that Mr Yoo's books are mentioned as good reads on websites like Goodreads, I think a WP:AFD discussion would be better than a speedy deletion.
What are your thoughts about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 11:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

AIV Accuracy (beta)

So, beta tool - still SUPER buggy, but it thinks you've made 330 AIV reports, with 311 being blocked. That's approximately 94.24% accuracy! SQLQuery me! 06:34, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Draft review

Hello could you maybe take another look at my draft? I've tried my best to improve it with reliable sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maengmum_Pimnitchakun_Bumrungkit

Your draft contains no valid sources, they are all primary/unreliable. Please see WP:sources. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Article Deletion

My article was deleted from my sandbox, yet it is for a University assignment. Is there any way to get my content back? That would be a huge help considering I had the assignment completed and now it is completely gone. Jpatte49 (talk) 16:14, 2 December 2017 (UTC)jpatte49Jpatte49 (talk) 16:14, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Coukd not parse

User:Nowglobal/sandbox. can you help me understand. My eyes bounced off. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

21:21:09, 6 December 2017 review of submission by Bahil01


Hello. I am writing to you regarding a page that I submitted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sarah_Megan_Thomas You left a comment - 'This needs more independent reliable sources featuring in-depth coverage as opposed to passing mentions and interviews.' The article was denied publication. My question was that I cited IMDb as a reference. Is that not sufficient? Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2353338/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm If you think that I have more information in my Wikipedia draft than what the IMDb page cites, I can delete that information. This is my first page and any help will greatly be appreciated. Bahil01 (talk) 21:21, 6 December 2017 (UTC)bahil01

Speedy deletion declined: Simon Amine

Hello Chrissymad. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Simon Amine, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a blatant hoax, appears to be real person: https://sports-961.com/teamwork-makes-the-dream-work-for-ndu/. Thank you. Jujutacular (talk) 19:08, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

As a note, I just checked and the creator blanked the page. It has thus been G7'd. Primefac (talk) 22:34, 9 December 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)