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Draft : Zehra Neşe Kavak[edit]

Merhaba Türkiye'de tanınmış bir rektör için yaklaşık 7 aydır bir makale yazmak ile uğraşıyorum. Fakat çeşitli şekilde sürekli bahaneler ile taslaktan çıkamıyor , yardımlarınızı bekliyorum. Saygılarımla. --Anilaydin (talk) 12:21, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Creation Reviewing[edit]

Hello, CeeGee.
AfC submissions
Random submission
2+ months
2,422 pending submissions
Purge to update

I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, AfC, which is also extremely backlogged.
Would you please consider becoming an Articles for Creation reviewer? Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia inclusion policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After requesting to be added to the project, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the reviewing instructions before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 01:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Insertcleverphrasehere: Thank you very much again for your invitation, this time for another WP task. After carefully checking the topic, I came to the conclusion that I better stay as an editor rather than to act as an AfC reviewer even though I see that there is a tremendous backlog over there. The WikiProject Turkey, where I am mainly active, is very poor in terms of article numbers (33,419 articles as of today) compared with WP GRE (37,817), WP IRI (89,980), WP ITA (53,263), WP GER (111,372), WP FRA (118,620) to name some. Please excuse me for my decision. CeeGee 09:55, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hazırlamakta olduğum bir makale[edit]

Merhaba CeeGee , olağan üstü katkılarınız ve başarılarınızı takip ediyorum. Yaptığınız katkılar Türkiye ağırlıklı olmak üzere uluslarası ölçüde ve yaptığınız iş takdir edilmekten öte olduğunu öncelikle belirtmek isterim. Üstadım yazmakta olduğum bir makale üzerine eksiklerim var mı yayına alınır mı gibi sorularım mevcut.Öğrenmeye çalıştığım bulunduğumuz platformda eksiklerim var ise yardımlarınızı istirham ediyorum. Makalesini yazdığım kişi uluslararası tanınmış ve saygıdeğer bir isimdir. Sizinde uğraşını verdiğim bu yolda katkılarınız beni onure edecektir.

Konu başlığımız : Draft:Zehra Neşe Kavak

En içten samimi dileklerim ve saygılarımla. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anilaydin (talkcontribs) 19:48, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Anilaydin: Thanks so much for your kind words. For your article in draft, I will be checking and comment to you as soon as possible. Happy editing. CeeGee 11:06, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Bu onur verici. Çok teşekkür ederim.
  • @Anilaydin: Instead of commenting, I completely rewrote the article -if you don't mind- in my way, which was easier. As I can see you did a detailed search for sources, and wrote also in detail, which is good. However, the complaint is "it is written like an advertisement". For the beginning, I recommend a shorter version with main facts using only reliable sources like nationwide newspapers. Almost all of my biography articles written like my rewriting above face no objection if the person is notable enough. You can compare your and mine version before you delete the initial portion, and retry once. Happy editing. And please do not forget to sign always your notes. Thanks. CeeGee 15:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Sizi takip etmeye ve hayranlık veren çalışmalarınızın takibine devam edeceğim. Bahsettiğiniz hatalarımı düzeltip sizin çalışmalarınızı takip ederek daha iyi bir aşama katedeceğimi düşünüyorum.Katkılarınız için çok teşekkür ederim. Bu bahsi geçen makalede benim yapabileceğim başka bir şey kalmadı sanırım. Başka çalışmalara yönelmem gerekiyor. Destekleriniz için tekrar tekrar teşekkür eder , saygılarımı sunarım.--Anilaydin (talk) 21:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks again, I am honored. Compared with other countries, Turkey-related are few. Willingly contributors like you are much needed. Your article can surely be improved later. You can also post a note to the reviewer about the new situation. Happy editing. CeeGee 04:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Geliştirmelere yönelik çalışmalarda bulunacağım , konusunda bulunduğumuz Draft:Zehra Nese Kavak adlı makale bir editör tarafındanda reddedildi. Önceki hazırlanışımda gördüğünüz üzere bir çok kaynak ve detaylı bir yazı dizisi oluşturmuştum ve yine bir ret almıştık , üzerine sizin gibi değerli bir yazarın hazırlamış olduğu yazıyada bir ret almış bulunmaktayız. Üstadım sizin bu durumlara müdahaleniz nasıl bir yol izlediğinizi takip edeceğim ve bu bana örnek teşkil edecektir. Hazırlanmakta olan makale henüz taslak pozisyonundan ana sayfaya taşınamamıştır. Sizin katkılarınız , izlediğiniz yol ve müdahalelerinizi izleyerek ilerleyen dönemlerde nasıl bir yol izlemem gerektiği hususunda davranışlarınız bana yol gösterecektir. En içten dileklerimle mutlu günler diler , saygılarımı sunarım. Konu başlığımız : Draft:Zehra Neşe Kavak AnilAydin --Anilaydin (talk) 11:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi! I noticed it. It seems that the notabikity of the person was verified by a bot. You can challenge it by contacting the reviewer and asking him to consider WP:GNG rules due to various reliable sources given by nationwide Turkish newspapers. I guess she is notable enough. Cheers. CeeGee 12:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Üstadım şu an için sadece birşeyler yazmak , kaynak eklemek gibi konuları bilmekteyim. Bu tür sorunların çözümünü nasıl aşmam gerektiği konusunda bir bilgiye sahip değilim. Eğer katkılarınız bulunursa yada bu konu hakkında hamleleriniz bu bana örnek teşkil edecektir , şayet diğer türlü araştırma yapıyorum bu epeyce vakit alıyor ve yapabileceklerimi bulamıyorum. (pratikten görmeden olayları çözemiyorum.) Ya da bu konu başlığını bırakıp başka konu başlıklarına yönelmem gerekiyor bilmiyorum , sizin gibi işin ehli birinin tavsiyeleri ve adımları benim için çok önemlidir. Sizden daha çok tavsiye edinebilmem için herhangi bir sosyal platformdan sizi takip etmem mümkünmüdür. (Bunu sormam doğru mu bilmiyorum. Saygılarımla. --Anilaydin (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Anilaydin: I applied to User:huon in his talk page. Please check it. He insists that the sources I've given are unrelieble. Weird for my POV. If you are further interested in getting it submitted, so try to add "relieble sources" for another revew. CeeGee 18:30, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Üstadım sayısız yazılarınız arasında sizi sadece bir konu için bu kadar meşgul ettiğim için öncellikle affınıza sığınıyorum. Israrımın sebebi birşeyleri çözmek zorlaştıkça işin detaylarını daha fazla ögreniyor olmam , aynı zamanda Prof. Dr. Zehra Neşe Kavak'ın makalelerde yer almasının gerekliliğini düşünmemden ötedir. Huon ile sizin konu başlığınız altından Huon ile görüşmelere devam ettim. Bildiğiniz üzere sizin belirttiğiniz kaynaklar Türkiye için büyük yayın kanallarıdır. Bende nacizane bir şekilde bir kaç kaynak ve biraz bilgi ekledim. Bunun uygunlugunu Huon ile iştişare etmekteyim. Huon un ısrarını ve kabul etmeyişini bende anlamamaktayım. Makaleye uygun vaktinizde göz atabilirseniz çok sevinirim. Saygılarımla.--Anilaydin (talk) 15:27, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see the situation. Please follow the hints on the bottom of the warn tag of the darft article like "Find sources" etc for searching more reliable sources to meet the requirements mentioned by Huon. In the beginning it can be sometimes troublesome. CeeGee 17:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Üstadım Huon'un tartışma konularını inceledim genellikle baktığımız zaman kişilerin sorunlarına çözüm odaklı yaklaşımını farkettim . Bunun dışında çok sayıda makale inceledim incelediğim makalelerde sizin katkılarınızın bulunduğu değişimini yaptığınız makalenin incelediklerimle aralarında çok büyük farklar var. Çok sayıda referansı güçsüz yazımı kötü makaleler yayında bunu göz önüne alırsak sizin hazırladığınız makale kesinlikle yine sizin ustalığınız olduğu besbelli. Bunlarıda göz önüne alırsak aslında yayına alınmaması için hiç bir gerekçe yoktur. Yeni kaynaklar ekledim huon'la konuşmalarımız devam ediyor. Yaklaşımı reddedici ve bir hayli soğuk. Kendisinin bir Alman uyruklu olmasının ve Türk'ler ile bir ırkçılık sezmekteyim. Çünkü yaklaşımı herkese olduğu gibi çözüm odaklı değil ve konuyu epey uzatmaya meyilli. Diğer en.wikipedia makalelerinide göz önüne alırsak bence yetersiz bir makale değil. Bu konuyu çözmeyi çok istemekteyim benim için adeta bir hedef konusu oldu. Sizin gibi değerli bir yazardan bu konuyla alakalı katkılarınızın devamını diliyorum. Saygılarımla. --Anilaydin (talk) 22:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hisarüstü - Aşiyan ve Seyrantepe - Vadistanbul Füniküler Hatları[edit]

Merhaba CeeGee. Müsait olduğunuz bir vakitte aşağıdaki hatların ingilizce sayfalarını oluşturabilir misiniz? Teşekkürler, kolay gelsin.

http://www.metro.istanbul/media/113898/istanbul-ulaisim-ag-haritasi.jpg Lpxl (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Lpxl: Thank you for the invitation. However, I am very busy with some other articles, and as I can see from your "Contributions"-log that you are familiar with transportation topics. Maybe you can call Central Data Bank. Cheers. CeeGee 18:22, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@CeeGee: I would be glad to help out with those pages! I will get to it in a day or two! Cheers! (Central Data Bank (talk) 18:39, 3 January 2018 (UTC))[reply]

DYK nomination of Ramize Erer[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Ramize Erer at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Precious four years![edit]

Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ramize Erer[edit]

On 14 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ramize Erer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ramize Erer said that when she published a cartoon of a masturbating girl, "all hell broke loose"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ramize Erer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ramize Erer), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:01, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ramize Erer[edit]

On 14 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ramize Erer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ramize Erer said that when she published a cartoon of a masturbating girl, "all hell broke loose"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ramize Erer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ramize Erer), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:01, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Turkish National Contest[edit]

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I thought you might have been interested in the prospect of a contest for Turkey?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am not uninterested. However, I try to understand what the purpose is. In the first look, it seems to me a very high goal. I am not sure if we can continue when we start. You know that we are three or four at all. Give me please a little bit time. I appreciate your efforts anyway. CeeGee 20:00, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Done

Category:Armenian people from Istanbul has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Revert[edit]

Conway's All The World's Fighting Ships 1922–1946 (p. 408) is explicit that both Alilay and Salidray were built by Germaniawerft. Only Yildiary was built in Turkey, to the German design. This is backed up by Jane's Fighting Ships of World War II.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:03, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've posted a note to you at yoır talk page. CeeGee 16:07, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Koyunbaba Bridge[edit]

On 20 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Koyunbaba Bridge, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Koyunbaba Bridge is the longest stone arch bridge in Anatolia built during the Ottoman Empire? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Koyunbaba Bridge. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Koyunbaba Bridge), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Mehmet Çekiç[edit]

On 21 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mehmet Çekiç, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that para-alpine skier Mehmet Çekiç has twice been flag bearer for Turkey at the Paralympics? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mehmet Çekiç. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mehmet Çekiç), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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A Barnstar for you![edit]

The "Did You Know...?" Reviewer's Barnstar
Thank you for your work in evaluating articles that are submitted for review so they can be mentioned in the DYK section of Wikipedia’s Main Page. I have often wondered why reviewers often don't get accolades for their work since they often put in as much time as those who improve content. The effort needed to participate in this area of Wikipedia is significant. I don't think most other editors realize what a service you are doing to help showcase new, expanded or recently promoted GA articles. What you do provides an incentive for new and experienced editors to continue improvement and creation of content. I find my curiosity piqued by the DYKs. You do a great job and help me gain insight into the range of topics that Wikipedia covers. You’ve put in the time and effort to improve content and therefore deserve recognition and appreciation.
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DYK for Tosun (construction equipment)[edit]

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DYK for Ayşe Sinirlioğlu[edit]

Would you be willing to add "a woman" before Ambassador or after the name? I looked at the nomination and the article and am ready to state that it meets all the criteria. I do think it would be a little more interesting hook with the addition but I don't think it is so brilliant that I want to push that. If you disagree, I am still willing to state that it meets all the criteria. I thought it might be easier and perhaps faster to contact you directly rather than add this to the nomination review and then have to go back and add more. Besides, it seems to make it give more flexibility since I do not have a firm position on the alternative. I will be signing off in a few minutes but should be back online within 18 hours or so, not that there is supposed to be any rush. Yet, the item has been up for over a month and I am sure you would like to have someone review it soon. And if someone gets in ahead of me in the next several hours, it would be just as well to move it along. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 08:37, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Done Thanks a lot for your above message, it is very kind of you. Your suggestion was realized. CeeGee 09:51, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick response. I have put my review on the template and checked it as good to go. Donner60 (talk) 19:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to sign my review but have done so now. I hope the short delay in completing the review by signing it won't matter much in the scheme of things. Sorry for the omission. Donner60 (talk) 05:10, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zehra Say[edit]

Hi CeeGee. On an edit you made to the page Zehra Say you changed "Fuar Evlendirme Dairesi" to Izmir International Fair. Are you sure that this is the same thing? It seems off to me. Regards --GlobalSecretary (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please check [1]. If you are sure it is still incorrect, I can revert my edit. CeeGee 18:43, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you are right, I thought the fair was a temporary event however it is also the name of the place. I agree with your edit. You may have noticed that the article is also up for deletion on notability grounds however i believe that notability has been established beyond any reasonable doubt. Do you agree? Regards--GlobalSecretary (talk) 19:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for your agreement. I added now a reliable source to the article. CeeGee 08:09, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The page may have the potential to be a DYK, i'm still thinking about that possibility.--GlobalSecretary (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see. First of all, the head tag for AfD nomination has to be removed after a consensus has been done. Besides, I for myself nominate only articles for DYK I created or expanded at least 5x. If you are willing to do it by yourself, and need assistance, I will be happy to do so. A last point: As you contribute continuously, I propose you to create your own user space for further work. CeeGee 18:09, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks! I will follow your suggestions and contact you if I need assistance.--GlobalSecretary (talk) 21:19, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Ayşe Sinirlioğlu[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Ayşe Sinirlioğlu at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 10:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dilara Özlem Sucuoğlu[edit]

On 9 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dilara Özlem Sucuoğlu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Turkish international Dilara Özlem Sucuoğlu started to play football in Germany at the age of five inspired by her father, a football coach? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dilara Özlem Sucuoğlu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dilara Özlem Sucuoğlu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. When the Turkish censors try to justify their actions then articles like this will make their arguments more difficult. (IMO). Victuallers (talk) 06:58, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ayşe Sinirlioğlu[edit]

On 10 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ayşe Sinirlioğlu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the woman ambassador Ayşe Sinirlioğlu was Turkey's sherpa to the G20? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ayşe Sinirlioğlu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ayşe Sinirlioğlu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Zerzevan Castle[edit]

On 13 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zerzevan Castle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an underground temple of Mithraism was discovered inside Zerzevan Castle during archaeological excavations? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zerzevan Castle. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zerzevan Castle), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for May 14[edit]

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DYK for Hilmi Esat Bayındırlı[edit]

On 17 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hilmi Esat Bayındırlı, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that para-alpine skier H. E. Bayındırlı twice took part in the Winter Paralympic Games, representing the United States in 2006 and Turkey in 2014? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hilmi Esat Bayındırlı. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hilmi Esat Bayındırlı), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Zehra Borazancı[edit]

On 25 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zehra Borazancı, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Turkish-Cypriot women's footballer Zehra Borazancı has played international football tennis for her country? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zehra Borazancı. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zehra Borazancı), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red June Editathons[edit]

Welcome to Women in Red's June 2018 worldwide online editathons.



New: WiR Loves Pride

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You have been awarded the Category Barnstar![edit]

The Category Barnstar
I award you the category barnstar for your great work in improving Turkey related articles by managing the categories on these articles which include over 50 articles created by me. Thanks!GlobalSecretary (talk) 18:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


You have been awarded the Copyedit Barnstar![edit]

Copy Editor's Barnstar
I award you this Copy Editor's Barnstar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. Thank you for copy editing over 50 of my articles! You do a great job! GlobalSecretary (talk) 18:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Güzide Alçu[edit]

On 6 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Güzide Alçu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Güzide Alçu and her two teammates were referred to the disciplinary board for displaying V signs that were interpreted by the Turkish Football Federation as insulting? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Güzide Alçu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Güzide Alçu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 03:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:42, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı[edit]

On 18 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that junior Turkish aerobic gymnast Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı is nicknamed "Medal Monster" due to the many medals she has won? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ayşe Begüm Onbaşı), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to participate in study[edit]

Hello,

I am E. Whittaker, an intern at Wikimedia with the Scoring Team to create a labeled dataset, and potentially a tool, to help editors deal with incivility when they encounter it on talk pages. A full write-up of the study can be found here: m:Research:Civil_Behavior_Interviews. We are currently recruiting editors to be interviewed about their experiences with incivility on talk pages. Would you be interested in being interviewed? I am contacting you because of your involvement in Wikipedia’s Women in Red project. The interviews should take ~1 hour, and will be conducted over BlueJeans (which does allow interviews to be recorded). If, so, please email me at ewhit@umich.edu in order to schedule an interview.

Thank you Ewitch51 (talk) 20:42, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

July 2018 at Women in Red[edit]

Hello again from Women in Red!


July 2018 worldwide online editathons:
New: Sub-Saharan Africa Film + stage 20th-century Women Rock
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DYK for Lena Erdil[edit]

On 3 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lena Erdil, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that international windsurfing champion Lena Erdil is the daughter of a Turkish father and a German mother, who met each other while windsurfing? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lena Erdil. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lena Erdil), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Çorlu train derailment[edit]

On 10 July 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Çorlu train derailment, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Zanhe (talk) 07:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Tuluhan Tekelioğlu[edit]

On 20 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tuluhan Tekelioğlu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Tuluhan Tekelioğlu made a documentary film on organ transplantation while her father was undergoing and recovering from bypass surgery in a hospital in Antalya? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tuluhan Tekelioğlu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tuluhan Tekelioğlu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

August 2018 at Women in Red[edit]

An exciting new month for Women in Red!


August 2018 worldwide online editathons:
New: Indigenous women Women of marginalized populations Women writers Geofocus: Bottom 10
Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative
Notable women, broadly-construed!



For the first time, this month we are trying out our Monthly achievement initiative

  • All creators of new biographies can keep track of their progress and earn virtual awards.
  • It can be used in conjunction with the above editathons or for any women's biography created in August.
  • Try it out when you create your first biography of the month.

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Hi there, CeeGee. Thanks for İsmet Kür. You'll see I've added it to our WiR Monthly achievement initiative page. Hope that's OK with you.--Ipigott (talk) 15:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Images[edit]

Hi CeeGee! Thanks for adding new images to several railway station articles in Thrace. I would like to ask you that when you change the image, please move the former image to a gallery section within the article, instead of just removing it completely. The more images the better! Hope all is well. (Central Data Bank (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2018 (UTC))[reply]

  • Sure. As soon as the former image is visible relevant to the station it can be added in a gallery. CeeGee 05:26, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mor Yakup Church[edit]

On 12 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mor Yakup Church, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Church of Saint Jacob in Nisibis in southeastern Turkey was originally the baptistery of a Syriac Orthodox cathedral which no longer exists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mor Yakup Church. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mor Yakup Church), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for İsmet Kür[edit]

On 23 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article İsmet Kür, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the writer İsmet Kür's father and sister were writers, and her daughter is also a writer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/İsmet Kür. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, İsmet Kür), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018 at Women in Red[edit]

September is an exciting new month for Women in Red's worldwide online editathons!



New: Women currently in academics Women + Law Geofocus: Hispanic countries

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

Check it out: Monthly achievement initiative

  • All creators of new biographies can keep track of their progress and earn virtual awards.
  • It can be used in conjunction with the above editathons or for any women's biography created in September.
  • Try it out when you create your first biography of the month.

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DYK nomination of Hamdi Kayapınar[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Hamdi Kayapınar at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hamdi Kayapınar[edit]

On 7 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hamdi Kayapınar, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first victim of the Turkish serial killer Hamdi Kayapınar was his sibling? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hamdi Kayapınar. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hamdi Kayapınar), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

October 2018 at Women in Red[edit]

Please join us... We have four new topics for Women in Red's worldwide online editathons in October!



New: Clubs Science fiction + fantasy STEM The Mediterranean

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

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DYK for Türkan Rado[edit]

On 11 October 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Türkan Rado, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Türkan Rado was the first female professor of law in Turkey? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Türkan Rado. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Türkan Rado), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Editor's Barnstar
Great job getting Türkan Rado to the Main Page! Very interesting article. Keep up the great work with Turkey-related articles. Happy editing! MX () 13:12, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Get ready for November with Women in Red![edit]

Three new topics for WiR's online editathons in November, two of them supporting other initiatives



New: Religion Deceased politicians Asia

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Nomination of World Amateur Body Building Association for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article World Amateur Body Building Association is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World Amateur Body Building Association until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:01, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TCG Burgazada (F-513)[edit]

Merhabalar CeeGee. Katkılarınız için teşekkürler. Müsait olduğunuz bir zamanda TCG Burgazada (F-513) başlığını açabilir misiniz. Gemi bugün hizmete girecek

https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/turkiye/burgazada-hosgeldin/1302258

Lpxl (talk) 08:51, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2018 election voter message[edit]

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December 2018 at Women in Red[edit]

The WiR December editathons provide something for everyone.



New: Photography Laureates Countries beginning with 'I'

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

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DYK for Benal Nevzat İstar Arıman[edit]

On 5 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Benal Nevzat İstar Arıman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Benal Nevzat İstar Arıman was elected in 1935 into the Grand National Assembly of Turkey as one of its first women members? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Benal Nevzat İstar Arıman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Benal Nevzat İstar Arıman), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 12:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fatih (drillship)[edit]

On 8 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fatih (drillship), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fatih, originally named Deepsea Metro II, is Turkey's first drillship? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fatih (drillship). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fatih (drillship)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ankara train collision[edit]

I've nominated the article to appear on the main page as part of "In The News". Nomination at WP:ITNC. Are you up to writing an article for the Turkish Wikipedia. Appreciate that Wikipedia is banned in Turkey, but you appear to be outside Turkey so should be able to edit. Mjroots (talk) 14:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjroots: Thanks so much for your nomination of the article at WP:ITNC. I am interested in writing only in WP:en. I am not active in WP:tr, even though I am Turkish, or in WP:de I am fluent in German. Although I live in Turkey, I am able to write in every WP due to a special preferece granted to me. So, I rather expect that someone other create the article you asked in WP:tr. Thanks again and cheers. CeeGee 14:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Ankara train collision[edit]

On 15 December 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ankara train collision, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Mjroots (talk) 12:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ankara train collision[edit]

Hi CeeGee! Just wanted let you know why I moved the Ankara train collision to the Istanbul-Ankara HSR instead. The accident happened on the Istanbul-Ankara HSR, not the Polatli-Konya HSR. However if the link stays on the Polatli-Konya HSR, I don't really see a problem with it. Anyway, best regards!

--Central Data Bank (talk) 10:45, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Central Data Bank: The Ankara-Istanbul HSR left Ankara train station at 06:10 that day and passed Marşandiz station without any problem.[2] CeeGee 11:36, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@CeeGee: The Ankara-Istanbul HSR and Polatli-Konya HSR are railway lines, not railway services. YHT (Yüksek Hizli Tren) is the railway service. The crash happened on the Ankara-Istanbul HSR since the Polatli-Konya HSR begins at Polatli not Ankara.
  • The fact is that the train was bound to Konya and not to Istanbul. We may have mixed the service with the line. However, as someone with deep rail knowledge, you may fix the articles in correct way. CeeGee 18:31, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

--Central Data Bank (talk) 18:21, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

January 2019 at Women in Red[edit]

January 2019, Volume 5, Issue 1, Numbers 104-108


Happy New Year from Women in Red! Please join us for these virtual editathons.

January events: Women of War and Peace Play!

January geofocus: Caucasus

New, year-long initiative: Suffrage

Continuing global initiative: #1day1woman2019

Help us plan our future events: Ideas Cafe

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