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Restoration of Daniel Leadbitter

Hi Jimbo. My article Daniel Leadbitter was rightly deleted a few months ago as he had not made any professional appearances at that time. However, last week he played against Bradford in League 2, so would satisfy notability criteria. I was wondering if you could please restore the deleted page? I've left a message at WikiProject Football but no-one has answered yet.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,

Drawley (talk) 16:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

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Nico Yennaris

I removed your speedy from this article as he has now made his first-team debut in the League Cup and this has, in the past, been enough to pass AfD. As it was a recent debut I believe this invalidates the rather old AfD. I will admit that I've not been on Wikipedia much over the last few months so consensus may have changed and I may not be aware of it. If that is the case please show me where it was discussed and I will restore the A7 with appropriate comment. Dpmuk (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Ben Wheelhouse and Bob Mauchline

Why have you reverted my edits relating to these articles. The Joyce source does not indicate the years they were at the clubs, only the seasons in which they played League football. Also, you have included that Wheelhouse was born in Rothwell, Yorkshire but the source does not indicate this. If you have additional sources which confirm these facts then please add them to the article. Eldumpo (talk) 12:11, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

WP:POINTY. --Jimbo^[online] 12:34, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I was hoping for an explanation rather than just posting a link to Pointy, which is not the issue. Can you indicate why you want unsourced information on player years at clubs to remain, rather than have question marks letting the reader know we are not sure of the dates? Eldumpo (talk) 21:17, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

RE th on Dates

Seems really petty to have a message regarding the dates, why does someone use 30 October and NOT 30th October, when in reality most people would use 30th October?

Daniel J Green

Hi Jimbo, I have changed Danny's youth club to Ipswich Town, I am his brother and can asure it was not Northampton Town. Scott Green — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.216.128 (talk) 14:59, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Where is the reliable source that he was at Northampton? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.216.128 (talk) 15:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

If you say that you are his brother and you know it, instead of using your own knowledge and editing Wikipedia with it why don't you provide a source with it, since there is no way to verify it and no one can know for sure you are really his brother, plus it would violate Wikipedia's no original research policy.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa¹²³|UPage|_☺★ (talk) 09:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Deletion review for 2011–12 Hannover 96 Season

There is a deletion review here. Kingjeff (talk) 23:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Date of birth

I guess things have changed and I didn't notice that details are now put in intro and no longer kept for the Early life section. Funny that. Seems repetitive to me, but thanks for the headsup with links. Manytexts (talk) 11:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Although I note this in MOS:BIO "the vital year range can be sufficient to provide context in some cases" which is how I viewed it until now. Manytexts (talk) 11:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

So true. :) Collaboration is vital - Manytexts (talk) 11:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Jak Alnwick

Hi. I have declined your speedy deletion request at Jak Alnwick because, although the article has been deleted by discussion before, that was in June 2010 and the main reason for deletion was that he had not played professionally at the time. Since then, he has apparently made professional appearances for Gateshead, and so the situation has materially changed - at WP:CSD it says about reason G4: "This excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies..." -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Caps

Hi Jimbo, did not realise that rule, I have corrected them now MRPRO03 (talk) 16:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Rubén Miño

Hi there JIMBO, VASCO here,

in this case my man, you are not correct, "honestest" of truths. At least (at least!) Portuguese and Spanish youth players can and in fact ARE loaned (just have a quick look at the period of the occurrence, 2004-06, player was 15-17 years old). Please leave User:Raulseixas' version be.

Attentively, happy 2012 - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

• Indeed he did exaggerate greatly on those edit summaries. I have already asked him to be more sympathetic with well-intended users such as yourself, seemingly to no avail. --Vasco Amaral (talk) 23:43, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Forgive me

Man, accept my sincere apology for the offenses. I do not want fights with anyone. Forgive me. Good week! (talk) 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Brown

Four references aren't enough for what? --Dweller (talk) 14:56, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Harrison Chatting

I had already Proded Chatting. I removed your Prod and put the article up for AfD. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harrison Chatting. Bgwhite (talk) 20:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

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Cameron Howieson

The above article is now at AfD see here, just thought I'd inform you as you originally PRODed it before it was contested by an IP. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 11:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks Jimbo,

Someone else has deleted it before I have had chance to add any citations/links...whilst I agree that he doesn't fulfil some of the criteria, there is extensive media coverage proving his place as a "professional footballer". I have emailed the person who has since deleted it and asked them to restore it so that I can get the information off but am not really sure how this works. It has been suggested that I re-do the page in a "myspace" and then ask contributors to help me finish before I publish...is this something you may be able to assist with as you seem incredibly proficient and upto date with all of this. I struggled with the coding to cite references and don't have the text I wrote to hand so could do with it being restored so I can copy it onto an offline page and then delete the on-line version.

Your help and advice is much appreciated.

Regards

(Sreilly84 (talk) 14:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC))

James Mulley

Um, any reason why you've removed all mentions of Wealdstone, when it's referenced? GiantSnowman 12:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, thought it was very out of character - oh well, no harm done. GiantSnowman 12:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Jeffrey Christiaens

Obviously he made a competitive appearance. But the point is, in what circumstances did he join the club?! You initially put in the infobox that it was a loan, it could be false as there no sources that can confirm that. Now you put it as if he joined the club that wasn't a loan aka permanent transfer, but that's most likely false as well (since he's back with his club in Belgium) and there are NO SOURCES for that either. The only thing that is known is that he did make a competitive appearance. As far as I'm concerned, since there are no sources which say what type of deal was in place which saw him play for Global FC, it could also be assumed that he played for them under dubious circumstances. Therefore its safer and perhaps even more neutral to leave it out of the infobox and just have it in the prose about his appearance for Global FC (which I already did). Banana Fingers (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Infoboxes are there to represent a player's career, he would have had to have been registered with the club to play in such a competitive fixture. It's similar to the A Trialist situation in Scotland. --Jimbo^[online] 16:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Robbie Willmott

Hi,

I am talking on behalf of 2MB Football Agency, we are just wondering the reason as to why you removed the information about Robbie? We are simply keeping the information about Robbie up to date!

Thank you

2MB ISM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2mbism (talk • contribs) 16:20, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

That information is nothing to do with an Encyclopaedic entry, it brings nothing to the article except for promotion of this agency. See WP:NOT and WP:COI. Thanks, --Jimbo^[online] 00:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

It isn't promotion, it is a fact. He is contracted to the agency, as he is contracted to a football club

2mbism (talk) 08:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Details of his agent(s) do not add anything significant to their careers. --Jimbo^[online] 12:36, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Billy Lobjoit and Mauro Vilhete

The same question also regarding Billy and Mauro

Thank you

2MB ISM

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Rubén Miño

Sorry for my edit in this player's article, thought it was done that way. We'll leave it as you say then.

Keep up the good work Jimbo - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 14:38, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

GB Olympic football team

Why was all of Great Britain team information I updated for the players edited back by you? Now it no longer has Great Britain in the national teams that the player has played for.

Okay, I'll update it after the match against Brazil on the 20th of July, and subsequently on every match after that.

Sebi608 (talk) 17:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Tyson Fury

Please edit the wiki page as he states he is Irish and not British and fights under the Irish Flag. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmHjEeD-P78 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKsQm-ZvC-U

See WP:RS. --Jimbo^[online] 18:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

How is this video of Tyson himself on the flesh declaring that he is "Irish and an Irish boxer" not credible?

Please amend the wiki page to reflect this credible information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc1807 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

He was born in England, raised in the England and held the British title. Thus being described as British with Irish heritage. Makes sense. --Jimbo^[online] 18:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense is not credible enough. The man in question who the wiki page is about actually states he is Irish and an Irish boxer therefore please amend the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc1807 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

The facts are there in print, that's how it's credible and makes sense. --Jimbo^[online] 19:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

00.48 in the second video he states that he fights under the Irish flag. 1.37 the man in question states that he is Irish and he has the documents to prove it. Please amend this wiki page accordingly. Thanks, JC1807 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc1807 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Born in Manchester, that's in England. See Tyson Fury#Background. --Jimbo^[online] 20:32, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Your pint is not valid and not credible. He has stated he is Irish and has the documents now to prove it. Your point proves the fact wiki is not credible and considering it states even on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dereck_Chisora that he is british having been born in Africa and "moved" to England that he is now british?

Please amend the page accordingly jc1807 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc1807 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

It's called naturalization. How is the fact he was born and lives in England not credible? --Jimbo^[online] 20:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

ryan woods

Hello, just another message regarding the possible deletion of my page on Ryan woods.

I understand the reasons for possible deletion, but he IS a first team player for a league one side, whereas there are profiles of unknown lower league players still there, yet they have not made a "professional appearance" as that isn't pro footbsll.

I feel that for this season at least the profile should remain as for this season he is apart of the first team squad.

Like I say o understand your reasoning .... we don't want to end up with loads of unheard of players like Dean Holness ;);) Dream team was brilliant BTW!

Forgive if you feel I'm being pedantic. I have no issue with you, jimbo

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WP:YEAR

You're right, it has nothing to do with seasons - it's a simple date range covering the calendar years in which he was at the club. WP:YEAR is pretty clear that the closing year has two digits in such cases. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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OK, cool, I mean if there's a good reason for it then fair enough. However, I can't imagine anyone wanting to change them all in any case ;) Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Ryan-Zico Black

I see you have removed the stats for this player for last season. I can work out which ones were cup and league, if I put it back with the cup competitions ones removed would you or someone else then edit it? I had forgotten cup matches did not count when tallying them up.

EDIT I have just seen that if you look at this page, http://www.guernseyfc.com/matches-fixtures-and-results it shows which are league and up appearanes. So if I just put league matches I should be OK? (GsyFootball (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC))

If you can prove which (league) games he played in. --Jimbo^[online] 22:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The website shows the appearances for all matches inc. Cup games, on the fixtures and results page it shows the competition. I have subtracted the cup games, will that suffice? For the record I did not make the last change that you correctly undid. I have now updated the page, if I need to improve it further please advise how, rather than just undo my changes please. thanks. I have also started a discusion on the talk page for that article.(GsyFootball (talk) 07:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC))

Katie Taylor Personal Information

Hi Jimbo, Just wondering why the personal information about irish boxer Katie Taylor has been removed? The information it contained seemed to be fairly accurate. Not trying to be critical but just curious. Thanks, 2.25.22.251 (talk) 10:27, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It was entirely unverified. As noted in the edit summary, see WP:V and WP:CS]. --Jimbo^[online] 22:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Dylan McGeouch

I was not signed in and edited his page, and you reversed the edit. I put it back.

I was in attendance at the game and witnessed him lose consciousness. One of the scariest moments of my life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanDiamond (talk • contribs) 05:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Darryl roach

Hey jimbo, when you have a chance could you add a image for Darryl roach the footballer. If you insert his name in google Darryl roach port Melbourne sharks A few images come up including a decent headshot. Here's a link of a image of the player http://www.footballzz.com/jogador.php?id=202205

Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footiemad1234 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

These images aren't free though and cannot be used. See WP:NFC. Thanks, --Jimbo^[online] 13:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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Michael Hector

I just decided to roll back everything edited into that article from today. It was such a mess I thought that would be easier. While I was sorting that out, you edited, and got caught up in mine. Sorry about that! GedUK  12:53, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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2015-16 Heart of Midlothian Season

Hi. Nothing major but when you add a players destination club to a season article could you ensure you add a source. Im trying to keep this article heavily sourced and verifiable. It may seem a bit petty but its really important.Blethering Scot 19:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

I try & keep links that are likely to be notable, however I agree Hutchings probably won't be. One of the red links in article would already meet notability criteria I just don't have time to create it. Blethering Scot 16:49, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain Crystal covers article content not red links.Blethering Scot 15:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Wrong two of the links would be considered notable now. Secondly it's a guideline not a policy and it states if it is plausible they could support an article they should remain. It is highly plausible considering two red links already are. This is hardly something worth debating as is really a non issue. Sourcing however was an issue. You are still to add a source to your addition re Jake Hutchings. Blethering Scot 14:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Have you actually read what the guideline says. Note guideline. I find this highly petty because i asked you to find a source for an edit you made. Yes it was difficult to find a source but had you bothered one bit you could of found it on the 14th. Instead u decided to be petty and it remained unsourced until the 26th October when I found one myself.Blethering Scot 22:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Your an absolute plonker. WP:Footy has nothing to do with redlinks not a thing. Blethering Scot 22:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I couldn't be bothered to find a source after your song and dance about it, although "Jake Hutchings" Enfield pulls up a fair few reliable sources. You probably should have done that in the first place. No, but it will give a wide consensus from editors within a relevant taskforce to see what it deemed the correct way. You should probably refrain from personal attacks in the future as well, Rodney. --Jimbo^[online] 22:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)