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September 2021
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Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Cafe moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Cafe, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Maniik 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. 04:24, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Hey thank you I was going to do that this morning I just didn’t have time to do a whole lot with the article last night because of how late it was Kaleeb18 (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- You created Space 220 Restaurant as a draft and then moved it into mainspace. In my opinion, it is at risk of being nominated at Articles for Deletion to be deleted because the refs do not meet Wikipedia's requirements for independent, reliable source refs (the refs are all Disney or blogs). I am not going to nominate it at AfD. There is a possibility that the New Pages Patrol reviewers will decide to kick it back to draft or start a deletion process because of the refs weakness.
Situation similar for Pecos, in that you created it in mainspace. However, Lazy Maniik moved it to draft. All the refs are Disney. It is essential that you find non-Disney, non-blog refs, or the article will not be accepted. David notMD (talk) 12:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
I was going to move it to a draft and the only there are like only five articles about Tokyo Disneyland’s Pecos bill Kaleeb18 (talk) 12:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Quality of refs over quantity. What is needed is perhaps a write-up in one or more Florida newspapers, and for Tokyo, Japanese newspapers (ha!). David notMD (talk) 13:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- I added a Submit template. If you think it is ready, submit it. In time (as short as days, as long as two months) a reviewer will either accept or decline the draft. If the latter, reasons will be given. Next step then is to address the shortfalls and resubmit. David notMD (talk) 13:37, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Looks like you took an image from Tom Bricker's blog and added it to the draft. That is an illegal copyright infringement. Only the photographer can decide to add a photograph to Wikipedia. I strongly recommend you remove the photo. Wikipedia is adamant that copyright infringement is forbidden. David notMD (talk) 13:44, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- I added a Submit template. If you think it is ready, submit it. In time (as short as days, as long as two months) a reviewer will either accept or decline the draft. If the latter, reasons will be given. Next step then is to address the shortfalls and resubmit. David notMD (talk) 13:37, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
@David notMD Tom Bricker says that he is fine with it. In fact his exact words are,”Many photographers ardently attempt to prevent others from using their images. That is not my philosophy towards photography. I began taking photos with the purpose of sharing them with others, and my goal always has been to make as many people happy through my Disney photos as possible.
I welcome and encourage others to download my photos for their personal use, to share my photos on social networks like Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, and Google+, or on their non-commercial blogs or websites. There is no charge for such usage and you do not need prior approval from me. In fact, I would like to thank you if you share my photos!”
I also want to ask if the tripadvisor article i added to the draft is a good reference
Kaleeb18 (talk) 16:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- An email from Tom Bricker to you, approving use of photos he has posted on his blog, is not sufficient for Wikipedia to allow these photos at Wikipedia. The reason: at the bottom of his blog is "Disney Tourist Blog Copyright © 2021." If Bricker wants his Pecos Bill photos used at Wikipedia, the simple path is for him to create a Wikipedia account, and then go to Wikipedia Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and use the Contributing your own work, Step 4, "Upload Wizard" to add photos. Doing that gives permission to anyone, anywhere, to use uploaded photos for any purpose. Basically, voids copyright. You would then be able to use photos Bricker created at Wikipedia articles. By the way, same process applies for you to upload and use photos you take. David notMD (talk) 11:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Be aware that the Bricker photos you added to Space 220 Restaurant are nominated for removal. There are instructions there for Bricker to renounce his copyright of these photos. If he does not do this quickly, the photos will be removed. David notMD (talk) 11:24, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
@David notMD I didn’t get an email from him that’s what it says on his website. I’ll remove the photo for the time being. I still would like for you to look at the TripAdvisor reference on the Pecos bill draft to see if that is a good reference. Kaleeb18 (talk) 12:42, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- FYI - The Space 220 photos from Bricker will be removed soon unless you contact him via his blog and ask him to go to Wikimedia Commons, and there to permit each photo to be used. David notMD (talk) 16:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Ref #4, which you created as "TripAdvisor" is to the DisneyFoodBlog. It does not mention TripAdvisor, nor provide a 'star' rating. Even if to the TripAdvisor website, restaurant reviews are user-generated averages, and thus cannot be used to provide a rating. David notMD (talk) 16:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
I fixed the trip advisor reference does that look good now. I also don’t think I’ll be able to contact Tom Bricker so I guess those pic are gone idk maybe I can. Kaleeb18 (talk) 17:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- I am willing to guess that Bricker will not either post directly or approve. If his blog states allowing use by "non-commercial blogs or websites", that is not the same as allowing use at Wikipedia, because the latter means that anyone, including businesses, can use the images. David notMD (talk) 20:10, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
October 2021
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Space 220 Restaurant. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
- If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
- If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.
Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 23:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Sorry I try not to make edits like that. I just got frustrated and I shouldn't have. I will try better on the rest of my edits. And if you could look at Draft:Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Cafe and tell me what could be added or what could be changed that would much appreciated. I will try my best not to get frustrated and make disruptive edits sorry Kaleeb18 (talk) 00:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Kaleeb18
- Along the lines of allowed versus not allowed, with a few exceptions, you are allowed to delete content from your Talk page, but not other editor's Talk pages. Be aware that even if you delete content from your Talk page, other editors can find it by looking at your Contributions. David notMD (talk) 12:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Congrats on getting an article approved. I can guess that it was frustrating to see so much of your work deleted from the article. Think of that as a learning experience for what does and does not belong in an encyclopedia. David notMD (talk) 12:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Along the lines of allowed versus not allowed, with a few exceptions, you are allowed to delete content from your Talk page, but not other editor's Talk pages. Be aware that even if you delete content from your Talk page, other editors can find it by looking at your Contributions. David notMD (talk) 12:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
It definitely was a big learning experience and thanks for all the help Kaleeb18 (talk) 12:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in Let's Go Brandon (Loza Alexander song), disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. CodeTalker (talk) 16:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
@CodeTalker: Can you please tell me where I deviated from the style in the article? Kaleeb18 (talk) 17:20, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Oh wait nvm you talking about the f word thing Kaleeb18 (talk)
- Yes, please read WP:NOTCENSORED. We do not bowdlerize language, especially in direct quotations, simply because some subset of readers may find the language objectionable. Wikipedia's purpose is to provide information, not to deliberately make it harder for the reader to understand what is meant. Thanks! CodeTalker (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | ||
Thank you for your contributions The Tips of Apmh (talk) 01:59, 12 October 2021 (UTC) |
Tool
Hello Kaleeb! I originally came here to suggest that you try the tool Twinkle because some of the templates you have on your userpage that you want to remember are included in Twinkle, however seeing the above makes me have to say that if you do think you'd find Twinkle helpful in adding maintenance templates (templates such as {{one source}} are maintenance templates) to be cautious with using it as at the top of the page for the tool, it says "Warning: You take full responsibility for any action you perform using Twinkle. You must understand Wikipedia policies and use this tool within these policies, or risk being blocked from editing." meaning that if you break Wikipedia's policies multiple times with the tool you can be blocked for it. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- I read Twinkle but am still confused on how it works. Thank you for the suggestion. Kaleeb18 (talk) 21:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Toy Story into Sheriff Woody. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution
. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please provide attribution for this duplication if it has not already been supplied by another editor, and if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, you should provide attribution for that also. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 22:45, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Gotcha. Kaleeb18 (talk) 01:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
I just saw that you were a fan of the Braves, so...
ATLANTA BRAVES
2021 MLB Champions
BATTLE WaterflameIsAwesome (talk) 23:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- LET'S GO BRAVES Kaleeb18 (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Repeated violations of WP:NOTAFORUM
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, you may be blocked from editing. Jeppiz (talk) 23:34, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
- what? I was not trying to push my personnel point of view on that talk page I was really just trying to state that that section is Misleading. Yet again Im still fairly new so be patient with me and assume good faith. Kaleeb18 (talk) 03:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, I don't doubt your good faith. But you have been trying for some time now to put forward arguments about Judaism that seem to be your own arguments. Even if they would be right (I don't think they are nut your opinion is of course equally valid to mine), they need to rely on sources. Wikipedia does not function like a forum, and sources are needed. Jeppiz (talk) 17:25, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Ok, sorry for my disruptive editing I’ll try not to do that again thanks for notifying me. Kaleeb18 (talk) 17:30, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Teahouse advice
My suggestion would be that you avoid suggesting that new users simply move their drafts into the mainspace; often they won't be able to because they are not autoconfirmed, but even if they can, it's much better for both them and the project if they run it through AFC first. If they move it and it is not in an acceptable state, things will happen to it that they don't understand, such as maintenance tags or a deletion discussion or speedy deletion, which will only lead to additional frustration and anger. If they submit a draft, they can get advice as they work on it, leading to less frustration. Just a suggestion. 331dot (talk) 16:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- @331dot: gotcha, I was thinking about not adding that information so that is why I suggest that they shouldn’t move it. Thanks for the info. Kaleeb18 (talk) 16:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Woody (Toy Story)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Woody (Toy Story) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pamzeis -- Pamzeis (talk) 06:00, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
@Pamzeis: awesome! ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 13:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Real Name
Hello Kaleeb! I noticed that you have provided your real name, however you have also stated (Redacted). Technically I should remove it and ask for all revisions containing it to be revdel'd because of WP:YOUNG, but I'm not going to. I feel that as long as you're fine with having your real name out on the internet then that's your decision. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:24, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Blaze The Wolf: Gotcha, I feel/think the same way. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 15:56, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- also i dont use this name anywhere else so no one should be able to find out much except for what i put in my userboxes. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 16:16, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Trimmed, mainly because it's not the best idea to advertise such things (per the links provided). Primefac (talk) 12:28, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Ok I understand but why do other people get to keep that stuff? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaleeb18 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- It's a personal security thing. I would really encourage you to read the guide that Blaze linked to in their original post, as it gives a bit more detail, but basically the more someone knows about you the more they can find out about you (especially these days with social media being what it is), and for someone in your situation that's not really a scenario we want to deal with on Wikipedia when we know it is easily preventable (i.e. by removing that information) - and we have dealt with individuals who cross certain boundaries inappropriately.
- Now, everyone has their own comfort level for how much they reveal about themselves; some reveal nothing, some (like me) give some general details for more of a "this is my background" perspective, and some people edit under their own names. That being said, most of the people in that latter category also know the risks they take when they do such things, and there have been cases where people get stalked or harassed in real life because they've revealed too much about themselves and some idiot decides to "have some fun with them" (think swatting and the like, but I know of at least one case where a doxxed editor was actually arrested because of the edits they made). We won't prohibit you from posting that sort of content, but the OS team's general opinion of the matter is "if I can find you through Google, it's too much information" - and we have hidden information from others (even adults) when it's a little too personal (home addresses, phone numbers, etc).
- If you have any further questions feel free to ask me (either on-wiki or via email); if you choose to go the email route your conversations will stay 100% confidential. Primefac (talk) 15:57, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Ok I understand but why do other people get to keep that stuff? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaleeb18 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Trimmed, mainly because it's not the best idea to advertise such things (per the links provided). Primefac (talk) 12:28, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- also i dont use this name anywhere else so no one should be able to find out much except for what i put in my userboxes. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 16:16, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
@Primefac: Gotcha, I think I should be good because I don’t use this username on anything but Wikipedia. Do you think I’ve revealed to much though? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 16:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- On the whole I think you're good. Primefac (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Cool ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 22:23, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, I think you are a fan of Disney characters, or just a Toy Story. I just moved 2 images on the right side as I think that the layout will be now much better from the PC view. I really hope that your GA nom will be all fine. Goodluck. 2001:4455:1A9:E100:2D88:EB0C:FD82:558E (talk) 06:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 15:27, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Could you be more careful next time?
Hi, regarding your answer to the Teahouse question "Problem with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1061485586?", could you check who made the edit next time? It's somewhat WP:BITEy to tell a newcomer that their edit "has been dealt with" because that implies bad faith from the newcomer, which is not the case.
Thanks. —67.183.136.85 (talk) 03:42, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Oh, I thought that someone else made that question not the person who made the edit. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 13:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas, Kaleeb18! Thanks for sticking around, asking lots of questions, and working hard at improving your contributions to Wikipedia. I hope you have a blessed and refreshing holiday.
You might also like to add the {{Wikibreak}} template (or one of the alternatives under See also) to your user or talk page – no obligation, though! ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 03:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank You and Merry Christmas to you too! ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 03:47, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Christianity/Republicanism (?)
Hello. I would like to ask, if it is not considered personal, if you are comfortable interacting with LGBTQIA2+ members of the community. We want to make sure you are before continuing interacting with articles you've made or carrying out any form of off-Wiki communication. -Logan RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 05:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @RemusSandersRegretsEverything: Well first of all I will say it sounds like you might just be trying to just start an argument maybe. Also I haven't edited anything related to LGBTQ on Wikipedia; I try to stay away from that as I might abstain from Wikipedia's policies if I do. I will also say that yes I oppose LGBTQ and other things like it, but I do not hate those people instead, I am nice to them and I will never be rude or mean to LGBTQ people ever. This also seems like something one should discuss off wiki, and it looks like you have asked questions like this to other people too and have also been told this is an off Wiki discussion. Like on Blaze Wolf's talk page you brought up an off Wiki discussion and were told by Tamzin that stuff like this is an off Wiki discussion so I would stop asking questions like this to other users as Wikipedia is not a social networking site, and all discussion should ultimately be directed solely toward the improvement of the encyclopedia. See user talk pages. You have also been told by TheresNoTime the same thing. It aslo seems like their are multiple people using this account because sometime this account signs with Logan, Janis, Blurry, etc... which I think violates Wikipedias policy see Wikipedia's sharing accounts policy. It seems like you also work with/have or changed the username of your account from TheHamiPotterGeek that ask questions like this on other user talk pages, which might be sockpuppetry but I'm not sure. Since I am still fairly new to Wikipedia, I want to bring someone like @GoingBatty: who is much more experienced editors than I am to deal with this situation so it doesn't get out of hand. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 13:55, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Kaleeb18: If you haven't done so already, you may want to see their page User:RemusSandersRegretsEverything/pronouns. I took the liberty of adding wikilinks to the initialisms.
- @RemusSandersRegretsEverything: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your efforts to improve articles! GoingBatty (talk) 16:35, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Per the page GoingBatty linked, and per comments I made earlier at one of RSRE's Teahouse threads, I don't see any violation of SOCK here. There is one physical body controlling RSRE's account, and that's enough. Likewise being renamed does not constitute sockpuppetry; I've been renamed twice, myself. @RemusSandersRegretsEverything: Similar to something I said at that Teahouse thread, it may be easier to avoid confusion if, when saying which part is speaking, you pipe to User:RemusSandersRegretsEverything/pronouns, like
[[User:RemusSandersRegretsEverything/pronouns|Logan]]
That said, Kaleeb, I agree with the thrust of your comment about NOTSOCIAL. @RSRE I really do think you're operating with the best of intentions here, but these kinds of messages don't fit within Wikipedia's scope. (As a bit of friendly advice from someone else who checks off a few of the characters in "LGBTQ+", I've found that the best approach to take in life is to assume I won't be discriminated against and, if I'm wrong, cross that bridge when I come to it. It's easier for other people, and, I've found, easier for me.) I'm not an administrator, so I can't tell you what to do here, but I would strongly recommend following this rule: If a talkpage message doesn't relate to you improving as a Wikipedia editor, nor to improving Wikipedia's content, don't send it. You'll notice that more experienced editors don't always follow this rule of thumb—out of my last 50 usertalk edits I count two that go against it—but as a new editor it's good to start out fully complying with it, until you can learn the often quite subtle norms that underly it. When in doubt on Wikipedia, orient yourself toward improving the encyclopedia's content, and let everything else flow through that. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)- @Tamzin: Sorry I just want to make sure things are clear and stuff. So they changed their name from TheHamiPotterGeek to RemusSandersRegretsEverything right? so definitely no sockpuppetry. I was just making sure they were not a sockpuppet. But is the account shared or is it just one person or multiple people? because on this section of their userpage (User:RemusSandersRegretsEverything/pronouns) it says its operated by Janis, Janus, Gretchen, Remus V, Virgil1, Virgil2, Regina and Damien. If its operated by multiple people doesn't that go against WP:NOSHARING and they should all make their own account? Im just super confused. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 17:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @GoingBatty Thanks for the link it makes a little more sense, but not really. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 17:54, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I think GoingBatty was trying to clear that up by wikilinking DID and OSDD, two conditions that lead to... well, let's avoid clinical terms, and just speak in terms of how people with them feel... that lead to multiple conscious entities inhabiting the same body. You may have seen some media depictions of this, often using the outdated term "Multiple personality disorder" (although I'll caution that those media depictions are often very inaccurate). If you look at the archived Teahouse thread I linked to, RSRE explains a bit more of it there. https://did-research.org/ also has some good information, although I won't vouch for every single thing it says.So yes, RSRE is one "person" in the sense intended by SOCK. If they were to run disclosed alts for all of their system members, I think that would be far more disruptive than the alternative. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tamzin sorry this stuff can get confusing. Based off what i read at the teahouse Janis, Janus, Gretchen, Remus V, Virgil1, Virgil2, Regina and Damien are all one person and they refer to themselves as we? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- They are all one person in the sense that they share the same body. They perceive themselves as distinct individuals. Does that make sense? If not, bear with me, I'm working on an FAQ for this topic, as I have a similar condition. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:07, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: Yeah its making sense, but they really need to specify that and do what you told them to do in the Teahouse. Also is DID/OSDD like an actual medical type problem or is it a term within the LGBTQ community. Bear with me Im really trying to understand. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:15, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- They are actual medical conditions. I'd encourage you to read the articles. They are, I'll be honest, not great articles, but they do answer some of your questions. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:27, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- I read some, so is DID kinda like gollum from Lord of the Rings. Like gollum has like an evil side named gollum, but has a good side in him called Smeagol and they like conflict with each other. If you have never seen the movies or the book Lord of the rings them you will have no clue what im talking about, but I think I get it now. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! I want to help you understand. I am Gretchen, an introject in the Skeleton System! We are a DID/OSDD system, and we formed from repetitive trauma that started when the core, Remus V, was under the age of 7. He dissociated to deal with said trauma, which caused his psyche to "split." When this happened, Jay Al Jamiz formed. Since then, he's dealt with trauma, and more of us have formed! We share a body, but we are our individual people with different traits! For example, I personally dislike chocolate, and Remus V loves it. Logan would never intentionally start a fight; he was just asking to see if we would be able to ensue communication. @Tamzin I'm so sorry if this violated a rule in any way, Logan really likes rules and would never do anything to cause an argument on purpose. And thank you @GoingBatty and @Tamzin for helping explain the situation! -Gretchen RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 19:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry @RemusSandersRegretsEverything: but if I hadnt heard Tamzin's explanation I would have never understood what you said, but the only "rule" you broke is WP:Wikipedia is not a social networking site. Please read it. You need to do what Tamzin said in the Teahouse so people dont get confused and think you are sharing an account with multiple people. Happy editing. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- You're the only person who's gotten confused, we will cross that bridge when we come to it. I hope that if you have any questions you will ask us, Tazmin, or another with DID/OSDD, or a proffesional. -Gretch RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 04:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry @RemusSandersRegretsEverything: but if I hadnt heard Tamzin's explanation I would have never understood what you said, but the only "rule" you broke is WP:Wikipedia is not a social networking site. Please read it. You need to do what Tamzin said in the Teahouse so people dont get confused and think you are sharing an account with multiple people. Happy editing. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 19:31, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! I want to help you understand. I am Gretchen, an introject in the Skeleton System! We are a DID/OSDD system, and we formed from repetitive trauma that started when the core, Remus V, was under the age of 7. He dissociated to deal with said trauma, which caused his psyche to "split." When this happened, Jay Al Jamiz formed. Since then, he's dealt with trauma, and more of us have formed! We share a body, but we are our individual people with different traits! For example, I personally dislike chocolate, and Remus V loves it. Logan would never intentionally start a fight; he was just asking to see if we would be able to ensue communication. @Tamzin I'm so sorry if this violated a rule in any way, Logan really likes rules and would never do anything to cause an argument on purpose. And thank you @GoingBatty and @Tamzin for helping explain the situation! -Gretchen RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 19:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- I read some, so is DID kinda like gollum from Lord of the Rings. Like gollum has like an evil side named gollum, but has a good side in him called Smeagol and they like conflict with each other. If you have never seen the movies or the book Lord of the rings them you will have no clue what im talking about, but I think I get it now. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- They are actual medical conditions. I'd encourage you to read the articles. They are, I'll be honest, not great articles, but they do answer some of your questions. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:27, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: Yeah its making sense, but they really need to specify that and do what you told them to do in the Teahouse. Also is DID/OSDD like an actual medical type problem or is it a term within the LGBTQ community. Bear with me Im really trying to understand. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:15, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- They are all one person in the sense that they share the same body. They perceive themselves as distinct individuals. Does that make sense? If not, bear with me, I'm working on an FAQ for this topic, as I have a similar condition. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:07, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tamzin sorry this stuff can get confusing. Based off what i read at the teahouse Janis, Janus, Gretchen, Remus V, Virgil1, Virgil2, Regina and Damien are all one person and they refer to themselves as we? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I think GoingBatty was trying to clear that up by wikilinking DID and OSDD, two conditions that lead to... well, let's avoid clinical terms, and just speak in terms of how people with them feel... that lead to multiple conscious entities inhabiting the same body. You may have seen some media depictions of this, often using the outdated term "Multiple personality disorder" (although I'll caution that those media depictions are often very inaccurate). If you look at the archived Teahouse thread I linked to, RSRE explains a bit more of it there. https://did-research.org/ also has some good information, although I won't vouch for every single thing it says.So yes, RSRE is one "person" in the sense intended by SOCK. If they were to run disclosed alts for all of their system members, I think that would be far more disruptive than the alternative. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Per the page GoingBatty linked, and per comments I made earlier at one of RSRE's Teahouse threads, I don't see any violation of SOCK here. There is one physical body controlling RSRE's account, and that's enough. Likewise being renamed does not constitute sockpuppetry; I've been renamed twice, myself. @RemusSandersRegretsEverything: Similar to something I said at that Teahouse thread, it may be easier to avoid confusion if, when saying which part is speaking, you pipe to User:RemusSandersRegretsEverything/pronouns, like
I've created User:Tamzin/Plurality and multiplicity FAQ. Do you have any questions that aren't answered on there, Kaleeb? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 20:44, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: I think your FAQ is good and I just thought of this. You should make a WP page (you know like an article thats starts off like this Wikipedia: ) kinda like what you are doing with your FAQ. Maybe it could be called Wikipedia:Plurality and multiplicity and a shortcut for it could be like one of the followings: WP:DID, WP:OSSD, WP:PM (for Plurality and multiplicity). It could help explain stuff and it could also tell people with the disorder what to put on there user page or something so people dont think they are violating WP:NOSHARING. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 20:58, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Userboxes
I've noticed you've made a lot of userboxes at titles such as Template:User Kaleeb18/Atlanta Braves. Templates in template-space generally don't include a user's username -- would you mind these being moved to subpages of your userpage (for example, at a title like User:Kaleeb18/Userboxes/Atlanta Braves)? You could still use and share them as userboxes, but they'd be in your userspace instead of template-space, which is meant for templates that would get more wide-spread use. Please let me know, if so I'll be happy to move them all. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Elli: No problem, I'll move them and thanks for notifying me. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 02:47, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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