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4 September 2024
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Questions

Should venous thrombosis be a definition and a disambiguation to deep vein thrombosis, superficial vein thrombosis, and venous thromboembolism? Should superficial thrombophlebitis redirect to superficial vein thrombosis? Does thrombophlebitis deserve its own article? Probably more than phlebothrombosis does

Is the National Acupuncture Detoxification Association notable?

Potential secondary sources
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  • Darvall K, Bradbury A (2012). "Pathways for venous thromboembolic prophylaxis in medical and surgical patients". Phlebology. 27 Suppl 2 (2_suppl): 33–42. doi:10.1258/phleb.2012.012S36. PMID 22457303.
  • Romualdi E, Dentali F, Rancan E, Squizzato A, Steidl L, Middeldorp S; et al. (2013). "Anticoagulant therapy for venous thromboembolism during pregnancy: A systematic review and a meta-analysis of the literature". J Thromb Haemost. 11 (2): 270–81. doi:10.1111/jth.12085. PMID 23205953. {{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  • Fox BD, Kahn SR, Langleben D; et al. (2012). "Efficacy and safety of novel oral anticoagulants for treatment of acute venous thromboembolism: Direct and adjusted indirect meta-analysis of randomised controlled trials". BMJ. 345: e7498. doi:10.1136/bmj.e7498. PMC 3496553. PMID 23150473. {{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  • Greer DM, Styer AK, Toth TL; et al. (2010). "Case records of the Massachusetts General Hospital. Case 21-2010. A request for retrieval of oocytes from a 36-year-old woman with anoxic brain injury". N Engl J Med. 363 (3): 276–83. doi:10.1056/NEJMcpc1004360. PMID 20647203. {{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  • "Venous thromboembolic diseases: The management of venous thromboembolic diseases and the role of thrombophilia testing". National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence. 2012.
  • Baglin T (2012). "Inherited and acquired risk factors for venous thromboembolism". Semin Respir Crit Care Med. 33 (2): 127–37. doi:10.1055/s-0032-1311791. PMID 22648484.
  • Baglin T, Bauer K, Douketis J; et al. (2012). "Duration of anticoagulant therapy after a first episode of an unprovoked pulmonary embolus or deep vein thrombosis: guidance from the SSC of the ISTH". J Thromb Haemost. 10 (4): 698–702. doi:10.1111/j.1538-7836.2012.04662.x. PMID 22332937. {{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
Incident vs. recurrent
Vandalism on medically-related featured articles
  • [10] 37 min, 13 Feb 2012, Lung cancer.
  • [11] 54 min, 6 Mar 2012, Helicobacter pylori.
  • [12] 102 min, 7 Mar 2012, Schizophrenia.
  • [13] 91 min, 30 Mar 2012, Coeliac disease.
  • [14] 148 min, 12 April 2012, Menstrual cycle.
Miscellaneous
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Vandalism on medically-related good articles 111 min, 8 Mar 2012, Hepatitis B; Bugs: [15], [16]&[17]; Promotion; Commentary on neutrality, A good contribution: Talk:Malaria/GA2; FA advice; From a reader, a thank you; [18]; assignment[19]

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Chimele Usuwa Abengowe

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Chimele Usuwa Abengowe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Firstly, the content on ref 1 which is a magazine can't be verified by any reliable source same as ref 5. Ref 2 and ref 5 are also the same link on the article current state. The only source here was this which just only talk about his death. Ref 7 which is a YouTube video showcasing a church service cant be use as a source neither any YouTube link can be use as a source. Ref 3 which just only mentioned his name as part of the medical list and not like he was talked about. Subject just totally fails WP:GNG. Gabriel (……?) 01:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

welcome again for marking another article of mine for deletion. After the last episode, you should have recused yourself from my articles and leave other editors to go through and arrive at their own conclusions. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete: I can't verify certain details about this person like the date of birth and death. My search for the various information yielded "result not found" and I was wondering about the origin of other information like the award, OFR. After all these, I can say that the article doesn't meet WP:NPROF and WP:SIGCOV. Also, Gabriel's source analysis is thorough and well-documented. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Thelonious Bernard

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Thelonious Bernard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:NACTOR and WP:ANYBIO. He’s only appeared in one film. Although he was nominated for a Young Artist Award only once; #1 of ANYBIO states that “The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times” The Film Creator (talk) 22:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Moza Sultan Al Kaabi

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Moza Sultan Al Kaabi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't believe she meets the notability criteria, as almost all sources only mention her death in a car accident. And the page was created three days after her death. فيصل (talk) 15:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

National Cardiac Centre

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National Cardiac Centre (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bringing this here for discussion as it was moved out of AfC, but I don't think it meets N:ORG. The coverage is non neutral (beacon, transformative) which reads like pay to play vs. independent coverage required of ORGCRIT. Aware of systemic bias, but not sure this cardiac centre is notable. Star Mississippi 12:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Pediatrix Medical Group

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Pediatrix Medical Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It exists, but coverage under its current or prior name is much the same as what's in the article, churnalism and routine mentions. Nothing to approach N:ORG level Star Mississippi 20:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Indrajit Prasad

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Indrajit Prasad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not a notable scholar. The news articles in which he speaks as an expert are not about himself, they only feature comments by him about medical topics. The papers in the list of "his most cited papers" are not all that well-cited and were all primarily directed by other scholars with some collaboration by him. The creation of this article could be explained by User_talk:M.parvage#Reblocked. Badbluebus (talk) 18:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Mahmut Tolon

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Mahmut Tolon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG. Kadı Message 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Healthera

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Healthera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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it does not provide sufficient independent, reliable sources that prove the company's notability according to Wikipedia's guidelines. Loewstisch (talk) 08:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Maria Juliana

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Maria Juliana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bit part actor. Lots of social media driven puff piece, clickbait and paid placement article but fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 14:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Cryomassage

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Cryomassage (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Obviously all medical articles should be cited otherwise they could be dangerous if there are any harmful side effects Chidgk1 (talk) 18:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Redirect to cryotherapy until improved with real references, which do seem to exist. --Here2rewrite (talk) 19:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Redirect to cryotherapy. References do seem to exist however until someone can add those I think it's best to redirect until someone is willing to put in the time to gather said references. IntentionallyDense (talk) 13:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep — Meets WP:GNG although the article does need attention (but: WP:NEXIST). I added a number of references from a variety of academic sources, and reworded parts. Some claims, such as promoting "tissue regeneration", are potentially unfounded and should probably be removed. Some, like "reduc[ing] inflammation", may be accurate but a majority of sources discuss anti-inflammatory effects in the context of cryotherapy more broadly, not cryomassage specifically. Anyway, there do seem to exist enough high-quality reliable sources on this topic.
GhostOfNoMeme 12:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on whether the sources added by GhostOfNoMeme are sufficient for this to be kept?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 22:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Tumor alopecia

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Tumor alopecia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is only one source that talks about tumor alopecia and it only includes one small paragraph on the topic:

"Tumor alopecia refers to halr loss in the immediate vicinity of either benlgn or malignant tumors of the scalp. Synngomas, nerve sheath myxomas, and steatocystoma multiplex are benign tumors that may be lim~ted to the scalp and cause alopecia. Alopecia neoplastica 1s the designation glven to halr loss from metastatic tumors, most often from breast or renal carcinoma."[1]

  1. ^ James, William D.; Berger, Timothy G.; Elston, Dirk M.; Odom, Richard B. (2006). Andrews' diseases of the skin: clinical dermatology. Philadelphia: Saunders Elsevier. p. 762. ISBN 0-7216-2921-0. OCLC 62736861.

The source provided is a tertiary source I believe so this doesn't have any secondary sources covering it. Also this page reads like a dictionary definition. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 04:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath, a medical school textbook (which is what's cited there) is generally considered an ideal source in MEDRS terms.
I also wonder whether you're focusing too closely on the exact name given in that one source, when the subject (i.e., hair loss in the immediate vicinity of either benign or malignant tumors of the scalp) might have other names. One of the two sources in ==Further reading== on that page talks about "neoplasm-related alopecia" and the other is about "Alopecia due to cancer". This review calls it "Hair loss in neoplastic conditions".
It would be undesirable to delete an article about a whole subject if what it really needs is to WP:MOVE it to a different title and add some more content. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
I read over general notability guidelines and saw secondary sources and I think I may have focused too much on that. I was the one that added the further reading sources in an earlier search for some material on the topic. While the original source does distinguish tumor alopecia from Alopecia neoplastica would it be appropriate to merge the pages? I was able to expand the page Alopecia neoplastica a bit. Or possibly mention tumor alopecia on the page Alopecia and redirect there? I will search for literature regarding tumor related alopecia that’s not referred to by that name. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge with Alopecia, or perhaps move to Cancer-related hair loss and expand further? There doesn't seem to be enough to work with here to write a standalone article, and I don't think Alopecia neoplastica and Tumor alopecia need to be separate articles, but this topic definitely warrants mentioning somewhere. I think a standalone article on cancer-related hair loss (incorporating hair loss from both the disease itself and from treatments) could work, with a mention of non-cancerous tumor-induced hair loss in the main alopecia article. Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 05:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It looks like there is support here for a Merge but not agreement yet on the Merge target article. There has to be consensus on that before this discussion can be closed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Surgery

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