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December 2010

Category:Women's association football biography stubs/{{Women-footy-bio-stub}}

Many sub-cats and sub-temps. Just created today. I have no objections to keeping them. Category:Australian women's football (soccer) biography stubs/{{Australia-women-footy-bio-stub}} Category:Norwegian women's football biography stubs/{{Norway-women-footy-bio-stub}} Category:New Zealand women's football (soccer) biography stubs/{{NewZealand-women-footy-bio-stub}} Category:German women's football (soccer) biography stubs/{{Germany-women-footy-bio-stub}} {{US-women-footy-bio-stub}} {{England-women-footy-bio-stub}} ~Gosox(55)(55) 13:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to the original discussion found on this page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2010/August. As you can see, the main category (Category:Women's association football biography stubs) was approved, as well as general consent that national subcategories would be quickly needed. Granted, the national sub-cats and templates were not officially registered. I took the liberty to copy the name of the main biography category for each country and just add 'women's' into the title. So, the reason for inconsistent naming in the subcategories, is because of inconsistent naming in the main national association football biography stub categories. (And the German category is Category:German women's football biography stubs). Dawynn (talk) 21:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
My bad, I completely missed that. My apologies. I believe that it's generally recommended that you get national subcats and temps approved, however, even though they can be speedied. (Correct me if I'm wrong?) ~Gosox(55)(55) 15:04, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Keep parent cat as proposed and keep the subcats as they would be speediable anyway, I think I mentioned creating upmerged templates in the discussion and that was supported do I have no problem with them at all. Waacstats (talk) 13:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

{{BS-geo-stub}}/Category:Black Sea geography stubs

Created 22 Dec, doesn't appear to have been discussed. Noticed it because the category had parent category Category:Stubs, which I've removed. PamD (talk) 23:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

The template name is distinctly non-standard and will need to be changed, and there's no indication which Black Sea region these are for (if it's for the sea itself, then it's definitely faulty, but it could well be for a Black sea region of Ukraine, Turkey, or the like. Hm. Looks like it's for the black sea itself, which is also not a good way to split these stubs. they should be marked with whichever country has jurisdiction over the locations (or if none, with marine-geo-stub). And every onje of these stubs is already bcorrectly marked with that. Distinctly SFD material. Grutness...wha? 10:47, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Moved to SFD. Grutness...wha? 10:52, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

{{Rhodophyta-stub}}/Category:Rhodophyta stubs

Created today unproposed. The template seems OK, and the category's almost passable, though it was an unnecessary split given the current size of Category:Algae stubs. Looks a likely keeper. Grutness...wha? 18:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC) Whoops - skip this - just found the proposal. Grutness...wha? 18:28, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

{{Arts-stub}}

Not used and not even using the asbox template. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

...and already adequatelyu covered by the correctly named {{art-stub}} and various other related {{culture-stub}} types. This is an SFD candidate. Grutness...wha? 18:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Category:Kingdom of France stubs / {{Kingdom of France-stub}}

My cat scan of stub articles for the top 5 levels of Category:Kingdom of France revealed over 1000 articles as potential stubs. Some may be false positives, but I believe we have plenty to justify this category. My only issue is the template name. But I'm not sure what to propose. Any suggestions? Dawynn (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Any objection to {{KingdomOfFrance-stub}}? Dawynn (talk) 13:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
{{KingdomofFrance-stub}} would be better. Grutness...wha? 22:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

November 2010

Category:SavanesCI geography stubs

With over 90 articles in this category, it is viable. But I don't like the name. I'd like to propose Category:Savanes, Côte d'Ivoire, geography stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

See WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2009/May#Category:Côte d'Ivoire_geography_stubs. As this is not a "discovery," the proper place for proposing and discussing category name changes is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. --Kleopatra (talk) 05:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
While the templates, as you pointed out, were properly registered, I do not see that the category names were ever registered or discussed. However, I have moved this discussion, as requested. Please feel free to leave notes on the discussion page. Dawynn (talk) 15:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:French film stubs splits

I don't see a proposal for the following small categories. I'd suggest deleting the categories for now, but keeping the templates to upmerge to Category:French film stubs, until these reach a reasonable size:

Dawynn (talk) 13:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Support deletion Waacstats (talk) 12:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Category:Opera singer stubs splits

I have no complaint about the Opera singer stubs category, and the larger national categories that have been registered under it. However, someone has recently been creating new national categories without any proposal, and most of these are appallingly small.

I don't see a proposal for the following small categories. I'd suggest deleting the categories for now, but keeping the templates to upmerge to Category:Opera singer stubs, until these actually reach a reasonable size:

The following also were not requested. Although larger, they still don't fit the 60 article minimum. Should these also be converted back to upmerged templates?

Dawynn (talk) 12:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment I believe a member of WikiProject Opera created these, although they weren't proposed or discussed there either. I can see the merits of having the sub-divisions but I personally find it a pain to keep track of so many. Apart from: {{UK-opera-singer-stub}}, {{US-opera-singer-stub}}, {{Germany-opera-singer-stub}}, {{Italy-opera-singer-stub}} (created by the stub-sorting project), I usually just use {{Opera-singer-stub}} (as do many other editors). I imagine this makes probably unnecessary work for the stub sorters. I'll leave it to members here as to what they think is best and will watch this page to let WikiProject Opera know what the outcome is. Voceditenore (talk) 09:00, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment As the creator of the cats, I appologize for creating any difficulties. I personally find having the extra sub cats by nationality useful. It prevents having to add more than one stub to an article sense it funnels into the stubs for both Category:Opera singers and Category:Singers by genre and nationality. Frankly, I found the massive list of more than 300 opera singer stubs prior to my changes useless. If a person was interested in say French opera singers, one had to weed through the list in a highly tedious manner. I would prefer to keep them, but will bow to the stub project's decision.4meter4 (talk) 09:22, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Upmerging while keeping the template seems quite reasonable to me. Finding the singers in a particular stub sub-category can still be done via looking at what links to the template. French opera singer stubs, for example, could still be found by looking at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:France-opera-singer-stub. – Voceditenore (talk) 13:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Support according to proposal. --Kslotte (talk) 17:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Encoding stubs

Only the template exists under this category. Not sure why it was built. Indicates it's for articles about encryption. The main category for that article is Category:Cryptography. There is already a Category:Cryptography stubs. Might I suggest a redirect to Category:Cryptography stubs? Dawynn (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

UPmerge and delte. Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Upmerge seems to have been done. Delete or redirect left. I propose delete. --Kslotte (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Algeria university stubs

Only the template exists under this category. Main category (Category:Universities and colleges in Algeria) only has one article. I suggest deleting the category for now, but we can keep the template as an upmerge for Category:Africa university stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Upmerge and delete Waacstats (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

{{Afghanistan-cricket-bio-stub}}

No associated category created with it. Oddly, currently filtering into Category:English cricket biography stubs. Not entirely convinced this is necessary – there are currently only 22 Afghan players who would pass WP:CRIN, which is an application of WP:ATHLETE to the cricketing world, and WP:GNG. May not hurt to leave it as a stub template that upmerges in to Category:Cricket biography stubs, though. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 22:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Apologies, I didn't realise these templates were meant to go through a process to be created, and I also didn't notice I hadn't changed English to Afghan! Which is probably a good reason for me not to have created it in the first place.. There are likely to be more Afghan cricketers passing CRIN in the next few years (I suspect there are already more than 22, once first-class players are included, though I'm not sure about that.) Harrias talk 06:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Given there are likely to be more, and the set up at Category:Cricket biography stubs; I'd also propose the creation of Category:Afghan cricket biography stubs. If not, then for the time being, an upmerge would suffice, along with Category:Afghan people stubs. Harrias talk 07:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Upmerge to Category:Cricket biography stubs and Category:Afghan people stubs atleast until we get 60. Waacstats (talk) 14:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Category:Anglican cathedral stubs

No stub template. Looks like parent Category:Anglican cathedrals may have enough (72 articles came up in my initial query, but not all may rank as "stubs") for a category. Only 8 articles in this category right now. Existing approved stub category Category:Anglican church stubs is about mid-sized (315 articles). I would personally opt for closing down this category and moving the articles found here to Category:Anglican church stubs. Dawynn (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

although we have a similar category for RC i think this would be better upmerged to anglican church stubs if we had a template. As it is delete. Waacstats (talk) 15:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

September 2010

Category:North East Scotland stubs

No direct stub template; however, it currently houses 3 upmerged stub templates, none of which are used enough to justify their own categories. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

{{Acanthizidae-stub}}/Category:Acanthizidae stubs

Created in 2008, currently 52 artiucles. I recommend keeping for now. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

{{ClevelandNeighborhood}}

Currently transcluded on 11 pages. Doesn't have an associated category; places tagged pages in Category:Cleveland, Ohio (which is unhelpful, because most of them are already in a subcategory of that). —Paul A (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

{{China-lit-stub}}

I created this template (based on {{Japan-lit-stub}}) and populated the category before realising the extent of the bureaucratic process involved in stub sorting. Anyway, here it is, it has 32 articles so far, and will surely have many more as Wikipedia covers more than the basics of Chinese literature, which is an enormous field. Inductiveload (talk) 01:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

May 2010

{{Algeria-garden-stub}} / Category:Algerian garden stubs

Found this with just the template. No articles. There is no permanent category, so hard to tell how many articles could be listed here. I have no problem with the names, but would like to see this category populated, if it wants to stick around. Dawynn (talk) 14:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

{{AfroCaribbean-stub}} / Category:Afro Caribbean stubs

Found this with just the template. No articles. No indication of the intention for this category. I would choose deleting this category. Dawynn (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

{{English-engineer-stub}} / Category:English engineer stubs

Found this with one article listed in the underpopulated list. Started adding to it, when I found that there is already a well-populated Category:United Kingdom engineer stubs. The UK category is not really needing a split yet, so I would propose deleting this category and template altogether, and moving all articles over to {{UK-engineer-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 10:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Had further thoughts on this. There is a Category:English engineers, so no reason that this one can't exist. I was able to find enough articles (I chose to stop after finding 60 -- there's several more). But, following convention, should the template be {{England-engineer-stub}}? Dawynn (talk) 11:52, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

April 2010

{{TV-Production-Company-Stub}} / Category:Television production company stubs

Oops--I made this before I proposed it...anyway, I just created it and it is similar to the {{Film-company-stub}} but is used for television production companies rather than film companies. This may seem like a very small difference, but I thought it was worth creating. So far, after I created it, I have only added it to one page, but I would imagine there are several pages I would be able to add it to. If it gets deleted, it is understandable, but just wanted to give y'all a heads up before you discovered it yourselves. Sorry about this! --Donatrip (talk) 16:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

{{Samsung-mobile-stub}} / Category:Samsung phone stubs

Found this in Wikipedia:Database reports/Uncategorized categories. Currently has 101 articles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Although I'm not sure the articles should exist, while they do I would rather them be in this category than flooding another category. Waacstats (talk) 09:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

{{Canada-mag-stub}} / Category:Canada magazine stubs

Found this as I was reviewing the magazine categories again. There are 55 articles at this point, and I'm sure more could be found. I personally would argue that Category:Canadian magazine stubs would be a better category title. Dawynn (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

support rename. Waacstats (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Template:OCriverstub / Category:Orange County river stubs

Template not named properly, overall likely too small in scope. –xenotalk 19:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Take to SFD and delete Waacstats (talk) 08:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

February 2010

Category:African cycling biography stubs

Category created for {{Africa-cycling-bio-stub}}, {{SouthAfrica-cycling-bio-stub}} and {{Zimbabwe-cycling-bio-stub}}. Only 24 articles in the category, of which just under half have been prodded. SeveroTC 18:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I think this could be deleted and the articles merged back into the cycling biogrpahy stub category. Waacstats (talk) 13:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Category:LGBT-related magazine stubs

Please review: Upmerged template already existed ({{LGBT-mag-stub}}), found 60 articles to put under it, found that there was already a category Category:LGBT-related magazines. So, I created the stub category. Dawynn (talk) 13:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Not sure the -related needs to be in there but seem to think that one of the other LGBT cats is the same. Waacstats (talk) 13:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I used related purely to keep with the parent category. Since Category:LGBT-related magazines, then Category:LGBT-related magazine stubs. Dawynn (talk) 13:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Vetting of computer-related stubs

Found these on the list of existing stubs that are on the "to be vetted" list. Please advise whether acceptable.

Biographies

Companies

Software

Dawynn (talk) 11:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I think we can keep any category with over 50 articles and the upmerged templates, the rest could probably do with some one going through the categories and seeing what can get up close to 60 and deleting what can't. Waacstats (talk) 16:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

January 2010

Category:2010s indie pop album stubs

I found this one in the list of uncategorised categories, along with its associated template Template:Pop-album-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). It appears to be an excessively narrow division of Category:Pop album stubs. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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