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Draft:Vladimír Geršl

You Commented my article: "This is blatantly promotional."

Well it is not. I Am not paid by the person, nor I know that person on some friend level. I am just interested in Czech developers and this one did not have an article on Wikipedia even though his career is quite important in our country.

Every biography is a promotion of the person it writes about, so I don't know what you want from me? Petr.michael (talk) 11:16, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

That was NOT my comment but I do agree with it. You say "Every biography is a promotion of the person it writes about" no that is absolutely incorrect, we only report (good and bad) content that has been written by reliable sources, promotion has no part to play in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 11:21, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok, what I wrote there is my summary of things I read about Vladimír Geršl. It is not some copy paste promotion material. You will not find it anywhere else written like this. So I don't know what to do about the article so it will meet your criteria. Do I have to "find some dirt" on him, so it would not be so positive?

By the way .. when we only report as you wrote. We still do a promotion of the person by it. If you wouldn't report on something it will be forgotten by time. So I think what I wrote isn't "absolutely incorrect" , it is just another view on the same thing. Petr.michael (talk) 14:42, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Glen_Melville_Reservoir

Hello,

I am currently teaching a group of students on how to edit Wikipedia. One of them wrote this article which you reviewed to mainspace. Another wrote this article but it got drafted. Both articles are from here which we used as a working list.

I have now made some input into the draft and resubmitted. I was wondering if you can take a look/review.

Cheers! OWilsn (talk) 14:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

editing of page mushtaq ahmad veeri

this page is still under process. there are many references which i can mention on time. i need time to complete this page. Toperthebest (talk) 05:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft

Hello, I have 3 Draft pages that need a review, I hope you will review it, have a nice day. Ahmedadeljaff (talk) 19:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Yesterday Today Tomorrow

Hello, in case you weren't already aware, Draft:Yesterday Today Tomorrow is meant to be proposed changes to the existing article Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow, by an editor who has disclosed their COI at their talk page. Storchy (talk) 17:42, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I have tagged the draft for deletion as a copyright violation of https://www.yttassociation.org/ytt-approach they would be better off requesting edits on the article talk page AFC is not required. Theroadislong (talk) 17:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, the COI editor is trying (if a bit grudgingly) to comply, but has struggled a bit with how to propose COI edits: see their user talk page for the thread.

I've removed what I think is all of the copyrighted text from that draft, though the rest of it looks like it was copied from someplace that I haven't found yet. Did you want to withdraw the speedy tag for now, since we haven't got a URL for the rest? Storchy (talk) 17:49, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done thanks. Theroadislong (talk) 17:51, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Inviation to comment on AfD

Hello, as you are a very experienced editor and very fair, I would like to ask you to comment on AfD for Andrew Aziz and comment on Wikipedia:AUTHOR and Wikipedia:Notability (books).

Thanks. Bestwaytoedit (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Not sure why you have asked me to comment on this/ I tend to agree one of the other users who said "Non-notable, a stock broker doing his job". Theroadislong (talk) 17:01, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry that was a mistake here. I wanted to ask for an opposing editor to comment (against what I am voting, not votestacking) somehow messed up here. My apologies but thanks for the feedback. Bestwaytoedit (talk) 17:01, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Fixed issues with Jackson Premium Outlets

Hi @Theroadislong, I fixed the issues that you brought to my attention. The article is framed neutrally, I removed any sources that didn't mention the outlets and/or Simon Property Group, and I removed the reference to Disney's Animal Kingdom (related to the Six Flags being the second biggest theme park). Would you please review again? Freeholdman12 (talk) 18:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Noah Zuhdi

Hello, I see that you made an edit on my draft about Noah Zuhdi, but I cannot tell where the edit was. It has been about seven weeks since my review submission and then your subsequent edit a day later. I didn't know if you were the one to review it or not. I am just afraid of the status of my draft, especially since the last review went sideways with feedback about an article needing to be mainly about my subject when all articles were mainly about the subject and had his name in the article title/headline. If you can provide any advice on my draft or are able to review it, I'd appreciate it. Thank you for your time and consideration. Przybylop (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

I did some minor editing for style per WP:MOS here [1] Sports are not really my speciality so I will leave it for another reviewer. Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I appreciate it. Przybylop (talk) 20:55, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

AFC "Emirates Draw"

Hello. Thank you for your feedback on my article. I saw that you rejected the draft Draft:Emirates Draw by stating that "It read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Article need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources" So the draft already got references from reliable, independent sources like Gulf News [1] and Khaleej Times [2] and I have added more references from independent, reliable, published sources like Al-Bayan (newspaper) [3], Al-Ittihad (Emirati newspaper) [4]. Please review. There are plenty of references available but I fear that adding more references would make it WP:REFBOMB because it is a small article. Thanks again. Fifthapril (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Amber Vittoria Draft

Hi! The reason for rejection for the Draft:Amber Vittoria page is unclear. Could you elaborate? Thanks! Anvz (talk) 23:26, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

I declined your draft (not rejected) because the subject did not appear to be notable with the comment not clear how they pass WP:NARTIST? It has since =been declined again. Theroadislong (talk) 06:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Jreg

Can you help me make the Jreg article LilbigJ (talk) 12:47, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

You will first need to find multiple reliable sources that cover them in depth and with significant detail, YouTube is not a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 12:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

My submission got declined

Hello,

Just following up on my article submission about guitarist Jeremy Green:

I am a little confused at the article being declined, the reason given seems to be along the lines of no "expert" support of the artist's work. However this musician has worked directly with players who are considered legends on their instruments, resumes that include some of the greatest of all time in their genres. He also just completed a full album with one of the recognized world's best drummers Keith Carlock - (Steely Dan, Sting, John Mayer). My question is: don't these musicians represent the views of "experts"? Certainly their involvement in Jeremy's work is an 'expert' endorsement. These musicians are without question experts in their field, they put their name on his work and promoted it on their own promotion social media channels.

I am not arguing, I am just confused. Mbgirl13 (talk) 17:47, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

The reason was "references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people)." Notability cannot be inherited, just because he works with notable musicians doesn't mean that he is notable. Please aslo note that Wikipedia and YouTube are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Request on 09:05:26, 13 September 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Iamstevezapp

• Iamstevezapp (talk · contribs)
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Wikipedia approvers can’t seem to make up their mind about a page in submitting. First it was you need to cite sources, ok done. Second it was you need better sources, ok done. Then told it reads like an Ad not encyclopedia, ok so I fixed that I beefed up content and sources with articles from Billboard.com Guitarworld.com AP.net NPR Live Session Allmusic.com, and now I’m told it’s not enough? Help me understand why if I added quality sources that why did you decide it’s not enough just now rather than prior to the additions?

Iamstevezapp (talk) 09:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

It is not clear how Draft:*repeat repeat passes the criteria at WP:NBAND can you suggest how they might? Spotify and radio set lists are not reliable sources by the way.

Comments on Inga Vesper

Thanks so much for your comments, I've taken out the Amazon and Goodreads sources. Ingabinga (talk) 14:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

ANI thread

An editor opened a thread about you at ANI: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Continued harassment, stalking, and interference by an editor based on professional disclosure. Please note that I am really a messenger at this point, I have no opinion on the merits of the thread. Ymblanter (talk) 16:15, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

My Beatles Worldwide Hits page

Hi - I am new to Wiki and don't know how this works but I see my suggested page has the comment that it is already covered by the Beatles Discography page. I don't think it is because mine is a list of all the hits the Beatles wrote and recorded - the Discography page is only a partial list of their own hits and does not include the hits they wrote. Mine has 300 hits on it. The Discography page has way less - nearer 50. But I don't know whether discussion is something Wiki does? DoctorStevieG (talk) 17:19, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok, I have moved it to Draft:List of the worldwide hits of The Beatles and removed the decline. Theroadislong (talk) 17:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

help with photo credit

Can you explain how to do the photographer credit correctly in this page (top image)? The photographer must be credited somewhere. I appreciate your help

Thank you.

Tamar Ovaryian (talk) 18:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

The photographer is credited on the commons page where they uploaded it, assuming that they did indeed upload it, if you uploaded it then it is a copyright violation if you are not them. Theroadislong (talk) 18:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Spelljammer

I wanted to check to see if once an article has started the AfC process, if it has to stay in that process. You declined a submission for Draft:Spelljammer: Adventures in Space; another editor flagged it to me as I've created a bunch of D&D book articles. I rebuilt it from scratch. If this was an article I had started myself, I would be confident in moving it into mainspace without the AfC process. But since it was started by another editor & declined in AfC, I wasn't sure if I could just move it. Thanks! Sariel Xilo (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Already accepted, good work, you can always move articles from draft if you are confident they will pass WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 06:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Not understood

Hi, I didnt get what are you trying to say. I have already added so many references and citiations. And I am adding mre and more. Can you please make this clear. GuptaHarshita (talk) 15:59, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

GuptaHarshita your draft Draft:Ravi Mehrotra has three references, none of which mention the topic? Theroadislong (talk) 16:09, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, So I have to give ravi mehrotra website where all the data is there about him? GuptaHarshita (talk) 16:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

That is a primary source so cannot be used to establish notability. Theroadislong (talk) 16:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Battl Victory Records

Hi Theroadislong,

i see you declined the page Battl Victory Records and also deleted Battl Victory Records from "List of RIAA Members". But you can find Battl Victory Records here in the list: [2]https://www.riaa.com/about-riaa/riaa-members/ So i think Battl Victory Records is eligible to be in the list.

In Draft:Battl Victory Records i think you can find also some references they show that Battl Victory Records is eligible to be in Wikipedia. As Example the References by Kreuzlinger Nachrichten, German National Library or membership in the IFPI, the most important organization of the music industry. These articles can also all be found via Google, albeit country-specific. But if you have any other tips for me, I'll gladly accept them. :)

Best regards 62.167.114.160 (talk) 17:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

I suggest that you first disclose your conflict of interest and log in. Theroadislong (talk) 17:41, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

I have no conflict of interest or what do you mean? All the information you can find during a bit of research. I am not paid or hired or whatever if you mean that. :)

I am also not sure if it is required to have an account? if so why? I can create one if it's required, for sure :) 62.167.114.160 (talk) 17:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

It's not required to have an account, however it's recommended. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

You appear to have a conflict of interest because your only edits so far have been to promote Battl Victory Records. Theroadislong (talk) 18:05, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. I'd have to create one first, but since I'm working on this project with a work partner (because we like it and yes we are new to wikipedia), I figured one account would suffice. We work on it for fun and we came across this label once and just wondered why it hasn't appeared on Wikipedia yet.

As you probably know, working on multiple projects and doing research is not easy. So let's finish this project first. There is, of course, more on the to-do list 62.167.114.160 (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm…”I'm working on this project with a work partner” does nothing to persuade me that you are not conflicted in editing here. Theroadislong (talk) 18:48, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion with work partner i mean Alicia.Lizzo97. We doing together research and we separated the workflow. :)

She did more reading on how to build the full site and I did more in-depth research. But we both only do this on the side to university. 62.167.114.160 (talk) 06:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

About AFC audit

Hello, sir, I have added qualified reference materials according to the reason of your last review. Would you please review them sometime? thank you. Lovely little star (talk) 01:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Everybody.World

Thanks, I was in two minds on this one and about to seek a second opinion! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 07:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

wiki.musiksammler.de

It is processed by users, but in advance you are subjected to an exam. This page works just like Wikipedia. All LC codes can also be checked at the GVL (if you refer to this feature). This is done at https://labelrecherche.gvl.de/. DayforDay (talk) 07:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it works just like Wikipedia (user edited) and Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference either. Theroadislong (talk) 07:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok got it. Thanks. DayforDay (talk) 08:02, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Park Systems

Honestly I think Park Systems should go to AfD. I removed one statement cited to PR Newswire, leaving a single (broken) citation. My Google search turns up nothing that's reliable or independent. Add to that the fact that it's been primarily edited by UPE accounts. What do you think? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:10, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

I was coming to the same conclusion after a quick search turned up nothing much that wasn't primary. Theroadislong (talk) 15:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Glad to know I'm not alone in thinking that; I've sent it to AfD. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:13, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

draft about "Alessio Zanelli" rejection

Wikipedia is full of articles about authors whose references are pretty poor: I've come across several ones which, undeniably, are poorer than the one I submitted, without too much effort in finding such names. I can report examples if need be. Needless to say, deciding if an author is worth a Wikipedia article is a delicate matter, but it is subjective above all: there can be no comprehensive, absolute criteria. Just a tiny percentage of authors can have "top" credits, like Nobel Laureates, Poet Laureates, and winners of important prizes (e.g., the Pulitzer Prize). Over 90% of the authors covered by Wikipedia don't fall in such a league, nonetheless they have their article, because they are published authors, I mean, published in notable, respected journals, quite regularly, and have authored one or more "real" books. So, if an author has been widely published internationally and has authored several books with real publishers (not publishing services or subsidized publishers), for me they're worth a Wikipedia article (as what I said at the beginning proves). Moreover, literary magazines publications are more relevant than books themselves, in most cases: there's no "cheating" about that! World Literature Today, for instance, won't publish any author whose work has little or no value, and that certainly is a renowned, independent source! I just included three remarkable publications: World Literature Today, Quadrant and Acumen, because I thought that three are enough (Wikipedia is not a list of publications, websites, etc.), being top literary journals in their respective countries (and covered by Wikipedia itself). By the way, Zanelli has been published also in three of the most renowned South African literary journals: New Contrast (South African Literary Journal), New Coin and Carapace, a few times in each of them. All the sources I cited, to be honest, are actually independent from the subject: the Library of Congress, for example, would never store and list self-published or subsidized books, and that's another authoritative source (the most authoritative library in the English language, I'd say). As to actual "references", i.e. coverage in a variety of secondary, independent sources, again that's not the case for most literary authors: you can find news about them and their work in literary magazines and on literary websites, but hardly in general media, unless they have won the National Poetry Competition, or the T.S. Eliot Prize, or have sold tens of thousands of books (which happens, maybe, to one out of a thousand published poets, including most of those covered by Wikipedia). So, really, I'd like to understand better what kind of references would actually "work", seeing that, for instance, the one by The Poetry Society (the most important literary organization in Britain, along with the Royal Society of Literature) is not considered one of those! Maybe I'm wrong, but my impression is that if the article had been created by a credited Wikipedia editor, it would have been OK, but it has been submitted by a simple poetry reader with very little expertise in the creation of articles on Wikipedia, trying to do it in the best and most accurate way regardless. Anyhow, as I said, I'd be most grateful if someone could further explain why the references I've found are not good, or not enough. Where has a literary author to have been published and covered if not in some of the most prestigious literary journals (like World Literature Today) or by the most important literary organizations (like The poetry Society of the United Kingdom)? Thanks to anybody who will take the trouble to reply. 82.48.49.63 (talk) 17:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

See other poor quality articles exist, interviews are not reliable sources, author profiles and book listings are not independent and are not significant coverage. Theroadislong (talk) 18:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

draft salar bil

Hello, all the items on the page have been edited salar bil . Please check the page and confirm it. Thanks.

Draft:Salar Bil Ocastan mishel (talk) 19:00, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Marinus (Rens) van der Sluijs

Thank you for your initial feedback. I have now resubmitted after adding numerous secondary sources to demonstrate 'coverage'. Thank you. David

David Highfield (talk) 10:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

About your comment

Hello @Theroadislong

Are you suggesting that these 3 parts should be omitted? Please let me know. Nativefreelancer (talk) 14:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, though the draft is unlikely to be accepted with or without them. Theroadislong (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi dear

I play with my alter ego my another archetypal to bring awareness Salarbil (talk) 23:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi

It’s in my articles like Diane Pernet one if 500 fashion global shaping Salarbil (talk) 23:37, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi

I beg you to accept my article or delte it.0 Salarbil (talk) 23:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Your draft has not been submitted for review, but you need to show how you are notable for it to be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 06:58, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi

I just put insta links to prove that those 3 bof members are following me and verify accounts are saying it as well Salarbil (talk) 23:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

None of that is of interest to Wikipedia I'm afraid. This is an encyclopaedia not social media. Theroadislong (talk) 07:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Tony Saenz Y La Rosa de Oro draft

I need help on the draft on a living person. In the conjunto and tejano music industry our pioneers , trailblazers are not recognized. It is important to keep the music culture alive and well. There are many artist that have been inducted into the Only Tejano ROOTS Hall of Fame Museum recognized by the state of Texas. However, there's so little coverage or literature on their contributions . I am asking for assistance to get this article and many others in regards of our pioneers into the Wikipedia. Maryjanesegura19 (talk) 07:08, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

See WP:NSINGER for the criteria they need to pass, inline citations would help too, rather than dumping sources at the end, reviewers need to see where the content has come from. Theroadislong (talk) 07:19, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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(t · c) buidhe 21:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

About your comment

What do you mean not notable? Its an anime show of a game. WillsEdtior777 (talk) 12:01, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes...and? merely existing doesn't mean it's notable enough for an article. Theroadislong (talk) 12:02, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Its as notable as something like Cyberpunk: Edgerunners. Its an original anime based on the game with its own premise,production,reception,commercial performance. etc

Not sure how it can be more notable than this. WillsEdtior777 (talk) 12:08, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

See other stuff exists please also note that Twitter is not a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 12:12, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm not saying because Cyberpunk exists then this one should exist. I'm just saying that It is notable to exist because it is its own thing. It's also not something small as Nier merchandise or whatever. Its like lord of rings book article vs lord of rings movies or games etc.

The twitter is from the company itself. But that can be removed since there are multiple sources for the same thing. WillsEdtior777 (talk) 12:15, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

"because it is its own thing" is not a criteria for notability I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I will add to it and get back to you. Thanks. WillsEdtior777 (talk) 05:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Wish to understand the issue

Hello @Theroadislong,

Thank you for your comments on my 1st draft. I just want to understand the issue in the article. I have tried to keep it simple and informative with factual information available on web. There is a wikipedia page for its subsidiary "Ella Bache". Please suggest how can I get approval for my first draft. Dipak Suresh Soni (talk) 13:51, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Dipak Suresh Soni Five of the sources are to their own website, we have very little interest in what that says, sources need to be independent, reliable and not press releases. 14:38, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

As for Ella Baché please see other poor quality articles exist, it is blatant promotion and should probably be deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 14:43, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu

Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to schools. Thank you. BangJan1999 12:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:William Bishop (performing artist)

Hey,

Many thanks for your comments on the article. As far as I can see, and without wishing to contradict you, the topic does fulfil at least two of the criteria for a musician (two or more albums on a major label and rotation on national radio). I will make this more explicit in future.

Kind Regards and take good care,

J.H. (Is that a reference to The Hollies in your username? Fantastic band) JohnEricHiggs (talk) 19:07, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok feel free to re-submit...he ain't heavy, he's my brother. Theroadislong (talk) 10:29, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

I hope all is well.

Just to clarify, I have no professional association (I receive no money from) the subject or anyone associated with, the subject of the article. I’m a therapist by profession.

Kind Regards,

J.H. JohnEricHiggs (talk) 08:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

I have addressed the conflict of interest (there is no conflict of interest) if I need do anything further please inform me. Without wishing to contradict your comments, the references have been checked by other editors, and I myself find them all to refer to the content directly.

Kind Regards,

J.H. JohnEricHiggs (talk) 10:29, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

The references have been checked, yes, there are currently 13 citations which fail to support the content and you have NOT commented here Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard yet?

TheMathCompany

Hi - THank you for your feedback and I regret not reading the advise sooner. I am en employee of TheMathCompany but I am not being compensated for the edits. Please let me know the best way to proceed.

Peeyush Peeyush Dubey (talk) 15:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

As an employee you are absolutely deemed to be a paid editor and MUST make the required disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 15:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2022

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm EggRoll97. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed or created, William Bishop (performing artist), and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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EggRoll97 ^(talk) 16:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback nonetheless!

I appreciate your contribution! Tensieal (talk) 21:10, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Assim al-Hakeem

Let me know why this draft declined. It is just translation of a page which already in wikipedia https://sq.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assim_el-Hakim 117.208.19.206 (talk) 08:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

That it exists on another language Wikipedia is irrelevant, there are stricter guidelines for inclusion here. It's not clear what makes Assim bin Lukman al-Hakim notable? YouTube and interviews are not reliable independent sources either. Theroadislong (talk) 09:02, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

New article about the Kamerlingh Onnes Prize - problem solved

In 2017 I tried to create a new article about the Kamerlingh Onnes Prize. I had never tried to start a new page before, and probably made some technical mistakes, and the attempt bounced. You left a message on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dvandermarel

On 4 july 2022 the user Suslindisambiguator (who's identity I don't know) created the article for the Kamerlingh Onnes prize, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamerlingh_Onnes_Prize. It looks good. I made a minor edit 2 days ago.

This message is just to inform you that everything's fine with this article. If ever I want to create an article from scratch, I'll start by reading the manual really very carefully. Dvandermarel (talk) 16:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Geometric Lullaby declined for lack of independent sources

Hello! I noticed my article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Geometric_Lullaby) was recently declined for not including independent sources. I was curious as to what you were looking for in terms of an independent source, as this internet label has gained only a bit of notoriety over the few years it has been in operation. I know Wikipedia initially flagged the Facebook link I included (which is purely a link to their page, not meant to be taken as a source), but I assume this is also in regards to a YouTube interview and a few instances of the same website being used as sources.

If you could help me understand what I'd need to adjust in a bit more detail, I would really appreciate it. Thank you! - Brian

. BearPuns (talk) 22:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:The Sumyeramikoto six dynasties theory

Good catch on the conclusion section. I never made it that far down because of the previous comments and the large portions unsourced were enough reason to decline. Slywriter (talk) 00:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

It's certainly a long read! Theroadislong (talk) 06:24, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Need some help

Good day! Mr. Theroadislong , I really need help. I've already write such message in a talk page, but I'm not sure that it was a correct page for this. For the first time in my life I am writing a new article, before that I only edited it, but I feel the strength to bring an article about good people to the vastness of Wikipedia. I am a student, but due to the war in my country, education has deteriorated a bit, in terms of lack of information in my direction. We have an IT company in our city, which in my, and indeed in all universities in the city, conducts free lectures and courses for those who are interested in the technical direction. It also helped our university technically. Since universities do not give good information about development, this was a chance for me to fulfill my dream of starting to program. I haven’t become a developer yet, and I don’t think it will happen soon, but this company helps people like me from start to finish, and even in practice there is an opportunity to try to do something. I am inspired by such actions, because for the first time I see that an IT company is somehow culturally and educationally connected with the society and I am proud that there is such a thing even in my hometown. But it was quite difficult to write an article, since all and information about them is mainly in English, and this is not my native language. Due to the fact that I have not yet succeeded in writing articles, I turn to you for help and tips. My article is in the wikipedia incubator "incubator: bandapixels". Can u please help me with some kind of advice: what are the next steps after the article is published in the incubator and what should I correct in the article. I would be very grateful for any help! V.rova (talk) 07:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

See WP:YFA for help, I'm afraid I have no idea what "wikipedia incubator "incubator: bandapixels" is? Theroadislong (talk) 07:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! "Wiki incubator - is designed to help new authors write their first articles and get familiar with Wikipedia's core principles. Articles created by beginners are placed here for their subsequent improvement and refinement, in which experienced participants help them. On the example of these articles, a beginner is taught the basic skills of working on Wikipedia" - this was said as an explanation in Wikipedia. If you have some free time, would you be so kind to check my last edited article in my page (it is my article named BandaPixels)? V.rova (talk) 07:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Your edit history does not show any of these edits so you are editing something OFF Wikipedia and I cannot help you sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 08:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay, got it. Anyway I am thankful for your help! V.rova (talk) 08:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Main_Page is a separate project, you will need to ask for help there. Theroadislong (talk) 08:08, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I checked this page and I guess you're right, hope I will find there the answer. Thanks a lot to you! V.rova (talk) 08:33, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

CAREL Industries' draft review final outcome

Hi @Theroadislong, thanks a lot for your Draft:Carel Industries’ review.

Based on your feedback, I went through the draft again, trying to identify all the passages that seem to compromise the article's neutrality: you can see them highlighted in yellow in the proposal below. I thought it would be a good idea to ask you for a second opinion, since you’ve already spent some time reviewing the content.

Let me know what do you think and thank you in advance for your help :) Elena Gobbi 2 (talk) 08:37, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Carel Industries' draft: new text proposal

CAREL INDUSTRIES

File:Logo CAREL grigio.jpg
Company type	Società per azioni
Traded as	BIT: CRLI FTSE MIB component
Industry	Electronics
Founded	1973 (1973) in Brugine, Italy
Founders	Luigi Rossi Luciani, Luigi Nalini, Rocco Cilenti, Giancarlo Galvani
Headquarters	Brugine, Padua, Italy
Key people	Luigi Rossi Luciani (Chairman) Francesco Nalini (CEO)
Products	Programmable controllers Parametric controllers Humidifiers Remote management and monitoring systems
Revenue	€420.4 million (2021)
Website	https://www.carel.com/

CAREL INDUSTRIES is an Italian multinational company that designs, manufactures, and markets hardware and software for managing air conditioning, refrigeration, humidification, and evaporative cooling systems. Founded in 1973 in the province of Padua, as of 2022 it operates 9 production sites and employs over 1,700 people. In 2018, it was listed on the Milan Stock Exchange in the FTSE Italia STAR and FTSE Italia Small Cap indices.

History

CAREL's first plant

CAREL miprosent

CAREL was founded in 1973 in the province of Padua as a business-to-business company, as C.AR.EL., Costruzioni ARmadi ELettrici. CAREL began operating as a supplier for a manufacturer of air conditioning units for computing centres (Hiross), producing its electrotechnical component.

CAREL's first plant

In 1981, CAREL designed one of the first microprocessor-based controllers in Europe for the air-conditioning sector, which was launched on the market the following year under the name Miprosent. This was a parametric model, already pre-programmed in the factory and suitable for mass production and large volumes.

Subsequently, a programmable control was developed based on a new software programming language,which was easily customisable in terms of both its design and algorithm.

In the late 1990s, the refrigeration district, which would later become one of the largest in the world, began to develop around CAREL.

Within few years, CAREL expanded first on the domestic market and then on the European market, initially in the air conditioning and humidification sectors and soon afterwards in the refrigeration sector. The production of humidification systems with a significant electromechanical component continued, but investment was mainly concentrated on electronics. International expansion began in the 1990s with the opening of sales branches in France, Great Britain, South America and Germany.

During the 2000s, branches were opened in: China, Australia, USA, Asia, Spain, India, South Africa, Russia and Korea. This period also saw the opening of production sites in the United States,China,Brazil and, in 2015, Croatia, as well as sales offices in Northern Europe, Mexico,the Middle East, Thailand, Poland, Ukraine and Japan. In late 2018, CAREL also began to grow externally and acquired the companies Recuperator, HygroMatik and Enginia,which became part of the Group.

In 2021, it continued its international expansion with the acquisition of CFM Soğutma ve Otomasyon A.Ş, a long-standing distributor and partner in Turkey.

Research and development

CAREL has research laboratories in HVACR applications in Italy, China and the United States. The Padua site is also home to a laboratory dedicated to air humidification systems and evaporative coolers.Every year the company invests around 6% of its consolidated turnover in research and development.

Prizes and awards

CAREL has received prizes and awards both as a company and for its products. At Group level, the Mediobanca Award and the Small & Mid Cap Award received in 2019 for the STAR segment, while China Refrigeration’s Innovation Awards were awarded in recent years to the E2v Z electronic expansion valve, the Hecu motocondensing unit solution and the EmJ modulating ejector.

References

Category:Electronics companies

Yes that's a good start. Theroadislong (talk) 08:58, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Theroadislong:) I have just removed the highlighted passages. In your opinion, is there something else we could improve or delete? Right now, it seems to me that what is left is only factual information. What do you think? Thank you so much for your help again Elena Gobbi 2 (talk) 10:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Request on 13:03:30, 4 October 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Stanisława Maria Pałętka

• Stanisława Maria Pałętka (talk · contribs)
  • User:Stanisława Maria Pałętka/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Stanisława Maria Pałętka (talk) 13:03, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Stanisława Maria Pałętka Do you have a question? Theroadislong (talk) 13:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Declined draft due to independent resources

Hi @Theroadislong - Thank you so much for taking the time to review my new article. Apologies that it does not meet the standards for publication. I saw the note you left educating me that Intuit does not make for an independent source, and I more than understand the thought process.

The source I had hoped would be deemed our independent source is the Fortt Knox interview, as it speaks to the hardships he encountered as he came to America and how/why he is where he is now. If you don't mind, I'd love some feedback as to why this won't work. I'm looking to grow as a Wikipedia editor and am on a mission to make this right (and learn/follow the rules in the process). I appreciate you taking the time to educate me on this process. Catmich2022 (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Catmich2022 Interviews are not independent sources and YouTube is not a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 06:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@Theroadislong - is the youtube link not reliable, even if it is a CNBC interview? I'm okay with it not being an independent source, but is it not valid at all? Catmich2022 (talk) 10:37, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Interviews cannot be used to establish notability, you can use it but it doesn't help the draft get accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 10:56, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

That is good to know, @Theroadislong. Thank you!

I am stuck trying to deceitt for what makes an independent source. I understand the definition; however, I'm referencing articles from Bloomberg, The New York Times, CNBC, etc. To learn, I'd love any advice you'd be willing to share. Please know I'm not trying to hassle you. I read the comments on this page, and I'm confused as you are just doing your job. I appreciate that and am merely trying to grow my craft and skillset.

I really appreciate any help you can provide. Catmich2022 (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello , would you mind assisting me with my article?

Hello, please reply to me if you have the time. Orfiofficial (talk) 18:52, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Sam Byrk appears to be about a non notable person in Wikipedia terms, it's not clear how they would pass WP:NSINGER, so there is little I can do to help. Theroadislong (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Peter Cameron

I've seen that you've declined my submission because "about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". But there's an article in Wikipedia on a novel written by Peter Cameron (Someday This Pain Will Be Useful to You), and a movie directed by James Ivory and starring Anthony Hopkins is based on one of his novels (The City of Your Final Destination). Lucretius (talk) 10:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

That is irrelevant all biographies MUST be sourced there are zero exceptions! See WP:BLP. and WP:YFA. Theroadislong (talk) 11:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok. What would be a reliable source in that respect? Thanks. Lucretius (talk) 11:02, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

See WP:RS but no interviews, blogs, IMDb or YouTube. Theroadislong (talk) 12:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

HELP with Tommy Byars Article

Would you please help me with this article? I do not know what I am doing wrong. I have sourced everything and tried to make it easily findable, but obviously my sources are not sufficient enough. Are newspapers not reliable? Can someone just takeover this article for me since I don't know what I am doing? I have provided enough information to have it published, just need someone to clean it up? Cjmodica (talk) 16:34, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Article submission help

Hello! My recent article has be declined: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mangia_(restaurant) Can you, please, help to understand the reasons, so I can resubmit it? 47.16.76.130 (talk) 12:58, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Please remember to log in and also declare any conflict of interest on your user page I am not happy helping undisclosed paid editing. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello! I am sorry for not logging in.

The article is not paid. I was just trying to create it by myself.

I thought it would be a good idea to put an info about the restaurant that operates already more than 40 years in the middle of Manhattan.

I just tried to eliminate all the advertising information as it was copied from different sources and leave only the core points.

Please, advise what else should be changed so the article will be approved? Ihor tverdomed (talk) 13:24, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

What is your connection to User:Samuel Donaldson then? Theroadislong (talk) 13:29, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I had an idea to place an article in Wikipedia of this place. But I never created one.

This is my real name and real account. I can provide social media or any other information by your request.

So I asked my friend who has an experience in editing articles. He said he had an account for editing articles. I didn't pay him anything.

I don't know how to prove it, but it's the truth. I am not trying to spam the Wiki. I really like reading it and I think it's a good source of knowledge.

I am convinced that this restaurant is notable as it is already for 40 years in business. Ihor tverdomed (talk) 13:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I tried to exclude all the "promotion" and "advertisement" information.

Please, understand this is my first try. And maybe I did some mistakes, I understand.

I really spend tons of time reading the articles and even donated for Wikipedia and I didn't have the intention to spam it.

The information in the article is totally true. Ihor tverdomed (talk) 13:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok another reviewer will look at it in time. Theroadislong (talk) 13:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

In the article about Mangia you placed a note "not clear what makes them notable".

Can it be stories like this:

1. The restaurant which received 8.12 million in funding during COVID: https://ny.eater.com/2021/7/13/22574960/restaurant-revitalization-fund-awards-nyc-momofuku-masa-milos
2. A man sued Mangia for anti-Semitic harassment and then lost the court: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-loses-900g-award-failing-convince-judge-article-1.1773523
3. Mangia is one of the largest New York takeout operations preparing more than 1500 sandwiches a day: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/21/dining/the-hottest-lunch-in-new-york-the-sandwich.html
4. Mangia had a famous location at Wall Street which then closed: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/22/dining/food-stuff.html

Also, as a catering company Mangia has a significant client pull: from Lewis Hamilton birthday party to MOSCHINO and Louis Vuitton events. I just didn't include it cause I didn't find the references, but you can check it on the Mangia's instagram page.

And, in general, the locations are in Manhattan for over 40 years. Millions of people visit it every year. Keeping the restaurant in such an environment already makes it notable by itself.

Please, advise. Ihor tverdomed (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

The New York Times looks promising but I can't read it in the Uk, having "famous" clients confers zero notability. Theroadislong (talk) 16:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Made a visual for reading, maybe that can help.

https://ibb.co/bXz9qKz

https://ibb.co/W0CHkN8

https://ibb.co/ydd58gS Ihor tverdomed (talk) 16:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I can give an article gift, so anyone can read it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/21/dining/food-stuff-off-the-menu.html?unlocked_article_code=jVYfktUtWOf31N5wvkwdYD5jRUnOodt__G3fMqKJ8UVNeqLBqXN60xuzoPH7fojV0AvYjwg1KJ3WkKzuLB1wevSzXmjx5IDY4TLTwI2Vv1gqY2-gxaJMzUyZUl-817O2MupLS7jEKCPWYKf6aq6_-KUaaLnyiblCPmWy-pM4NWYmSp8QhbD9uqyYNwKyVloKBUN3SE3mgI3OekD1-_ebgiVv4csSe84Yuj4v0EfOtuRbTXtzVCSzl6N_dI-IC4EWwuWwSnUqLetyY7MC1HpzbIIrcJLSosvi9abibDyIqFSUBhrCeBMiKFsKwSA1SiNje82TEKkK6gHtBMdAuALTFyE&smid=share-url

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/21/dining/the-hottest-lunch-in-new-york-the-sandwich.html?unlocked_article_code=5szPX3GdHuaLMJfSfQ7ARaX5-VwCbKDcXriaYZqcPLXoLttKWk5j15hEMeN0I--G2zhzowL9iuaVmgvALlEApYqZe_kE73MGvVYoqfQi9GCRftmxcfGoOFegDDWUZaCQLKFQc79lKdIUMQcrLlv1OqYab03evskJsdWl_DgyM31HJIG469uIT3lKnTtmZ22M3gCCh4uBjOmiBrCJAEqEnCyU3E_XdfsvD6ztegLXugvWQD4k_Fm8XxviBECbcs2ml47bL2M_23u4M-IGOCVXGH3pvwU32lRFe26nvalKu2v0-3kO6FegFSynxTLRhrqefkph6cYg7oDcUnhmQRaOpLlOLLwpumLoc1YTDFmOwE2hbt2z&smid=share-url Ihor tverdomed (talk) 16:52, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

H. R. Robinson and I thank you!

Hi Theroadislong, I want to thank you for your approval of the Henry R. Robinson (publisher) article. It's probably just in a days work, but I'm glad you could get to it so fast. I built it to support some captions I modified for the Andrew Jackson article. I had originally tossed up the original stub, intending to get back to it in a couple of hours, but it got tossed (fairly) into draft before I could finish my work. I was disappointed as it left the Jackson article with red links, but cleaned up and resubmitted. Now, thanks to your quick approval, we're set, though I may putz with the article more!

The main reason for this note here is that I was delighted when I saw it was you who moved the article back. Once more it brought back memories of a few years back when dealing with Oldperson's dust up of Cecily Jordan Farrar, which had me redoing the whole article with your appreciated support. Its good to see you as active as always and I hope you are doing well! Wtfiv (talk) 16:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

It's an absolute pleasure accepting well written drafts it doesn't happen very often! Theroadislong (talk) 17:33, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I need help figuring out what is wrong with my article

I only have one "good source" (two more are blogs/messageboards) and one is primary. I really want to let people know that this website exists though. Is there anything I can do? Unijorse (talk) 23:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid that wanting to let people know that this website exists is not a valid reason for inclusion, see Wikipedia:Notability (web) for what is required. I think you will struggle to find the required sources. Theroadislong (talk) 07:45, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

oh :(

thanks anyway Unijorse (talk) 21:24, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Todd Douglas Axtell page for re-review

Hello! I re-submitted a page for your review. I made some significant improvements that I hope will allow for publication. Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Todd_Douglas_Axtell JenniferRose77 (talk) 23:52, 5 October 2022 (UTC)