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Re: Airfrance353

They surely have to be the same person. User:Airfrance353 created Air France 358 - the same page User:Aircanada001 made. I then viewed Aircanada001's contribs and came across Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of AirFrance358. Now I'm not too familiar with this vandal, but this will probably be resolved at this checkuser case. Spellcast (talk) 17:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Alliant

Hi. When a user blanks a page they've created themselves, we should interpret that as a request for deletion under the CSD guidelines. He wasn't exactly removing the {{db}} tag so much as accepting the removal of the page. There really isn't a necessity to warn him for vandalism. Thanks, Sam Korn (smoddy) 21:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Indeed it is gone. Sam Korn (smoddy) 22:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


New pages

Exactly and don't think for one moment I didn't think of the new page patrollers. Please please visit User talk:Kingturtle and inform him that flagging articles created by me as patrolled would be of enormous benefit to new page patrollers and save them a lot of unnecessary work. I find it ridiculous that being the creator of the most articles on wikipedia than anybody I can't be granted automatically patrolled pages when an admin of 1/10th of my edits can. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ $1,000,000? 14:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Note - Check unpatrolled pages here

If you would rather not have to check each one I really think you ought to spare two minutes and see the discussion here to get my account natrually marked as patrolled. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ $1,000,000? 17:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I do a lot of work across wikipedia and create articles, most of them are fuller than this on a large range of subjects. The easiest thing would be to have my account flagged ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ $1,000,000? 17:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Done 400, that's enough, I've got cramp. When he starts on China, count me out. I'll go back to New Pages and see what horrors have been exposed by the receding tide. JohnCD (talk) 18:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


Well small price to pay after your magnificent help at patrolling my stubs I think the cats are just about right. INteresting that I started List of shipwrecks in the Bristol Channel not so long ago. Where I live there was tons of them as Cardiff and Barry were once the largest coal exporting ports in the world. I don't know what happened earlier but my user page was tagged twice for speedy deletion , I thought I was speaking to a blatant vandal and then the next thing you know this persistent admin keeps hounding and interfering and making out like I;m rude and that and am the bad guy. Well SPECTRE No.1 isn't a saint is he after all his crimes against humanity. Lol Regards amigo ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 23:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally it's funny John above mentioned China I started the 900 odd Tibet articles a while back ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 23:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Radhaa Ki Betiyaan Kuch Kar Dikhayengi

I've saw this earlier art puzzled over it. Googling it established that it's a major new Indian TV series. I've added a ref and an explanation and the {{db-repost}} tag. I'll try and establish its notability a bit more clearly shortly. All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 10:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the message. Sorry to add to the confusion but I missed out a word: I "removed" the {{db-repost}}. Anyhow. I've added a couple of cites and taken out the synoposis which looks like a copy-vio anyway!? Having done that, I still have my doubts about notability :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 10:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, you're probably right though the first deletion was as {{db-bio}} which it isn't. It doesn't assert notability and I can't find any non-trivial coverage. First episode screens tonight apparently. thanks for your input. Much appreciated. --ROGER DAVIES talk 10:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
In fact, it isn't {{db-nn}} at all as that applies primarily to people and organisations and not to their output or products. I was so focused on notability that I completely lost sight of this earlier. Oh well, we're all human, I suppose :) All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 12:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have been reviewing Pvsamrat (talk · contribs)'s edits. I deleted Raajkumar Aaryyan and Ek Packet Umeed because they were copyvio of www.ndtvimagine.com. However, Radhaa Ki Betiyaan Kuch Kar Dikhayengi is not speedyable. db-repost only applies to articles that when through a regular AfD. Articles that were proded, or speedied can be recreated. The first version of the article never stated that it was a show, and appeared to be talking about a person in the film, not the film itself. It probably should have been speedy as having no context. Nevertheless there is no problem with recreating speedied material. Sometimes the subject is notable, but the person just hasn't stated how. When s/he recreates it in a better fashion it can be kept.
If you think the article should be deleted you can pursue an AfD. Films and books are not speediable for lacking notability. Jon513 (talk) 12:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Cat picture

Have you considered an article RFC over that? It definitely wasn't clear-cut vandalism, so I removed it from AIV. Daniel Case (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Definitely. Daniel Case (talk) 19:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

It isn't vandalism though (see Wikipedia:Vandalism for a definition) and doesn't require a block. Hut 8.5 20:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Possible edit war

Thanks for the note. It seems to have calmed down now. I will try to keep an eye on it. Cheers TigerShark (talk) 21:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Edit summaries

Hey Michael, Im quite new to wiki as you can see by my edit history, thank you for informing me of the editing process you must have to undertake before saving a page as this will now come in handy when i edit in the future... Many thanks, Steve (Stevebatsford (talk) 08:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC))

To clarify, Anna's article was not about a band she is in but rather an online role-playing game she participates in. --NeilN talkcontribs 10:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Looks like the reverts happened. For future reference, you can just edit the page and edit out the vandalism. :-) - Philippe 17:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

{{Cite web}}

What does "cite web" mean? I could not put the Eddy Shell material into that formula for it to work. Can you show me how to do that?

Thanks, Billy Hathorn (talk) 11:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

PS I have revised conversion edits to Oldland Mill, Keymer in line with the above statements. Bleakcomb (talk) 12:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Racist user

Hi,

The guy's already blocked and been told about it - I did so myself. The page was [rptected because the user was vandalising it, since that's all he could do while blocked, and deleted per WP:DENY, so all taken care of already. Thanks, fell free to drop off anything else like this, Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo

Unfortunately, we are restricted to just one photo. I just hadn't cleaned up yet :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint. We have lots of nice photo hooks ATM, they can't all be featured. Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Make a suggestion on the DYK talk page. But I doubt your chances, I tried to do two images one other time and it was explained to me that we can't do that.
Since you weren't happy not to get your article featured though, I decided to throw it back and replace with another one. Maybe someone will feature your article next time, it is a nice long one and good enough for the No. 1 spot I think. Gatoclass (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


New Upload form

I have put a comment on commons:Commons:Village pump#What the heck is that new upload form that may help ClemRutter (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you seen the posting re: User:GregManninLB. think it may have relevance to Mills project. ClemRutter (talk) 13:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

hello

I will add information all about that... dont worry.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eraslan71 (talkcontribs) 17:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Damien

Hi friend. How are you? Yes its not exactly the sort of thing you want a lot of fuss with every time you log in. If he continues to nominate truckloads of valid images I will indeed be filing an ANI complaint in which I am certain others will follow me. Many editors on here are fully aware of what is acceptable on wikipedia and have spent a lot of time uploading images with rationales which are irreplaceable, and then to have somebody tagging them and spamming your talk page is not on. The Bald One White cat 12:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm not going to do anything unless the images are indeed deleted which I doubt they will be and the editor doesn't tire of trying to delete them. He'll learn eventuually that such images are generally accepted on here, evne if he has concerns about payment of images. The Bald One White cat 12:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


FPAS RFC

As a participant in the recent discussion at WP:ANI, I thought you should be informed of the new RFC that another user has started regarding FPAS's behavior.

Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 15:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: IP Vandal

The IP was blocked yesterday and so far, hasn't edited since then. Spellcast (talk) 08:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Hnq

Hi, the page is deleted. In the future, you can place a speedy tag on the page; it was blatant spam. Kindly, Lazulilasher (talk) 21:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

AFD HD-question

I've left another comment. - Mgm|(talk) 11:51, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

World Wars

The consensus is that the articles are named World War I and World War II; everything else is a redirect to those names. The proportion of articles linked to World War I vs World War One and World War II vs World War Two are each about 50,000 to 1. Thanks. Hmains (talk) 17:13, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

No, it isnt! MJR

3RR

I think you will find that two of my reversions on Ryanair were on the evening of 10 November, and three in the evening of 11 November. I stopped reverting at that point to avoid breaching the 3RR, even though my edit was again reverted. Harry the Dog WOOF 09:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: SS Empire Advocate DYK

Oops! I meant German ref...sorry! —Politizer talk/contribs 02:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox & Categories

Thanks for that, never too old to learn something new. Regards, Spy007au (talk) 11:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

About 3RR message you left me

The 3RR does not apply when reverting vandalism. I was reverting the removal of sourced material by an Anon. Furthermore, I left a comment about what was going on in the talk page. Please mind your warnings, check the editing history and read the talk pages before issuing a nonsense warning. Also, please check the text of the 3RR. Thank you.--Legion fi (talk) 05:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree there is no need to take this any further. But I want to clarify one thing. I didn't removed sourced material. In fact, I reverted the removal of it. That is why I was telling you to check the edit history. The anon vandalized the page by removing the sourced content. I simply reverted the removal. And plus, I warned in the talk page about what was going on (me reverting vandalism). Please check your facts before using templates. The anon removed the sourced content, not me. Thanks again. --Legion fi (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

FAR

The demoted ship article is class C or B; the citations are not up to GA standard. --Una Smith (talk) 16:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Agree in the case of Andrea Doria that the citations are not sufficient. But the general question still stands. Not sure where it should be discussed though. Mjroots (talk) 16:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
In my experience, the class is assessed just as for any article, so there is no general question to discuss. --Una Smith (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

To answer your question on my talk page, when a GA is promoted to FA, the article looses its GA status and becomes an FA. If the FA is demoted at FAR, since it lost GA status upon promotion to FA, the article at most can be B-Class, and in the cases of the extremely-old FAs which have not been updated even C-class as is the case with Andrea Doria. If you want to inquire more about this, it might be better to ask those at WT:GA and WT:FA or Raul654 as he is the Featured Article Director. -MBK004 03:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

See SandyGeorgia's and my response at WT:FA; in short, FAR does not evaluate whether articles meet GA and many delisted articles do not meet GA because of citations and/or comprehensiveness concerns. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Templates

Hey, bold italics is fine! I'm not the original author of the template, I just made copies of it. The original author is User:TouLouse - I'm sure the user will agree with the proposal WhisperToMe (talk) 18:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

  • As for edit summaries, I'll try to add more of them, especially when an explanation is warranted. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 18:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Chrisbot

You have not replied at Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval#Chrisbot in a week, and ChrisDHDR wishes to restart his bot. If you have any objections, please raise them there before 13:07, 11 July 2009 (UTC). Thanks. Anomie 13:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Transshipment Terminal

I am glad to see that you noticed the correction. I accidentally incorrectly copied the request as from International Container Transshipment terminal,kochi to International Container Transshipment terminal, Kochi, when the correct request was to International Container Transshipment Terminal, Kochi (see malformed request section).[1] 199.125.109.124 (talk) 01:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Mjroots (talk) 04:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Group: Aviation

Hi there, Mjroots. I had a new message from your kind self about joining the aviation group on Wikipedia. I am comparatively new to the editing side, so your invite is much appreciated and very kind. I dont know how to join the group, though! There's a few things about Wikipedia I really dont have a clue on, and that's one of them. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards --Arrows98 (talk) 06:51, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

RE:Help!

I agree that this should have been discussed beforehard, but c'est la vie. I would strongly suggest that you hold-off page moves at the moment, it would be counter-productive and would cause endless redirects etc. I think the best thing now would be to continue that discussion without badgering people too much, let a consensus build. Perhaps leave notes on any relevant project talkpages asking for input? Incidentally where was the discussion that led to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements)/Counties? It should really be linked on the talkpage. Regards, Woody (talk) 19:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry

It seems that my presence at Montefiore Windmill has attracted I-P (Israel-Palestine) regulars. I'm going to stay out of editing that article for now in the hope that things can calm down. If you have any further problems, please be aware that both Gilabrand and No More Mr Nice Guy have been warned under the I-P Arbcomm case about the special restrictions governing I-P articles. You can notify the WP:AE noticeboard if they continue to remove sourced material without discussion. Just refer to their previous warnings. If you need help locating them, just ask me. Good luck. And again, sorry. Tiamuttalk 17:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Mjroots. Don't waste your time looking for anything. I'm just saying that if they continue to cause you problems, there is always that option. If you do decide to go that route, let me know and I'll help you. I have a lot of experience with this crap (unfortunately, its a feature of editing in the I-P domain). Thanks again for the cookie. I'll be sure to pass it on. Tiamuttalk 17:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Windmills

Awesome job with the Dutch windmill lists! You may be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject TRANSWIKI/French or whatever takes your fancy. Dr. Blofeld White cat 11:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed most of them link to the village but the village article don't evne mention the windmill! Naturally I want to see a proper article for each windmill eventually. Its definately a much needed task I was considering generating a few myself. If you could link the windmill artiles in the village articles and prepare for a seperate article on the windmills in future this would be good. Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:13, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Story v. Storey

intersting. I did not know that. JoshuaZ (talk) 21:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Half a step ahead of you. I did that as soon as I saw your reversion. JoshuaZ (talk) 21:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
There is a lovely classic cryptic clue from the New York Times crrossword, that only works in American English: It goes around connecting storys together (6, 9). Answer: Spiral staircase.

SimonTrew (talk) 02:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: Druid

Yeah. I'm very confused by his last post, but hopefully he doesn't attack anybody else! Master of Puppets - Call me MoP! :D 16:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Signature

I'll fix it

thanks -- LONTECH 06:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lontech (talkcontribs)

User talk:Lontech

Hi! You probably meant Wikipedia:Signatures, no? Currently the link is quite an easter egg and certainly doesn't actually point to the relevant policy... Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 07:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

fixed-- LONTECH  Talk  13:39, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up

I was hesitant to intervene earlier because I've seen editors with language problems and other world views be bitten quite badly here before and didn't want to feed into that pattern. A couple of comments by the editor in question over the last month and this latest spate of nominations was enough to dispell any lingering thoughts I had about speaking up though. Thanks for taking care of that. Tiamuttalk 17:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Good to know. About the babel, can someone explain to him/her how to do it? I don't know how it is added. Tiamuttalk 17:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
How stupid of me, its on my own page. I really need to become more familiar with tech lingo. Tiamuttalk 17:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

F1 2010/vandals

Thanks for adding the protection. The vandal attacks have stopped, but for one user. User:Dineshdl92 has repeatedly edited the driver table, and then five minutes later after his edits have been reverted. He has been asked by three users - including my page - to stop on his talk page, and I've added a section for him under the discussions tab, though I doubt he's the sort who checks it. I hope I'm putting this in the right place. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 11:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for that. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 11:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
It's good enough for me. I can't speak for the others, but if they take exception to it, they can go out and find a better one. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Redirects, NRHP listings, etc.

Hi, Mjroots. I didn't reply to your comment until now because I was not quite sure what to say, but I've finally

The issue regarding Downtown Norwich is the outgrowth of several months of petty squabbling, edit warring, etc. I don't think that it would be productive to bring the matter up at WP:ANI right now. The situation has been discussed ad nauseam on numerous talk pages and noticeboards, and the conclusion always is (in essence) that all involved parties are productive good-faith contributors who ought to be able to talk through the disagreements. Acroterion has agreed to attempt to mediate, but the issues pile up too fast for one person. If you think you could help him out (or know of another candidate), I'm sure he'd be happy to hear from you...

For some background on the dispute (and possibly some perspective on how it came about that an article title from Connecticut, USA, got redirected to Norwich), see (listed in no particular order): Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Connecticut, Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Rhode Island, Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Vermont, Talk:Poquetanuck, and User talk:Acroterion/NRHP HD issues list. --Orlady (talk) 04:36, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Warning

Understood (although I don't think I was being that uncivil). From what I have seen, certain editors continue their bad actions regardless of what I say anyways. I will be more careful with my words. TJ Spyke 17:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Officially Mr X

Hey mj, I don't mean to be complaining here, but would you mind taking a look at the edits made by User:Officially Mr X? He's been all over the 2010 Formula One season page (yeah, I don't do much on wiki except F1 stuff) with his tendency to edit things in ahead of time. I've asked him to put a little more thought into what he does and check his sources, and I've noticed other users have done the same. But he tends to ignore what is posted that he should wait for official annoucements, and he seems to get sucked into rumours very quickly. He's been blocked for disruptive edits in the past, but nothing seems to get through to him. I see you've been invovld with him before. I wouldn't call what he does vandalism, but the sheer weight of his edits suggest he has been around a long time; at the very least, long enough to know better. Since you're the resident moderator who follows the page, I thought you might like to know. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

User:White Nights in Stockholm

Hi Mjroots, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 23:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

My signature

Thanks for the information. I did not realize it was not linking. Of course, as usual, would have been nice to just get the information without a warning ("This is against policy." Yeah, the universe is against policy). But, it was still useful, the first information part. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 17:26, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Total retraction. You are correct: it was not a template. So, I change my post to: thank you for letting me know my signature was not linking. --IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 17:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Crash Talk Page edit mistake

I'm not sure what happened, I suspect I was editing a much older version of the page and perhaps got an editing conflict warning but didn't notice. Am I within my right to remove the RFC I started if I feel like it's resolved? - Stillwaterising (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I started a thread on the new EL noticeboard for the 3D model. The RFC was lopsided with two detractors and no proponents. - Stillwaterising (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Redlinks

Sorry to get back to you so late. I am relatively new to Wikipedia, and before your comment, I believed that redlinks were simply mistakes, not something wanted in any way. Thanks for enlightening me!--Mister Zoo (talk) 21:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Historian 69

Hi Mjroots, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 21:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


Avoiding speedy deletions and AfDs

Usually those articles get expanded by other people too, by starting the article in the mainspace they get a chance to work on it too and add info that I don't have. That happened for example here: March 881.  Dr. Loosmark  18:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

True, however not always I have the possibilities to better develop the articles myself. But lets be clear about one thing, there was no reason to CSD those articles.  Dr. Loosmark  19:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Koavf

Please take note of this discussion. Radiopathy •talk• 02:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Please see here (permalink) I believe that Radiopathy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is hounding me and has involved your talk page. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 02:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks For looking into this. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 06:34, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I wanted the admins involved in lifting the sanction to be aware of issues like this; he still edit wars, insists that he's universally correct, then uses terms like "uncivil" and "wikihound" when someone catches him. Radiopathy •talk• 14:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:Removal of sections from talk:2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash

Yeah, looks pretty solid to me. Didn't seem to have much to do with the article, best not to let a talk page like that get cluttered with rubbish. J Milburn (talk) 12:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

"Brigadier Jamesbreadth"

You'll remember "Brigadier Jamesbreadth", whom we discussed on my Talk page. He seems to be stalking me now; an article I edited a short while ago, Esomeprazole has had references to Jamesbreadth added which I reverted. The edit comment was sane and sensible, if untrue: "Additional brand names". Do you have any suggestions on my best course of action? For the time being it appears that anything I edit will target stupidity. Maybe I should stop editing for a while. Pol098 (talk) 12:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Pol, you can stop editing for awhile if you wish, but I'm concerned that this will have no effect on Jamesbreadthian additions to articles in general. 216.26.209.47 (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Brigadier Jamesbreadth, 216.211.93.108, is I think back as 216.211.119.194.
Hugh MacColl. Comparison. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 18:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI: {{IPvandal|216.26.202.187}} This is the third time this person has used different IP addresses to vandalise. See User talk:216.26.202.187 for the sad history and details. Pdfpdf (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: WP:UAA

Thank you for bringing this matter to my attention. I agree; I see no evidence of malicious intent; the user in question likely saw that User:Knowledgeseeker was taken (that was my original user name), and so changed the spelling. The issue is that there could be potential confusion between us, though if the user wishes to continue with the name, I have no objections. I am quite impressed with Newyorkbrad's handling of this matter. — Knowledge Seeker 06:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, that could be useful, though I don't think I'd like the way it would look. I appreciate the tip, though. — Knowledge Seeker 05:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

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Dave1185

My comments on Dave's page regarding redirecting his unprotected page to an admin's page was sarcasm. Thanks for proving my point. - BilCat (talk) 22:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Earthquake AfDs

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User:Orangmike

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...again. - NeutralHomerTalk • 06:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Account Clarification

Hi Mjroots: You asked me to clarify the relation between my two accounts: Jenanne (old) and JAHelg (current). Since I use a different password on every web account I have, and make them hard to guess or even for me to remember, when I misplaced (i.e. lost) my old Wiki password I couldn't log on and I couldn't figure out a way to create a new password for the Jenanne account. I decided it wasn't such a bad thing to need a new account name since I could make the name gender neutral. I'm only using the current account. I'm sorry that this was against the rules -- I should have asked for advice. Is there a way to combine my edits in my new account? If not, no biggie. Thank you! JAHelg (talk) 20:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


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The user is blocked by you, but replied to you and is awaiting a response. Just thought I'd let you know. warrior4321 06:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: User:Tasha9713

Re: your message: Ooops, thanks. It happens from time to time because I'm typing everything (obviously). Call me old fashioned (maybe even a bit lazy?), but I never got around to using any of the fancy warning tools and the like. Usually I catch that mistake, but must have missed it while juggling multiple things I was trying to deal with. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Lazy? No, lazy is having {{subst|uw-vandalism|}} saved ready to cut and paste, just leaving level of warning and article to be filled in. Mjroots (talk) 05:23, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Spitsbergen, again

Hello:
Regarding the RfC discussion here; I've made a proposal there, and your comments would be appreciated. (I've extended the same invite to the other editors involved, also).Xyl 54 (talk) 23:35, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you have a word

Here we have yet another of Eugen Simion 14's news articles. It'll be at AfD by morning and gone in a week, wasting everybody's time since I can't speedy the damn thing. Could you have a word with him and see if you can firmly persuade him to take it to Wikinews, which welcomes that sort of thing, or stop the deluge of these articles on unexceptional events that are almost always deleted. This is getting to be an issue of either WP:CIR or WP:IDHT. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you look at the discussions in this AFD? Bzuk (talk) 01:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response; I totally agree with your stance re: the recent RFC, but appreciate the awkwardness of your position. Cheers, and thank you again. Bill Bzuk (talk) 05:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

User removing Nazi icons

This guy User talk:24.180.106.119. You warned him yesterday after ANI report, since when he has done it twice more in last hour [2] and [3] (I have reverted both and issued warnings as vandalism - not sure if that was the right category). Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

24.180.106.119 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has not learned not to move Flag Icons. Dapi89 (talk) 13:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

IP 219.93.197.153

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Dabbing English

Yep, I've been disamming it almost daily for a couple of years :) Just a typo. Thanks for catching it. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 10:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Podostroma cornu-damae DYK

Thank you for moving my article to the right place Mjroots. It's my first DYK submission. :)--Sateros (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

MMN

As an admin you might want to give your input about Mick's conduct at AfDs here. cheers.--Wikireader41 (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you came to my talk page here. Well first I want you to know I am not an administrator, does this make a difference in your opinion for me to talk to MickMacNee? If it does that's ok, my feelings don't get hurt that easily. :) If not, what would you and the others like this editor to agree to specifically? It would help me to know exactly what is expected from him/her. All I would like to do is try to help and from what I remember reading, editors are mixed on their feelings but most want the editor to agree to specifics terms of editing behaviors. I am just trying to get a better feel for things esp. since you stated you didn't want the editor eliminated from the project. Usually editors take to suggestions from editors they have had no contact with before. Anything you say here will be shown to the editor plus I will do some more research prior to contact. So please give me your opinions on how this editor can improve their editing at the project that would make everyone happier. I figure starting with your opinion is good since the two of you obviously don't get along. Thank you in advance for any help you may offer me with this. --CrohnieGalTalk 19:40, 2 November 2010 (UTC)>

This guy's been adding conspiracy theory nonsense about the runway lighting on 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash again. I've reverted it, but then found he'd posted this on the talk page. I know its protected, but Swd is autoconfirmed so there's nothing we can really do to stop him. Just thought I'd let you know. Regards, wackywace 10:21, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

RE: My unblock

Thanks a lot for the attention. Yes, I was wondering if there was a list on wikiprojects though. Do you know if there is? Thanks a lot. Deely1 13:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah thanks a lot mate, will do :) Deely1 17:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Signature

Thanks for pointing out the mistake with my signature. I have now added the links to my user and talk pages to the signature. Thanks again--MFIrelandTalk 14:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

ANI

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - BilCat (talk)

Any advice

you have about User talk:Lunalet#Charles Foster Johnson? I'm getting disinterested. Lunalet (talk) 06:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Something very fishy going on with this user. Seem to be quacking, but I don't know who they are. Any ideas? N419BH 09:47, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Me either. They seem to be conveniently forgetting. And their trolling/personal attacks are everywhere. Did you look at their "questions" over at Guild of Copyeditors elections? I'm wondering if they were involved there. Might just be best to put them on ANI and see if any old friends/foes of theirs recognize the style. Or just block them per WP:NPA. Not sure if they've reached that point yet, they seem to be intentionally right on the line of blockable/unblockable. N419BH 10:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Looks like they canvassed 18 users yesterday for the guild of copyeditors elections. No response to talk page postings. N419BH 05:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

RFC

Hello! I saw the RFC on MickMacNee that you were planning to build. Can I work further on it? Or do you want your RFC version alone? HeyMid (contribs) 14:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi. You're mentioned at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/MickMacNee. Thanks in advance. HeyMid (contribs) 08:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

And your moving has been reverted. There is nothing unfair about a certifier posting a separate (or additional) view in the certifying section - so long as it is clearly marked as your own view and it is in the correct section; it is precisely because you are a certifier (and involved user) that your view was moved to that section so IAR is not an excuse. Please refrain from misusing WP:IAR; that it was invoked in good faith does not justify what you have done in these circumstances. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:59, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Illustrations (vicious deletions)

User:Weiterbewegung A month or so ago we had a new user with a particular interest in the Machine Tool industry around Bolton. Almost before the welcome note had hit his talk page he was being savaged for uploading some incredibly useful images of machine tools produced by defunct engineering firms. Many I hadn't seen before, but each one would be unique and almost impossible to trace residual copyright. It took me personally a year, and multiple uploads to to get some of my mill images from 1951 fixed. User:Weiterbewegung is showing signs of extreme frustration- and is not accepting help easily but I can understand where he is coming from. The Deletion mafia show no appreciation of the difficulty in the area we are working- do you have any influence that could help them be more constructive.--ClemRutter (talk) 20:11, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


Stevem Max

Would appear to be User:Ryan kirkpatrick. I'm not sure; I've opened an SPI here. As you've been speaking with him, I wanted to let you know. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Is this user name (contribs) fair per the user name policy? Why so serious? Talk to me 10:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't see why not; it could be a woman (or a boy) named Sue whose surname is Law (neither are uncommon) who was born in 1954. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks, I just wanted to clarify. —Why so serious? Talk to me 16:18, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree, nothing offensive about it. It's not that the editor is making legal threats or anything, is it? Mjroots (talk) 16:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
No not at all. They are a newbie. —Why so serious? Talk to me 16:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, you know what to do with newbies - Welcome them! Mjroots (talk) 16:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I just wanted to clarify about the username before welcoming them. Why so serious? Talk to me 16:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Stubs

Mjroots,

To your reply about you creating articles from scratch. I believe that the assessment can be changed if another contributor believes it should be something else and therefore I accept the change you've reverted the WikiProject Disaster Management Stub at the bottom of the article. That was the first time I've put a "Stub" related template onto an article and of course if it had more information, and was a bigger article, I would recommend as a nicely put suggestion type the article out in a word processor before adding it to Wikipedia? Adamdaley (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

If you don't use a word processor, then maybe type out the article in your User:Mjroots subpage? For example Mjroots/subpage article name here until you have found more than enough information to make it such a good article then posting it to Wikipedia for the assessment you are hoping for? When you stated that my talkpage was confusing, I took on your advice made a subpage and added my stuff there. I'm not here to argue or fight with you, as someone said to me once over the last 3 months, we all are volunteers and contributors to Wikipedia. Jimmy Wales has given us an opportunity to get involved in something and have an interest in contributing too, which of course I am very thankful and have learnt alot compared to High School. Yes, there is the odd person who disrupts continuously on Wikipedia that can be dealt with. Hope things have been sorted out and that we can work together again in future articles. Adamdaley (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

User ID's

Obviously, once someone is blocked, they can't edit. I don't think there's any dispute about that. Thanks for closing that epic. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

User ID in red

I am an occasional editor and notice my ID pops up in red while everybody else's is in blue. Why? On the help desk page I do not seem to be able to go back to your February 15th answer. Could you answer this question on my talk page, please?Eravian (talk) 16:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Presidentman wikibreak

Did you notice on AN/I that someone pointed out that Presidentman's user and talk page say May 9, despite the IP's claim that "5" was an error? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Courtesy notice

As you were involved in User:Copperbottom82's userpage move this is a courtesy notice that the page you moved has been sent to a deletion discussion and you are welcome to comment. Thank you. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Re:A request

Hi, I noticed you created {{Location map Spain}}. Would you create a similar one for the Pas-de-Calais Department for me please? I've had a go myself but just keep getting error messages on preview. Extent of the map would be about 51.2 top, 49.8 bottom, 1.2 left and 3.5 right (I think), not sure where the centre would be but approx 50.5, 2.4 should do it. Mjroots (talk) 16:53, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Do you have an image of the Pas-de-Calais Department to use? The only ones I can find on Wikimedia Commons have something colored in for some reason. -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 22:22, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I did raise this at WP:GL/M#French Departments. The map I had in mind was File:Pas-de-Calais department location map.jpg, but apparently that needs to be converted to .svg format. What I'm looking for is something similar to {{Location map France Côtes-d'Armor}}. These maps could probaly be improved by the addition of major roads, railways and town such as on {{Location map United Kingdom Kent}}, but that is another matter. Mjroots (talk) 07:52, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Oh my word, I do not like File:Pas-de-Calais department location map.jpg at all. If you want to get this rolling, I'd say get Inkscape or something and remove the red parts of a map like this File:Calais (Arrondissement) Plan.svg, and if you were ambitious, you could use a background from one of the other images. There is certainly no perfect candidate for the task in existence. Once that's established, the next most important task is to relatively accurately pin the coordinates of the 4 corners (note this really only requires 4 values). Then with those values and the image making the location map is the easy part. -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 16:02, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) For the SVG file suggested, removal of the red parts will leave those areas uncoloured, which won't match the neighbouring grey bits. Instead, change the red bits to the matching grey. You don't even need Inkscape - a plain text editor will do. Download the file from Commons, search through it and you'll soon find hundreds of tags like <path style="fill:#xxxxxx" id="pathnnnnn" d="..." />. The ones that you're interested in are those specifying style="fill:#ff0000". Find those, and change the colour value from #ff0000 to #d3d3d3 so that it becomes the same light grey as the rest of the map. There are five of these to do, one for each red bit, but they are not contiguous: the first has id="path27749" and the last has id="path27763". Amend, save and upload to commons under a new name. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
You're talking foreign there. I tried downloading and editing (inkscape and paint), but it ain't just one shade of red, there's various shades of red, black and a mixture of the two. Ideally, there also needs to be distinguishment made between sea (blue) and land (green) too. Mjroots (talk) 17:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Nope, still foreign. Opened it in inkscape, and can't see anything that says "search" anywhere! :-/ Mjroots (talk) 17:42, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I've managed to de-red that map, but I'm not impressed with the look of it. I'd rather have File:Pas-de-Calais department location map.jpg, but my computer won't give me the option to save as a .svg file As I said, I'm trying to get something similar to the Kent location map, so that file would be the base to work from. Mjroots (talk) 18:07, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
If you've got shades of red and black and mixtures thereof, that sounds like you downloaded the PNG version (539px-Calais_(Arrondissement)_Plan.svg.png) not the pure SVG. Assuming Windows XP and Firefox, then at the image description page, don't right-click directly on that image. Instead, click on the image itself to enlarge it (like this), and then right-click on the full-size image and select "save page as".
Then in Inkscape, open the file and zoom in to a usable level. Obtain the grey colour by clicking on any existing grey area so that it gets enclosed by a dashed rectangle; then go for "Object" menu and select "Fill and Stroke" (Shift+Ctrl+F), click the "Fill" tab then the "RGB" tab, and note down the RGBA figure (I see "d3d3d3ff" here). Then click on a red area to select it, and in the "Fill and Stroke" box, amend the RGBA value to that just noted, then click on a different red area and the first one will change to grey. Do this for the other four red areas, and save.
As the file stands, the area outside the département is undefined in the image, so appears transparent. So, to get the sea blue and the land green requires that these shapes be defined, probably a job for an Inkscape expert. Try Nilfanion (talk · contribs).
The stuff I put about "search" was to do with using a plain text editor such as MS Wordpad. Inkscape does have a "Find" option (in the "Edit" menu) but it's more complicated than you might expect.
JPG files cannot be sensibly saved as a SVG file, because of the totally different methods used to specify shapes and colours: JPEGs use a form of raster graphics (with lossy compression to boot); SVGs use vector graphics. You can edit a JPEG in MS Paint but that's no fun. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm, that explanation is at least understandable. I don't use wordpad except in case of dire emergencies when I can't open a file with anything else (it has happened before) so that I can at least grab the text contained in a file. Despite Theanphibian's dislike, it's the other file we need as a .svg file. Mjroots (talk) 19:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I've asked Nilfanion for assistance. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure I'm an expert but thanks for vote of confidence :) As far as I can tell there are 3 options really:
  1. The only thing that the JPG map gets right is the colour scheme. Its even a copyright violation(!), as it doesn't respect the licence of the map its derived from. I could readily produce an equivalent SVG - this PNG shows what it would look like. This is by far the simplest option, and I could get a SVG prepped and ready for location map use in a few minutes.
  2. The Arrondissement map is much harder to work with, primarily because its extent and projection are unknown. As a result, getting any other data (like the coastline) aligned with it may be difficult. Even if its straightforward, it will be time consuming. Adding the coastline is important for the map, it would lose a lot without it.
  3. The best solution would be map made specifically for the Pas de Calais (like the Côtes-d'Armor map for instance). However, that needs the raw data to work with. I only really have good admin boundary data for GB at present. fr:User:Sting is probably the best person for that, as he has made several of this sort of map for France.--Nilfanion (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to try an interwiki talkback and see if I can get Sting here. Let's hope he can help. Mjroots (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello everybody.
It's ok, these maps will be the next location maps I will make. I'm travelling but as soon as I come back in April I will work on them. Greetings. Sting-fr (talk) 01:48, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

G'day

Hi Mj, if you could experience the tenuous wireless connection with frequent drop-outs that I am forced to endure at the moment, you would understand my not notifying the article creator :-) It took me more than an hour to get as far as I did. YSSYguy (talk) 07:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

U-233/U-238

Hello
I noticed the request move here has been actioned; I was a bit surprised (as I've explained, here), and I can't say I'm best pleased about it; can you suggest what I should do next?
Thanks, Xyl 54 (talk) 22:39, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Unusual editing

A set of unusual edits from a well-respected editor has got me worried. Can you look into: this? Bzuk (talk) 23:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mjroots. Since you put the Troubles template on the relevant article, you might want to add your own comment in the discussion at WP:AE#Wessexboy. The complaint asserts that Wessexboy broke the 1RR and edited tendentiously at Queen Elizabeth II's visit to the Republic of Ireland. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Courtesy notice: mentioned in Arbitration request

Hi Mjroots, I'm leaving you a courtesy notice to say I've mentioned you in my statement at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#MickMacNee. Strange Passerby (talkcont) 11:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Historic houses

Nothing irritates me more than editors like you scoffing at other editors telling them what they should be doing. In fact you've probably deterred Rosie from bothering with these now when the topic is so poorly covered half decent stubs on them is the way to go. Virtually all articles Rosie creates are easily start class articles and well on their way to GA quality. Just look how many decent DYKs she has. Why the hell shouldn't she or I create a few referenced stubs every now and again? If the articles can't be expanded later we wouldn't start them. Not every is like you and wishes to only create an article at GA quality. I personally try to balance my editing between higher quality start-GA class new articles and stub building using sources and some content. You do not, but it is not your place to order others when there is nothing wrong with sourced stubs. As for prodding/notability that's absolute rubbish, a google book search proves this. Just let people get on with it please. Thanks a lot.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

"Personally, I aim to create at least a C class article wherever possible, and frequently create a B class article. "
Seriously, do you not think we would also like every article to be at least GA class we and everybody else creates? Did you not see Arreton Manor, Knighton Gorges Manor, Great Budbridge Manor etc? There happens to be a vast amount missing for Isle of Wight and I believe it is very useful for wikipedia to create new articles about them using a public domain source. At a later date then they can be built upon. Writing every single article to GA quality requires a lot of time. It comes down to time. As long as the article contain some information and are sourced it is constructive. Maybe you were acting in good faith with some pointers , but Rosie clearly knows how to write a high quality article and how to edit. To me it looked like you were scoffing at her stubs. She writes a balance of good quality longer articles and referenced stubs as I do. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, I find it the best way to build wikipedia. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I know we both have different styles of article creation. I'm not familiar with Rosie's editing style, but there was no intention to scoff or denegrate her editing. Now, why don't we both drop this until she replies? Mjroots (talk) 14:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Exactly that, you are not familiar with her editing style so you are not in a place to comment on it. We (you and I MJ) may have different styles of creation but we both share the desire the promote articles to GA quality and beyond. I personally intend to promote many articles on english country houses myself and will much enjoy doing so. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Actually I've long admired Rosie as a prolific content contributor and how well sourced and researched they usually are. She and Aymatth2 and are amongst the finest new article creators on wikipedia. If other editors were as good as her and Aymatth in the quality and range of new articles they create wikipediawould be thousands of times greater than it is right now. Anyway.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mjroots. Thanks for stopping by my talkpage and leaving your note. It's always heartening to know someone is reading what I write. I'm happy working on historic houses and their coverage can be improved on wikipedia by starting with a referenced stub. Something I am very proud of, and an example of my stub work, was the creation of hundreds of Nunavut geo stubs -- islands, lakes, bays, etc. -- later, not originally, having infoboxes, templates, stub tags, etc. I'm also a prolific writer of start, B, and C class articles. Those that got to dyk speak for themselves. For specific examples of my writing style, you can browse through my articles creation list, or dyk list, accessed from my userpage. As for the English and French historic country house stubs that I created yesterday, please give the articles a bit of time to expand. If you look at the edit history of the Nunavut geo stubs created in 2008, you'll see that they started off small but by now, several other editors have worked on each of them, adding this and that, making each of the articles informative and lovely, IMHO, while remaining a stub. I'm quite sure that in time, the country house articles that some of us are working on will be lovely, too, even if they remain a stub. As I'm an experienced editor, and an Admin as you pointed out, your remarks on my talkpage won't deter me from the work I'm doing on country houses. But other editors might feel differently if they received a similar note on their talk page. What a shame that would be... especially if they're a female (might be obvious from my username that I'm a woman) and felt hurt by the criticism of their editing, it being so unsatisfactory that there's the possibility of PROD or AFD. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

No worries. And let me know if you want to collaborate on some article... including country houses. Lol. Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 18:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

MickMacNee

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Mick, I'm posting this here as I think that if I post on your talk page it won't stay. The arbitration case will be closed soon and you know what the outcome will be. As others have said, you do make positive contributions to Wikipedia. The result of the case is not one of "chuck 'im out and nail the door shut behind him". The door can be opened if you want it to be, but you'll need to work at getting it open. Any ban imposed is only from en-Wiki. There are other wikis available, such as Simple or foreign language wikis. There is also Commons. If you are able to do good work there, without getting involved in all the drama, then that would assist in any request to return to en-Wiki should you wish to do so. Whatever happens, I wish you the best for the future. Mjroots (talk) 06:48, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Apologies for barging in but could you give me the link to the page, I planed to take a look but I don't think I will make any remarks. Thanks. --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 07:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Link above in Admin section. Mjroots (talk) 07:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, if I may make a comment here: for gaming the system, HALLELUJAH~! --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 07:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Not sure that was called for, but I expect many will feel the same. For me, this was never about "getting rid of" MMN, but more about getting him to interact better with other editors. There are very few editors who do absolutely no good at all, and MMN doesn't fall into that group. Mjroots (talk) 07:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Maybe you should read what the Archbishop Desmond Tutu once said: "if a person carries a feeling of grudge for a long time, that person will frequently feel it in her/his tummy..." Having said that, I think it is our opinion that MNN falls into such category. But, Desmond Tutu also said: "forgiveness is the key to resolving one's ill feeling and to move on...", if MNN cannot do that then just who are we to try to help him to do something which he is not willing to contemplate? Nuff said, back to our siriz bizniz of weekeepeedia editing. Cheers~! --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 08:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
If you read the proposed decision, the door is not being closed forever. Anyways, Adminning is seriuz bizniz too. Mjroots (talk) 08:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Its fairly obvious that he is drowning in a pool and we threw him a rope but he rejects it, saying that he needs something bigger to save him. IMO, it is not about the size of the dog in the fight, it is about the fight in the dog that matters the most. No? Anyway, god bless him in whatever endeavour he chose after WP, he has had his chances and he chose to blew them all. Cheers and have a great weekend~! --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 08:21, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Your arrogant presumption of course is that I don't already have an account on a place like Commons. Commons is a great place because there's no real need for any rules, and those that do exist, due to their nature, well there's no real scope for admins with the type of flaws you have to exist. There's no way people who do not agree with Commons policies can get into positions where they can subvert such policies and conduct rather basic campaigns to play the man not the ball. On Commons, it's simple, if you talk shit, you're ignored. If you talk it enough, you're banned. There's no need for the sort of low-ball disreputable tactics you've employed to such great effect here to abuse a body like arbcom for your own ends, namely to invent new or ignore existing notability standards for your pet topics of interest, and see that they're followed using all the tricks of the trade made available to people like yourself, who are ironically trusted to watch out for them in ordinary editors. I am amazed to see that you don't get any scrutiny for this, even though its clearly just a basic character flaw, as you showed in other débâcles like your bizarre ideas about settlement nav templates, another case of you pretending that there's some rule here that if you talk bollocks politely enough, somehow it becomes valid opinion and should be treated equally against the opinions of someone who has policy, and more importantly simple non-vested common sense, on their side. It's a real shame that this site's biggest flaw is that it takes more effort to deal with people like you, than it does basic vandals. Yet your effect on overall quality and credibility is far worse than any vandal can ever achieve. I suppose I could get an account on Simple and start ensuring it became legitimate encyclopaedic resources regarding air crashes. Hopefully their outlook on user interactions means that when someone like yourself makes up a notability standard which doesn't equate with any other we have, or tries to so blatantly lie about what the ones we do have actually say, or tries to claim coverage in a tertiary topic specific resource like the ASN is a GNG-satisfying RS for the topic of aircrashes, or when a slack jawed fuckwit like Dave makes yet another classic ATA vote at Afd in defence of any of these idiotic ideas which offend all right minded intelligent people with their brazen illogic and general stupidity, then hopefully the people at Simple see this for what it is, and do not accept the situation that when perfectly valid criticisms of such deplorable behaviour like that are made, they are first and foremost not simply ignored by the people trusted to properly weigh debates and properly moderate such obviously disruptive and tendentious behaviour, and any tactics deployed to eliminate such opposition, such as deliberately ignoring valid points and unjustifiably whining about civility, that does occur in response to it as a way to absolve yourself of any and all adult responsibility and accountability for your deplorable actions, is itself ignored as the wikilawyer's tactic it is. I would love to think that Simple is not the sort of place where people look the other way when presented with evidence that its admins engage in smearing and ironically incivil behaviour while alleging incivility, in attempts to eliminate content opponents. You might think you're different from Dave, you might think that you practice your editing in a way an admin should, but you're two sides of the same coin. At least he's not shy in admitting that he treats Wikipedia like a game, or in showing that he probably has the same respect for our policies and guidelines where they conflict with his personal desires as he does when someone tells him he can't have an ice cream before his dinner. Wikipedia is a serious project, one that seeks to rival real, quality information sources, just not serious enough yet about dealing with people like you or Dave who couldn't get a job stacking library shelves, never mind being responsible for what goes into the books it has. It's a crying fucking shame that new editors conned into believing that we operate according to how the policies and guidelines are written, still have to be exposed to people like you. MickMacNee (talk) 14:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Of course you've got an account on Simple and Commons; with unified login you should have an account across all Wikis, including Wikinews, which is another area you could choose to contribute to. I would say that I posted to OP before I saw your post on Jimbo's talk page. It don't make any difference, as I meant what I said above.
One of your biggest faults is that you think that a guideline is in effect a policy. A guideline is there to guide, but it does not have to be followed rigidly without deviation. It may be ignored if there is a good reason to do so. A policy, on the other hand, carries much more weight. There may be occasions when policy is not followed, but those occasions will be very few and far between, and only for exceptional reasons.
I'll let the PAs pass, as you're obviously angry and lashing out. Not condonable, but understandable. As I've repeatedly said, this is not about eliminating you as an opponent. We shouldn't even be opponents as we are both here with the intention of improving the encyclopedia, it's just the manner of your interaction with other editors which is the reason you find yourself at loggerheads with the community as a whole. Anyway, I do wish you well, and hope that it will prove possible for you to return at some point in the future. Mjroots (talk) 15:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Actually I forgot, not only have I an account on Commons, I have also had one on Wikinews too, and wrote quite a few reports there. I eventually stopped using that one way back though, as it became clear through the presence of admins like you here, and of Afds like the aircrash ones you have so effectively turned into farces of stupidity, that that particular project has been a dead duck from the outset, because through your actions, NOT#NEWS and the GNG have no real meaning here at all for events if they simply get reported in news sources and enough retards will turn up with their ATA opinions. You're an admin. You're really supposed to know that the situations where Guidelines are ignorable are not simply those where you disagree with them and where they get in the way of what you personally want Wikipedia to be, namely a database of every single airliner incident where a tube of metal is put beyond use, with all other considerations being well and truly secondary, whether they come from policies, guidelines, or just plain common sense non-Aviation obsessed opinions of what this site is for. If that's what you want Wikipedia to do, and if you think Guidelines are stopping you doing that, then you're supposed to be able to demonstrate in a cogent and logical manner, that what you do to ignore the Guideline, actually meets a Policy and improves the pedia. And you've never done that in your life. You don't know how to frankly. Yet somehow, someway, you still got made an admin here, which means the incentive for you to do so has been greatly reduced, and its simply easier for you to get what you want in despicable ways instead. Anyway, I really don't kow why I'm wasting my time telling you this, I've done it many times before, and you've never once got it. The crime is that other people honestly don't seem to care that you don't get it either. They seem to like the fact that their chosen admins really are morons, who don't even understand how the pedia is supposed to work themselves in their own chosen topic fields, let alone have the competence or integrity to be overseeing its performance elsewhere. MickMacNee (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
  • FWIW, from the last paragraph of WP:You are not irreplaceable#You can be replaced: "On a more sober note, no individual contributor is so essential that consistent poor behavior will be tolerated. While it is true that idiosyncrasies are more tolerated in established editors with a track record of good contributions, the community has sanctioned any number of editors who made positive contributions to the encyclopedia because their behavior failed to uphold the civility pillar." I rest my case. --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:36, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Biosaber

I've edited wikipedia pages in the past but they keep getting re-edited. Why is that? Why can't the information I provide be left alone? :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biosaber (talkcontribs) 21:41, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

AN Discussion

Just thought I would let you know you are mentioned in this AN thread to get better clarification on a comment you made in an earlier discussion involving removal of a page move ban. -DJSasso (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


A complaint about User:L1v3rp00l

Hi there,

I would like to make a complaint about User:L1v3rp00l, for the following reason - they simply undo all my edits (see Arriva North West article) and then puts exactly what I've written but in his own way. It is really starting to get very frustrating, because I do not like people undoing my work and then doing this, it seems they obviously have a problem with me and I would like it to be sorted out before it gets out of hand.

It basically feels like the page has to be done to how they want and nobody's constructive edits are worth anything. It is disheartening to be quite honest.

I don't see what their problem is to be quite honest, but if possible could it be rectified ASAP? Thanks. JamesSteamPacket (talk) 22:45, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick reply. It is not surprising somebody has defended him but, to save any further arguments I'm not going to contribute to that page anymore, however if he starts doing it to another page I pay particular attention to improving and keeping up to date (there a few) I will go to ANI. Thanks for your help JamesSteamPacket (talk) 15:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

New user BritAirman (talk) 01:17, 4 January 2012 (UTC) page deletion comment

Thank you very much for your helpful comment on my talk page! Don't worry, I am getting the hang of it now! At first I thought it was some sort of 'club' and that anything written by non-experts was immediately marked for deletion by the so called experts in aviation - a form of censorship, if you like. Now I can see that the removal of articles is all part of the evolution of Wikipedia. I will see if I can contribute by recommending improvements to articles where I think improvements can be made. I am fascinated by aviation and although I am not a pilot, it has been my hobby for many years and I think I can contribute a lot more. My BA2157 article took me about 10 hours in total to edit and reference - it has been a great learning experience. I am very pleased with the final result, but don't worry, I won't be reaching for the rope myself if it gets the chop! BritAirman (talk) 01:17, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

ITN/C

I really wish those interested in attacking me would put more effort into improving the quality of what is written on Wikipedia. That newbie needed help. As a non-American I had never heard of the nominee, so couldn't help. Nobody who could help, the Americans who wanted it posted (possibly quite justifiably), did help. WTF was their goal? It was attacking me. It wasn't improving Wikipedia. That was my goal. HiLo48 (talk) 10:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit summaries

As documented on my user page I hardly ever use edit summaries. Sorry MisterBee1966 (talk) 21:06, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello

You sent me a message last week and i just saw it right now. About the edit wars against me, Actully i wrote my claim in the article's talk page and he didn't listen to me. He's continue's to vandalize articles in Wikipedia and he opened another user. He even didn't blocked! i really don't know why.--Friends147 (talk) 18:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Bucharester

He seems like an energetic new user, perhaps a bit too concerned with presenting his hometown in an overly positive light, but nothing more alarming so far. - Biruitorul Talk 20:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Eff Won

Hi Mj,

I noticed you left a message for Eff Won on his talk page. I know you're assuming good faith, but just in case you're unaware, we believe that Eff Won is actually a sock of Lucy-marie, and is currently the subject of a sockpuppet investigation. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 23:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think it's under control now. As we're all pretty sure it's Lucy, we've had enough experience with her to know how to handle her. Right now, we've managed to contain Eff Won to the article talk pages while we await the outcome of the SPI. If proven right, some of us have talked about adding something to WP:LONG for future reference. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:35, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi again Mj,
How long do SPIs generally take? Eff Won has been the subject of one for nearly a week now, and there hasn't been any real progress on it. One way or the other, I'd like the matter closed, because he's starting to get aggressive again (see here and especially here). Prisonermonkeys (talk) 08:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Right, thanks for that. I'm hesitant to do it because I don't know how long it would take for an admin to get around to reviewing it, and the page clearly states that you must notify a user if they have been referred to AN or ANI. I'm not keen on that for the time being because I don't know how Eff Won would react if he were to find out before action was taken (assuming action is taken - but we're all fairly certain it's Lucy). I imagine that he would take it poorly, though. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Eff Won appears to be on the other side of the world to me. Would it be perceived as low if I were to report him to AN/ANI and left the mandatory note on his page while he was asleep so that admins could intervene before he was aware of it? Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I've reported him to ANI. He's denied it, of course, insisting that everything I have said has been taken out of context, deliberately misrepresented and shamelessly exaggerated, but he hasn't actually addressed any of the issues I raised, and he seems to think this will all go away if he asks nicely and promises to try better. I find it rather strange that he hasn't addressed - or even acknowledged - his deplorable behaviour like this. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 07:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Arrogance.

I have no difficulty in being civil to anyone but I will simply not lie down and take rudeness. Therefore, I request that you remind Parsecboy of the same. In future it would be best if he did not approach people with such an outright display of arrogance on first contact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by B.G.Watson (talkcontribs) 18:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your support at my RfA. I will do my best to live up to people's confidence in me. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:36, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Grammar issue

Hi mj,

When you get a chance, can you please take a look at 2012 Formula One season, please? A user, cherkash, has taken issue with some of the grammar in the article, citing MOS:POSS as to why. I told him it was fine, citing other parts of the same policy, but he keeps restoring his edits. He has moved it to the article talk page and has attempted to establish a consensus, but the preliminary consensus is going against him. Other users see no reason to change what is in the article. I also advised him that the Formula One WikiProject has a certain way of doing things, namely that we generally prefer that a consensus is reached on contentious edits before actually implementing them. cherkash keeps restoring his edits despite this and despite preliminary consensus against him. I warned him that he was in violation of WP:3RR, and now his latest edit rewords sections of the article (quite poorly in places, I might add - for someone who is taking issue with grammar, he has no idea how to construct a proper sentence) so as to get around the preliminary consenuss telling him that there was no agreement on his proposed changes. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 07:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the prompt response. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 08:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Mj, I'm surprised you took a very partial view of the issue, by threating me with a ban on my talk page, while taking no such action against Prisonermonkeys. If you carefully look at the history and timing of edits on both main article and talk pages, you will see that not only Prisonermonkeys was in violation of the 3RR himself, but he also acted against the spirit of Wikipedia by summarily undoing the edits, only a portion of which was in his opinion controversial, and the rest of which was uncontroversial improvement. This is very much against the Wiki spirit of collaboration, when editors are discouraged to summarily undo other editors' edits unless in cases of vandalism, and are instead encouraged to re-work the edits further towards amicable resolution. In this case, I repeatedly warned him that he dismissed/undid more than edits that contained possessives in question – but he proceeded to revert nonetheless. At the last count, I can see 4 reverts on his part (against my two) – but you nevertheless decided to take your issue up with me not him. It's strange, especially since I tried to constructively resolve the issues in my latest edit, whereas he just repeatedly acted disrespectfully towards me and my attempts at resolving the controversial issue. Since when is the "my way or highway" attitude, as demostrated by Prisonermonkeys, encouraged and endorsed on the Wikipedia? cherkash (talk) 23:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

My third reversion of the page came after I told you that you needed a consensus to have your changes approved. At the time, you did not. The preliminary consensus was against your proposals. Nevertheless, you restored the content that you added to the page. I explained to you the reasons for this: the Formula 1 editors prefer to keep the page stable by discussing proposed changes first, and only including them once a consensus had been obtained. Yes, we are conservative, but we do that because the pages get a lot of unsolicited edits, particularly during this time of year when the rumour mill is in full swing. If I reverted your page for the third time, it was because you ignored these instructions. You did not have a consensus, but you saw fit to make changes anyway. You tried to give me some nonsense about how your changes were grammar-related and had nothing to do with changing the actual content of the page, but that is splitting hairs. You did not have consensus to make those changes.
Furthermore, I told you that if you wanted to make any changes to the page outside the grammar, you were welcome to. In particular, I noticed you wanted to change the {{main|(Grand Prix name)}} to {{main article|(Grand Prix name)}}. I have no issue with that, and if you had have changed that and that alone, then I would not have reverted it. Instead, you insisted that I had to be the one to go through and change all the grammar back to its original form if I had an issue with it. If you had have made an edit that changes those templates without touching the grammar, you would have earned yourself considerably more goodwill than you currently have.
Finally, your "attempts at resolving the controversial issue" with your final edit did not amount to much. I changed these for three reasons: 1) they weren't necessary, 2) preliminary consensus decided that the article was fine the way it was, and 3) they actual changes that you made here left the article with some very awkward sentences, such as "Lotus became known as Caterham, reflecting purchase of Caterham Cars by team principal Tony Fernandes". It surprises me that you made so little effort here, given that the majority of your edits have been concerned with grammar. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
PS - Mj, I hope you don't mind my posting like this on your talk page. I saw cherkash's response and thought I might offer a rebuttal in the interests of making your job a little easier by saving you from sifting through pages and pages to find a response. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Prisonermonkeys, you are clearly bent on splitting hairs, despite claims to the opposite. Mind-boggling: you wouldn't mind me changing the factual contents without building consensus first, but you were clearly very eager to aggressively go after me for trying to change grammar and re-work it to something that would be acceptable to all parties involved. That contradicts the claims to factual stability you pretend to maintain (around the time "rumour mill is in full swing") – since you are clearly more interested in formatting stability than in factual one.
In a good spirit of collaboration it would be better you further change "awkward" grammar (which wasn't that awkward, retaining the original meaning exactly) rather than keep reverting everything. So you have to admit there was a very clear intent on your side to involve in an edit war – and that's exactly what you continued doing despite my efforts to avoid it.
Also note, that by undoing all the edits I did, including those you said you agreed to – and the ones you said would earn me more goodwill – you still managed to mangle and destroy the repeated efforts to fix citation tags. This is a good example of why making incremental edits, instead of reverts/undo's, is always a preferred way to edit Wikipedia. cherkash (talk) 03:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Track gauge editor: sock?

Hi, do you thing that HTML2011 (talk · contribs) who started editing very recently, has concentrated on two areas (HTML and rail gauges) and who has already started twelve RMs, is a sock of TrackConversion (talk · contribs)? --Redrose64 (talk) 12:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Accesdates

I draw you attention to the talk page of St. Pancras, and the documentation of Template:Citation - which clearly states Not required for web pages or linked documents that do not change; mainly for use of web pages that change frequently or have no publication date.

All the accessdates I have removed are from stable, reliable, dated sources. Prof.Haddock (talk) 20:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Strange coincidence

I don't suppose it's possible for the very thorough NYT to be taken in by "an anonymous investigation source" who happens to also be a nuisance at a certain on-line encyclopedia, is it? The coincidence just seems too strange. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC) ... hang on, what's that frenzied banging I can hear?

@Martinevans123: Unlikely, the story was also being reported by Agence France Pressé as well. Such behaviour would be most unprofessional. Mjroots (talk) 13:19, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I know nothing of this editor's previous editing. It seems there are now calls to welcome him back. I'm pretty sure I'd react exactly the same way if I saw that kind of material at the Talk Page again. To me it was "outlandish speculation". Martinevans123 (talk) 13:54, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
@Martinevans123: The IP is likely to be him anyway. I'm not taking any notice. Mjroots (talk) 15:50, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.172.97 (talk) 17:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Offer of help

@Mkmillenium: - I know you'll only blank it if I post a message on your talk page, so I'll post here instead.

Although I found that it was necessary to block you, I bear no malice towards you. My offer of help, which I posted on your talk page, still stands. If you wish to accept, just say so. Wikipedia is a big place, with lots of rules, guidelines, policies etc. It can be daunting to a beginner, let alone a seasoned editor like me (there's still stuff I need help on sometimes. Anyway, the offer remains open. Mjroots (talk) 16:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I've given Nathan A RF (talk · contribs) a second uw-disruptive warning about cramming level †ing info into railway articles and WP:RDTs, but I suspect he'll just simply blank his talk page, same as last time, and merrily go on his way. Any suggestions about what to do about him? Useddenim (talk) 04:31, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@Useddenim: I've reminded him that blanking his talk page means the message has been read and is understood. Mjroots (talk) 05:52, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Oops, didn't notice two related threads. I also replied at User talk:Redrose64#User:Nathan A RF. --Redrose64 (talk) 07:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Your advice being followed

Mjroots, Would you mind checking this [4], who quickly turned into this[5].

According to what he stated above, Jezebel's Ponyo will not be surprised. The farm is turning into a colony.

Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 05:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@BlueIndigo: Are you saying that PirateGreen is another sock of Aubmn? Mjroots (talk) 06:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Exactly. I knew it was coming & was not surprised when I saw first revert by *saviourblue*, who then turned into a *green pirate*.
--Blue Indigo (talk) 06:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC).
@BlueIndigo: OK, file a sockpuppet report at WP:SPI with Aubmn as the puppetmaster. Add in all names that you suspect are socks. Mjroots (talk) 06:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Aidepikiwnirotide and IP aspersions

I'm fairly sure you'll just have ignored Aidepikiwnirotide's recent thinly-veiled accusations that either myself of Vormeph have been using IPs to influence yourself or Moxy. Just in case, it seems likely that both IPs (as well as HeroChaos) are Olowe2011, who had a ragequit moment and was renamed 1xdd0ufhgnlsoprfgd. Not that explains why he would be raging against you, given how he probably feels about me, but I suppose he's not overly happy with WP authorities at the moment.

Normally I'd keep quiet about a New Start, but HeroChaos is not going to be long for WP if his talkpage is anything to go by. Bromley86 (talk) 20:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Bromley86 Just please don't change/remove my opinions on talk page. Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 22:23, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear Mjroots, users Bromley86 and Vormeph several times changed/removed my comments on talk page and voted from my side. I would appreciate if you would prevent such behaviours. Thanks. Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

I too would welcome some input. My initial edit may have been incorrect, as I did blank his discussion in a proposal section; I should have instead handled it as you did when he ignored a request not to discuss in the earlier proposal. However, Vormeph has done noting wrong re. Aidepikiwnirotide's comments, as he's just moved them to a Comments section below the proposal vote.
Both of us included Aidepikiwnirotide as an Oppose vote. That seems to accurately state his position on the subject. No problem if he wants to abstain though.
I'll have one more attempt at tidying it up, following Vormeph's inclusion of a Comments section. Hopefully Aidepikiwnirotide will not continue to disrupt. Bromley86 (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

not too much damage

just have to make allowances for extra bits that seem somewhat enthusiastic or naive, and for what I consider some beyond the scope of the relevant projects, in most cases no real harm, just misleading JarrahTree 11:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

It was more a case of, FYI - and the explanation - than any specific example, more of a heads up of what to see and expect JarrahTree

Thanks for notifying me

Thank you infact for telling me that I should link my signature to user page. (Cass)

@Cassini127: thank you for fixing it. Mjroots (talk) 20:39, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Arthur Rubin Arbcom case

Thanks for your statements. Here [6] and on GorrillaWarefare's takk you said autopattrolled right. It should be New Page Patrol (NPP) right. Easy to confuse, but if you adjust it will be accurate. Thanks. Legacypac (talk) 14:41, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@Legacypac:, I'll remember that when it comes to presenting evidence. BTW, if you don't wish to be considered an involved party I won't push the issue. Mjroots (talk) 14:49, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm not inclined to be an involved party so long as my evidence can be put forward. AR had plenty of time and opportunity to provide diffs justifying his attacks on me. It's way too late for him to debate the merits of what he said and did or analyze my actions again. I was already drug through the mud and unfairly banned from making moves because of false statements by him and others. Ditto for TRM. There is very little need to look at his actions. He is the victim here and the crime is failure to back up attacks with supporting diffs (ADMINACCT). Even IF TRM lied (and that's a big IF) it no longer matters now, the chance to seek sanctions is long gone. We have weeks of an admin failing to account for his personal attacks, and a pattern of similar abuse against me as well. Legacypac (talk) 14:59, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
An Arbitrator has commented that the case is to be weighted towards examining ARs conduct. For the record, I'm not looking to get TRM sanctioned, or AR permanently excluded from the project. Mjroots (talk) 15:05, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Hahahahaha. Funniest thing I've read here this year. TRM gets more sanctions, Rubin gets "admonished" (i.e. nothing happens). Want to take my bet? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Sure, put a beer on it! Mjroots (talk) 04:51, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
I'll take your bet too. Legacypac (talk) 04:58, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Removing an important and credible reference from Iran page again!

I wonder after several days discussion, this credible reference has been removed again! Discussion has been archived properly!

[1]

Thank you very much for your attention

Regards

Aidepikiwnirotide (talk) 19:31, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ A. Fishman, Joshua (2010). Handbook of Language and Ethnic Identity: Disciplinary and Regional Perspectives (Volume 1). Oxford University Press. p. 266. ISBN 978-0195374926. ""Iran" and "Persia" are synonymous" The former has always been used by the Iranian speaking peoples themselves, while the latter has served as the international name of the country in various languages

Case opened

You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin/Evidence. Please add your evidence by 13 September 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Mkdw talk 05:23, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

A possible sockpuppet of Freightcar2

Hello there Mjroots. This [7] edit makes me suspect APCX (talk · contribs) and Freightcar2 (talk · contribs) are the same person. What do you think?--Jetstreamer Talk 19:23, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer: - There's certainly a distinct aroma of cheesy sock about. Freightcar2 isn't the sockmaster though. Mjroots (talk) 19:31, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jetstreamer: It would appear that Serjinh81 is the sockmaster. Note comments against fr:wiki linking with Freightcar2. Will see what I can discover there. Mjroots (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Jetstreamer, I was wrong, turns out it is User:Modern Fire, whom you appear to be acquainted with. The fr:wiki SPI also links in Freightcar2, Serjinh81 and 73.222.239.27 as confirmed socks. Mjroots (talk) 19:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jetstreamer: and Thomas.W - SPI opened. Mjroots (talk) 06:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
G'day, please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ace505. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 08:11, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
@YSSYguy: - The IP needs adding. Mjroots (talk) 08:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Catalan flags

Hi, MJroots. I wonder could you perhaps have a look at the dispute between me and impru20 at the end of the Flag section of Catalan Republic 2017 Talk here, and then perhaps offer some words of wisdom to me and/or him? (My edit, twice reverted by impru20 is here, and is almost entirely based on info supplied by you in that Talk section). Tlhslobus (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Warnings rash?

Good morning. What on earth is going on with this bizarre rash of Level 1 warnings from IPs to established editors? My watchlist, because I watch you and a few like you, is full of them this morning ... it looks like some sort of campaign. It would have the potential to get quite disruptive - does Wikipedia have the wherewithal to protect itself against this sort of nonsense? I hope so. Cheers DBaK (talk) 11:09, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: I wasn't aware it was a rash, as I'm not a TPS. If there are any offenders posting warnings to multiple editors then slap them with a level4/4im cease and desist warning. Next step after that is the banhammer. Mjroots (talk) 11:20, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Quick block of IP 93.188.36.237 needed - it's a "rapid-fire revert and then spurious warning" troll spree. Presumably they'll get bored and go back to Call of Duty or something. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:29, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
I can see DBaK is all over this like a cheap suit. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Yes, it's certainly a bit rashy-looking: if you have a look at recent edits in some of these: [8], [9], [10] and including your own, it's something like seven edits from seven different IPs across four user pages in a relatively short time. Looking at the contributions from some of those IPs shows that they bothered others too. They are all blocked as far as I can see so maybe it doesn't matter. I was just a little disconcerted that I don't think I remember seeing something quite like this before ... but it's probably no big deal in the overall scheme of things! I should probably go and do some work instead. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 11:32, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Haha Martin! I should probably get out more! :) DBaK (talk) 11:33, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
We all know you are duty bound. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:37, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Looks like this is dealt with then. OK chaps, back to work! Mjroots (talk) 11:38, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

User:LawrenceGroves

MJR, it looks like User:LawrenceGroves is the same person as the IPs editing on General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon, who logged in to bypass your semi-protection in order to continue edit warring. I've asked them to revert as a measure of good faith here, but so far he's refused. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

ITN/C MV Sanchi

Hi Mjroots,

I'm genuinely sorry if my comments at ITN/C upset you, that wasn't my intention. As I've said, I think you did a good job with the available resources, and the article is well done. Thanks for all you do for the project.

--CosmicAdventure (talk) 16:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@CosmicAdventure: - I'm also sorry if I overreacted at WT:ITN. I was not picking on you specifically, but chose your post as an example to illustrate the problem. Thanks for your kind words. Mjroots (talk) 16:53, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello.

Hello. I have already spoken to the admins at Commons but they still don't want to unblock me. I have said that I'm not going to upload Google images anymore, but they still don't want. Could you please talk to them and convince them? It's the users Эlcobbola and Taivo (at Commons, not Wikipedia). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown contributor123 (talkcontribs) 16:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

ITN/C

THe article was almost completely written by User:Trust_Is_All_You_Need. See their talkpage for the gory details. I'm not saying they were perfect editor, but ... Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Warning

Hello again, Now I have not left a reply for a while as I was not very happy about the warning you gave me. I do try my best here and the warning you gave me I feel like was and still is unacceptable, I don't randomly change the summaries for no reason, if you have not noticed I do read the final reports so I am not happy with the other person stating that I'm 'making a mess'. I have learning difficulties so please understand that or at least make a note of that on my profile.

Anyways I am happy to see that ASN is a website I can sue for sourcing purposes which is fantastic. But the edit were you gave me warning was a mistake which I never purposely made as I always make sure the right tab is up.

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 09:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

@OrbitalEnd48401: I never gave you any warning. I was offering advice in my first post and ensuring that you were fully aware of the meaning of removing warnings left on your talk page in my second post. I am actually trying to help you here. I may be an admin, but I'm not the type of admin that steams in with the banhammer first and asks questions afterwards. I don't like having to block people from editing if it can be at all avoided.
Suggest that you take things easy for now. Wikipedia can be a very steep learning curve. Allowances can be made for editors with disabilities, but this has to work both ways. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that they don't like you. Try proposing edits on the talk page of the relevant articles and gaining consensus for them. You can always ask at WT:AV for advice. That venue may be use to notify project members of ongoing discussions. Mjroots (talk) 12:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, sorry your name is extremely similar to the person who warned me, I do apologie for that. Good news I know how to reference so no more problems with my edits anymore!! I’m happy now, hope you are to, sorry for the inconvenience here’s a cake to make it up 🎂.

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 16:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Can i ask what is it with you saying im not as new as i claim to be? Ive made edits before i made an account (this one) but i am new to the policies and stuff ok? I dont get the suscipion

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 19:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Now that i think about it, im used to this layout of editing as i use Fandom Wikia which ive been on for over a year

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 19:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

@OrbitalEnd48401: - it was just a gut feeling. You may have been editing for a while when not logged in (IP editor). A Fandom Wikia would also explain it, as the software is similar across Wikis. As we're talking policies and stuff, please have a good read of WP:BRD. The D bit is important. Mjroots (talk) 19:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Sure I’m up for discussing things, however Jetstreamer never responds to my messages I leave onto him undoing my edits. Annoying really especially when I provide an explanation. Say... as you’re an admin, could you have another check to make sure the summary of Aeroperú 603 is good? Along with you deciding whether it’s a cfit accident or a loss of control accident?

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 20:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

WP:POINTy page creation

Sonasan railway station was re-created as a pointy example. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tyw7&oldid=881570427#Second_chapter Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sonasan railway station --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 13:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Copyright Urgent

@Mjroots: Hey man we have an issue, Harro Ranter would like those photos I accienelty uploaded wrong deleted immediaetly. He sounds very upset from the email I just read. I would like to be on good terms with the guy as his website is key for photos and informaiton. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 13:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

What images? If they are on Commons you'll need to find a Commons Admin. I have no powere to delete images on Commons. Mjroots (talk) 14:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay thx OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Moylesy98

You've probably spotted this already ... but if you haven't I'd prefer to raise it here in case you haven't: Looking at the recent sequence of edits:

  • 17:17 April 16 [11] - On Moylesy98 talk: Unblock req. by D. Moyses on talk page
  • 23:02 April 16 [12] On Kolhapur - Series of edits by 2A00:23C5:FC81:3E00:FD2C:A2A7:284D:D101 essentially attempts at relocating an image which to be fair could be regarded as renderingl awkwardMoylesy98. This was however similar to edits made earlier by a now blocked sock of Moylesy98. I don't think the image is related to Moylesy98 but I could be totally wrong. The article has certainly been the subject of warring.
  • 02:10 April 17 [13] - On Kolhapur: Tony May puts the image back, adds a little content, and in the edit summary alleges 2A00:23C5:FC81:3E00:FD2C:A2A7:284D:D101 is a sock of Moylesy98. (The allegation seems credible).
  • 02:27 April 17 [14] - On Moylesy98 talk: Response by Tony May to the unblock request. It is somewhat confrontational but the underlying concerns seem at a minimum non unjustified. However it does not mention anon IP edits of a few hours earlier ( it takes we very little of AGF the Tony had not unreasonable reasons for avoiding this, perhaps not 100% sure the IP sock accusation is true or perhaps not wishing to add that difficultly to Moylesy98 ).
  • 08:37 April 17 WP:ANI - I gave a Weak support !vote and comment at ANI.
  • 13:08 April 17 [15] - On Moylesy98 talk: Response to Tony May by Moylesy98 which I read as he indicating he felt hounded/attacked/bullied

Some points on this:

  • If Moylesy98 was using an anon IP sock for the purposes to try and circumvent a block then that probably needs checking out and dealing with more formally. Ideally it should be made explicitly clear this behavior severely reduces the chance of a block being removed. (IF I was editing from a public machine e.g. library I might well use an IP and declare it was me edit was controversial. I'd also want to withdraw my weak support for your ANI proposal at this time but
  • This re-enforces my concerns interactions being Tony may and Moylesy98 are concerning and pragmatically will inevitably end up in a block for Moylesy98. Without prejudice to Tony May would a voluntary undertaking to report an issue with Moylesy98 rather than attempting to deal with it which will result in escalation. Leading up to the block I was concerned with Moylesy98/Tony May interactions escalation as likely being contributory to actions which resulted in the block .. though even discounting these a block was likely warranted.
  • You're probably aware but just to be sure I have raised this discussion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Livery diagrams in part due to a symptom of some Tony May edits but the subject is slightly broader about livery diagrams which may be growing with WP:UNDUE weight.

Please excuse any mistakes above. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Djm-leighpark - apologies for the delay in replying, am under the weather atm with a chest infection. If you suspect sockpuppetry, the WP:SPI is the venue to raise concerns. I think the previous case was not proven to be Moylesy98. I do check the talk pages of UKT and TWP regularly so am aware of what's going on there. Mjroots (talk) 06:46, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Main thing is you concentrate on getting better .... i might (or might not) looks at WP:SPI ... perhaps to get a line under it.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:31, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I have raised a WP:SPI. Short term this may not be helpful to Moylesy98, longer term it might be (sigh). Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:37, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Ok ... Moylesy98 essentially cleared so I am happy for my weak support at ANI to remain standing. thanks.Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Response

"Editors are usually willing to discuss things where there is a difference of opinion and you are encouraged to join in these discussions." I feel thats a load of bs, especially as I'm adding information which is true and in keeping with what was there prior. You guys never wanted to know and thats evidenced by trying to block me. I mean, the first comment I got from one of you halfwits was that the distance from the town centre was an 'opinion'. Every one of you has acted abhorrantly and it is no wonder Wikipedia's admin get such bad press with people like you lot.

T.taylor1997 (talk) 10:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Advice, please

Despite agreeing to move on at WP:ANI, Davey2010 continues with his negative behaviour. Even though agreeing to apologize at 18:22, he denies and refuses to apologize less than an hour later. (He had WP:THANKed mefor my edit at ANI, so I charitable assumed that that was a private way of apologizing. In retrospect, it was more likely sarcastic.)

At the TfD he characterised one of my edits as "just dumped under the infobox", again "suggest[ed] you get your eyesight checked", and accused me of being a "snowflake" and "pathetic" [16]. Rounding things out, this time of course there's no mistaking the sarcasm in his Have a nice day! salutation!

Since I got my knuckles rapped for initially going to ANI too quickly, I figured that this time I should at least bring it to the attention of the admin who attempted to resolve things, rather than going back to ANI prematurely. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 21:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

P.S. If he really has no desire to interact with you further, why does he continue with the childish and petty WP:POKING? One would think that an editor that who has Barnstars for Diplomacy and Civility would know how to conduct themselves in a better manner. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

No I didn't characterise your edits in this way - I simply felt these were dumped under the infobox and that's how anyone else would see it.
Wrong, I agreed to move on, I never agreed to apologise.
Snwoflakes always get offended over things that aren't/weren't offensive.... and IMHO right now you seem to be getting offended over nothing here - I've told you repeatedly to visit your opticians and to get your eyesight checked which is more of a worry on my part than an actual personal attack.
"P.S. If he really has {no desire to interact with you further, why does he continue with the childish and petty WP:POKING?" - Ummm you pinged me so it was you that did the poking, sure I replied before that ping however I never pinged you and my reply was simply to state I did indeed remove them and that I apologised for not mentioning this to begin with.
I am diplomatic and civil but I'm not either of those things to people who feel it's fine to cause unnecessary drama (case in point being your IDL reply and the ANI thread),
May I remind you you started all of this nonsense with this reply, If you spoke to people nicer and assumed good faith more with people maybe people wouldn't be so annoyed with you and maybe things would run a lot smoother.
Like I said I'd rather move on and focus on our readers who are our top priority on this project, Nonsense posts like this achieve nothing and instead cause more drama than good. –Davey2010Talk 01:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
AlgaeGraphix's, no apology was promised that I see in your diff —I think you have the wrong diff, though— and none can be demanded. And you should assume that Davey would use the thanks button in good faith. Just go do something else, please. This isn't going anywhere good right now. El_C 03:31, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
El_C - I've had to refer this to WP:ANI for reasons explained there. Mjroots (talk) 03:34, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Mjroots, I replied there already. That was my point of reference. I think deescalation is the way to go here. Once again, very sorry to hear about your loss. El_C 03:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


Your encouragement of a suspicious user

In response to my highlighting a clearly experienced user pretending to be new, you said "An editor may have edited for years before registering an account.". Of course they may, but that is exactly the point: the user explicitly denied any previous editing experience. The user wants you to believe that this was posted by someone with just ten days of editing experience. Are you not even a little bit suspicious of this? 109.144.213.176 (talk) 09:41, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Your comment at ANI

Thank you for your comment. If you check the respective articles, the user expressed his point of view, extensively repeatedly, I respect everyone who would crawl through on that very long text, the useful recommedations other editors put have been already put in practise. I am an engineer, so I have no problem focusing on the issues, on the other hand I quickly detect illogic argumentation, or suchs behaviors the user endorsing here (straw man argumentations, never ending inverse accusations, despite he was already debunked, denying and continuing with invalid assertions). These tendentious behavior like pretending the issues otherwhise as they were are disruptuve, annoying (nerve killing), but repeatedly contrary the evidence presented another engineer (Guy Macon), also demonstrated his accusations are false, did not make him to stop. He is deliberately provocating, having the last word and pretending by the walloftext repeats if he would really present fair new points. For instance see his latest answer:

"that if you accuse me that I said X, you should provide a diff where I said X, not one of your diffs" -> nonsense, all his diffs have been already presented, about what he said, and in fact what was the reality

"your source is off-topic, I was not talking about the 1930 census whose results were published later. In fact, if you look, you will notice that the numbers from the 1930 and 1940 census are different." -> the source was not off topic, it is explaining that the 1930 census publishment delayed with many years and in 1940 were not census, just an estimation. By talking about 1940 census he is reiterating again that IDHT issue which was demonstrated to be invalid one month ago.

Conclusion, you say and prove A, he will discuss about B and claiming C, like A would have never happened, despite the evidence. If another user reinforces A, he will say D and E, not even having connection with the root cause, etc. (hence diametrical opposed views, become a phenomenon, but one of it is fact which the other user keeps denying, from that point they are not the one and the same weight)

I am the bigger man now that I won't engage further on that discussion (hence I replied to you here), since evidence is there, and anyone who seriously care the issue should see what's going on (by three non-admin reviewers one did a really good job)

However, it remains to be seen if the users would change behavior, since he just learned everything he commited has no consequence. Since the beginning, I have been with direct conversations with two admins, who anyway engaged the user's talk page and warned him repeatedly earlier (at least I followed what they told me and updated them repeatedly).

I am disappointed the user could freely continue casting aspersions and denial of evidence (however, the thread is not closed yet). About what you mentioned ("even if he is lying"), and anything else per civility 2/(d) & (e) are still violations (and now extensively).

So, I have now the chance to learn from you, when will be the point when such behavior cannot continue, although our rules are clear? I refrained myself making reports about the user, although I have pretty much evidence now everyone may see as well...can I trust an admin will not let that behavior continue once?(KIENGIR (talk) 22:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC))

Another Moylesy98 IP sock?

I seem to remember it has been you dealing with this blocked editor's legacy. Please could you look at the IP who made this edit[17]? Although a harmless edit in itself it might be as well to nip them in the bud before they get emboldened.SovalValtos (talk) 19:41, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

My banhammer
My banhammer

An invitation, if ever I saw one. Someone's keen to take a dive, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:44, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

"The wrong is not that you are homosexual but that you are moron. Its pity that your banhammer is not material object. I'm sure that you will put and it in your ass". Maybe time check your Dirty Bulgarian Phrasebook?? Tobacconist123 (talk) 22:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
@Martinevans123: - IP87 made the fatal mistake of thinking I'm the only one with a banhammer. There are over 1,000 of us. My banhammer is real enough. I have a nice polished mahogany case that I keep it in, under lock and key. Mjroots (talk) 05:46, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I must say it's nice that they are OK about homosexual people, although they do seem a bit tough on morons. I'm not absolutely sure that I followed all their logic in those comments but they were certainly interesting. Oh and I do think it's great where our template says that didn't seem very civil – best wording ever! Cheers to all, DBaK (talk) 17:11, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
All the rage in Sofia this winter, I hear. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
@Martinevans123: Do you want it sir? Go on sir, you know you want it sir. Suit you sir, suit you! Mjroots (talk) 12:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
"Spent much time out there, in Sophia, have we Sir??" Martinevans123 (talk) 12:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
@Martinevans123: - thought it was Bangkok? Mjroots (talk) 13:15, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
"One night in Bangkok and the world's your lobster." Allegedly. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

User - Tartan357 is illegally changing and tagging Aung San Suu Kyi as Former State Counsellor of Myanmar in Aung San Suu Kyi wiki page

Thank you for all your kind support and help.

From our people of Burma, I say Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhong ST (talkcontribs) 23:44, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Zhong ST, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for you to spread disinformation. You know as well as I do that Aung San Suu Kyi is no longer in office. You've now reverted past my {{uw-error4}} warning, so I expect you will be blocked soon. ― Tartan357 Talk 00:11, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
@Tartan357: the Aung San Suu Kyi page is having a week's holiday from Zhong ST's editing. Mjroots (talk) 06:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

To my knowledge, no further formal ArbCom action is forthcoming in this matter. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 20:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@L235: Thank you for letting me know. Mjroots (talk) 06:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Störm

Hi Mjroots. Thanks for closing this thread at ANI. I guess the closing comment that Störm needs to reduce their number of noms is open to interpretation. When their own comment in that thread of "I have decided to leave the WP:CRIC and will never AfD any cricket article in future nor I will participate in their discussion or close any AfD" and on their talkpage stating "As I have said earlier, I am voluntarily willing to never nominate any article for deletion nor I will participate in any AfD" you'd think that the last thing they'd engage in is a wave of more AfDs. So in the space of nine minutes, Störm has logged four further AfDs on cricketers in the past hour (17:34 to 17:43). So four is a reduction from 20 to 30 noms per day in the past, but I feel this is now in WP:GAME and/or WP:DE terrority. I don't know what, if anything, can be done about this, and welcome your thoughts. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Störm last said he'd drop to five a day. Let's see what happens rather than rush straight back to the drama board. Mjroots (talk) 18:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I'd like to WP:AGF, but this is taking the piss in my view. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:21, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi again. Maybe I'm making a big deal out of this, but here's some rough stats. They've logged about a dozen AfDs in the past 3 days or so, with about half of those being articles I've created. Now maybe they are rubbish, and should be deleted. However, based on my critique of this user at ANI, I feel this is becoming at best a case of WP:REVENGE, or worst still, a subtle form of harassment. You can see my talkpage history from the past couple of days. Wake up and BAM! multiple notifications from this user. On top of this, they start this RfC about article titles, and then while that is in progress, move multiple pages, with other editors raising this on their talkpage. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:01, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
@Lugnuts: I know it hurts when an article you put time and effort into creating is nominated for deletion. It hurts more when the article is deleted (been there, got the T-shirt). Reading various talk pages, it is apparent that guidelines have changed, which is why articles are being nominated. One way of combating this is creating articles of better quality in the first place. I generally try to aim for at least a C class article on creation, although I will create Start or Stub class articles if circumstances warrent, usually breaking current events, such as rail or air crashes. Being notified is better than not being notified, is it not? Mjroots (talk) 08:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I've said before that I have no issue with anything I create being nominated for deletion. However, in the current climate, it's clear to me that this user is going out of their way to make a point here with a campaign of harassment. No wonder multiple editors have already left the project in recent months. What actually hurts is when it's in plain sight, but is being brushed away. The guidelines have not changed. There's been some discussion, a lot of noise, but nothing has actually changed. Everything I create goes on my watchlist, so I would see anything being sent to AfD without a notification. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I've explained to Störm why articles shouldn't be moved during RFCs and RMs. Are there any AfD nominations you feel are particularly problematic? I'm willing to take a look and give some feedback, but I won't !vote in the AfD discussion. If you feel that strongly, you are always free to start a new thread at ANI. Mjroots (talk) 08:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Your explination was just blanked on his talkpage. I've asked them to stop posting on mine, and I got this BS. You've asked them to stop moving pages, but they continue (look at their edit history post your comment). Start an ANI? Yeah, right. You tried that, and it went nowhere. And still the harassment/stalking happens. So thanks for your help. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Before I say something I shouldn't, you recall they agreed to a limit of five AfDs per day, right? Well in the last 8-9 hours, they've logged SEVEN. The last four being articles I created. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
@Lugnuts: I issued a final warning and was challenged to provide evidence of breaking 5 AfD/day. I duly provided said evidence. Next step over the line and I indeff and take back to ANI. I'm not going to be taken for a fool, the banhammer is in full working order. Mjroots (talk) 18:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you - I do appreciate your help. Apologies if I came across as a crotchety Grinch in today's comments here too. Thanks again. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
@Lugnuts: I appreciate it's frustrating. Believe me, I've seen much worse. Mjroots (talk) 18:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi again. Thanks for note on their talkpage (which they quickly blanked). I see in the past 24hrs, they have now logged six AfDs (working backwards from approx 15:30 UK time now):
  1. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salman Saeed (2nd nomination) 14:46
  2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Raza (cricketer, born 1958) 14:38
  3. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Farooq Azeem 14:32
  4. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jhangir Abbas 14:29
  5. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamran Shahzad 04:08
  6. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obaidullah Sarwar 21:11
This is based on this search. Just double-check I'm 100% right here with the days/times, but I see that as clear breach of their agreement. If you need anything at all from me, just ping or drop a note on my talkpage. Thanks again. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
@Lugnuts: - It's not a rolling 24 hour period. Five AfD's between 00:00 and 23:59 in any calendar day is fine. Six or more and action will be taken. As you are well aware, blanking a message means it has been read and is fully understood. Mjroots (talk) 15:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Disruption at ITN

I'm thinking I probably should be blocked for the outbursts/disruption the other day in relation to the ITN drama that has been going on. It was rather POINTy and shouldn't have happened. I got rubbed the wrong way by a couple of editors who kept making snarky oppose comments on almost every weather nomination over the last several months. While their behavior isn't excusable, neither is mine. NoahTalk 18:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Blocks are not designed to be punitive, they are to protect Wikipedia. If you and the cohorts who tried to scupper the America's Cup nomination at ITN now realise that isn't the best way to get your point across and won't be doing it again, then lesson learned, we all move on. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

About RailwayJG

You've offered to help him, so please try to encourage him to edit more carefully, to check his references and coordinates, to use inline references, and not to present his "references" as a bare URL in square brackets. See his work on Shropshire (district) and St Luke the Evangelist Church, Brierfield. His article creation is amounting to disruptive editing and I will warn him twice more and then consider going to ANI. PamD 17:56, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@PamD: - suitable words of advice given. Mjroots (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Now we wait and see whether they are read and acted on. PamD 18:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
@PamD:, There's not much I can do if he won't learn. Some people can be helped, some can't. Possibly a WP:CIR issue here. Mjroots (talk) 18:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
He makes reference to "my condition" from time to time, as an excuse for ... well, anything and everything. If he carries on, he'll be at ANI. PamD 18:34, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
@PamD: - I don't let "my conditions" stop me from editing productively and collaboratively. That one don't wash. Mjroots (talk) 18:36, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Notice

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. It concerns Dominicana DC-9 air disaster and Username006....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Bhushan m bhandari

Hi! You recently blocked Bhushan mohan bhandari (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki) as the user was using multiple accounts. Looks like they have created a new account SidQ19 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki) and name is similar to my username. Regards. Sid95Q (talk) 20:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Sid95Q: I'll take a proper look in the morning, but there is a cheesy smell about this. If you want to raise a case at WP:SPI, feel free to. Mjroots (talk) 20:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
@Sid95Q: Sock drawer closed. Mjroots (talk) 05:56, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Removal of blank spaces from infoboxes

Hello Mjroots, Thanks for your comment. I hadn't realised the editing I was doing was affecting the templates that way. Still learning my way around Wikipedia, and the right approaches to doing work in that space. Cheers, Paul Aerohydro (talk) 06:52, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Aerohydro: - no problem. It is expected that editors will make mistakes. What matters is that they learn from them. No great harm done. Mjroots (talk) 06:59, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

In two weeks time

Hello. I'm cautiously confident, that LKS will be less grumpy when he returns. GoodDay (talk) 23:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey, thank you for knowing how to archive a certain talk page. Some questions though.

Hi, thank you for knowing how to archive a certain talk page. I notice that It seems that you delete the entire sections of the talk page, then go to "new section" and "just cut from this talk page and paste in the archive above the {{abottom}} template." I kinda need a deeper picture in this one. XXzoonamiXX (talk) 20:11, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

@XXzoonamiXX: - that is an instruction for other editors. You are free to edit your own archive. Mjroots (talk) 02:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


919499sp

User:919499sp is still editing railway accident lists, & still adding "no problem" events. Obviously doesn't have a clue. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:48, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: - I've indeffed. Was hoping that it wouldn't come to this, but the good of the project is more important. Mjroots (talk) 19:07, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

In theory

Howdy. I'm not certain of the percentages. But I've found that editors who (deliberately) make their signatures appear distorted, tend to be problem editors in other areas. GoodDay (talk) 19:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

CIR from a while ago

Remember Special:Contributions/919499sp? Somehow, I never removed their talk page from my watchlist... Looks like the CIR problem hasn't improved in any significant fashion. Obviously, it's not much trouble for anyone, and it is not like their comments are not much above trolling, but removing TPA might just encourage them to move on to somewhere else (and, on top of that, minimum effort to implement as well). Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 06:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

p.s. Your talk page might need a new incarnation - it looks almost like a userpage at this point... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 06:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
@RandomCanadian: - no need to revoke TPA as they're not being disruptive there. Maybe they'll be back in a few years when they've matured a bit. Mjroots (talk) 07:04, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
@RandomCanadian: - confession - it was early and the coffee hadn't kicked in. Having re-examined the situation, TPA has been revoked. Mjroots (talk) 10:50, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
I was going to wait until 14 February (three months after my last post there) and post a note saying something along the lines of "That is not an acceptable method for requesting unblock. We described the proper method on 5 November 2021, but you subsequently damaged those instructions on more than one occasion". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

This isn't going to end well...

Hi, I don't know quite how to address this, but just saw a new user's user-page: User:RichardCra. I don't want to engage him on his viewpoints and suggest that this isn't an appropriate user-page or a good way to start an editing career here, and I'm not sure if it's fair to drag the account straight off to some admin noticeboard somewhere (I don't even know which), but I don't see a good outcome for an editor who starts by declaring that Black Lives Matter is a racist hate group. I wonder whether your more experienced/admin knowledge of WP can handle this better than me? Elemimele (talk) 09:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

@Elemimele and Doug Weller: - user page deleted as an attack page, user indeffed as they are clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. Mjroots (talk) 10:00, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Good call. You beat me to it by at the most minutes! Doug Weller talk 10:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Doug Weller and Mjroots, sorry to have bothered both of you! Thanks for sorting the problem. Elemimele (talk) 10:11, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
@Elemimele: given that Mjroots' talk page suggested they might not be available, that was sensible and stopped the inevitable vandalism in its tracks. Doug Weller talk 10:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
@Doug Weller: - I'm a carer. My editing of Wikipedia may be interrupted at any time, and for any amount of time. Hence the notice. Mjroots (talk) 10:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
That's an extremely important role (speaking as someone with Parkinson's and cancer who expects to need one in the future). Doug Weller talk 11:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)


Middlesbrough spelling (again)

Hi, I hope you are doing well.

I know we've discussed this in the past and I understand that if you say "Middlesborough" in a list like this or this then it is deliberate because it reflects the sources. I'm fine with that and have learnt to ignore them while doing my slightly OCD-ish checks on this and other spellings.

Sorry to start off again ... this isn't quite that same question once more! But I have noticed that sometimes one of your sources is the Daily Gazette for Middlesborough and I wondered if in that particular case you were striving for consistency and if so which way, as I think I have seen both. One guess I should make is that they should all at that time say Middlesborough, though I have no knowledge of a cutoff point for the spelling change. Or maybe there is deliberate inconsistency because the source spelling varies?

I'm fine with whatever you tell me as again I can just learn to live with it – I would just like to be clear, if that is possible. Thanks and all good wishes DBaK (talk) 22:29, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: - the DGM is "Middlesbrough". Any misspellings may be corrected. Those two you highlighted are likely also typos, I'll correct them. Mjroots (talk) 06:34, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Oh, thanks, that's lovely. I appreciate the clarity and I will try to factor this in when I am doing my spelling patrol! As always, if I get it wrong, please just let me know. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:33, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

An editor with a COI at Munich air disaster

Here is a link[18] to the talk page discussion. He has twice made not referenced edits to the article, and here is the one[19] showing his COI. Could you please look into this. Thank you....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: - commented at talk page. Let's see if we can get through to him before I have to reach for the banhammer. Mjroots (talk) 11:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Another issue with Pat Burns MMMF (talk · contribs) is his user page. It appears to violate WP:UP#PROMO. Their attitude towards WP editors, as seen on his talk page and the Munich air disaster talk page isn't very good either. Do what you think is best....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

William JE

How dare he say that about me. Anonymous editors casting aspersions. If I knew how to withdraw from here I would. Who the bloody hell does he, and that PEEJAY, think they are? Ban away please, I have no desire to want to update this site with valuable information any longer. Pat Burns MMMF (talk) 17:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

They are asking for an article ban. Please make his day. This time sink needs to end....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:01, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Not going to happen, WilliamJE. Have responded at his talk page. Best thing now is to move on. Mjroots (talk) 18:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Review required.

Please review Special:Diff/1081259682. Consider POV and COI. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 10:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Djm-leighpark: - Reverted as unsourced and failing NPOV. Mjroots (talk) 12:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Do I smell socks? Wasn't there another brakevan editor with a COI? Mjroots (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

WilliamJE

Hi Mjroots. Thank you for blocking WilliamJE from my userpages. Now that he's been indefinitely blocked from the whole encyclopaedia, I feel that this block has been superseded, and so has the reciprocal block you placed on me from editing WilliamJE's pages. Would you consider rescinding this?—S Marshall T/C 12:28, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

@S Marshall: - an indefinite block is just that. Have read the ANI thread and his talk page. As it is not a CBAN, it could be lifted at any time. At this point in time, I'm inclined to leave things as they are. Mjroots (talk) 13:13, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
You read Cullen's message on his talk page very differently from how I did, then.  :)—S Marshall T/C 17:48, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
  • ...and four weeks later he hasn't been unblocked or made an appeal. And I don't think he will, MJRoots -- User:Cullen328 told WilliamJE that any unblock would be contingent on changing his signature, and that's a hill WilliamJE has always been prepared to die on.
    Leaving me blocked from WilliamJE's userspace has a cost. It affects my Wikipedia activity in various ways -- for example, access to the Wikipedia Library and access to New Pages Patroller are both contingent on not being blocked. I patiently ask you to reconsider.—S Marshall T/C 17:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
    Under these circumstances, I support an unblock of S Marshall, Mjroots. Cullen328 (talk) 18:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
    @Cullen328: already enacted. Mjroots (talk) 18:41, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
    Great, thanks. Cullen328 (talk) 18:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.