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Please don't try to modify other people's comments again, especially in important discussions like AfD. This edit where you inserted bold Oppose while the user didn't insert it nor asked you to do so is a big mistake. Don't think that's what he meant, generally don't edit people's comment anywhere. Thanks –Ammarpad (talk) 10:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Merry Christmas!

Wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
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Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays

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Please comment on Talk:Manzanar

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New Years new page backlog drive

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don't change my comments

are you even an american? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.255.136.134 (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced and BLP-violating comments will always be removed. Primefac (talk) 18:54, 4 January 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]
@Primefac: Thank's for responding to the IP editor so promptly where I could not  :) Adotchar| reply here 00:53, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:2018

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J-TV: The Global Jewish Channel

Hi,

Last month you left this comment on the page I've been working on.

'References are needed that show the subject's notability, not just that it exists. The only reference not from the subject is about the founder. A lot of the information here remains unsourced. The article should be mostly rewritten to comply with WP:NPOV guidelines about promotional content. In short, there's still a lot of work to be done.'

The issue is that the nature of the page is that the majority of the information is either only available on our own Youtube page or cannot be verified at all because J-TV is a YouTube channel.

How do i work around that? Also, what do you mean by notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SammyNassimi (talk • contribs) 13:54, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll write a full response when I get to my computer in a few hours. Please remmeber to sign your posts on talk pages and discussions with "~~~~". Happy editing, Adotchar| reply here 13:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature

Please be aware that your signature uses deprecated <font> tags, which are causing Obsolete HTML tags lint errors. Your signature is also causing Tidy bug affecting font tags wrapping links.

You are encouraged to change

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to

<sub style="border:2px solid #FF0000;padding:1px;">[[User:Adotchar|<span style="color:#000000;background:#ffffff;">Adotchar</span>]]&#124;[[User talk:Adotchar|<span style="color:#000000;background:#ffffff;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> : Adotchar| reply here

—Anomalocaris (talk) 23:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anomalocaris, Thank you for notifying me of this. I will change it immediately. Happy editing! Adotchar| reply here 23:42, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Changed :) Adotchar| reply here 23:43, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! —Anomalocaris (talk) 23:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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my edit on Office Olympics

I listed the name of Kevin and Oscar's game as hateball because the article previously referred to Toby's game by name and I wanted it to be consistent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.9.183.215 (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Sorry for my error. Adotchar| reply here 18:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Toyota Avanza

do you want the article to look like an advertisement? screw you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.95.101.187 (talk) 04:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC) cocksucker[reply]

Thank you for contacting me about this. The article does look a bit like an advertisement, and please be sure to use edit summaries in the future to avoid confusion. Please be aware that going to someone's talk page and using the language you did is a good way to get blocked if you were a registered user. It's much better to discuss topics civilly, as behind every edit is a person completing it who has the ability to reason and be reasoned with. Thanks, Adotchar| reply here 13:10, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Jane Bonham Carter

Please refrain from reinstating the changes I am making to her Wiki page. I have been authorised by Jane to make the changes. Tim Razzall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timrazzall (talk • contribs) 11:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Timrazzal:. Thank you for your WP:COI admission. No, you cannot remove the controversy section. Judging from your username and edit history, you are affiliated with the subject of the article and therefore your edits to it would be and are influenced by your biases. Please read the note I left on your talk page.Adotchar| reply here 11:52, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AMDON

Hi, I've been working with User:Mean_as_custard as he tagged the page as promotional and I've removed most part of it to make it less promotional entry. Could you help me redo the revert? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nay9a (talk • contribs) 11:31, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contacting me about this. I've undone my revert. Next time, please use edit summaries, as when you remove large amounts of sourced text it can be mistaken for vandalism. Happy editing! Adotchar| reply here 11:35, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Nay9a:. The article will probably be deleted soon per G11. If you want to continue editing it, I recommend you create a draft, or move it to a draft so that you can work on the article. Adotchar| reply here 11:41, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your suggestion and revert. I believe I can't change back to draft once published. I will do that on my next articles. Cheers! Nay9a (talk) 23:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hard to find sources

Hey sorry if my articles are short, it's really hard to find information since google can't find good results anymore, cheers!

@Roundearth:. Okay! Remember, you can always make it in a draft first (like what I moved it to) then, once you find sources, move it to the mainspace. Finding references may be hard, but it is needed to ensure that Wikipedia is as accurate as it can be. Also, please remember to sign your posts with ~~~~. Have a good day, and happy editing! Adotchar| reply here 01:05, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation

Thank You
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De-POV-isation attempt

Dear Vermont, thank you for having checked an article about Izidorius Pocius that I created yesterday. May I ask you what else should be changed in the article so that it does not seem biased, or does it look neutral now? I also tried to work out with the quotation, as apparently there is no information about this personality in English, only in Lithuanian and other language, so the current condition might still be deemed unsatisfactory. My primary goal is to make the POV justly removed. Thank you in advance. -- Wisconsus TALK|things 11:30, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A drink to celebrate your new look!

It's great to see you starting to refine yourself - it's already so much more pleasant to work with you!! -- Thanks, Alfie. talk to me | contribs 17:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing help

Hi, can you please help me with my wiki edit on Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State Care. I need help on the info box on the right hand corner of the page. I am confused as to why the information I wrote in the edit page does not appear when I publish the wiki page. Can you please help me with this. If you find more information on the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State Care it would be helpful if you could contribute to it. Cheers mate Wiki editor from the land of the long white clouds of New Zealand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvfmgnlllj (talk • contribs) 01:35, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on your talk page. Vermont | reply here 02:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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How should I create my company information page ?

Hi,

I want to create my company information page on wikipedia. Is it possible to do it by any certain way ? I recently posted one article 5 Things you should know about DDoS attacks but for some reason it got reject.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hostnextra (talk • contribs) 13:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interesting editing, especially paid, is highly discouraged and in many cases against policy. Your company also does not meet notability guidelines. Please do not create any more "articles" written by yourself, like your draft on 5 things to know about DDOS. Thanks, Vermont | reply here 14:29, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


March 2018

Stop icon with clock
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at David McGimpsey. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
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  • 3RRBLP does not apply to restore a contested BLP edit. That is the exact opposite of how it is supposed to be used. The COI account is arguably the one protected by it as he is making a BLP claim. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:56, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Vermont (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I recognize that I read WP:3RRBLP wrong, and that it does not apply to restoration of content. I recognize that I should have started a conversation on the talk page. I also recognize that I wrongly considered those edits vandalism, where WP:BLPKIND says "Edits like this by subjects should not be treated as vandalism; instead, the subject should be invited to explain their concerns." Through this, I request leniency on this, as I did not mean to edit unconstructively. This edit warring of mine was based off me thinking it fell under WP:3RRBLP, and after I was informed that it was not applicable I did not make any more edits. Vermont | reply here 02:08, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

I’m convinced the user understands the issues here and will be more careful when considering BLP claims in the future. This block has served its purpose and is no longer needed to prevent disruption. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another note to the reviewing admin. I saw this as a user attempting to whitewash well-sourced content from a page which they obviously were either the subject of or have a COI, and due to that I thought it would be an exception to WP:3RR (and fall under WP:3RRBLP), which I was later informed it wasn't. Vermont | reply here 02:29, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your explanation. I get your concerns with COI, but what was (and is) concerning to me is that you were reverting an editor who was essentially appealing to the principles in WP:BLPCRIME, which means it was a valid topic for discussion either on their talk page, the article talk page, or BLPN, regardless of what the ultimate outcome was. It was reliably sourced, so they shouldn't have edit warred either, but they are a new editor who isn't familiar with Wikipedia, and you should have known better. I'm open to unblocking as another admin has soft blocked them for a username perspective, so based on that and your unblock request, I don't think there is much danger of disruption going forward on that article, but I do want to know that you realize the importance of taking BLP claims seriously, even if they are from IPs or new users, and what you might do differently next time. Also, for any other reviewing admin, if Vermont replies and you're satisfied with the answer before I get a chance to see it, feel free to unblock without further consulting me, but I would like a reply from him first. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the mistake I made by not starting a discussion and instead reverting. I should have reviewed the BLP guidelines and policies more thoroughly before reverting, and I can say that in the future I will be much more careful when in such situations. Vermont | reply here 03:29, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Belarus

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Patola (1973 film)

Hello, Vermont. I thought I should notify you that I removed your BLP PROD tag from this page, because it is not a BLP.--Gronk Oz (talk) 13:26, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for catching that. Vermont | reply here 22:13, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nassach (Fils)

Thank you for reviewing my new pages. For Nassach (Fils), you wrote "The only source is Google, which is cited twice". In fact, if you click on both citations, both display a different map: the first citations shows the source, the second one the mouth of the river. Therefore I used two citations instead of one. The problem was obviously, that both citations looked the same without clicking on them. Therefore, I've expanded these citations with the "title" argument now, so that the difference is visible. Thanks for calling my attention to this problem. --Cyfal (talk) 12:20, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyfal: Thank you. Vermont | reply here 12:28, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding YouScience

You said it was "borderline NPOV" on my talk page just recently. Does this mean it was borderline non-neutral in its wording? If so, what did you mean, and how can I reword the article to make it more neutral? Best, Every morning (there's a halo...) 14:52, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I meant that it was borderline non-neutral. Readig it, it sounds promotional, but there aren't any obvious peacock terms that I saw. Vermont | reply here 17:03, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:08:42, 14 February 2018 review of submission by Docteur Alca


Docteur Alca (talk) 18:08, 14 February 2018 (UTC) Hi, I wanted to know how to change the default language of the page i'm trying to publish. You refused it because it was published on english section, and I understand that, but how do I change english to french language ? I mean, i'm french, and i want to publish a french page, not an english one. I don't get it, I don't see any settings to do that. Thx for your answer Doc.Alca[reply]

@Docteur Alca: I do not know how the French Wikipedia's article creation process works, and I do not speak French. Please go to the French Wikipedia and try to find your answer. There is no setting to move a draft from one Wikimedia project to another. Vermont | reply here 19:35, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IBM 1401 undo

Does "Nope" include also External links correction (dead link)?

  • Music inspired by the 1401: Johann Johannsson's "IBM 1401: A User's Manual" - CD / LP

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IBM_1401&type=revision&diff=825810750&oldid=825808542 --89.25.210.104 (talk) 01:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake on my part. I have reverted my edit. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Vermont | reply here 01:06, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Wagner

Hi, I’ve added few additional 3rd party sources to the Mary Wagner (Canada) page, among them from National Post, HuffPost Canada and Gazeta Wyborcza. I've also linked the page to the related pages on Russian, Chech and Polish Wikipedia. Is this ok to remove the Notability Template? Please advice, thanks.GizzyCatBella (talk) 02:35, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I still have doubt. I'll check it tonight when I get to my desk. I'll break it into sections and reword large parts of it. The lead also needs a lot of work Vermont | reply here 12:32, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Battle of Mosul (2016–2017)

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Re: Sarah Irving

Thanks for the heads up. I've added comments to the Sarah Irving talk page to contest the speedy deletion. Let me know if I need to do anything else.

I've replied on the talk page. Vermont | reply here 00:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Minor niggle

Is a revert *ever* a minor edit? As an action in opposition to another editor, and even when obviously justified/a-good-thing/etc., I've never imagined it could be 'minor'. Shenme (talk) 23:31, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Shenme: I never thought of it like that. Huggle seems to tag most of the edits, including reverting large edits, as minor. Is this referring to a specific edit? Vermont | reply here 00:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not really a specific edit, as I was just going through "Recent Changes" manually. Possibly this valid revert, as my attention was drawn to 108.4.137.223 and noticed your cleaning up.
I stubbornly do everything manually, because tools have caused problems in years past. One that I've heard about is exactly that default settings can betray, and I've heard Huggle mentioned. Of course it is also that manual editing *forces* me to go slow, and thus prevents me missing the other things wrong in articles.
Anyway, following the Help:Minor edit link next to "Minor edit" brings one to statements like:
A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.
Given that everything and anything here can be the subject of a dispute, that should disallow reverts immediately. At Things to remember it says
Reverting a page is not likely to be considered minor under most circumstances. When the status of a page is disputed, and particularly if an edit war is brewing, then it is better not to mark any edit as minor. Reverting blatant vandalism is an exception to this rule.
But since 'judgement' is always subject to criticism I just don't even think about characterizing any but the simplest spelling corrections as minor. In the midst of a sudden snit, you don't want your procedures denigrated at the same time as your discernment/lineage/choice-of-birthplace/etc. :) Shenme (talk) 02:03, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Out of process GA nomination of Tenafly, New Jersey

Vermont, according to the GA nomination instructions, since you are not a significant contributor to this article (have you edited it at all?), you need to check with the significant contributors to see whether they feel the article is ready: Nominators who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article on the article talk page prior to a nomination.

I am reverting your nomination of this article for the time being. Once you have done this consultation step on the article talk page—it would be courteous if you specifically pinged such contributors when you've done so—and given at least seven days for responses to come in, you can proceed as appropriate, which could involve addressing issues with the article prior to nominating it. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:57, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Refined Marques

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Refined_Marques'

Hi can you please give some more specific feedback on what you think i can change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wpuser1802 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

February 2018

Information icon Hello, I'm Vermont. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Tracking collar— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Vermont | reply here 23:14, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you serious, huggle? Lol. Vermont | reply here 23:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

I did this to someone the other day, warned the person who's verson I reverted to instead of the person who I reverted. >.> -- Thanks, Alfie. talk to me | contribs 23:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC) [reply]

My first trout :( Vermont | reply here 23:18, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Thanks for all that you do – share the love! Prodego talk 02:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pirapitinga image removed

Please reply on the talk page regarding the rationale for the File:Colossoma-brachypomus.jpg you removed being a depiction of the wrong fish. I see nothing on Commons indicating its not Piaractus brachypomus. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 18:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the deletion, as no rationale was provided to suggest this was the wrong fish. If your going to remove the image please explain why this isn't the right fish. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 23:04, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@HighFlyingFish: I was sure I replied to this earlier, it seems I didn't. I was informed on IRC in the #wikipedia-en-help channel by someone complaining about the incorrect fish being shown there. They could not figure out how to edit, so I did a little bit of checking and saw that the image was titled "Colossoma-brachypomus", and in the article "Piaractus brachypomus". Piaractus brachypomus being a red-bellied Pacu. On the Pacu article, it was referred to as a "Black Pacu". This looked to me to be enough to conclude that it was, in fact, not a red-bellied pacu. Nice username by the way, and happy editing! Vermont | reply here 23:42, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, that's strange. There's no fish called "Colossoma brachypomus". The genus Colossoma has only one species, Colossoma macropomum, the Tambaqui. "Colossoma brachypomus" is an outdated synonym for Piaractus brachypomus which is why the image's title supported this being the right fish to me. But you're right that other articles on this wiki, and other articles on other wikis disagree. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 20:54, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, is it alright for me to copy this discussion onto the article's talk page where other editors can see it? In general it would be good to have it in a more visible place. I'm also going to bring the issue up on the File's talk page and on commons to try to get a consensus. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 22:20, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Vermont | reply here 22:21, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Alright will do. I also opened a discussion at File talk:Colossoma-brachypomus.jpg. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 22:26, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It appears emerging consensus agrees with IRC channel user's reasoning. Therefore I have reverted myself and restored the version without the contested image. --HighFlyingFish (talk) 22:21, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion on eBitcoin wiki page

Hello Vermont, I saw your wiki remarks on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBitcoin wikipage. I feel sad that some purposes have been taken as deletion/promotional content, it was really not the intention. I updated the page, I hope everything is well done now. Could you please check the page and take the deletion note off if you are agree. Thank your very much and have a good day. JRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by JRC21 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh

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eBitcoin article

Hello Vermont, I saw your wiki remarks on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBitcoin wikipage. I feel sad that some purposes have been taken as deletion/promotional content, it was really not the intention. I updated the page, I hope everything is well done now. Could you please check the page and take the deletion note off if you are agree. Thank your very much and have a good day. JRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by JRC21 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 26 February 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JRC21 (talk • contribs)

Yes. I've replied to both of your comments on the AfD nomination page there. This is unnecessary. Vermont | reply here 22:29, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What's this ?...

... it's an Adopters Barnstar (level 1)!
When we're done, you'll get the rustic adopters Barnstar (which is level 2). Though for now O had to give you something as a gift to recognize nhow far we already came! Sincerely, User: Zanygenius(talk page) 14:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank's! Vermont | reply here 15:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Simon's Sircus

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Comment on your recent usage of Huggle on my talk page

Thanks for trying to protect my personal talk page from vandalism, but the guy merely was just moving our discussion to the correct spot. Pay more attention next time, okay? EMachine03 (talk) 22:37, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@EMachine03: Yep, sorry about that. All I saw was a user moving content on your talk page, with no edit summary. Being that there was no edit summary, and I have yet to develop telepathic abilities to know what an editor wants to do without an edit summary, I was unable to judge what said editor was doing. Sorry for the mistake, and thank you for informing me. Happy editing! Vermont | reply here 22:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

edit Warring

There have now been more than 3 reverts on the David McGimpsey article in under 24 hours. Such behavior is afoul of WP:3RR and can result in actions against an editor for "edit war." Collect (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Collect, I already blocked and unblocked for this. Vermont is aware of the issues, and has promised to be more careful in the future. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:13, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - I only noted the other party was currently blocked, and that the damage appears to be ongoing. Collect (talk) 14:16, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This happened more than 24 hours ago. It has been dealt with. I falsely assumed that WP:3RRBLP applied, when it did not. Vermont | reply here 14:49, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removing my edit to aviva page

I added a source as you requested. It is bloomberg. I do not think that my edit constituted vandalism. It is latest news about Aviva. I am happy for other users to clarify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.175.116 (talk) 00:23, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oshwah reverted the edits that you made after I reverted your first one. The content was unencyclopedic in terms of tone, and could be construed to be a WP:NPOV issue. Vermont | reply here 00:27, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Dave Ogilvie

Hello Vermont. I am new to editing anything on Wikipedia. I am trying to make the page on myself more complete. Can you help me do it. Thanks Dave Ogilvie Rabbitwithhorns (talk) 11:23, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Rabbitwithhorns: As the subject of the article, you are strongly discouraged from editing your own article, due to your conflict of interest. Please only edit it in order to correct obvious mistakes, like an incorrect age or hometown for example. Thank you for your interest in improving your article, but your recent contributions were copyright violations from your website (iirc) and were promotional, so they were removed. Feel free to ask me any questions you have :-) Vermont | reply here 11:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copying licensed material requires proper attribution

Hi. I see in a recent addition to Constructed wetland you included material from a webpage that is available under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. I've added the attribution for this particular instance. Please make sure that you follow this legal requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Diannaa: I think you may have confused me for someone else. I have never edited that article. Vermont | reply here 14:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I did, so sorry. You were the person who reviewed a report on this article at CopyPatrol and my notice was intended for the editor who added the content. Here's what I did: I added attribution at the article with this edit, and then pasted a note on the wrong user talk page. You could do these steps yourself if you find such cases at CopyPatrol in the future (except don't put the notice on the wrong user talk like I did) :) — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Diannaa: I discovered CopyPatrol two days ago and am still getting used to it, sorry. I'll do that myself next time (i was unaware we needed to add that attribution). Thanks, and happy editing :-) Vermont | reply here 15:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's not actually mentioned in the instructions, but that's the way I do it. Notifying and educating people is a good idea as well! Hopefully the more teaching we do the less work there will be at CopyPatrol in the future. Thank you so much for the work you've done so far on copyright clean-up, it's much appreciated. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Market Basket Protests Copyright

I spent a few hours working on an addition to the Market Basket Protests page and it was flagged for copyright infringement. Is okay if I rework my addition? There was identical phraseology, but my additions were were carefully structured for clarity and the repeated phrases are not essential to the article so they can be easily removed. I am new to Wikipedia so I appreciate your feedback and help. Thanks. ( Riebennacht (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC) )[reply]

Your edit was a copyright violation. If you want to add content, please write it yourself rather than copying from non-free sources. Vermont | reply here 22:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree. ( Riebennacht (talk) 22:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC) )[reply]
I am having trouble finding the CopyPatrol case. When I search for Market Basket protests nothing shows up. The autoflag says it can be found at 35339739 but I'm not sure what to do exactly in order to view it. This is a learning experience and I'd like to make a good contribution to the page. Thank you. (Riebennacht (talk) 22:44, 16 March 2018 (UTC))[reply]
@Riebennacht: Go here for the CopyPatrol case. Also, I moved this conversation to the bottom, as that is usually where new talk page messages go. Vermont | reply here 22:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermont: Amazing! Thank you so much. Also, I am curious, how/why did you start contributing to Wikipedia? It's a whole new world that I am very excited about. (Riebennacht (talk) 23:06, 16 March 2018 (UTC))[reply]
@Riebennacht: Well that's a long story. I started out by making an article, Ira Tiffen, then from there I got interested in how Wikipedia worked, so I started doing recent changes patrol. I then expanded to New Page Patrol and Articles for Creation. Nowadays, my "main" wiki is the Simple English Wikipedia, where I do a lot of anti-vandal work. I discovered CopyPatrol two days ago and am doing that here in my free time :) If you have any questions I can help answer, feel free to ask me. Vermont | reply here 23:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermont: Just rewrote my article addition to the Market Basket page! That's very interesting... Why/how Ira Tiffen? Also, what do you suggest for new editors who are trying to gain their bearings. I feel like I don't know what I don't know at this point. (Riebennacht (talk) 00:06, 17 March 2018 (UTC))[reply]
@Riebennacht: I honestly forgot how I got started here. I found comfort in recent changes patrol, although that didn't last long. I'll link a few areas you could possibly help out in: WP:RCP. WP:CopyPatrol. You could also do some work making articles. For example, I was reading an article about Instant Pot, googled it, realized there wasn't an article, so I made one. Vermont | reply here 00:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

HERB RAGLAN - PLEASE RESTORE WHAT WAS ENTERED EARLIER UPON READING BELOW - THANK YOUR -

GOOD DAY -

WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE UP ALL OF THE HERB RAGLAN / ' RAGS ' RAGLAN BIOGRAPHICAL DATA ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO WHERE PEOPLE DERIVED WHAT IS NOW SHOWN ALL OVER THE WEB FROM US - STADIUM SPORTS INTERNATIONAL / HOCKEY - AND WE NEVER WERE GIVEN ANY CREDIT ... NOTHING !!!

TO-DATE, WE HAVE ENTERED OVER 5,000 CORRECTIONS / ADJUSTMENTS / UPDATES ON ALL THESE BARIOUS WIKIPEDIA PAGES / CATEGORIES AND ARE REALLY RATHER TIRED OF ALL YOU SO-CALLED ' EDITORS ' WHO KNOW NOTHING OF THESE SPORTS OR MILITARY TOPICS AS HAVE HAD TO TELL TOO MANY OF YOU PEOPLE TO SHAPE UP AND DO SOME RESEARCH ...

THEREFORE, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING NOW AND RESTORE ALL WHICH WAS ADDED EARLIER TODAY, BEING ENTIRELY 100 % CORRECT / ACCURATE / TRUTHFUL AS THERE IS NO REFERENCE FOR SOMETHING CREATED BEFORE 1990 WHICH CAN BE LOCATED TODAY AND YOU KNOW THAT TO BE THE TRUTH, TOO ...

IF YOU WISH TO DO SO, PLEASE CALL MR RAGLAN HIMSELF DIRECTLY AT - 705-749-MEAT - IN PETERBOROUGH, ONTARIO, AND READ THE ENTIRE ENTRY WE ADDED TODAY TO HIM AT WHICH TIME HE WILL AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ...

ALSO, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO REMOVE THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT SPORTS WHICH I KNOW FEW OF YOU DO AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO PLAYED THESE GAMES, IN OUR INSTANCE BASEBALL AND HOCKEY, WE KNOW ALL THESE FORMER PLAYERS, HAVE INTERVIEWED HUNDREDS TO THOUSANDS OF THEM FOR TV / RADIO / BOOKS / PAPERS AND SUCH FOR OVER 55 YEARS ...

IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER ISSUE WITH THE ABOVE THEN PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO - CLAYMARSTON@HOTMAIL.COM -

THANK YOU VERY MUCH - COLONEL77

FRIDAY 16 MARCH 2018 - 9:37 PM

@COLONEL77: It appears your caps lock key has malfunctioned. I would recommend getting that checked out. Now, straight to the point: you added copyrighted content to an article, in this case Herb Raglan. As it is copyrighted, it violated policy and copyright laws and therefore was removed. I must stress: do not re-add this content. Thank you, and feel free to ask me any questions you may have :) Vermont | reply here 01:42, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Milhist

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask any of the project coordinators or any other experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome, and we are looking forward to seeing you around! AustralianRupert (talk) 23:43, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank's for welcoming me, although I've been in the project for a while but had forgotten to update it after I changed my username. Vermont | reply here 23:46, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source added on this article K M Mozibul Hoque

Hi Vermont, I already added several sources on this article K M Mozibul Hoque. Actually, I work on that time when you add a tag in the article. --Hasive • talk • 11:25, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding sources, but at the time of it falling into my NPP feed it was an unsourced BLP (see WP:BLPPROD). Therefore, I tagged it and moved on. Remember, if you're working on an article that could take some time (like this one) you can use your userspace or a draft to make sure it's compliant with WP:BLP policies before it hits the mainspace. Thanks, and happy editing! Vermont | reply here 11:28, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted disruptive edits

Hi, I have reverted your disruptive edits to Horizon Chase. I'm not sure why you would sign up to be a reviewer if you will only delete article content and sources, making the article untenable. I don't believe that the article is POV at all, as it clearly states some grievances a reviewer had with the game. There were simply not many stated "downsides" to the game given by most reviewers. You should have checked the sources before assuming that it was an opinion. I have added another "negative" to the reception section, but that could have been done without such extreme measures.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll write my reply to this later tonight when I get to my computer. Thank you for contacting me on my talk page, I will be glad to discuss why I made those edits (and why I intend to do more than just remove that section). :-) Vermont | reply here 18:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)Zxcvbnm Vermont's edits were in no way disruptive. Could you please explain how you've come to this conclusion? Perhaps you should take a look at WP:CIVILITY.CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:10, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion wholesale of an entire section of the article, without merit. The section paraphrased sources and while it may have grounds for adding more criticisms of the game, that is no reason to remove it entirely and add (obviously false) tags to the article. I as the creator was not notified prior to this despite obviously making the article in good faith. The deletion could easily lead to the page being caught up in a lengthy AfD due to all the sources being removed.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's not grounds to accuse someone of disruption. It was a good faith effort by a page reviewer, which several editors, myself included agree with the tag addition. Anyone can see the history of an article so the idea that removing contentious or NPOV content would somehow cause an otherwise notable topic to get "caught up in an AfD" is laughable at best. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


@Zxcvbnm: I was going through my normal morning NPPing on my iPhone when I stumbled across Horizon Chase. It has a myriad of issues. Since you seem to be adamant that the article is, "not POV in the slightest" (Source), I've taken the liberty of preparing a list to outline NPOV errors and general problems I found when reviewing your page.
  • To begin, we have the lead. First sentence is great. Here's the rest of the lead: "A 3D game, it touts the fact that it has a unique retro aesthetic inspired by 2D, 16-bit titles. It soundtrack has been referred to as "Sega-core", in reference to that publisher's classic racing games. The game received positive reviews from critics, who praised its visuals, gameplay and soundtrack, calling it one of the best racing games on iOS at the time of its release." I don't think that there is any way to argue that the last sentence in that quote is not promotional . The first sentence of that quote isn't something that should belong in the lead as it doesn't matter what the game "touts" (sounds like puffery). It's also unsourced, but that doesn't matter as long as you mention it later in the article (you don't). Regarding the middle sentence, it does not matter what it has been referred to as. It does not matter what people think of it (in this case), or whether they like the game. We are, first and foremost, an encyclopedia (first pillar) and we are not here to convey to our readers what certain game critics like. (see WP:NOT)
  • Moving on to the "Gameplay" section. It's not bad per se, but I would reword "Additional twists to the racing formula" to make it more neutral.
  • Regarding the "Development" section. It's a summary of an interview. (see WP:RS) The section also only addresses the soundtrack development, which I'd assume is less important than the game itself. The bit about the marriage proposal could be phrased more clearly for non-native readers but it's good for now.
  • "Reception", the section that I removed and you reverted. Per WP:NOT#SOAP, information included must be independent, third-party reliable sources free of puffery. I'll blockquote the section below:

Horizon Chase received positive reviews, with an aggregate score of 88/100 on Metacritic. Carter Dodson of TouchArcade rated the game 5/5 stars, praising the game's visual style, soundtrack and controls, and calling it a "template for how other developers need to do retro-inspired games." Harry Slater of Pocket Gamer rated the game a 9/10, calling it "a bright and brash arcade racer that looks stunning", while saying that its gameplay is good enough to back up its presentation. He noted that the game got "a little grindy at times", though calling it "the type of grind you're happy to wade through". The site awarded the game the "Gold" award.[2] Tom Christiansen of Gamezebo rated the game 3.5/5 stars, calling the visuals "solid" and praising the soundtrack, but saying he disliked the auto-turn assist system that was impossible to turn off, also calling the AI "impossibly fast" and unlocking new cars overly difficult.

All but the last sentence is extremely promotional. It's not a matter of adding more negative reviews, as you hinted by saying "it may have grounds for adding more criticisms of the game" in an earlier comment on my talk page. This is a matter of removing reviews fully. Again, we are an encyclopedia, and our purpose is not to sway readers to support purchasing a product or refraining from purchasing such product. Removing biased reviews (unlikely to be independent) is supported by community consensus outlined in WP:NOT. I recommend that you review WP:RS.
So, regarding your message on my talk page. I'll echo what Chrissymad said: you may want to take a look at WP:CIVILITY, or the fourth pillar of what runs this community. I'm sorry that I removed your contributions, but no one is exempt from content policies and guidelines. I removed that content as it is promotional, and I intent to remove all of the other promotional and unencyclopedic text that I have mentioned above. Furthermore, your comment "I'm not sure why you would sign up to be a reviewer if you will only delete article content and sources, making the article untenable.". Why would you say something like that? It's blatantly uncivil. We are here to discuss content and come to a informed consensus, not here to fight. To answer your rhetorical question, I requested New Page Reviewer permissions to help maintain the quality of articles that Wikipedia strives for. Your article had and still has significant promotional issues. I'd much rather have a solid stub than a promotional, but longer, article, and I'm sure you would too. I'm sorry for whatever offense I may have caused by removing your contributions, but from what seems to be community consensus after reviewing policies and Chrissymad's comment, I will remove the promotional material until we have established consensus here or on the article talk page. Thank you. Vermont | reply here 22:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The sources I used are reliable, independent, third party references, and you are claiming the opposite, that I used promotional content. Most of them didn't have anything negative to say about the game. It's just a good game, as reviewed by critics. A Reception section is not puffery, it's required for a notable video game article (see also WP:VG/CONTENT for more information). Deleting it wholesale because you deem it to be "puffery" suggests to me that you never checked the sources and still haven't, because they are unbiased reviewers and not advertisements. "Puffery" is when you advertise a game without merit, generally by not referencing your statements. I never said anything to the tune of "buy this now, it's great!" I simply restated the game's positive reception.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As for the part about "best racing game", I admit that was an oversight. However, there was a quote to that effect in one of the reviews, so I am not POV pushing. That can easily be added into the article.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:38, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm: This, the main source for a lot of the "Reception" section, is a reliable, independent, third party reference? That is extremely unlikely. Furthermore, WP:VG/CONTENT (which you linked) states that "Articles on video games should give an encyclopedic overview of a game and its importance to the industry.". See my comments about the promotion in the lead, as I address that. Regarding the guidelines that state there should be a "Reception" section, I'll admit I was unaware of that. But, the reception section in Horizon Chase was more promotion than it was showing "the impact that the subject had on the game industry: commercially, artistically, and technologically." (from WP:VG/CONTENT). Please consider reviewing WP:VG/LRS. Judging from the tone of your response, it seems as though you are defending yourself rather than engaging in discussion. Yes, it's good to stand up for oneself, but remember that we are both here to try to make this encyclopedia as best as it can be. Thanks, Vermont | reply here 00:02, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Phillip Nunn

References.... It would probably help if you gave me longer than 3 minutes to finish the article.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-nunn https://cryptoconomysummit.com/speakers/phillip-nunn/ https://www.propertyfundsworld.com/2018/02/28/261700/uk-blockchain-expert-phillip-nunn-joins-evareium-ito-advisory-board https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/business-news/blackmore-group-moves-city-centre-12807751 https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/northwest/tag/Phillip+Nunn http://www.businesscloud.co.uk/news/bitcoin-value-to-reach-6000-and-60000-in-2018 https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-platform-to-help-promising-athletes-to-jump-financial-hurdles https://www.cryptocynews.com/bitcoin-reach-6000-60000-year/ https://player.fm/series/cryptopulse/ep-14-an-interview-with-phillip-nunn https://foundico.com/ico/tv-two.html https://blog.evareium.io/evareium-advisory-team-announcement-8cd2f5fd1a8e https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-platform-to-help-promising-athletes-to-jump-financial-hurdles https://sportyco.io/team.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhillipNunn (talk • contribs) 22:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PhillipNunn: Yes, about that. Add sources and remove the tag. It's simply there until there are references, so that if references are not added we can remove it per BLP policy. Also, please remember to sign your posts using four ~'s. Happy editing! Vermont | reply here 22:11, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing brackets on PA House elections page

Thanks for catching and fixing that, I thought I caught it when I was doing that but I guess no all of them. Just a habit from when I'm doing wiki page links. Nevermore27 (talk) 06:47, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

:) Vermont | reply here 09:38, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adopt-A-User

Hi! I’m wondering whether you’d be willing to mentor me. Like you, I do a good deal of anti-vandal work. Centibyte(talk) 13:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very sorry, I currently have an adoptee who is on a wikibreak until early April. I cannot take on another, but if there's anything I can help you with (understanding guidelines, questions, etc.) feel free to ask! Vermont | reply here 18:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks anyhow! Centibyte(talk) 19:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bear with Me

Ah, thank you! I kept it under review while I resolved the salting with the admin who carried it out. I knew it was unsalted by then, but was considering not accepting. It still seems inclusion-worthy, I think. Thanks, Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 20:57, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've watchlisted it to make sure it's not changed in any way that would resemble the content that got it salted in the first place (repeated additions of unambiguous promotion). Understandable to keep it under review, although the page creator came to the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel asking what was up, so I went ahead and accepted it. It seems fine now, although I don't expect it to be left in it's current state, judging from the amount of times the page was deleted. Vermont | reply here 20:59, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 23:06, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alessandro Nolli Brianzi and Twins of Evil: The Second Coming Tour have moved to draft page

Hi Vermont, I have moved Alessandro Nolli Brianzi and Twins of Evil: The Second Coming Tour to draft page Draft:Alessandro Nolli Brianzi and Draft:Twins of Evil: The Second Coming Tourand requested the main page copy to be deleted. As a review, how do you review a page where a page has no independent source to be found? Content added/edited in Wikipedia needs "inline citation" from independent (third party / secondary / tertiary) reliable source (in any language) for verification to gauge the nobility criteria is met. The articles's inline citation is the WP:BURDEN which it is on the person adding the information. Please note official website, records of sport events or individual player records are consider primary source and not independent source, and social network source such as facebook, twitter, instagram, imbd and etc are considered NOT reliable source and can not be used for citing. Independent reliable source are sources are those obtain from major newspaper, such as The Guardian, Sydney Morning Herald, CNN news and etc. or source obtain from major publisher of the work (for example, Random House or Cambridge University Press). Pls see

  1. reliable source - see WP:RS
  2. primary vs secondary vs tiartiary source - see WP:WPNOTRS
  3. verification - see WP:V
  4. notability - see WP:N

Here is the links for Patroler info, kindly read Wikipedia:New pages patrol. If a page is not satisfactory, pattroller could move to page to draft for creator further development of the page. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:28, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CASSIOPEIA: I marked the articles as patrolled, as I am entirely sure that they will be deleted as cross namespace redirects. I was not judging the draft's content, which is what you apparently think I was doing, nor am I contesting your draftification of the articles. Thanks, and happy editing. Vermont | reply here 00:35, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I will further mention that page mover permissions would be very beneficial to you in draftifying articles in your new page patrolling. Vermont | reply here 00:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, If you deem the page will be redirect then do the redirect instead of marked reviewed and how about Alessandro Nolli Brianzi? a redirect is not the case here as the page most likely wont pass GNG. Kindly read the links I sent to you. I have moved the pages by the way as mentioned in the subject title. When a page is not satisfactory to be on main page the reveiwer could move the page to draft for creator to further develop the page such as adding sources. Thank you for your contribution. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@CASSIOPEIA: I don't think you see what I'm trying to say. I marked those pages as patrolled because you patrolled them by moving them to draft space and marked them to be deleted as R2's, which I am not contesting. This discussion is a bit needless. Vermont | reply here 00:55, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Vermont, I might misunderstand you, but I just pointed that if a page with NO source, how a pattroler reviews the page for verifying the content is from independent reliable source and to gauge of the meeting of notability - on what ground the review is based on? and not just reading a page and get mark patrolled. Anyway, thank you for you contributed time spent and assistance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

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As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

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Copyright comment

Thanks for the vigilance re: copyright! I've discussed it with my students and we're all on the same page now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjovanovich (talk • contribs) 02:04, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Work in progress

Hi Vermont,

I am currently working on the page, I will briefly update the data and add missing reference. Please do not delete the page.

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaime Rossello (talk • contribs) 11:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jaime Rossello: Could I ask if you are writing about yourself? Thanks, Vermont | reply here 11:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Vermon: Yes, absolutely. I am, hope this does not goes against Wikipedia guidelines. Please let me know how I can improve this. Thank you.
@Jaime Rossello: Autobiographies are strongly discouraged. See WP:AUTOBIO. I'm afraid that there may not be enough reliable sources to make you notable. (see WP:NBIO) Vermont | reply here 11:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Brendan Carr

Hey again, Did you manage to take a look at my page? Brendan Brendancarr (talk) 17:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry. Evidently I forgot about that. I'll check it out in a bit. Vermont | reply here 17:55, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Brendancarr:. If there's any edits you'd like to make to the article about you, feel free to copy the current revision of Brendan Carr (don't edit it, just copy the source code) over to User:Vermont/sandbox/Brendan Carr and make your changes. I will notice that you edited my sandbox, and will review it and move it over to Brendan Carr if it is suitable. Or, you can just message me as I am always open to helping :) Vermont | reply here 19:01, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Vermont, I will try, but I really struggle with screen time right now due to this medical issue I have, All the work I done on the page last night I did with a friend, he spent ages working on it for me, he had never used Wikipedia before either. Everything I wrote was in that previous edit that Klueske removed. Brendan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendancarr (talk • contribs) 19:16, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that's fine. What I did to the article was take the source code from the edit right before Klueske removed all of it, and I sorted it into a list format and cleaned up some of the content, then replaced the content that was there with my new content. Vermont | reply here 19:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your help, much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendancarr (talk • contribs) 19:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey buddy, I need you help again, I keep getting mistaken all over the internet for a US politician called Brendan Carr, it's been going on for a while now and seems to now have started for the first time on my wiki talk page, is there anyway you can turn my page into a page similar to that of the politician where the word Actor or British Actor appears next to my name in the same way another Brendan Carr has Doctor and another Irish politician I believe this would help to stop this happening to me on Wikipedia also, please have a read of what's been posted and see if you can make anything of it lol.

Thank you

Brendan

p.s. my Wikipedia headshot was removed despite the copyright owners writing in and granting permission as I was asked to do again any ideas whats going in there also.


@Brendancarr: I just checked, and what has happened is that there's a hatnote on the top of your article (the main, most notable Brendan Carr) that links to the other two Brendan Carr's in case the visitor going to your article meant to go to another person with your name. I don't see why they would confuse you for this guy, but when someone types in "Brendan Carr" they are sent to your article. For now, there is no need that I see to move you to "Brendan Carr (actor)". Regarding your picture, I am going to message some people on IRC and see what the issue could be, as I'm not very skilled when it comes to images. Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions. Vermont | reply here 12:15, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Vermont, did you manage to find anything out about my photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brendancarr (talk • contribs) 19:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Brendancarr: Other than that they were deleted, I was unable to find any information. I recommend that you have someone take it themselves, make an account themselves, then upload that image as their own work. Otherwise, it could be deleted as a copyright violation. Also, in the future, feel free to make new sections on my talk page rather than reusing this old one. The archive bot is going to remove this soon. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me :) Thanks, Vermont | reply here 19:14, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018

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William Cook (Ontario Alliance)

Hi Vermont, New to all this. What do you have to do to make it "Notable"? BGOS 62 — Preceding unsigned comment added by BGOS 62 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If a subject isn't notable, there isn't really anything you can do. Vermont | reply here 14:46, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Gamble Kennedy

The spelling "Anne" is correct as it appears on her birth certificate. "Ann" has appeared in some articles, but it is incorrect.Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:02, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As you evidently have her birth certificate, could I ask your connection with the subject? Thanks, Vermont | reply here 22:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please explain to me what the problem is with this article? As I have explained to other editors, Anne Gamble Kennedy was concertizing in the 1940s and 50s. As an African-American, her concerts were not always covered by the white press. I have seen and handled the actual programs of her concerts, but finding references to them online is very difficult. Archives from African-American newspapers are not always available. I have included the links I could find. FYI - her hundreds of students are waiting to see this article, as is the National Fisk University Alumni Association. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is an explanation of the draft's issues in my decline reason at Draft:Anne Gamble Kennedy. I will stress that your repeated creation (and subsequent deletion) of Anne Gamble Kennedy has not helped. Now, I understand that she was not covered widely by the "white press", but that is not an excuse to bypass WP:RS and other reference-related guidelines. Furthermore, it does not matter how many people are waiting for this article to be on the mainspace (in this case). It does not grant the ability to go around Wikipedia's community consensus. I think that the article can be written, but you are going to need to remove the unsourced content. Vermont | reply here 02:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is also the sexism question. If she had not been married to the director of the Fisk Jubilee Singers, who knows if that would have freed her up to pursue her own solo career? So many women make this sacrifice. But Anne Gamble Kennedy is undeniably a major part of American musical history. It's just a shame that her race makes her almost invisible. Which content exactly should be removed? I don't know what you mean by "unsourced." It seems every time I Google her, there are more entries. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC) And how do I reference a funeral program? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 05:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you are upset with the incident describing the racist conductor of the West Virginia Symphony Orchestra, I have audio tapes of interviews of both Anne Gamble and her husband detailing the incident. How would I reference those? Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Citing sources. Vermont | reply here 21:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are many more references now. Can you please tell me if it is ready to re-submit? Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better than earlier. I only did a quick check of the references, but it seems to be much more well-sourced than before. There's still a lot of work to be done, in terms of rephrasing slightly promotional content. Vermont | reply here 21:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So would this be correct: Kennedy, N. (1987). Anne Gamble and Matthew Kennedy: Taped interviews Fisk: Fisk University Library. Nina07011960 (talk)

I'm sorry; I really don't know. I only recently started writing content and haven't fully mastered manual citations. I usually just shove URL's into the automatic cite tool. Vermont | reply here 21:52, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So how do I get the "Source" into the "Notes"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If it's in ref tags it will automatically go either at the bottom of the article, or wherever you put the reflist template. Vermont | reply here 22:01, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I put it in, and added a reference to Aaron Douglas. Please tell me this is ready to re-submit. Nina07011960 (talk)

You can resubmit it if you'd like. There is still work to be done, which I mentioned earlier, but some reviewers might rephrase it when they go through copyediting. Vermont | reply here 22:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You still didn't tell me what you meant by "promotional content." The "widely praised" came directly from her funeral program, which I still don't know how to reference. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:53, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the "widely praised", and anything else like that. Vermont | reply here 00:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So how would you re-write that sentence? "She was known..."? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not the best person to ask for content writing help, but you should try to neutralize any possibly promotional phrasing. Yes, your example is a good way to do that. Vermont | reply here 20:59, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. It's done, with a reference. Nina07011960 (talk)

Great! I'm currently working on Charles P. Mattocks, but once I'm done I'll go over and check out the progress. Thanks, Vermont | reply here 21:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How do you correct the spelling on the caption of a picture. I corrected the spelling on the "More Info" page, and it still comes up wrong. Aaron Douglas has one "s." I don't know how the second "s" got there. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed :) Vermont | reply here 00:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if I was supposed to, but I made a couple of changes. First, at one point you had put "Kennedy" instead of "Gamble." She wasn't married yet. Second, I added "Fisk Memorial Chapel" for the location of their wedding. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:26, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and I added the reference you requested, for "Ray Lev." Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you hiding documented instances of blatant racism? You deleted the racism of the conductor of the West Virginia Symphony. I have audio recordings attesting to this fact. This is American history! Chances are, if that racist man had not been in that position, you would have already heard of Anne Gamble Kennedy. This looks like a white cover-up. Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not "hiding" these instances. Please, do not be so quick to judge someone's intentions. Simply put, the reference wasn't verifiable, and in such cases I remove possibly defamatory information. Your own wording was that she was removed "due to suspected racist sentiment." I do not doubt that her removal by the conductor was influenced by racist sentiment, but Wikipedia is not here to speculate. Vermont | reply here 21:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to add the titles of the articles on newspapers.com in the references, but I can give them to you here:

15. text - "Anne Gamble Kennedy and Matthew Kennedy will perform..."

17. "Emotion Fills Fisk Tribute to Singers" (headline) by Louis Nicholas.

18. "Anne Gamble Kennedy will appear in faculty piano recital..."

19. THE TENNESSEAN, Sunday, April 20, 1975 "Fisk Festival Music-Filled" (headline)

20. "FISK CHOIR STRONG" (headline) By Louis Nicholas Nina07011960 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And to respond to your last entry, how do you EVER prove racism? People rarely admit to it in public. I'm sorry she couldn't have told you herself about the racism she encountered. We're left trying to tell her story - the whole truth of it. It isn't fair to leave half of the truth out. Nina07011960 (talk)

C Class Cruiser

Re your reversal of my edit, I was trying to correct inaccurate information about the armament of the ships when they were converted to anti-aircraft ships. There are a number of mistakes, including references to 3" guns that were in fact multiple two-pounder pom-poms (either eight barrel or four barrel guns). There are also inconsistent references to the numbers of single 4" guns that were fitted (there is one reference to eleven such guns, whereas originally ten guns were fitted, later reduced to eight guns soon after the outbreak of the Second World War. My source is D K Brown, Nelson to Vanguard, London, 2000, pp. 155-6. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.24.102 (talk) 22:46, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sorry for the confusion. Feel free to re-add the information with a reference. Vermont | reply here 23:14, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion message removed

I have removed your message at User talk:Lhtee about your deletion proposal for Nicolaos Moussiopoulos, because I have deleted the article for a different reason, and I thought the deletion message might confuse the new editor. In any case the editor will get the message about deletion from your deletion message for the other copy of the same article. I decided this was one of the rare occasions when removing another editor's talk page post was justifiable, but please let me know if you disagree. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Of course! Thanks for doing so, I had overlooked the fact that they might be confused with two deletion messages on their talk page. Happy editing! Vermont | reply here 10:22, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your User Page

Browser was locking up often when hitting submit so I was testing it trying to figure out why. I cleared cache and cookies and it works normally now. DiamondDish (talk) 01:23, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Testplant has rebranded to Eggplant

Hi, im trying to change the page as the company has rebranded from Testplant to Eggplant - see the source here https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180327006455/en/Testplant-Announces-Acquisition-NCC-Group%E2%80%99s-Web-Performance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eggplant claire (talk • contribs) 12:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it looked like vandaism. Feel free to undo my revert, and add the source. Thanks, Vermont | reply here 12:28, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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12 Strong

You say that editing "September 11 attacks" to "September 11 false flag attacks" is not constructive - why? It's the truth, and you know that. So what are you talking about? I suppose the September 11 false flag bombings and "psy-op" were what you call constructive? On the contrary, they were highly destructive.

I don't understand you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.210.208.1 (talk) 22:44, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Materials & Applications

Hi Vermont! Thanks for the helpful advice on adding sections to the Materials & Applications page. You also flagged it as possibly non-neutral - could you give me some tips about how to edit it down so that it is more objective? I have only been citing sources from online newspapers and publications, or directly from the non profits website themselves. I am working on this page as part of a digital media class assignment to explore Wikipedia's content creation process, so any advice would be helpful! Marmidoester (talk) 01:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC)marnidoester — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marmidoester (talk • contribs) 22:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rereading it, it isn't all too promotional. But, it gives undue weight to good reviews and quotes from other people/organizations. Vermont | reply here 22:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll try to find some non-positive or more factual information to reference.

I just added new material and quoted from online articles. Can you let me know if the new edits are appropriate? I have not been able to source negative POV so I have been looking for different coverage instead. Marmidoester (talk) 05:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian God

Stop reverting changes. This is real information! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:8300:A2D:5907:D12F:6E4C:3645 (talk) 00:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't. Vermont | reply here 00:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Boilolyeet's question

are you a robot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boilolyeet (talk • contribs)

I am not a robot. I hope that answers your question :) Vermont | reply here 00:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Testing new reply script Vermont | reply here 10:22, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your Note: Read carefully WP: BLP

Sreten Bozic (B. Wongar) is a living person and well-known and highly acclaimed Australian writer. Slanderous comments on the biography talk page tarnishing his image are not allowed according to WP:BLP--178.223.70.232 (talk) 09:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I know WP:BLP. But, claiming that there is likely sockpuppetry and COI involved in the page, and starting a section about it on the talk page is by no means against BLP guidelines. Vermont | reply here 10:11, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do you? How about this slanderous "Wongar has been exposed as a unrepentent hoaxer by a notable Australian literary figure". WP:COI means B. Wongar wrote his Wikipedia bio?--178.223.70.232 (talk) 10:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It does not necessarily mean that B. Wongar wrote it, just that someone with a conflict of interest did. Either way, the article has issues. Furthermore, that message on the talk page cites multiple sources. Discussing it isn't against WP:BLP, if we were to paste it into the article without a source, it would be. Please leave the message on the article's talk page. Vermont | reply here 10:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did leave the message on the article talk page. You deleted it. If COI then where it comes from? How about this slanderous "Wongar has been exposed as a unrepentent hoaxer by a notable Australian literary figure"?--178.223.70.232 (talk) 10:31, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I didn’t delete anything off the talk page; you blanked the section and all I did was restore it. I’m assuming COI on the basis that there’s a lot of promotional content, although there may not be a COI per se; perhaps you just happen to like promoting random people. Furthermore, that “slanderous” comment is sourced, and was made on the talk page to discuss. Vermont | reply here 11:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Read WP:AGF and WP:GAMING. Also, who deleted my comment ]? You did it apparently. Slanderous comment is a personal and unqualified opinion coming from a not notable writer, therefore not a valid source. Contrast this opinion to those coming from Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir, Samuel Beckett, Alan Marshall, etc.--178.223.70.232 (talk) 14:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, it seems I did remove them when reverting your edits. Sorry, feel free to re-add them. Also, not being notable does not mean someone isn’t a reliable source; see WP:IRS. Rather than removing comments you disagree with, perhaps you could discuss them instead on the talk page, where the comments were posted? Vermont | reply here 14:39, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Templates

Hi, Vermont, whilst I'm not into Huggle for months (and have no idea about whether it allows an user tot choose warning-levels), I guess this was not the best warning in the circumstances, by a mile.A level-3 uw-chat would have been more appropriate.Regards,~ Winged BladesGodric 07:49, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, there is no feature to change warning levels. Also, I soon after undid my revert of the edit in question, as it was on a Wikipedia talk page and I am unfamiliar with the specific rules of that talk page, as it corresponds to a writing contest. Thank you for contacting me, and happy editing! Vermont | reply here 11:09, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Halal certification in Europe

You commented that Halal certification in Europe has too many bluelinks. I did a cleanup pass on that article after it was moved to mainspace and added most of the current bluelinks. I would be pleased to have any suggestions for how I could have done that better, i.e. which of the bluelinks I added were excessive. Thanks for your input. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would have fixed it myself, although I was on mobile at the time. It's referring to repeating bluelinks, like halal, EU, UK; as well as unnecessary bluelinks, like UK, meat, goods, authentic, supermarket, and others. Vermont | reply here 00:36, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, I can see why authentic is a silly link (did I really do that?), and if there's duplicate links, that too. But, some of those you mentioned, such as meat and supermarket seem appropriate. The article is about buying meat. It seems reasonable to link to articles about the stuff you're buying and where you buy it. Anyway, I'll take a another pass and see what I can clean up. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I also think the lead could use some work, especially the first bit with “Halal meat is meat...”. It seems unnecessary. Vermont | reply here 13:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Doing great work for Wikipedia Aviraj.gupta3 (talk) 07:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed. Amazing bot :) Vermont (talk) 10:32, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Google Scholar Reference

I want to use google scholar reference in my wikipedia articles. How can i use them? in my article related to Umair Ahmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by MairaButtPak (talk • contribs) 13:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Citing sources. Vermont (talk) 13:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Benafsha Soonawalla

Hello Vermont. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Benafsha Soonawalla, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Subject might be important/significant (see also Google News/Books hits for this subject) / use WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead to allow other editors to participate in this decision. Thank you. SoWhy 14:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Wright (entrepreneur)

Hi Vermont,

You recently got in touch to let me know that you flagged my Wikipedia page for speedy deletion.

Please can you clarify what you'd like to see from my Wikipedia page? I am already included in Wikipedia as an encyclopedia entry in The Apprentice (UK series ten) , therefore I'm unsure why you believe that my subject is not important enough to be included in an encyclopedia (when in fact, it already is).

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

Mark Wright — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark.e.wright (talk • contribs) 13:53, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The speedy deletion was declined, and I recognize that I acted too quickly, as you have a claim to notability with the TV show. I recommend you read WP:AUTOBIO, which can help you understand the community consensus around autobiographies. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me here. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 14:55, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Horst-Wessel-Lied

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Invitation to WikiProject Portals

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

There's a watchlist, of all the pages in the portal namespace, for viewing Related changes.

And more.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   14:39, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joined. I’ll work on the Vermont portal later :D Vermont (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Miller page deletion

Hi, I wanted to ask why the majority of the content on the page I've created has been deleted (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_L._Miller). All information was verified at the source and included legitimate references. I would appreciate an explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zuzosi (talk • contribs) 11:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging London Hall. Vermont (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. The information I removed was either unreferenced or based on passing mentions. Much of it was added by (single purpose account) Zuzosi. This is the only reference I've been able to find to justify notability: [1], and it doesn't discuss Miller's work in depth. The article should perhaps be taken to AfD, I was mainly trying to save it by removing some of the more obvious junk. London Hall (talk) 16:56, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@London Hall: it was taken to AFD a week ago at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian L. Miller (music/entertainment), and the nomination was withdrawn by the nominator after WP:RS from Forbes and the St Louis Post-Dispatch were added. In your haste to delete unsourced claims, you also deleted two Forbes references, including this in-depth profile of Miller. I've just restored them both, in the hope that the article can be built back up in a neutral tone using these and other WP:RS. The Mighty Glen (talk) 11:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@The Mighty Glen, my bad, thanks for the heads-up on this. London Hall (talk) 18:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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