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Your comments are welcome to this list. Cannibaloki 18:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey! Take a look now. Cannibaloki 23:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Cannibaloki 00:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Your comments were resolved. (Chimaira discog - FLC; of course...) Cannibaloki 16:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ! Cannibaloki 20:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: HBK's PR

Hmm, where would I start? Who do you recommend? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, good people to ask. But, somehow I got a feeling they will not be up for it, some of 'em.. But what the heck, its always good to ask. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Would it be desperate if I leave everyone the same message on their talkpages? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, cause I thought it be a little desperate from me if I left everyone the same message. Hey, so would it be cool if I asked your input on that "list" that I've sorta completed, not sure if I'm done or not? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Um, the number of the episode I copied from here as well as the plot, but expanding it a little bit. Also, due to the fact that I own the season and watching the episodes and summarizing it from there. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, but I get the feeling something is missing. I basically looked at The Simpsons (season 9) as an example, but I still get the feeling something is missing. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that's true. Maybe I should put the list in my "future to-do list". So, whatever the outcome is for HBK's article, I'm gonna nominate JD'05 to FA. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Is that sarcasm? ;) Do you not think it has a chance? Joke's aside, so WillC left some feedback at HBK's PR and apparently in the article there's no mention of him being Grand Slam Champion, well, in the lead, but not in the article. Should I include it in the article or what? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I will add it and thanks for the feedback. But, in his his book, after he won the European title, someone acknowledge the fact that the had won every title in the company, but, in his WWE.com profile it says that his last title captured was the World Heavyweight title to "complete" the GSC. Now, I'm really lost. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I added it, hope it reads well. Also, I left a comment about adding info. from his PL. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm gonna bother you again; in the Clique's influence section, Shawn lost the Euro title to "Triple H", now, in '97, Triple H went by "Hunter Hurst Hemsley" and often times referred to "Triple H", but how would I write a sentence, so that the reader doesn't get confused with the two names? Hope you understand what I mean. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Well, if this is brought up and other suggestions are mentioned, I'll change it to mentioned suggestion. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Responded to your comments. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
'Nother respond. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Have responded. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Added book sources. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Yup, added book sources and replaced "moniker" ---> "ring names". --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

FAC for No Mercy (2005)

Despite your words of advice, I have gone and nominated No Mercy (2005) for FA. I can understand why a PR would have been beneficial, but that seemed really unnecessary to me. Anyway, I thought I would just let you know that I have nominated it for FA. Cheers, --LAX 20:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought CompleteWWE.com was not a reliable source? --LAX 00:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
It's used in SummerSlam, and somehow it passed with that used to source the match times. --LAX 00:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for signing my guestbook

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for signing my guestbook. LAAFan

RE:Moves

Done. Nikki311 03:40, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SRX,

I understand that you're a professional featured lists reviewer. I was wondering if you could help me out with promoting an article. I've been working on Mark of the Year, and I'm trying to get it up to featured list status. What work is required to make it a featured list? Thanks in advance, --Superflewis (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SRX, Thanks for the help! I've re-written the prose, added pics, and added a history section. I've also removed all the external links and made them references instead. Is the article ready to become a features list canditate? --Superflewis (talk) 04:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi SRX, I've opened a peer review on the article. Thanks for the advice. . --Superflewis (talk) 13:46, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:

Actually, I was thinking of adding some more, such as maybe a section for each pay-per-view, summarizing the events. iMatthew (talk) 12:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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Editing help

How'd you get the citation button your editor, again? I saw you mention it on the PW page but forgot to do it before it was archived. Tony2Times (talk) 22:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. Tony2Times (talk) 00:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I think I've covered all of your points, could you check to see if you agree.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your positive review.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Question

Hey, how are you doing? I don't know why and I don't know what I'm thinking but I've decided to get TNA Bound for Glory to FL status and I thought to ask you what needs to be done to get it to FA standards? It has only had three events and TNA doesn't really have a history section on the event. Also would it be okay to use the 2008 logo because TNA keeps changing it every year?--WillC 03:25, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, first off I knew it was too short, I just wanted to know what would be the main points I would need to address in the article. I plan on finishing it today in a subpage where I've been working on it and hopefully your opinion will change then.--WillC 21:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Remember, you're talking to the guy who can't make an article that is smaller than 40 kilobytes. I'll get the article big enough somehow.--WillC 21:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

SummerSlam (2003)

It has been spoken, it is in three part, total time about 15 minutes. Let me know what you think. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

It works fine for me, but I am currently on a computer with no sound. I enjoyed doing it, and it proves to those sayers of nay that the new style is not some kind of incomprehensible gobbledegook. If anyone questions The New Style tm, then send them to the spoken SummerSlam (2003). Darrenhusted (talk) 09:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I've made ammendments per your comments on the FLC, I'd appreciate your input again if you would. REZTER TALK ø 14:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review

Hey SRX, is there any chance that you can comment on the peer review for Armageddon (2006). I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! iMatthew (talk) 19:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, and I was actually trying to think of a way to expand the article to add more information and make it meet the FL criteria. (Maybe a list of results from all of the PPV's) iMatthew (talk) 21:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm about to send you an email. If what I just saw is true this is huge news about WP:PW! SteelersFan94 22:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Im going to get a Admin's oppinion on this also. SteelersFan94 22:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Then why is WWE New Year's Revolution being taken to FL?--WillC 22:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Well okay, but I'll still expand it to make it look better.--WillC 23:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Responded to your concerns. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Nice. Yeah, I'll leave some comments. Hey, instead of "scratching", how 'bout if I "hit" you with a "baseball bat"? :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Alright, just checkin'. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Home run!!!! This will be your 2nd FA. ;) In return, what's the report in JD'05? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's awesome. But, I know you don't need my help on that. :) Wouldn't it be cool if I can get Survivor Series '04 to FA? ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

That's if I ever get to it. :) 20? Thinking ahead of yourself now are we? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
That's true. How's the progress with BB? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
That's somewhat of good progress or take your chance like LAX did with NM. Its sad I don't have that choice. Anyways, after the copy-edit, are you gonna ask that the PR be closed? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I've given up my hopes on getting HBK's article to FA. Tears. I guess, I can fall through some of the PPV's/actors articles I've been working on. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's my one reason: Peripitus said that nowhere in the article was there a feud explained, saying that its written from an in-universe point-of-view and I don't think I have the time to read/add info. about "how" the feuds became "feuds". I would rather not have the article fail because of that one reason. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's true. Here's my case: If I were to nominate the article and that one reason comes up about how the feuds were created and me explaining that if any such thing were to be mentioned, it would bulk up the article, do you think other FA people would agree with that? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually, A-Class wouldn't be so bad. I'll try with that one. :) The June 7 revision looked bad, but the fixes were fixed. The new revision is better than the June one. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Now, I can definitely take my chances with that. Man, you just want FA's don't you? :) Isn't there a limit when nominating FA's? But, NWO looks good, get PR, and see where the FA takes you. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Question: How should the Angle Slam be explained? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Its for JD, should the move be explained or just say "he tried performing the Angle Slam"? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
No, for the finish, Angle tried using the Angle Slam on Booker T, but Booker blocked it and did a small package to win the match. Get what I'm saying? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have it explained, but it doesn't read well ---> "a move in which Angle tried slamming Booker down by spinning him and lifting him to a 90°, into a small package, a pinning maneuver in which the opponent falls backwards while turning, which the opponent hooks the far leg with their legs and the opponent's other leg with their free arm, ending up on top of the opponent, pinning their shoulders against the mat." --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:34, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

You know, I find you very hilarious. :) Alright, will change and will leave comments. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Something like that. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I know, it was already about time for me to archive and I "responded" to the PR for NWO. I need help, if you see here, the PPV revenues in mid-05 were $18.8 million versus $18.5 million, did Unforgiven help WWE's revenue increase or what? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:26, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
December 1, 2005. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
So Unforgiven did help WWE's revenues? If so, I can't subtract 18.8 and 18.5, since it would give me 0.3. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I guess I gotta go with that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Responded. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

New sig. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Love the blue effect. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Although you have not yet participated in a WikiCup, you are receiving this message because I believe it may be something that you might be interested in. Check out the page and sign up if you'd like. I look froward to your response! iMatthew (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Are you really itchy? Or can I wait a couple of days? I'm pretty busy right now, and I have to finish (start) Michaels' review first. iMatthew (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bad Blood Peer Review

Sure, I'll be happy to take a look; just give me a bit. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

...But, if you don't mind, I'll skip this one. I'm up to my eyes in projects, and having recently spent a lot of time on two wrestling articles, helping them to FA, I need a break from the genre. No offence intended, and good luck with the article. Brianboulton (talk) 14:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Whoops, sorry, I forgot. I gave a couple comments, and I'll give you a full list if I find time later. Thanks for the reminder, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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User:K. Annoyomous24/FLC resolved

Now TNA's website isn't like WWE's. They don't have websites for each event or a history of the company or events. So I can't get logo's from them since they never have them up. I did find TNA's logo for TNA Bound for Glory on a website that we use alot. I was wondering what your take on it is? here.--WillC 04:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so the image falls under fair-use and would be alright for the article then? It isn't that old. It is from 2005. They change the logo every year but they aren't very different. I'll upload it when I'm done with the article in my sandbox.--WillC 21:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you please anwser my quwstion I left on iMatthew's page please, also does every wrestler that has a stage name need to have his real name listed next to it? SteelersFan94 00:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

What's the lead? SteelersFan94 00:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
How does the early career section look compared to what it was before I edited it? SteelersFan94 23:32, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Ricki-Lee Coulter discography (FLC)

I believe you requested notification. I feel I have made the necessary changes. Thankyou very much for your comments you have once again expanded both the article and my knowledge. Hpfan9374 (talk) 01:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for your comments, as this is my first attempt at creating a FL. Per your request, I have made the suggested changes and believe the concerns raised have now been addressed. Please let me know what else may need to be done to bring the article up to FL standards. Thanks again! Patriarca12 (talk) 01:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

It sounded like you wanted me to let you know when I'd responded to your comments at the candidacy. PiracyFundsTerrorism (talk) 02:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Signatures help

I see you have an edited signature, but I am confused as to how they work, and the Wikipedia help pages don't help at all. Mind giving me a quick run-through? Is it just tags like <font color=white> etc.? Because I understand that. Andre666 (talk) 05:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

LD

Yeah I saw that. I'm just waiting for you to finish before I take care of the problems. Or do you want to to take care of them now?--WillC 04:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I finished them last night. After I wrote the above message.--WillC 21:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on them.--WillC 23:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Fixed.--WillC 23:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Re'd--WillC 23:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Right back to you.--WillC 00:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I do have a watchlist but this makes it alot faster to know of a reply.--WillC 00:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, SRX. Since leaving feedback it doesn't appear as if you have returned to see the replies left. I'd be grateful if you could return in the next couple of days to offer more comments, or at least whether you feel your concerns have been addressed satisfactorily. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk contribs  email) 06:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi SRX, I am the nominator of the above list. I added a comment however it is not appearing on the main WP:FLC page, why is this? Thanks - Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 15:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

It worked - thanks for your help. - Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 22:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Look man cmon look at it

Cmon man just look at glen jacobs talk archive 1 it's like that what i mean by the attire thing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brothers of destruction (talkcontribs) 21:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

User:K. Annoyomous24/FLC resolved

O.K

O.K yes Sir! Hey how do my recent edit's look (like my last fifty or so) I've tried to stay out of my mainspace what do you think? SteelersFan94 20:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Hey SRX, I know we haven't talked in a while, but I was jsut wondering, could you sign into Yahoo, because I have no-one to talk to (you don't have to). Talk to you later dude. Save Us.Y2J

So, whats been happening SRX, working on any particular articles now? Save Us.Y2J

Yeah I did, and I just sent a message to Alex, and I noticed that you got SS 03 to FA staus, and good luck with NWO 04 and BB 03. Save Us.Y2J

Do you think I am a good editor, because I don't think I am. Save Us.Y2J


Thanks man, I hope we can talk more often. Later dude. I hope your not mad at me. Save Us.Y2J

Armageddon's peer review

If you could, do you think that you could return there and finish commenting on the article? When you finish, I'm going to close the peer review, and then get to the comments as soon as possible. iMatthew (talk) 11:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Trust me, if I have any questions - I'll ask you on here. I'm just a little busy right now. If you chose not to comment further, that's fine. But I'd like to close the two peer reviews tomorrow (Armageddon and List of WWE pay-per-views) as I don't have enough time to pay close enough attention to them. But I will address the concerns whenever I get the chance. iMatthew (talk) 14:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes I have. What other comments are there that I haven't got to? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I know I got all your comments yesterday. Oh, cause I ended up striking them, but I'm a 100% sure I got your comments. See BB's history. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I've worked on Lethal Lockdown a little more. Trying to work it down. I have reasons to not remove a few things. Also you stole my idea. With Armageddon 08 and other ppvs. I started adding the background to Turning Point and Genesis the other day like with what you just did. I guess great minds think a like.--WillC 01:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay. I'm waiting till I have 60 sections to archive it. Because I need 15 more sections in one archive till I'm done with it and then I can start a new one to fill up. Just so I can have it organized. I feel it is close. It is well written and FA reviews haven't found an extreme amount of problems with it. It will probably pass the way it is.--WillC 03:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I get that but do not be like it will not pass. I thought SS was not going to pass nor did I think December to Dismember was either, like you didn't think Lockdown was going with GA. Just do not be like you don't need to mention this and this and this. I've removed alot. I've worked on Cage vs Tomko more as well. It is in the article now.--WillC 03:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've responded. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, for the long response, something came up. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I guess were both even. :) Anything "alarming" with BB? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I have and yeah what's the report with '03 and '04? Also, don't I have to have a certain amount of FL's to review them? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Alright, cool. Also, forgot to tell you, I ended up adding the "emdash" in the BG section for your BB. You left comments for '04, I will get to them. Okay, you've convinced me, I'll begin reviewing FL's and see the way that goes. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Got more comments? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I fixed/completed all of your comments there. Thanks,   jj137 (talk) 03:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I did your next two comments as well.   jj137 (talk) 15:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hey long time =

Yeah sure, sorry about the wait. I'll see if I can get it done in a week or so. -- Oakster  Talk  08:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Aha, my bad! Sorry about that. iMatthew (talk) 13:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

The newsletter problem. iMatthew (talk) 13:54, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you?

Can you add citations to the Simply Priceless page that I'm working on my sandbox

Thanks, if you can —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brothers of destruction (talkcontribs) 18:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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I have responded to your comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Arizona Diamondbacks seasons. When you have the time, could you check and see if your issues have been resolved? Thanks! --Mr.crabby (Talk) 02:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

question

Hey, I've been working on TNA Bound for Glory in a sandbox as you know. Now I'm no where near done, that is for references and I still have more to write about its history but I was wondering what you thought of it so far.--WillC 03:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah I forgot. Here is the link User:Wrestlinglover/TNA Bound for Glory--WillC 03:23, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you got this or not, but would you mind to tell me what you think of TNA Bound for Glory?--WillC 01:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I remember but it has a sourcing tag on it and it is good to take another off of the clean up list. I thought list couldn't be GAs? I can always take all the Bound for Glory articles to GA or better yet FA, then make TNA Bound for Glory a featured topic. If that will work.--WillC 01:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

"Disruptive Edits"

I was trying to remove a comment I made, because not only did I put it in the wrong section, I had forgotten to sign in. --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 06:23, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I am going to take your warning off my talk page so nobody will see it and think I actually did something wrong. --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 22:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

SRX, please get back to me on this! Can you please remove your "warning" from my talk page? --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 15:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

But can YOU remove a warning you put on my talk page, since I explained to you that it was MY OWN comment I was removing? --Smart Mark Greene (talk) 23:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Signatures

I know this may not make sense but can you make a custom signature for me and if you can (and want) you can post it on my talk page --Brothers of destruction —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC).

User:K. Annoyomous24/FLC resolved

Why

Why did Matt leave WP:PW? And is it going to break up or... SteelersFan94 23:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (September 2008)

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I've fixed the problem. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 17:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)